**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 19 02:59:57 2007 Sep 19 04:19:32 nico * r8837 /packages/net/lighttpd/ (Makefile files/lighttpd.conf): force use of the "write" network-backend (closes: #2401), bump release number Sep 19 06:37:35 [mbm]: ping Sep 19 06:38:54 idle 12 hrs. -- may even be asleep, as it is 23:35 here Sep 19 06:43:01 sn9: there is a persistant problem with not being able to add new topics to the 'howto and documentation' section in the forum - and it would be odd if mbm new nothing about this? Sep 19 06:44:03 he didn't mention what was wrong with the wiki in this channel, either Sep 19 06:44:04 the problem needs to be solved, or explained Sep 19 06:45:11 * glp_home just hit the wrong key combination Sep 19 06:45:19 ctrl-w? Sep 19 06:47:16 sn9: yes - firefox just updated itself and i wanted to close a tap while having the wrong window active etc. etc. Sep 19 06:48:49 i've hit ctrl-w in xchat before when intending to delete a word (emacs keybinding used in bash, even though i prefer vim -- go figure) Sep 19 07:17:16 grrr... DocBook is suddenly becoming tempting... Sep 19 07:24:47 Bartman007: don't don't be tempted by the "evil" intentions of docbook, it will take over your mind and twist you into docbook-zombie :P Sep 19 07:28:30 glp_home: was that an intentional double negative? Sep 19 07:29:05 Bartman007: yes (trying to do the zombie-studder) Sep 19 07:31:09 Bartman007: but - in earnest, docbook is tempting Sep 19 07:32:57 the modular nature of it is what is drawing me. (The ability to hyperlink between individual files) Sep 19 07:33:05 like html or a wiki. Sep 19 07:35:11 most of my problems with latex are due to the largely monolithic nature of it. The tendancy is to generate a single output file; the few processors I've played with can't generate output files with meaningful names, or require additional syntax (like hevea/hacha) to know what names to use. Sep 19 07:35:48 Bartman007: yep Sep 19 07:36:54 hell, moinmoin can export to docbook, but there are a few problems with that. Sep 19 07:37:13 Bartman007: what are the problems? Sep 19 07:37:35 the minor one is that pyxml needs to be installed on the wiki server :-) Sep 19 07:38:18 the major (IMO) problems are the lack of maintenance of the moin docbook code. Sep 19 07:39:05 the current implementation isn't complete. the author improved upon in during a google SoC2006 project, but that code has not been merged into the 1.6 main branch. Sep 19 07:39:17 he no longer has time to work on it, so it remain stagnant. Sep 19 07:41:44 Bartman007: which is back to the practical question; how to build a workflow for entering and processing content which results in auto-generation of html/docbook (web) and a pdf (download) Sep 19 07:41:46 I'm also reluctant to rely on the wiki for versioning the docs. I would definitely prefer to have the documentation managed within svn. Sep 19 07:42:19 glp_home: the Ubuntu DocTeam seems to have a decent workflow. Sep 19 07:42:58 Bartman007: i havn't looked at what they are doing, do you have a link? Sep 19 07:43:24 yeah, trying to find the right link (too many tabs, too little pixels) Sep 19 07:44:11 I suppose this works, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam Sep 19 07:44:18 * glp_home thinking about going for a 24" next time Sep 19 07:45:15 I find it somewhat amusing that David Farning ported some of the Ubuntu DocTeam stuff into the OpenWrt wiki to function as a starting point, and I seemed to run across their efforts at about the same time independantly. Sep 19 07:46:18 http://doc.ubuntu.com/ <--- has a bit higher content:cruft ratio. Sep 19 07:48:09 Bartman007: this ubuntu-doc looks really nice Sep 19 07:48:35 glp_home: