**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 08 02:59:58 2009
Oct 08 03:43:11 <Weedy> can i flash a stock firmware bin with mtd?
Oct 08 08:06:30 <CIA-36> florian * r17988 /packages/utils/hdparm/Makefile: [package] update hdparm to 9.27 (#5965)
Oct 08 08:36:18 <Lalloso> why is not possible to build openwrt as root user?
Oct 08 08:42:18 <xMff> because it is dangerous
Oct 08 08:43:13 <xMff> for example if a Makefile is broken and tries to remove stuff in /usr etc. you have a problem
Oct 08 08:43:19 <Lalloso> okay
Oct 08 08:43:40 <Lalloso> but i like to take dangers :)
Oct 08 08:44:06 <xMff> OpenWrt not, therefore it is forbidden ;)
Oct 08 08:44:31 <Lalloso> so should I chown -R developer:users openwrt-trunk  ?
Oct 08 08:44:50 <Lalloso> {Nico} has been so kind to provide a freeswitch package for openwrt
Oct 08 08:44:55 <Lalloso> i would like to try it
Oct 08 08:45:04 <Lalloso> i've seen the binary is in usr/bin
Oct 08 08:45:13 <Lalloso> but where all the conf etc... has gone?
Oct 08 08:47:21 <danage> i doubt rooting would help you
Oct 08 08:47:32 <Lalloso> chrooting you mean?
Oct 08 08:48:46 <danage> anything that has root in it :P
Oct 08 08:48:59 <Lalloso> lol
Oct 08 08:50:45 <Lalloso> usually where configuration files of the packages go?
Oct 08 09:09:49 <CIA-36> florian * r17989 /trunk/target/linux/uml/patches/003-memcpy_x86_64_fix.patch: [uml] remove the mempcy patch, fixes build failures on most x86_64 hosts
Oct 08 09:12:35 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17990 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.31: add more Kconfig symbols to the generic 2.6.31 config
Oct 08 09:13:16 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17991 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/patches-2.6.31/ (2 files): resync 2.6.31 patches
Oct 08 09:34:38 <CIA-36> florian * r17992 /packages/ipv6/radvd/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [package] update radvd to 1.5, select kmod-ipv6 (#5966)
Oct 08 09:39:17 <Lalloso> ipset administration utility is a necessary package or can i remove it?
Oct 08 09:40:30 <[florian]> you can remove it
Oct 08 09:40:39 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17993 /trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): enable ATA_SFF (PATA support) in the generic configs
Oct 08 09:42:18 <Lalloso> okay thx
Oct 08 09:47:15 <Lalloso> is sdcc cross compiler a package to be installed on the host system prior to make?
Oct 08 09:47:25 <Lalloso> maybe i should not have done update -a and install -a :-\
Oct 08 09:48:15 <[florian]> not you definitively should not have
Oct 08 09:49:58 <Lalloso> it's okay to do update -a and not install -a?
Oct 08 09:50:08 <Lalloso> maybe just update -a and then install only the wanted things?
Oct 08 09:50:41 <[florian]> yes, that's how you should proceed
Oct 08 09:51:15 <Lalloso> good to know
Oct 08 10:04:24 <Lalloso> so i update-a
Oct 08 10:04:52 <Lalloso> how do update, install relate with what appear in make menuconfig?
Oct 08 10:42:03 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17994 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.30: add missing symbol
Oct 08 10:42:44 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17995 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.31: and another missing Kconfig symbol..
Oct 08 10:43:46 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17996 /trunk/target/linux/ixp4xx/patches-2.6.30/312-ixp4xx_pata_optimization.patch: fix the IXP4xx CF driver patch for 2.6.30
Oct 08 10:46:28 <CIA-36> kaloz * r17997 /trunk/target/linux/ixp4xx/ (24 files in 2 dirs): add preliminary 2.6.31 support for IXP4xx
Oct 08 11:13:03 <CIA-36> juhosg * r17998 /trunk/target/linux/adm5120/ (4 files in 2 dirs): adm5120: sync kernel config
Oct 08 11:13:06 <CIA-36> juhosg * r17999 /trunk/target/linux/adm5120/Makefile: adm5120: switch to 2.6.30
Oct 08 11:13:20 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18000 /trunk/target/linux/adm5120/ (22 files in 3 dirs): adm5120: add preliminary support for 2.6.31
Oct 08 12:11:34 <CIA-36> florian * r18001 /trunk/package/madwifi/Makefile: [package] we cannot build madwifi for octeon since there is no mips64r2 hal target
Oct 08 12:50:01 <CIA-36> nico * r18002 /trunk/target/linux/ppc40x/Makefile: [target] ppc40x: don't force usb feature
Oct 08 13:41:35 <Lalloso> _trine: i've spoken to {Nico} he's refining our freeswitch package
Oct 08 13:41:50 <_trine> oh very good
Oct 08 13:42:03 <_trine> i have just configured another WRT160NL
Oct 08 13:42:27 <_trine> so I will look forward to that
Oct 08 13:59:56 <{Nico}> Lalloso, _trine: i'm moving to a fully modular freeswitch  package
Oct 08 14:00:35 <{Nico}> do you have ideas what should a "default" freeswitch install (which modules, configs, directories...)?
