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Jun 07 07:16:13 <CIA-84> blogic * r32097 /packages/net/asterisk-1.8.x/ (7 files in 5 dirs): [packages] fixes asterisk dependency
Jun 07 08:02:41 <stintel> sigh, I just soldered my ttl3.3v->usb on my rb2011 but I don't get anything
Jun 07 08:03:41 <dape-work> speed check?
Jun 07 08:05:07 <stintel> can you check ?
Jun 07 08:05:13 <stintel> I tried 38400, 9600 and 115200
Jun 07 08:05:59 <dape-work> 57600 ?
Jun 07 08:09:10 <stintel> nothing
Jun 07 08:10:25 <dape-work> you sure you soldered the right tx to the rx and viceversa?
Jun 07 08:10:42 <stintel> I already reversed them
Jun 07 08:11:06 <stintel> seeing nothing either way
Jun 07 08:12:53 <dape-work> you sure gnd is ok?
Jun 07 08:13:55 <stintel> my multimeter beeps when connecting 1 end to the usb connector and the other to random gnd pin on the rb2011
Jun 07 08:14:05 <stintel> so I would expect it to be ok
Jun 07 08:14:18 <stintel> I am of course a noob in all this
Jun 07 08:24:15 <stintel> le sigh
Jun 07 08:29:10 <dape-work> im sorry, im useless, no other idea..
Jun 07 08:29:37 <stintel> np, thanks anyway
Jun 07 08:29:59 <stintel> guess I am just going to send it to KanjiMonster after all :P
Jun 07 08:30:16 <dape-work> send him a high res pic of what you did first :-)
Jun 07 08:31:49 <KanjiMonster> stintel: have you tried switching tx and rx?
Jun 07 08:31:57 <KanjiMonster> ah, you did
Jun 07 08:32:52 <KanjiMonster> stintel: depending on how fast your multimeter is, you might find out if the tx is working by measuring the voltage and looking for a small dip when it's booting (hoping that it produces enough output)
Jun 07 08:35:09 <stintel> KanjiMonster: measure that with usb plugged in ?
Jun 07 08:35:19 <KanjiMonster> stintel: also have you checked whether the usb-ttl itself actually works? And you could try connecting it to a different usb port, I have at least one usb port here that for an unknown reason prevents usb-serial adapters from working (with them showing nothing, but being recognised properly)
Jun 07 08:35:32 <stintel> hrrrm
Jun 07 08:35:37 <stintel> I'll test the back usb ports
Jun 07 08:35:40 <stintel> this one is one case
Jun 07 08:36:27 <KanjiMonster> stintel: dunno, probably without, but I have at least one board that doesn't boot if I have the serial connected to a usb adapter, but not plugged in
Jun 07 08:37:13 <stintel> ah
Jun 07 08:37:31 <stintel> hmm, between gnd and rx I get 3.23V
Jun 07 08:37:35 <stintel> seems odd ?
Jun 07 08:37:52 <stintel> between gnd and 3v3 its 3.27V
Jun 07 08:38:46 <KanjiMonster> 3.23 sound okay
Jun 07 08:38:54 <KanjiMonster> my asus wl500gp has 3.25 iirc
Jun 07 08:39:01 <stintel> between gnd and rx ?
