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Oct 17 05:48:14 <russell--> nbd git tree not synchronized with svn?
Oct 17 05:49:19 * russell-- 's progress comes to screeching halt
Oct 17 07:49:49 <KanjiMonster> russell--: why do you think the gittree isn't synchronized? the last commits there seem to match my svn checkout
Oct 17 10:14:48 <karlp> Kaloz: Florian suggested in a mail that I should contact you about being a package maintainer?
Oct 17 10:15:07 <karlp> what do I need to do/know ?
Oct 17 10:15:38 <blogic> karlp: what package
Oct 17 10:15:39 <blogic> ?
Oct 17 10:17:19 <karlp> mosquitto
Oct 17 10:17:43 <blogic> ah ok
Oct 17 14:00:20 <karlp> jow_laptop/nbd: http://pastebin.com/hPDkYaS3 uci from git just now installs the libs to the wrong path on 64bit.
Oct 17 14:00:37 <karlp> is that a known problem?
Oct 17 14:00:50 <jow_laptop> ?
Oct 17 14:02:03 <karlp> ? is there something else I can say to explain that? is there something that wasn't clear enough there?
Oct 17 14:02:30 <jow_laptop> didn't know that we have any 64 bit target on openwrt
Oct 17 14:03:18 <karlp> uci works just fine on regular linux too.
Oct 17 14:03:54 <karlp> I install it on my development machine so that Ican develop apps locally, instead of on the openwrt device.
Oct 17 14:04:01 <jow_laptop> so I should've guessed that you compile it for a normal distro
Oct 17 14:04:14 <karlp> yup.
Oct 17 14:04:21 <jow_laptop> crystal ball is broken
Oct 17 14:04:32 <jow_laptop> ask nbd, I do not maintain uci
Oct 17 14:05:04 <karlp> ok.
Oct 17 14:10:56 <karlp> do you know if the uci plugin for lua is the same interface as in "luci.model.uci" ?
Oct 17 14:15:31 <nbd> karlp: feel free to send a patch ;)
Oct 17 14:15:44 <karlp> to where? :)
Oct 17 14:15:56 <karlp> I've never really used cmake, but i'll have a look.
Oct 17 14:15:59 <nbd> nbd@openwrt.org
Oct 17 14:16:15 <karlp> it did the right thing for the lua bit, just not for the the other ones
Oct 17 14:16:35 <jow_laptop> karlp: no it is not the same interface
Oct 17 14:16:41 <nbd> that's because it calls lua to figure out where lua plugins should go
Oct 17 14:17:05 <nbd> as for lib vs lib64, there should be some generic way of handling the install path there
Oct 17 14:17:22 <karlp> are there any lua apps that use libuci direclty rather than the luci modules I can look at?
Oct 17 14:19:39 <jow_laptop> none that I am aware of
Oct 17 14:28:59 <[florian]> karlp: I have seen that happening on uml a lot
Oct 17 14:30:16 <karlp> [florian]: uml?
Oct 17 14:30:24 <blogic> user mode linux
Oct 17 14:30:49 <[florian]> it picks up the native architecture you are running on
Oct 17 14:31:14 <[florian]> which means 64-bits mostly these days
Oct 17 14:33:26 <russell--> KanjiMonster: it was a guess, at the time openwrt-dev mailing list indicated commits were >r33800, while git pull was stuck on r33782
Oct 17 14:34:09 <KanjiMonster> russell--: all commits after that were to packages, that why you weren't seeing them in the openwrt.git
Oct 17 14:35:06 <russell--> that could certainly explain it
Oct 17 14:35:26 <karlp> hmm, I've got a patch that works here, but reading on the net seems that debian based systems don't use the /usr/lib and /usr/lib64 difference.
Oct 17 14:43:23 <blogic> karlp: /usr/lib and /usr/lib32
Oct 17 14:44:39 <nbd> karlp: i'd expect cmake to have something to detect the lib dir correctly
Oct 17 14:48:47 <karlp> nbd: so would I, but it doesn't seem to have if the net is to be believed.
Oct 17 14:49:02 <karlp> but I'm a complete novice at cmake.
