**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 20 02:59:57 2007
Sep 20 08:45:43 <BabelO_> hi
Sep 20 09:05:48 <ljp> hi
Sep 20 09:07:01 <torarne> morning!
Sep 20 09:15:04 <gw280> ello ljp
Sep 20 09:15:22 <gw280> ljp: so we installed Qtopia on the FIC we have here in the office
Sep 20 09:15:39 <gw280> ljp: choosing the S60 theme completely broke it.. it seems to assume there's a keyboard
Sep 20 09:19:18 <ljp> ya, need to remove those because only the smudge theme works with touchscreen only device
Sep 20 09:19:35 <ljp> :)
Sep 20 09:20:08 <BabelO_> ljp : smudge is too big for me on Blueangel ;)
Sep 20 09:20:34 <BabelO_> standard qtopia works perfect, but miss keyboard, only dockeyboard is working
Sep 20 09:22:17 <ljp> the predictivekeyboard doesnt work?
Sep 20 09:22:44 <BabelO_> ljp : yes
Sep 20 09:23:01 <BabelO_> don't know why, it is never displayed
Sep 20 09:23:24 <ljp> does it create a space for it, but nothing shows?
Sep 20 09:24:25 <ljp> make sure theres /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/PredictiveKeyboard.conf
Sep 20 09:24:26 <BabelO_> ljp : no space for it, i try with an application and lot of line, and it doesn't do like dockkeyboard
Sep 20 09:25:25 <BabelO_> ok, i m going to meeting, bbl
Sep 20 09:29:11 <BabelO_> ljp : yes i have these conf file
Sep 20 09:32:23 <gw280> ljp: and smudge doesn't work too well anyway ;)
Sep 20 09:32:31 * gw280 pets his new S60 phone
Sep 20 09:37:34 <ljp> what do you mean it doesnt work?
Sep 20 09:39:30 <gw280> ljp: the on screen keyboard seems to be less-than-functional. ie - you can't play carriage returns, space, etc
Sep 20 09:39:53 <ljp> yes you can
Sep 20 09:44:09 <ljp> just stroke up or down on the left or right side of the keypad
Sep 20 09:46:42 <ljp> you can also press and hold
Sep 20 10:29:10 <BabelO_> ljp : if you are always around http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_25GSM
Sep 20 12:50:33 <chouimat> morning
Sep 20 12:57:07 <gw280> hey
Sep 20 13:05:55 <BabelO_> hi
Sep 20 13:06:25 <BabelO_> on this channel everyone say morning ;)
Sep 20 13:09:26 <andylockran> morning
Sep 20 13:09:30 <andylockran> :p
Sep 20 13:15:27 <torarne> jott: what was the url to your oxygen icon pack again?
Sep 20 13:17:19 <torarne> never mind, http://sse2.net/gp/
Sep 20 13:27:53 <torarne> ljp: do you know what could be the problem here:
Sep 20 13:27:53 <torarne> Verifying Blank System Configuration...passed
Sep 20 13:27:54 <torarne> Uploading Blank System Configuration 5242880/5242880 100%
Sep 20 13:27:54 <torarne> Flashing please wait..Invalid response from flash?
Sep 20 13:28:22 <torarne> flashing 4.3 preview on a GP that was just updated with the new bootloader
Sep 20 13:28:50 <jott> i had this too.. still works though..
Sep 20 13:29:10 <torarne> yeah, it says flash sucessful, and it seems to boot
Sep 20 13:29:16 <torarne> probably nothing :)
Sep 20 13:36:03 <torarne> jott: do you have a problem where the fs seems ro?
Sep 20 13:36:30 <torarne> the contact manger crashes when trying to save a new contact, and can't save modified images
Sep 20 13:38:19 <jott> hm yeah not while saving but it crashes ;)
Sep 20 13:40:14 <torarne> good thing i have all my contacts on the sim :)
Sep 20 13:42:14 <jott> can you call "mount" on the gp? i miss /proc/mounts and /etc/mtab ...
