**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 13 02:59:59 2014 May 13 03:23:58 <5EXAA8SU8> build #638 of brcm63xx is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/brcm63xx/builds/638 May 13 06:52:36 <5EXAA8SU8> build #572 of uml is complete: Failure [failed compile_8] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/uml/builds/572 May 13 07:10:44 russell--, I would like to submit something back May 13 07:10:46 always want May 13 07:10:59 but is too complex for all the work I need to understand first May 13 07:11:50 there are knobs (which i've never used, so i lack specific guidance) for pointing at external kernel source May 13 07:12:24 txomon|fon: if you just want to get something working locally, that might be worth a try May 13 07:13:08 russell--, I found that option in the config about kernel tree overrides, but I wanted something not dependant on the config May 13 07:13:35 maybe I should be patching a diff between the v3.13 and xilinx/master and forget about that May 13 07:49:18 <5EXAA8SU8> build #565 of x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/x86/builds/565 May 13 09:16:04 <5EXAA8SU8> build #161 of mxs is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/mxs/builds/161 May 13 10:11:52 Hauke: did you have a moment to look at my recent OpenWrt patches? May 13 10:12:00 Hauke: mostly there brcm47xx ones May 13 10:12:10 zajec: I will look at them May 13 10:12:10 Hauke: i slightly cleaned image code May 13 10:12:28 Hauke: i know JFFS2 isn't used too often on brcm47xx May 13 10:12:35 I am currently working on the pcie controller of the bcm5301x May 13 10:12:38 but I think it's worth cleaning anyway May 13 10:12:43 before it gets too messy May 13 10:12:45 yes they look good May 13 10:12:51 Hauke: wow, that sounds great! May 13 10:13:00 Hauke: i think i'll need to look at NAND again May 13 10:13:10 PCIe would be great May 13 10:14:00 I pinged [florian] about the nand controller but he does not know the status May 13 10:14:25 ok May 13 10:14:30 it shouldn't be that hard to write after all May 13 10:14:46 (port actually) May 13 10:14:58 (from Broadcom's bloated SDK) May 13 10:25:29 they said the broadcom SDK code relays on the chip being initialized by some other code May 13 10:50:41 huh? May 13 10:50:49 I started writing this NAND driver May 13 10:50:50 I got reading working May 13 10:50:53 without any special magic May 13 11:06:19 that sounds good May 13 11:51:46 how does a package get marked as broken automatically? I've got what I presume is a dependencies problem, but if I enable broken display, it all builds ok, but I have to turn on Broken packages to see them to be chosen May 13 11:52:54 i think it is broken if it depends on another broken package May 13 11:53:55 well, none of htem are explicitly marking them broken, so something must have automatically decided it was broken, that's what I can't work out. May 13 12:19:40 zajec: I got nvram and sprom support working with device tree, currently I am reading some nvram from the mapped serial flash May 13 12:21:34 wow, nice May 13 12:21:37 nvram would be cool May 13 12:28:55 zajec: it looks like it does not use the main nvram but some different one, it uses the wrong mac address May 13 12:29:39 and I can specify a sprom or nvram provider bcma shoudl take May 13 12:30:09 so someone else could write some to provide the bcm63xx sprom May 13 12:34:45 hm May 13 12:34:50 maybe it's some nvram for booting May 13 12:34:59 for CFE and for detecting model May 13 12:35:09 so we can boot, init NAND and read real nvram May 13 12:40:53 zajec: yes I think so May 13 12:41:47 zajec: the phyaddr is correct, so the content looks like a valid nvram ram May 13 12:41:59 but probably the one included in the cfe May 13 12:45:30 is there any easy way to access some memory space (to dump the flash region of the serial flash) May 13 12:46:11 there is no driver so I do not have /dev/mtd*, just the address of the mapped flash May 13 12:53:01 Hello, is someone working on ADSL on a few devices ? May 13 12:53:28 namely Lantiq-based today, mostly, such as Buffalo or TP-W8970 ? May 13 12:54:09 KanjiMonster ^ May 13 12:54:24 jow r40756 trunk/config/Config-images.in * config: don't use /dev/vda2 for kvm guest, its not used since a long time May 13 12:56:49 jow r40757 branches/attitude_adjustment/target/linux/x86/image/Config.in * AA: x86: don't use /dev/vda2 for kvm guest, its not used since a long time May 13 13:05:14 Hauke: i don't think so May 13 13:08:18 root May 13 13:37:59 <5EXAA8SU8> build #455 of gemini is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/gemini/builds/455 May 13 14:16:58 <5EXAA8SU8> build #509 of ar71xx is complete: