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May 07 08:28:26 <jeffsf_> Is there already an upgrade utility function to confirm that a given mtd partition name is `nor`-based?
May 07 08:44:38 <rmilecki> jow: do you have any idea what may be causing that for me?
May 07 08:44:44 <rmilecki> [   21.634918] xt_conntrack: cannot load conntrack support for proto=2                                                                                                                                                                                                    [   21.648915] xt_conntrack: cannot load conntrack support for proto=10
May 07 08:46:33 <rmilecki> earlier i modified include/netfilter.mk but now I reverted all my changs
May 07 08:48:40 <rmilecki> i already tried rm -fR tmp build_dir/target-arm_cortex-a9_musl_eabi/linux-bcm53xx/
May 07 09:03:19 <rmilecki> fixed by rm -fR tmp build_dir/target-arm_cortex-a9_musl_eabi/
May 07 13:48:08 <wbddwokl> friends, if someone has a bit of free time, please give advice, https://forum.openwrt.org/t/asus-rt-n66u-usb-modem-4g-openvpn-daemon-err-openvpn-1071-connection-reset-restarting-0/36539
May 07 14:13:13 <aparcar[m]> ynezz could you please have a look at https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/1095497/
May 07 14:57:49 <gch981213> ynezz: It seems that dts is missing in https://git.openwrt.org/?p=openwrt/staging/ynezz.git;a=commitdiff;h=95f1ca083c7f3e9595da5e3c0e90d1d248c65841
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May 07 17:25:19 <brucethompson> Got a question about python2.7 install in Openwrt
May 07 17:25:57 <cotequeiroz> hitech95:  I hope I'm not just adding to your confusion, but it may be worth looking at how cryptodev-linux does it.  It is a module built from outside kernel source.
May 07 17:26:02 <brucethompson> For some reason, in /usr/lib/python2.7 there are no source files
May 07 17:26:55 <brucethompson> No *.py; only *.pyc. On all other Linux installations, the python install includes *.py.
May 07 17:27:27 <brucethompson> Is this a "feature"?
May 07 17:27:54 <cotequeiroz> hitech95: See the openwrt Makefile at package/kernel/cryptodev-linux/Makefile, and also the package's Makefile, as in your case, you're building kernel modules from outside the kernel source.
May 07 17:28:26 <hitech95> cotequeiroz: I'm watching it, thanks! that one is a quite similar example!
May 07 17:29:18 <cotequeiroz> brucethompson: The sources as usually packaged separately. e.g. python-qrcode, and qython-qrcode-src
May 07 17:30:20 <cotequeiroz> *python
May 07 17:31:25 <brucethompson> OK Let me check
May 07 17:32:43 <brucethompson> Oh. I understand python packages have a "package-src" package.
May 07 17:32:59 <brucethompson> But I am talking about the python2.7 package itself
May 07 17:33:09 <brucethompson> I could not find a python2.7-src
May 07 17:34:37 <brucethompson> FYI. I have 14 new python modules ported to OpenWrt now.
May 07 17:43:40 <cotequeiroz> I guess I have never tried python itself...
May 07 17:49:05 <brucethompson> OK. I have a python program (tahoe-lafs) that for some reason looks to see that the python2.7 source files are install in /usr/lib
May 07 17:49:08 <cotequeiroz> Have you tried python-base-src, and python-light-src?
May 07 17:49:17 <brucethompson> I have not
May 07 17:49:23 <brucethompson> Let me try
May 07 17:51:10 <brucethompson> Looks like it was python-light-src!!!
May 07 17:51:31 <brucethompson> It contains the sources for python
May 07 17:52:02 <cotequeiroz> I think the 'python' package just aggregates python-light, python-base and almost all modules from the main python sources, which are packaged separately.
May 07 17:53:50 <brucethompson> Got it. In any case, it worked!!
May 07 17:54:04 <cotequeiroz> :)
May 07 17:54:10 <brucethompson> And like I mentioned before, I have 14 new python packages ported.
May 07 17:54:37 <brucethompson> I will still need to do a full build to make sure everything is correct.
May 07 17:55:39 <cotequeiroz> Good luck.
May 07 18:01:14 <jeffsf> brucethompson: Are you aware that Python 2 is EOLed and OpenWrt is following suit?
May 07 18:02:11 <jeffsf> https://forum.openwrt.org/t/python-2-end-of-life-and-the-packages-feed/36338
May 07 18:02:53 <cotequeiroz> I was about to mention that.
