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Nov 13 11:13:11 <russell--> hmm. i'm not seeing libipt_recent in iptables-mod-extra
Nov 13 11:15:26 <russell--> it's built
Nov 13 11:22:40 <russell--> also, xt_recent.ko doesn't appear in kmod-ipt-extra (or ??)
Nov 13 11:28:15 <nautil> hi i'm trying to do serial debug of etrax
Nov 13 11:28:30 <nautil> need i some special settings in minicom?
Nov 13 11:29:38 <russell--> probably turn of handshaking
Nov 13 11:29:42 <russell--> off
Nov 13 11:30:12 * russell-- knows nothing about etrax specifically
Nov 13 11:30:50 <nautil> russell do you know if there could be some problem using usb to serian with a null modem cable?
Nov 13 11:31:37 <russell--> are you sure you're using the right kind of serial cable?
Nov 13 11:31:50 <russell--> regular vs TTL levels?
Nov 13 11:32:24 <blogic> nautil: debug or console ?
Nov 13 11:32:39 <blogic> is it a foxboard ?
Nov 13 11:33:00 <blogic> nautil: and why null modem ?
Nov 13 11:33:06 <blogic> you need a straight cable
Nov 13 11:33:13 <blogic> null modem is a cross over
Nov 13 11:34:37 <russell--> http://www.nomad.ee/micros/etrex.shtml
Nov 13 11:34:39 <nautil> blogic, i wan to see debug because the foxboard doesn't boot after flash all leds are avtive
Nov 13 11:37:47 <blogic> debug or console ?
Nov 13 11:40:22 <nautil> blogic, debug
Nov 13 11:42:25 <blogic> did you enable kdebug ?
Nov 13 11:42:49 <blogic> nautil: is the ram setup correct int he vmlinuz image
Nov 13 11:43:01 <blogic> all leds means your ram config is incorrect
Nov 13 11:43:05 <blogic> what board is it ?
Nov 13 11:43:13 <blogic> and where does the image come from ?
Nov 13 11:43:32 <blogic> if the red leds come on, then kdebug wont help
Nov 13 11:43:45 <blogic> as your memory controller is most likely misconfigured
Nov 13 11:43:51 <nautil> blogic, etrax 100 lx 816
Nov 13 11:43:52 <blogic> the amazing vodoo of axis
Nov 13 11:44:01 <blogic> a foxboard?
Nov 13 11:44:35 <blogic> ok, sorry if you dont answer my questions i wont be able to help
Nov 13 11:44:38 <blogic> good luck anyway
Nov 13 11:44:42 <blogic> ciao a tutti :D
Nov 13 11:45:25 <nautil> blogic, which question?
Nov 13 11:46:11 <nautil> blogic, quale domanda?
Nov 13 11:48:13 <blogic> sentences ending with "?" are questions
Nov 13 11:49:46 <nautil> the board is foxboard etrax 100 lx 816
Nov 13 11:50:13 <nautil> blogic, the image is snapshot or produced by openwrt trunk
Nov 13 11:51:00 <blogic> is it setup for 8/16 ?
Nov 13 11:51:12 <blogic> and, for the 3rd time
Nov 13 11:51:16 <blogic> is it a foxboard
Nov 13 11:51:23 <blogic> ? <--- question
Nov 13 11:51:50 <nautil> blogic, i resend it again :) the board is foxboard etrax 100 lx 816
Nov 13 11:52:21 <blogic> you need to configure the kernel
Nov 13 11:52:26 <blogic> otherwise it wont boot
Nov 13 11:52:38 <blogic> acme has a howto for the config options in the wiki
Nov 13 11:53:16 <nautil> blogic, what kind of parameter? in make menuconfig?
Nov 13 11:54:24 <blogic> the memory controller
Nov 13 11:54:28 <blogic> make kernel_menuconfig
Nov 13 11:54:46 <blogic> the image has the ram config embedded inside itself
Nov 13 11:55:00 <blogic> if it is incorrect, the foxboard will not boot
Nov 13 11:55:08 <blogic> this config is different for every board
Nov 13 11:56:24 <blogic> http://foxlx.acmesystems.it/?id=833
Nov 13 11:56:32 <blogic> this page used to have the config on it
Nov 13 11:56:34 <blogic> hmmmm,
Nov 13 11:58:55 <blogic> nautil: how do you flash ?
Nov 13 11:59:05 <blogic> using etrax100boot ?
Nov 13 12:00:03 <nautil> nautil, with bootlinux -F -d eth0 -i imagename
Nov 13 12:00:14 <nautil> blogic, with bootlinux -F -d eth0 -i imagename
Nov 13 12:00:37 <blogic> that should work
Nov 13 12:00:40 <blogic> strange
Nov 13 12:00:51 <blogic> which gcc did you use to build it ?
