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Jun 14 03:44:54 <Yuv422> I'm getting 3100KB/s on my transfers
Jun 14 03:45:08 <tonymy01> that is better than the 5K... just
Jun 14 03:45:18 <tonymy01> well, the 5K with the speed hack
Jun 14 03:45:29 <Yuv422> gotta remember to keep the wiz in file player menu
Jun 14 03:45:35 <tonymy01> yep
Jun 14 03:45:44 <tonymy01> hey, i just discovered something you shouldn't do
Jun 14 03:45:52 <tonymy01> touch /tmp/config/nowizdvp
Jun 14 03:45:55 <Yuv422> what's that?
Jun 14 03:46:16 <tonymy01> i thought, silly me, that this would bootup all the way still, but without any kind of gui
Jun 14 03:46:38 <tonymy01> and i was going to launch the gui via telnet, of a hacked wizdvp I made with rec file support
Jun 14 03:46:57 <tonymy01> but it doesn't seem to bring up the wireless OR the ethernet, and it doesn't load rc.local
Jun 14 03:47:15 <tonymy01> makes it a bit hard to do anything with it
Jun 14 03:47:38 <tonymy01> so just pulled up the serial pinout thread
Jun 14 03:48:30 <tonymy01> as there is no way of deleting this file now, not even a f/w reflash (well, I haven't tried a f/w flash, but i am sure the config filesystem won't be reset)
Jun 14 03:49:14 <Yuv422> hack the rc.sysint file
Jun 14 03:49:23 <Yuv422> then reflash that
Jun 14 03:49:25 <tonymy01> ahh, yes, of course
Jun 14 03:49:45 <tonymy01> but i would like a serial solution anyway
Jun 14 03:49:49 <Yuv422> I'm going to work on wizremote a bit
Jun 14 03:50:01 <Yuv422> so it can be launched from a different working dir
Jun 14 03:50:09 <Yuv422> then we can launch it from /tmp
Jun 14 03:50:12 <tonymy01> i have it in /tmp/config
Jun 14 03:50:21 <Yuv422> and you won't have the HDD check issues
Jun 14 03:50:29 <Yuv422> and it should be able to live on the HDD
Jun 14 03:50:41 <tonymy01> but i was thinking of simply making a script to copy from hdd to /tmp and launch, just as you have suggested
Jun 14 03:51:01 <Yuv422> I don't think we'd even need to do that
Jun 14 03:51:08 <Yuv422> something like this should work
Jun 14 03:51:29 <tonymy01> but the filesystem won't unmount if the app is on the hdd
Jun 14 03:51:40 <tonymy01> running from the hdd i should say
Jun 14 03:52:17 <Yuv422> (cd /tmp; /tmp/mnt/idehdd/wizremote/wizremote -c /tmp/mnt/idehdd/wizremote)
Jun 14 03:52:28 <Yuv422> assuming I put the -c switch in
Jun 14 03:52:39 <Yuv422> I think it is only if the working dir is on the HDD
Jun 14 03:52:49 <Yuv422> so if you start it with a different working dir it should be fine
Jun 14 03:52:58 <tonymy01> ahh, ok
Jun 14 03:53:00 <Yuv422> I think that was what prl was suggesting
Jun 14 03:53:17 <Yuv422> I'll give it a go and see
Jun 14 03:53:20 <tonymy01> give it a go anyway, can't hurt
Jun 14 03:53:25 <Yuv422> yeah
Jun 14 03:53:48 <Yuv422> I'm off to get a new shower head and a no junk mail sticker
Jun 14 03:53:51 <tonymy01> i wonder why the wiz won't load rc.local with nowizdvp, the rc.sysinit certainly doesn't give any clues
Jun 14 03:53:54 <Yuv422> so it will have to wait a bit
Jun 14 03:54:05 * Yuv422 looks
Jun 14 03:54:49 <tonymy01> i thought i would get smart and write a tweak to simply config the eth0 up, but the usb tweaks aren't loaded either (which is from an rc.local script i wrote)