Jun 07 08:39:09 <KanjiMonster> yes
Jun 07 08:39:11 <stintel> k
Jun 07 08:39:21 <stintel> between gnd and txt I see 2.67
Jun 07 08:39:58 <_trine> you cant measure like that
Jun 07 08:39:58 <stintel> wait, with usb unplugged it gives twice 2.67
Jun 07 08:39:58 <KanjiMonster> although my asus only works with the cp2102 usb-ttl adapters; when using a passive serial-ttl-converter with my on-board rs232 I don't see anything
Jun 07 08:40:25 <stintel> _trine: I have no idea
Jun 07 08:41:35 <stintel> really, sigh
Jun 07 08:41:40 <_trine> the problem is that multimeters average a reading so if the voltage is fluctuating as in might be with TX and RX you would only get an average
Jun 07 08:42:00 <stintel> I feel like throwing this shit out the window
Jun 07 08:42:17 <stintel> routeros is an abomination
Jun 07 08:42:26 <_trine> I have only this minute come on channel so I dont really know what you are talking about
Jun 07 08:44:18 <stintel> _trine: I am trying to get a serial console on my rb2011l-in
Jun 07 08:44:33 <stintel> but "it doesn't work" (tm)
Jun 07 08:44:47 <_trine> a secondhand scope would be a fairly cheap piece of kit to buy these days
Jun 07 08:45:13 <_trine> are you using a usb type level converter
Jun 07 08:45:32 <KanjiMonster> _trine: it worked for me (finding tx by measuring voltage)
Jun 07 08:45:39 <stintel> _trine: I bought TTL-232R-3V3-WE from http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBTTLSerial.htm
Jun 07 08:46:43 <stintel> I soldered TX on the cable to RX on the board, vice versa, and gnd to gnd, which made the most sense to me
Jun 07 08:46:55 <stintel> didn't see anything so I switched the TX and RX, but same
Jun 07 08:47:20 <_trine> I dont know a lot about usb type level converters other than the fact that when people are having difficulties its always the usb type level converters which are involved
Jun 07 08:48:33 <_trine> stintel, one of the things I would do first is to check with your multimeter each side of any soldered connection you have made to make sure there are no shorts
Jun 07 08:48:42 <stintel> _trine: I did that already
Jun 07 08:48:50 <_trine> with the board unpowered
Jun 07 08:48:56 <stintel> ye
Jun 07 08:49:28 <_trine> do those cables with the ftdi chips require any driver
Jun 07 08:49:39 <_trine> and have you done that
Jun 07 08:49:57 <stintel> I get /dev/ttyUSB1
Jun 07 08:50:09 <stintel> (ttyUSB0 is my pl2302
Jun 07 08:50:32 <_trine> I see on that link you gave there appears to be some drivers to download
Jun 07 08:50:59 <_trine> it does not have a pl2302 in that cable
Jun 07 08:51:20 <_trine> or is it not an ftdi chip-
Jun 07 08:51:22 <stintel> All FTDI devices now supported in Ubuntu 11.10, kernel 3.0.0-19
Jun 07 08:51:22 <stintel> Refer to TN-101 if you need a custom VCP VID/PID in Linux
Jun 07 08:51:31 <stintel> _trine: you misunderstood
Jun 07 08:51:31 <_trine> I was looking at the link title
Jun 07 08:51:36 <stintel> ttyUSB0 is my pl2302
Jun 07 08:51:42 <stintel> the ftdi is recognized as ttyUSB1
Jun 07 08:51:51 <stintel> I have kernel 3.4
Jun 07 08:51:58 <stintel> so it should work out of the box
Jun 07 08:51:58 <_trine> well those pl2302 chips are fairly standard
Jun 07 08:52:39 <_trine> on the odd occasion some people have reported some of these cables require VCC as well
Jun 07 08:52:41 <stintel> yeah, works fine too. but it's just usb to rs232
Jun 07 08:53:01 <_trine> have you tried this cable on anything else you have
Jun 07 08:53:31 <stintel> no
Jun 07 08:53:56 <_trine> its always worthwhile checking the cable works if you have something else to try it against
Jun 07 08:53:58 <stintel> I never tried anything like this
Jun 07 08:54:04 <stintel> the VCC of this cable outputs 5V
Jun 07 08:54:29 <stintel> which I also find weird somehow
Jun 07 08:54:31 <_trine> it (might) be one of those cables which do require vcc but most dont need this
Jun 07 08:54:49 <_trine> well 5v is wrong
Jun 07 08:55:01 <stintel> that's what the datasheet mentions too
Jun 07 08:55:02 <_trine> but it probably will still work
Jun 07 08:55:25 <_trine> you have got the wrong cable you should have got a 3.3v one
Jun 07 08:55:33 <stintel> and both packages (I ordered two of them) mention 3.3V
Jun 07 08:55:43 <_trine> maybe thats your problem
Jun 07 08:55:53 <stintel> _trine: I got the 3.3V one. even the datasheet for the 3.3V one says that vcc outputs 5V
Jun 07 08:56:05 <stintel> le wtf
Jun 07 08:57:15 <_trine> well the usb itself is powered with 5v but the tx and rx should be at 3.3v
Jun 07 08:58:10 <_trine> its the signalling voltage you are concerned with here
Jun 07 08:58:42 <stintel> yeah but I was talking about the vcc that is 5v
Jun 07 08:59:09 <stintel> would seem weird to me that the cable needs to be connected to the vcc of the board if it already outputs 5V?
