**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 20 02:59:56 2007 Oct 20 03:22:52 night Oct 20 09:45:09 ljp: the date and time changes on each reboot. Do you know? Oct 20 09:45:57 yes Oct 20 09:46:09 /etc/init.d/date/sh Oct 20 09:46:12 /etc/init.d/date.sh Oct 20 09:46:19 ok, i'll try Oct 20 09:46:52 something is a bit odd, though cause sometimes the date is not written correctly Oct 20 09:47:10 ljp: and...where are the contacts stored? Oct 20 09:47:21 in the database Oct 20 09:47:31 or on the sim Oct 20 09:47:43 oh...so just a backup of the database is needed Oct 20 09:48:01 ah...the sim contacts import/export now works? Fine. Oct 20 09:48:10 works for me Oct 20 09:48:19 always has though Oct 20 09:48:37 i have to try then Oct 20 09:51:05 is networking working for you? Oct 20 09:52:19 depends on what? ssh? yes Oct 20 09:52:41 i haven't tested voip Oct 20 09:53:21 ljp: i mean the software packages management. Requires internet, right? Oct 20 09:54:22 well. ipkg work, yes. I havet tested qtopia package manager on Neo yet. but i suppose it should work, as long as you configure a network in qtopia Oct 20 09:55:21 ok! Oct 20 09:55:51 should be nice to show the latest tasks on the desktop too, like openmoko Oct 20 09:56:33 hold the AUX button Oct 20 09:57:03 oh really? I didn't know. Thanks :) Oct 20 10:06:14 ljp: by pressing the aux button i get only the "Running" menù. I can't see my tasks Oct 20 10:07:06 ljp: oh...now i get it. Oct 20 10:12:25 ljp: take a look here: Oct 20 10:12:25 ssh root@192.168.0.202 Oct 20 10:12:25 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: Connection timed out Oct 20 10:12:30 any idea? Oct 20 10:13:47 dont know. havent had any problems with ssh connections Oct 20 10:20:08 ljp: ok, the internet works :) Oct 20 10:20:16 --- 64.62.219.224 ping statistics --- Oct 20 10:20:17 4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss Oct 20 10:35:04 :) Oct 20 10:36:41 ljp: umh...no, the date and time fails again :/ Oct 20 11:28:05 hi Oct 20 11:29:10 little developper question, i have a mime-type and data corresponding, how can i open this in qtopia ? Oct 20 11:31:46 there are QLileType and QMimeData, but got issue wth that Oct 20 15:04:23 morning Oct 20 15:43:10 afternoon ;-) Oct 20 15:43:34 hello all Oct 20 15:44:44 does anyone know if the greenphone grant program allows the use of QPE-4.3? Oct 20 15:45:22 http://trolltech.com/developer/tt/grant/grantglines says we are obliged to use 4.2.2 Oct 20 15:45:56 but I guess that is only because Qtopia wasn't completely GPL yet Oct 20 15:46:06 I didn't think QPE 4.3 was available yet? (and I don't know about the grant programme I'm afraid) Oct 20 15:46:13 now everyone can flash the latest version Oct 20 15:46:35 well, there is Qtopia-4.3-opensource tech preview Oct 20 15:47:41 true. I forget that other people have succeeded in building that - I haven't had any joy when I've tried... Oct 20 15:48:41 Stecchino: if you don't use something 4.3 specific it should run on 4.2.x anyway... Oct 20 15:49:26 4.3 qtopia looks much nicer though ;) Oct 20 15:49:30 but i bet it's fine to commit 4.3 stuff given that it then will also run on the neo ;) Oct 20 15:49:44 EgS: well it's actually just a theme ;) Oct 20 15:49:49 sure :) Oct 20 15:50:09 EgS: thats what 4.2.x looked for me as i used it: http://sse2.net/gp/ Oct 20 15:50:26 at devdays the Qtopia Help Desk guy (Jørgen) said, that there's no reason to not flash to 4.3 Oct 20 15:50:48 except the flash is not current snapshots :) Oct 20 15:51:02 jeah that's right... they said that too Oct 20 15:51:11 but you can build it Oct 20 15:51:21 hey there Oct 20 15:51:34 you should build it if you want to *use* 4.3 ;-) Oct 20 