Nov 13 12:01:06 <blogic> try building the image with 4.1.2
Nov 13 12:01:27 <nautil> blogic, ok if this could help you the old crisos image works
Nov 13 12:01:40 <blogic> ok
Nov 13 12:01:44 <blogic> let me see
Nov 13 12:01:56 <blogic> bootlinux extracts the ramconfig from the image
Nov 13 12:02:05 <blogic> try to check if the data is the same
Nov 13 12:02:17 <blogic> then you know if the image is broken or the ram config is incorrect
Nov 13 12:02:26 <blogic> i think bootlinux had a debug option
Nov 13 12:03:08 <blogic> bootlinux -p -i imagename
Nov 13 12:03:12 <blogic> i think that shows you
Nov 13 12:03:19 <blogic> run that for both images
Nov 13 12:03:26 <blogic> and show me the result please
Nov 13 12:06:23 <nautil> blogic, ok
Nov 13 12:18:27 <nautil> blogic, the output is http://pastebin.ca/1669794
Nov 13 14:13:40 <danage1> /nick danage
Nov 13 14:13:48 <danage1> fail?
Nov 13 14:14:30 <jow_laptop> ack
Nov 13 14:14:37 <danage1> rats.
Nov 13 15:58:57 <groz> [florian] ping
Nov 13 16:03:54 <[florian]> groz: pong
Nov 13 16:04:02 <groz> good morning sir
Nov 13 16:04:19 <groz> i spent a while yesterday tracking down a problem, not _completely_ finished yet
Nov 13 16:04:23 <groz> but, the executive summary
Nov 13 16:04:50 <[florian]> hey groz
Nov 13 16:04:51 <groz> block2mtd init patch that went in on your 18337 and 18338 commits, breaks startup for initramfs
Nov 13 16:05:16 <[florian]> ah, I must admit that I did not test with initramfs, so this is likely to break
Nov 13 16:05:23 <groz> i have fully confirmed that it's that patch, built a scratch checkout last nite, with the patch
Nov 13 16:05:35 <groz> and then built again , but removing the 300-xxx patch file
Nov 13 16:05:47 <groz> first one fails to find the initramfs on kernel boot
Nov 13 16:05:50 <groz> second one boots it just fine
Nov 13 16:06:03 <groz> i'm gonna track down exactly what in that patch is braking it today
Nov 13 16:06:15 <groz> i have a pretty good idea, but, i just ran outa time yesterday
Nov 13 16:06:36 <groz> that's reference an x86 build, and for this particular setup
Nov 13 16:06:57 <groz> i need the initramfs to load modules, so that I can get access to the usb jumpstick
Nov 13 16:07:34 <[florian]> ah well, if you include usb modules + rootwait, this will wait for the usb storage devices to be ready
Nov 13 16:07:41 <[florian]> that's actually what we are using with olpc
Nov 13 16:08:01 <groz> yes, but, if i dont have an initramfs, the usb modules that need to be loaded, aren't there
Nov 13 16:09:01 <[florian]> ah ok
Nov 13 16:09:09 <[florian]> well, fixing it is the way to do it anyway ;)
Nov 13 16:09:11 <groz> the way i've been doing it for a long time on this particular setup, i have minimal stuff in the initramfs
Nov 13 16:09:22 <groz> but enough to get usb storage going
Nov 13 16:09:26 <groz> then use the rootfs=
Nov 13 16:09:48 <groz> and the init file will then wait on it to become available, and pivot onto it
Nov 13 16:09:58 <groz> after loading the modules in the initramfs
Nov 13 16:10:18 <groz> but ya, if it's fixed, then, it's fixed
Nov 13 16:10:52 <[florian]> sorry for having introduced that breakage, it is still unfortunately required for squashfs images on x86
Nov 13 16:11:10 <groz> oh, no worries, i jst wanted to let you know, it broke, and, i've found where
Nov 13 16:11:20 <groz> will get the correct fix figured out today
Nov 13 16:11:40 <groz> woulda had it done yesterday, but stupid phone got stupid busy most of the day
Nov 13 16:11:57 <[florian]> no problem
Nov 13 16:12:48 <groz> I _thought_ I was gonna have a few free days here, so, got started on a little project to get a couple machines here 'updated' to run stuff in the latest greatest incantation
Nov 13 16:15:09 <groz> hehe, kind of a fun project started actually, gonna get my eee701 running as a 'camera control appliance' for my astronomy ccd stuff
Nov 13 16:15:39 <groz> and possibly my asus r2h if I can get the touchscreen on that one working
Nov 13 16:16:04 <[florian]> evil :)
Nov 13 16:16:43 <groz> the 701 is nice for that tho, has a screen, and is solid state
Nov 13 16:16:46 <groz> old and cheap
Nov 13 16:17:02 <groz> not the end of the world if it sits out at the telescopes exposed to the elements
Nov 13 16:28:05 <groz> does anybody know if the tom-tom gps stuff is still linux based
Nov 13 16:28:16 <groz> and if so, has anybody tried getting owrt running on one of those ?