here's their svn repo: https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/ Sep 19 07:52:09 Bartman007: let's go the docbook way - and pick the best pieces from ubuntu-doc-team (no reason to re-invent the wheel)? Sep 19 07:53:56 Bartman007: I'll look a bit more at what david farning has done while i have a bit to eat Sep 19 07:55:50 glp_home: David hasn't done much yet, merely created some rough frameworks/templates to use, but he used the ubuntu docteam wiki as a base Sep 19 07:58:52 Bartman007: I need to flip a bit back and forth and think (and the eating aspect is quite important) Sep 19 08:00:20 that fine, it's 1am here anyway, I should probably head to bed soon. Sep 19 11:58:31 nico * r8838 /trunk/package/kernel/modules/other.mk: only build sound-core module on targets supporting USB, since we don't have any PCI sound devices supported atm Sep 19 13:00:18 ejka * r8839 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/files/drivers/net/cpmac.c: cleanup (use dma API, use accessors, debugging/printk cleanup) Sep 19 14:45:36 nbd * r8840 /trunk/package/base-files/files/etc/functions.sh: support true and false in config_get_bool Sep 19 15:38:39 nbd * r8841 /trunk/package/base-files/files/lib/config/uci.awk: sync awk implementation of config_get_bool with the shell variant Sep 19 15:55:41 rwhitby * r8842 /packages/utils/bluez-utils/ (4 files in 3 dirs): bluez-utils: Added startup script and configuration file. Set bluetooth identifier to the hostname. Sep 19 16:02:31 olli * r8843 /packages/net/wol/Makefile: wol: Cleanup Makefile Sep 19 17:01:10 nbd, ping Sep 19 17:01:16 forum2006: pong Sep 19 17:01:31 nbd, is this http://pastebin.ca/703479 ok, or should i restructure the config file? Sep 19 17:02:59 how about this? http://pastebin.ca/703481 Sep 19 17:03:11 _1, _2, ... lists are messy Sep 19 17:03:57 nbd, not bad :) Sep 19 17:04:18 i thought that _1, _2, ... is not a good way of doing this Sep 19 17:06:39 :) Sep 19 17:10:54 nbd, http://pastebin.ca/703495 Sep 19 17:10:56 Ok ? Sep 19 17:21:13 nbd, http://pastebin.ca/703506 Sep 19 17:23:15 should i use something else which fits better for option wakeup ? Sep 19 17:35:45 i think you should remove the global enable/disable Sep 19 17:35:57 and move it to the wol-target sections Sep 19 17:36:09 and remove the 'option wakeup true/false' Sep 19 17:37:32 nbd, why remove wakeup option? Sep 19 17:39:19 isn't the wakeup option some kind of enable/disable setting already? Sep 19 17:39:26 forum2006: you should have a option interface "lan" (replace lan with the proper interface name) Sep 19 17:39:43 interface lan is fine Sep 19 17:39:51 it can use the network state to resolve that to the real interface Sep 19 17:40:17 I meant if the user has more networks defined Sep 19 17:40:45 s/interface/network/ Sep 19 17:40:53 nbd, the reason for wakeup option is to activate/deactivate hosts... Sep 19 17:41:07 yes Sep 19 17:41:13 and i'm proposing to rename it to enabled Sep 19 17:41:17 for consistency reasons Sep 19 17:41:35 the only other thing that would be useful is the support of wol passwords Sep 19 17:41:42 * thepeople is relaying info Sep 19 17:42:05 so, this is what i have now: http://pastebin.ca/703539 Sep 19 17:42:17 feel free to add to this pastebin... Sep 19 17:43:16 looks ok Sep 19 17:43:53 http://pastebin.ca/703544 Sep 19 17:44:36 thepeople, Ok Sep 19 17:45:39 now the difficult part comes, the init script... Sep 19 17:49:11 sorry for asking again. for what should be the option network? Sep 19 17:50:03 wol --help: http://pastebin.ca/703557 Sep 19 17:51:14 forum2006: config_load network; config_load /var/state/network Sep 19 17:51:27 forum2006: then use config_get ifname "$network" ifname Sep 19 