**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 02 02:59:57 2010 Aug 02 03:33:02 cshore, ping Aug 02 03:33:05 xMff, ping :) Aug 02 03:33:31 is this normal when a cable isnt connected...? Aug 02 03:33:33 b44 ssb0:1: eth1: Link is up at 100 Mbps, Aug 02 03:34:17 RealOpty: pong Aug 02 03:35:37 cshore, plz give me command (uci) to set macc addr for lan Aug 02 03:35:55 to the /etc/config/network Aug 02 03:39:19 mm plz Aug 02 03:43:17 uci set network.lan.macaddr='00:00:00:00:00' Aug 02 03:43:17 uci commit Aug 02 03:43:23 cshore, sorry to bug ya lol. just having a hard time trying to recover the device me an hauke was working on Aug 02 03:43:53 cshore, is it the same for br-lan? Aug 02 03:44:06 br-lan is just lan Aug 02 03:44:11 kk Aug 02 03:44:21 well my stuff is all messed up lol Aug 02 03:44:23 br-lan is the interface name, lan is network (uci) name Aug 02 03:44:29 the patch only fixed 1/2 Aug 02 03:44:34 ah Aug 02 03:44:35 just enough to not brick it lol Aug 02 03:45:04 but it erased the part where the bootloader finds the mac address on the flash Aug 02 03:45:22 now the bootloader thinks the mac add is 00:FF:FF:FF:FF Aug 02 03:45:29 :FF Aug 02 03:48:06 cshore, got another minute Aug 02 03:48:06 ? Aug 02 03:48:30 sure, what's up? Aug 02 03:48:31 cshore, my vlan config was made auto. this is what it says Aug 02 03:48:40 \0x09option 'ports' '0 1 2 3 4 5u Aug 02 03:48:55 is that ;normal;? and why is there a 'u' at the end? Aug 02 03:49:56 u means untagged....basically it's using the switch as an ethernet port rather than vlan Aug 02 03:53:15 hmm maybe that explains why my wan port dont work Aug 02 03:53:26 well brb i gotta test changes. Aug 02 04:03:34 cshore, sweet Aug 02 04:04:02 by setting the mac addr in network fixed the problem. Aug 02 04:04:52 cshore, does this mean that the CFE is trying to load a image from a tftpd server? Aug 02 04:04:54 Loader:raw Filesys:tftp Dev:eth0 File:192.168.1.2:vmlinuz Options:(null) Aug 02 04:05:22 probably Aug 02 04:05:24 maybe thats why i couldnt tftp a new firmware Aug 02 04:08:00 cshore, u busy atm :)? i dont wanna nag you. Aug 02 04:08:38 I'm working away, but if I'll just ignore you if I need to Aug 02 04:09:09 :) for sure Aug 02 04:10:11 cshore, http://paste.ubuntu.com/472058/ Aug 02 04:10:16 thats my network config Aug 02 04:10:25 that was auto generated by openwrt. Aug 02 04:10:57 cshore, any suggestions on fixing the 'vlan' stuff? Aug 02 04:12:05 http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/switch Aug 02 04:19:20 well thanks but that didnt help :( Aug 02 04:19:33 im just gonna try to use my config from my other device. Aug 02 04:19:40 hmm Aug 02 04:19:58 i should actually reflash this thing some how before i break it and dont know how to recover it lol Aug 02 04:20:28 heh Aug 02 08:29:59 hello Aug 02 08:36:35 acoul, hey Aug 02 09:26:37 nbd, ping Aug 02 09:27:13 nbd, will you tell Hauke not to commit the patch for the netgear routers. Its not quite working yet. Aug 02 09:50:45 nbd, ping Aug 02 09:50:47 nbd, will you tell Hauke not to commit the patch for the netgear routers. Its not quite working yet. Aug 02 09:50:47 RealOpty: what netgear? Aug 02 09:51:01 wnr834bv2 Aug 02 09:51:23 as of yesterday it was breaking wgt634u too Aug 02 09:51:34 last working one was r22295 i think Aug 02 09:51:53 mmm this patch hasnt been commited yet Aug 02 09:51:59 and i think that bug was fixed Aug 02 09:52:35 * RealOpty can go to sleep now that ive bricked the router completely. Aug 02 09:52:48 you have serial? Aug 02 09:52:56 guess i need to get some 100 ohm resisters. Aug 02 09:53:00 russell--, yeah Aug 02 09:53:11 do you get a bootloader prompt? Aug 02 09:53:40 i did before i just overwrote the CFE by mistake. Aug 02 09:53:46 LOL Aug 02 09:53:55 * russell-- recommends not doing that Aug 02 09:53:57 btw Aug 02 09:54:13 