Jun 14 03:56:09 <Yuv422> hmm the rc.sysinit looks like it should still load rc.local
Jun 14 03:56:18 <tonymy01> yep, exactly
Jun 14 03:56:38 <tonymy01> but it prints up nowizdvp on the vfd, and then a few minutes later it gets the error 0022 message
Jun 14 03:57:09 <Yuv422> ah maybe because wizmon is waiting for wizdvp to start
Jun 14 03:57:30 <Yuv422> and bombs the lot if it doesn't start within the heartbeat timeout
Jun 14 03:57:45 <Yuv422> you might have rc.local access for a heatheat
Jun 14 03:57:47 <tonymy01> i wonder why they bothered with this
Jun 14 03:58:02 <tonymy01> this nowizdvp i mean
Jun 14 03:58:23 <tonymy01> i captured the /dev/ir last night by killing wizmon and wizdvp from telnet
Jun 14 03:58:42 <tonymy01> so i thought "why not launch wizdvp again, perhaps launch a hacked one"
Jun 14 03:59:21 <Yuv422> I was wondering how you got that data. :)
Jun 14 03:59:42 <tonymy01> but it doesn't work, so then thought "killing wizdvp may have left a few things in an unknown state, and thus the reason why I can't launch wizdvp again"
Jun 14 04:00:04 <tonymy01> so then finally figured I would mimick the bootup process by telnetting in and essentially running what rc.sysinit runs
Jun 14 04:00:06 <Yuv422> could be
Jun 14 04:00:19 <tonymy01> but... when I can't telnet in the whole thing falls in a heap :-)
Jun 14 04:00:51 <tonymy01> i think your suggestion is best if i can't get this serial adapter built
Jun 14 04:01:27 <Yuv422> TTL
Jun 14 04:01:57 <tonymy01> yes, i have a max232 ckt already built, for a different purpose
Jun 14 04:02:10 <tonymy01> will use that
Jun 14 04:02:42 <Yuv422> I've got a TTL to USB cable
Jun 14 04:02:52 <Yuv422> but I couldn't get it working when I last tried
Jun 14 04:03:05 <Yuv422> but that was before matthewc's pinout info
Jun 14 04:03:17 <Yuv422> hopefully I haven't fried the port
Jun 14 04:03:32 <tonymy01> the most annoying thing about all this is that i have to pull the wiz out and unscrew it all again :-)
Jun 14 04:03:40 <Yuv422> yeah
Jun 14 04:03:47 <Yuv422> that's what's stopping me
Jun 14 04:03:52 <tonymy01> my 5K lid is permanently unscrewed
Jun 14 04:05:02 <Yuv422> you could make an extension cable and run it out the back of the case?
Jun 14 04:05:34 <tonymy01> yep, will likely do thi
Jun 14 04:05:43 <tonymy01> ok, well you need to get a shower head anyway :-)
Jun 14 04:05:52 <Yuv422> cya
Jun 14 04:06:32 * Yuv422 leaves his machine on to finish pulling large recordings off the wiz
Jun 14 04:14:49 <rwhitby> ooh - we have serial pinout now?
Jun 14 04:14:55 <rwhitby> can someone put that in the wiki?
Jun 14 04:15:03 <tonymy01> wow, that is an old thread
Jun 14 04:15:18 <tonymy01> http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2213&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Jun 14 04:15:22 * rwhitby is out of date
Jun 14 04:15:33 <tonymy01> bootloaders etc also
Jun 14 04:15:38 <tonymy01> not me, matthewc
Jun 14 04:15:47 <tonymy01> he is adding bits to the wiki i believe
Jun 14 04:19:16 <rwhitby> I haven't seen anything on the wiki ... (I have an RSS feed of any changes)
Jun 14 04:20:24 <tonymy01> hehe, so you saw my /dev/ir cat last night then?
