**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 25 02:59:58 2014 Apr 25 06:50:25 Hauke_away: ping Apr 25 07:00:38 build #599 of brcm47xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/brcm47xx/builds/599 Apr 25 07:28:25 build #582 of cobalt is complete: Failure [failed compile_8] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/cobalt/builds/582 Apr 25 07:44:06 build #38 of pxa is complete: Failure [failed shell compile_4] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/pxa/builds/38 Apr 25 08:56:24 build #38 of omap is complete: Failure [failed compile_4] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/omap/builds/38 Apr 25 09:23:44 nbd: hey, are you around? Apr 25 09:24:24 ye Apr 25 09:47:54 build #502 of ixp4xx is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/ixp4xx/builds/502 Apr 25 09:58:02 nbd: oops, i missed your reply Apr 25 09:58:11 nbd: could you comment on my backends idea? Apr 25 09:58:35 i'm working on a backend library already Apr 25 09:58:39 code is not pushed yet though Apr 25 09:58:45 and it will work through ubus Apr 25 09:58:55 oh, a bit more complex :) Apr 25 09:59:07 (mostly because of callbacks I believe) Apr 25 09:59:13 it's quite simple Apr 25 09:59:31 did you start working on any particular backend? Apr 25 09:59:33 system? uci? Apr 25 09:59:42 uci is going to be my first backend Apr 25 10:00:25 nbd: sounds interesting, any ETA on public visibility? (don't really need the code as such, just curious about developments) Apr 25 10:01:01 nbd: could you push what you have? Apr 25 10:01:08 nbd: i could work on system backend Apr 25 10:01:15 and implement uptime for example Apr 25 10:01:24 I missed the beginning of the conversation. Are you talking about NETCONF functionality or something like that? Apr 25 10:01:26 not at the moment, still working on design issues Apr 25 10:01:29 my experience with doing SNMP/XML/whatever management stuff for routers is that it's typically bloody painful, due to two reasons - horribly encoding of management stuff, and pain of getting/setting system state Apr 25 10:01:41 idli: no ETA yet Apr 25 10:01:42 slachta: general framework on top of which different backends can be put, I hope Apr 25 10:01:47 nbd: nods, no worries, just curious Apr 25 10:01:54 slachta: http://git.openwrt.org/?p=project/ucwmp.git;a=summary http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/techref/ucwmp Apr 25 10:04:08 It seems that there are several projects doing almost the same thing (in the term of management and provisioning) :) Apr 25 10:04:22 slachta: which ones? Apr 25 10:04:57 slachta: if you mean remote configuration, sure... there is SNMP, TR-069, probably some else Apr 25 10:05:05 I am going to integrate solution CZ.NIC developed on the top of the libnetconf library. The "NETCONF UCI" solution. Apr 25 10:05:06 slachta: i bet there are many SNMP apps Apr 25 10:05:15 slachta: for TR-069 you don't have too many of them ;) Apr 25 10:05:40 I am talking about NETCONF protocol Apr 25 10:05:45 slachta: "NETCONF UCI"? Apr 25 10:05:58 i mean i know what netconf is but what is netconf uci? Apr 25 10:06:13 at a guess, netconf stuff that manipulates uci ;) Apr 25 10:06:27 idli: your guess is right Apr 25 10:06:43 slachta: do you have more information about that? Apr 25 10:06:43 guess targeting that at the 'generic config system' wouldn't be too bad Apr 25 10:07:01 once nbd finishes design and rubber hits the road (or code git, as the case may be) Apr 25 10:07:02 cyrusff: in short - NETCONF server with storage based on uci Apr 25 10:07:15 so its not public yet? Apr 25 10:07:56 cyrusff: some parts are public, some of them not yet Apr 25 10:08:50 I am in a hurry, so I can't explain it further right now, but it will be announced on mailing list when it comes out Apr 25 10:08:50 slachta: ok, it would be nice if you could get in contact with us Apr 25 10:09:46 slachta: the thing is if you get in contact with us beforehand we could see how we could work together and see how we can meet both our expectations ;) Apr 25 10:09:59 there's some other parties working on netconf too Apr 25 10:10:33 yeah and everybody's doing it differently Apr 25 10:10:35 ;) Apr 25 10:10:50 cyrusff: what is your mail? Apr 25 10:10:56 cyrus@openwrt.org Apr 25 10:14:22 cyrusff: I do not develop those libraries and applications, I am just integrating them to be working on OpenWrt. Those solutions are intended to be used on any linux distribution. Apr 25 10:15:41 slachta: ok anyway if you feel like it, please get in contact with me Apr 25 10:16:16 cyrusff: I am going to ;-) Apr 25 10:16:22 thanks Apr 25 10:17:19 cyrusff: I am not sure if you've spotted the libnetconf library - https://github.com/openwrt-management/packages/blob/master/libnetconf/Makefile Apr 25 10:18:36 hmm not yet Apr 25 10:20:27 this library is developed by CESNET. Another application developed on the top of this library is nuci developed by CZ.NIC organisation which uses in libnetconf UCI as a datastore - https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt-packages/blob/d653b1b9ed7cf475ee0bfc2375bf33c8118b1907/cznic/nuci/Makefile Apr 25 10:22:15 thing is from a first look its not really targetet at embedded (libnetconf that is) Apr 25 10:24:00 libxml2, libxslt, zlib doesn't sound very friendly in terms of size (neither does dbus as optional support) Apr 25 10:24:09 but i guess its aimed at desktop linux for whatever reason Apr 25 10:25:25 however if its overall stable (as it looks) it might be worth examining it if we could debloat it a bit (e.g. use libroxml instead of libxml2 etc.) Apr 25 10:25:39 cyrusff: I know. As I discussed with the main developer of this library, the dependencies are going to be stripped down. Apr 25 10:25:45 nice Apr 25 10:26:31 So if you would love to somehow to participate in debloating this library, I can arrange it. :-) Apr 25 10:27:07 I am generally maintaining the CESNET stuff and integrating it into openwrt to make everyone happy. :) Apr 25 10:28:27 slachta: i would love too, if i weren't so busy with ipv6 stuff still... Apr 25 11:28:57 build #40 of x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed compile_4] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/x86_64/builds/40 Apr 25 11:50:56 build #38 of adm8668 is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/adm8668/builds/38 Apr 25 14:48:42 adri: anything? Apr 25 17:11:47 build #39 of mpc83xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_8] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/mpc83xx/builds/39 Apr 25 17:39:11 build #545 of rb532 is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/rb532/builds/545 Apr 25 17:39:15 build #545 of ppc44x is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/ppc44x/builds/545 Apr 25 17:54:50 blah Apr 25 17:56:07 If I start dnsmasq before pppd, then pppd connects ok, and the interface comes up, but no packets apparently are passed (i.e, ping fails) Apr 25 17:56:17 if I start pppd first, then dnsmasq after, it's all ok. Apr 25 17:56:35 Please speculate on cause, thanks :o Apr 25 18:16:30 build #514 of sibyte is complete: Failure [failed shell shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/sibyte/builds/514 Apr 25 18:28:32 Chocks: do you manually start ppp? Apr 25 18:52:50 I have it in a script, but I can manually start it. I've tried a number of combinations. Apr 25 18:52:53 why do you ask? Apr 25 18:54:46 Chocks: you likely have to add a hook to restart dnsmasq afterwards Apr 25 18:55:01 perhaps. I'd like to know the root cause really Apr 25 18:55:12 Chocks: when it starts, you have no wan - no upstream dns server to reach Apr 25 18:55:28 but that's not enough. I have to entirely kill dnsmasq before I start pppd Apr 25 18:55:45 Chocks: then you have connectivity, but nothing tells dnsmasq that it should check for a parent dns server Apr 25 18:55:47 what of it? This is not a dns problem. At least, I rather doubt it is Apr 25 18:56:18 well, you either have a dns issue (dnsmasq) or connectivity (ping) Apr 25 18:56:24 which one it is? :) Apr 25 18:56:26 I don't have a DNS issue Apr 25 18:56:38 it's connectivity for sure Apr 25 18:56:48 but dnsmasq has nothing to do with that Apr 25 18:56:53 right Apr 25 18:57:05 and so I'm scratching my head. But it's clearly implicated Apr 25 18:57:25 I guess I'll turn off bits in dnsmasq and see if that helps Apr 25 18:57:31 can you pastebin the script? Apr 25 18:57:39 maybe I'll spot something Apr 25 18:57:54 never mind my script. I'm just running pppd manually Apr 25 18:59:28 I have some ideas of stuff to try Apr 25 18:59:34 *grumble* Apr 25 19:18:53 Hmm. What would stop me selecting USB_SUPPORT on the ar71xx target(WDR3600 profile)? I could swear it was selectable when I configured on 7th Apr, and there doesn't appear to be anything committed since then that woudl prevent it. Apr 25 19:29:54 grrr Apr 25 19:55:26 build #38 of brcm2708 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/brcm2708/builds/38 Apr 25 20:05:13 build #39 of cns21xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/cns21xx/builds/39 Apr 25 20:24:37 build #590 of orion is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/orion/builds/590 Apr 25 20:55:03 build #40 of bcm53xx is complete: Failure [failed shell_15] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/bcm53xx/builds/40 Apr 25 21:08:57 build #524 of avr32 is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/avr32/builds/524 Apr 25 22:53:54 build #452 of iop32x is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/iop32x/builds/452 Apr 25 23:14:18 build #503 of ixp4xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/ixp4xx/builds/503 Apr 26 02:02:29 build #133 of mvebu is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/mvebu/builds/133 Apr 26 02:10:10 build #555 of uml is complete: Failure [failed compile_8] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/uml/builds/555 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 26 02:59:58 2014