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Oct 28 04:03:47 <blogic> mangix: :-)
Oct 28 04:03:57 <blogic> read the mail before seeing this
Oct 28 04:19:13 <gch981213> About the kernel module stripping: Someone mentioned this problem on the mailing list about half a year ago but there is no reply to that mail: https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2018-February/011085.html
Oct 28 06:08:41 * mangix just found out most RTC chips do time in 32-bit. mind blown.
Oct 28 06:09:54 <SwedeMike> nice, so I guess we'll see some heuristics about software compiled after 2020 or something, will just overflow into the future when it sees a date before 2020 (or whatever is chosen)
Oct 28 06:10:04 <SwedeMike> no reason for software in 2020 to believe that it's 1970
Oct 28 06:10:57 <mangix> Guess so. still unfortunate. tear 2038 problem is bigger than I thought
Oct 28 06:11:33 <SwedeMike> GPS system has even bigger problem, so it already uses heuristics to determine what part of their epoch it is. I think someone said it's 10-20 years or something
Oct 28 06:13:13 <SwedeMike> trying to verify this, it was harder than I thought
Oct 28 06:21:06 <SwedeMike> "Since rollover occurs every 1,024 GPS weeks (approximately every 19.6 years; 1,024 is 210), a receiver that computes current calendar dates needs to deduce the upper week number bits or obtain them from a different source."
Oct 28 06:21:47 <SwedeMike> so I guess a similar approach can be used for 32bit RTC
Oct 28 07:26:32 <russell--> rmilecki: the ubifs patch worked for me on an erx
Oct 28 08:02:19 <russell--> rmilecki: tried it on mr24 and rb493g, worked there too.
Oct 28 08:34:46 <rmilecki> russell--: wow, i didn't notice it yet!
Oct 28 08:35:02 <rmilecki> russell--: i'll test it right after the summit
Oct 28 09:31:44 <f00b4r0> ldir: ping?
Oct 28 11:34:51 <ldir> f00b4r0: yes dear?
Oct 28 11:57:40 * ldir waits some more for his delayed flight to Lisbon
Oct 28 12:00:12 <Borromini> ldir: holidays?
Oct 28 12:00:36 <ldir> openwrt conference!
Oct 28 12:01:03 <jwh> heh
Oct 28 12:01:12 <jwh> im arriving tonight
Oct 28 12:01:21 <jwh> in frankfurt atm
Oct 28 12:01:28 <jwh> this place is grim
Oct 28 12:01:30 <ldir> jwh: at this rate...so will I :-)
Oct 28 12:01:33 <jwh> lol
Oct 28 12:01:44 <jwh> got 6 hours to kill
Oct 28 12:01:53 <jwh> first stop... mcdonalds
Oct 28 12:01:55 <ldir> in an airport?
Oct 28 12:02:01 <jwh> im in the city noe
Oct 28 12:02:03 <jwh> now
Oct 28 12:03:07 <jwh> just got off the train at central station
Oct 28 12:03:33 <Borromini> ldir: hehe. forgot :P
Oct 28 12:03:45 <jwh> cant wait to get home,  prague isnt this grim lol
Oct 28 12:03:51 <Borromini> jwh: layover? where are you flying in from?
Oct 28 12:03:57 <Borromini> you made it a stop?
Oct 28 12:03:57 <jwh> birmingham uk
Oct 28 12:04:00 <jwh> yeah
Oct 28 12:04:18 * ldir does a double take
Oct 28 12:04:30 <Borromini> ok
Oct 28 12:04:31 <ldir> where you are at the moment is *worse* than Birmingham?
Oct 28 12:04:34 <jwh> the munich one sold out
Oct 28 12:04:39 <jwh> yes
Oct 28 12:04:55 <Borromini> i didn't mind frankfurt airport too much but then again i had to rush it
Oct 28 12:05:28 <ldir> Apparently Belgium is on strike.
Oct 28 12:06:04 <Borromini> we are, apparently we're a more like france than we like sometimes
Oct 28 12:06:13 <Borromini> is that affecting you atm ldir ?
