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Nov 06 05:39:29 <OpenWrt-Commits> kaloz r34094 trunk/target/linux/cns3xxx/Makefile * [cns3xxx]: add default packages
Nov 06 05:45:33 <OpenWrt-Commits> kaloz r34095 trunk/target/linux/cns3xxx/patches-3.3/ 410-ethernet_fix_jumbo_frame.patch 102-cns3xxx_timers.patch * [cns3xxx]: refresh patches
Nov 06 07:38:39 <OpenWrt-Commits> blogic r34096 trunk/package/ (6 files in 4 dirs) * [lantiq] prepare dsl driver for 3.6 and split fw into a seperate package
Nov 06 07:38:45 <OpenWrt-Commits> blogic r34097 trunk/target/linux/ lantiq/xway/profiles/001-lantiq.mk lantiq/image/Makefile * [lantiq] add support for arv7525
Nov 06 07:42:05 <OpenWrt-Commits> blogic r34098 trunk/package/ system/ltq-dsl-fw/Makefile a * [lantiq] unbreak ltq-dsl-fw
Nov 06 07:43:29 <OpenWrt-Commits> blogic r34099 trunk/package/a * remove bogus file
Nov 06 07:43:35 <blogic> grrr
Nov 06 07:43:39 <blogic> head->desk
Nov 06 10:40:05 <OpenWrt-Commits> blogic r34100 trunk/target/linux/ lantiq/patches-3.6/0201-lantiq-dtb-image-hack.patch lantiq/patches-3.6/0200-MIPS-dtb-image-hack.patch * [lantiq] add OWRTDTB marker patch
Nov 06 11:17:02 <OpenWrt-Commits> luka r34101 trunk/target/linux/ (24 files in 8 dirs) * cns3xxx: use files directory
Nov 06 11:17:04 <OpenWrt-Commits> luka r34102 trunk/target/linux/cns3xxx/config-3.3 * cns3xxx: refresh kernel config file
Nov 06 11:51:00 <russell--> nbd: grub2's makefile seems hosed, make clean,prepare(,compile?) don't do what's expected
Nov 06 11:58:32 <russell--> is there a magical make target for those?
Nov 06 12:08:48 <russell--> package/boot/grub2/$foo violates least-astonishment-principle
Nov 06 13:22:49 <nbd> russell--: try make package/grub2/host/{clean,compile}
Nov 06 13:24:37 <nbd> grub2 is a host build, the non-host build is only for adding a dependency
Nov 06 14:43:04 <BasicXP> is it just me or the latest trunk hangs on feeds/luci/luci?
Nov 06 14:43:11 <BasicXP> i mean the build
Nov 06 14:43:17 <BasicXP> ^C doesn't stop it
Nov 06 14:55:38 <BasicXP> it's just me, sorry
Nov 06 15:22:09 <OpenWrt-Commits> jogo r34103 trunk/ (17 files in 5 dirs) * linux: export bcm963xx_tag.h to userspace
Nov 06 16:15:12 <DonkeyHotei> blogic: i am becoming fed up with the state of ar7 in openwrt, particularly the lack of a 1350A wifi driver. are there any annex-A lantiq-target devices in the wild, or are they all annex-B?
Nov 06 16:15:58 <blogic> netgear dgn3500A/dgn1000A, bufallo WBMR
Nov 06 16:16:11 <blogic> also most annex B devices with a Annex A firmware will work
Nov 06 16:16:42 <merbanan> don't they have different filters ?
Nov 06 16:16:49 <blogic> yes
Nov 06 16:16:59 <blogic> the B hybrid works on a A line
Nov 06 16:17:05 <blogic> just not the other way round
Nov 06 16:17:06 <DonkeyHotei> i have looked before for WBMR devices and found none for sale anywhere
Nov 06 16:17:33 <DonkeyHotei> anywhere that would ship to the usa, that is
Nov 06 16:18:05 <blogic> netgear dgn3500
Nov 06 16:18:24 <blogic> http://www.amazon.com/Netgear-DGN3500-Wireless-Gigabit-Router/dp/B003Y4977Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352218696&sr=8-1&keywords=netgear+dgn3500
Nov 06 16:18:39 <DonkeyHotei> also, i would prefer a device that is specifically annex A rather than hybrid B, based on my experiences with the Speedport W501V
Nov 06 16:32:42 <DonkeyHotei> blogic: how much ram/flash do the dgn3500a, dgn1000a, and buffalo have?
