**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 04 03:00:02 2018 Oct 04 03:39:59 stintel: ok ... ? Oct 04 03:40:10 pkgadd: its a frankenstein monster Oct 04 03:47:15 blogic: I remember your remarks about it being seriously overengineered and supporting obscure protocols Oct 04 03:48:37 it's an interesting concept, with the relatively general purpose cores and overriding 'normal' ethernet functionality, but I can easily imagine that be be a nightmare as well (even more so as the whole NSS concept doesn't appear to be intended for mainline) Oct 04 03:51:36 can ipq40xx really perform (better/ just as well/ not significantly worse as ipq806x) without dedicated NSS cores? Oct 04 04:00:35 yes Oct 04 04:01:04 without NSS ipq806x after preoper cpufreq, r/xps and other tweaks will cap at ~650 mbit when firing 512 byte frames Oct 04 04:01:17 NSS can easily go down to 256 byte frames on wire speed Oct 04 04:01:27 so NSS out performes linux by factor 3 Oct 04 04:01:49 i'll hopefully pubish my patches soonish Oct 04 04:02:57 that sounds pretty interesting (personally I'm on VDSL2/ vectoring with 100/40 MBit/s, so the normal untweaked performance is plenty as is) Oct 04 04:03:12 well nss will offload your wifi Oct 04 04:03:32 i managed to hook mac80211 into nss using virtual interfaces Oct 04 04:04:33 o.k., that is another topic - I noticed 100% CPU usage on both ipq8065 cores when stressing the 5 GHz wlan with ~45 MByte/s throughput (~1.2m) using wget with a 6 GB file from a local file server Oct 04 04:05:21 (file server on 1 GBit/s LAN, client using wlan) Oct 04 04:06:06 ipq8 is like anything made by qca a frankenstein Oct 04 04:06:20 i've been playing with ip8 and 4 recently and both are just sad Oct 04 04:06:31 ipq4 can not get a single flow above 420mbit Oct 04 04:06:38 so there are 16 queues and 4 cores Oct 04 04:06:47 a single core cannot get above ~420 mbit Oct 04 04:06:56 so a single flow will never reach wire speed Oct 04 04:07:02 you'll need 3 flow min Oct 04 04:07:11 and then hope that hashing puts the on 3 different cores Oct 04 04:07:28 hmm, considering the price that isn't toooo bad Oct 04 04:07:46 its rather sad that a company the size of qca sells a quad core arm running at a aggregate of 3,6ghz fails to pass even 1/2gbit Oct 04 04:08:12 a bit sad that mt7623 hasn't really taken off, mt7621 feels a bit too marginal on CPU performance (VPN, etc.) to me Oct 04 04:08:23 yep Oct 04 04:10:19 I would have been very interested in the Banana Pi BPI-R2, but unfortunately the onboard wlan card is a bit weak (single antenna) - and with only one mini-PCIe slots for a second card, there isn't really an option to improve that Oct 04 04:10:46 the builtin wifi was created for pure site survey Oct 04 04:11:01 the idea was to allow the SoC to scan wifi without using an external card Oct 04 04:11:06 why ever ... Oct 04 04:12:36 that is all fine, but in that case it really needs the ability to take two good wlan cards - while I don't want to miss speeds 5 GHz, I also still depend on good 2.4 GHz performance (both for old devices and indoor range) Oct 04 07:53:07 blogic: looks like it, after reverting 7af1fb9faafbc842fc727c49108f5fc4edc08601 10h35m, with that patch it crashed sometimes in minutes Oct 04 07:53:18 blogic: https://pastebin.com/vT5wTejR Oct 04 07:57:16 weird Oct 04 07:57:21 ok, revert my patch in that case Oct 04 08:42:44 stintel: humour me, try with the 'no-split-gso' option on cake. Oct 04 08:47:48 I'm wondering what happens to the skb->hash field when cake splits gso packets into individual new skbs and how that could affect balancer. Oct 04 08:52:32 blogic: sorry about not testing that patch earlier :( Oct 04 08:52:37 ldir: how? Oct 04 08:55:03 https://pastebin.com/UVy4U5E5 Oct 04 08:56:07 aha, ty Oct 04 08:56:08 check the options applied with 'tc -s qdisc show dev $your_net_device.. eth2?' Oct 04 08:59:28 qdisc cake 8018: root refcnt 9 bandwidth 120Mbit diffserv3 