15:51:48 I managed to build the 4.3 snapshot for x86, I still struggle to get the greenphone version working... trolltech screwed up big time with the helix stuff I guess :/ Oct 20 15:52:19 well a bit.. the problem is that helix licensing sucks in the first place.. Oct 20 15:52:43 jott: s/licensing// ;) Oct 20 15:52:46 maybe they manage to bug the helixcommunity team to make release a proper snapshot one day ;) Oct 20 15:52:55 ls Oct 20 15:53:02 chouimat: hehe..well it's not THAT bad ;) Oct 20 15:53:03 Sput: what did you build it on? Oct 20 15:53:23 linux Oct 20 15:53:23 as its quite fast Oct 20 15:53:45 thing is, there is almost no docs for the helix stuff... found the FAQ on the qtopia site, but it does not work that way Oct 20 15:53:52 I'm hoping for a fast integration of Phonon myself Oct 20 15:53:57 hello all Oct 20 15:54:06 For a music app that makes a lot of sense. Oct 20 15:54:15 Stecchino: yeah but thats queued for 4.4 or later.. :/ Oct 20 15:54:29 I got the sources and the build system, but it doesn't seem to work with simple copypaste, trolltech is missing some *.cfs which I now added manually.. we'll see if it builds now Oct 20 15:54:42 and still helix is just a api and not the engine ;) Oct 20 15:54:47 erm phonon Oct 20 15:54:48 jott: that is what I'm targeting for Amarok Mobile Oct 20 15:55:15 don't want to waste all that time on a Helix version Oct 20 15:56:01 Stecchino: yeah well helix is just an engine in qtopia.. you just have to manage to build it and not use its api for playback ;) Oct 20 15:56:57 the building part is the caveat here Oct 20 15:57:02 indeed Oct 20 15:57:10 i gave up on it and did not want to waste time Oct 20 15:57:22 also nice that it takes 4 hours or so until the SDK reaches the point where it silently fails on helix Oct 20 15:57:24 even though the sources are there, the build script is there... Oct 20 15:57:33 but given that tt or helixcommunity may manage to put a snapshot live it would make things quite easy.. Oct 20 15:57:44 given that 4.2.x had no real problem with building helix ;) Oct 20 15:58:04 it didn't? k Oct 20 15:58:31 Sput: yeah the late build-error really drives one mad ;) Oct 20 15:58:41 I don't mind getting stuff myself via cvs or whatever, but at least I'd like to have working docs as to how to install it Oct 20 15:58:52 yes ..well for 4.2.x there is a ready snapshot that works with the supplied .pro files Oct 20 15:59:19 for 4.3 you currently need to get a proper cvs snapshot *somehow* Oct 20 15:59:27 as its not straightforward ;) Oct 20 16:00:05 for some reason the greenphone skin is to large, is there a way to resize qvfb? Oct 20 16:00:22 worskforme Oct 20 16:00:27 worksformetoo :p Oct 20 16:00:29 Stecchino: do you use the runqtopia script? Oct 20 16:00:53 Sput: no, runqvfb and runqpe Oct 20 16:01:00 hm they also work for me Oct 20 16:01:22 check you have export QWS_DISPLAY=QVFb:mmWidth34:mmHeight44:0 set before starting qpe Oct 20 16:01:41 actually you don't need runqvfb Oct 20 16:01:56 should be enough to start home-runqpe in the /opt/Qtopia... dir Oct 20 16:02:01 same thing with runqtopia Oct 20 16:02:08 will try with QWS_ Oct 20 16:02:43 same thing Oct 20 16:02:53 what's the exact problem? Oct 20 16:02:57 ehm, is it just the skin? Oct 20 16:02:59 (screenshsot?!) Oct 20 16:03:02 is the screen of the greenphone really 240x320? Oct 20 16:03:05 yes Oct 20 16:03:18 their is the probelm Oct 20 16:03:22 because if the whole thing is too large, there is a zoom slider :) Oct 20 16:03:24 yeah it is Oct 20 16:04:07 zoomed it to 0.75 Oct 20 16:04:13 allright now Oct 20 16:04:31 * Stecchino need to hook up his 27"er for this Oct 20 16:04:48 but then I don't have a TV Oct 20 