Nov 06 16:36:06 <blogic> dn3500 has 16 / 64 ?
Nov 06 16:36:09 <blogic> well
Nov 06 16:36:13 <blogic> 64 / 16
Nov 06 16:36:20 <blogic> wbmr i am not sure
Nov 06 16:36:24 <blogic> i blew mine
Nov 06 16:36:31 <blogic> if you can, get the wbmr
Nov 06 16:39:00 <DonkeyHotei> the actiontec pk5000 (ar7) has 32 flash and 64 ram, but the damn 1350A wifi. that one would have been really nice
Nov 06 16:39:53 <blogic> no idea what 1350A is
Nov 06 16:39:58 <DonkeyHotei> what about the dgn1000a? is that the same as the 3500 but with different wifi
Nov 06 16:40:10 <blogic> atheros usb wifi
Nov 06 16:40:13 <blogic> not supported yet
Nov 06 16:40:18 <blogic> the dgn1000 is in the pipeline
Nov 06 16:40:23 <blogic> there is no support in trunk yet
Nov 06 16:40:24 <blogic> bbiab
Nov 06 16:40:37 <DonkeyHotei> the 1350A was the newer vlynq-based wifi on ar7. we have no driver for it, only the older 1130
Nov 06 16:41:10 <DonkeyHotei> do both 3500 and 1000 have the atheros usb?
Nov 06 16:44:14 <DonkeyHotei> iirc lantiq passed the buck on giving us enough to work with on the TI 1350A wifi chipset to make a driver
Nov 06 16:44:29 <DonkeyHotei> they had a binary-only one for the 2.4 kernel
Nov 06 16:44:59 <DonkeyHotei> once ar7 went to 2.6, no more wifi on devices using 1350A
Nov 06 18:02:34 * DonkeyHotei is still waiting for blogic to "bbiab"
Nov 06 18:36:12 * DonkeyHotei sees that it is 7:35pm in .de
Nov 06 18:36:43 <DonkeyHotei> almost 2 hrs
Nov 06 20:50:31 <russell--> nbd: thanks (is that documented anywhere?)
Nov 06 20:54:55 <russell--> BUILD_LOG=1 doesn't seem to work for package/grub2/host/stuff, nothing appears in logs/* anyway.
Nov 06 20:56:10 * russell-- is about to start sprinkling debugging grub_printf's to figure out why grub2 isn't working on alix2
Nov 06 21:11:16 <DonkeyHotei> blogic: you back yet?
Nov 06 21:28:14 <blogic> DonkeyHotei: sort of
Nov 06 21:28:41 <DonkeyHotei> do both the dgn3500 and the dgn1000 have usb wifi?
Nov 06 21:29:19 <blogic> dgn3500 has ath9k capable wifi
Nov 06 21:29:26 <DonkeyHotei> usb?
Nov 06 21:29:28 <blogic> but i have not tested it yet
Nov 06 21:29:31 <blogic> pci
Nov 06 21:29:35 <DonkeyHotei> ok
Nov 06 21:29:50 <DonkeyHotei> do they both have usb host ports otherwise?
Nov 06 21:29:59 <blogic> well ... i am sure it will needs somw love to make it work
Nov 06 21:30:14 <blogic> the dgn3500 has a usb port
Nov 06 21:30:25 <blogic> the dgn1000 does not
Nov 06 21:30:51 <DonkeyHotei> i was unable to find the buffalo device for sale anywhere in the world
Nov 06 21:31:24 <DonkeyHotei> however, none of the three have any lantiq voip hardware
Nov 06 21:31:37 <DonkeyHotei> do any annex A devices exist with that?
Nov 06 21:34:08 <DonkeyHotei> and do lantiq annex A devices support annex M and/or annex L? i don't have much use for annex M myself, but i ask in case i recommend a device to others. i _would_ like annex L, though
Nov 06 21:35:29 <DonkeyHotei> blogic: any info?
Nov 06 21:37:19 <blogic> no idea
Nov 06 21:37:35 <blogic> M is an optional feature on top of A/B
Nov 06 21:37:39 <blogic> not sure about L
Nov 06 21:37:49 <blogic> in general the fimrware supports most modes
Nov 06 21:37:58 <blogic> you just need to pass the correct xtu bits
Nov 06 21:38:05 <blogic> sorry ... i am off again
Nov 06 21:41:31 <DonkeyHotei> blogic: in case you're not completely gone, what eth switch is in the dgn3500 and does it do vlans?
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