**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 12 02:59:57 2007
Dec 12 05:33:07 <goxboxlive> good morning
Dec 12 05:37:04 <bhughes> morning :)
Dec 12 06:14:22 * ljp opens the neuros osd box
Dec 12 06:17:58 * bhughes boots the gumstix :D
Dec 12 06:18:39 <ljp> does that have a display?
Dec 12 06:18:55 <bhughes> yup
Dec 12 06:22:36 <ljp> battery? :)
Dec 12 06:22:44 <bhughes> no :)
Dec 12 06:31:03 <ljp> well, thats boring then
Dec 12 06:33:55 <ljp> should get a neo
Dec 12 07:03:41 <crweb> I'm getting very strange error about "canot find libQtSql.so.4" even though I built sqlite as plugin, and libQt4Sql.so.4 exists in the /lib directory with all the other libs.
Dec 12 07:09:23 <ljp> did you set prefix?
Dec 12 07:19:21 <crweb> i left it default /usr/local/Trolltech/Qtopia-4.3.3
Dec 12 07:20:06 <crweb> and the -L lines during compile show -QtSql and -L/usr/local/Trolltech/QtopiaCore-4.3.3
Dec 12 07:20:21 <crweb> i also left rpath enabled
Dec 12 07:21:07 <crweb> oh, libQt* isn't being found
Dec 12 07:22:34 <crweb> http://pastebin.com/d192aad1
Dec 12 07:23:01 <crweb> i even added the directory to my ldconfig
Dec 12 07:25:09 <ljp> and they exist in /usr/local/Trolltech/Qtopia-4.3.3/lib ?
Dec 12 07:25:57 <crweb> no sorry, it was a typo.  /usr/local/Trolltech/QtopiaCore-4.3.3
Dec 12 07:26:32 <ljp> hmm x86_64 ?
Dec 12 07:26:42 <crweb> yes, it is built on my workstation
Dec 12 07:26:49 <crweb> just for testing/local build
Dec 12 07:27:16 <ljp> bhughes might know more about that. we dont have any 64 bit machines down here
Dec 12 07:29:57 <crweb> even so, rpath should still hold the location of the libs
Dec 12 07:31:52 <crweb> heck, 1/2 my battles with qtopia have been trying to get rpath to NOT point to specific dir.
Dec 12 07:39:43 <crweb> tried setting the prefix. still no go.
Dec 12 07:39:50 <crweb> ldd shows all libs cannot be found
Dec 12 07:48:45 <crweb> ... it seems to just be my 1 application
Dec 12 07:52:34 <crweb> ...
Dec 12 07:53:10 <crweb> my mistake.  I forgot that i added DESTDIR = ../build   I've been trying to run a really old build.
Dec 12 07:53:20 <crweb> so stupidly agrivating :/
Dec 12 07:56:40 <ljp> been there.. done that
Dec 12 08:03:17 <crweb> seems thats one of my #1 reoccuring mistakes
Dec 12 08:14:24 <ljp> :)
Dec 12 08:14:41 <ljp> no worries
Dec 12 09:17:03 <xzcvczx> ljp: wow you are paitient
Dec 12 09:35:59 <ljp> xzcvczx: heh.. i have to be with people like that
Dec 12 09:36:31 <xzcvczx> hes just another effing annoying troll
Dec 12 09:36:39 <ljp> you have to realize that no matter what I come up with, it just isn;t going to be good enough for someone who has their mind made up
Dec 12 09:36:47 <xzcvczx> yeah
Dec 12 09:37:04 <ljp> its the old kde vs gnome argument that has been happening for years
Dec 12 09:37:07 <xzcvczx> i cant believe he is calling qtopia a hinderace though
Dec 12 09:37:27 <ljp> ya odd.
Dec 12 09:37:50 <ljp> or that maturing and stability dont matter
Dec 12 09:37:55 <ljp> maturity
Dec 12 09:47:32 <crweb> anyone know why i would be getting duplicate messages on QCopChannel, when i only sent 1
Dec 12 10:15:45 <BabelO> hi
Dec 12 10:17:19 <zchydem> crweb, have you connected the signal twice?
Dec 12 10:17:34 <zchydem> just a guess
Dec 12 10:17:45 <crweb> shhh
Dec 12 10:17:49 <crweb> its my special night
Dec 12 10:18:13 <crweb> lol.... :(
Dec 12 14:20:00 <chouimat|work> morning
Dec 12 14:20:30 <jott> hello
Dec 12 21:13:47 <BabelO> hi all
Dec 12 21:13:54 <BabelO> today a question :)
Dec 12 21:13:55 <chouimat|work> hey BabelO 
Dec 12 21:13:59 <BabelO> what is that QPaintDevice::metrics: Device has no metric information
Dec 12 21:14:04 <chouimat|work> BabelO: did you get qss2 working?
Dec 12 21:14:13 <BabelO> QWS_DISPLAY is set correctly
Dec 12 21:14:49 <BabelO> chouimat|work: sorry i did not try on gp, mine freeze after latest update when i enter a menu application, don't know why
Dec 12 21:15:03 <BabelO> ljp ?