didnt make much of a difference anyways. it was basicly in the same state Aug 02 09:54:24 because some data got overwritten on the flash Aug 02 09:54:37 i managed to get the factory firmware back on the box Aug 02 09:54:38 from CFE, on the wgt, it's a relatively simple matter to reset the values that CFE needs to boot Aug 02 09:54:57 but after that i couldnt flash anything else. Aug 02 09:56:14 russell--, heres the last command i sent it Aug 02 09:56:19 CFE> flash -noheader -offset=1ffe0000 192.168.1.2:/home/will/atftpd/fix.bin flash0 Aug 02 09:56:24 russell--: how? Aug 02 09:56:27 yeah, not good Aug 02 09:56:35 yeah Aug 02 09:56:41 on wgt, you wanted flash0.os Aug 02 09:56:54 i ment to send CFE> flash -size 10000 -noheader -offset=1ffe0000 192.168.1.2:/home/will/atftpd/fix.bin flash0.os Aug 02 09:56:55 * russell-- says without checking ... Aug 02 09:57:14 oh well Aug 02 09:57:24 at least this thing isnt bugging me any more :P Aug 02 09:57:29 and i can finally go to sleep lol Aug 02 09:57:31 you say: setenv -p var val Aug 02 09:57:49 with about 6 or 8 pairs Aug 02 09:58:05 you can check what they should be on a still working device Aug 02 09:58:49 my stupid CFE used data on the flash from its own custom partitions. Aug 02 09:58:57 that openwrt overwrote Aug 02 09:59:04 this is my little cheat sheet for wgt634u testing: http://wiki.personaltelco.net/WgtRecovery Aug 02 09:59:36 yeah, that's what's happening for me on the wgt634u Aug 02 10:00:02 broadcom-diag is not detecting the board as the right thing and doing something wrong Aug 02 10:00:12 damn Aug 02 10:00:33 fwiw, the same thing happened last year too Aug 02 10:00:34 my router uses a partition it calls 'board_data' Aug 02 10:00:48 and hauke make a patch that skipped over it Aug 02 10:00:50 and it worked Aug 02 10:00:59 8.09.1 bricked wgt634u's (iirc) Aug 02 10:01:08 but that was only 1/2 of the stuff that needed skipping over Aug 02 10:01:14 theres another partition Aug 02 10:01:22 where "bricked" == "the same behavior we are seeing here" Aug 02 10:01:37 that had the mac addr and some info about the board Aug 02 10:02:15 but i can recover with jtag :) Aug 02 10:02:37 the wgt634u's are mostly missing some resistors that would let jtag work Aug 02 10:02:50 5 0603's of various values Aug 02 10:03:02 i've got a couple that need jtag'ing Aug 02 10:03:17 at least to try to figure out what is wrong with them Aug 02 10:03:29 might not make any differene Aug 02 10:03:41 what do you use (assuming you do) for jtag hardware? Aug 02 10:04:59 i havent ever jtaged Aug 02 10:05:09 and not looking forward to it Aug 02 10:05:28 * RealOpty searches for 100 ohm resisters. Aug 02 10:05:46 i have an olimex usb-arm-ocd thing, but only tried to use it with OpenOCD on an ARM based cpu Aug 02 10:11:29 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2994586# Aug 02 10:11:33 sweet. Aug 02 10:12:06 even better, there in stock at the store.... Aug 02 10:13:01 hopefully they will have somethin thats better for connecting to the board. Aug 02 10:32:42 markus * r22462 /trunk/package/comgt/ (Makefile files/3g.sh): LED handling fixes for WRT54-G3Gv2 Aug 02 11:34:36 Hi there, I'm using Openwrt on a ubiquity picostation. How do I retain UCI values across a file system upgrade? Aug 02 13:59:08 _trine i've got my dockstar ^^ ... have the second u-boot installed and am now trying to compile openwrt for it ... Aug 02 13:59:27 did you succeed already starting openwrt completly from usb on this device? Aug 02 14:00:48 mine arrived today Aug 02 14:00:53 didn't have time to play with it yet, though Aug 02 14:03:43 I've ordered mine at atelco, so I have to wait till the 11th Aug 02 14:04:19 i got mine on misco Aug 02 14:04:21 they had it in stock Aug 02 14:05:08 well, I'm ok with it, since I don't have really time for it anyway yet ;) Aug 02 14:06:43 ah, I see. atelco offers in-store pickup, and since I am a cheapskate I thought that's the cheapest way to get one ;) Aug 02 14:08:41 i had bought on zentralversand.de ... 