17:51:50 forum2006: have a look at these pages to consider what options to store in the config file: Sep 19 17:51:55 http://www.lubek.name/test/wol.png Sep 19 17:52:14 http://www.lubek.name/test/etherwake.png Sep 19 17:52:36 wol and etherwake should use the same config file Sep 19 17:52:55 and there is no more etherwake in official package repo Sep 19 17:53:00 ah Sep 19 17:53:06 lubek, thanks for the screenshot Sep 19 17:53:13 it is not a problem to port it Sep 19 17:54:18 lubek, so. only a option to store the ip address is missing Sep 19 17:56:41 you need broadcast address, port, password (and maybe wait) parameters for wol Sep 19 17:59:50 ether-wake would require the interface, password and broadcast flag Sep 19 18:00:58 ether-wake is no longer a official package, so it's for wol only Sep 19 18:01:01 lubek, http://pastebin.ca/703574 Sep 19 18:03:12 wol uses only the ip address (no network), the packet is routed according to the kernel route table Sep 19 18:03:54 again, it is not a problem to port ether-wake, it is in X-Wrt wr SVN Sep 19 18:04:36 lubek, lets do the uci config file first for wol. then once you have ported ether-wake you can submit a patch Sep 19 18:04:46 for the config Sep 19 18:05:03 ok, go on :-) Sep 19 18:05:42 lubek, so for wol is my last pastebin ok or do i also need an option for the ip? Sep 19 18:06:34 lubek, change the pastebin if you like Sep 19 18:06:46 it is ok (ip = broadcast address) Sep 19 18:08:53 Okie Sep 19 18:09:39 just notice that the hostname is only a description; uClibc does not have support for /etc/ Sep 19 18:10:54 yeah, option hostname should be used for the description for each wol-target Sep 19 18:11:58 and another comment: should it be synced with ethers and hosts? Sep 19 18:12:42 lubek, not at this time. can be patched later to do this Sep 19 18:13:45 ok, i am looking forward your solution :-) Sep 19 18:14:01 Ok Sep 19 18:46:03 nbd, should this work: http://pastebin.ca/703619 ? Sep 19 18:48:06 $args is empty Sep 19 18:48:40 (pre-7.09) Sep 19 18:50:18 local cfg="$cfg" is wrong Sep 19 18:50:52 ah, cool :) Sep 19 18:51:25 s/$cfg/$1/ Sep 19 18:55:58 --passwd= passwordhere --host= 255.255.255.255 --port= 40000 Sep 19 18:56:15 nbd, how to remove the space between --passwd= pass.... Sep 19 18:56:19 ? Sep 19 18:57:23 well, remove the space in the append call Sep 19 18:58:22 nbd, append_string "$cfg" password "--passwd=" Sep 19 18:58:51 and append_string inserts the space Sep 19 19:00:06 nbd, inside append_string() ? Sep 19 19:00:39 yes Sep 19 19:00:52 # Sep 19 19:00:53 [ -n "$_val" ] && append args "$3 $_val" Sep 19 19:00:56 line 234 Sep 19 19:00:57 23 Sep 19 19:01:37 nbd, yeppie :) Sep 19 19:02:00 -[ -n "$_val" ] && append args "$3 $_val" Sep 19 19:02:05 +[ -n "$_val" ] && append args "$3$_val" Sep 19 19:02:09 :) Sep 19 19:02:12 ;) Sep 19 19:02:32 --passwd=passwordhere --host=255.255.255.255 --port=40000 Sep 19 19:02:54 so far so good Sep 19 19:06:34 nbd, append_string() is cool :) Sep 19 19:06:40 ;) Sep 19 19:06:55 i hope i'll find the motivation to implement the feed system tonight Sep 19 19:07:09 feed system? Sep 19 19:07:21 http://nbd.name/feeds.txt Sep 19 19:08:00 very good :) Sep 19 19:14:40 that rocks Sep 19 19:15:11 yay, easy feeding for webif packages :_) Sep 19 19:15:16 :-) Sep 19 19:15:18 yep Sep 19 19:15:30 x-wrt will be in the default feed list Sep 19 19:15:52 thanks Sep 19 19:16:01 and you guys can create branches for our releases Sep 19 19:16:15 so that you can backport changes even after the release Sep 19 19:16:25 wow Sep 19 19:16:28 without running into api incompatiblity issues Sep 19 19:16:32 awesome Sep 19 19:16:49 that should make decentrailized openwrt development much easier Sep 19 