Jun 07 08:59:26 <stintel> then again I understand very little about this stuff
Jun 07 08:59:32 <_trine> your router should use 3.3v
Jun 07 08:59:44 <stintel> the router outputs 3.3V on vcc
Jun 07 09:00:26 <_trine> and sometimes there is a need to connect this 3.3v to the cable but I have never used a usb level converter so its just hearsay
Jun 07 09:01:11 <stintel> I could quickly try it but the 5V might fry the board ?
Jun 07 09:01:14 <_trine> I much prefer the old rs232 type
Jun 07 09:01:32 <_trine> at least you know exactly where you are with those
Jun 07 09:02:41 <_trine> one of the problems with these usb type is that there are many designs meant for different phones etc so you dont know exactly everytime what you are getting
Jun 07 09:03:16 <stintel> hehe well before I tried with some ic, omg
Jun 07 09:03:19 <stintel> lucky my hair is short
Jun 07 09:03:24 <stintel> I would have pulled it all otherwise
Jun 07 09:03:33 <_trine> I would not try anything until you have properly understood the problem
Jun 07 09:04:05 <_trine> the first thind I would do is to get another router you have and try the cable on that
Jun 07 09:04:28 <_trine> then based on what you find you can move forward a bit
Jun 07 09:05:35 <_trine> then it will allow you hopefully to focus in on what the problem is
Jun 07 09:06:09 <_trine> a scope is handy to have
Jun 07 09:06:44 <stintel> if you know how to use it and what to look for
Jun 07 09:08:06 <_trine> it would show you is there were any signals present
Jun 07 09:08:18 <_trine> and you could measure them
Jun 07 09:09:06 <_trine> but as I say I think your first job is to try the cable on something else
Jun 07 09:09:22 <_trine> to confirm its working or not
Jun 07 09:09:23 <stintel> not sure if I have anything else that I haven't fried yet
Jun 07 09:09:29 <_trine> lol
Jun 07 09:10:38 <stintel> if I'd send you an image of this, you'll probably die laughing
Jun 07 09:11:06 <_trine> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-RS232-TTL-PL2303HX-Auto-Converter-Module-Converter-Adapter-5V-3-3V-Output-/180836792643?pt=UK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a1ab67943
Jun 07 09:11:17 <_trine> these types are better than cables
Jun 07 09:11:34 <_trine> because you can see what the connections are
Jun 07 09:11:59 <_trine> cables are probably similar but they are encased
Jun 07 09:12:44 <_trine> I have to go now I am off with my with to accompany her for her dental check
Jun 07 09:12:53 <_trine> wife*
Jun 07 09:14:23 <KanjiMonster> stintel: you could check the cable by connecting its rx with its tx and checking if it echoes your input
Jun 07 09:14:38 <stintel> ah
Jun 07 09:19:04 <stintel> I at least get some garbled shit from my bbox2
Jun 07 09:19:34 <KanjiMonster> garbled shit usually means wrong speed ;)
Jun 07 09:19:38 <stintel> yeah
Jun 07 09:30:30 <stintel> ok, tx to rx works on both my cables
Jun 07 09:45:32 <stintel> no matter what speed I try, I only get garbled stuff
Jun 07 09:53:35 <stintel> and it seems that I only get output if I connect the gnd + rx (on the cable) after powering on the board :/
Jun 07 10:05:09 <stintel> note to self: don't ever buy shit without a serial port again
Jun 07 10:06:41 <jow_laptop> swapped rx and tx?
