**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 14 02:59:56 2007 Dec 14 06:10:42 good morning Dec 14 10:17:20 alo BabelO Dec 14 10:20:19 hello goxboxliv1 Dec 14 10:21:01 :-) Dec 14 10:22:01 did you see the link about gentoo on pxa ? Dec 14 10:56:27 BabelO: yes i have seen it. I am subscribed to the hx-4700 ML **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 14 12:32:07 2007 Dec 14 17:09:38 ljp: do you know what the current state of suspend-on-greenphone is? is it fixed in current 4.3.1 snapshots already? Dec 14 19:09:39 Sput: dont think it is fixed yet, and with holidays it will be anoother week or two. Dec 14 19:10:11 ljp, well that'd be a timeframe one can live with :) Dec 14 19:10:28 I have seen the forum thread about it being in 4.3.2, but since 4.3.1 isn't even out... Dec 14 19:15:39 let me test a current snap Dec 14 19:18:58 flashing... Dec 14 19:20:37 ljp: do you have phone suspend/resume working now with the ficphone? Dec 14 19:21:17 somewhat. occasionally it decides it needs to power itself off instead of wakeup Dec 14 19:21:51 i believe thats hardware, but i havent dug too deep yet Dec 14 19:22:05 * Sput is prolly going to buy the GTA02 as soon as it's out Dec 14 19:22:36 Sput: do you have a sim in the greenphone? Dec 14 19:23:28 ljp: yes Dec 14 19:23:39 neo is mich nicer to develop with, but the lack of keys makes input difficult :) Dec 14 19:24:56 hm, I'd like to use the neo as everyday phone as soon as it's stable enough to do so Dec 14 19:25:09 i use mine :) Dec 14 19:25:30 just sometimes need to power up again if it doesn;t come back from suspend Dec 14 19:25:31 you have a GTA01 though, right? Dec 14 19:25:45 yes, and we will be getting the 01 as well Dec 14 19:26:06 *wait* Dec 14 19:26:28 though I find the lack of UMTS and the external stylus to be bad Dec 14 19:26:37 -to be Dec 14 19:27:11 yes, we tried to make the first two or three clicks from homescreen to be usable from finger. make calls using finger too Dec 14 19:27:24 but more finger input is roadmapped for 4.4 Dec 14 19:27:31 Quassel should run very nicely though on the Neo, it's a nice experience on the Greenphone already Dec 14 19:27:47 things like spin boxes suck for fingertouch Dec 14 19:27:57 ah, yes, that would be a huge help Dec 14 19:28:01 if you could make calls and send text messages with your finger in case you don't have the stylus with you... Dec 14 19:28:19 * Sput wonders why they didn't include a small integrated stylus :/ Dec 14 19:28:34 you mean instead of that stylish hole? Dec 14 19:28:57 instead of whatever :) Dec 14 19:28:58 nope. still not fixed in 4.3.1 Dec 14 19:28:59 * Sput like ths Greenphone way of using a retractable stylus Dec 14 19:29:08 hmm, too bad Dec 14 19:29:25 submitted p1 bug about it to remind aaron Dec 14 19:29:35 trust me, it will be fixed! Dec 14 19:29:37 well, I'm gonna flash the new version anyway... the SDK should finish building soon Dec 14 19:29:58 aaron seigo? Dec 14 19:30:02 nope Dec 14 19:30:04 yeah, I'm trusting you :) Dec 14 19:30:37 well, currently neo has better suspend handling :) Dec 14 19:30:57 at some point I'd like to get helix working again though on the greenphone to have a media player Dec 14 19:31:09 hmm, last time I checked the website said that qtopia cannot suspend on the neo at all :) Dec 14 19:33:23 well, I am in the mood to buy a neo GTA02 as soon as it's out regardless of any outstanding issues... the geek factor is simply to high to resist Dec 14 19:38:34 Sput: i figured out how to make suspend/resume work on the neo. only it powers down sometimes, but at least the modem works through the process Dec 14 19:39:04 yeah, that's a huge improvement compared to "does not work" :) Dec 14 19:39:09 maybe I will release a new snapshot for xmas Dec 14 19:39:19 yay, xmas presents! Dec 15 00:08:18 wow Dec 15 00:08:40 Qtopia 4.3.1 (today's snapshot) seems to be a lot faster than 4.3.0 Dec 15 00:09:14 Sput: what in particular is faster? Dec 15 00:09:21 feels faster in general Dec 15 00:09:28 ok Dec 15 00:09:39 have only tested my own app Dec 15 00:09:59 but that hasn't changed Dec 15 00:10:01 and it still feels much more responsive Dec 15 00:12:03 definitely ;) Dec 15 00:48:15 jott: here? :P **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 15 02:59:57 2007