**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 25 02:59:57 2008
Jan 25 08:55:25 <BabelO> hi
Jan 25 09:20:39 <FuzzyCat> hrm
Jan 25 09:21:57 <FuzzyCat> what device are you building for BabelO ?
Jan 25 10:19:41 <BabelO> FuzzyCat: i am using Greenphone and HTC Blueangel
Jan 25 10:43:07 <FuzzyCat> ahh ok
Jan 25 13:07:14 <FuzzyCat> meep
Jan 25 13:15:01 <FuzzyCat> ljp: have you built an image on top of a recent openmoko base rootfs ?
Jan 25 14:32:20 <chouimat|work> morning
Jan 25 18:04:50 <goxboxlive> ljp: there?
Jan 25 18:05:06 <goxboxlive> or here or something like it?
Jan 25 18:05:16 <ljp> somwwhat
Jan 25 18:05:32 <goxboxlive> wow you here. goo
Jan 25 18:05:33 <goxboxlive> d
Jan 25 18:06:01 <goxboxlive> Do you know why screenshots works on gta01 but not on HTC Universal?
Jan 25 18:06:03 <ljp> i have to warn you. i havet had coffee yet :)
Jan 25 18:06:04 <goxboxlive> Both has vga
Jan 25 18:06:09 <goxboxlive> :-)
Jan 25 18:06:15 <ljp> hmm
Jan 25 18:06:29 <ljp> what doesn't work about it?
Jan 25 18:07:26 <goxboxlive> It doesnt grab the screen. It just gived me a black window where the gta01 shows the screnshot if you know what i mean. Hold on pastebin the bug
Jan 25 18:09:11 <goxboxlive> ljp: root@htcuniversal:~$ /opt/Qtopia/bin/screenshot
Jan 25 18:09:11 <goxboxlive> QPixmap::grabWindow(): Unsupported screen depth 16
Jan 25 18:09:11 <goxboxlive> QImage::scaled: Image is a null image
Jan 25 18:09:49 <goxboxlive> I am using allmost the same device configure file for unibversal as for gta01
Jan 25 18:10:15 <ljp> hmm
Jan 25 18:11:00 <goxboxlive> ljp: is there something in this configure file that can cause this: http://pastebin.no/3189
Jan 25 18:13:22 <ljp> is the universal 32 bit screen?
Jan 25 18:14:22 <goxboxlive> No i dont think so, ithink it's only 16 bit, have to check
Jan 25 18:16:18 <goxboxlive> no it's 16bit screen
Jan 25 18:17:14 <goxboxlive> ljp: but screenshot worked with qtopia-4.2.x
Jan 25 18:17:24 <ljp> hmm
Jan 25 18:17:28 <ljp> odd
Jan 25 18:25:29 <ljp> they did change that part of the code.
Jan 25 18:26:32 <ljp> will submit a bug report
Jan 25 18:27:10 <goxboxlive> good
Jan 25 18:28:07 <ljp> or, maybe just fix the thing myself
Jan 25 18:28:59 <goxboxlive> why not 
Jan 25 18:29:54 <ljp> is the neo 32 bit?
Jan 25 18:31:13 <goxboxlive> i dont knwo actually, let me check
Jan 25 18:32:16 <ljp> seems to be 18?
Jan 25 18:33:04 <goxboxlive> ok, never heard of, thought it where only 16-24-32
Jan 25 18:34:19 <ljp> http://www.tpo.biz/ENG/business-eng/Activer-Matrix-VGA.htm
Jan 25 18:35:01 <ljp> that says its 18 it, but I dont configure for 18 bit for the neo
Jan 25 18:35:09 <ljp> 18 bit
Jan 25 18:35:26 <goxboxlive> ljp: 262K colors, isent that 32?
Jan 25 18:35:40 <goxboxlive> i thought 65K colors is 16
Jan 25 18:41:16 <ljp> google seems to pick up that 262k = 18 bits :)
Jan 25 18:41:23 <ljp> i am bad a math :)
Jan 25 18:41:29 <ljp> so i dont know
Jan 25 18:44:38 <ljp> oh 2 ^ 18 = 262.
