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Jan 06 08:04:41 <nbd> .
Jan 06 11:31:40 <armijn> nbd: have you perhaps made any progress on the sitecom wl-105b?
Jan 06 11:51:11 <nbd> not yet
Jan 06 11:51:22 <nbd> i have no test hardware with me right now
Jan 06 11:51:25 <nbd> and i'm on 56k dialup...
Jan 06 11:54:08 <armijn> ok, just wondering :)
Jan 06 11:54:32 <armijn> 56k dialup...does that still exist?
Jan 06 11:57:56 <nbd> well, i'm using it right now, so i guess it does :)
Jan 06 11:58:23 <armijn> amazing.
Jan 06 13:27:15 <wigyori> okay, hostapd segfaults on the meraki
Jan 06 13:27:21 <wigyori> let's see 0.5.7
Jan 06 13:35:14 <armijn> for a wrt54gs, should I take whiterussian or kamikaze?
Jan 06 13:49:45 <wigyori> you won't have wireless in kamikaze
Jan 06 13:50:43 <wigyori> to be more exact, you won't have ap mode ;p
Jan 06 13:54:49 <armijn> wigyori: even if I stay with 2.4?
Jan 06 13:55:23 <armijn> I mean, the wifi driver there is working, I suppose
Jan 06 14:02:42 <wigyori> if you stay with 2.4, you'll have
Jan 06 14:03:00 <wigyori> sorry, 2.6 is default in kamikaze for me
Jan 06 14:04:33 <armijn> heh, ok
Jan 06 14:08:11 <nbd> with kamikaze and 2.4 you will get the new multi-ssid driver from broadcom
Jan 06 14:08:19 <nbd> it's fully integrated in /etc/config/wireless
Jan 06 14:08:31 <nbd> so feel free to use it :)
Jan 06 14:09:31 <armijn> you mean 'test it'
Jan 06 15:19:07 <knox> hey
Jan 06 15:19:16 <nbd> hey
Jan 06 15:19:39 <nbd> knox: i will :)
Jan 06 15:19:49 <knox> acutally i have no clue about openwrt to much
Jan 06 15:19:55 <knox> but maybe i can learn from this channel :-)
Jan 06 15:20:13 <gummibaerchen> nbd, hi ;)
Jan 06 15:20:14 <knox> btw, the fritzbox mod im using is in a major rewrite right now
Jan 06 15:20:30 <knox> the guy who maintains it learned a lot from openwrt,t oo
Jan 06 15:20:48 <nbd> gummibaerchen: hi
Jan 06 15:21:09 <nbd> knox: maybe he should move to the openwrt build system
Jan 06 15:21:24 <nbd> knox: even when using the old kernel, it is possible to do this with the openwrt build system directly
Jan 06 15:22:30 <knox> what we do in this project is to extend existing firmware with custom options
Jan 06 15:22:36 <nbd> i know
Jan 06 15:22:40 <knox> avm releases an opensource package
Jan 06 15:22:45 <knox> and we build up from there
Jan 06 15:22:48 <nbd> i know how the mod works
Jan 06 15:22:54 <knox> i dont know how much this fits to openwrt?
Jan 06 15:23:06 <knox> what i know is that the way of makefiles works is just the same
Jan 06 15:23:12 <nbd> it doesn't fit into the project, but you can reuse our build system completely
Jan 06 15:23:20 <nbd> instead of reimplementing the same stuff again
Jan 06 15:23:51 <knox> there is a very good toolchain
Jan 06 15:24:07 <knox> well, i bet more skilled people than me work on that
Jan 06 15:24:13 <knox> i put my little shit into it ;-)
Jan 06 15:24:33 <nbd> :)
Jan 06 15:26:19 <knox> do you think it is possible to port openvpn to matrixssl?
Jan 06 15:26:35 <nbd> no idea. axtls would probably be a better choice
Jan 06 15:26:41 <knox> possibly this is a really hard nut for a guy like me but it would help me so much
Jan 06 15:26:53 <knox> never heard of that yet thanks for the hint
Jan 06 15:27:29 <knox> avm has some closed source binaries in their firm that link to a fucked openssl lib
Jan 06 15:27:42 <knox> to get openvpn working we remove their libs
Jan 06 15:27:49 <knox> and now more and more problems arise from that
Jan 06 15:28:15 <knox> and openvpn is also very hughe
Jan 06 15:28:20 <knox> to hughe for small fritzboxes
Jan 06 16:02:52 <armijn> does nbd already have a fritzbox to port OpenWrt on?
Jan 06 16:02:58 <nbd> yes
Jan 06 16:03:28 <armijn> ok
Jan 06 16:04:37 <armijn> ehr, port to, or put on
Jan 06 16:04:39 <armijn> d'oh.
Jan 06 16:04:57 <knox> but isnt it ported allready?
