**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 04 02:59:56 2007
Oct 04 03:21:03 <ljp> sagacis: ok.
Oct 04 03:21:33 <sagacis> Just an update.  I played snake, too, but the controls seemed backward.  Maybe I didn't do it right.
Oct 04 03:21:59 <sagacis> I like the clock wait symbol.
Oct 04 03:22:49 <chouimat> wow 139s lag time ... amazing
Oct 04 03:27:38 <chouimat> ljp: how to tell you weren't mmom's favorite : http://www.mcrd.ath.cx/mom.jpg
Oct 04 03:53:53 <sagacis> Qtopia's getting webkit, eh?
Oct 04 05:28:47 <ljp> ya. :) its about time we got a free browser
Oct 04 08:31:06 <BabelO> hi
Oct 04 10:58:40 <amcewen> Afternoon
Oct 04 12:07:56 <goxboxlive> Ok , i have Qtopia running on Motorola A780. Havent tested the phone yet :-)
Oct 04 19:06:09 <jorgenpt> ljp: When's the next snap  coming?
Oct 04 19:08:59 <ljp> source?
Oct 04 19:09:15 <ljp> they should be available everyday, unless there's a problem
Oct 04 19:12:56 <goxboxlive> jorgenpt: everyday at approx. 01:30 norwegian time :-) I know, because i build at least one time a day :-D
Oct 04 19:18:30 <chouimat> but still no rsync for 4.3 :(
Oct 04 19:21:02 <jorgenpt> Ok
Oct 04 20:29:09 <donal> Hello all. Anyone know if Trolltech are still supporting the QTopia Desktop application?
Oct 04 20:31:30 <donal> You only seem to be able to download it for windows, mac or as an rpm for Red Hat & SuSE. As I'm using Ubunti, it would be much easier if they made it available via .deb file.
Oct 04 20:32:09 <j0tt> i assume we will see a release for qtopia 4 soon..
Oct 04 20:33:13 <j0tt> hopefully as opensource ;)
Oct 04 20:33:20 <donal> Any Idea when qtopia 4 is due?
Oct 04 20:33:56 <donal> yes, it would be nice if it was opensource!
Oct 04 20:34:17 <j0tt> well 4.3 preview is out.. it will not take THAT long anymore to see the final 4.3
Oct 04 20:35:40 <j0tt> and i bet the qtopia desktop release coincides with the qtopia phone 4.3 release ;)
Oct 04 20:35:50 <chouimat> last thing it heard is :"SOON"
Oct 04 20:36:32 <donal> I've just checked the release notes here (http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/release-4-3-0.html) and it didn't say anything about the Qtopia Deskop application :-(
Oct 04 20:36:55 <j0tt> yes but the integrated "qdsync" that wants a qtopia desktop ;)
Oct 04 20:37:23 <j0tt> so the desktop will follow. ;)
Oct 04 20:37:41 <chouimat> j0tt: in theory ;)
Oct 04 20:37:45 <donal> Ahh, right :-)
Oct 04 20:37:48 <j0tt> hehe yeah...
Oct 04 20:37:59 <donal> OK, fingers crossed so
Oct 04 20:38:00 <j0tt> i assume the desktop isn't developed in brisbane..
Oct 04 20:38:08 <j0tt> but in munich or oslo..
Oct 04 20:39:16 <donal> Wish the price of the greenphones would drop a bit!
Oct 04 20:39:21 <j0tt> i just realized how easy kontact integration with the qtopia is ;) (not in syncing but in dialing/smsing)
Oct 04 20:39:57 <donal> Doe sKontact alreasy sync with QTopia's PIm data?
Oct 04 20:39:59 <chouimat> I have to try this 
Oct 04 20:40:06 <j0tt> mh
Oct 04 20:41:19 <donal> How can you do this in Kontact?
Oct 04 20:41:26 <chouimat> j0tt: www.mcrd.ath.cx/bob4,jpg
Oct 04 20:42:55 <j0tt> chouimat: is this your cat? ;)
Oct 04 20:43:01 <chouimat> yes
Oct 04 20:43:32 <donal> Can you sync Kontact with the Greenphone? Or would you have to use QTopia Desktop?