Jan 25 18:48:08 <ljp> hmm.. odd
Jan 25 18:48:57 <chouimat|work> ok they divided by 1000 
Jan 25 18:52:47 <ljp> ya thats 262,144
Jan 25 19:02:18 <goxboxlive> ljp: so basicly yo just have to add 16bit support to screenshot.
Jan 25 19:03:53 <ljp> its QPixmap::grabWindow :)
Jan 25 19:05:27 <ljp> is htc little endian?
Jan 25 19:14:48 <ljp> I can give you a 'patch' for that function (to make regress it to 4.2) if you want to apply it and recompile
Jan 25 19:15:40 <ljp> or you can just grab the 4.2 sources and paste the grabWindow function from src/gui/image/qpixmap_qws.cpp
Jan 25 19:16:18 <ljp> not sure if this would compile still for 4.3
Jan 25 19:29:55 <licksjp> ljp, hello
Jan 25 19:33:10 <ljp> hi
Jan 25 19:43:23 <ljp> goxboxlive: does this use a screen plugin?
Jan 25 19:44:02 <ljp> transformed?
Jan 25 19:44:13 <goxboxlive> ljp: i am using transformed
Jan 25 19:44:26 <goxboxlive> i dont know if htc is little endian
Jan 25 19:46:07 <ljp> if you download the qtopia core sources, there is a test app in examples/qtopiacore/framebuffer that will print out information needed
Jan 25 19:46:24 <ljp> qtopia phone does not ship qt examples ;(
Jan 25 19:53:57 <ljp> goxboxlive: the embedded guy seems to already have a patch that might work
Jan 25 19:54:14 <goxboxlive> good
Jan 25 19:54:47 <goxboxlive> could you pastebin it I am just building a new image now to check out latest changes
Jan 25 19:54:55 <goxboxlive> i can add it and test it
Jan 25 19:56:10 <ljp> ok
Jan 25 19:58:04 <goxboxlive> ljp: i saw you have added 3gpp to the source. When i am in a zone where i have 3G net it chnages from G -> 3 :-) cool
Jan 25 20:00:13 <ljp> http://pastebin.us/?show=d730df66c
Jan 25 20:02:11 <goxboxlive> thx
Jan 25 20:04:17 <ljp> goxboxlive: 3gpp is a video code :)
Jan 25 20:04:23 <ljp> most used on phones
Jan 25 20:04:46 <ljp> we have yet to add 3G as wel have no hardware in which to do it
Jan 25 20:06:03 <goxboxlive> ljp: It recongnize when i move over to a 3G zone. HTC Universal is a 3G (UMTS) phone
Jan 25 20:06:33 <ljp> hmm. ok
Jan 25 20:07:37 <goxboxlive> ljp: when i have screenshot working i show you :-)
Jan 25 20:07:48 <ljp> ok
Jan 25 20:10:40 <goxboxlive> ljp: oh now, i have to revbuild everything. I didnt had the same path as you had. Mine qscreentransformed_qws.cpp file where located in jrs@linuxserver:/media/embedded/stuff/sources/git/qtopia_snapshot$ find . -name qscreentransformed_qws.cpp
Jan 25 20:10:40 <goxboxlive> ./qtopiacore/qt/src/gui/embedded/qscreentransformed_qws.cpp
Jan 25 20:11:06 <goxboxlive> qtopiacore/qt and not src/ as yours
Jan 25 20:11:09 <ljp> ya qtopia phone moves it to qtopiacore/qt :)
Jan 25 20:38:45 <ljp> need to add scap to screenshot
Jan 25 20:39:46 <goxboxlive> ljp: yes really.
Jan 25 20:51:46 <ljp> is screenshot in the qtopia git?
Jan 25 20:53:16 <goxboxlive> ljp: no not yet, i am only using it localy. If the patch works we will add it to branch htcuniversal
Jan 25 20:55:08 <goxboxlive> ljp: will the roation stuff be a gui hadling also? Becuase how will inotice that you have added it to the ource?
Jan 25 21:00:45 <goxboxlive> ljp: i have screenshot working now
Jan 25 21:00:57 <ljp> there are two parts. the dynamic rotation bit should already be in qtopia core. the other is an app to easily rotate, which I am waiting for the guy who ported it from qtopia 2
Jan 25 21:00:58 <goxboxlive> ANd thatwithout your latest patch?
