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Dec 07 05:22:15 <rohanpm> jott: I just watched someone remove a greenphone battery from the case
Dec 07 05:22:26 <rohanpm> by simply prying it out with a screwdriver
Dec 07 05:22:54 <rohanpm> there's a thin foil layer on top, it's difficult not to damage it.  the battery is attached to both the case and the foil cover by strong double-sided tape.
Dec 07 06:13:17 <goxboxlive> morning
Dec 07 23:22:03 <woglinde> hms the greenphone qtopia4.3.0.iso ist total useless
Dec 07 23:34:47 <jott> woglinde: is it?! it is finally easy to extract the sdk without a vm ..
Dec 07 23:42:04 <woglinde> jott the partitions beside rootfs contains crap
Dec 07 23:42:31 <jott> you can just mount the .iso in the iso (forgot the name)
Dec 07 23:42:43 <jott> this contains the sdk and toolchain as .tar.gz
Dec 07 23:43:03 <jott> and extract it on your host
Dec 07 23:43:13 <woglinde> args
Dec 07 23:43:21 <woglinde> what a mess
Dec 07 23:43:40 <jott> hm well i prefer this to a vm, but that's personal taste ;)
Dec 07 23:43:51 <jott> (and probably the "unoffical" way)
Dec 07 23:44:24 <jott> worked without any trouble here..
Dec 07 23:44:31 <woglinde> so the .iso was a quick dirty hack
Dec 07 23:45:10 <jott> i can't tell you but it's not totally unlikely ;) (i never used the 4.3 vm at all)
Dec 07 23:46:08 <jott> they should have put the sdk.tar.gz and toolchain.tar.gz into the root of the iso and not "hide" it in another .iso
Dec 07 23:46:43 <jott> but i assume the installer extracts this into the vm.. but who knows.. i don't even care.. ;)
Dec 07 23:46:56 <woglinde> hrhrh seems so
Dec 07 23:57:03 <woglinde> jott do you have the windows flash tool?
Dec 07 23:57:14 <woglinde> which install a new bootloader?
Dec 07 23:57:20 <jott> no, sorry..
Dec 07 23:57:29 <jott> maybe someone else in here
Dec 08 00:03:27 <jott> it's actually a good time now, 16:00 in L.A. and 10:00 in brisbane and 01:00 here, everybody should be awake now :)
Dec 08 01:31:39 <ljp> vmware mounts the qtopia/iso which contains the toolchain and qtopia binaries and copies the files into the vm
Dec 08 01:48:35 <jott> yeah that was my blind guess ;)
Dec 08 01:49:32 <jott> but that there is a simple .tgz to extract the sdk on the host system should be pointed out somewhere i guess
Dec 08 01:49:57 <jott> Unsupported: You can also extract the SDK directly..blabla  in some README
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