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Aug 25 07:56:55 <woshty> If I set something as y in menuconfig it gets build as a packages and included in the image? If I set it as m it gets build as a package but not included?
Aug 25 08:04:00 <Borromini> indeed
Aug 25 08:04:17 <Borromini> M for module/modular
Aug 25 08:26:27 <indy> hi all, i flashed 18.06.2 and 18.06.4 to ls1012afrdm board and i'm getting following error:
Aug 25 08:27:35 <indy> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/QkpQ9~YxBtw6yLtrx~Pgfg
Aug 25 08:57:02 <woshty> Borromini: thx, I got confused by all the ipks, already in the image and modular ones, being placed in the same directory .. can I set that up differently somehow?
Aug 25 09:01:08 <Borromini> woshty: if it works, don't touch it
Aug 25 09:01:21 <Borromini> why is it bothering you?
Aug 25 10:17:03 <DonkeyHotei> woshty: in almost all cases, you will not want M
Aug 25 10:30:18 <Borromini> DonkeyHotei: even with y he will keep getting packages in the output folder though. it seems that's the itch he wants to scratch
Aug 25 10:31:10 <rubberduck> hi - anybody here who knows the fritz!box 4040 with openwrt in detail?
Aug 25 10:37:37 <woshty> In a few months I will ask myself again which packages are already included in the image ..
Aug 25 10:38:42 <woshty> DonkeyHotei: So you think building an image that does all I want without the need to install additional packages is the way to go?
Aug 25 10:39:24 <olmari> woshty: why would you do any other way if you already know what you want to install?
Aug 25 10:40:01 <woshty> olmari: I kind of know what I want to do, not what to install :)
Aug 25 10:50:06 <russell--> iteration works
Aug 25 10:50:39 <rubberduck> tagged vlan does not work on LAN Ports ether on switch.
Aug 25 10:50:53 <rubberduck> do i have the wrong revision of that box?
Aug 25 10:52:55 <russell--> rubberduck: you can run 'swconfig dev switch0 show | grep port' with watch or a shell loop and plug into each port one at a time to map them out
Aug 25 10:56:52 <rubberduck> okay - i'll try
Aug 25 10:57:29 <rubberduck> what openwrt package is containing 'watch'?
Aug 25 11:03:41 <rubberduck> LAN1-4 = Port 1-4
Aug 25 11:03:45 <rubberduck> WAN = Port5
Aug 25 11:03:48 <rubberduck> CPU = Port 0
Aug 25 11:04:08 <rubberduck> but there is a VLAN '2' configured which is mapped to Port5 and 0t
Aug 25 11:04:19 <rubberduck> why this hack?
Aug 25 11:04:48 <olmari> rubberduck: umm? if you want any data from said VLAN to reac CPU, it needs always to be tagged on CPU port
Aug 25 11:04:57 <rubberduck> yes
Aug 25 11:05:12 <rubberduck> but nothing but vlan 1 works
Aug 25 11:05:13 <olmari> so where is the hack?
Aug 25 11:05:14 <rubberduck> tagged or untagged
Aug 25 11:05:27 <olmari> is it tagged on 0 too?
Aug 25 11:05:27 <rubberduck> web-interface only shows ports 0-4 - not 5
Aug 25 11:05:42 <rubberduck> eth1 is a virtual port pointing to eth0.2
Aug 25 11:06:00 <rubberduck> but invisible on commandline of web-interface
Aug 25 11:06:47 <olmari> you sure it's virtual like that? well I suppose drivers expose ports like they do, but well
Aug 25 11:07:49 <olmari> (I'm no expert here, but from pas experiences)
Aug 25 11:07:56 <rubberduck> https://sky.webnmail.de/privatebin/?6768b343f4808cec#Q5OFwu+30zj0bMiu8ioAQLpDQ30j/JWCPh3lKBWo5II=
Aug 25 11:08:23 <rubberduck> on the last lines you can see the hidden tagging of vlan2 to port 0 (CPU) and untagged Port 5 (WAN)
Aug 25 11:08:47 <Borromini> woshty: diffconfig is an easy way to show what's in a default image and what you added
Aug 25 11:33:35 <rubberduck>  found out that eth1 is fixed to CPU port Vlan ID 2
Aug 25 11:34:35 <olmari> rubberduck: for the sake of it, how are they defined in /etc/config/network ?
Aug 25 11:35:09 <rubberduck> if i MANUALLY define port 5 to VLAN2 in the file it works
Aug 25 11:35:31 <rubberduck> but this is being deleted after doing something in the web-interface
Aug 25 11:36:10 <russell--> where are you seeing eth1?
Aug 25 11:36:18 <rubberduck> https://sky.webnmail.de/privatebin/?1b2900a8e8d29428#R1SBytNdv5FCE0L/rXyGkVijgKVVMivkdC/87AINb9Y=
Aug 25 11:36:26 <rubberduck> eth1 is fixed to vlan id 2
Aug 25 11:36:32 <olmari> so... maybe internals (be them electronics or driver only) are the reason it is defined as eth1 originally? (if I understood you correctly from earlier)
Aug 25 11:36:43 <rubberduck> port5 does not appear on the web-interface
Aug 25 11:37:08 <rubberduck> eth1 if fixed to vlan id 2
Aug 25 11:37:25 <rubberduck> port 5 needs to be mapped to vlan id 2
Aug 25 11:37:37 <rubberduck> last paste does not work
Aug 25 11:37:48 <rubberduck> if i add port 5 again to vlan 2 it works
Aug 25 11:38:03 <russell--> does eth1 show up in dmesg?
