**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 06 02:59:57 2009 Mar 06 03:01:40 how to generate the config-2.6.x file under target/linux/board, it's a partial kernel config, how to create it initially? Mar 06 03:03:04 manually Mar 06 03:06:22 ok....i'm using the whole config, hope kernel_config will correct the original full .config Mar 06 03:06:31 kernel_menuconfig Mar 06 03:08:17 it's using openwrt that i realized intel core2duo is not fast enough, nothing beats openwrt to stress its cpu Mar 06 03:16:01 you mean to build it? yeah Mar 06 03:16:15 use "make -j3" btw Mar 06 03:16:38 otherwise, the build will only use one core Mar 06 03:17:31 i always forgot t oadd -jN :( Mar 06 03:17:35 if you want to have fun, `make -j' Mar 06 03:18:17 (for those who don't know, -j without an integer argument spawns as many parallel jobs as it possibly can Mar 06 03:18:41 didn't know that Mar 06 03:20:03 Bartman007: you want to absolutely hang my firefox hog... Mar 06 03:20:11 https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/4603 Mar 06 03:20:48 i ask openwrt developer please add 64-bit mips toolchain...need it for a cavium 64bit 80211n router(dlink 2590) Mar 06 03:21:26 xxiao_: it is already planned, I have an octeon here destined for Kaloz. Mar 06 03:21:40 wow, great news! Mar 06 03:22:06 i'm using octeon CN3005 Mar 06 03:22:31 64-bit kernel at 2.6.16, rootfs is said to be ok with 32-bit stuff Mar 06 03:23:14 cavium engineers told me 4.3.2 should work out of the box, binutils 2.19.1 should just work Mar 06 03:23:43 that is, if you don't use those cavium-specific instructions, which will be at 4.4.4 gcc Mar 06 03:24:25 Kaloz: ping Mar 06 03:24:58 it's early morning for kaloz right? :( Mar 06 03:27:51 yep Mar 06 03:30:32 Bartman007: cavium sent out some patches to 2.6.29, but ethernet is not included, and will not be for a while, i only have binary ethernet driver, which is one reason i stick to 2.6.16 Mar 06 03:31:18 2.6.16 will not be commited to svn. Mar 06 03:32:16 especially a binary Mar 06 03:33:17 yeah, that's what I meant :) Mar 06 03:33:40 cavium engineer did say they're willing to send out ethernet driver, but at a very low priority for now Mar 06 03:34:00 i don't get it, cavium is about network, and they keep ethernet a low priority, what the...! Mar 06 03:34:28 and their SDK/NDA is _expensive_ Mar 06 03:35:00 Bartman007: how goes it? Mar 06 03:36:28 xxiao_: they've got plenty of customers that are quite happy with what ever cavium gives them, I'm impressed cavium is pushing anything mainline Mar 06 03:37:01 RoundSparrow: research papers and midterms are stealing most of my time. Mar 06 03:37:37 http://mibbit.com/pb/fWGo1o ABI not compatible Mar 06 03:39:56 it seems 'make distclean' is the cleanest Mar 06 03:43:25 miguel.gaio added the mips64 toolchain stuff...miguel are you here? Mar 06 04:00:25 florian * r14756 /trunk/package/e2fsprogs/Makefile: [package] package blkid out of e2fsprogs (#4720) Mar 06 06:40:47 xxiao: the sibyte target already does 64bit kernel+32bit userland Mar 06 09:17:45 <[florian]> xxiao: I am also porting to cavium octeon, shall we coordinate ? Mar 06 09:20:14 <[florian]> xxiao: you also need gcc-4.4 to fully benefit from octeon support Mar 06 09:45:14 [florian], I think someome finger oointed at you yesterday, about a problem I have building openssl (arm) -- did you read the back channel ? are you the wrong person ? :D Mar 06 09:59:27 <[florian]> BusError: I did not read back the channel, open a ticket please Mar 06 10:26:47 juhosg * r14757 /trunk/package/mac80211/ (12 files in 2 dirs): [package] mac80211: update compat-wireless to 2009-03-05, add more rt2x00 and ath9k patches Mar 06 12:59:52 jow * r14758 /packages/libs/polarssl/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [packages] add polarssl package, official successor of xyssl (#4736) Mar 06 