Oct 08 14:01:07 <Lalloso> yes
Oct 08 14:01:08 <Lalloso> i have
Oct 08 14:01:30 <Lalloso> concerning the directories i think they are the same anyway
Oct 08 14:01:41 <dilruacs> zrtp would be nice if packaged seperately
Oct 08 14:01:48 <Lalloso> i like to put everything under a single directory
Oct 08 14:02:00 <{Nico}> here's what i have right now: http://openwrt.pastebin.com/m57072c8f
Oct 08 14:02:07 <Lalloso> also mikej of #freeswitch could provide you valuable info
Oct 08 14:02:40 <{Nico}> yeah, i pointed me to a RPM package
Oct 08 14:02:57 <Lalloso> well
Oct 08 14:03:03 <Lalloso> that's even more than enough to me
Oct 08 14:03:03 <{Nico}> but i think we should be more restrictive on default features
Oct 08 14:03:10 <Lalloso> i agree with you
Oct 08 14:03:21 <Lalloso> that's more than enough concerning the enabled modules by default
Oct 08 14:03:25 <{Nico}> let me know if i can remove some
Oct 08 14:03:38 <Lalloso> i would disable mod-cdr-csv
Oct 08 14:03:44 <Lalloso> and mod-xml-cdr
Oct 08 14:03:57 <Lalloso> i doubt that on openwrt hardware someone would need to keep call data records
Oct 08 14:04:10 <{Nico}> okie
Oct 08 14:04:29 <{Nico}> they could be added later anyway
Oct 08 14:04:36 <Lalloso> yes
Oct 08 14:04:41 <Lalloso> i'm interested
Oct 08 14:04:44 <dilruacs> "mod-rss"? sounds like a "nice-to-have" instead of "must-have"
Oct 08 14:04:47 <Lalloso> how is this thing controllable?
Oct 08 14:04:54 <Lalloso> mod_rss is not necessary
Oct 08 14:05:05 <{Nico}> you'll have:
Oct 08 14:05:24 <{Nico}> a freeswitch package with main daemon and lib
Oct 08 14:05:39 <Lalloso> this page
Oct 08 14:05:40 <Lalloso> http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Modules#Dialplan
Oct 08 14:05:47 <{Nico}> a freeswitch module package for each (buildable) module
Oct 08 14:05:47 <Lalloso> could be useful to you for a brief description of each modules
Oct 08 14:05:59 <Lalloso> ah i see
Oct 08 14:06:02 <Lalloso> wonderful
Oct 08 14:06:14 <{Nico}> and freeswitch-default package with config and selected set of modules
Oct 08 14:06:16 <Lalloso> i thought most of those modules would not compile due to dependecy issues
Oct 08 14:06:21 <Lalloso> okay
Oct 08 14:06:26 <Lalloso> so if this is the way to go
Oct 08 14:06:35 <Lalloso> it's really better to strip the default down to a minimum
Oct 08 14:06:39 <Lalloso> do you agree?
Oct 08 14:06:49 <{Nico}> and then you can add modules to your default install
Oct 08 14:07:07 <{Nico}> or cram a complete new one with your own custom config & modules list
Oct 08 14:07:25 <{Nico}> i agree
Oct 08 14:07:27 <Lalloso> what do you mean with the last sentence?
Oct 08 14:08:08 <Lalloso> to run it you don't need ANY mods... tongue  But for basics you'll want mod_commands, mod_dptools, mod_sofia and mod_console I suspect.