Jan 25 21:02:17 <goxboxlive> ljp: ok, the dynamic isent working well. 
Jan 25 21:02:40 <goxboxlive> The TS input doesnt understand that the lcd has rotated :-9
Jan 25 21:03:37 <goxboxlive> ok, i need to get outside to get a screnie of the "3" symbol :-)
Jan 25 21:16:00 <ljp> :) ok
Jan 25 21:26:30 <goxboxlive> ljp: enjoy :-) http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/htcuniversal/screenies/new/
Jan 25 21:29:38 <ScaredyCat> wht device is that goxboxlive
Jan 25 21:30:28 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: HTC Universal
Jan 25 21:31:17 <ScaredyCat> and it works well with qtopia
Jan 25 21:31:18 <ScaredyCat> ?
Jan 25 21:33:32 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: of course
Jan 25 21:33:42 <ScaredyCat> bit big though
Jan 25 21:33:51 <goxboxlive> reverse engineering is the answer
Jan 25 21:34:01 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: but it has a keybaord
Jan 25 21:34:15 <goxboxlive> it works a lot better than te GTA01
Jan 25 21:34:27 <ScaredyCat> ya
Jan 25 21:34:39 <ScaredyCat> well... tbh - that wouldn;t be too hard :)
Jan 25 21:35:26 <goxboxlive> :-)
Jan 25 21:36:22 <ScaredyCat> finally managed to get qtopia bulding again...
Jan 25 21:36:27 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: i am using my htcuniversal now with Qtopia on it as my main phone. It works great, i still miss mms and gprs acces though (have to set it up manually with uucp) 
Jan 25 21:36:39 <ScaredyCat> but I reckon ljp is trying to force us to use his directory layout
Jan 25 21:36:44 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: oh have you had problems with it?
Jan 25 21:36:53 <ScaredyCat> yeah... for a while
Jan 25 21:37:01 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: are you aware of the git tree of Qtopia now?
Jan 25 21:37:13 <goxboxlive> You can add your own branch 
Jan 25 21:37:20 <ScaredyCat> in the end I just created the /data3/builds/ and symlinked it..
Jan 25 21:37:28 <ScaredyCat> no I wasn't aware of that...
Jan 25 21:38:04 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: check out topic
Jan 25 21:39:13 <ScaredyCat> sweet
Jan 25 21:39:51 <ScaredyCat> I need to get another bit of hardware, I need a phone that I can rely on.. 
Jan 25 21:40:01 <ScaredyCat> so I can still dev on the gta01...
Jan 25 21:40:11 <ScaredyCat> I gave my wife the p910i ...
Jan 25 21:41:51 <ScaredyCat> gprs not working properly with qtpoia? 
Jan 25 21:42:12 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: buy a htcuniversal from ebay, it has everything, even vga screen. But it lacks gps
Jan 25 21:42:19 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: it's on it's way
Jan 25 21:42:45 <ScaredyCat> well if it have bluetooth then that's all you need for gps :)
Jan 25 21:43:38 <goxboxlive> yes it has BT
Jan 25 21:44:20 <ScaredyCat> there seem to be a lot of varaint
Jan 25 21:44:24 <ScaredyCat> variants
Jan 25 21:45:04 <ScaredyCat> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Universal-Qtek-9000-T-Mobile-MDA-Pro-PU16A-1620mAh_W0QQitemZ130192562386QQihZ003QQcategoryZ75446QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Jan 25 21:45:05 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: yes there is, the htc universal is the code name from htc, it is sold as Imate JasJar, Qtek 9000 and MDA PRo
Jan 25 21:45:06 <ScaredyCat> ?
Jan 25 21:45:19 <ScaredyCat> ahh ok, so they are all the same thing
Jan 25 21:45:21 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat:  Where do you live
Jan 25 21:45:30 <goxboxlive> yes but diffrents bracnhes
Jan 25 21:45:31 <ScaredyCat> errm, .nl and uk
Jan 25 21:45:46 <ScaredyCat> selling house in .nl to move to uk...