48 h ago :) Aug 02 14:09:24 it gets hot ... hrhr ... one feels the power of it ;) Aug 02 14:10:24 and if the upper usb port (for the 2,5" driver) would be 180° rotated ... my external hd would fit in it *grml* (there is no way to rotate it, have tried ...) Aug 02 14:21:06 <_trine> hey good news Aug 02 14:21:38 <_trine> I have a web server running on mine at the moment Aug 02 14:22:02 <_trine> http://81.109.235.209 it's just the cherokee test page Aug 02 14:22:19 <_trine> I have pogobox linux running off a pendrive Aug 02 14:23:11 <_trine> Memphiz: just use a short cable to attach your drive Aug 02 14:24:05 cool Aug 02 14:24:39 nice ... it works :( Aug 02 14:24:40 err :) Aug 02 14:24:55 <_trine> there is another channel that plays with these #plugapps Aug 02 14:25:30 <_trine> but they don't do openwrt as far as i can see Aug 02 14:26:41 yeah ... i will see how far i can get :) Aug 02 14:26:54 <_trine> I have noticed that the second boot toggles alternately between booting of th einternal nand and then off the external flash drive Aug 02 14:27:28 <_trine> second uboot that should read Aug 02 14:27:34 yes ... i've read that ... but you can circumvent this with the blparam tool ... everytime you but your usb stick it resets the value to the second bootloader Aug 02 14:28:28 <_trine> I used the blparm tool to tell it to boot a real linux then it would not boot anymore Aug 02 14:28:44 oha Aug 02 14:28:49 <_trine> so i had to attach my serial cable and alter the value back again Aug 02 14:28:52 and you had have to debrick with serial? Aug 02 14:28:55 mhh Aug 02 14:28:56 strange Aug 02 14:29:06 i wanted to go that way ... because the toggling is stupid Aug 02 14:34:52 <_trine> Memphiz: there is no reason why if you wanted to that you could not make another hole in the front of the dockstar and position the small usb connector there Aug 02 14:35:12 <_trine> I have just had a look inside mine Aug 02 14:35:31 <_trine> but a cable is probably better Aug 02 15:12:54 <_trine> Memphiz: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24479163-Other-Own-a-FreeSwitch-on-a-Seagate-DockStar-for-2499~start=60 Aug 02 15:15:40 *click* Aug 02 15:17:21 _trine, site doesn't open here :/ Aug 02 15:17:52 <_trine> http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1564120~8f816487a3d6387e5863ab46feff590a/openwrt-kirkwood-rootfs.tar.bz2 Aug 02 15:18:27 what is this? Aug 02 15:19:02 <_trine> hang on sorry Aug 02 15:20:09 <_trine> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24479163-Other-Own-a-FreeSwitch-on-a-Seagate-DockStar-for-2499~start=60 Aug 02 15:20:13 <_trine> try that Aug 02 15:26:02 thx Aug 02 15:39:49 has anyone tried to make a wireless to 3G gateway using openwrt? Aug 02 15:40:14 i mean, using a 3g usb stick to provide wireless to a bunch of clients Aug 02 15:40:45 on a board similar to the Fonera 2.0 Aug 02 15:52:47 lfcorreia: should be straightforward Aug 02 15:53:40 jow_laptop: thanks, but I just found out that my board has in fact an USB port, but no driver on openwrt that enables it... gotta bug someone about this Aug 02 16:01:54 _trine: i got it working by myself nearly ... it boots off of my 40gb 2,5" hd (which fits on the original socket, after i cut the case a bit *yeah*). and i can see that it just boots fine ... it also brings up the ethernet ... but it seems to not assign the ip propably ... i have to wait for another serial adapter (because mine seems to be b0rked when using with 115200 baud ... i only can read and Aug 02 16:01:55 not write - same as with my 1043nd ...) ... but i think i will get it working then :) Aug 02 16:02:23 haven't tried the image you linked ... cause my compile