Oct 28 12:06:18 <jwh> there werent any direct flights today, so i had to stop
Oct 28 12:06:22 <Borromini> work was shit on friday (i work at a travel agency)
Oct 28 12:06:34 <ldir> Borromini: not that I know... but I'll blame them anyway ;-)
Oct 28 12:06:41 <Borromini> hehe
Oct 28 12:06:47 <Borromini> luggage handling is on strike
Oct 28 12:06:48 <jwh> 3 hours to lisbon, then back via frankfurt to prague on wednesday
Oct 28 12:07:02 <jwh> but only an hour layover
Oct 28 12:07:08 <Borromini> long live the EU thinking going liberal on anything works wonders.
Oct 28 12:07:12 <jwh> heh
Oct 28 12:07:13 <Borromini> jwh: that's enough for FRA
Oct 28 12:07:18 <jwh> yeah
Oct 28 12:07:43 <Borromini> jwh: luggage handling is done with tenders, but it's the same companies competing every few years; and they just take over one another's personnel
Oct 28 12:07:52 <jwh> i walked out of central station and thought id gone to the wrong country
Oct 28 12:07:58 <Borromini> of course, with worse pay every time
Oct 28 12:08:01 <jwh> heh
Oct 28 12:08:04 <jwh> unions!
Oct 28 12:08:07 <Borromini> how so? frankfurt hauptbahnhof?
Oct 28 12:08:10 <jwh> yeah
Oct 28 12:08:13 <Borromini> hehe
Oct 28 12:08:30 <Borromini> my gf has to fly today... from brussels
Oct 28 12:08:41 <ldir> ah
Oct 28 12:08:44 <jwh> looked pretty run down on the way too
Oct 28 12:08:59 <jwh> train was nice thougg
Oct 28 12:09:02 <jwh> though
Oct 28 12:09:03 <jow> frankfurt is ugly
Oct 28 12:09:36 <jow> at least the central station/downtown area
Oct 28 12:09:42 <Borromini> :)
Oct 28 12:09:48 <Borromini> frankfurt is a rich town though no
Oct 28 12:09:55 <Borromini> i was there a few weeks ago
Oct 28 12:10:00 <Borromini> took the ICE from brussels
Oct 28 12:10:10 <jow> richness ins in the outskirts and the banking towers
Oct 28 12:10:16 <Borromini> yeah i figured so.
Oct 28 12:10:29 <jwh> yeah i figured that
Oct 28 12:11:00 <jow> munich central station looks quite ratty as well, and this is the arguably the richest and most expensive city in germany
Oct 28 12:11:50 <jwh> the station itself isnt so bad
Oct 28 12:12:43 <jwh> need to find a bar now :D
Oct 28 12:13:18 * ldir goes offline for a few hours - apparently I have a plane to catch
Oct 28 12:13:25 <jwh> later
Oct 28 12:14:27 <Borromini> enjoy
Oct 28 12:15:30 <jwh> does lisbon have a metro or anything?
Oct 28 12:16:37 <Borromini> https://www.metrolisboa.pt/eng
Oct 28 12:16:39 <Borromini> ^^
Oct 28 12:17:00 <Borromini> well correct english link seems to be https://www.metrolisboa.pt/en/
Oct 28 12:17:10 <jwh> thank you sir
Oct 28 12:18:15 <jwh> alright, beer
Oct 28 12:19:16 <Borromini> yw
Oct 28 13:48:20 <Tapper> jwh brum in the UK is shitty!
Oct 28 15:51:44 <swalker> updated openwrt/upstream, https://sdwalker.github.io/uscan/index.html
Oct 28 17:49:06 <yanosz> Hello folks. atm I'm wondering, if anybody has used VRF on OpenWRT. https://openwrt.org/start?do=search&id=start&q=VRF isn't that helpful :-/
Oct 28 17:50:21 <yanosz> https://cumulusnetworks.com/blog/vrf-for-linux/ - twimc
Oct 28 17:50:33 <yanosz> is there anything in i.e. netifd?