Jun 07 10:07:27 <stintel> yeah, tried it, it's always dead silent :(
Jun 07 10:54:06 <CIA-84> jow * r32098 /trunk/package/netifd/files/lib/netifd/proto/dhcp.sh: [package] netifd: fix typo in dhcp protocol handler, fixes reqopt handling (#11609)
Jun 07 11:35:52 <CIA-84> jow * r32099 /packages/libs/libpar2/ (Makefile patches/ patches/100-par2cmdline-0.4-packed.patch): [packages] libpar2: import Redhat/Gentoo par2cmdline-0.4-packed.patch - fixes repairing on MIPS (#8479)
Jun 07 12:24:15 <CIA-84> nbd * r32100 /trunk/toolchain/gcc/minimal/Makefile: toolchain: install libgcc for minimal gcc, needed by newer eglibc versions
Jun 07 12:24:35 <CIA-84> nbd * r32101 /trunk/toolchain/eglibc/ (8 files in 2 dirs): eglibc: add version 2.15
Jun 07 12:24:39 <CIA-84> nbd * r32102 /trunk/package/iptables/patches/200-configurable_builtin.patch: iptables: fix build error if only libraries are selected
Jun 07 12:37:52 <CIA-84> nbd * r32103 /trunk/package/iproute2/Makefile: iproute2: fix build errors with newer versions of eglibc
Jun 07 12:43:51 <CIA-84> nbd * r32104 /trunk/toolchain/eglibc/Config.in: eglibc: use 2.15 by default
Jun 07 12:49:31 <CIA-84> nbd * r32105 /branches/backfire/toolchain/Config.in: toolchain: mark eglibc/glibc as broken in backfire
Jun 07 14:32:14 <stintel> oh wait
Jun 07 14:32:28 <stintel> I just booted openwrt via pxe on my rb2011 I think, and now I do get console output
Jun 07 14:32:35 <stintel> maybe it's disabled in routeros
Jun 07 14:33:00 <stintel> only have the rx connected now though, damn
Jun 07 14:44:07 <stintel> hmm, it's not spawning a tty when I press enter
Jun 07 14:53:00 <builder_> build #33 of s3c24xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_4]  Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/s3c24xx/builds/33
Jun 07 14:55:28 <CIA-84> jow * r32106 /trunk/package/base-files/files/lib/functions/network.sh: [package] base-files: implement network_defer_device() and network_ready_device() wrappers for upcoming netifd iface deferring support
Jun 07 14:55:33 <CIA-84> blogic * r32107 /packages/libs/ptlib/patches/020-uclibc-res_nsearch.patch: [packages] fix ptlib compile for uclibc
Jun 07 14:55:41 <CIA-84> blogic * r32108 /packages/libs/phidget21/Makefile: [packages] fix phidget21 compile by explicitly linking shared objects
Jun 07 14:57:09 <CIA-84> blogic * r32109 /trunk/tools/automake/patches/200-fix_missing_py_compile.patch:
Jun 07 14:57:10 <CIA-84> [tools] fixes python related autokrampf install bug
Jun 07 14:57:10 <CIA-84> this commit fixes a compile bug triggered by pygobject
Jun 07 15:01:07 <CIA-84> blogic * r32110 /packages/multimedia/spcaview/: [packages] drop spcaview as v4l was dropped
Jun 07 15:01:08 <CIA-84> blogic * r32111 /packages/multimedia/palantir/: [packages] drop palantir as v4l was dropped
Jun 07 15:04:49 <stintel> [    0.000000] MIPS: no machine found for id '2011L', supported machines:
Jun 07 15:04:56 <stintel> meh, I wrote it 2011l
Jun 07 15:10:48 <stintel> actually this board could be nice to test openvswitch on