19:17:02 yes it should Sep 19 19:20:34 root@OpenWrt:~# /etc/init.d/wol start Sep 19 19:20:34 /usr/bin/wol --passwd=passwordhere --host=255.255.255.255 --port=40000 11:22:33:44:55:66 Sep 19 19:20:34 /usr/bin/wol --host=255.255.255.255 aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff Sep 19 19:20:36 :) Sep 19 19:26:54 .p Sep 19 19:26:55 ;) Sep 19 19:35:07 nbd, http://pastebin.ca/703698 - works so far. but still wondering were what i should do with the network option Sep 19 19:40:29 i wrote that above Sep 19 19:40:36 i think Sep 19 19:40:49 19:49 < nbd> forum2006: config_load network; config_load /var/state/network Sep 19 19:40:52 19:49 < nbd> forum2006: then use config_get ifname "$network" ifname Sep 19 19:41:13 but for what is it good if i put it in the start() ? Sep 19 19:41:35 the config_get call is what matters Sep 19 19:46:39 nbd, added config_load network; config_load /var/state/network and config_get ifname "$network" ifname to the start(). anything else? Sep 19 19:47:38 uhm Sep 19 19:47:44 understand what these statements are doing Sep 19 19:47:47 and put them in the right place Sep 19 19:47:55 the first two in start() is ok Sep 19 19:48:04 but the config_get call is what you need to understand ;) Sep 19 19:48:12 Ok Sep 19 19:53:20 blogic * r8844 /trunk/target/linux/x86/ (3 files in 2 dirs): root users folder is now in the fs and no longer /tmp Sep 19 19:54:40 blogic: please make the /root change global Sep 19 19:54:44 blogic: not x86 specific Sep 19 19:55:07 nbd, darkstat.init uses config_get ifname too. but atleast uses it as an command line argument Sep 19 19:55:15 i don't get this Sep 19 19:55:56 nbd: really? I get the feeling a ran across a few pacakges that like creating ~/.foo entires, can't remember any specific one though. Sep 19 19:56:07 s/a ran/I ran/ Sep 19 19:56:21 Bartman007: let me know when you find examples Sep 19 19:56:52 nbd ? Sep 19 19:56:54 ok Sep 19 19:59:27 nbd: I know I patched tor to use /var/lib/tor instead (already commited,) hopefully the others come to me. Sep 19 19:59:42 weechat, elinks Sep 19 20:00:16 blogic * r8845 /trunk/ (6 files in 4 dirs): made HOME=/root global instead of x86 specific Sep 19 20:00:17 Bartman007: ok Sep 19 20:00:24 at least I have /tmp/.weechat and /tmp/.elinks Sep 19 20:01:56 * blogic popels in nbds ohr Sep 19 20:02:07 haha Sep 19 20:02:18 nbd: where would i look best if i wanted to do that postinst thing ? Sep 19 20:02:44 nbd: and will let you review the patch first, no worries :-) Sep 19 20:04:08 nbd, can you give me a hint, please? Sep 19 20:05:46 blogic: for a postinst script just have the makefile copy a file to packagename/CONTROL/postinst Sep 19 20:05:55 thepeople: nope Sep 19 20:06:03 ? Sep 19 20:06:06 thepeople: postinst is only run on ipkg install Sep 19 20:06:16 i need to have it run on target/install Sep 19 20:06:25 otherwise the fonts of the Xorg get screwed Sep 19 20:06:34 or their fiónts.dir files Sep 19 20:07:03 and there is no point in commiting xserve, until this is fixed, as manual work needs to be done in the image after install Sep 19 20:07:35 blogic: are you working on xorg support for openwrt (for the S100)? Sep 19 20:07:40 hmm, that is a issue Sep 19 20:07:58 blogic: just "patch away" the part og the installscript Sep 19 20:08:00 loswillios: i have it running already on s100 and anyother platform with vga Sep 19 20:08:16 loswillios: and kdrive for pdas :-) Sep 19 20:08:25 huhu, xorg for openwrt :) Sep 19 20:08:29 loswillios: so hopefully i will have owrt running on my zaurus soonish Sep 19 20:08:54 wow, very impressive Sep 19 20:08:56 forum2006: i will hopefully commit tonight Sep 19 20:09:03 blogic: i have an idea Sep 19 20:09:14 blogic: a global postinst