**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 22 02:59:58 2010 Aug 22 08:24:20 hi Aug 22 08:24:41 hi tony Aug 22 08:24:49 hi, tom Aug 22 08:25:11 howdy Aug 22 08:25:27 So how can I help? Aug 22 08:25:40 the basic problem is that trac does not have a good user login module Aug 22 08:25:56 the module has more holes than swiss cheeze Aug 22 08:26:23 that sounds like a substatial amount of work to fix. I don't use the trac interface, I use SVN+SSH Aug 22 08:26:25 and our problem children are using the trac as a 3rd party relay point (and its wide open) Aug 22 08:26:45 right...so who is using the trac interface? Aug 22 08:27:01 (legitimatly) Aug 22 08:28:26 i've never had any use for the trac interface, and I've never asked any of the other developers what they use. I'd just assumed that Rod had given SSH keys to all the legitimate users. If te trac was read-only, that's be fine with me. I can ask on the Beyonwiz forum if that woudl suit everyone else. Aug 22 08:29:02 okay I'm starting to move projects to redmine as an alternative Aug 22 08:29:12 ssh+svn works now Aug 22 08:29:20 I can turn back on mediawiki now. Aug 22 08:29:58 but trac is an issue as it is an open relay point and when they start using it we see 80Mb/sec transfers thru the trac server Aug 22 08:30:30 no idea what redmine is. It's be nice to have mediawiki back. I have some software I want to make availabe from there. I could never see how a developer would find the trac interface much use anyway. Aug 22 08:30:32 and it was the stimulus that crashed the server repeatedly . Aug 22 08:30:46 its an issue tracker mostly Aug 22 08:30:56 with svn access so that people can submit patches Aug 22 08:30:58 Nice that SSH+SVN is back. That's all I need, along with the wiki. Aug 22 08:31:56 I don't think anyone has ever posted issues on trac for the stuff I wrote/maintain Aug 22 08:32:11 most grumbles about it come on the BW forum Aug 22 08:33:22 okay, understood... Aug 22 08:33:34 the wiki should be back now. Aug 22 08:33:44 please verify you have SVN+SSH access. Aug 22 08:33:58 hang on... Aug 22 08:34:51 hmmm...we got some recursion going on... Aug 22 08:34:51 svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.openwiz.org/svnroot/wizfwtools/trunk/src': could not connect to server (https://svn.openwiz.org) Aug 22 08:35:38 yep, HTTP to openwiz.org is not so good :( Aug 22 08:35:53 ya, the config has a bit of recursion Aug 22 08:39:30 okay that will need a bit more work..lets figure out svn Aug 22 08:39:52 ok, does the error message mean anything to you? Aug 22 08:45:51 yes, and none of it good. Aug 23 02:02:46 Hi, Tom. Are you there? Aug 23 02:03:13 I am indeed. Aug 23 02:03:34 okay currently we have 3 people working on your server Aug 23 02:03:50 one is working on a possible replacement for trac called redmine Aug 23 02:04:05 I saw this morning that OpenWiz.org wiki was open again Aug 23 02:04:06 I am working on setting up ssl +svn to work again Aug 23 02:04:18 yes, that got fixed early this morning Aug 23 02:04:37 thanks for finding the people to work on this Aug 23 02:04:57 is there anything that I can do to help things along? Aug 23 02:05:01 after I am done getting svn+ssl working then I will turn back on trac if the fix is in Aug 23 02:05:16 yes, get efry to remember his password for trac as he is an admin Aug 23 02:05:31 and create a new user Aug 23 02:06:13 and give that user admin privs Aug 23 02:06:39 A new user for himself? Aug 23 02:06:52 no for me. Aug 23 02:06:59 I sent you a private message on that . Aug 23 02:09:46 Where? If it's on IRC I don't know how to access it Aug 23 02:10:30 what client are you using? Aug 23 02:11:07 I downloaded it as XChat2, but it has installed iteslf as YChat (i'm on Windows now) Aug 23 02:11:58 okay then you should see a second tab which has my nickname on it down on the bottom Aug 23 02:12:17 and is red probably Aug 23 02:23:17 prl, okay we have a plan now and we are executing it.... Aug 23 02:23:44 trying to ressurect trac, failing that redmine, and working on gettting ssl +svn working again. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 23 02:59:56 2010