**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 30 02:59:56 2007 Sep 30 03:50:12 bipolar: seems that citadel will soon support SMS Sep 30 15:06:58 chouimat: hiya. what about citadel and sms? Sep 30 15:08:25 bipolar: someone posted a patch Sep 30 15:08:39 so you can send sms each time you get an email :) Sep 30 15:08:50 hmm... interesting Sep 30 15:09:34 now all we need is a way to sync qtopia's contacts/calendar w/ a groupdav source from the handheld and we'll be set. :) Sep 30 15:09:48 me too Sep 30 15:11:05 I wonder what it would take to do that.... are there any helper functions in qtopia that would be useful for that? Sep 30 15:11:17 * bipolar checks the qtopia docs... Sep 30 15:11:29 bipolar: the qdsync is in qtopia 4.3.0 Sep 30 15:11:47 heh... Sep 30 15:12:01 so almost half is done already? :) Sep 30 15:12:53 i guess Sep 30 15:20:22 yeah and even if qdsync can not be adapted, all the pim data is stored in QAbstractItemModel so access is really nice and easy Sep 30 15:20:59 ok I think I need to reinstall this computer ... sh look for a funny symbole (propably bad symlink) and cron segfault Sep 30 15:21:01 (so to go the other way around and use another ready sync client to take the model data) Sep 30 15:21:20 j0tt: I was think about opensync (??) Sep 30 15:21:27 mh well yeah.. Sep 30 15:21:54 i think it is not that ready for prime time ;) Sep 30 15:22:30 the funambol syncml client looks better imho.. (the native one) Sep 30 15:22:30 j0tt: I'm lazy so less work is the better ;) and writing a plugin is somewhat easy to do ;) Sep 30 15:23:05 and opensync does not have a working syncml client the last time i checked Sep 30 15:23:28 I've never been able to get funimbol to work reliably Sep 30 15:23:56 is funambol written in java? Sep 30 15:23:56 not the server Sep 30 15:24:04 the client Sep 30 15:24:06 its c Sep 30 15:24:07 and it's always seemd so messy. Sep 30 15:24:13 (there are different implementations) Sep 30 15:24:14 oh, the client... Sep 30 15:24:28 speaking of java brb I need some coffee Sep 30 15:24:41 http://sourceforge.net/projects/sync4jevolution this one looks not that bad Sep 30 15:25:31 I've built a qtopia 4.3 snapshot (for x86), but all I can get it to do is pop up "Please Wait..." with a padlock icon. what am I doing wrong? Sep 30 15:25:49 I started qvfb, then ran image/bin/qpe. Sep 30 15:25:59 mh Sep 30 15:27:34 export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth34:mmHeight44:0 <- have you set this? Sep 30 15:29:03 no, but I'll try it. it seems to be finding the qvfb device without it though. Sep 30 15:29:27 mh yeah.. Sep 30 15:29:56 maybe you have to delete ~/Applications Sep 30 15:30:46 http://imagebin.ca/view/a9p65u3f.html < thats what it's doing. Sep 30 15:30:53 jott: ok... I'll do that. Sep 30 15:31:24 mh yeah maybe the sqlite db is broken Sep 30 15:38:29 bipolar: oh and make sure image/etc/sxe.profiles is read-able by the user running qpe if you enabled sxe Sep 30 15:38:36 (or better not disabled sxe) Sep 30 15:39:23 ahh... sxe is enabled Sep 30 15:39:33 QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /var/log/sxe.log Sep 30 15:39:43 ;) Sep 30 15:40:07 yeah its a bit messy running sxe on a desktop ;) Sep 30 15:42:18 no free holes in shm... huh? Sep 30 15:43:44 mh ;) Sep 30 15:45:08 i disabled sxe on my desktop build btw ;) Sep 30 15:45:22 I'll do the same. I don't think I'll need it. Sep 30 15:45:26 it's also easier to develop this way Sep 30 15:45:54 (as you can not just run an application without beeing registered in the sxe) Sep 30 15:46:13 should probbly get the lastest snapshot while I'm at it. has rsync been setup for