**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 06 03:00:02 2008 Aug 06 05:12:41 need more qtk servers anyone? Aug 06 05:13:09 I need more qtk servers. Anyone? Aug 06 07:06:54 qtk? Aug 06 08:12:52 Hi all. Finally got my act together, and made a norwegian dictionary for my freerunner. I had to replace the en_US content to make it work though. Is there a way to make both english and norwegian usable trough an easy setting? Also, how do I get æ ø and å to show in the predictive keyboard Aug 06 08:57:16 hi Aug 06 09:21:43 Ko_deZ: They're on the second flick :) Aug 06 09:21:53 (as in, flick the keyboard a couple of times) Aug 06 09:22:12 But yeah, it'd be a Good Thing(TM) if the keyboard layout followed the language... Aug 06 09:24:10 it will in 4.4 Aug 06 09:24:19 somewhat anyway Aug 06 09:24:20 Brilliant :) Aug 06 09:52:23 leinir: That sounds good =) With flick, you mean the scroll up/down action on the keyboard? I have "QWERTY, qwerty, numbers, symbols", flicking trough those numerous times does not change the english layout at all. Aug 06 15:05:13 how do I get to the current neo flash image? it just says "this cannot be externally linked to" for me Aug 06 15:12:22 weatherhead: http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=6 Aug 06 18:29:40 lpotter: Can I ask you something? Aug 06 18:29:53 of course Aug 06 18:30:29 Well the Dutch Linux Magazine asked my to write a review / overview about the Freerunner Aug 06 18:30:59 Now I know there are some screenshot's available of freerunner on the WWW Aug 06 18:31:02 But not actual ones Aug 06 18:31:07 do you have some actual ones? Aug 06 18:31:27 Because I kinda wan't to promote Qtopia in it also Aug 06 18:32:44 It's for this magazine: http://www.linuxmag.nl/ Aug 06 18:40:46 yes, I can provide you some. Aug 06 18:41:12 That would be great! :) Aug 06 18:41:35 we now have two browsers: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/news/10/ Aug 06 18:42:13 lpotter: How about Arora? ;) Aug 06 18:42:27 FF3? Sweet! Aug 06 19:04:25 finally! a sane file dialog in firefox! Aug 06 19:07:10 lpotter: quick question for a fairly stupid idea for qtopia 4.4 - slideshow background picture for the home screen? :) Aug 06 19:07:40 like pictureflow? Aug 06 19:08:02 that might be 4.5 :D Aug 06 19:08:20 oh _slide_show Aug 06 19:08:27 hmmm Aug 06 19:09:10 As in an automatically changing background picture :) Aug 06 19:10:01 * chouimat|work likes the terminal app :) Aug 06 19:10:32 chouimat|work: 'tis indeed a good thing :) Aug 06 19:11:32 you guys are geeks! Aug 06 19:11:39 there, correct window Aug 06 19:12:16 Absolutely! :) Aug 06 19:12:26 * leinir curtsies "Guilty as charged" ;) Aug 06 19:13:05 lpotter: there no greater joy in the world than ssh'ing into your cell phone ... ok maybe making love to a beautiful woman but I don't have any in my life :) Aug 06 19:13:29 ever tried doing those at the same time?! Aug 06 19:13:45 lpotter: yes and why to do you think I'm alone? Aug 06 19:13:58 ha Aug 06 19:14:11 i thought it was that you are canadian Aug 06 19:14:24 :) Aug 06 19:14:25 ha ha ha ;) Aug 06 19:14:52 you are lucky. without a gfriend/wife/family, you have time to actually do things Aug 06 19:15:53 lpotter: and money to buy new toys like: n800,freerunner,eeepc,ps3,psp,mac pro, avr32 boards, kurobox pro ... Aug 06 19:42:06 lol Aug 06 19:42:32 lpotter: are you going to upload those pictures or send them by e-mail? Aug 06 19:45:52 Hmm maybe for later on the project: http://we-travel.co.cc/ a free navigation tool Aug 06 19:56:06 RXShorty: either/or. when do you need them by? Aug 06 19:56:23 how many do you want? Aug 06 19:59:06 Just