Aug 25 11:38:10 <rubberduck> YES
Aug 25 11:38:22 <rubberduck> btw.... no
Aug 25 11:38:35 <rubberduck> but this is my problem as i do much so it scrolled out
Aug 25 11:38:57 <rubberduck> eth1 is a separate interface in this box mapped to the cpu-port of the switch vlan id 2
Aug 25 11:40:13 <russell--> vlan 1 needs port 0 tagged
Aug 25 11:41:13 <rubberduck> please don't mix the problems
Aug 25 11:41:25 <rubberduck> i have a problem with eth1/WAN/Port _5_
Aug 25 11:41:39 <russell--> well, leaving a know problem unfixed is a way of mixing problems
Aug 25 11:41:47 <russell--> known*
Aug 25 11:42:46 <rubberduck> i have no problem with tagged/untagged vlan 1
Aug 25 11:43:54 <russell--> is this a problem with openwrt build system or your config?
Aug 25 11:44:15 <russell--> if latter, probably #openwrt is a better place
Aug 25 11:44:23 <rubberduck> it's a problem with the fritzbox 4040 - i am using 18.06.4 not self-built
Aug 25 11:45:49 <rubberduck> 0t for vlan id 1 does _NOT_ Work
Aug 25 11:45:57 <russell--> start with vanilla config, and go from there
Aug 25 11:45:59 <rubberduck> but for other ids this works
Aug 25 11:46:10 <rubberduck> i'm doing this the 10th time today
Aug 25 11:46:53 <rubberduck> starting from scratch
Aug 25 12:16:13 <gch981213> rubberduck: Is that an ipq40xx router? If so, essedma driver for ipq40xx took the job of vlan processing.
Aug 25 12:16:56 <rubberduck> thx
Aug 25 12:17:06 <rubberduck> this driver also 'creates' eth1?
Aug 25 12:17:15 <gch981213> rubberduck: Correct.
Aug 25 12:18:44 <rubberduck> and does the switch magic with vlan 2?
Aug 25 12:22:22 <rubberduck> it seems that the WAN Port itselves is just a 'normal' Port (Port 5 on the Switch) but vlan2 needs to be handled special
Aug 25 12:22:37 <gch981213> rubberduck: er... I'm not sure about switch settings.
Aug 25 12:23:25 <rubberduck> by manually editing the /etc/config/network i can add port 5 (wan) to the vlan i want to have. not tested yet if tagging works, too.
Aug 25 18:11:53 <woshty> I have an error building miniperl. How do I determine which package that I selected made me have to build miniperl?
Aug 25 18:13:11 <Pepe> I am wondering why in the master branch, there is still samba3, which was EOL 4 years ago.
Aug 25 18:31:18 <pkgadd> Pepe: because samba4 is unsuitable for most devices
Aug 25 18:53:24 <swalker> updated openwrt/upstream, https://sdwalker.github.io/uscan/index.html
Aug 25 20:45:51 <mangix> Pepe: size
Aug 25 20:45:56 <mangix> and laziness
Aug 25 20:47:08 <mangix> It should be removed from the main branch
Aug 25 21:24:57 <ausjke> just checked 19.07 build log, quite a lot build failures still on various packages
Aug 25 21:42:49 <Tapper> What the hek is going on on the ML about this pull https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/2354
Aug 25 21:43:33 <Tapper> Further insults will be send to the police?
Aug 25 21:59:04 <hellsenberg> so much drama!
Aug 25 21:59:57 <f00b4r0> how unusual :3
Aug 25 22:04:47 * ausjke is wading through MLs
Aug 25 22:07:31 <Tapper> I could not work out what the insults  were! lol
Aug 25 22:08:01 <ausjke> might be just in bad mood on a bad day, take it easy
Aug 25 22:10:15 * ausjke wonders what is the biggest update in 19.07
Aug 25 22:10:47 <Tapper> ausjke Don't worry mate I will not get my knickers in a not over what some one says on the internets!
Aug 25 22:11:13 <Tapper> The pull has nothing to do with me.
Aug 25 22:11:30 <Mister_X> Tapper, you have to read the other tickets
Aug 25 22:12:02 <Tapper> I just read the one that is linked in the new one that was just closed.
Aug 25 22:12:06 <olmari> original pullrequest was more revealing.. (:
Aug 25 22:12:27 <Mister_X> there is another one mentioned in the linked ticket
Aug 25 22:12:43 <Tapper> I know that help was offered, but the police ! hahahah
Aug 25 22:12:59 <Tapper> Mister_X yeah I read that one to.
Aug 25 22:13:14 <Tapper> I read 2 pulls in all.
Aug 25 22:14:43 <Mister_X> not really any insult in the 3 PR/issues
Aug 25 22:16:18 <hellsenberg> some people just don't know how to handle developers, apparently
Aug 25 22:17:42 <hellsenberg> as a developer myself, I would say my attitude is rather blunt, am quite short-tempered, but I'm not taking things personally or trying to make them be.
Aug 25 22:20:01 <olmari> straight, even blunt, answers are sometimes "needed", delusional is never.. =)
Aug 25 22:32:38 <Tapper> hellsenberg I like people who are to the point. I don't want to guess what some meens by reading between the lines!
Aug 25 22:33:15 * Tapper nods at olmari
Aug 25 22:33:35 <Tapper> I am Bord!
Aug 25 22:33:51 <hellsenberg> I appreciate on-point people as well :D
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