Failure [failed shell] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/ar71xx/builds/509 May 13 14:18:35 Is there a problem with the OpenWRT SVN trunk server at the moment? May 13 14:33:37 Is anyone here can confirm if the OpenWRT SVN server is dead? May 13 14:38:49 fresh checkout here started just fine May 13 14:39:05 just tried it now May 13 14:39:23 stopped once it started delivering files May 13 14:39:40 Now, it is working. May 13 14:41:53 Now, it is dead again. :( May 13 14:42:39 not here May 13 14:43:06 It is stuck at phone feeds, ATM. May 13 14:47:22 Now, the OpenWRT Forum also looks dead. :( May 13 16:13:07 can anyone point me to how a package would be automatically marked as broken? grepping through scripts/include isn't leading me anywhere. May 13 16:13:38 unrelated: anyone have an avahi service file that will help make a device show up in windows network under >"other devices" in any way? May 13 17:26:11 karlp: 2nd question - there are differences between "avahi"=zeroconf similar to Apple bonjour and what MS uses (UPnP) because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking#Microsoft.27s_UPnP_SSDP ; so you have to provide some UPnP description to get a listing in Windows May 13 17:55:49 <5EXAA8SU8> build #563 of rb532 is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/rb532/builds/563 May 13 18:01:12 <5EXAA8SU8> build #59 of cns21xx is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/cns21xx/builds/59 May 13 18:03:07 <5EXAA8SU8> build #563 of ppc44x is complete: Failure [failed shell shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/ppc44x/builds/563 May 13 18:19:30 I am here once more May 13 18:19:37 trying to achieve the xilinx thing May 13 18:26:39 <5EXAA8SU8> build #566 of x86 is complete: Failure [failed svn compile_9] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/x86/builds/566 May 13 18:31:18 <5EXAA8SU8> build #532 of sibyte is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/sibyte/builds/532 May 13 18:51:00 is it documented which are the options that can appear in a Makefile in May 13 18:51:17 target/linux/zynq/Makefile May 13 18:51:23 (for example) May 13 18:57:21 some are documented at http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/devel/packages May 13 18:59:20 however are some option values that could be obsolete / were only used in like 1 package like for PKG_FIXUP May 13 19:06:50 plntyk: yeah, that's why I was asking what I needed to do specially with the avahi services files to get them to show up somehow/anyhow in windows :) May 13 19:33:08 <5EXAA8SU8> build #58 of mpc83xx is complete: Failure [failed compile_8] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/mpc83xx/builds/58 May 13 19:36:23 plntyk, take into account that I said target/linux May 13 19:36:29 it's supposed to be the kernel... May 13 19:36:44 or does it work as the other? May 13 19:38:16 karlp: http://www.icir.org/gregor/tools/autoconf-protocols.html look at the different ports and ip/multicast adresses - that whole zeroconf is pretty messy - May 13 19:39:27 avahi only implements the bonjour/zeroconf rfc and not the other ones May 13 19:48:25 plntyk: I'm not after link local auto conf though, I'm not asking at all about zeroconf networking. May 13 19:48:42 I'm asking about putting an icon in network neighbourhood like printers and media player services and so on, May 13 19:48:57 I'm just using plain old dhcp for the networking. May 13 19:49:15 karlp: yes but avahi cannot provide it because it does not support that OR windows is not providing a listing mechanism for these avahi devices May 13 19:49:55 I can see the "website" _http._tcp and _ssh._tcp services, and I've tried the _printer._tcp stuff, and I can see my totally fake not-printer in linux, but not in windows May 13 19:51:16 karlp: you need some program in linux to have "SSDP" and avahi does not do it May 13 19:51:43 it doesn't have to be avahi mind you, I'm open to other ways of advertising my device's IP. The problem I'm trying to solve is how to help people "find" a device on their network that is a dhcp client. (we use openwrt as a client, not as a server, so it plugs into an existing network) May 13 19:51:59 is any recommended method to put my ongoing work to ease someone help me? May 13 19:52:31 s/put/put somewhere/ May 13 19:52:41 txomon|home: your work is going to require you to be intimately familiar with board bringup for bare linux, and the openwrt build system, there's very little that anyone's going to be able to say that will help you easily May 13 19:53:02 well, I also accept complex helps =) May 13 19:53:04 if you want to share your work, github or any git hosting service of