Oct 08 14:08:16 <Lalloso> from https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=88077
Oct 08 14:08:21 <{Nico}> we can add later other freeswitch-* packages for different setups
Oct 08 14:08:24 <Lalloso> mod_conference for sure can be taken off by default
Oct 08 14:08:28 <Lalloso> ah okay
Oct 08 14:09:08 <Lalloso> mod_dialplan_xml i would keep it
Oct 08 14:09:15 <Lalloso> dptools i would keep it
Oct 08 14:09:21 <Lalloso> enum i would drop it
Oct 08 14:09:28 <Lalloso> event-socket i would drop it
Oct 08 14:09:59 <Lalloso> then i would drop all your list on the pastebin up to mod-sofia
Oct 08 14:10:17 <{Nico}> -fifo to -sofia?
Oct 08 14:10:38 <Lalloso> well it's better to say what to keep than what to drop
Oct 08 14:10:43 <Lalloso> i will pastebin what i would keep
Oct 08 14:10:49 <{Nico}> okie
Oct 08 14:13:33 <Lalloso> http://openwrt.pastebin.com/d19da5dd2
Oct 08 14:13:40 <Lalloso> i would start with this
Oct 08 14:13:45 <Lalloso> i think this is a good tradeoff
Oct 08 14:13:52 <Lalloso> if we strip it down further
Oct 08 14:14:06 <Lalloso> someone could blame us because he needs at least a voipcodec
Oct 08 14:14:28 <Lalloso> if we include anything else someone could blame because we waste precious space on his flash
Oct 08 14:14:42 <Lalloso> keep in mind however that enabling a module at compile time
Oct 08 14:15:15 <dilruacs> Lalloso: would that selection mean a minimal working pbx with alaw, ulaw and SIP?
Oct 08 14:15:25 <Lalloso> I think so
Oct 08 14:16:17 <Lalloso> also keep in mind that enable a module at compile time with freeswitch
Oct 08 14:16:29 <Lalloso> means that for sure the space on the filesystem is wasted
Oct 08 14:16:48 <Lalloso> but one could also load/unload modules when starting freeswitch
Oct 08 14:16:50 <Lalloso> and even at runtime
Oct 08 14:17:08 <Lalloso> so only the really needed set of features could be loaded into ram
Oct 08 14:17:21 <Lalloso> almost the same as with kernel modules
Oct 08 14:18:42 <Lalloso> mmm maybe we could have a package freeswitch-complete with every module?
Oct 08 14:19:27 <{Nico}> i'll keep freeswitch-default and call yours freeswitch-minimal
Oct 08 14:20:06 <{Nico}> do you know what config files would be needed for this "minimal" config
Oct 08 14:21:08 <Lalloso> yes
Oct 08 14:21:12 <Lalloso> well
Oct 08 14:21:34 <Lalloso> you should compile freeswitch on a x86 environment
Oct 08 14:21:42 <Lalloso> and have a look at the filesystem for a few minutes
Oct 08 14:21:50 <Lalloso> the conf directory is where everything is plaed
Oct 08 14:21:52 <Lalloso> placed
Oct 08 14:22:50 <Lalloso> look at freeswitch/conf/autoload_configs
Oct 08 14:23:07 <{Nico}> yeah, but very crowded dir
Oct 08 14:23:12 <Lalloso> well
Oct 08 14:23:17 <Lalloso> yes
Oct 08 14:23:19 <{Nico}> not sure we need everything there
Oct 08 14:23:24 <Lalloso> no we don't
Oct 08 14:24:12 <Lalloso> you know what
Oct 08 14:24:24 <Lalloso> first thing is to disable enable modules to load at startup
Oct 08 14:24:38 <Lalloso> in modules.conf.xml
Oct 08 14:25:00 <Lalloso> not every module is compiled so this must include only the smallest set of module
Oct 08 14:25:24 <Lalloso> the best thing to do is to compile freeswitch with the smallet set of modules on x86 and see what's get included in the dir
Oct 08 14:25:44 <Lalloso> but we'll have to do this thing with multiple iterations we can't just do this right first time :-)
Oct 08 14:46:54 <{Nico}> Lalloso: i have to go now
Oct 08 14:47:03 <{Nico}> ++
Oct 08 14:48:56 <Weedy> god damn it
Oct 08 14:49:30 <Weedy> i had to flash tew-652brp back to stock firmware to get a dhcp lease on the wan
Oct 08 14:51:28 <Lalloso> okay we'll keep on the next days
Oct 08 16:48:30 <netprince> is ices (sends mp3 to icecast) ported, or is there something else to use?