the snapshots yet? Sep 30 15:46:28 nope not yesterday atleast Sep 30 15:46:58 yeah but grab a snapshot.. there are a bunch of fixes since the -preview.. Sep 30 15:48:01 I gotta find out how lorn got qtopia built for the n800, as thats the only device I have. Sep 30 15:48:20 hm yeah i guess -device n800 might work :p Sep 30 15:48:34 if you have the appropiate toolchain installed Sep 30 15:49:10 but having a x86 build is also important if you plan to test/develop things ;) Sep 30 15:52:20 jott: or ppc :) Sep 30 15:52:29 yeah or ppc ;) Sep 30 15:52:41 "desktop".. to be more general ;) Sep 30 15:53:26 * chouimat wonders how hard it will be to get qtopia running on his SGI O2 ... Sep 30 15:53:38 mh interesting idea ;) Sep 30 15:53:46 * jott removes the dust from his O2 Sep 30 15:55:01 * chouimat starts the backup process and get ready to rebuild this computer ... Sep 30 15:56:37 jott: something for qtopia? http://qtscrob.sourceforge.net/ Sep 30 16:01:45 mh maybe.. if only helix would work :p Sep 30 16:02:11 haha Sep 30 16:26:56 ljp: is the phoneapplication for toucscreen only made for VGA ? I have configured with qvga size. Sep 30 16:51:59 goxboxlive: which phoneapplication? Sep 30 17:05:50 jott: The one for Qtopia-4.3.0 Sep 30 17:15:06 still not sure which application you mean exactly ;) .. making/receiving phonecalls works on the greenphone (and fits on its qvga display) Sep 30 17:16:11 the smudge theme has some little glitches as it seems Sep 30 17:16:32 (just tested.. but works better than in -preview ;) Sep 30 17:45:01 goxboxlive: depends on which theme Sep 30 17:46:47 ljp: hiya! were you able to find the time to build a redistributable n800 image? Sep 30 17:48:21 not yet. will do this week Sep 30 17:49:20 ljp: ok. I'm currently trying to figure out scatchbox. last time I tried I gave up in frustration. the docs are quite confusing, at least the ones the maemo devs have. Sep 30 17:53:17 Scratchbox has 6 diffrent arm toolchains in their repo, and no instructions on which one to use. :\ Sep 30 17:55:54 hmm... make that 8. Sep 30 17:58:56 jott: the smudge theme, the dialer for touchscreens (with dialer numbers) Sep 30 17:59:20 ljp: AFAIKS smudge is the only theme wich are available with 4.3.0 Sep 30 18:07:20 goxboxlive: there are more theme.. where "Qtopia" is the default greenphone theme Sep 30 18:08:04 speaking of smudge.. is there a way to increase the "finger-scroll-speed"? Sep 30 18:10:05 jott: ok, why doesnt it build when buidling Qtopia, I know it is listed in general.pri . Sep 30 18:11:08 goxboxlive: any device profile? Sep 30 18:11:30 ljp: just the fic one Sep 30 18:11:43 i have used the fic device as a base Sep 30 18:12:01 look in devices/ficgta01/profile.pri Sep 30 18:12:18 THEMES=snudge Sep 30 18:12:27 just take that line out to get all the themes Sep 30 18:21:17 ok thx Sep 30 18:22:35 ljp: what about the camaera application.? How can i add that back? It's disabled for the FIC. Sep 30 18:24:22 ljp: forget it, i'll see it Sep 30 18:31:50 * chouimat|ibook wants qtopia 4.3.0 rsync Sep 30 18:34:12 :) Sep 30 18:37:20 chouimat|ibook: theres snapshots available for rsync Sep 30 18:37:43 ljp: I think they are 4.2.5 not 4.3 Sep 30 18:39:08 hmm Sep 30 18:39:11 ok Sep 30 18:43:07 chouimat|ibook: curl 'ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.0-snapshot-20070929.tar.gz' | tar xzf - --strip-component 1 ;) Sep 30 18:44:07 jott: I know this ... it's just the download of the whole package everyday that I don't like :) Sep 30 18:44:35 i will get them to add qtopia4-bleeding :) when oslo gets back to work Sep 30 18:44:42 chouimat|ibook: make a cronjob ;) Sep 30 18:44:58 