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Nov 26 09:47:23 <BabelO> Sput around ?
Nov 26 09:47:26 <BabelO> hi
Nov 26 10:11:49 <Sput> BabelO: soonish, need to migrate to my workplace first :)
Nov 26 10:18:16 <BabelO> Sput: did you try same pkg.doamin as qtopia application and also no_taget_sxe ?
Nov 26 10:50:21 <st_lim> Hi goxboxlive,
Nov 26 10:50:32 <st_lim> my qtopia is still not working...
Nov 26 10:50:48 <st_lim> I've updated to the latest qtopia you package...
Nov 26 10:50:52 <st_lim> 4.3.1
Nov 26 10:50:58 <st_lim> booted it up,
Nov 26 10:51:17 <st_lim> and it says "no network" even though I have a SIM card put in.
Nov 26 10:57:03 <Sput> BabelO: yep
Nov 26 10:59:01 <Vernaldo> hey
Nov 26 11:01:03 <goxboxlive> st_lim: Yes i know there are others who have the same problem. But the mine is working. Sometimes i have to restart Qtopia to make it work, but mostly it runs at once. Did you have the same problem with 4.3.0?
Nov 26 11:07:06 <Vernaldo> goxboxlive: do you test qtopia on hardware?
Nov 26 11:08:09 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: yes i am running it on HTC Universal, HTC Magician and Motorola A780. But it's only HTC Universal we have the phone and sms working
Nov 26 11:08:40 <Vernaldo> goxboxlive: I have a motorola ming a1200 and heard a rumor that it is possible to test qtopia here.
Nov 26 11:09:41 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: I have made a Qtopia image for A780 wicch you can test. Just replace the A780 kernel zImage and modules with the ones for A1200. It think it will work.
Nov 26 11:09:59 <Vernaldo> hmm. ok. where do you host them?
Nov 26 11:10:32 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/A780/images/
Nov 26 11:11:21 <goxboxlive> And if it worjks you can fine tune the screen size in the qpe.sz file. Edit motoroal section.
Nov 26 11:11:33 <goxboxlive> sorry qpe.sh
Nov 26 11:14:20 <Vernaldo> I hate and despise the A1200's bundled system. 
Nov 26 11:15:46 <Vernaldo> MontaVista
Nov 26 11:17:25 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: you have to use Openezx kernel zImage, not the one provided with your phone
Nov 26 11:17:28 <Vernaldo> what's the status on qtopia and montavista? are they related? competitors? coopetitors? I am curious of qtopia underpinnings
Nov 26 11:18:50 <Vernaldo> I was trying to find a walkthrough in a guide, i was on this now http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/integration-guide.html
Nov 26 11:26:58 <st_lim> goxboxlive: yes.  I had the same problem with 4.3.0.  When chatting with you, we thought the problem was with the SIM lock
Nov 26 11:27:08 <st_lim> or Phone lock.  But my SIM is not locked.
Nov 26 11:27:28 <st_lim> How do I know what the status of the phone is like via ssh??
Nov 26 11:29:05 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: Have no idea about montavista
Nov 26 11:29:38 <Vernaldo> umm. no. wait, is that a question? or is it a statement?
Nov 26 11:29:43 <goxboxlive> st_lim: read my last post in xda forums, thread linux og htcuniversal and follow the guideline
Nov 26 11:30:31 <st_lim> hmmm
Nov 26 11:31:02 <st_lim> linux on htcuniversal?
Nov 26 11:31:37 <st_lim> hi,
Nov 26 11:32:09 <st_lim> Like I said, I did install and run qtopia 4.3.1 based on the instructions you posted there.  BTW, that's excellent instructions.
Nov 26 11:32:15 <st_lim> Qtopia started and loaded...
Nov 26 11:32:30 <goxboxlive> Vernaldo: i have no idea abot relation between Trolltech and Montevista. I guess montevista is running qtopia 2.x or something.
Nov 26 11:32:39 <st_lim> the problem was that the SIM or the phone network was not detected.
Nov 26 11:33:05 <st_lim> I waited 5 mins plus plus and the phone still says "no network"
Nov 26 11:34:01 <Vernaldo> goxboxlive: I'm sorry, I'm unable to find your xda thread. 
Nov 26 11:35:35 <st_lim> Vernaldo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1680178#post1680178
Nov 26 11:36:18 <Vernaldo> st_lim: thank you.
Nov 26 11:39:44 <Sput> oh, 4.3.1 is out?
Nov 26 11:42:13 <goxboxlive> Sput: just snapshot
Nov 26 11:42:49 <Sput> ah k
Nov 26 11:42:54 <st_lim> goxboxlive: how do you debug the phone interface??
Nov 26 11:43:00 <Sput> anybody managed to compile that for the greenphone with helix?
Nov 26 11:43:16 <st_lim> anyway I can have a go since you dun have the problem but me and blackknight seem to have...
Nov 26 11:43:46 <Vernaldo> Sput: was the greenphone emulation software only available with the greenphone?
Nov 26 11:43:57 <Sput> Vernaldo: nope, that's part of the SDK
Nov 26 11:44:03 <goxboxlive> st_lim: like i wrote in the thread. Dont wait after starting Qtopia, if it doesnt work after a min, then restart Qtopia. You will see if it works with the signal bar
Nov 26 11:44:43 <st_lim> well, it dun work...
Nov 26 11:53:54 <goxboxlive> ok, send me the log and i'll tajke a look where it breaks
Nov 26 11:54:19 <st_lim> /var/log/messages?
Nov 26 11:55:12 <st_lim> booting up...
Nov 26 12:24:36 <st_lim> How do I view the logs??
Nov 26 12:26:57 <st_lim> goxboxlive: How do I send you the dmesg??
Nov 26 12:30:04 <goxboxlive> st_lim: not dmesg, at chat log 
Nov 26 12:30:19 <goxboxlive> just my nick and gmail .
Nov 26 12:30:38 <st_lim> your current image does not start syslogd properly...
Nov 26 12:30:44 <st_lim> so there was no messages logged at all
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