might not be the best solution Sep 19 20:09:22 loswillios: the aim is to have a htpc distro for s100 based on owrt Sep 19 20:09:28 nbd: oki Sep 19 20:09:32 blogic: whenever you install a font package, the index needs to be updated Sep 19 20:09:39 welll Sep 19 20:09:47 blogic: so make a regular postinst script that is used for every font related package Sep 19 20:09:50 it is a file and they need to be merged, using a single line Sep 19 20:10:02 blogic: yep. I have seen some uclibc patches for vdr, maybe I can find them again Sep 19 20:10:13 loswillios: got them already Sep 19 20:10:52 ;) Sep 19 20:12:08 blogic: do you think SDL is too bloated/has too much dependancies? I know that MMS needs SDL... Sep 19 20:12:22 nbd, i know what config_get ifname is doing. what else do i have to understand? Sep 19 20:12:29 loswillios: i am wanting to use mms Sep 19 20:12:42 loswillios: i have etch on my s100 at the moment and it is bloated Sep 19 20:12:52 using etch + mms + vdr Sep 19 20:13:01 and a cynergy dvbt Sep 19 20:13:21 blogic: I have exactly the same setup, even the DVB-T USB Sep 19 20:13:24 forum2006: the value of option network is the interface name that you want to resolve Sep 19 20:13:27 hehe Sep 19 20:13:51 nbd: but where do i call the postinst script ? Sep 19 20:14:00 blogic: ipkg does it Sep 19 20:14:13 IPKG_INSTROOT points to the root directory Sep 19 20:14:18 for calls from the host system Sep 19 20:14:24 on the target system it is empty Sep 19 20:15:19 nbd, and config_get in start_service() needs ifname or what? Sep 19 20:15:50 oki Sep 19 20:15:57 s/start_service/append_string/ Sep 19 20:16:29 put it in a script how you think it should be used Sep 19 20:16:32 and i will review it Sep 19 20:16:41 ok Sep 19 20:17:00 ejka: good job Sep 19 20:17:01 blogic: that was meat for forum2006, but i guess it applies to you as well ;) Sep 19 20:17:04 it'll be a while, i wanna finish cleaning the xorg tree first Sep 19 20:17:05 ejka: i'll test it now Sep 19 20:17:17 nbd: blub Sep 19 20:17:19 . Sep 19 20:17:27 ;) Sep 19 20:19:40 nbd, http://pastebin.ca/703763 - (jetzt kannst du mich hauen, it's wrong, isn't it?) Sep 19 20:20:24 you used $network without actually defining it anywhere Sep 19 20:23:30 can't follow you atm Sep 19 20:24:25 why not? Sep 19 20:26:04 i think because i still don't understand why i need this damn option network in the config file while it is not used in the wol command line Sep 19 20:27:03 I think option network was intended for ether-wake to only broadcast on a given interface Sep 19 20:27:03 blogic: MMS should at least build with uclibc. I have seen some commits in that direction a few weeks ago Sep 19 20:27:20 blogic: talking about 1.1.0 Sep 19 20:27:21 forum2006: option network lan specifies an interface config name Sep 19 20:27:29 you need to convert the interface config name to a real interface name Sep 19 20:27:37 that's what you read the network config and state for Sep 19 20:27:40 for this conversion Sep 19 20:28:02 nbd, i think thepeople understands me what's confusing me atm Sep 19 20:28:40 loswillios: makeing things uclibc compatible is actually trivial, once you get used to it Sep 19 20:28:42 wol doesn't have a interface option unfortunatly Sep 19 20:29:00 thepeople, :) Sep 19 20:29:00 loswillios: i like my s100 :-) Sep 19 20:29:15 loswillios: got the 4th one last week :-) Sep 19 20:29:40 loswillios: digital entertainment is important :-) Sep 19 20:30:10 nbd: i was just talking to [ryd] we should add a s100 next to blubber so we have movies in the club :-) Sep 19 20:30:20 sounds cool Sep 19 20:30:24 yep Sep 19 20:30:29 the s100 could replace blubber's job of playing music Sep 19 20:30:36 hmmz Sep 19 20:30:39 actually yes Sep 