**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 27 02:59:57 2007 Nov 27 09:09:44 hi Nov 27 09:09:58 jott: around for some help ? ;) Nov 27 09:19:59 hey BabelO, any progress on the hardware front? Nov 27 09:20:01 nobody seems to be able to help in here :/ Nov 27 09:22:35 Sput: i m using jott oe setup for greenphone to create library for gp in a clean way Nov 27 09:23:26 Did you try to force your own path for QSetting or just overload create file Nov 27 09:25:12 hey.. i'm on the run.. but just ask :) Nov 27 09:25:59 BabelO: I didn't force/create anything, I just use QSettings as usual.. Nov 27 09:26:01 apparently it wants to write into /home/Settings// as usual and is not allowed to do Nov 27 09:26:04 that must be a bug, really Nov 27 09:26:59 I even checked for available pkg.domains in the qtopia source and didn't find anything that would allow writing in QSettings, though I might be wrong there Nov 27 09:31:43 Sput: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/sxe-pkgmgr.html have you seen this? Nov 27 09:31:57 " in the case of a QSettings file something like Qtopia::sandboxDir() + "/etc/mysettings.conf" should be supplied as a fileName parameter." Nov 27 09:33:09 oh Nov 27 09:33:14 nope, I didn't find this Nov 27 09:33:21 I will evaluate this later, thx very much Nov 27 09:41:44 Sput: btw. this was the first google hit of "sxe qsettings" ;) Nov 27 09:46:16 jott, can you explain how you build with OE for GP ? Nov 27 09:56:02 jott: must be quite new though, last time I googled for it I didn't find it :) Nov 27 09:56:06 or maybe I didn't realize that it's hidden on that page Nov 27 09:58:11 hm, it'll be interesting to see if this md5sum is computed from the package itself...because it wouldn't make much sense if any change to the package would start a new settings dir... Nov 27 10:33:15 jott i recompile a bootstrap image, i hope it works after that ;) Nov 27 10:35:25 yeah, well, apparently settings are stored with the package, so you have to re-enter everything on package upgrade... but better than nothing, I s'pose :) Nov 27 10:36:56 Sput: good then ;) Nov 27 10:37:25 So my app never work on phone then Nov 27 10:38:59 BabelO: dunno yet if mine works Nov 27 10:39:01 I have yet to change my QSettings where I use it Nov 27 10:42:26 Sput: ok, i m compiling fresh librarie for qtopia 4.3.0 and gp Nov 27 10:42:38 Sput: i hope it works Nov 27 10:53:59 yeah, let's hope for the best Nov 27 10:54:15 now building for the greenphone, with fixed QSettings Nov 27 10:54:22 thank god I had that already at a central location Nov 27 10:54:59 I expect my app to crash though, at least it used to crash on 4.2 :/ Nov 27 11:09:29 ok, apprently Qtopia::sandboxDir() is not always set -_- Nov 27 11:35:59 known bug that hasn't been fixed yet... oh well. Nov 27 11:36:01 you guys are making it quite hard :) Nov 27 11:36:04 ljp: you mentioned a non-sxe flash image for qtopia 4.3.0, where can I find that? Nov 27 12:21:21 Sput: build it with -no-sxe :) Nov 27 12:22:04 jott: I cannot build the SDK, it still bails out at helix Nov 27 12:22:06 at least it did last time I tried Nov 27 12:22:10 and yes, I used the new helix snapshot Nov 27 12:23:25 BabelO: erm regarding oe: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=commonuse_prebuilt_toolchain i just provided everything in the SDK via ASSUME_PROVIDED Nov 27 12:23:43 Sput: why not build without helix? :) Nov 27 12:24:05 hmmm, I could do that... but