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Oct 11 09:35:16 <jow_laptop> philipp64|laptop: no it reportedly works fine. Maybe you forgot to gunzip the combined image before trying to sysupgrade with it
Oct 11 10:14:23 <markun> jow_laptop: is there some todo list with easy stuff for a developer to get familiar with openwrt?
Oct 11 10:18:08 <jow_laptop> "easy stuff" ?
Oct 11 10:19:45 <zajec> markun: you should tell if you're interested in hardware support or software at least
Oct 11 10:22:58 <markun> well, both, but maybe it's good to start with software. I'm a developer for rockbox, don't know if you guys are familiar with it.
Oct 11 10:23:10 <zajec> not really
Oct 11 10:23:18 <[florian]> I used it on my ipod nano
Oct 11 10:23:20 <zajec> markun: first, try to download OpenWRT and build your own image
Oct 11 10:23:22 <markun> it's a firmware for mp3 players
Oct 11 10:23:27 <markun> zajec: done :)
Oct 11 10:23:28 <zajec> ah, i heard about it, ok :)
Oct 11 10:23:49 <zajec> markun: nice :) did you install it succesfully on some router or VM?
Oct 11 10:23:53 <[florian]> markun: are not most of your targets running without mmu?
Oct 11 10:24:22 <loswillios> I used it on my 1st gen nano too :)
Oct 11 10:24:39 <markun> zajec: on my router (I have a TP-Link WR841N
Oct 11 10:24:42 <markun> )
Oct 11 10:24:58 * zajec wish to see some OS with real user space in cars
Oct 11 10:25:00 <markun> [florian], loswillios: hope you guys liked it :)
Oct 11 10:25:06 <zajec> i hate not being able to play FLAC in car :/
Oct 11 10:25:13 <markun> I guess the interface is a bit of a regression from the ipod
Oct 11 10:25:14 <[florian]> markun: I did, there was some bugs at that time, but it was doing ok
Oct 11 10:25:28 <[florian]> it's just software, it can be changed
Oct 11 10:25:42 <markun> I've not really active for the last 2 years, but want to get back to some embedded programming
Oct 11 10:25:51 <zajec> markun: now you need to find something that's not working/not enough for you ;)
Oct 11 10:25:55 <jow_laptop> markun: well you could attempt to port some software, to get a handle on the usual practical issues
Oct 11 10:25:59 <zajec> markun: something in software
Oct 11 10:26:04 <zajec> markun: or in LUCI
Oct 11 10:26:09 <jow_laptop> markun: then you could use gpios to do some hardware communication
Oct 11 10:26:18 <zajec> markun: i'd love to see GUI in Luci for transmission
Oct 11 10:26:39 <markun> it's lunchtime here, I'll be back in a while
Oct 11 10:26:40 <jow_laptop> zajec: wonder why though. Transmission-web is already quite perfect
Oct 11 10:26:53 <jow_laptop> hard to beat that
Oct 11 10:26:56 <loswillios> indeed
Oct 11 10:27:00 <zajec> jow_laptop: i don't mean full client
Oct 11 10:27:05 <zajec> just basic conffiguration
Oct 11 10:27:11 <zajec> enable/disable, port, http access
Oct 11 10:27:26 <jow_laptop> http://luci.subsignal.org/trac/browser/luci/trunk/applications/luci-transmission
Oct 11 10:27:40 <zajec> jow_laptop: oooh
Oct 11 10:28:00 <zajec> ok... i didn't check that for the last ~year ;)
Oct 11 10:29:03 <zajec> jow_laptop: it looks great! :)
Oct 11 10:29:22 <jow_laptop> never looked at it actually
Oct 11 10:29:27 <jow_laptop> it was contributed
Oct 11 11:33:49 <markun> which routers do you guys use? I assume from talk about transmission that you have USB ports and external HDD's.
Oct 11 12:11:25 <gladiac1337> wrt610n, wrt160nl, asus wl500g premium, wrt54gl
Oct 11 12:22:14 <_trine> they are all pretty much crap routers by todays standard
Oct 11 12:25:55 <gladiac1337> so true
Oct 11 12:26:10 <gladiac1337> 160nl is quite usable, though
Oct 11 12:48:06 <_trine> it is usable but it is not a router I would advise anyone to buy today
Oct 11 12:48:40 <gladiac1337> right now i kind of like the wndr3800
Oct 11 12:51:51 <DonkeyHotei> afaik the wndr3800 is the most openwrt-friendly device on the open market atm
Oct 11 12:53:05 <_trine>  the wndr3700 V4 might be better
Oct 11 12:53:33 <_trine> but the 3800 is very good
Oct 11 12:54:09 <DonkeyHotei> there's a v4 now?
Oct 11 12:54:16 <_trine> yes
Oct 11 12:54:27 <DonkeyHotei> iirc the v3 wasn't friendly at all
Oct 11 12:54:35 <_trine> correct
Oct 11 12:54:54 <_trine> the V4 is atheros again
Oct 11 12:55:11 <gladiac1337> v3 was broadcom afaik
Oct 11 12:55:24 <gladiac1337> nice, good to know
Oct 11 12:55:43 <gladiac1337> how much ram does v4 have?
Oct 11 12:56:14 <_trine> http://www.wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_WNDR3700v4
Oct 11 12:56:55 <_trine> thats all I know
Oct 11 12:58:38 <DonkeyHotei> it says it's the same board as the 4300
Oct 11 12:58:46 <DonkeyHotei> so the 4300 is good too'
Oct 11 12:59:08 <DonkeyHotei> and the 4300 has 128 ram and 128 flash, wow
Oct 11 12:59:09 <_trine> that might be a guess
Oct 11 12:59:51 <DonkeyHotei> that puts everything else that's consumer grade to shame
Oct 11 13:00:04 <_trine> well lets see
Oct 11 13:07:40 <DonkeyHotei> the fcc internal photos really suck for both devices
Oct 12 02:52:18 <eigma> markun: rockbox is awesome! I hacked on it for a bit a few years ago
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