need a few. the main menu etc... please by e-mail. Well going to write tomorrow. Is it possible before next week? So in the weekend or so? That would be great Aug 06 20:00:00 of course Aug 06 20:00:07 Many thanks Aug 06 20:23:29 Hi To All QT People! Aug 06 20:24:09 'lo! :) Aug 06 20:24:24 is there any VCS (svn/git/...) which keeps content of snapshots released on ftp://ftp. trolltech.com/qtopia/source/ Aug 06 20:24:50 it is somewhat pathetic to download 100M if changes from previous one are minimal... and hard to see what was actually changed Aug 06 20:25:43 google gives me link to someone's git repo http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/4.3.2-snapshot Aug 06 20:26:03 where he simply unrolls those tarballs and commits to git, but I thought that may be there was some official repository? Aug 06 20:33:12 lpotter: Hey, randomly, will you be at Akademy? :) Aug 06 20:41:21 not this year Aug 06 20:41:47 yoh: no official git repo currently Aug 06 20:42:15 lpotter, sad -- but thank you ;-) Aug 06 20:42:29 lpotter, and I guess I know you from the openmoko mailing lists right? :-) Aug 06 20:44:18 yep. thats me Aug 06 20:46:22 could I bother you with quick questions then right here? ;-) Aug 06 20:47:23 lpotter, and btw thanks once again for the qtopia on openmoko ;-) Aug 06 20:49:24 lpotter: Ah, ok then :) Aug 06 20:51:00 yoh: thats what I am here for Aug 06 20:51:53 so did you experience those sluggish/delayed responses when you press 'Answer' when receiving a phone call? Aug 06 20:53:19 yoh: I have the same problem. It takes about 2 seconds until it responds and answers the phone Aug 06 20:53:51 RXShorty, I changed ring to some longer melody and it seems delayed increased to 3-4 sec... didn't measure with a timer though ;-) Aug 06 20:54:33 Never tried that though. I have to standard Ring tone. Aug 06 20:55:12 with standard I did have those 2 seconds I think ;-) Aug 06 20:55:59 It is just like he have to load the ringtone before it responds. Most logic thinking ;) But I am not sure Aug 06 20:56:16 I just wonder what is the reason... I think I looked that system is not 100% busy while playing that ringtone, but who knows -- may be qpe's nice level should be decreased to be more responsitive? Aug 06 20:56:56 Sorry can't answer that. I am just a humble user. Aug 06 20:57:28 yeah -- lets wait for the master's answer ;-) Aug 06 20:57:43 heh yeah let's do that. Aug 06 21:02:32 doh -- we forgotten to ring the bell... Aug 06 21:02:36 lpotter: I guess you are aware of the response time on a incomming call Aug 06 21:02:41 :) Aug 06 21:02:48 RXShorty, right ;-) Aug 06 21:06:20 yes. Aug 06 21:06:46 ok, good to know heh ;) Aug 06 21:10:50 lpotter, anything reasonable could be done to improve or it requires in-depth change (changing IPC etc)? Aug 06 21:11:11 or in other words -- is fix coming soon? ;-) Aug 06 21:18:59 BTW -- is it worth filing bug reports (like this about responsiveness) within http://www.trolltech.com.au/developer/task-tracker/ or may be any other qtopia-specific BTS? or it is better to ask on the mailing list/IRC? Aug 06 21:20:44 I think the bug reports is better Aug 06 21:20:55 because there are more people on Qtopia generally Aug 06 21:21:04 working on it I mean Aug 06 21:22:34 RXShorty, yeah... I just dislike browser-interface bug filing... reportbug in debian is closer to my fingers Aug 06 21:23:38 True, but for the more unexperienced users the browser based is better for the overal public I guess Aug 06 21:24:58 "on-device" bug reporting tool would be much better so I wouldn't need to fill out smth like "Please provide some details about the platform, like