19 20:30:41 i hate the noise that this fat pc makes Sep 19 20:30:46 yep Sep 19 20:30:53 i am hearing it atm :-) Sep 19 20:30:59 so we need a big hdd inside Sep 19 20:31:01 for movies and music Sep 19 20:31:15 blogic: yeah :) I have a Samsung SMT 7020 as well but I think openwrt would be impossible because of the lack of a vga port (only vga via IEGD) Sep 19 20:31:15 we should collect some money from the club for that Sep 19 20:31:15 well we could mount blubbers hdd :-) Sep 19 20:31:18 disk space is cheap Sep 19 20:31:43 loswillios: what you mean lack of vga ? Sep 19 20:31:47 nbd: yep Sep 19 20:32:06 nbd: i already have a s100 with hdd inside the case and mpd running using owrt Sep 19 20:32:17 ;) Sep 19 20:32:19 blogic: err, only Scart via IEGD. no VGA. but the hw is very similar to the S100 Sep 19 20:32:31 loswillios: ermmm ttyS ?!? Sep 19 20:32:41 ttyS ... nice for movies ;) Sep 19 20:32:47 and i got my scart out working under linux Sep 19 20:32:48 you can use mplayer with aalib Sep 19 20:32:50 or libcaca Sep 19 20:32:52 ;) Sep 19 20:33:13 nbd: the gfx chip has a vga and a tv-out Sep 19 20:33:25 blogic: really? I thought that's only possible with with the intel IEGD driver Sep 19 20:33:27 the tv-out goes over a i2c ctl'ed modulator to a scart Sep 19 20:33:37 loswillios: ermmm did you not install them ? Sep 19 20:33:43 wtf ? Sep 19 20:33:54 how do you watch movies on your tv then ? Sep 19 20:34:13 loswillios: owrt will include those patches, rest assured Sep 19 20:34:14 I haven't replaced my main unit yet :P Sep 19 20:34:18 ok :-) Sep 19 20:34:32 thepeople, what do you think http://pastebin.ca/703796 ? Sep 19 20:34:43 we do arcg ports so a gfx driver is rather trivial Sep 19 20:34:50 s/argc/arch/g Sep 19 20:34:58 ah ok Sep 19 20:35:07 blogic: you really should have an eye on the SMT 7020, it looks very nice Sep 19 20:35:13 hehe Sep 19 20:35:19 feel free to donate 1 :-) Sep 19 20:36:06 how good is your german? http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Samsung_SMT-7020S Sep 19 20:36:14 loswillios: i am from HH :-) Sep 19 20:36:37 * loswillios shuts up now Sep 19 20:36:40 :P Sep 19 20:36:41 loswillios: it has a fan in it, no use Sep 19 20:36:46 :P Sep 19 20:36:56 it's barely running Sep 19 20:37:26 thepeople, works for wol Sep 19 20:37:39 looks good Sep 19 20:38:17 thepeople, ok Sep 19 20:38:21 loswillios: is that dvb-s ? Sep 19 20:38:24 and a seconed review from nbd Sep 19 20:38:43 blogic: yes Sep 19 20:38:47 hmm Sep 19 20:38:54 blogic: but no wlan and no PCI Sep 19 20:39:03 it says i pci slot Sep 19 20:39:24 loswillios: ah no Sep 19 20:43:13 blogic: just curious, what will be the size of the image you think? Sep 19 20:43:43 you think it'll fit into the 32mb DOM? Sep 19 20:45:27 hmmm Sep 19 20:45:30 good question :-) Sep 19 20:45:40 nbd * r8846 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/ (config-2.6.22 config-default): enable jffs2 summary for faster mount time Sep 19 20:45:49 the current X image compiles at around 50 MB Sep 19 20:46:01 whoa Sep 19 20:46:03 loswillios: but that has lots of fonts etc in it Sep 19 20:46:03 that's huge Sep 19 20:46:09 nbd: i know :-) Sep 19 20:46:27 nbd: common, i am happy it works, there is always time to tidy up Sep 19 20:46:35 yeah Sep 19 20:46:36 definitely Sep 19 20:46:40 lol Sep 19 20:46:44 bloat Sep 19 20:46:48 nice piece of work getting it to compile in the first place Sep 19 20:46:52 * crazy_imp remembers the images with a very small x for his agenda vr3 are far bevow 8mb :D Sep 19 20:46:52 * blogic goes to install OE instead Sep 19 20:46:57 I have talked to some gentoo-embedded guy who has it squeezed into 32mb with X and VDR. I'll try to contact him Sep 19 20:47:09 nbd: indeed Sep 