Jan 25 21:45:47 <goxboxlive> ok, i thin ktmobile sold it as mda pro
Jan 25 21:45:56 <ScaredyCat> 2 weeks here 2 weks in ul
Jan 25 21:45:58 <ScaredyCat> uk
Jan 25 21:46:02 <goxboxlive> ok
Jan 25 21:48:05 <ScaredyCat> I can only find battery's on ebay :(
Jan 25 21:49:19 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: hold on let me take a look
Jan 25 21:50:23 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Used-Unlocked-MDA-PRO-PDA-Cell-Phone-iMate-JasJar-GSM_W0QQitemZ140201400654QQihZ004QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
Jan 25 21:50:53 <ScaredyCat> ooo
Jan 25 21:50:54 <ScaredyCat> ta
Jan 25 21:51:06 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VODAFONE-V1640-O2-EXEC-IMATE-JASJAR-HTC-MDA-PRO_W0QQitemZ300193660356QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3312QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Jan 25 21:52:41 <goxboxlive> ScaredyCat: this are some of the names: ORANGE SPV M5000 - O2 XDA EXEC - SPV M5000 - IMATE JASJAR
Jan 25 21:52:51 <goxboxlive> and QTEK 9000
Jan 25 21:53:04 <ScaredyCat> ahh ok.. I was being to specific :)
Jan 25 21:53:08 <goxboxlive> :-)
Jan 25 21:53:31 <goxboxlive> But remember it's an old device, it's about two and a half years old now
Jan 25 21:53:57 <ScaredyCat> :)
Jan 25 21:54:01 <ScaredyCat> brb coffee
Jan 25 22:16:50 <ljp> sweet
Jan 25 22:17:56 <ljp> there are aftifacts around the battery and signal status. ;(
Jan 25 22:18:02 <ljp> some theming thing
Jan 25 22:21:38 <goxboxlive> ljp: Artifacts is just on the screenie, not on the device
Jan 25 22:25:33 <ljp> neo is 18 bit as I configured and compiled and ran qtopia with 18 bit depth only
Jan 25 22:26:08 <ljp> seems to be quicker as well :)
Jan 25 22:27:51 <goxboxlive> ljp: ok, so actually, so for HTC Unicersal i should only use 16 bit and not the whole specter as i do now
Jan 25 22:28:29 <ljp> might try it.
Jan 25 22:28:42 <ljp> could be my imagination that it seems fater though
Jan 25 22:28:44 <ljp> faster
Jan 25 22:30:09 <goxboxlive> ljp: even though it's allready fast on Universal. Isent there anyone in your office with a HTC Universal? They should relly test it with Qtopia
Jan 25 22:33:10 <ljp> not yet. whats the processor?
Jan 25 22:33:27 <ljp> we are waiting ofr neo2's
Jan 25 22:33:29 <ljp> for
Jan 25 22:36:48 <goxboxlive> ljp: 520MHz armv5te Xscale
Jan 25 22:36:56 <goxboxlive> It got everything beside gps
Jan 25 22:41:35 <goxboxlive> ljp: could you rebuild your sources for gta01 with transformed enabled and test it, so you can see what i mean.And also add Rot270 to your QWS_DISPLAY
Jan 25 22:42:18 <goxboxlive> I think i know what some of the problem is now.. The Qtopia calibration doesnt support landscape mode
Jan 25 22:43:22 <ljp> hmm
Jan 25 22:43:32 <ljp> ok thats my app :)
Jan 25 22:43:59 <goxboxlive> The calibration screen looks good, but the input crosses is still in portrait mode
Jan 25 22:45:13 <ljp> hmm screenie?
Jan 25 22:45:25 <ymerejt> hi everyone 
Jan 25 22:46:17 <goxboxlive> ljp: you cant take a screenieof the calibration
Jan 25 22:46:43 <goxboxlive> and with VNC it breaks Qtopia
Jan 25 23:12:35 <goxboxlive> ljp: how long do you take to build a new image ?
Jan 26 00:55:24 <ljp> with teambuilder at TT only 10-15 minutes
Jan 26 00:59:39 <goxboxlive> ok
Jan 26 00:59:52 <goxboxlive> have you tested the transformed yet?
Jan 26 01:01:17 <goxboxlive> ohh of course, you arent at work, it's saturday morning for you now.
Jan 26 01:01:28 <goxboxlive> Well here is _to_ late. Good night
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