was ready already *G* Aug 02 16:02:41 <_trine> I have not tried that image either Aug 02 16:16:37 <_trine> Memphiz: which kind of serial adapter do you use Aug 02 16:16:57 <_trine> my max3232 works fine Aug 02 16:22:40 _trine i got it working Aug 02 16:22:56 <_trine> great Aug 02 16:23:19 _trine i have a max3232 ... it was a kit which i've soldered ... but it doesn't work at such high baudrates ... i've ordered a ca43 nokia usb to ttl cable ... which should work ... Aug 02 16:23:29 <_trine> I have bloody well lost a small pendrive somewhere here in my room Aug 02 16:23:39 i've checked the circuit of my adapter with the datasheet and can't find any errors Aug 02 16:23:44 lol Aug 02 16:23:49 <_trine> it should work Aug 02 16:24:06 <_trine> did you connect the vcc to it from the dockstar Aug 02 16:24:15 yes Aug 02 16:24:25 <_trine> mine works perfectly Aug 02 16:24:51 <_trine> which pin did you use for vcc on the dockstar Aug 02 16:24:55 and the adapter works if i shorten rx and tx ... so i can see my echo ... but when connected to the boards it just gives a "^E" on console if i hit enter ... Aug 02 16:25:00 that above of gnd Aug 02 16:25:07 <_trine> ok Aug 02 16:25:13 i've measured 3,3V there which should be vcc Aug 02 16:25:19 <_trine> it is Aug 02 16:25:45 but its no prob so far ... i can read everything which is fine for now Aug 02 16:26:38 <_trine> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tenerifeworld/max3232.jpg Aug 02 16:26:45 <_trine> did you build it like that Aug 02 16:27:02 <_trine> same value caps etc Aug 02 16:27:48 as i sad ... it was a kit ... from rss systems ... Aug 02 16:28:15 its a max3232cpe ... with 0,1uF condensators ... which is fine according to the datasheet ... Aug 02 16:28:34 and the circuit looks like that that u posted (which is the one from the datasheet i think) Aug 02 16:28:36 <_trine> I think I have a poltergeist in this room Aug 02 16:28:46 <_trine> things keep going missing :) Aug 02 16:28:48 lol Aug 02 16:29:08 there are 2 mhh tiefpass? (don't know the englisch word) on the 12V side ... Aug 02 16:29:30 <_trine> inductors Aug 02 16:29:35 low pass Aug 02 16:29:40 <_trine> filters Aug 02 16:29:42 2 low pass filters Aug 02 16:29:43 yeah Aug 02 16:29:56 <_trine> no need for those Aug 02 16:30:09 mhh ... maybe i should solder them away for testing Aug 02 16:30:21 have 2 of this shifters ... and both have the same behaviour ... Aug 02 16:30:52 <_trine> Memphiz: alter it to like my circuit Aug 02 16:31:35 k i'll do this quickly ... Aug 02 16:31:38 *soldering* Aug 02 16:49:43 <_trine> i found my pendrive Aug 02 16:59:46 _trine, you are the man Aug 02 16:59:52 <_trine> :) Aug 02 16:59:52 my serial works Aug 02 17:00:47 i should blame these fuckin professional electronics distributor *grr* Aug 02 17:01:39 <_trine> the filter was rounding off the signal Aug 02 17:02:00 thx man Aug 02 17:02:16 i'm unbrickable now :) Aug 02 17:02:29 <_trine> he he Aug 02 17:03:30 * _trine does not like the usb level converters Aug 02 17:05:21 <_trine> how did you put the openwrt onto you pendrive Aug 02 17:05:59 <_trine> I extract the file system and made /boot to put the uimage in but it didn't boot into openwrt Aug 02 17:06:04 i just build the trunk of kirkwood plattform Aug 02 17:06:08 <_trine> I did Aug 02 17:06:20 then extracted the rootfs.tar.gz to the root of the drive Aug 02 17:06:25 <_trine> I did Aug 02 17:06:36 and then put the kernel uImage to /pendrive/boot/uImage Aug 02 17:06:42 <_trine> I did Aug 02 17:06:45 <_trine> :( Aug 02 17:07:03 and i had to edit the /etc/config/network ... and commented the line which would make eth0 member of the bridge Aug 02 17:07:18 <_trine> can you show me Aug 02 17:07:29 after that i can see how the bootloader waits for the device ... and then the kernel from the drive is bootet and it waits another 10 secs