16:04:51 gf will complain Oct 20 16:05:05 I know, it's a luxury problem Oct 20 16:05:11 hehe she can watch the greenphone live developer channel :) Oct 20 16:05:21 *g* Oct 20 16:05:31 there is a greenphone channel as well? Oct 20 16:05:42 no.. tv channel ;) just kidding Oct 20 16:07:04 oh Oct 20 16:07:23 *dsch* Oct 20 16:07:24 didn't connect that to the real world Oct 20 16:08:19 I'm gonna make you all very jealous and say I have a build cluster to, at work though Oct 20 16:08:46 along with those 4 PS3's we use for development (and some relaxation) :D Oct 20 16:08:47 * chouimat has one at home and work (ok it;'s the same but ;) Oct 20 16:09:02 hehe i can use the "build cluster" at university :) Oct 20 16:09:20 chouimat: how many CPU Oct 20 16:09:51 5 Oct 20 16:10:13 I win, we have 5 core 2 duo's Oct 20 16:10:19 that makes 10 CPU's Oct 20 16:10:23 bah Oct 20 16:10:38 to bad I'm not allowed to use the quad-core server Oct 20 16:10:43 Stecchino: yah right but I must say I pee farther ;) Oct 20 16:11:06 :)) Oct 20 16:11:10 have another computer lab, 12 core 2 duo's with 4GB ram Oct 20 16:11:23 but those are running windows XP right now Oct 20 16:11:34 i can use 40 cores ;) Oct 20 16:11:38 they will be used for aKademy 2008 though Oct 20 16:13:38 * Stecchino is waiting for someone to put us all to shame by running his own transterpreter compiler on a gazillion FPGA gates... Oct 20 16:13:53 * Stecchino hungry to > lunch Oct 20 16:14:03 * Stecchino hungry to > nope dinner :) Oct 20 16:14:18 Stecchino: who cares about this one that will just prove he has no life Oct 20 16:15:37 chouimat|lunch: the compiler will be ready before he even started the task.. so he has alot of additional real-life time *g* Oct 20 16:18:51 who needs real life... that's for people who don't have friends on IRC... Oct 20 16:19:41 oh i thought irc IS the real life *gg* Oct 20 16:21:02 is anyone here interested in packaging qtopia for debian? Oct 20 16:21:11 qtopia-core, I mean Oct 20 16:21:22 uh debian Oct 20 16:21:24 I won't touch that again Oct 20 16:22:37 angasule: use checkinstall :p Oct 20 16:23:37 I'm working on a .deb for debian, then *ubuntu, then probably gentoo Oct 20 16:23:38 but i guess the build instructions should not be that different to the qt4 package Oct 20 16:24:21 as long as you don't try to get helix support *cough* Oct 20 16:24:29 hopefully not, I'm already in contact with the debian-qt-kde folks Oct 20 16:24:35 Sput: qtopia-core does not even support helix ;) Oct 20 16:24:39 ah ok Oct 20 16:25:37 angasule: sed -i 's/qt4/qtopia4/g' debian/* :p Oct 20 16:28:04 gentoo: mkdir qtopia; cp qt/qt-4.3.2.ebuild qtopia/qtopia-4.3.2.ebuild ;) Oct 20 16:28:18 well probably its not *that* easy in both cases ;) Oct 20 16:32:23 gentoo doesn't have qtopia Oct 20 16:34:47 I know, no distro has qtopia AFAIK Oct 20 16:41:59 openembedded has ;) Oct 20 16:42:24 even if its technically no real distribution ;) Oct 20 16:48:00 jott did you already use QMimeData ? Oct 20 16:48:40 uhm.. yes for d&d.. Oct 20 16:48:56 but qtopia has no d&d support :p Oct 20 16:49:15 what do you want to do? Oct 20 16:49:28 jott i use it to get avatar for IM contact Oct 20 16:49:32 mimeData->setData( avatar->mimeType() , avatar->data() ); Oct 20 16:49:38 setPixmap( QPixmap::fromImage( qvariant_cast(mimeData->imageData()) ) ); Oct 20 16:49:50 my widget is from a QLabel Oct 20 16:50:21 when i ask mime type it say image/png but hasImage does not work :( Oct 20 16:52:37 is the data() correct? ;) Oct 20 16:52:59 i m not speaking fluent QByteArray, but it seem yes :) Oct 20 16:55:59 this is hasImage: return hasFormat(QLatin1String("application/x-qt-image")); Oct 20 16:56:28 ok, that's why ;) Oct 