triple-isolate nonat nowash no-ack-filter no-split-gso rtt 100.0ms raw overhead 0 Oct 04 08:59:34 still slow :( Oct 04 09:00:10 qdisc cake 8022: root refcnt 2 bandwidth 200Mbit besteffort triple-isolate nonat wash no-ack-filter no-split-gso rtt 100.0ms raw overhead 0 Oct 04 09:00:35 Harrumph Oct 04 09:04:38 Convention pointers on: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/1429 ? Oct 04 09:35:10 care to elaborate? there doesn't seem to be any questions in the pr. longer sentence might make your desires clearer Oct 04 10:13:04 barhom: both commits lack a signed off, the envtools commit has a typo in its subject Oct 04 10:13:17 barhom: also please write a short commit message explaining the motivation Oct 04 10:13:53 e.g. "ipq40xx: uboot-envtools configuration for GL.iNet GL-B1300 Oct 04 10:14:37 This commit adds the nescessary settings to allow manipulating the uboot environment on the GL.iNet GL-B1300 board." Oct 04 10:15:19 and "ipq40xx: make uboot env writable on the GL.iNet GL-B1300 board. Oct 04 10:15:26 Thats for the pointers Oct 04 10:15:43 Is it common that you allow read-write on u-boot or is it usually default to read-only? Oct 04 10:15:52 Make the APPSBLENV partition writable to prepare support uboot-envtools in a later commit." Oct 04 10:16:30 I think the convention was read-only unless there is a need for write access (e.g. for toggling a boot counter on dual boot / fallback bootloaders) Oct 04 10:24:16 jow: I have updated the pull request Oct 04 10:28:08 huh, I'm misunderstanding this, I wanna depend on GLIBC for a package, +USE_GLIBC isn't enough, can I just do +GLIBC? Oct 04 10:32:47 depend or select? Oct 04 10:41:38 depend I guess Oct 04 13:15:54 hi Oct 04 13:17:51 jwh: if you want to depend, omit the "+". DEPENDS:=@USE_GLIBC Oct 04 13:18:27 also use @ to refer to arbitray config symbols (CONFIG_USE_GLIBC => @USE_GLIBC) Oct 04 13:43:17 jow: ah cool, thanks Oct 04 14:27:50 I don't know if it's true or Not. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies Oct 04 14:33:32 hmmmmm Oct 04 14:40:05 so, scripts/target-metadata.pl Oct 04 14:42:11 the German government in general has stated what computer in the equipment imported into Germany should be delivered with a backdoor that intelligence agencies could when they have to take information necessary for themselves Oct 04 14:43:25 all this doesn't surprise me Oct 04 14:46:06 I have questions. For example what words are missing in that sentence. Oct 04 14:50:27 tommie: :D Oct 04 14:51:13 could be a hoax, all involved companies denied this Oct 04 14:53:43 ь Oct 04 14:54:07 ё Oct 04 15:08:22 hi, I like to debug luci-app-openvpn Oct 04 15:08:47 how can I inspect values in luci luad modules? Oct 04 15:31:18 sooooo, logd streaming, its not syslog right? Oct 04 15:32:05 logread -f Oct 04 15:32:17 I meant in the remote context, sorry Oct 04 15:34:22 https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/base-system/log.essentials#network_logging Oct 04 15:34:25 that bit Oct 04 15:35:31 oh looks like I can just nc it Oct 04 15:35:37 that makes it easier to make a nice parser Oct 04 15:36:11 question is now, is if it will do v Oct 04 15:36:12 v6 Oct 04 15:36:34 12heh, I like how someone had to add a firewall rules for lan to that page Oct 04 15:36:56 lol yeah Oct 04 15:37:01 just in case you forgot Oct 04 15:41:56 mkresin, ping Oct 04 15:47:00 jwh: well, it doesnt firewall lan by defualt Oct 04 15:47:08 oh yeah good point lol Oct 04 15:47:17 sothat's someone adding wiki firewall rules that you don't need unless you've screwed things up yourself. Oct 04 15:47:51 sooo, I wonder if I could write a quick listener to dump out the logs in a nice web 2.0 friendly format Oct 04 15:48:14 it won't make the log messages themselves any friendlier.... Oct 04 15:48:18 heh Oct 04 15:48:33 but I could just post it to http (I know, just kill me already) Oct 04 15:48:34 you just want it to be live? Oct 04 15:48:38 yeah