Oct 08 16:50:02 <xMff> hmm, I made a package a while ago ... http://ffx.subsignal.org/trac/browser/packages/ices
Oct 08 16:50:18 <xMff> still needs some fine tuning but should compile at least
Oct 08 16:50:42 <netprince> nice, will save me some time I'm sure
Oct 08 16:51:18 <xMff> there's also ezstream http://ffx.subsignal.org/trac/browser/packages/ezstream
Oct 08 16:52:05 <xMff> I have no real clue about that tools, just helped a friend to cross compile them so your mileage may vary
Oct 08 16:52:34 <netprince> interesting, thanks.
Oct 08 17:08:51 <Kaloz> netprince: hey, what's broken on the 160nl for you?
Oct 08 17:09:17 <netprince> I dont have a 160nl :)  I was last tinkering with the 400n
Oct 08 17:09:34 <Kaloz> ah, ok :)
Oct 08 17:09:52 <Kaloz> and how's that? :)
Oct 08 17:10:34 <netprince> it boots fine, ethernet and routing mostly working, no wireless support from what I can tell
Oct 08 17:10:52 <netprince> sometimes the switch goes crazy and I have to power cycle it, so not quite 100%
Oct 08 17:12:13 <Kaloz> well, linksys doesn't plan to sell it in the eu for hell knows why
Oct 08 17:13:03 <netprince> if you'd like to try it, I can send it to you, I need it back when your done though
Oct 08 17:13:19 <netprince> its sitting on the shelf right now
Oct 08 17:15:50 <netprince> its got a audio jack serial port too
Oct 08 17:18:29 <Kaloz> well, probably postage would be more then the unit itself :)
Oct 08 17:19:05 <CIA-36> florian * r18003 /trunk/target/linux/octeon/config-default: [octeon] resync kernel configuration
Oct 08 17:19:27 <netprince> I think it was like $25 USD last time I sent you something, coming back might be different though
Oct 08 17:20:16 <netprince> I'll prolly just let it rest until ath9k starts detecting the radios.
Oct 08 17:20:23 <Kaloz> sending it back alone is more then the price of the unit :) we have a really fucked up price/service ration :)
Oct 08 17:24:00 <CIA-36> florian * r18004 /trunk/target/linux/octeon/ (config-default patches/016-octeon_hw_rng.patch): [octeon] add support for the hardware random number generator
Oct 08 17:25:28 <netprince> xMff: do you know of a mixer utility ported?
Oct 08 17:25:47 <xMff> like alsamixer?
Oct 08 17:27:30 <netprince> sure, I'll check it, I was just using OSS so far though...
Oct 08 17:28:16 <xMff> hm, isn't some mixer included in alsa-utils?
Oct 08 17:29:39 <netprince> I haven't looked yet, will look there later today, thanks
Oct 08 17:38:17 <swalker> current openwrt/upstream, http://pastehtml.com/view/091008tKxmSKbw.html
Oct 08 17:52:34 <CIA-36> florian * r18005 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.30: [kernel] add more missing USB related configuration symbols to 2.6.30
Oct 08 17:56:33 <CIA-36> florian * r18006 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [octeon] add support for the dwc_otg USB controller
Oct 08 18:34:47 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18007 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/patches-2.6.31/065-rootfs_split.patch: kernel: fix automatic rootfs partition selection on 2.6.31
Oct 08 18:40:18 <CIA-36> blogic * r18008 /trunk/target/linux/ifxmips/files/ (18 files in 6 dirs): several cleanups for ifxmips. removes all code that has not been cleaned up properly
Oct 08 18:58:17 <CIA-36> blogic * r18009 /trunk/package/dropbear/files/ (dropbear.config dropbear.init): #4985 - fixes dropbear banner file, thanks Roman Yepishev
Oct 08 19:56:20 <swalker> anyone know why kmod-scsi-core is missing for x86 2.6.31?
Oct 08 22:24:52 <CIA-36> blogic * r18010 /trunk/target/linux/ifxmips/ (43 files in 10 dirs): ifxmips: move header files, split up patches, rename some files
Oct 08 22:34:48 <CIA-36> blogic * r18011 /trunk/target/linux/ifxmips/files/drivers/mtd/maps/ifxmips.c: flash size was reported incorrectly
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