your choice would be a good start May 13 19:53:22 oki May 13 19:59:05 hi kids May 13 19:59:34 I need to build an initramfs image, as well as the regular imagebuilder stuff. Although the latter will be infrequent. What's the best way to manage this - multiple .configs? May 13 19:59:52 I know you can't build initramfs with imagebuilder May 13 20:03:19 karlp: well you could advertise it with avahi and convert that to windows upnp ? - for avahi and windows there was a chrome extension but it was pulled from the web at http://dnssd.me/ ; or use some upnp service announce in linux if there is one (afaik only media servers there) May 13 20:03:42 it can be a media server if it lets it be findable :) May 13 20:03:51 it can be a printer if it needs to :) May 13 20:04:44 but I've seen some screenshots of people with things in "other devices" and one of the guys at work, his computer advertises his phone sync service May 13 20:13:14 karlp: that phone thing is described at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/821371 - basically stating there was an SSDP sent from the phone to a the multicast IP in your local net - but many linux daemons do not use SSDP probably because its M$ and thats why we cannot have nice things May 13 20:13:15 :) May 13 20:14:00 well, I'd be happy with working out how to advertise a pritner properly so that windows can see it. May 13 20:14:38 because the printers have this nice thing where you can double click to go to the printers web admin page, which is what I'm hoping to get, something along those lines May 13 20:23:04 <5EXAA8SU8> build #57 of adm8668 is complete: Failure [failed shell] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/adm8668/builds/57 May 13 20:24:23 karlp: well http://www.upnp.org/specs/arch/UPnP-arch-DeviceArchitecture-v1.1.pdf contains the format of SSDP messages that will make a printer appear in that list May 13 20:25:19 that you _hope_ will make a printer turn up :) May 13 20:25:20 but probably every linux service will need ssdp binding May 13 20:25:25 but thanks for the link indeed. May 13 20:26:48 well googling after SSDP and IPP (internet printing protocol) reveals that someone used this stuff in production (fuji/xerox) May 13 20:27:19 probably crazy :) May 13 20:29:41 karlp: UPnP defines a profile for a so-called "Basic Device" May 13 20:30:01 but I don't know whether this is sufficient to show up as icon in M$ May 13 20:31:35 mhei: what package do you use to advertise as such? (if it's not possible with just avahi) May 13 20:33:49 avahi is does a great job for the Mac world, but it does not implement UPnP AFAIK. May 13 20:34:17 <5EXAA8SU8> build #542 of avr32 is complete: Failure [failed compile_5] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/avr32/builds/542 May 13 20:34:17 It's still a point on my todo list, but I want to spent a look at: http://pupnp.sourceforge.net May 13 20:34:32 I've only got access to a mac occasioanlly, but I can't seem to find the _http._tcp or _ssh._tcp services in anything on this mac I've played with, May 13 20:34:37 where do the services advertised appear? May 13 20:35:48 karlp: SSH appears in Terminal.app, File > New Remote Connection May 13 20:36:23 the dns-sd tool is very helpful for debugging mDNS on the mac May 13 20:37:03 there is no dns-sd on windows atm :/ May 13 20:38:01 https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action?q=Bonjour%20SDK%20for%20Windows might help May 13 20:38:16 on Mac you do not need to install anything for DNS-SD and mDNS, on M$ you need at least the Bonjour stuff or iTunes May 13 20:39:50 Don't know whether the _http._tcp service appears in the Finder, but .local. should work out-of-the-box on Mac. May 13 20:39:53 mephaust: thanks, just found the ssh service. that's a start, May 13 20:40:17 yeah, hostname.local is workign on windows too, was just hoping to find the "clicky" way to get there May 13 20:41:48 karlp: for HTTP, check out Safari > Preferences > Advanced > Bonjour May 13 20:44:30 mephaust: ok, safara-prefs-bookmarks-> "include bonjour" worked on this mac at least, thanks! would never have found that! May 13 20:44:35 and it's working nicely there too. May 13 21:01:38 <5EXAA8SU8> build #470 of iop32x is complete: Failure [failed shell_10] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/iop32x/builds/470 May 13 21:27:27 <5EXAA8SU8> build #58 of x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed shell] Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org:8010/builders/x86_64/builds/58 May 13 21:57:23 luka r40758 trunk/target/linux/imx6/Makefile * imx6: make boardname consistent with other targets May 13 22:13:18 any reason not to block "