May 07 18:03:56 <brucethompson> Sure.
May 07 18:04:21 <brucethompson> The tahoe-lafs team is working on getting it to work with Python3
May 07 18:04:27 <brucethompson> But not yet.
May 07 18:04:53 <brucethompson> And all the packages I ported have both python2.7 and python3 sections in the Makefile
May 07 18:05:09 <brucethompson> I just have not build all then python3 variants yet.
May 07 18:05:20 <cotequeiroz> The "hard" deadline for python2 package inclusion is May 31.   From now until then, you may argue "a strong reason" to add them.
May 07 18:06:19 <brucethompson> If no one wants them, then I keep them to myself
May 07 18:06:31 <cotequeiroz> Sure.
May 07 18:07:13 <brucethompson> So people want the python2.7 sections removed from Makefiles???
May 07 18:10:28 <cotequeiroz> I think that's the intention regarding new packages, although that's not absolutely clear.  The text makes no distinction.  I would imagine that if a package works for both versions, there should be no problem...
May 07 18:12:20 <cotequeiroz> ... but other people want them out sooner.
May 07 18:14:00 <brucethompson> Just seems a bit silly to me to not allow a package that builds for both python2.7 and python3.
May 07 18:14:05 <brucethompson> But whatever.
May 07 18:15:14 <cotequeiroz> @jefferyto acknoledged that "updating a Python 2 & 3 library package takes about the same amount of effort as updating a Python 3 only package."  It is just not 100% clear to me.
May 07 18:21:18 <cotequeiroz> jeffsf:  are you @jefferyto, btw?
May 07 19:21:43 <jeffsf> cotequeiroz: No, jeffsf on GitHub and jeff on the OpenWrt forums
May 07 19:45:27 <stintel> ahh so I finally got that power8 box up and running, as a first test I built my rpi0w .config on it, and it just completed. took 29m33,099s at -j80
May 07 19:46:15 <stintel> not too impressed with that build time, but the CPU was idling a lot, could probably be optimized
May 07 19:48:45 <Hell__> half an hour to build openwrt?
May 07 19:49:12 <stintel> including toolchain, brcm2708/bcm2708, not all packages
May 07 19:51:11 <Hell__> ah, toolchain is a significant thing
May 07 19:51:50 <Borromini> that's not too bad is it
May 07 19:51:53 <Borromini> j80 o_O
May 07 19:51:58 <stintel> yeah. gonna do a make clean and redo it, to skip toolchain and then compare to my i7 3930k :)
May 07 19:52:02 <Borromini> how much RAM on that thing stintel
May 07 19:52:10 <stintel> Borromini: 128GB
May 07 19:52:13 <Borromini> lordy
May 07 19:52:23 <stintel> only double of my workstation :P
May 07 19:52:29 <Borromini> i'm building effing android pie and it's choking on my 16 GB RAM >_>
May 07 19:52:30 <Borromini> yeah yeah
May 07 19:52:32 <Borromini> :P
May 07 19:52:52 <stintel> I have a 4x8GB DDR3 2400 kit lying around, any use for it ?
May 07 19:52:59 <Borromini> no :(
May 07 19:53:30 <Borromini> i have 2x 8 DDR4
May 07 19:54:04 <Hell__> I recently managed to get more than 8 GB of RAM on one computer
May 07 19:54:30 <Hell__> compiling stuff is a pain for me
May 07 19:58:12 <Borromini> well i just built this box last year but ram was horribly expensive at that point
May 07 19:58:17 <Borromini> i had planned on getting 32
May 07 19:58:41 <Monkeh> stintel: If it's going free I can always use an upgrade ;P
May 07 20:01:49 <Hell__> I don't have *any* 8GB RAM stick.
May 07 20:02:42 <Monkeh> It's been a while since I did a scratch build but I don't think my old Xeon is very scared of that Power8.
May 07 20:03:01 <stintel> GOC332GB2400C10AQC
May 07 20:03:13 <stintel> not much to find about it anymore
May 07 20:03:19 <Monkeh> Geil eh
May 07 20:03:36 <stintel> ganz :P
May 07 20:03:49 <Monkeh> Ganz?
May 07 20:04:04 <stintel> https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=de&tl=en&text=ganz%20geil
May 07 20:04:19 <Monkeh> Hey, we won the war.
