**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 07 02:59:57 2007
Oct 07 03:12:55 <robguthrie> hey people.. have people been able to put qtopia on any "unsupported" phones?
Oct 07 03:17:02 <robguthrie> and has there been any recent news regarding new open phone hardware being available soon?
Oct 07 03:17:41 <ljp> htc-linux guys have a working qtopia phone on htc universal
Oct 07 03:24:20 <robguthrie> thanks
Oct 07 14:47:12 <chouimat> morning
Oct 07 18:29:24 <goxboxlive> ljp: there?
Oct 07 18:47:07 <ljp> hi
Oct 07 18:47:29 <goxboxlive> hi ljp have you seen tsdogs progress with roadmap?
Oct 07 18:48:08 <goxboxlive> ljp: this is BabelO running roadmap on Blueangel: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/capture21.png
Oct 07 18:48:43 <goxboxlive> and this is tsdogs running roadmap on universal: http://84.18.144.44/tsdogs/screenshots/qtopia_roadmap2.mpg
Oct 07 18:49:21 <ljp> yes i have. thats really cool!
Oct 07 18:50:35 <goxboxlive> yes it is. You should really send him a GP for all the work he has done with it. :-)
Oct 07 18:51:41 <ljp> wouldnt he rather have a neo?
Oct 07 18:51:56 <goxboxlive> no idea :-)
Oct 07 18:52:51 <zecke> ljp: I just read about Eirik :(
Oct 07 18:53:20 <ljp> ya, sad. hey
Oct 07 18:53:28 <goxboxlive> zecke: what is that?
Oct 07 18:53:31 <ljp> "Chief Troll" though!
Oct 07 18:53:44 <ljp> Eirik has eye problems
Oct 07 18:53:58 <ljp> so he has stepped down as co-CEO
Oct 07 18:54:25 <goxboxlive> ok i c
Oct 07 18:56:05 * chouimat is listening to D'Oreste by Aesma Daeva on Dawn of the New Athens [Amarok]
Oct 07 18:56:39 * ljp wrote qalsamixer over the weekend
Oct 07 18:58:48 <goxboxlive> ljp: will it be aplied to the snapshot?
Oct 07 18:59:14 <ljp> probably not
Oct 07 18:59:24 <goxboxlive> to OpieII then?
Oct 07 18:59:29 <ljp> maybe, but will be at qtopia.net
Oct 07 18:59:34 <goxboxlive> ok good
Oct 07 18:59:50 <ljp> maybe, to the qtopia snapshot and when I get the time for opieII
Oct 07 19:00:21 <goxboxlive> ok
Oct 07 19:02:59 <BabelO> ljp: qalsamixer look nice ? ;) 
Oct 07 19:03:11 <ljp> its ugly
Oct 07 19:03:17 <ljp> code gui and code :)
Oct 07 19:03:21 <ljp> but it works!
Oct 07 19:03:55 <chouimat> ljp: then go work at xandros ;)
Oct 07 19:04:00 <ljp> ha
Oct 07 19:04:14 <BabelO> ok, after it is time to add some widget plugin for welcome screen like WIFI, BT activated by click or sound volume too
Oct 07 19:04:44 * ljp needs coffee
Oct 07 19:16:29 <zecke> ljp: is .configureoptions in a recent snapshot?
Oct 07 19:18:26 <ljp> I think it should be
Oct 07 20:44:29 <emre_> hi folks, I've got a neo1973 device and installed qtopia on it, can I write my own software and install onto it?
Oct 07 20:47:43 <ljp> sure
Oct 07 20:47:58 <emre_> Is there a tutorial somewhere?
Oct 07 20:48:11 <ljp> right now there is no SDK
Oct 07 20:48:22 <emre_> and no tutorial?
Oct 07 20:48:34 <emre_> can I use the compilers distributed with moko?
Oct 07 20:48:36 <ljp> tutorials on doc.trolltech.com I think
Oct 07 20:48:41 <ljp> yes
Oct 07 20:48:49 <emre_> what about the qt libraries?
Oct 07 20:48:53 <ljp> there is also a toolchain at qtopia.net
Oct 07 20:49:16 <emre_> ok, I downloaded it, but the problem is with qt libraries..
Oct 07 20:52:47 <emre_> what should I do to cross compile a qtopia application working on neo within a linux box?
Oct 07 20:54:13 <ljp> right now you'd have to grab the qtopia sources. build for the ficgta01 device, and then add those libs and such into env and then compile your apps
Oct 07 20:55:57 <ljp> there will be an SDK though
Oct 07 20:56:05 <emre_> ok tnx, I'll give it a try.
Oct 07 20:56:56 <emre_> by the way, is it qt4 or qt3 installed on the qtopia rootfs?
Oct 07 21:06:51 <BabelO> ljp: where is grid menu icon declaration ?
Oct 07 21:22:53 <ljp> etc/defaultbuttons.conf
Oct 07 21:23:13 <ljp> emre_: qt4. the qtopia sources have everything it needs
Oct 07 21:27:58 <emre_> ok, thanks.
Oct 07 21:30:59 <emre_> is there any compressed audio file format which I can play with qtopia?
Oct 07 21:33:37 <ljp> yes and no.
Oct 07 21:34:14 <ljp> helix works with qtopia, and comes with mp3, etc. but you have to build it yourself, and the qtopia helix source release at helixcommunity is not been updated yet
Oct 07 21:34:30 <ljp> you can also try building qtopia with gstreamer support
Oct 07 21:34:41 <emre_> hmm. but why not ogg ?
Oct 07 21:34:53 <ljp> there is also the qss2 solution at qtopia.net, but it needs updating to 4.3 too
Oct 07 21:35:15 <ljp> becuase I dont have that setup yet, as helix does distribute the ogg sources.
Oct 07 21:35:19 <emre_> hehe.
Oct 07 21:35:22 <ljp> does not
Oct 07 21:35:26 <emre_> life's really hard :)
Oct 07 21:35:40 <ljp> i wish I could distribute our internal images
Oct 07 21:38:22 <emre_> you're working for trolltech?
Oct 07 21:39:23 <ljp> yes
Oct 07 21:39:50 <emre_> so, congratulations you've done really nice job with qtopia.
Oct 07 21:42:09 <ljp> thanks
Oct 07 21:43:10 <emre_> I loved the keyboard. the media player fast forward/backward effect is sweet. and many things..
Oct 07 21:44:44 <emre_> So, I know whom to bug after I download the sources.. thanks for your help, bye.
Oct 07 21:45:31 <ljp> bug #qtopia :)
Oct 07 21:46:10 <emre_> hehe. not the bugs. I'm gonna try to set up the build environment.
Oct 07 21:46:39 <emre_> First thing I should set up a turkish dictionary and maybe a turkish keyboard layout, too. 
Oct 07 21:47:11 <emre_> probably, gonna try to compile a compressed audio encoder for whatever sound system there is on qtopia.
Oct 07 21:47:28 <emre_> s/encoder/decoder
Oct 07 21:47:45 <ljp> look at the qss sources at qtopia.net.
Oct 07 21:48:00 <emre_> Ok, I will. got to sleep now. bye.
Oct 07 22:32:23 <angasule> hello
Oct 07 22:33:07 <angasule> question, there is a -sysconfdir <dir> option when configuring qtopia-core, but is it used anywhere? it apparently didn't create it for me...
Oct 07 22:48:22 <angasule> hmm, fonts can't be installed outside of the lib directory?
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