Jun 07 15:11:06 <stintel> it has no support for wifi, so I don't need hostapd, which is incompatible with ovs
Jun 07 15:24:36 <CIA-84> nbd * r32112 /trunk/tools/e2fsprogs/patches/005-posix_memalign.patch: e2fsprogs: add posix_memalign related portability patch from #8508
Jun 07 15:40:32 <CIA-84> tripolar * r32113 /packages/net/nfs-kernel-server/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [packages]: update nfs-kernel-server to 1.2.6
Jun 07 16:16:03 <stintel> alright so now it boots, and recognizes the device, but it problably needs some code in mach-rb2011.c to configure the interfaces
Jun 07 16:18:28 <stintel> http://stewie.be.tintel.eu/screenlog.txt
Jun 07 16:19:45 <stintel> it seems to switch to 9600 again
Jun 07 16:30:49 <CIA-84> nbd * r32114 /trunk/include/netfilter.mk: include/netfilter.mk: clean up, remove junk for old kernel versions
Jun 07 16:32:46 <CIA-84> nbd * r32115 /trunk/target/linux/xburst/modules.mk: xburst: remove an obsolete CompareKernelPatchVer call
Jun 07 16:39:35 <CIA-84> nbd * r32116 /trunk/include/prereq-build.mk: prereq-build: flex is built in tools/ - do not require it to be installed on the host
Jun 07 16:51:54 <CIA-84> nbd * r32117 /trunk/package/kernel/modules/usb.mk: kernel: add module packages for usbip (from the packages feed)
Jun 07 16:52:24 <CIA-84> nbd * r32118 /packages/net/usbip/Makefile: usbip: remove kmod packages (moved to trunk)
Jun 07 16:53:42 <CIA-84> nbd * r32119 /packages/net/usbip/Makefile: usbip: remove some more kmod package leftovers
Jun 07 17:00:58 <CIA-84> tripolar * r32120 /packages/net/nfs-kernel-server/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [packages]: nfs-kernel server: fix the configure problem with CONFIGURE_VARS instead of a patch
Jun 07 17:01:35 <CIA-84> blogic * r32121 /packages/utils/collectd/patches/130-fix_netlink_kernel_3.3-patch:
Jun 07 17:01:35 <CIA-84> [packages] fixes netlink / 3.3 related collectd breakage
Jun 07 17:01:35 <CIA-84> fixes #11348, #11610, #11490
Jun 07 17:01:35 <CIA-84> thanks hnyman
Jun 07 17:09:07 <CIA-84> jow * r32122 /packages/devel/diffutils/Makefile: [packages] diffutils: handle executable clashes with busybox (#11614)
Jun 07 17:18:02 <CIA-84> nbd * r32123 /branches/backfire/package/swconfig/Makefile: swconfig: depend on !LINUX_2_4 in backfire
Jun 07 17:42:55 <CIA-84> zioproto * r32124 /packages/net/olsrd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
Jun 07 17:42:55 <CIA-84> [packages] olsrd: Version Bump 0.6.3
Jun 07 17:42:55 <CIA-84> CHANGELOG: (details in GIT on olsrd.org )
Jun 07 17:42:55 <CIA-84> * PUD plugin (position update plugin)
Jun 07 17:42:55 <CIA-84> * JSONinfo plugin
Jun 07 17:42:56 <CIA-84> * sgwdynspeed plugin (select dynamic smart gateway based on gw speed)
Jun 07 17:42:56 <CIA-84> * Update on Quagga plugin (for new Quagga)
Jun 07 18:14:46 <CIA-84> blogic * r32125 /packages/multimedia/crtmpserver/patches/060-add-dl-for-crypto.patch: [packages] crtmpserver - add missing -ldl
Jun 07 22:05:05 <dape> darn openwrt on my seagate goflex would be so cool, with ipv6 and another ftpd than vsftp
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