19 20:47:10 loswillios: no need, we will mange Sep 19 20:47:21 ok Sep 19 20:47:24 loswillios: it has only been working for 2 days Sep 19 20:47:39 I never thought that this would ever happen :) Sep 19 20:47:40 loswillios: i only have xterm, xeyes and xlogo running atm Sep 19 20:47:57 loswillios: wanna get a clean build committed and the do the next phase Sep 19 20:48:23 loswillios: i am looking forward to the news on linuxdevices when the vdr images are done :-) Sep 19 20:48:23 blogic: glxgears is next ;-) Sep 19 20:48:42 heh ;) Sep 19 20:48:42 Bartman007: ermm libGL already compiles :-) not tried the gears yet Sep 19 20:49:03 there is still lots to do :-) Sep 19 20:49:17 nbd: like a stage3 gcc :-) Sep 19 20:49:25 ;) Sep 19 20:49:42 nbd: might check that out in at some point tonight Sep 19 20:49:48 would be interesting to adapt the build system to do native compiling to ipkg Sep 19 20:50:02 nbd: well Sep 19 20:50:22 the idea is to have a owrt tree on a host running owrt and develop packages in there Sep 19 20:50:40 nbd: once owrt runs on my laptop, i am forced to write packages for all my apps :-) Sep 19 20:51:27 nbd: i thought we already had the option to say, there is a toolchain already ?!? Sep 19 20:51:48 that doesn't really work well in practice Sep 19 20:52:00 i'm thinking about removing it, actually Sep 19 20:52:14 or just not enabling it menuconfig Sep 19 20:52:17 until we have a use for it Sep 19 20:52:48 we have a use -) Sep 19 20:52:50 +: Sep 19 20:52:56 well, it's not usable yet Sep 19 20:53:00 so let's do the groundwork first Sep 19 20:53:02 oki Sep 19 20:53:06 sure Sep 19 20:53:17 lets get X commited for example Sep 19 20:53:36 the problem is that the test build take a loooooonnnng time :) Sep 19 20:53:58 its somewhere around 60 packages atm Sep 19 20:54:39 loswillios: http://nbd.name/test/X.png Sep 19 20:54:52 loswillios: thats the setup running inside a qemu Sep 19 20:55:59 neat Sep 19 20:56:14 :P Sep 19 20:56:56 blogic: next step is fluxbox? Sep 19 20:57:09 crazy_imp: ermmm ... look at the screenshot Sep 19 20:57:14 nbd * r8847 /trunk/scripts/kconfig.pl: fix kconfig.pl split for config symbols that have "0" as value Sep 19 20:57:16 hehe Sep 19 20:57:18 crazy_imp: it is running fluxbox Sep 19 20:57:20 blogic: ahh, true :D Sep 19 20:57:30 xfce is also running already Sep 19 20:57:32 just saw the fluxbox tab in the ff Sep 19 20:57:47 ah yes :-) Sep 19 20:58:32 nbd: do you have an idea why dropbear fails to build on 7.09 (includes.h:66:19: error: utmpx.h: No such file or directory)? http://pastebin.ca/raw/703817 Sep 19 20:59:01 nbd: before we releas 7.09 tell me :-) Sep 19 20:59:10 i still need to commit the new kernel for foxboard Sep 19 20:59:33 nbd: so 7.09 can have fox as stable Sep 19 21:00:00 and then i can tell the foxboard users about it and finally stop supporting the piece of crap SDK from acme Sep 19 21:00:25 nbd * r8848 /trunk/target/linux/ (18 files in 18 dirs): clean up jffs2 config options Sep 19 21:00:36 blogic: sounds good to me Sep 19 21:00:53 blogic: if the current state is stable already, feel free to backport it to 7.09 and commit Sep 19 21:01:07 nbd: i got a patch from axis last night, 3 MB after i cleaned it, it was around 700 k Sep 19 21:01:15 :) Sep 19 21:01:28 nbd: sure, will do it before the weekend Sep 19 21:01:35 great Sep 19 21:01:42 i'll start doing prerelease build soon Sep 19 21:01:49 maybe i'll kick off the build before going to sleep tonight Sep 19 21:01:50 urghs Sep 19 21:02:03 urghs? Sep 19 21:02:15 i need to hurry then Sep 19 21:02:17 nbd: watch out for dropbear ;) Sep 19 21:02:17 no Sep 19 21:02:29 blogic: 0.7mb->3mb? :D Sep 19 21:02:30 blogic: take your time. i will update them frequently when