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Aug 24 03:16:19 <rotanid> grml, feeds install -a , solved
Aug 24 09:38:11 <Tapper> I think we could do with a services part on the home page of luci
Aug 24 09:38:48 <Tapper> To let you know if adblock, banip or bcp38 are enabled.
Aug 24 09:43:39 <pkgadd> enabled is a pretty fuzzy term, when it comes to number of diverse services, which are only loosely coupled at best. yes, I do understand what you mean, but programmatically determining this isn't quite trivial (is the init.d/ procd script enabled and running, does it have a /etc/config/foo with a disabled switch, things like bcp38 are even more complex - because even if you fully enable it and let
Aug 24 09:43:45 <pkgadd> it run, it won't actually do anything unless you specify the networks to filter out
Aug 24 09:46:23 <pkgadd> standardizing this and providing callbacks for a more meaningful return value of $is_running is imaginable, but would take quite a while to cover enough services to become useful
Aug 24 10:12:37 <Tapper> pkgadd You make some good points. It's simple for a non programmer like to come up with these things.
Aug 24 10:12:46 <Tapper> like me*
Aug 24 10:14:32 <Tapper> I think bcp38 does filter out some networks from install if you point it at your wan
Aug 24 10:15:40 <Tapper> I do get your point tho. Some services could show up as running when there are not configured rite!
Aug 24 10:17:13 <Tapper> EG i had adblock say it was running, but I left CURL out of my build so it had not downloaded any lists to block.
Aug 24 10:19:39 <olmari> Tapper: In general in openwrt an program or "app" depends on other programs, one should not be able to get, say, adblock without curl... That being said, I don't know how openwrt handles alternate depencies, like "need curl or wget or xx".
Aug 24 10:20:22 <Tapper> Adblock uses uclient-fetch as stock
Aug 24 10:20:43 <Tapper> I had curl installed and my config was telling adblock to use it.
Aug 24 10:21:10 <Tapper> When I sysupgraded with out CURL inthe build brackage
Aug 24 10:21:27 <Tapper> =breakage!
Aug 24 10:25:57 <olmari> Oh well.. Nothing is perfect I guess... So I do understand what you try to tell but I don't know would that be solution that is feasible and small enough "framework" to be universally included... Not that I can immediately tell any better solution... As obviously we'd need to be bug free (in context) first, monitoring solutions second, so to speak...
Aug 24 10:35:26 <KanjiMonster> Tapper: your issue should probably be fixed in adblock (maybe add a bug ticket on github for it?). If the config says curl, but it isn't installed, it should just fall back to uclient-fetch, not error out
Aug 24 16:55:19 <brucethompson> Anyone know how to build an individual package within coreutils?
Aug 24 16:55:42 <brucethompson> The Makefile for coreutils does not give any hints
Aug 24 16:56:45 <brucethompson> And / or how do you select one of these packages in menuconfig?
Aug 24 16:57:19 <brucethompson> I need to build coreutils-cksum
Aug 24 17:48:28 <brucethompson> Anyone there??
Aug 24 19:38:58 <brucethompson> Is this the right forum to ask about building OpenWrt packages?
Aug 24 19:49:38 <olmari> brucethompson: should
Aug 24 19:49:55 <brucethompson> OK. Great!!
Aug 24 19:50:24 <brucethompson> I need to build the package coreutils-cksum
Aug 24 19:50:53 <brucethompson> I can find it in the package.index file, but have no idea how to enable it in menuconfig
Aug 24 19:54:54 <brucethompson> In package.index, it says the package is in Section: utils; Category: Utilities
Aug 24 19:55:17 <brucethompson> The only thing there in menuconfig is "coreutils"
Aug 24 19:55:40 <brucethompson> The coreutils package is a dummy package that does not build anything.
Aug 24 19:56:36 <brucethompson> Is there a config file that I can use to manually enable packages or do I always have to go through menuconfig??
Aug 24 19:57:36 <olmari> in .config file resides the changes I think
Aug 24 19:58:21 <brucethompson> You are correct.
Aug 24 19:59:25 <brucethompson> I found a switch to manually enable the coreutils-cksum package in tmp/.config
Aug 24 19:59:38 <brucethompson> That file is always overwritten by the make system
Aug 24 20:00:26 <brucethompson> So the system seems too "smart" to allow people to manually enable packages for the build.
Aug 24 20:00:52 <olmari> you sure you need it in openwrt itself?
Aug 24 20:00:53 <brucethompson> Seems like you have to go through menuconfig.
Aug 24 20:01:13 <brucethompson> I am building a custom image that must include this package
Aug 24 20:01:31 <brucethompson> a custom flash image
Aug 24 20:02:30 <brucethompson> The custom flash image contains just enough software to run an install shell script wrote to do an extroot and install the rest of the software.
Aug 24 20:03:30 <brucethompson> I need a number of standard Linux commands in the custom flash image in order to run the install shell script
Aug 24 20:04:09 <brucethompson> One of the standard linux commands I need is: cksum
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Aug 24 20:34:52 <mangix> brucethompson: you need to select coreutils first
Aug 24 20:36:08 <mangix> a couple of other modular packages are like this as well
Aug 24 20:39:01 <brucethompson> i have already selected coreutils in menuconfig
Aug 24 20:39:18 * mangix checks
Aug 24 20:40:13 <brucethompson> there is still no option to select coreutils-cksum
Aug 24 20:40:40 <Slimey> https://imgur.com/a/iKUMIsq
Aug 24 20:40:43 <mangix> coreutils and coreutils-cksum must be selected to build. after selecting coreutils, hit enter and select coreutils-cksum
Aug 24 20:48:33 <brucethompson> Silly me...
Aug 24 20:48:56 <brucethompson> I did not know there was a submenu under coreutils
Aug 24 20:56:59 <brucethompson> OK. My packages are there now.
Aug 24 20:57:43 <brucethompson> I thought that submenus appear automatically in menuconfig if you select a menu item. I guess not.
Aug 24 20:58:21 <brucethompson> <mangix> Thanks greatly.
Aug 24 20:58:49 <olmari> brucethompson: they actually should (that I know of)
Aug 24 20:59:39 <brucethompson> Ok. Then there a bit of a bug in coreutils as the submeny does not open unless you hit enter after selecting coreutils
Aug 24 21:00:13 <brucethompson> That;s what got me confused
Aug 24 21:02:06 <olmari> well sometimes there are submenus, but then that kind of option hshould show arrow besides it or something
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