Oct 04 20:43:57 <BabelO> wouah it is not a cat it is the yeti ;)
Oct 04 20:44:03 <chouimat> donal: syncing is not ready yet (iirc)
Oct 04 20:44:24 <donal> ok, cheers
Oct 04 20:44:50 <j0tt> kdialog --yesno "Dial %N via Qtopia?"; if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then ssh root@gp ". /opt/Qtopia/qpe.env; qcop QPE/Application/qpe 'Dialer::dial(QString,QString)' null '%N'"; fi 
Oct 04 20:44:58 <j0tt> you can use this in kontact to dial ;)
Oct 04 20:45:09 <j0tt> scp %F root@gp:/tmp/; ssh root@gp ". /opt/Qtopia/qpe.env; qcop QPE/Application/qtmail 'SMS::writeSms(QString,QString,QString)' null '%N' /tmp/`basename %F`"
Oct 04 20:45:12 <j0tt> and this to sms
Oct 04 20:45:32 <j0tt> (as script-hooks)
Oct 04 20:48:52 <j0tt> chouimat: http://sse2.net/cekuele.jpg this is one of our two cats ;)
Oct 04 20:50:09 <chouimat> j0tt: http://www.mcrd.ath.cx/pussycloseup.jpg <--- nice one and worksafe
Oct 04 20:50:29 <j0tt> haha
Oct 04 20:54:35 <j0tt> chouimat: http://sse2.net/laslo.jpg this is the other one 
Oct 04 20:59:40 <chouimat> cool
Oct 04 20:59:51 <chouimat> sorry was testing my new build and the camera
Oct 04 21:00:19 <chouimat> too bad that ssh isn't enabled in the techpreview
Oct 04 21:01:25 * chouimat gets his notes and pen from under the cat
Oct 04 21:03:22 <j0tt> hum? which techpreview? the 4.3 greenphone image has ssh enabled :O
Oct 04 21:04:03 <chouimat> don't work here
Oct 04 21:04:08 <j0tt> mh
Oct 04 21:04:14 <j0tt> strange..
Oct 04 21:04:30 <j0tt> but network is ok?
Oct 04 21:04:39 <chouimat> I can ping it
Oct 04 21:04:44 <chouimat> brb need X
Oct 04 21:09:25 <j0tt> chouimat: have you tried to "start network service" via the devtools on the phone? maybe this helps?! ..
Oct 04 21:09:47 <j0tt> still strange you have net but no ssh :/
Oct 04 21:12:42 <chouimat> weird I ugraded to xorg 7.3 and I only have the cursor in 1 screen
Oct 04 21:18:05 <j0tt> mh.. are there nvidia driver that support 7.3?
Oct 04 21:44:02 <BabelO> ljp: ah ah ah
Oct 04 21:44:19 <BabelO> ljp: i add some trace to qtopia to understand
Oct 04 21:48:51 <BabelO> now it is half working ;) with some patch to qtopia ;)
Oct 04 22:04:33 <ljp> ok. thats progress
Oct 04 22:07:20 <bipolar> hello all
Oct 04 22:09:27 <ljp> hi
Oct 04 22:16:46 <BabelO> ljp: yes little progress :(
Oct 04 22:23:32 <BabelO> ljp: can i send some wine to cindy ? she extend the delay
Oct 04 22:25:56 <BabelO> ljp: my new output with some progress http://pastebin.ca/726137
Oct 04 22:26:12 <BabelO> but no sim card into phone ;)
Oct 04 22:27:14 <woglinde_> hi
Oct 04 22:27:38 <woglinde_> is a toolchain for qtopai 4.3 available somewhere?
Oct 04 22:29:02 <ljp> there is one for the neo
Oct 04 22:29:32 <woglinde_> ljp I ported the midpath-qt backend(which wasnt that hard) to qt4
Oct 04 22:29:44 <woglinde_> and now I wanted to try some midlets on the greenphone
Oct 04 22:29:56 <woglinde_> but I need to compile some stuff
Oct 04 22:30:26 <ljp> oh gp.. thats in the sdk
Oct 04 22:30:38 <ljp> and we havent released the 4.3 preview sdk
Oct 04 22:30:53 <woglinde_> yeah thats why I asked
Oct 04 22:31:06 <ljp> hmmm
Oct 04 22:31:17 <woglinde_> but I can wait
Oct 04 22:32:02 <woglinde_> or I flash the older 4.2.4 version
Oct 04 22:34:41 <j0tt> you can build a gp sdk manually
Oct 04 22:34:56 <j0tt> look at scripts/ 
Oct 04 22:36:13 <j0tt> you can use the gcc toolchain from the 4.2 sdk or use crosstool to build your own
Oct 04 22:38:42 <woglinde_> jott hm right
Oct 04 22:38:49 <woglinde_> stupid me
Oct 04 22:39:19 <woglinde_> I wouldnt use crosstool
Oct 04 22:39:20 <woglinde_> *g*
Oct 04 22:40:04 <j0tt> well the greenphone sdk gcc is build with crosstool ;)
Oct 04 22:41:38 <j0tt> but to spare the time you can use the /usr/local/arm-linux gcc from the 4.2 sdk and use greenphone-make-sdk.sh to just build the 4.3 sdk ;)
Oct 04 22:42:05 <woglinde_> hm I only need the compiler
Oct 04 22:43:06 <woglinde_> nite
Oct 04 22:57:25 <j0tt> hm speaking of java .. is there some effort going on to get a jvm like kaffe on qtopia 4?
Oct 04 23:01:20 <BabelO> j0tt: if you are able to compile phoneme, why not, last time i try with a regular arm gcc compiler, but i failed :(
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