for letting the drive settle and there it is Aug 02 17:07:41 _trine ahhh very importend thing Aug 02 17:07:53 i've used config files from some forum post ... mom Aug 02 17:09:19 <_trine> I saw those but is it necessary Aug 02 17:10:36 <_trine> http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r24479163-Re-Other-Own-a-FreeSwitch-on-a-Seagate-DockStar-for-2499 Aug 02 17:10:40 maybe ... with these configs it works here Aug 02 17:10:47 <_trine> are you taking about those configs Aug 02 17:10:59 http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1562544~4cebfe94603486f84c1d4d6be067817f/config-default Aug 02 17:11:00 http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1562543~2245023265ae4cf87d02c8b6ba991139/config Aug 02 17:11:19 ahh sorry ... can't say if this are the same Aug 02 17:11:20 <_trine> all you should need to do is to include the usb drivers Aug 02 17:11:27 yeah Aug 02 17:11:32 what are you seeing on serial Aug 02 17:12:03 <_trine> I see the image waiting to uncompress but it never does Aug 02 17:12:35 <_trine> I will try tomorrow or later with those configs Aug 02 17:12:57 <_trine> but I don't see why my compile should not work Aug 02 17:13:52 yeah Aug 02 17:14:31 <_trine> I mean this is not exactly rocket science as they say Aug 02 17:14:34 <_trine> :)) Aug 02 17:16:03 <_trine> I am annoyed with windows I think I have a trojan etc and i am scanning it all now so I can't boot into linux Aug 02 17:16:14 <_trine> and i want to Aug 02 17:18:43 i hate those siutations ... Aug 02 17:18:57 but you will fix it ... i'm sure :) Aug 02 17:19:12 <_trine> I wish I could dispense with windows but i can't Aug 02 17:19:42 <_trine> linux does not have some of the capability for what I do Aug 02 17:19:58 <_trine> but windows is a pain in the butt Aug 02 17:21:09 what about macosx? ^^ Aug 02 17:21:37 <_trine> macs are too dear and I have never use done Aug 02 17:21:44 <_trine> macs are too dear and I have never used one Aug 02 17:22:21 <_trine> windows will do I will put up with the pain and I have never paid for it :) Aug 02 17:23:58 hehe Aug 02 17:24:23 can someone lend me a hand at adding a patch to "linux-brcm47xx/compat-wireless-2010-07-26/net/wireless" ? Aug 02 17:24:26 <_trine> which line did you alter in /etc/config/network Aug 02 17:24:52 i dont get quilt to recognise the patch folder Aug 02 17:27:01 and i havent done any patching before :) Aug 02 17:28:58 _trine i commented "option type bridge" Aug 02 17:35:48 <_trine> ok Aug 02 17:58:21 riotz: wiki.openwrt.org/doc/devel/patches Aug 02 17:58:34 let the buildroot preare the quilt series Aug 02 18:24:10 lars * r22463 /trunk/target/linux/xburst/ (54 files in 5 dirs): [xburst] Add 2.6.35 patches Aug 02 19:11:00 nbd, ping Aug 02 19:14:14 nbd, will you tell Hauke not to commit the patch for the netgear routers. Its not quite working yet. Aug 02 19:32:44 cshore * r22464 /trunk/target/linux/brcm63xx/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [brcm63xx] patches-2.6.32/33: Reset button on Comtrend routers is GPIO 33 not GPIO 32 Aug 02 19:33:01 cshore * r22465 /trunk/target/linux/brcm63xx/base-files/lib/brcm63xx.sh: [brcm63xx] base-files: brcm63xx.sh: Added comtrend (96348GW-11) to routers with buttons and leds on preinit Aug 02 19:33:13 cshore * r22466 /trunk/target/linux/brcm63xx/base-files/etc/diag.sh: [brcm63xx]: base-files: diag.sh: For power button as preinit status led, end with led left on, not off Aug 02 20:11:21 RealOpty: if i see him before you do, yes Aug 02 20:45:55 jow * r22467 /trunk/package/base-files/files/lib/network/config.sh: [package] base-files: r22444 caused interfaces to remain down if the macaddr option is used, fix it. Also localize the txqueuelen option variable Aug 02 20:56:15 _trine: ping Aug 02 20:56:24 <_trine> pong Aug 02 20:57:27 can i get a dump of your board calibration