Jun 14 04:20:55 <rwhitby> yep
Jun 14 04:21:09 <rwhitby> ok, I just sent him a PM invitation
Jun 14 04:22:59 <rwhitby> added a link to the forum page on http://www.openwiz.org/wiki/Hardware
Jun 14 04:23:40 <rwhitby> Add http://www.openwiz.org/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&feed=rss to your favourite RSS reader to see all changes
Jun 14 04:24:12 <tonymy01> i don't bother with rss, info overflow
Jun 14 04:54:26 <rwhitby> I do it for select things
Jun 14 04:54:39 <rwhitby> in thunderbird, alongside my email
Jun 14 07:12:07 <tonymy01> aha, i see why my tweak scripts failed when nowizdvp:
Jun 14 07:12:17 <tonymy01> # mkdir: Cannot create directory `/tmp/mnt/usb/tmp': No such file or directory
Jun 14 07:12:34 <tonymy01> my serial adapter works, yay
Jun 14 07:14:15 <Matty__H> tony, what are you up to?
Jun 14 07:14:36 <tonymy01> hi, i was trying to manually launch wizdvp, the gui
Jun 14 07:15:21 <tonymy01> so i thought I would "touch /tmp/config/nowizdvp" which alters the rc.sysinit bootup process, but problem was there was no ethernet or lan initialisation either LOL
Jun 14 07:15:55 <tonymy01> i want to be able to launch hacked wizdvp apps without having to reflash it all the time
Jun 14 07:16:07 <Matty__H> is this by design, the rc.sysinit bootup change?
Jun 14 07:16:15 <tonymy01> yep
Jun 14 07:16:23 <Matty__H> nice find :-)
Jun 14 07:16:36 <tonymy01> there is about 3 or 4 files that can be sitting in /tmp/config to alter the way it boots up
Jun 14 07:16:53 <tonymy01> not really a nice find, it is there for anyone to see who has telnet access
Jun 14 07:17:00 <Matty__H> k
Jun 14 07:17:14 <tonymy01> rc.sysinit is the main shell script to launch everything
Jun 14 07:17:22 <Matty__H> so you can boot it without launching the wizdvp
Jun 14 07:17:39 <tonymy01> yep, but unfort it didn't quite behave as i wanted
Jun 14 07:17:57 <tonymy01> with no way of telnetting in due to no lan/wireless
Jun 14 07:18:07 <Matty__H> have they put the ethernet and init in wizdvp?
Jun 14 07:18:25 <tonymy01> so i thought "of course, I can add a tweak bootup script to my usb stick" as I still have that rc.local in there
Jun 14 07:18:52 <tonymy01> but it wasn't launching that either, so it seems that wizdvp does some bits and pieces there also
Jun 14 07:19:08 <Matty__H> hmm
Jun 14 07:20:00 <Matty__H> so are you watching this via a serial connection?
Jun 14 07:20:05 <tonymy01> yep
Jun 14 07:20:06 <Matty__H> the boot up process that is?
Jun 14 07:20:12 <tonymy01> kind of
Jun 14 07:20:13 <Matty__H> awesome :-)
Jun 14 07:20:26 <tonymy01> read this thread:  : http://www.beyonwiz.com.au/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2213&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
Jun 14 07:21:45 <tonymy01> i just have one small issue to sort out now.... I moved the IR sensor to the front of the player, as I was sick of it only workig when in front of the Wiz (as it is buried so deep inside the unit for the DP-S1) and now the IR isn't working... oops
Jun 14 07:22:12 <tonymy01> i often try to drive it from a 45deg angle and it doesn't work
Jun 14 07:22:33 <tonymy01> i had some foil sticky taped to the front to reflect some IR into the sensor to get it to work
Jun 14 07:22:50 <tonymy01> but decided since i had it apart to move the sensor into a better position
Jun 14 07:23:12 <tonymy01> when i say "front" I mean still behind the opaque panel, but not inset
Jun 14 07:28:16 <Matty__H> ok
Jun 14 07:28:59 <Matty__H> I haven't opened mine to look at everything yet, but as you have, could you mod it so an IR sensor can be plugged in externally?
