**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 30 02:59:57 2019 Apr 30 08:18:19 Anyone know of errors in the build on arch? Apr 30 09:23:27 I guess you do? Apr 30 09:27:03 not anymore Apr 30 09:27:21 no problem then :) Apr 30 09:27:41 I kept re-reading the requirements but couldnt figure out what i was missing until I noticed the V=99 said python 2 interpreter Apr 30 09:27:59 im on arch so python is the standard pkg Apr 30 09:28:09 you need to install python2 Apr 30 10:16:43 I notice that in kmodloader it assumes the first two bytes should be 0x1985 for JFFS2. But this isn't necessarily true as it maybe mounted later in nand partition. Is this assumption correct? Apr 30 10:17:43 Sorry that was brain fart I meant mount_root not kmodloader Apr 30 11:42:33 jow: ping on https://github.com/openwrt-routing/packages/pull/467 Apr 30 12:36:48 May I know, why kmod-usb-storage isn't preinstalled on Xiaomi Mir3G? Honestly, it doesn't make any sense for a user not to have it there. The router has USB 3.0. Why would you use it for it? Oh.. right! As storage. Without it, you inserted the USB flash drive and it doesn't work. It doesn't have a driver for the mass storage. If there isn't any valid reason, I will send a patch for it. Apr 30 12:39:21 Pepe: For most embedded devices there isn't usb-drivers in openwrt image preinstalled... because they take space and even more so we don't know what a user wants to plug in and vertainly we can't ship with all and every usb-device driver there is... Apr 30 12:39:35 hence user can install whatever is needed Apr 30 12:40:17 there is no point of bloating the base openwrt image... as said one can then install "whatever" or more advanced peoples can compile their own set of stuff Apr 30 12:41:37 olmari: I don't agree with your reason. E.g. for mvebu devices it is enabled in kernel config - https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/blob/master/target/linux/mvebu/config-4.14#L481 Apr 30 12:41:40 What you said it's awful experience for users. I'm fully aware that some devices doesn't have enough space, but Xiaomi Mir3G has 256MB. The .ipk has almost 24kB. Don't try to tell me that it won't fit to preinstalled image! Apr 30 12:42:45 awful experience... if user is smart enough to even get openwrt I bet user is also smart enough to appreciate opkg ;P Apr 30 12:42:56 looks like a nice timing https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kvalo/wireless-drivers-next.git/commit/?h=pending&id=284d1e4e3311cfe67c1c57ccc275ff0f5666aeea -> https://www.8devices.com/products/komikan Apr 30 12:42:59 There is just preinstlaled kmod-usb3, there should be also kmod-usb-storage. You expect that if you plug any mass storage to your router, which you bought that it will work without a hassle! Apr 30 12:43:22 sure, you can make pull-request, devs then take it or not, which isn't my problem :P Apr 30 12:43:43 I will do it. Your reasoning is just bad. Apr 30 12:46:06 general reasoning is that sort... but also where does it stop? someone allways wnats something more... but that's why installable packages system is awesome, somehting pretty much nothing sitll has other than openwrt :) Apr 30 12:48:46 I use only USB SDR radios! Apr 30 12:49:09 :) Apr 30 12:50:26 why stop at kmod-usb-storage? why not rtl-sdr? why not serial? why not atmel-programmer? so on :) also.. even if support for storage-devices itself are there, one still needs more to make use of it in openwrt in any meaningful way, be it simple extroot or more "advanced" samba-nfs-sharing... Apr 30 12:50:31 With your reasoning, would you tell me, why mvebu has it enabled in kernel config, but mt7621 doesn't have it? Did you see what I'm trying to tell you and you still don't want to understand it? Is 24kB really large for 256MB device? I doubt it. Everywhere for this router is advertised that it should be used for storage and someone from OpenWrt is trying to invent the wheel. USB flash drives or HDD are Apr 30 12:50:34 these days common and you really expect that user will insert it to router and what he sees? Yes. It doesn't work! It's crap. Apr 30 12:51:29 that sort of user haven't heard of openwrt at frist place usually... and again, there is package manager... how stupid user needs to be not use such thing? Apr 30 12:51:59 olmari: You must be kidding me. :-D RTL-SDR are common like usb flash drivers, right? Fuck it. I'm going to send patch and don't argue with you. You didn't answered why it is enabled in mvebu, but arguing with non senses. Apr 30 12:52:27 well, you should probably calm down Apr 30 12:53:16 I don't know why it is enabled in one and not in other, I didn't claim should it or should it not.. I stated general reasoning why stuff is how they is :) Apr 30 12:53:28 https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/storage/usb-drives Apr 30 12:55:52 I think, that usb-storage is just a beginning, then they'll scream, I've plugged in USB flash disk with NTFS filesystem and it doesn't work!!!!! Apr 30 12:59:04 also mvebu doens't seem to have many filesystems baked in, so it will ofcourse regonize the usb-storage, but not commonly used FSes Apr 30 13:00:44 The thing I don't get is how user can be smart enough to get openwrt and suddenly drop all drops of sense when getting hold of USB-stick... My gripe with the opposite reasoning :) Apr 30 13:32:33 there's also the tiny additional problem that the mir3g is particulary sensitive to USB3 induced interference Apr 30 16:19:08 jow: I like to test a few opkg changes. I added git-src and enabled source tree override, but now the build fails with "xzcat: /home/mwarning/openwrt/dl/opkg-2019-01-31-d4ba162b.tar.xz: No such file or directory" Apr 30 16:19:14 did I miss something? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 01 02:59:57 2019