May 07 20:04:20 <Monkeh> :P
May 07 20:04:22 <stintel> :D
May 07 20:04:40 <stintel> real    10m6,626s
May 07 20:05:06 <stintel> hmmz, and that's without the qt5 stuff I have on my workstation
May 07 20:05:12 <Borromini> Monkeh: just the war. germany got the economy in return :P
May 07 20:05:23 <Monkeh> stintel: Send me that .config and we'll see how the old spaceheater does. :P
May 07 20:05:54 <stintel> Monkeh: sure thing
May 07 20:06:37 * Monkeh checks for a VM with all 24 threads available
May 07 20:06:51 <Monkeh> heh, wonder if that's enough RAM
May 07 20:06:59 <Monkeh> We'll seeeeee
May 07 20:07:00 <stintel> Monkeh: https://gist.github.com/60e804362db2ada5652417c4defa3378
May 07 20:09:41 <Hell__> Monkeh: I have 12 threads on PC, 16 slow cores on the dell poweredge table/server, I guess my stuff is even slower :P
May 07 20:09:55 <Monkeh> Eh, I only have 4 on this box.
May 07 20:10:43 <Hell__> O_o
May 07 20:12:09 <Monkeh> But not *that* box. ;)
May 07 20:12:37 <Monkeh> This VM may not even have enough disk space for this, we'll find out
May 07 20:17:15 <Monkeh> Definitely a little short on RAM
May 07 20:19:07 <stintel> my "new" NAS has only 2 cores atm :P
May 07 20:19:57 <stintel> Asrock  E3C224D4I-14S - got it for the 2xSATA2/4xSATA3/8xSAS2 ports it has onboard
May 07 20:20:09 <Hell__> that's as many cores as my Lantiq-based routers
May 07 20:20:46 <stintel> looking for an E3-1285L v4 for it, but started with a Celeron G3260 as the shop that had the board had those in stock
May 07 20:21:10 * ldir puts Monkeh in the cooler - 3 weeks ;-)
May 07 20:21:10 <Monkeh> I'd really like to build a new NAS :{
May 07 20:21:24 <Monkeh> ldir: Humwhat?
May 07 20:22:02 <stintel> Monkeh: I'd like to get an U-NAS 810a case for it eventually
May 07 20:22:08 <stintel> and fill it with some 12TB SAS drives :)
May 07 20:22:29 <stintel> for now it's still an experiment, for bcachefs mostly
May 07 20:23:10 <stintel> really excited to see how the upstreaming of bcachefs goes
May 07 20:23:15 <Monkeh> stintel: Not a fan of said case
May 07 20:23:25 <Monkeh> Part of my problem is I can't find a single case on the market I think doesn't suck for the purpose.
May 07 20:23:45 <Monkeh> (the other part is I'm way too broke)
May 07 20:23:49 <stintel> well there really isn't much choice
May 07 20:24:06 <stintel> I finally managed to get not broke anymore :)
May 07 20:24:11 * ldir 's patch is now up to v4 https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/72A692BD-993C-4E88-9E95-9B1D4BFD3320@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk/
May 07 20:24:31 <Monkeh> I want about 12x 3.5" hotswap, two or four 2.5" internal, 120mm fans galore, standard ATX PSU..
May 07 20:25:18 * ldir hands Monkeh a baseball
May 07 20:25:29 <stintel> 8x 3.5" hotswap and 2-4x 2.5" internal would do for me, hence the u-nas
May 07 20:25:52 <stintel> right now I'm using a chenbro ES34069 with some old drives for the experiment
May 07 20:26:10 <Monkeh> ldir: What am I supposed to do with this silly thing, play rounders?
May 07 20:26:33 <ldir> Monkeh: it'll keep you sane during your stay in the cooler.
May 07 20:26:41 <Monkeh> Why am I in the cooler? :{
May 07 20:27:06 <Monkeh> stintel: Hm, well, it bailed out.
May 07 20:27:09 <Monkeh> This should be interesting
May 07 20:27:14 * ldir thinks at some point Monkeh will get the movie reference
May 07 20:27:21 <Monkeh> ldir: Probably not, no
May 07 20:28:15 <ldir> [21:04:19]  <Monkeh>	Hey, we won the war. - I'm going down "The Great Escape" route, or as the German's call it "The Great Re-capture" :-)
May 07 20:28:27 <Monkeh> Ah right.
May 07 20:28:31 <Monkeh> Sorry, bad at references.
May 07 20:28:41 <Monkeh> stintel: Ran out of space, very sad, will try again.