Sep 20 13:42:37 <BabelO_> hey jott ;) 4.3.0 is working well on my Blueangel, i just need to setup a correct modem plugin.. but sound not working, do you have ?
Sep 20 13:42:51 <torarne> what's the root pass?
Sep 20 13:43:01 <torarne> sorry, user
Sep 20 13:43:09 <BabelO_> torarne: greenphone
Sep 20 13:43:33 <torarne> root pass was blank :)
Sep 20 13:43:51 <torarne> mount: No /proc/mounts
Sep 20 13:44:08 <jott> BabelO_: nice.. hold on i put some music on the phone ;)
Sep 20 13:45:02 <BabelO_> jott : i m also curious on wifi pcmcia support, it does not seem to detect my wifi card :(
Sep 20 13:45:59 <jott> mh.. but the kernel detected your card?
Sep 20 13:46:40 <BabelO_> jott : yes sur , i ve made the driver myself, lol
Sep 20 13:47:20 <BabelO_> i ve to look in qtopia how they handle pcmcia card, is it with old method cardctl or the new one with CIS
Sep 20 13:51:42 <torarne> jott: maybe that's what the "Invalid response from flash?" message is about?
Sep 20 13:52:17 <jott> mh
Sep 20 13:52:18 <torarne> we used to have /opt/Qtopia.user, which was writable
Sep 20 13:52:33 <jott> yeah the baselayout changed
Sep 20 13:52:52 <jott> there is an /home/Update now and things..
Sep 20 13:53:43 <jott> not sure how this all is handled now
Sep 20 13:54:26 <jott> (e.g. /etc is writable now)
Sep 20 13:54:33 <torarne> yepp, i noticed that
Sep 20 13:55:01 <jott> BabelO_: hm my helix does not like mp3s as it seems ;) .. always shows length 0:00
Sep 20 13:55:28 <jott> maybe the 4.2.1 snapshot does not really work..
Sep 20 13:55:51 <BabelO_> jott i ve same with qtopia 4.2.3 but was working with some mp3 with 4.2.1
Sep 20 13:56:33 <jott> so maybe vbr or some things?
Sep 20 13:57:22 <torarne> wonder if /home/Updates is the new /opt/Qtopia?
Sep 20 13:57:30 <torarne> i mean
Sep 20 13:57:37 <torarne> new /opt/Qtopia.user
Sep 20 13:57:49 <jott> yeah i had the same guess
Sep 20 13:58:11 <torarne> have you tried overriding anything in there? icons, buttonconfig?
Sep 20 13:58:47 <jott> not yet
Sep 20 14:00:59 <jott> atleast lids seems to work ;) try to start an app (like ping ) and press ctrl+c ;p
Sep 20 14:02:51 <torarne> wow
Sep 20 14:02:58 <torarne> ssh closed and notice on phone
Sep 20 14:02:59 <torarne> nice :D
Sep 20 14:06:14 <jott> have you tried to build a rootfs for the gp yet?
Sep 20 14:06:43 <torarne> nope
Sep 20 14:09:06 <jott> i just build the sdk lets see if it works on my local machine ;)
Sep 20 14:09:46 <torarne> editing the defaulbuttons.conf in /home/Updates/etc affects the menu
Sep 20 14:10:06 <torarne> so i guess you could throw all kinds of stuff into /home/Updates
Sep 20 14:10:46 <torarne> eg. /home/Updates/pics for example, but i dont know what the deal is with the new .pic format of the icons
Sep 20 14:11:48 <jott> well its just the prerendered svgs
Sep 20 14:12:07 <jott> but you could just convert pngs to pic's
Sep 20 14:12:30 <torarne> i see
Sep 20 14:13:11 <jott> (pic is the QPicture "format")
Sep 20 14:13:22 <torarne> aaah :)
Sep 20 14:15:35 <jott> basically it's just a continer that holds a png ;)
Sep 20 14:15:41 <torarne> :)
Sep 20 14:16:43 <jott> i can't quite the the benefit over QImage well... anyway ;)
Sep 20 14:17:28 <jott> probably because it's more bound to QPainter
Sep 20 14:17:42 <torarne> hmm, when i'm ssh'ed into the phone and vi'ing some file the display suddenly lights up, halting the ssh session for 5 seconds
Sep 20 14:18:21 <torarne> happens every minute or so
Sep 20 14:18:35 <jott> hm
Sep 20 14:18:57 <jott> maybe it the lids to scare you ;)
Sep 20 14:19:09 <torarne> perhaps :)
Sep 20 14:34:36 <torarne> check out this stuff, http://fonejacker.tv/
Sep 20 14:36:12 <torarne> it's addictive, i should be writing my thesis but can't stop watching ;)
Sep 20 19:37:17 <BabelO> ljp: hi, are you around ? or can someone tell me if qtopia can handle numeric response from gsm modem ?
