**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 18 03:00:02 2018 Jan 18 17:00:24 what are boards with emmc using for images these days? Jan 18 17:01:28 obviously theres the tarball rootfs but wondering if people are using squashfs + ?? overlay for emmc Jan 18 17:10:00 tharvey: f2fs Jan 18 17:13:11 KanjiMonster: can you point me to a well maintained emmc board for an example of its image config? Jan 18 17:30:32 btrfs Jan 18 17:30:34 (turris omnia) Jan 18 18:02:53 not ubifs? Jan 18 18:04:40 tharvey: mvebu / clearfog (base|pro) Jan 18 18:05:03 or turris omnia, while not yet merged Jan 18 18:09:42 tharvey: squashfs + f2fs overlay is being used Jan 18 18:09:51 to be concrete Jan 18 18:10:41 usually the kernel is in a vfat partition (which is then also used for temporary storage for the backup'd config) Jan 18 18:10:56 depends on how the bootloader expects to boot Jan 18 18:28:01 KanjiMonster: thanks! Jan 18 19:09:39 DonkeyHotei: depends on your hardware. flash translation layer is the difference Jan 18 19:15:41 DonkeyHotei: ubifs is for raw nand. emmc/sdd has FTL as mkresin said Jan 18 19:16:17 ah, so jffs2 = nor, and ubifs = nand Jan 18 19:40:07 DonkeyHotei: right Jan 18 19:47:04 sorry, but why jffs2 = nor ? Jan 18 19:51:07 jffs2 would work also but ubifs is considered the next generation of jffs2 which scales better Jan 18 19:51:18 but I'm no expert; http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/doc/ubifs.html Jan 18 21:26:21 it's not about scaling. nand has some issue which ubi takes care of. Jan 18 21:27:04 for example NAND has a limited amount of write cycles, ubifs takes care wear leveling Jan 18 21:30:06 overall ubifs is way more tolerant reading errors, which can happen due to the unreliability of NAND **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 19 03:00:00 2018