Jan 06 16:05:08 <armijn> not according to the wiki
Jan 06 16:05:12 <nbd> well, most parts of the hardware are not supported yet
Jan 06 16:05:15 <nbd> like all that voip stuff
Jan 06 16:05:19 <knox> yes
Jan 06 16:05:21 <knox> thats true
Jan 06 16:05:26 <nbd> and it will be very hard to support, because of binary-only drivers
Jan 06 16:05:27 <knox> but someone ran openwrt on it tho
Jan 06 16:05:42 <nbd> you can get some limited support on it
Jan 06 16:05:58 <knox> http://www.wehavemorefun.de/fritzbox/OpenWRT
Jan 06 16:06:04 <knox> i guess you knew
Jan 06 16:06:13 <armijn> I'm using my fritzbox 7140 as my primary router right now, so I'm not giving that away...
Jan 06 16:06:21 <armijn> or some other model...
Jan 06 16:06:24 <armijn> at least, with all the voip stuff
Jan 06 16:07:10 <knox> i have a fritzbox as primary router too
Jan 06 16:07:17 <knox> but i run a nice mod wich extends it quite a lot
Jan 06 16:07:37 <knox> (this is how i got to embedded things)
Jan 06 16:07:48 <knox> later on i got my first linksys
Jan 06 16:08:07 <knox> im not sure maybe sooner or later i sell the big 7170 and stick back to a simple fritzbox ata
Jan 06 16:08:18 <knox> and then turn an openwrt based device into the main thing
Jan 06 16:08:22 <nbd> for fritzbox, etc. we need some coordinated work, to make a fresh openwrt 2.6 port for ar7
Jan 06 16:08:38 <knox> maybe i can persuade some of the mod guys to help out
Jan 06 16:08:47 <nbd> that would be great
Jan 06 16:08:49 <knox> at least olistudent from ippf is very busy on it
Jan 06 16:08:53 <knox> and he knows a lot of shit
Jan 06 16:09:01 <nbd> yeah, i talked to him already
Jan 06 16:09:12 <armijn> nbd: got room for 22 AR7 based routers?
Jan 06 16:09:25 <nbd> i don't need more ar7 routers at the moment
Jan 06 16:09:34 <knox> ndb
Jan 06 16:09:35 <armijn> nbd: yes you do :P
Jan 06 16:09:39 <nbd> what for?
Jan 06 16:09:42 <knox> we have two se505 -4
Jan 06 16:09:48 <knox> that dont work with freifunk firmware
Jan 06 16:09:53 <knox> never tried custom openwrt tho
Jan 06 16:09:58 <knox> since i got two of these
Jan 06 16:10:03 <nbd> se505 is annoying
Jan 06 16:10:03 <knox> and i got them for free myself
Jan 06 16:10:06 <nbd> because of the ram limitation
Jan 06 16:10:06 <knox> i wanted to give one to you
Jan 06 16:10:08 <knox> but wait
Jan 06 16:10:13 <knox> there exist old model
Jan 06 16:10:15 <knox> with blue box
Jan 06 16:10:18 <knox> that have 16mb ram
Jan 06 16:10:23 <nbd> oh, nice
Jan 06 16:10:27 <knox> and some ppl managed to extend 8mb to 16mb too
Jan 06 16:10:35 <knox> we have both of this in freifunk hannover wiki
Jan 06 16:10:42 <knox> the ram extension is not new
Jan 06 16:10:49 <knox> but i think the blue box info is kinda unique
Jan 06 16:10:56 <knox> we found by buyig lots of theese on ebay
Jan 06 16:11:13 <knox> so look for the blue boxed ones and you get quite a cheap device for your openwrt
Jan 06 16:12:00 <nbd> armijn: as soon as openwrt is running well on the ar7 devices with 2.6, i can probably find lots of people that are interested in your hardware :)
Jan 06 16:14:03 <armijn> nbd: so this is the part where you start screaming to stop flooding you with hardware?
Jan 06 16:14:05 <armijn> :P
Jan 06 16:15:32 <nbd> i don't need more of the same
Jan 06 16:15:35 <nbd> :)
Jan 06 16:18:15 <armijn> not even ISDN stuff?
Jan 06 16:19:23 <armijn> meh, I'll just take stuff to FOSDEM.
Jan 06 16:20:10 <nbd> isdn stuff?
Jan 06 16:20:26 <nbd> i'm interested in that ... although i don't have isdn
Jan 06 16:20:27 <armijn> AR7 router/modem for ISDN
Jan 06 18:09:25 <CIA-6> nbd * r6008 /packages/net/nmap/ (3 files in 2 dirs): update nmap to 4.20 (patch by jens muecke)
Jan 06 18:26:55 <CIA-6> nbd * r6009 /trunk/package/busybox/patches/130-drop_werror.patch: drop -Werror from busybox - prevents compile errors like #1130
Jan 06 18:57:14 <CIA-6> nico * r6010 /packages/net/ctorrent/Makefile: update ctorrent to 1.3.4-dnh2.2 (closes: #1135)
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