May 07 20:28:49 * ldir takes Monkeh out of the cooler and puts himself in instead
May 07 20:29:18 <Monkeh> Little VM was not meant for this
May 07 20:29:52 <Monkeh> And off it goes.
May 07 20:30:00 <stintel> :)
May 07 20:30:16 <Monkeh> I'm sure I've done builds in <30 minutes on it before, anyway. :P
May 07 20:31:47 <ldir> why haven't I noticed "daemon.warn netifd: Failed to set IPv6 mtu to 1500on interface 'wg0'" before now?
May 07 20:32:03 <stintel> do all of you always do "./scripts/feeds install -a" or just install what you use ?
May 07 20:32:12 <Monkeh> stintel: I am very lazy, guess.
May 07 20:32:26 <ldir> I do install -a and select what I what
May 07 20:32:32 <Hell__> why did someone get put in the cooler O_o
May 07 20:32:34 <stintel> guess I should start doing -a and keep diffconfigs
May 07 20:36:38 * ldir blames dedeckeh for mtu messages
May 07 20:41:12 <stintel> pfff I have some stuff to automate :p
May 07 20:41:19 <stintel> moving to a different buildbox is proving to be a pita
May 07 20:47:31 <stintel> Monkeh: don't forget to do `make download` first ;)
May 07 20:47:42 <Monkeh> stintel: Yeah, I forgot. :P
May 07 20:48:04 <Monkeh> It's okay, 'tisn't too slow here.
May 07 20:48:35 <stintel> I've got some issues with my pi-hole causing all kinds of slowness
May 07 20:48:52 <Monkeh> something something pi
May 07 20:48:53 <Monkeh> :P
May 07 20:49:09 <stintel> very accurate ;)
May 07 20:49:27 <Monkeh> Well we're flying into target stuff now.
May 07 20:50:15 <stintel> I've just brought my new build box in sync with the custom stuff on my workstation
May 07 20:50:23 <stintel> doing `make clean` now on both
May 07 20:51:09 <Tapper> stintel:  If you want to off load that ddr I am building me a new computer in about 3 weeks I hope.
May 07 20:51:24 <Monkeh> DDR3, new? Does not compute
May 07 20:51:40 <Monkeh> Anyway, I stick me hand up first :P
May 07 20:51:50 <Tapper> O sorry I thought  you said ddr 4
May 07 20:52:33 <stintel> that was the other Stijn ;)
May 07 20:52:49 <Tapper> I have the case,  mobo and ssd to be going on with so far
May 07 20:53:05 <stintel> alright, `time make -j80` @ Power8 vs `time make -j12` @ Intel
May 07 20:53:07 <karlp> stintel: if you have done install -a, it does make some things slower, like make menuconfig and friends...
May 07 20:53:18 * Tapper needs to learn to listen to my dam screenreader better!
May 07 20:53:22 <stintel> karlp: too late now ;)
May 07 20:53:58 <stintel> lol the x86 is already way ahead. but it has SSD, vs HDD on the power8
May 07 20:54:33 <stintel> power8:  make[3] -C tools/patch compile   --- x86:  make[3] -C package/libs/uclibc++ compile
May 07 20:54:43 * Monkeh whips the Xeon
May 07 20:54:49 <Tapper> I cant wate untill the new WSL from MS
May 07 20:55:10 <Tapper> building OpenWrt on windows 10 using wsl now is slow
May 07 20:55:11 <Monkeh> stintel: Just how much crap you got in this image?! :P
May 07 20:55:16 <stintel> Monkeh: lots!
May 07 20:55:23 <stintel> Monkeh: it's my rpi image
May 07 20:55:48 <stintel> the config backup filename is config.rpi0w-test
May 07 20:55:55 <stintel> says enough I guess :)
May 07 20:56:00 <karlp> yeah, 30min for your power8 sounds pretty crap really.
May 07 20:56:05 <karlp> something's wrong.
May 07 20:56:19 <Monkeh> stintel: Bugger, it bailed again!
May 07 20:56:33 <Monkeh> stintel: Yeah, you ran the VM out of space again.
May 07 20:56:35 <karlp> hang on, is power8 the new cool stuff, like that talon whatsit workstation? or is power8 the old one?
May 07 20:56:48 <karlp> power9 is the hardcore sap crap
May 07 20:56:54 <Monkeh> karlp: 8's the last gen
May 07 20:56:56 <stintel> power8 is the old one ;)
May 07 20:57:05 <Monkeh> Still, this is a couple of 9 year old Xeons
May 07 20:57:07 <stintel> talos II = power9
May 07 20:57:20 <Monkeh> I so wanted to quip 'Where is your POWER now?!', but it is not to be.
