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Nov 22 11:48:40 <alxhh> moin
Nov 22 11:52:45 <glp> da man
Nov 22 15:26:51 <ggp81> https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/2739
Nov 22 15:26:56 <ggp81> take a look here :)
Nov 22 19:01:41 <witchdoc> re
Nov 22 19:56:50 <CIA-24> florian * r9590 /packages/net/ (shorewall-common/Makefile shorewall-shell/Makefile): Upgrade shorewall to 4.0.5
Nov 22 20:13:54 <Bartman007> [florian]/nbd: are you building with OS X on a regular basis? r8362 broke tools/sstrip (and other things) for me.
Nov 22 20:22:56 <Bartman007> specificly, sstrip has elf.h in tools/sstrip/include/ instead of tools/include/ so it doesn't get copied to staging_dir/host/include  previous to r8362 there was a Darwin specific include in the sstrip Makefile, CFLAGS+= -I./include
Nov 22 20:24:58 <Bartman007> which would be preferred, moving elf.h into tools/include/ or readding the include in the sstrip makefile?
Nov 22 21:24:04 <[florian]> Bartman007: hi
Nov 22 21:24:15 <[florian]> Bartman007: I did not build recently but will have a try this weekend
Nov 22 21:44:35 <Bartman007> [florian]: btw, git bisect made fixing it a breeze.  was able to figure out which commit (of the 2210 since I last built) broke it in under 10 minutes.
Nov 22 21:45:24 <Bartman007> I've run into a few more issues and am tracking them down to figure out which are Leopard's fault and which aren't.
Nov 22 21:46:06 <Bartman007> got a Intel Leopard (10.5), Intel Tiger (10.4) and PPC Tiger (10.4) churning away.
Nov 22 22:21:31 <matteo> i wonder why apple make leopard 32 bit
Nov 22 22:21:45 <Bartman007> matteo: it's 32 and 64 bit.
Nov 22 22:22:07 <matteo> the kernel and the programs are 32 bit
Nov 22 22:22:13 <matteo> just some libraries are 64
Nov 22 22:22:51 <matteo> 64 bit is just "64 bit support"
Nov 22 22:22:57 <matteo> all the system is 32 bit
Nov 22 22:22:59 <matteo> how lame
Nov 22 22:23:19 <matteo> first AMD64 CPU was seen in 2003
Nov 22 22:23:34 <matteo> even Microsoft did a 64 bit OS
Nov 22 22:26:56 <Bartman007> matteo: hah, wow. I hadn't noticed.
Nov 22 22:27:12 <Bartman007> Darwin hybrid.lan 9.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.0.0: Tue Oct  9 21:35:55 PDT 2007; root:xnu-1228~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
Nov 22 22:27:15 <Bartman007> doh!
Nov 22 22:27:30 <matteo> cool, isn't it?
Nov 22 22:27:39 <matteo> Apple 64 bit was just market
Nov 22 22:27:42 <Bartman007> sure...
Nov 22 22:27:51 <matteo> they have 64 bit libc
Nov 22 22:27:59 <matteo> so 64 bit programs "can run"
Nov 22 22:28:02 <matteo> how lame
Nov 22 22:28:10 <Bartman007> matteo: honestly I probably wouldn't mind if the I/O scheduler wasn't as bad as it is.
Nov 22 22:28:29 <matteo> dunno about mac performances
Nov 22 22:28:49 <matteo> i have a mac here but with linux on it
Nov 22 22:28:55 <matteo> I just like the light keyboard
Nov 22 22:29:15 <Bartman007> matteo: I can cripple this machine by performing any heavy I/O task.
Nov 22 22:29:43 <matteo> like?
Nov 22 22:29:48 <matteo> tar?
Nov 22 22:29:52 <Bartman007> matteo: yeah.
Nov 22 22:30:20 <Bartman007> the UI stops responding.
Nov 22 22:31:34 <Bartman007> it can't even play an mp3 without a few pauses if I'm doing something like untaring a kernel release.
Nov 22 22:32:35 <matteo> what machine?
Nov 22 22:32:39 <matteo> mine is a core 2 duo
Nov 22 22:33:01 <Bartman007> 2.4ghz C2D MacBook Pro (Santa Rosa)
Nov 22 22:33:10 <matteo> ah
Nov 22 22:33:14 <matteo> mine was the prev one
Nov 22 22:33:17 <matteo> non santa rosa
Nov 22 22:33:24 <matteo> i945
Nov 22 22:34:02 <Bartman007> I like the machine, and OS X does have enough things to keep me using it, but I wish I could throw the XNU kernel out the window and use *anything* else instead.
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