13:46:16 jow * r14759 /packages/libs/xyssl/: [packages] remove xyssl package, it's discontinued upstream and replaced by polarssl Mar 06 14:40:27 florian: ping Mar 06 14:43:03 florian: yes let's co-ordinate on cavium devel, I'm using a CN3005, gcc4.3.3 should work, but as you said, only gcc4.4.4 can fully use the silicon Mar 06 14:44:42 Kaloz: you mentioned sibyte is 64-bit kernel + 32bit rootfs, is it in openwrt already Mar 06 14:48:04 could not locate it. i'm also wonder what's the pros&cons on 32bit/64bit rootfs, the kernel has to be 64 bit Mar 06 14:57:27 xxiao: target/linux/sibyte Mar 06 14:57:29 bbl Mar 06 15:02:38 i did not find any mips64 in openwrt though, how is sibyte kernel compiled as 64bit? i used miguel's 64-bit patch and the toolchain looks good Mar 06 15:04:23 sibyte's Makefile: FEATURES:=broken guess that's why i failed to find it under menuconfig Mar 06 15:47:35 juhosg: On latest build, from a Atheros 802.11n Apple Macbook running OS X, ping times are still erratic. Ping directly to router IP. min/avg/max 0.715/28.306/316.148 Mar 06 15:47:59 (this is with no traffic on channel or router) Mar 06 15:50:15 juhosg: in AP mode at 54Mbps I am now able to reach 2.1MB/s WAN to LAN copy with wpa2 - but it is erratic and a 100MB file ends up avering only 1.1MB/s or so (same OS X client) Mar 06 15:50:41 juhosg: So i conclude we still have something not yet right on these chips Mar 06 15:53:47 juhosg: On latest build, from a Atheros 802.11n Apple Macbook running OS X, ping times are still erratic. Ping directly to router IP. min/avg/max 0.715/28.306/316.148 ( this is with no traffic on channel or router) Mar 06 15:53:55 juhosg: in AP mode at 54Mbps I am now able to reach 2.1MB/s WAN to LAN copy with wpa2 - but it is erratic and a 100MB file ends up avering only 1.1MB/s or so (same OS X client) Mar 06 15:54:02 juhosg: So i conclude we still have something not yet right on these chips Mar 06 15:54:17 juhosg: great work, but we need these Atheros employees to dust off an AP81 ;) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 06 16:41:29 2009 Mar 06 19:21:07 RoundSparrow: i'm unable to reproduce this erratic ping stuff Mar 06 19:21:15 RoundSparrow: i have tested it on the MZK-W04NU and on the TL-WR941 Mar 06 19:25:31 juhosg: you're the first one in europe just wake up :) Mar 06 19:25:44 when europe sleeps, it's quiet here Mar 06 19:25:57 :P Mar 06 19:26:02 they are not sleeping man Mar 06 19:26:06 they are away already Mar 06 19:26:07 oops Mar 06 19:26:16 actually awake still Mar 06 19:26:19 i meant something tonight Mar 06 19:26:23 :( :( Mar 06 19:26:25 ohh Mar 06 19:26:48 i'm _over-worked_...this testifies it Mar 06 19:26:55 :) Mar 06 19:29:03 juhosg: got 64-bit mips toolchain compiled with miguel's patch, working on cavium kernel 2.6.16 now Mar 06 19:31:22 xxiao: nice Mar 06 19:33:00 hi Mar 06 19:33:07 hi Mar 06 19:33:19 with svn up for 8.09 i now got a new certificate warning Mar 06 19:33:24 https://svn.openwrt.org Mar 06 19:33:27 should i worry ? Mar 06 19:34:25 svn.openwrt.org is in hungary, correct? Mar 06 19:35:09 aroscha: svn.openwrt.org is not your bank in usa, don't worry, just accept it, that's what i do Mar 06 19:35:54 xxia: i am from europe btw ;-) Mar 06 19:40:00 aroscha: it does not matter where you're, anyway i never had concern with the certificate. besides hungary has the best developers Mar 06 19:40:47 xxiao: i know, i live next to hungary... so, does not matter...i just wanted to ask if someone changed the certificates since that was new Mar 06 19:40:52 always good to cross check Mar 06 20:27:17 lars * r14760 /packages/ (47 files in 32 dirs): Mar 06 20:27:17 Update python to 2.6.1. Mar 06 20:27:17 Get rid of the virtual python-core package and instead python depends on Mar 06 20:27:17 python-mini and provides files missing in python-mini for a full featured python