Jun 14 07:29:32 <tonymy01> i guess so
Jun 14 07:29:38 <tonymy01> it is just a standard 3 pin ir sensor
Jun 14 07:30:04 <tonymy01> on the vfd daughter board
Jun 14 07:31:00 <Matty__H> I'm pretty sure you can buy external IR sensors with a pin connector
Jun 14 07:34:03 <tonymy01> ok, time to pull it apart and see if i bridged something
Jun 14 07:35:22 <Matty__H> yipes - that sounds serious
Jun 14 07:56:28 <Matty__H> that topic is pretty interesting
Jun 14 07:59:00 <tonymy01> bugger
Jun 14 07:59:09 <tonymy01> i coooked the sensor trying to get it out it seems
Jun 14 07:59:13 <tonymy01> as nothing was shorted
Jun 14 07:59:24 <Yuv422> Ouch
Jun 14 07:59:49 <tonymy01> i put another sensor in there, no problems, but it looks a bit smaller, dunno if it performs any better or worse yet (just drove the thing with it in pieces just fine with the new sensor)
Jun 14 08:00:10 <tonymy01> i might have to chat with dave and see if he can send one perhaps
Jun 14 08:02:29 <Yuv422> so it has a removable connector
Jun 14 08:02:49 <tonymy01> ?
Jun 14 08:02:52 <tonymy01> no
Jun 14 08:02:54 <Yuv422> I was a bit worried about getting the front unit out so I didn't bother
Jun 14 08:02:55 <tonymy01> solder
Jun 14 08:03:00 <Yuv422> ah k
Jun 14 08:03:07 <tonymy01> soldered 3 pin
Jun 14 08:03:14 <Yuv422> right
Jun 14 08:05:48 <tonymy01> lol, the footy show in court
Jun 14 08:06:11 <tonymy01> but how would they know any different that the guy was drunk or not i suppose
Jun 14 08:06:24 <tonymy01> why am i watching commercial news
Jun 14 08:11:23 <Yuv422> probably not ch9 news, right? ;-)
Jun 14 08:16:05 <Matty__H> tony; did you make a serial cable to connect to the wiz?
Jun 14 08:17:10 <Matty__H> with the max232 type chip?
Jun 14 08:18:57 <tonymy01> yep
Jun 14 08:19:20 <tonymy01> damn, the sensor i put in has about 2 or 3metres less range
Jun 14 08:19:47 <Matty__H> :(
Jun 14 08:20:03 <tonymy01> it is fine from the couch, but not from here (the PC) in the next room
Jun 14 08:21:57 <Matty__H> do you think it is beyond the novice to put one together, I've put other serial cables together etc...
Jun 14 08:22:26 <tonymy01> it was all built for me already, when i was using it to connect to my car computer
Jun 14 08:22:42 <tonymy01> i just had to bypass the 12V to 5V regulator I had in it
Jun 14 08:22:54 <tonymy01> it only has about 6 components
Jun 14 08:24:50 <Matty__H> ok, the last one I had to put together was a null modem cable so I could work out why my wrap based fw had died
Jun 14 08:25:30 <tonymy01> it has a max232, a few capatiors and 2 resistors, so pretty easy
Jun 14 08:25:51 <Matty__H> yeah - there are a few circuit diags on-line
Jun 14 08:25:59 <Matty__H> I guess Jaycar have most of the bits
Jun 14 08:26:08 <tonymy01> yep, that is where i got mine from eons ago
Jun 14 08:31:57 <Matty__H> gives me a good excuse to go to Jaycar :D
Jun 14 08:32:07 <tonymy01> i have to find it
Jun 14 08:32:13 <tonymy01> it moved last weekend
Jun 14 08:32:30 <tonymy01> i missed their factory clearance sale by 10mins on saturday when i was driving past
Jun 14 08:32:40 <tonymy01> (main silverwater head office)
Jun 14 08:33:11 <Matty__H> I wonder if the IR extender for the ht8000 will work on the wiz?
Jun 14 08:33:29 <tonymy01> dunnoo
Jun 14 08:33:37 <Matty__H> I was using it at about 8-10m successfully
Jun 14 08:34:00 <Matty__H> it's a fish eye type lens
Jun 14 08:34:40 <Matty__H> works at almost 180 de
Jun 14 08:34:41 <Matty__H> g
Jun 14 08:43:05 * Matty__H goes off to play carcassonne - hopefully returning victorious
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