Nov 13 16:28:53 <danage1> groz: i think there's tomtom for wince as well
Nov 13 16:29:30 <groz> oh, i've tried to use a wince device, and, for what I wanna do, it lacks in stability
Nov 13 16:29:55 <danage1> no i'm just saying there's tomtom soft for wince, so some of the devices may run that too
Nov 13 16:30:33 <groz> ya, i think i've seen a coule of those, but, i do remember reading long time ago, the higher end tom-tom models were linux based
Nov 13 16:30:50 <groz> just wondering if anybody has 'gone down that road', or, if it's a new road to travel ?
Nov 13 17:11:19 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18409 /trunk/target/linux/ar71xx/profiles/tp-link.mk: ar71xx: add profile for the TL-WR841ND v5 board
Nov 13 17:11:25 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18410 /trunk/tools/firmware-utils/src/mkfwimage.c:
Nov 13 17:11:25 <CIA-36> ar71xx: increase max size of RouterStation and RouterStation Pro firmware images
Nov 13 17:11:25 <CIA-36> Thanks to riskable! (closes #5860)
Nov 13 17:11:32 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18411 /trunk/target/linux/ar71xx/ (10 files in 5 dirs):
Nov 13 17:11:32 <CIA-36> ar71xx: add preliminary support for the Netgear WNDR3700
Nov 13 17:11:32 <CIA-36> Based on patches by Marco Porsch from:
Nov 13 17:11:32 <CIA-36> https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=22311
Nov 13 17:11:45 <CIA-36> juhosg * r18412 /trunk/package/mac80211/Makefile: package/mac80211: add config option to enable Atheros wireless debugging
Nov 13 20:32:50 <CIA-36> hauke * r18413 /trunk/target/linux/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
Nov 13 20:32:50 <CIA-36> [brcm47xx] fix problem with 128MB ram.
Nov 13 20:32:50 <CIA-36> This patch is out of broadcoms official source code
Nov 13 20:45:20 <mb__> Hauke1: whoa, scary :D
Nov 13 20:45:39 <Hauke1> yes
Nov 13 20:45:58 <Hauke1> but it works
Nov 13 20:45:59 <Hauke1> ;-)
Nov 13 20:46:25 <mb__> yeah, I'm OK with it. It's just, well, an interesting hardware bug ;)
Nov 13 20:48:19 <Hauke1> yes it is interesting, I have no idea why the hardware does this wrong with 128 MB of ram
Nov 13 20:48:35 <mb__> I'm not really surprised
Nov 13 20:49:02 <mb__> Note that "This patch is out of broadcoms official source code" is not equivalent to "this is good code"
Nov 13 20:49:43 <mb__> It's more like "We hit it with this sledgehammer until it gave up"
Nov 13 21:27:44 <aroscha> hi
Nov 13 21:28:08 <aroscha> who is at the Ninux meeting?
Nov 13 22:54:34 <CIA-36> nbd * r18414 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/ (5 files in 5 dirs): make fpu emulation support configurable through kernel_menuconfig by adding a prompt for it
Nov 14 02:09:36 <russell_> hmm.  this line in package/iptables/Makefile: "        for m in $(patsubst xt_%,ipt_%,$(2)) $(patsubst ipt_%,xt_%,$(2)); do \" is apparently failing to expand to include ipt_recent
Nov 14 02:20:09 <russell_> where is IPT_EXTRA-m set?
Nov 14 02:29:06 <User0443770> The .config + Makefile I think. This is similar to how the kernel selects drivers for compilation...
Nov 14 02:35:06 <CIA-36> nbd * r18415 /trunk/package/mac80211/ (14 files in 2 dirs): mac80211: update to 2009-11-13 and add some of my new performance improvement patches. fixes excessive cpu usage of hostapd in ap mode, should also fix the ath9k memleak
Nov 14 02:55:50 <CIA-36> nbd * r18416 /trunk/package/kernel/modules/netdevices.mk: e1000: add CONFIG_E1000_NAPI=y for older kernels
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