20 16:57:04 maybe using just QImage would be easier ;) Oct 20 16:57:51 jott : yes i use QImage to sset it in QPixmap into Qlabel ;) Oct 20 16:58:12 humm Oct 20 16:58:32 setPixmap( QPixmap::fromImage( qvariant_cast(avatar->data()) ) ); Oct 20 16:58:44 this is directly from QtTapioca::Avatar Oct 20 17:02:29 hmm i think i know why i see nothing Oct 20 17:03:02 i ve no libpng on my device :( Oct 20 17:03:22 need to rebuild full qtopia :( Oct 20 17:03:25 :O Oct 20 17:03:30 qtopia ships with libpng Oct 20 17:03:35 ah Oct 20 17:06:57 i can force mime type on my mimeData->setData( ""application/x-qt-image , avatar->data() ); Oct 20 17:07:29 ok, I have fed. back to hacking. Oct 20 17:08:16 is the ->data actually castable to qimage? Oct 20 17:09:07 jott i actually try like this qvariant_cast(avatar->data()) Oct 20 17:09:33 but as it is a qbytearray Oct 20 17:10:26 hm then you probably need QImage::loadFromData Oct 20 17:11:09 if its a png in a qbytearray Oct 20 17:11:49 ah i see the function now ;à this class is very huge Oct 20 17:11:54 i try , thx Oct 20 17:12:26 http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=15a34f11-e9b1-4a63-a436-223cb7d55509 Oct 20 17:12:33 oops wrong window Oct 20 17:13:21 nice one though :) Oct 20 17:17:45 jott it is ok ;) i m so happy, one afternoon to get contact list with picture ;) now i need to try sending full im in UI Oct 20 17:18:03 need a little resize though Oct 20 17:19:30 and also a little svg to have nice widget look & feel ;) Oct 20 17:24:56 BabelO: and use QContactModel ;) Oct 20 17:26:59 jott: i have tried with this idea , do you have a small sample ? actually i create my contact inside a QTanWidget -> my Widget -> myContactWidget Oct 20 17:29:20 ah i see with QContactListView ... Oct 20 17:29:50 rohh so it is fully themable ;) i love this idea Oct 20 17:30:20 well its model/view, "interview" ;) Oct 20 17:30:27 so make use of it.. it rocks ;) Oct 20 17:31:16 qcontactmodel provides full access to all contact data so you can fetch voip# from it or exchange avatar pictures Oct 20 17:31:24 jott yes since this part is opensource, i can try now ;) it look easy to do it, i post a screenshot tomorrow, i m now able to connect to all im protocol Oct 20 17:32:12 jott i understand, can i add more properties to its view, like webcam, audio call ? Oct 20 17:33:21 uhm well qcontactmodel is actually just a "model" abstraction of the pim data Oct 20 17:33:31 you can use a view to display it.. Oct 20 17:33:38 or a different view ;) Oct 20 17:34:00 BabelO: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.0/qt4-interview.html Oct 20 17:34:06 s/4.0/4.3/ Oct 20 17:35:39 jott i see that http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qcontactlistview.html Oct 20 17:35:52 but then my app can't compile with qtopia 4.2 :( Oct 20 17:36:42 why not? Oct 20 17:37:02 hum for compatibility purpose i think i create my own widget like actually by override paintEvent Oct 20 17:37:59 that's what delegates are for in interview ;) Oct 20 17:39:37 * chouimat|away decides to go take a long walk to fetch some cheese and beer Oct 20 17:42:13 jott: ah i understand what you mean with interview, but should take more time to me to do that i think :( Oct 20 17:44:50 hm maybe if you are not familar with mvc design patterns ;) Oct 20 17:46:08 jott really not :( i continue with my idea, anyway it is a separate class file named contactwidget, i just add same entry as for contactmodelview, so it is compatible to future replacement Oct 21 01:04:41 * gw280 lalas Oct 21 01:04:43 * gw280 waves to ljp Oct 21 01:04:50 hey gw280 Oct 21 01:05:10 hey chouimat **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 21 02:59:56 2007