the version, patchlevel, used hardware etc." since it could get it automatically Aug 06 21:25:31 yoh: yes, please report. :) Aug 06 21:25:50 that would be the best... BUT then again WIFI isn't working perfectly, neither is GPRS is. So you have to be connected to USB internet at the moment :P Aug 06 21:26:06 what should I say on " Compiler details Aug 06 21:26:06 Please provide some details about the compiler, like the version and patchlevel etc. " Aug 06 21:26:08 ;-) Aug 06 21:26:16 just kidding... will leave empty Aug 06 21:26:24 heh :) Aug 06 21:26:34 RXShorty, and that is not a problem imho... and wifi works fine Aug 06 21:27:06 yoh, Wifi isn't working at my device. DHCP is getting screwed... but it is a known bug at the moment. Aug 06 21:27:48 hm... never had an issue with or without WEP and manual ifup ifdown YMMV Aug 06 21:28:09 Yeah ok, but I am using to GUI to set the Wifi... Aug 06 21:32:05 People I am off Aug 06 21:32:23 Speak you all later! Good night, Aug 06 21:33:11 uff -- sent bug report... lets see if that helps :-P Aug 06 21:33:37 lpotter, when are you planing on next release of the qtopia image? Aug 06 22:18:03 when I have the time too Aug 06 22:30:41 ljp, no problem -- though build was failing in sid chroot, it went ok in a regular environment (sid + backports) so I will try deploying it this week from the build Aug 06 22:47:56 ljp: how portable would you say is the qtopia bluetooth and obex stack? (as in using it just with qt) Aug 06 22:50:11 not real sure **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 06 22:57:16 2008 Aug 06 23:12:23 hello all. I'm running the qtopia stack on the neo freerunner and trying to find where the contacts file/db is stored. Contacts have been imported from sim card but I want to copy to another machine and import. Any links to docs ? Aug 06 23:20:32 hipitihop_: contacts are stored in qtopia_db.sqlite Aug 06 23:27:53 rohanpm, cool so I assume by its name that an sqlite insatnce on my ubuntu desktop could load it Aug 06 23:28:12 insatnce = instance Aug 06 23:28:13 sqlite version 3, yes Aug 06 23:28:23 There might be a less painful way though Aug 06 23:29:24 is there some plain file dump of contacts on qtopia I can run from a shell Aug 06 23:29:53 I just want to import into contacts on my desktop... don't have qtopia desktop for ubuntu Aug 06 23:30:06 QD wont work for qtopia 4 Aug 06 23:30:37 sonmeone creaetd a script to send vcard to qtopia for impport Aug 06 23:30:45 bah. need new fingers Aug 06 23:30:57 ljp, will Qd work on 4 eventually or something else is planned ? Aug 06 23:31:12 there is qdsync how. Aug 06 23:31:30 someone would have to write import/export plugins for linux, though Aug 06 23:31:59 does 4 also use the sqlite db ? Aug 06 23:32:29 of course Aug 06 23:33:57 sorry if these are basic questions, new to qtopia, very impressed. Any idea when a 4.4 based flash image is due for the freerunner Aug 06 23:35:09 a few more weeks Aug 06 23:35:23 unless snapshots startup before the release. Aug 06 23:38:10 is there a link to docs to the location of qtopia_db.sqlite and similar docs so I don't waste your time here Aug 06 23:39:13 maybe at doc.trolltech.com Aug 06 23:40:52 too easy, many thanks everyone Aug 07 02:05:43 can I ask a question here about Qtopia functionality on a Neo Aug 07 02:07:31 can anyone tell me how I add a google calendar account to Neo, I can't locate the add account Aug 07 02:34:21 how do I add a calendar account in Qtopia on a Freerunner ? Aug 07 02:44:03 datebook does not have google calender support Aug 07 02:44:11 :( **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 07 02:59:57 2008