Oct 17 14:51:08 * russell-- still seeing this on x86 generic with select-all-packages http://sprunge.us/ICEP
Oct 17 14:51:40 <jow_laptop> russell--: http://patchwork.openwrt.org/patch/2677/
Oct 17 14:53:23 <jow_laptop> nbd: should be enough to replace DESTINATION lib with DESTINATION ${LIB_INSTALL_DIR}
Oct 17 14:53:59 <jow_laptop> that will either refer to "lib" or "lib64"
Oct 17 14:54:22 <karlp> I was just trying that, but it seems to be an empty var here
Oct 17 15:17:12 <russell--> jow_laptop: thanks, that helped, but it dies a little further on MSI_LAPTOP
Oct 17 15:25:45 <russell--> ah, i think i've figured it out
Oct 17 15:34:45 <russell--> this fixing building for x86_generic (thanks for the cluestick, jow_laptop, /me is fractionally less dumb now): http://sprunge.us/YNCZ
Oct 17 15:43:44 <OutBackDingo> blogic: ping
Oct 17 16:10:14 <nunojpg> I installed 12.09 on a ADM5120P and it's not persisting /etc/config/* after reboot
Oct 17 16:10:49 <nunojpg> it is a squashfs image, and the jffs partition is working
Oct 17 16:11:46 <nunojpg> well, it is not /etc/config/* files that are problematic, if I put any file there it is persisted, but the common files like network and system get to default on boot
Oct 17 16:12:07 <nunojpg> what can be causing this?
Oct 17 17:43:19 <vanDrunen> hey all, I am about to send a package to Gregers with donated hardware (Alix 2D13, Alix 6F2, Displaylink screen, Novatel 850D UMTS modem, DNMA92 wifi card and some accessoires)
Oct 17 17:43:35 <vanDrunen> I was wondering if there are some other things that are needed that I could send?
Oct 17 17:43:52 <karlp> whiskey!
Oct 17 17:44:18 <vanDrunen> For instance, I have some Grandstream GXP2000 VoIP phones, Arduino Ethernet boards, CF to IDE converters and loads of PCI USB cards
Oct 17 17:44:28 <vanDrunen> and dutch cheese
Oct 17 17:44:31 <vanDrunen> no whiskey
Oct 17 17:44:52 <vanDrunen> but any wishes?
Oct 17 17:49:36 <nunojpg> wasn't christmas in Dezember?
Oct 17 17:49:48 <vanDrunen> it's early this year
Oct 17 17:51:31 <nunojpg> did you replace the ip phones in the company?
Oct 17 17:51:35 <vanDrunen> I am donating new hardware for "self interest", can not contribute much cash, but have a lot of overstock and used hardware that could (indirectly) benefit OpenWRT of the devs personally
Oct 17 17:51:37 <nunojpg> GXP2000 are not that old!
Oct 17 17:51:53 <vanDrunen> the GXP2000 all got replaced with SNOM 370
Oct 17 17:52:21 <vanDrunen> we switched from 3CX (windows based… bleghhh) to Asterisk and the old phones were a bit "cheapish"
Oct 17 17:52:29 <nunojpg> cool
Oct 17 17:52:36 <nunojpg> I use Avaya
Oct 17 17:52:36 <vanDrunen> the GXP
Oct 17 17:52:44 <vanDrunen> 's are not a OpenWRT target
Oct 17 17:52:59 <vanDrunen> but they could be used for testing…. or for personal use..
Oct 17 17:53:03 <nunojpg> but for a small company they are a configuration nightmare
Oct 17 17:53:11 <nunojpg> just like any cisco gear for example
Oct 17 17:53:16 <vanDrunen> Avaya is nice too, I worked with those at a call-center from a creditcard company (administering them)
Oct 17 17:53:52 <nunojpg> at home I keep having to revert to a soft ip-phone when I need to record calls :(
Oct 17 17:54:25 <nunojpg> (I don't asterisk running, just direct SIP to the internet)
Oct 17 17:54:45 <vanDrunen> I have one GXP here running with Voipbuster
Oct 17 17:55:15 <vanDrunen> but the phone's sound quality is low, that's why we switched to SNOM at the company (wideband audio, high quality speakers)
Oct 17 17:56:31 <vanDrunen> nunojpg: what part of openwrt do you maintain?
Oct 17 17:56:32 <nunojpg> I have a CISCO 1801 here stopped, do you have any use for it?