Oct 28 19:07:35 <vk496> Hi!
Oct 28 19:08:19 <jwh> yanosz: no, i was looking to add it but i just dont have time
Oct 28 19:08:57 <vk496> I have a device with only one partition called Kernel. When I try to flash the -squashfs.bin image into that partition, OpenWrt can't find the rootfs
Oct 28 19:09:02 <vk496> I get this:
Oct 28 19:09:03 <vk496> [    4.532737] VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0): error -6
Oct 28 19:09:04 <vk496> [    4.547641] Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions:
Oct 28 19:09:04 <vk496> [    4.564279] 1f00             192 mtdblock0
Oct 28 19:09:04 <vk496> [    4.564286]  (driver?)
Oct 28 19:09:04 <vk496> [    4.577282] 1f01              64 mtdblock1
Oct 28 19:09:04 <vk496> [    4.577287]  (driver?)
Oct 28 19:09:06 <vk496> [    4.590285] 1f02              64 mtdblock2
Oct 28 19:09:08 <vk496> [    4.590291]  (driver?)
Oct 28 19:09:12 <vk496> [    4.603300] 1f03           16000 mtdblock3
Oct 28 19:09:14 <vk496> [    4.603306]  (driver?)
Oct 28 19:09:16 <vk496> [    4.616300] 1f04              64 mtdblock4
Oct 28 19:09:18 <vk496> [    4.616305]  (driver?)
Oct 28 19:09:20 <vk496> [    4.629305] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
Oct 28 19:09:41 <jwh> does the dts for your device describe the partitions?
Oct 28 19:09:47 <jwh> also, pastebins
Oct 28 19:09:48 <vk496> I need to flash initramfs and after, the squashfs
Oct 28 19:10:38 <vk496> jwh: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/1473/files
Oct 28 19:11:10 <vk496> I would like to improve the PR and add a -factory.bin image
Oct 28 19:11:14 <jwh> are they right?
Oct 28 19:11:18 <vk496> yes
Oct 28 19:11:22 <vk496> the same as original
Oct 28 19:11:25 <jwh> ldir: did you make it?
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> dev:    size   erasesize  name
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> mtd0: 01000000 00010000 "ALL"
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> mtd1: 00030000 00010000 "Bootloader"
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> mtd2: 00010000 00010000 "Config"
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> mtd3: 00010000 00010000 "Factory"
Oct 28 19:12:05 <vk496> mtd4: 00fa0000 00010000 "Kernel"
Oct 28 19:12:07 <vk496> mtd5: 00010000 00010000 "Second_Config"
Oct 28 19:12:45 <jwh> if the flash driver works then there must be a reason the partitions dont
Oct 28 19:12:58 <russell--> vk496: usually you tftpboot the initramfs, you don't flash it.
Oct 28 19:13:44 <vk496> russell: Yes. But to install the OpenWrt, is the only way
Oct 28 19:13:50 <vk496> on this device
Oct 28 19:14:18 <russell--> what device?
Oct 28 19:14:22 <vk496> Strong 1200
Oct 28 19:14:33 <vk496> https://forum.openwrt.org/t/support-for-strong-1200/22768
Oct 28 19:18:29 <jwh> figure out the vendor firmware and generate compatible upgrade images
Oct 28 19:18:32 <jwh> :D
Oct 28 19:20:10 <vk496> Tried last days with no success... They "combine" kernel and rootfs in the same image
Oct 28 19:20:26 <vk496> And don't know how to do like that in OpenWrt
Oct 28 19:44:15 <philipp64> when are we going to 4.15?  seems like we've been on 4.14 for ages…
Oct 28 19:48:14 <KanjiMonster> philipp64: never, as 4.15 is already EOL since april
Oct 28 19:50:09 <Slimey> hmm
Oct 28 19:54:09 <KanjiMonster> philipp64: next release will use 4.14 again (this time for everyone), release after that will use a newer kernel (maybe 4.19, which is currently the next LTS one)
Oct 28 19:56:46 <Slimey> when i clone https://github.com/danielg4/openwrt.git i dont have anyother branches like i used to, just master, is it because of "This branch has conflicts that must be resolved"
Oct 28 20:22:04 <philipp64> KanjiMonster: so it sounds like 4.19 (and xtables-addons 3.1) are a long way off.