May 07 20:57:42 <stintel> but the power8 box is still at tools while the x86 box is like almost done
May 07 20:58:00 <stintel> that's disappointing
May 07 20:58:07 <Monkeh> stintel: I got to f2fs-tools in 26 minutes, anyway.
May 07 20:58:26 <Monkeh> IOW any normal image would have been long done
May 07 20:58:38 <stintel> :D
May 07 20:58:57 * Monkeh soothes the old warhorse
May 07 20:59:05 <Monkeh> You're still useful. I promise.
May 07 20:59:52 <Tapper> could it be the hdds starving the CPUS of work to do?
May 07 21:00:07 <stintel> ahh but wait a minute, I moved my stuff, so the power8 is doin toolchain again apparently
May 07 21:00:33 <stintel> guess I'll be doing another make clean and retry
May 07 21:00:57 <Tapper> It's like horse racing for nerds!
May 07 21:01:13 <stintel> pretty much :D
May 07 21:01:27 <stintel> and the power8 is making its move :D
May 07 21:01:34 * Tapper tapper shouts now place your beats!
May 07 21:01:49 <Monkeh> I lack the motivation to give that VM more space and continue with this race. :P
May 07 21:01:50 <Tapper> bets**
May 07 21:01:51 <stintel> rien ne vas plus!
May 07 21:02:18 <Monkeh> So we'll just pretend I got the quip off. :P
May 07 21:02:43 * Tapper grumbles about his shit spelling making him look like a pleb again!
May 07 21:02:44 <Monkeh> And that I'm not remotely jealous of an 80 thread POWER8.
May 07 21:03:04 <stintel> oooh
May 07 21:03:07 <stintel> both reached opkg
May 07 21:03:09 <Tapper> at lest beats are good for you! lol
May 07 21:03:22 * Monkeh beats Tapper
May 07 21:03:25 <Monkeh> Sure about that?
May 07 21:03:26 <Monkeh> :P
May 07 21:04:27 <Tapper> lol it all depends on what you are in to!
May 07 21:04:31 * Tapper grins
May 07 21:04:40 <Monkeh> Matron..
May 07 21:04:43 <Tapper> hah
May 07 21:05:20 <stintel> anyway, even if the 80t power8 is only marginally faster, my idea was to offload building all images for all my devices to the power8, automatically based on my staging tree or something
May 07 21:05:35 <Monkeh> stintel: As a bonus, you heat the house
May 07 21:05:48 <stintel> Monkeh: oh, I'm gonna have to find a solution for the noise tho
May 07 21:05:59 <Tapper> I hate homophones!
May 07 21:06:09 <Monkeh> stintel: Just put this Itanic next to it and maybe it'll cancel out
May 07 21:06:14 <stintel> it's in a room downstairs, with closed doors, I'm 1 floor higher with another set of doors and I can still hear it
May 07 21:06:45 <Tapper> stintel dam that's lowd!
May 07 21:07:29 <Tapper> how menny  fans does it have?
May 07 21:07:49 <stintel> 5 double blade fans spinning at ~12k RPM
May 07 21:09:06 <Tapper> Christ! You would not want to catch your fingers in one of those!
May 07 21:09:13 <stintel> haha nope
May 07 21:09:31 <Tapper> I would be tapper 9 fingers quick time. lol
May 07 21:10:03 <Tapper> + my typing would be even worse!
May 07 21:10:39 <stintel> 😂
May 07 21:24:10 <stintel> heh, both failed after 30m and a handful of seconds
May 07 21:24:56 <stintel> must be the qt5 stuff
May 07 21:25:42 <stintel> which wasn't included in my initial build on the ppc
May 07 21:32:50 <stintel> /home/build/openwrt/staging_dir/toolchain-arm_arm1176jzf-s+vfp_gcc-7.4.0_musl_eabi/arm-openwrt-linux-muslgnueabi/include/c++/7.4.0/cstdlib:75:15: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
May 07 21:33:44 * stintel greps for the workaround for that issue in irclogs
May 07 21:35:16 <stintel> right, if I `make clean` that workaround doesn't work anymore
May 07 21:35:20 <stintel> bah
May 07 21:38:18 <ynezz> gch981213: thanks! should be fixed, forget to add it back during rebase
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