**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 12 02:59:57 2007 Feb 12 08:29:33 malbon * r6284 /trunk/package/ntfs-3g/Makefile: Force dependency on LINUX_2_6 to stop building fuse on 2.4 kernels. Feb 12 15:40:18 nbd * r6285 /trunk/target/linux/uml-2.6/ (config config-diff): clean up uml-2.6 config, fixes buildbot pcmcia-cs error Feb 12 15:57:23 nbd * r6286 /trunk/package/busybox/patches/340-lock_util.patch: fix for multiple lock/unlock operations in 'lock' command (found by framer99) Feb 12 20:03:31 pavlov * r6287 /packages/net/nfs-kernel-server/Makefile: yank DEFAULT:=y out of here, as it is deprecated per nbd Feb 12 20:17:11 malbon * r6288 /trunk/package/fuse/Makefile: More dependencies are required to force fuse to Linux 2.6 only. Feb 12 21:40:10 nbd * r6289 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.4/patches/115-branch_emul_fix.patch: add kernel branch emulation fix from #1345 Feb 12 21:56:47 nbd * r6290 /trunk/package/busybox/patches/ (150-wget_segv_fix.patch 160-iproute_fixes.patch): add some more busybox patches from upstream Feb 12 22:09:21 mbm * r6291 /trunk/package/dnsmasq/patches/103-hosts-fqdn.patch: fix dnsmasq parsing of /etc/hosts for fqdn cases like "localhost." Feb 12 22:16:51 mbm * r6292 /trunk/package/base-files/files/etc/hosts: Change localhost into a fully qualified name; remove OpenWrt alias to 127.0.0.1 Feb 12 23:12:32 nbd * r6293 /trunk/ (package/ntfs-3g/Makefile scripts/metadata.pl): Feb 12 23:12:32 Menuconfig will not treat 'select FOO' as a real dependency Feb 12 23:12:32 thus if BAR depends on FOO and FOO depends on other config Feb 12 23:12:32 options, these dependencies will not be checked. Feb 12 23:12:32 To fix this, we simply emit all of FOO's depends (only real Feb 12 23:12:32 dependencies, no select) for BAR as well. Feb 13 00:17:06 nbd * r6294 /trunk/target/linux/ (3 files in 3 dirs): move tlb change for mips 4KC to generic patches (required for most mips targets) Feb 13 00:18:52 hm, what is the easiest way to discover a serial port on a device? Feb 13 00:18:59 that is, without much heavy soldering Feb 13 00:19:05 or without any soldering at all Feb 13 00:19:18 apart from specifications Feb 13 00:19:25 <[mbm]> you can do it with a multimeter Feb 13 00:19:32 I heard some stuff about piezo buzzers Feb 13 00:19:38 heard/read Feb 13 00:19:52 <[mbm]> most serial ports have quite a bit of activity on bootup Feb 13 00:20:03 <[mbm]> yeah that works too Feb 13 00:20:47 <[mbm]> you identify ground (or if you're lazy you can often get away with using any metal sheilding) and then you randomly pick another pin Feb 13 00:20:57 <[mbm]> if you're using a meter you look at the voltage Feb 13 00:21:16 <[mbm]> should show 3.3v dropping down on serial activity Feb 13 00:21:32 <[mbm]> if the meter has a needle it'll twitch Feb 13 00:21:50 <[mbm]> if you use a piezo you'll get static Feb 13 00:22:44 <[mbm]> I'd suggest wiring the serial port using one of those cellphone cables since that lets you skip vcc Feb 13 00:23:06 <[mbm]> meaning that you can start just by connecting gnd-gnd and the router's tx to the cable's rx Feb 13 00:23:12 <[mbm]> and see if you get any data Feb 13 00:23:17 those are pretty to find Feb 13 00:23:23 unless the USB variants are also ok Feb 13 00:23:31 +hard Feb 13 00:23:44 <[mbm]> cellphones tend to be either straight usb or usb-serial Feb 13 00:24:00 <[mbm]> the serial cables are pretty easy to identify since they have a serial chip in the center of the cable Feb 13 00:24:18 but they are ok too Feb 13 00:24:18 ? Feb 13 00:24:32 <[mbm]> you want a usb-serial cable Feb 13 00:24:48 <[mbm]> chop off the cellphone connector and find the rx, tx, gnd pins Feb 13 00:25:16 hm, yes, it should not matter if the other end is db9 or usb Feb 13 00:25:23 getting late...brain fried... Feb 13 00:25:45 armijn: see http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort for some options Feb 13 00:26:15 including a list of pins for popular phone cables Feb 13 00:29:14 <[mbm]> I'm lazy; it takes too long to look up the cable pinouts Feb 13 00:29:34 <[mbm]> so, if rx pin is connected to a vcc or gnd you get noise on the line Feb 13 00:29:46 <[mbm]> and if it's connected to a tx pin you get a local echo Feb 13 00:34:01 * armijn wonders how he can make irssi log Feb 13 00:34:38 better save that until tomorrow...or...later Feb 13 00:34:51 you should turn on automatic logging Feb 13 00:35:09 I should... Feb 13 00:35:17 having lots of logfiles that you can run grep on is nice Feb 13 00:35:25 saves you from having to remember all that stuff Feb 13 02:30:39 nbd * r6295 /trunk/include/netfilter.mk: fix multiport netfilter module installation (patch from #1280) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 13 03:00:00 2007