the tree changes Sep 19 21:02:38 ok Sep 19 21:02:56 crazy_imp: you know the foxboard ? Sep 19 21:03:11 blogic: no? Sep 19 21:03:22 ok, don't worry then :-) Sep 19 21:03:37 the cpu is made by axis in sweden and they make shitty patchs Sep 19 21:03:55 just wondering about the fact the patches grow bigger while cleaning them up :D Sep 19 21:04:01 ah :-) Sep 19 21:04:05 you know what i mean Sep 19 21:05:55 damn... my brain filters out most grammar/spelling errors when reading text on irc Sep 19 21:06:11 i don't even notice them anymore Sep 19 21:08:06 nbd: i made Xorg depend on x86 Sep 19 21:08:15 ok Sep 19 21:08:19 nbd, http://pastebin.ca/703837 - go for committing? Sep 19 21:08:19 but Sep 19 21:09:08 nbd: if i select say brcm, the menus are still there but empty Sep 19 21:09:16 forum2006: go ahead Sep 19 21:09:22 :) Sep 19 21:09:33 blogic: should probably fix that in menuconfig Sep 19 21:09:48 i'll do it when i have time Sep 19 21:09:52 lol Sep 19 21:10:15 nbd: seen the greenphone/fic news ? Sep 19 21:10:24 nbd: so you are hacking the new feeds system? :) Sep 19 21:10:32 blogic: yes Sep 19 21:10:37 blogic: quite interesting Sep 19 21:10:38 nbd: :) Sep 19 21:10:51 crazy_imp: still in the planning phase, but i might hack on it tonight Sep 19 21:10:58 i wanted to add qtopia for the "zaurus" anyway Sep 19 21:11:08 yeah Sep 19 21:12:46 blogic: btw. can you try amazon again with the recent kernel config change? Sep 19 21:12:49 (jffs2 summary) Sep 19 21:13:01 i'd like to know if that config change fixes the long delay at boot time Sep 19 21:15:23 nbd: tomorrow and we really need to fix the pci support Sep 19 21:15:32 yeah Sep 19 21:15:47 nbd: on etch, how do i find out again from which dpkg a file comes ? Sep 19 21:15:59 dpkg -S Sep 19 21:16:02 iirc Sep 19 21:17:29 dpkg-query -S Sep 19 21:18:00 dpkg -S is fine Sep 19 21:18:31 oh, so you are right. :-) Sep 19 21:23:14 olli * r8849 /packages/net/wol/ (Makefile files/ files/wol.config files/wol.init): wol: Add a init script and a UCI configuration file Sep 19 21:33:40 olli == forum2006 ?? Sep 19 21:33:50 yep Sep 19 21:34:03 olli * r8850 /packages/net/wol/files/ (wol.config wol.init): wol: cosmetic changes Sep 19 21:34:35 oki Sep 19 21:39:03 nbd: should i start to put the packages into submenus or not? think it'll be fine with the feeds as well Sep 19 21:39:41 i don't know yet. please propose a new structure and send your proposal to the -devel mailing list Sep 19 21:39:55 ok Sep 19 22:58:16 nbd: how jffs2 summary works? Sep 19 22:58:26 you have to save some info when unmounting? Sep 19 22:59:49 i guess we never umount the MTD Sep 19 23:00:06 we poweroff, flash and reboot often Sep 19 23:02:00 or you did sumtool just after image creation to speed up first boot? Sep 19 23:29:45 matteo * r8851 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/files/drivers/net/cpmac.c: style cleanups (make checkpatch.pl happy) Sep 19 23:52:31 never seen this before: http://pastebin.ca/703996 Sep 20 00:23:24 anyone else see this: /usr/bin/updatedd: can't resolve symbol 'vs_warn' Sep 20 00:24:39 rwhitby: no Sep 20 00:25:09 (and i played around with in some days ago because it didn't noticed it's own modules) Sep 20 00:25:53 I'm running updatedd 2.6-5 and updatedd-mod-zoneedit 2.6-5 Sep 20 02:24:15 ejka * r8852 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/files/arch/mips/ar7/vlynq.c: use set_irq_chip_and_handler (#2408) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:41:57 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:42:11 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:44:12 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:44:35 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:59:57 2007