Oct 28 20:23:52 <philipp64> Slimey: I don't understand.  Is this a fresh cloning into a NEW workspace?  Or are you adding this repo into an existing cloning, in which case you should have done "git remote add danielg4 https://github.com/danielg4/openwrt.git" and then cherry-picked from there, or checkout'd branches from there.
Oct 28 22:58:12 <jwh> lisbon i am in you
Oct 28 23:54:53 <spacewrench> Does anybody still do dynamic routing these days?  I have 3-4 routers around my house, with ethernets and wifi.  There's enough devices that it would be nice to have them discover each other and announce their subnets automatically.
Oct 28 23:55:33 <spacewrench> Back In The Day, we did this with RIP and OSPF.  OSPF is too much hassle for my little home network; is there anything better than RIP?
Oct 29 00:04:37 <Slimey> eigrp ;)
Oct 29 00:09:56 <spacewrench> quagga?
Oct 29 00:10:52 <spacewrench> looks like the right thing.
Oct 29 00:11:14 <spacewrench> A system with Quagga installed acts as a dedicated router. With Quagga, your machine exchanges routing information with other routers using routing protocols. Quagga uses this information to update the kernel routing table so that the right data goes to the right place. You can dynamically change the configuration and you may view routing table information from the Quagga terminal interface.
Oct 29 00:53:08 <biangbiangmian> Hello, are there still issues with MT76 wifi in master?
Oct 29 00:54:00 <biangbiangmian> mangix
Oct 29 02:11:38 <russell--> rmilecki: the second patch doesn't compile when applied to 4.14 because a recent upstream change to the ubifs_assert() interface, i tweaked the patch and it also fixes the problem as i observed.
Oct 29 02:13:20 <russell--> biangbiangmian: i have some problems in station mode on mt7688
Oct 29 02:37:35 <biangbiangmian> I lost my 5GHz wifi from sysfs after enabling it
Oct 29 02:43:28 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wlan1
Oct 29 02:43:28 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:02:00.0/net/wlan1
Oct 29 02:43:28 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wlan0
Oct 29 02:43:29 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0/0000:01:00.0/net/wlan0
Oct 29 02:43:31 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wlan1
Oct 29 02:43:33 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:02:00.0/net/wlan1
Oct 29 02:43:35 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wwan0/
Oct 29 02:43:37 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/platform/1e1c0000.xhci/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.8/net/wwan0
Oct 29 02:44:09 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wlan0
Oct 29 02:44:09 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:00.0/0000:01:00.0/net/wlan0
Oct 29 02:44:09 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wlan1
Oct 29 02:44:11 <biangbiangmian> realpath: /sys/class/net/wlan1: No such file or directory
Oct 29 02:44:13 <biangbiangmian> root@openwrt:~# realpath /sys/class/net/wwan0
Oct 29 02:44:15 <biangbiangmian> /sys/devices/platform/1e1c0000.xhci/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.8/net/wwan0
Oct 29 02:48:43 <philipp64> spacewrench: this is what OSPF stub networks are for.
Oct 29 02:49:43 <philipp64> jwh: is lisbon consenting?
Oct 29 02:51:52 <mangix> biangbiangmian: i don't use mt76 hardware anymore
Oct 29 02:52:05 <mangix> the whole platform is a mess
Oct 29 02:52:22 <mangix> maybe it will get better once the port to 4.19 starts
Oct 29 02:52:29 <mangix> I'm not holding my breath
Oct 29 02:53:13 <biangbiangmian> what else is wrong with it besides wireless?
Oct 29 02:55:36 <biangbiangmian> i had 5GHz running over the weekend fine, come in this morning connect to it, then a few minutes later it goes down
Oct 29 02:55:50 <biangbiangmian> never to be seen again, ostensibly
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