Mar 06 20:27:17 installation. Mar 06 20:27:18 Thus also update the dependencies of various python packages. Mar 06 20:43:50 mirko * r14761 /feeds/phone/gsm0710muxd/Makefile: some minor cleanups... Mar 06 20:46:20 lars * r14762 /feeds/efl/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Update python dependencies. Mar 06 20:47:46 lars * r14763 /feeds/phone/ (fso/Makefile paroli/Makefile): Update python dependencies. Mar 06 20:58:24 lars * r14764 /packages/Xorg/lib/pixman/Makefile: Update pixman to 0.14 Mar 06 21:00:54 lars * r14765 /packages/Xorg/xorg/app/fontconfig/Makefile: Update fontconfig to 2.6.0 Mar 06 21:12:16 mirko * r14766 /trunk/target/linux/s3c24xx/Makefile: prepare target for use with EABI Mar 06 21:23:39 lars * r14767 /trunk/target/linux/s3c24xx/patches-2.6.28/005-dont-suspend-regulator.patch: Do not suspend the regulator. Mar 06 21:25:44 lars * r14768 /trunk/target/linux/s3c24xx/patches-2.6.28/010-preserve-resolution.patch: Switch back to the previous set resolution when unblanking the screen. Mar 06 23:46:17 Anyone know how to enable string matching in iptables? (--algo kmp) Mar 07 00:23:45 so Mar 07 00:24:13 do you guys have a topsecret way of figuring out what modules need to be packaged Mar 07 01:19:56 yes Mar 07 01:20:35 cause i need to know Mar 07 01:21:27 the normal read menuconfig help and compare to another system isn't working Mar 07 01:22:00 well if i tell you it wouldn't be top secret anymore ;) Mar 07 01:23:45 if you don't tell me i'll never fix openswan Mar 07 01:26:25 even though if somebody else tells you? Mar 07 01:29:18 well, target/linux/board/config-2.6.x contains portion of the kernel .config, where is the rest of it? Mar 07 01:30:19 target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.x Mar 07 01:33:32 thanks...i would expect generic-2.6 contains common kernel code and patches to all boards, the target/linux contains only board-specific files and configs, correct? Mar 07 01:35:40 usually, yes Mar 07 01:36:43 i'm having a hard time to split a kernel into these two places, don't know what to follow basically. Mar 07 01:37:00 also, how to split the config-2.6.28 at two places, manually edit(copy & paste)? Mar 07 01:37:08 probably Mar 07 01:37:24 target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.x gets applied to all images Mar 07 01:37:44 target/linux/board/config-2.6.x is shit you need for your specific hardware Mar 07 01:37:58 generic-2.6/config-2.6.28 + target/linux/myboard/config-2.6.28 = full-2.6.28-kernel-config? Mar 07 01:38:31 yeah Mar 07 01:39:01 target/linux/myboard/config-2.6.28 layers ontop of generic-2.6/config-2.6.28 Mar 07 01:39:32 can't believe i have to check Config.in and manually cut&paste them into two config files Mar 07 01:39:55 so i believe target/linux/myboard/config-2.6.28 can override generic-2.6/config-2.6.28 Mar 07 01:40:00 need 10 cups of coffee to do that Mar 07 01:40:25 xxiao: i would think you could diff yout working config agaist the default one Mar 07 01:40:33 and add the changes to target/linux/myboard/config-2.6.28 Mar 07 01:40:35 or something Mar 07 01:40:52 you should need to make 500 lines worth of changes Mar 07 01:40:57 shouldn't Mar 07 01:41:32 thanks. mine is 2.6.16 due to binary ethernet drivers, a cavium box Mar 07 01:41:33 xxiao: you dont have to split your config Mar 07 01:42:02 larsc: what do you mean? Mar 07 01:42:37 get a full config for generic, then overlay board's config on top of it? Mar 07 01:46:42 well, if your board is the only target for 2.6.16 you just shouldn't care about a generic config Mar 07 01:47:30 larsc: not sure if the 'make world' will mandate a generic-2.6 inclusion Mar 07 01:47:57 otherwise you're right, i can put everything under target/linux/board Mar 07 01:49:50 to get things booted up first **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 07 02:59:57 2009