doesn't stuff cease to work then? Nov 27 12:24:33 no.. i never had helix in my 4.3 builds and i use the phone on a daily basis ;) Nov 27 12:25:24 well yes the mediaplayer does not work and mp3 ringtones but i never used both of them Nov 27 12:25:25 hmmmm Nov 27 12:26:04 how did you build the flash image? using the scripts (greenphone-make-sdk)? Nov 27 12:26:06 I'd rather not touch /opt/Qtopia for that Nov 27 12:26:34 both work fine.. the sdk builds a complete 4.3 host/target including flash image.. Nov 27 12:26:46 or you just configure with -device greenphone Nov 27 12:27:08 and -no-sxe ;) Nov 27 12:29:07 hm ok Nov 27 12:29:18 so I need to add -sdk to get the flash image, right? Nov 27 12:30:30 why oh why did they hardcode the paths in all their scripts... Nov 27 13:08:42 i presume EXTRA_CONFIG +=" -mediaengines cruxus" is ok too ? Nov 27 13:10:51 jott: ok , i ve to clean my build system... so i rebuilt a bootstrap-image and i hope dbus-glib will build without problem.... Nov 27 13:11:15 jott and i hope i can install ipk on sxe image Nov 27 13:13:57 ok Nov 27 13:14:08 good morning Nov 27 13:14:25 good morning chouimat|away Nov 27 13:14:42 redddddddddddddddddddddddd Nov 27 13:14:57 sorry the cat doesn't want me to type and go to work this morning Nov 27 13:15:10 lol Nov 27 13:15:58 chouimat what is your version of qtopia ??? latest image for 4.3.0 ? Nov 27 13:16:26 chouimat|away: i start to rebuild qss2 for gp with correct toolchain Nov 27 13:16:29 4.3.0 of 11/01 iirc Nov 27 13:16:37 thx Nov 27 13:16:49 strange mine is 29/10 Nov 27 13:16:55 10/29 for you ;) Nov 27 13:17:04 BabelO: hehe Nov 27 13:18:36 chouimat|away: what is EST 11:59 ? Nov 27 13:18:39 EST ? Nov 27 13:18:49 GMT+0 ? Nov 27 13:18:57 Eastern Standard Time (GMT-5) Nov 27 13:19:47 ah ah so your time, i ve to convert it to mine ;) Nov 27 13:20:47 so i leave in the future like ljp , lol Nov 27 13:21:12 hehe Nov 27 13:21:18 oups it was live Nov 27 13:21:53 so i ned to send app on 29 th last delay Nov 27 13:22:26 better to do like that Nov 27 13:22:37 BabelO: en passsant j'ai du fun avec les anglais ici: Vous savez les dernieres lettres d'un mots en francais sont muette donc un nom comme Perreault se prononce prfffffff Nov 27 13:23:35 :) Nov 27 13:25:14 BabelO: we moved in the new office last friday and yesterday some people discovered the beauty of the open space concept: "eh! Support Guy I lost My Internet connection!!!" Nov 27 13:25:15 chouimat|away: tout depend si c'est le nord de la france ou le sud qui prononce ce nom là Nov 27 13:25:44 BabelO: je connais juste 2 ou 3 prononciation nord americaine Nov 27 13:26:36 chouimat|away: here too, we are in an open space... my chief is from montreal, a cowroker is from houston... and i did not understand when they speak together :( Nov 27 13:27:23 BabelO: you need a few class about "pre revolution french" and you will be ok ;) Nov 27 13:27:57 yes, i think so Nov 27 13:29:14 ok OE just finish to update :) Nov 27 13:30:37 ok time to go to work ... Nov 27 15:08:09 * Sput is now trying to flash his greenphone with his first self-made flash image Nov 27 15:10:08 Sput: you upload your image for the grant program ? ;) Nov 27 15:10:17 nope Nov 27 15:10:22 I am flashing my phone Nov 27 15:10:33 hoping that my self-made qtopia flash image works Nov 27 15:10:34 ok, so you built without sxe Nov 27 15:10:36 without sxe Nov 27 15:10:39 ok Nov 27 15:11:09 and without helix Nov 27 15:27:26 hm, doesn't boot :( Nov 27 15:50:55 Sput: i think we have to send source code instead of package ;) or maybe i send package for neoinstead ;) Nov 27 15:52:25 yeah, I am going to send source as well Nov 27 15:52:38 you still don't know what the deadline is for anyways, do you? Nov 27 15:53:31 Sput: deadline is GMT -5 like chouimat|work says Nov 27 15:54:13 yes... but what happens then... Nov 27 15:54:21 BabelO: so you have until Dec 1st at 04:59 your time ... I know I won't be able to get my crap working in time Nov 27 15:54:42 we can keep our devices in any case, I guess... at least it didn't say otherwise anyways Nov 27 15:55:01 chouimat|work: mine is working on device, but not be able to do clean package :( Nov 27 15:55:13 and all ljp tells me is that he probably has to review the apps, but doesn't know what happens then Nov 27 15:55:48 mine is not working at all and I don't have time to fix it ... when I get back home I'm too tired to do anything so it's food + some tv and then sleep around 22:00 Nov 27 15:56:15 mine only works in the simulator. Nov 27 16:20:22 chouimat|work: i like to looak a that http://www.tetesaclaques.tv/ :) Nov 27 16:21:02 BabelO: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Nov 27 16:21:58 chouimat|work: and special for this one "Le Willi Waller" , i like it Nov 27 16:25:59 BabelO: I don't like them much Nov 27 16:32:08 chouimat|work: it is good for me to understand what my coworker say sometimes :) Nov 27 16:32:20 hehe Nov 27 16:32:40 BabelO: thinks like . "LUC INTERNET MARCHE PUS!!!" Nov 27 16:34:49 chouimat|work: non , des expressions de language, par exemple " je vais sauver du temps" pour dire "je vais gagner du temps", il parle souvent de tipit aussi ;) Nov 27 16:36:19 BabelO: hehe ... Nov 27 16:38:39 BabelO: sauver du temps is the direct translation of "save time" ;) Nov 27 18:55:37 BabelO: do you have qss2 compiled? Nov 27 18:56:04 chouimat|work: yes but i need to compile mad, because you want mp3 ;) Nov 27 18:56:12 \ Nov 27 18:56:16 hehe Nov 27 18:56:26 jott: can you provide me some OE package for gp image ? Nov 27 20:27:00 BabelO: sorry.. lost the setup due to hdd crash :( Nov 27 20:27:32 jott: no problem... i don't know how can i do.. at OE they can"t help Nov 27 20:28:09 well as i said...basically i ASSUME_PROVIDED everything in the SDK .. Nov 27 20:28:36 jott: i know that but compile fail on glib and it complain about libiconv :( Nov 27 20:28:38 and bootstrapped ipkg Nov 27 20:28:51 mh.. Nov 27 20:29:10 jott: i ve backuped your greenphone config for oe ;) Nov 27 20:29:15 * jott scratches this sounds familiar Nov 27 20:29:46 i did indeed something to fix it as you just mention it .. ;) Nov 27 20:29:52 but i can't remember what :p Nov 27 20:32:37 echo -e '#include \n int main(){int i=2; if (-10*abs(i-1) == 10*abs(i-1)) printf("muhaha");}' | gcc -xc - -o haha && ./haha Nov 27 20:32:41 :p Nov 27 20:32:44 jott: i restart build again, if you can remember about this fix ;) Nov 27 20:33:33 what s that ;) Nov 27 20:33:43 funny gcc bug ;P Nov 27 20:33:52 -10*abs(i-1) == 10*abs(i-1) ;) Nov 27 20:34:41 jott i ve something like with .NET if you want to compare double Nov 27 20:34:46 same bug in delphi Nov 27 20:35:53 hehe yeah compiler bugs are the best bugs indeed ;) Nov 27 21:18:36 jott this is the message gconvert.c:48:2: error: #error GNU libiconv not in use but included iconv.h is from libiconv **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 28 02:59:56 2007