Dec 12 21:15:27 <BabelO> 7:14am, good :)
Dec 12 22:24:20 <jott> hm how long should i give sales@tt to reply? i wrote them on 5.12., asking for a replacement battery and got no answer yet...
Dec 12 22:25:19 <BabelO> evening jott :)
Dec 12 22:25:38 * BabelO happy, just tested  im application on universal
Dec 12 22:31:25 <scrav> jott: they answered me... 
Dec 12 22:31:52 <jott> scrav: what response time?! :) and a similar request?!
Dec 12 22:32:56 <scrav> jott: same request, but this was when the trolltechshop.com was open, and like 2 weeks ago to trolltech themself and answered the same day
Dec 12 22:33:50 <scrav> i want a new battery, ive redone the replace thing so many times that a .. plastic thingy needed some glue :S
Dec 12 22:35:54 <scrav> battery = 15 usd.. shipment 60 = usd or something, the question i want answered is like now when they stoped shipping greenphones can they sell the spare bats off the record. Like ordinary mail instead of fedex..
Dec 12 22:37:08 <jott> ah.. ok.. 15usd would be nice ;)
Dec 12 22:38:05 <scrav> yeah but they only ship fedex so its 75 usd or something
Dec 12 22:38:31 <jott> hm well i'm in europe so maybe it's a bit cheaper..
Dec 12 22:38:38 <scrav> same!
Dec 12 22:38:45 <scrav> but! they had ordered themself
Dec 12 22:38:53 <scrav> from their headoffice in US
Dec 12 22:38:55 <scrav> :(
Dec 12 22:40:02 <jott> i see..
Dec 12 22:40:21 <jott> maybe it would be wise to order 3-4 then ;)
Dec 12 22:40:31 <scrav> im in..
Dec 12 22:41:42 <jott> i wonder why they did not reply to my request :(..
Dec 12 22:41:44 <scrav> jott: where in europe are u?
Dec 12 22:41:50 <jott> germany
Dec 12 22:41:56 <scrav> <- swe
Dec 12 22:43:13 <jott> i wonder if they could ship some of those batteries to the berlin and norway offices ;)
Dec 12 22:44:25 <jott> the probably have some standard delivery contracts ,)
Dec 12 22:44:38 <scrav> jott: I just received an email from our US office, and they ship via DHL (like Fedex). So if this is ok with you, please just send me the information required in the first email and we will send the battery to you as soon as possible.
Dec 12 22:45:18 <scrav> thats the answer!.. i forgot...
Dec 12 22:45:39 <jott> hm i see..
Dec 12 22:47:53 <scrav> i dont know any about the shipment cost
Dec 12 22:47:57 <scrav> he didnt tell me
Dec 12 22:49:54 <jott> well i wonder if there is way to reduce those 60 usd.. that's quite a lot for s+h for just a letter-sized package :(
Dec 12 22:50:40 <jott> i don't need insurance etc ;)
Dec 12 22:51:11 <scrav> they just had fedex before
Dec 12 22:51:26 <scrav> guess they dont want to do alot of work with the sales
Dec 12 22:51:40 <scrav> when they just sell like 1000 phones? :S
Dec 12 22:53:17 <jott> yeah probably.. but snail mail would be fine too ;)
Dec 12 22:53:42 <jott> anyway i think DHL is not as expensive..
Dec 12 22:54:08 <scrav> same. but if i order i wont just order one
Dec 12 22:55:16 <jott> indeed..
Dec 12 22:58:02 <jott> i really wonder if they could send it to the berlin office for less.. maybe i write them with this inquiry :)
Dec 12 22:58:10 <ljp> head office is actually in norway. the us office is sales :)
Dec 12 22:58:41 <jott> ljp do you know if "inter-office shipping" would be cheaper?
Dec 12 22:59:07 <BabelO> good morning ljp :)
Dec 12 22:59:13 <ljp> marning
Dec 12 22:59:17 <ljp> morning that is
Dec 12 22:59:36 <ljp> not sure about shipping, but the warehouse is in us
Dec 12 22:59:40 <scrav> ljp: sorry :P
Dec 12 23:00:28 <jott> ljp: yeah sure.. but i could drive to the office here in berlin if they have some special contract with some delivery service .. :)
Dec 12 23:00:44 <jott> and good morning btw :)
Dec 12 23:00:51 <scrav> i can take the train to oslo.. 
Dec 12 23:01:09 <jott> heh see.. we will invade you just to save some bucks :)
Dec 12 23:13:42 <ljp> for some reason they decided to shipo from the us
Dec 12 23:15:22 <jott> yeah.. well i'll write them again, and ask if it would be cheaper if they send the package to the berlin office..
Dec 12 23:16:27 <scrav> jott: we could order together if u want to , ordinary mail to german cant cost to much right?
Dec 12 23:17:46 <jott> yeah we could check this out..
Dec 12 23:17:50 <jott> brb
Dec 13 02:25:48 <CHAOSiTEC> hi all
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