data mtd partition? Aug 02 20:57:54 <_trine> you mean on the wndr3700 mtd5 Aug 02 20:58:01 yes Aug 02 20:58:05 <_trine> sure Aug 02 20:58:15 i'm currently working on resolving the regulatory domain hack mess Aug 02 20:58:18 together with atheros Aug 02 20:58:22 and i need to do some research for that Aug 02 21:02:11 <_trine> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tenerifeworld/caldata1 Aug 02 21:06:29 thanks Aug 02 21:09:25 what's the mac address of this device? Aug 02 21:10:40 never mind Aug 02 21:10:41 found it Aug 02 21:11:55 <_trine> 00:24:B2:D6:E0:9F just in case Aug 02 21:16:05 nbd, what kind of application do you use to view his caldata? Aug 02 21:17:19 hexdump Aug 02 21:28:57 nbd, you coming to vienna? i heard a rumor you might. Aug 02 21:38:58 probably not, other stuff got in the way Aug 02 21:43:49 * russell-- is disappointed Aug 03 01:57:23 cshore, ping Aug 03 02:02:46 ping RealOpty Aug 03 02:02:52 pong I mean Aug 03 02:02:56 hehe Aug 03 02:03:22 i read a page on the old wiki about you making some mods to the dirtyhairymaid Aug 03 02:03:31 so i figure you are the one to ask this question Aug 03 02:03:34 ok Aug 03 02:03:35 http://nuwiki.openwrt.org/_detail/oldwiki/openwrtdocs/customizing/hardware/jtagunbuffered.png?id=oldwiki%3Aopenwrtdocs%3Acustomizing%3Ahardware%3Ajtag_cable Aug 03 02:03:50 ok on that diagram.... Aug 03 02:04:07 is that the computers view of the port? Aug 03 02:04:10 or is that the cable? Aug 03 02:04:32 it says PC but i wanna make sure :/ Aug 03 02:05:13 If you have a male DB25 connector, this shows the cable side of the connector Aug 03 02:06:55 ok Aug 03 02:06:58 i.e. where you solder or crimp the wires to the connector Aug 03 02:07:38 well on my cable it has the pins numbered inside the male side. Aug 03 02:07:58 and they are reversed as what the diag says Aug 03 02:07:58 or the view facing the computer of the female connector on the computer Aug 03 02:08:54 cshore, oh so the diagram is the computers female connecter, correct? Aug 03 02:09:03 right Aug 03 02:09:10 ah thought so Aug 03 02:09:23 cshore, thank you! Aug 03 02:10:15 i finally got all the parts i need and borrow'd a computer with a old printer port and now im ready to jtag Aug 03 02:10:21 once i finish building the cable Aug 03 02:10:47 sounds fun Aug 03 02:11:05 If you can use bi-directional mode Aug 03 02:11:17 rather than EPP or ECP Aug 03 02:12:00 idk what that means Aug 03 02:12:16 but ummm one more question.. once i remember it. Aug 03 02:14:35 cshore, now i remembre Aug 03 02:14:48 ok on the wiki it said that the cable needs to be 6 inches or less Aug 03 02:15:01 is this true for a cable that has a sheild too? Aug 03 02:20:01 cshore, ? Aug 03 02:22:50 don't know....I use about a 12 inch unshielded cable okay Aug 03 02:24:31 kk Aug 03 02:24:49 well i hope it will work. i need the length Aug 03 02:40:18 cshore, have you ever seen a device with two places for jtag? Aug 03 02:40:41 my device does :/ and im wondering if i can use the 'other' one Aug 03 02:40:47 cause it has solder pads :/ Aug 03 02:40:52 no, but that doesn't mean they don't exist Aug 03 02:40:58 you sure it's not something else? Aug 03 02:41:13 indeed. Aug 03 02:41:45 its labeled with all the jtag wire info like TCK, TDO Aug 03 02:42:20 cshore, check it out Aug 03 02:42:21 http://nuwiki.openwrt.org/_media/oldwiki/openwrtdocs/hardware/netgear/wnr834bv2_internals.jpg Aug 03 02:42:51 all the tuts i read talk about the one next to the console Aug 03 02:43:32 but i wanna use the one at the top as it would be easier to solder too Aug 03 02:48:37 * cshore mocks RealOpty for being a scardey cat :P Aug 03 02:49:36 * cshore then looks at his last soldering job and things maybe soldering is best avoided Aug 03 02:49:43 *thinks **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 03 02:59:56 2010