Sep 20 19:41:09 <ljp> numeric response? 
Sep 20 19:41:35 <ljp> you can view atchat by turning it on from the logging app
Sep 20 19:41:47 <BabelO> ljp: yes have a problem with BA modem, it is in atv1 mode then it answer with a blank line each time
Sep 20 19:41:58 <BabelO> before OK
Sep 20 19:42:24 <BabelO> i i put it in atv0 mode then it answer 0 instead of OK without blank line 
Sep 20 19:42:45 <BabelO> because qtopia segfault actually with ate0, i suppose it is due to blank line
Sep 20 19:43:17 <BabelO> ljp: yes i use this login mode
Sep 20 19:43:31 <BabelO> s/login/logging/
Sep 20 19:46:11 <BabelO> ljp: 
Sep 20 19:46:13 <BabelO> AtChat :  T : "ATV1E0"
Sep 20 19:46:13 <BabelO> AtChat :  F :
Sep 20 19:46:13 <BabelO> AtChat :  F :
Sep 20 19:46:13 <BabelO> AtChat :  F : OK
Sep 20 19:52:02 <LarstiQ> oops
Sep 20 19:52:41 <LarstiQ> I hope the reason qtopia has completely deadlocked hasn't got anything to do with me entering my pin wrongly a bit too much
Sep 20 19:57:01 <BabelO> ljp: any idea how can i solve this ?
Sep 20 20:33:02 <BabelO> ljp: hmm nothing to do :(
Sep 20 21:04:54 <ljp> i can ask the comm guy when he gets in
Sep 20 21:10:20 <BabelO> ljp: i patch qtopiacomm at the moemnt to understand 0 and 1 and test...
Sep 20 21:11:04 <BabelO> i hope your comm guy can found something or just ignore blank line ;)
Sep 20 21:15:21 * ljp is working on band selection
Sep 20 21:18:57 <BabelO> ljp: not better, it just not segfault but display Did not receive a connection event from the qws server
Sep 20 23:01:13 <ljp> woohoo two bugs down
Sep 20 23:08:56 <jott> ljp: good to hear! if you are in bugfixing mood: create a new contact and switch the tabs - 4.3 on gp crashes ;)
Sep 20 23:10:04 <rohanpm> we're working on that one
Sep 20 23:12:08 <jott> ah sweet more tt devs in here .. hello ;)
Sep 20 23:12:15 <rohanpm> hi :-)
Sep 20 23:14:13 <BabelO> jott: same tester number ;)
Sep 20 23:14:16 <BabelO> hi rohanpm 
Sep 20 23:17:12 <ljp> well, we're all doing nothing but bug fixes...
Sep 20 23:23:12 <BabelO> ljp: i investigate a little bit, my segfault occur only with atv1 and my blank line
Sep 20 23:29:06 <BabelO> good night all
Sep 20 23:29:17 <BabelO> or mormning or evening ;)
Sep 20 23:37:22 <ljp> woot! another bug down
Sep 20 23:37:45 <ljp> i think 2 p1's in one morning is more than I can handle
Sep 21 00:07:47 <torarne> nice :)
Sep 21 00:40:39 <rohanpm> j0tt: just fixed the contacts bug
Sep 21 00:43:00 <j0tt> nice!
Sep 21 00:43:44 <j0tt> i suppose the next daily snapshot is really worth the build ;)
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