ljp: thnaks Sep 30 18:45:08 jott: cron segfault here Sep 30 18:45:18 haha :p Sep 30 18:46:33 while true; do fetchsnapshot; sleep 86400; done ;) Sep 30 18:47:01 who needs cron if there is sleep ;) Sep 30 18:49:45 jott: true I did this on an embedded system ... Sep 30 18:53:50 pokes in another bug in the vcf importer: TYPE=home is not handled as it should :/ Sep 30 18:54:50 mh and a contact can just have one phone number of a given type.. but thats more of a design flaw :~( Sep 30 20:04:02 I still can't get past "please wait" when starting qpe. the only message I'm getting is a few lines like "no free holes in shm" Sep 30 20:05:09 google finds a post by ljp helping someone else with a similar error, but I don't think it's the same issue. Sep 30 20:05:26 I've got 1GB allocated to the shm file system. Sep 30 20:07:35 I don't get that error when I use the 'runqtopia' script, but It still sticks at "Please Wait" Sep 30 20:08:16 Although with the greenphone skin, some of the buttons work. Sep 30 20:08:40 I guess it's the 'home' app that is displaying "please wait" Sep 30 20:36:22 which phone is this? Sep 30 20:36:55 neither... it's an x86 build Sep 30 20:37:41 at first I thought it what sxe getting in the way, but rebuilding with -no-sxe doesn't cure it. Sep 30 20:38:16 hmm, weird Sep 30 21:32:24 hi Sep 30 21:43:12 hi BabelO , have you had any luck with BA? Sep 30 21:43:23 i am fighting with gprs Sep 30 21:43:47 goxboxlive: nothing :( still hang after one at command :( Sep 30 21:43:56 goxboxlive: gprs ? on universal ? Sep 30 21:44:03 yes Sep 30 21:44:14 how do you use it ? Sep 30 21:44:20 with just qtopia ? Sep 30 21:44:45 if so then you need multiplexer plugin setup correctly as i post it on #htc-linux Sep 30 21:45:49 chapter "Multiplexers That Use Multiple Serial Ports" http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.2/tut-multiplexing.html Sep 30 21:45:49 BabelO: i have made some own AT commands in vendor file. It brings up ttyUSB0 and the G at the top shows up. Sep 30 21:46:45 But i have DNS look up fails. Sep 30 21:46:54 goxboxlive: yes, the G mean attched to gprs, but not logged in ;) Sep 30 21:47:01 ok Sep 30 21:47:21 The G has two wtates. On regular and one filled fat G Sep 30 21:47:28 how ppp script is setup ? Sep 30 21:48:16 I tried using the we made when i was testing UMTS on Universal. Sep 30 21:48:25 so you already setup muliplex plugin on universal Sep 30 21:48:46 well i havent, maybe it just worked. Sep 30 21:48:58 all i did was to edit ATE0V1 Sep 30 21:49:15 ok wait s i have one for you that should work Sep 30 21:49:32 But as mather of fact i cant see that i have any ppp0 devices Sep 30 21:50:23 i just wish there where a console application in Qtopia so i could just test without using ssh Sep 30 21:50:26 goxboxlive: if you add debug or something like that you should see debug trace in /var/log/messages Sep 30 21:50:53 Messaging : Mail boxes connected Sep 30 21:50:53 Messaging : SMTP: Constructor Sep 30 21:50:53 Messaging : Using MMSCommsHttp reference implementation Sep 30 21:50:53 Messaging : MmsClient: Using network config: "/home/root/Applications/Network/wap/wap.conf" Sep 30 21:50:53 Messaging : MmsClient: Using data account: "/home/root/Applications/Network/config/dialupGPRS0.conf" Sep 30 21:52:05 BabelO: it's getting late, got to go to work again tomorrow. good night, cu tomorrow. Sep 30 21:52:37 http://pastebin.ca/721038 Sep 30 21:52:38 goxboxlive: try with this Oct 01 02:54:45 So, the developer root filesystem will be updated at the "release"? Oct 01 02:54:51 (on qtopia.net) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 01 02:59:56 2007