Oct 17 17:56:47 <nunojpg> I only mantain some packages, no core stuff
Oct 17 17:57:08 <nunojpg> or 1811, not sure
Oct 17 17:57:28 <vanDrunen> I have a Cisco CCNA2 cert… and I don't like Cisco… :)
Oct 17 17:57:50 <vanDrunen> more or less boycotting them
Oct 17 17:58:19 <nunojpg> that makes 2 of us...
Oct 17 17:58:38 <vanDrunen> I used to love Linksys stuff and always wanted real cisco gear...
Oct 17 17:58:50 <vanDrunen> now I have it at work… and am utterly disappointed
Oct 17 17:59:06 <nunojpg> exactly like me...
Oct 17 17:59:21 <vanDrunen> got CCNA2 because I was a part-time teacher at a college and had to teach a networking course
Oct 17 17:59:34 <nunojpg> but I have like 30 linksys routers in the field, and ZERO hardware failures in 3 years :)
Oct 17 17:59:42 <written_tabletpc> linksys stuff sucks
Oct 17 17:59:49 <vanDrunen> at the end of the course I started teaching the "kids" to use OpenWRT instead…. ha
Oct 17 18:00:00 <written_tabletpc> lol
Oct 17 18:00:30 <vanDrunen> the cisco courseware was nice, but then we had to teach them the commands on real routers...
Oct 17 18:00:44 <vanDrunen> and the command line was too difficult for them, too abstract
Oct 17 18:01:27 <vanDrunen> so after they passed all the online stuff and they had to build a network from scratch for practice… that's when OpenWRT proved to be more powerful and intuitive from them
Oct 17 18:02:46 <nunojpg> cisco is for dedicate expert, nothing less
Oct 17 18:02:54 <nunojpg> so just for enterprise
Oct 17 18:03:17 <vanDrunen> yeah, the companies I work for are all under 50 employees
Oct 17 18:04:25 <bright_laptop> Hello, could anyone review my patch? Just forgot to resend newer revision of my package which has some things fixed while my previous revision was accepted. http://patchwork.openwrt.org/patch/2762/
Oct 17 18:42:14 <bnchdrff> is there a facility in the openwrt build / package system to fetch an updated Git revision id and re-tarball the source tree?
Oct 17 18:43:37 <nbd> the openwrt build system assumes that packages are not moving targets and the git revision id is specified in the makefile
Oct 17 18:43:53 <nbd> to ensure more deterministic build behavior
Oct 17 18:45:42 <bnchdrff> yes, that is a nice feature :) pegging the version is good.
Oct 17 18:46:12 <bnchdrff> but... say there is a new version and i want to check out a more recent git revision
Oct 17 18:46:35 <nbd> if you make the tarball name depend on the git revision, then this automatically happens when you change the git revision in the makefile
Oct 17 18:46:48 <bnchdrff> ah
Oct 17 18:46:53 <bnchdrff> nice
Oct 17 18:47:01 <nbd> most openwrt packages that have git source urls do it this way
Oct 17 18:47:06 <bnchdrff> sweet.
Oct 17 18:47:07 <bnchdrff> thanks
Oct 17 18:47:07 <nbd> you can find several examples in trunk
Oct 17 18:47:19 <bright_laptop> nbd: Can I ask you for a favour?
Oct 17 18:47:38 <nbd> bright_laptop: what kind of favour?
Oct 17 18:49:02 <bright_laptop> Well, there's a package of mine in feeds repo. Compiled binary of this package has wrong path to iptables, so the binary works, but iptables calls does not work due to absolute paths in source code (/sbin/iptables instead of /usr/sbin/iptables).
Oct 17 18:49:08 <bright_laptop> http://patchwork.openwrt.org/patch/2762/
Oct 17 18:51:10 <bright_laptop> But with this patch IPS (intrusion prevention system) based on snortsam with snort works.
Oct 17 18:51:31 <bright_laptop> Just forgot to send a new revision to mailing list :-(
Oct 17 18:56:28 <nbd> bright_laptop: applied
Oct 17 18:56:46 <bright_laptop> thank you so much
Oct 17 20:12:47 <blogic> OutBackDingo: hi
Oct 17 20:18:45 <written_tabletpc> .
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