Oct 04 15:48:44 meh, just refresh the page. Oct 04 15:48:47 lol Oct 04 15:49:01 I'm adding it to the other ubus dumps I'm posting Oct 04 15:49:10 so I can catch patterns like when things go wron Oct 04 15:49:10 g Oct 04 15:49:17 "it's not working" Oct 04 15:49:32 "yeah you unplugged it, moron" Oct 04 15:50:47 need way more overview of whats going on than I currently have, so.... Oct 04 16:06:14 Anyone know if Mike Flynn is still active? Trying to get approval for https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/6847 … fairly trivial fix. Oct 04 16:06:31 It's not 6 weeks old and I've not heard back from the maintainer. Oct 04 16:06:36 * It's now Oct 04 16:06:56 blogic: Can you throw an eyeball on it? Oct 04 16:10:53 jow: got a question about PR #1419 and why /lib/functions.sh needs to use kmodloader rather than something more generic/portable Oct 04 16:11:19 looks like /lib/libfstools.so also depends on kmodloader… Oct 04 16:12:30 ? Oct 04 16:12:45 what is kmodloader and why do we need it? Oct 04 16:13:28 kmodloader is a small replacement for modprobe -a which does not require a depdendency cache Oct 04 16:13:31 I'm trying to set up busybox/ubox/kmod so that any of the 3 can be used to select which rmmod/insmod/etc you can use… but it seems that they're not interchangeable. Oct 04 16:14:04 ah… that would be the modules.dep file? Oct 04 16:14:10 correct Oct 04 16:15:10 so… to get kmod working instead, I'd (a) need to generate a modules.dep file and (b) replace kmodloader with "modprobe -a"? Oct 04 16:15:24 more or less Oct 04 16:15:31 hmmm…. Oct 04 16:16:03 can you have a quick look at 6847? also, what's going on with the UEFI stuff? is that ever going to merge? Oct 04 16:16:33 6847 looks odd to me Oct 04 16:16:42 this is something that should happen in a generic manner Oct 04 16:16:49 and any opinion about whether tarpitting is good or not? I like the idea of 1M+ OpenWrt routers tying up botnets with hung connections… Oct 04 16:16:57 odd how? Oct 04 16:17:59 The problem it's trying to fix is that doing an update (via opkg install) of syslog-ng doesn't cause the server to restart and hence the new conf file be reread. Oct 04 16:19:30 why not just put a reload into postinst then? Oct 04 16:20:08 It would need to be a restart… to get a re-exec of the new binaries. Oct 04 16:21:36 ah the init script is not procd enabled, otherwise this would happen automatically Oct 04 16:21:49 well I do not understand the need for removing the init symlink Oct 04 16:23:28 also default_prerm() of /lib/functions.sh looks as if it should already take care of the problem Oct 04 16:23:41 if it does not we should probably figure out why Oct 04 16:25:00 my archer C7(v5) suddenly started to lose eth0.1(WAN), wireless is always accessible but I could not ping internet until /etc/init.d/network restart Oct 04 16:26:20 i could run a cron-job to check ping then restart network when ping failed multiple times, is there a better way to cope with this resume-of-internet thing existed? https://github.com/br101/pingcheck just found this and never used it Oct 04 16:28:00 ausjke, is it true the antennae are not detachable on the v5? Oct 04 16:36:14 ntd: sorry it's v4, detachable Oct 04 21:46:16 nbd: just fyi, the mt7688 devices I have (the linkit and the asiarf awm688) are still both having trouble maintaining a client mode connection to most of the access points I have to test against. the mt7628 on the same openwrt commit (recent master branch) in a gl-mt300n-v2 seems to work fine (e.g. ping -c600 4.2.2.2 without a lost packet) Oct 04 21:47:45 most recently tested is 8217-g2cc821e7ed Oct 05 01:46:52 zbt1326 with the newest 18.06 built went into a reboot-loop that never stops: https://pastebin.com/Cqy2P5g1 Oct 05 01:47:36 it worked fine for a while under some ssh traffic, then it went out of control Oct 05 01:47:46 s/a while/2 hours/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 05 03:00:01 2018