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Oct 11 07:47:50 <malik1972> tsdogs: ping
Oct 11 07:48:02 <tsdogs> malik1972: pong :)
Oct 11 07:48:08 <malik1972> hi
Oct 11 07:48:41 <malik1972> do you remember http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4
Oct 11 07:48:57 <tsdogs> yes
Oct 11 07:49:17 <malik1972> as he uses the /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/ folder
Oct 11 07:49:31 <malik1972> its not for qtextended 4.4
Oct 11 07:49:44 <tsdogs> well I thought so :)
Oct 11 07:50:05 <malik1972> he compiled it for x11?!
Oct 11 07:50:32 <tsdogs> then it's for openmoko (?)
Oct 11 07:50:50 <malik1972> yes
Oct 11 07:51:01 <malik1972> i will try it
Oct 11 07:51:18 <malik1972> or find someone who tries it under 2008.x or whatever
Oct 11 07:52:07 <tsdogs> malik1972: basically it should work the same. only the gui changes a little but the rest is the same code.
Oct 11 07:52:34 <malik1972> i think that tangogps is the first choice there
Oct 11 07:53:00 <tsdogs> and btw now in cvs there is font size handling I think, hmm need to check if I sent also that part of the code, but I'm pretty sure it is
Oct 11 07:53:08 <tsdogs> or even navit
Oct 11 07:53:14 <malik1972> no
Oct 11 07:53:18 <malik1972> i tried navit
Oct 11 07:53:29 <malik1972> it was unstable for me and for others
Oct 11 07:53:40 <tsdogs> ho, ok.
Oct 11 07:54:10 <malik1972> but navit has some advantages
Oct 11 07:54:22 <malik1972> you can use some commercial maps
Oct 11 07:54:33 <malik1972> for instance marco polo ...
Oct 11 07:55:21 <malik1972> what about 4.4, you compiled it, are you happy with it?
Oct 11 07:55:28 <tsdogs> yeah it's in :)
Oct 11 07:56:16 <malik1972> what about the unexpected features/bugs
Oct 11 07:56:19 <tsdogs> hmm, I builded it and installed it on my Htc Uni, but device code needs revision (mainly modem part)
Oct 11 07:56:36 <tsdogs> though hinge and rotation work good
Oct 11 07:56:58 <tsdogs> haven't done such an extesive test.
Oct 11 07:57:39 <malik1972> i hope lpotter releases bug fixed releases
Oct 11 07:57:47 <tsdogs> stability will come with 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 as it was with previous releases
Oct 11 07:57:54 <malik1972> no
Oct 11 07:58:11 <malik1972> the version we use is 4.4.2
Oct 11 07:58:12 <tsdogs> just a guess :)
Oct 11 07:58:27 <malik1972> at least for the freerunner
Oct 11 07:58:35 <malik1972> about says 4.4.2
Oct 11 07:58:38 <tsdogs> hmm, I have 4.4.1 actually :)
Oct 11 07:58:45 <malik1972> okay
Oct 11 07:59:08 <tsdogs> hmm, maybe I need to build the snapshots. but I'm busy with something else now.
Oct 11 08:02:25 <tsdogs> well I cannot find snapshots, will look later.
Oct 11 08:02:58 <malik1972> there are daily snapshots available?
Oct 11 08:29:36 <lpotter> nsapshot will appear this week at qtextended.org
Oct 11 08:31:11 <malik1972> lpotter: okay, thats fine
Oct 11 08:31:38 <malik1972> how do you define snapshots?
Oct 11 08:31:52 <lpotter> daily snapshot that builds
Oct 11 08:32:01 <lpotter> in some aspect
Oct 11 08:32:03 <malik1972> including bug fixes
Oct 11 08:32:16 <lpotter> apparently the release was supposed to build too
Oct 11 08:32:23 <malik1972> and there is a README
Oct 11 08:32:31 <malik1972> where i can see what changed
Oct 11 08:32:38 <malik1972> from one version to the other?
Oct 11 08:32:39 <lpotter> probably not
Oct 11 08:32:47 <malik1972> hmm
Oct 11 08:33:00 <malik1972> okay, let me ask another one
Oct 11 08:33:19 <lpotter> ok
Oct 11 08:33:21 <malik1972> next release for the freerunner
Oct 11 08:33:35 <malik1972> with some essential bug fixes
Oct 11 08:34:02 <malik1972> do you have plans on that
Oct 11 08:34:23 <malik1972> i know qtextended is not focused on the freerunner
Oct 11 08:35:29 <malik1972> for me there are several choices: 1. not to use my neo, instead old nokia 2. go back to 4.3.2 3. wait for bug fixed release
Oct 11 08:35:52 <malik1972> okay 1 equals 3
Oct 11 08:44:36 <malik1972> lpotter: are there differences between the official released images and those build from the snapshots?
Oct 11 08:50:49 <lpotter> well, i do add a few things like the embeddedkonsole
Oct 11 08:51:45 <malik1972> yeah, thats essential
Oct 11 08:58:39 <malik1972> there are some hidden atm codes to avoid the echo issue
Oct 11 08:59:10 <malik1972> are they implemented into qtextended 
Oct 11 10:53:07 <nyu> wurp2|gone: yes
Oct 11 10:53:19 <nyu> wurp2|gone: I'm also using a recent linux build, from mwester
Oct 11 12:57:19 <wurp2|gone> nyu: A reboot fixed it for me.  I have no idea why - I had already rebooted a few times when it failed for me before.
Oct 11 14:56:30 <nyu> wurp2|gone: magic!
Oct 11 14:57:22 <nyu> apol: hi fellow UPCer
Oct 11 15:02:59 <apol> nyu: ??? XD
Oct 11 15:03:01 <apol> hi
Oct 11 15:04:39 <nyu> apol: jo tb estic a la FIB ;-)
Oct 11 15:04:51 <nyu> apol: tens un FR?
Oct 11 16:11:10 <shea83> hi
Oct 11 16:12:58 <shea83> someone know when qy extended will exit?
Oct 11 16:13:20 <shea83> *qt extended 4.4.2
Oct 11 16:17:47 <fale__> witch is the parameter for dfu-util to declare witch one of the connected object have to be used?
Oct 11 16:32:24 <fale__> lpotter: is there a repository for gsm things?
Oct 11 17:50:06 <wurp2|gone> shea83: probably a while, since 4.4.1 just came out
Oct 11 19:57:11 <Tm_T> wurp2|gone: though my Qtextended says it's 4.4.2 but meh
Oct 11 19:58:17 <lpotter> thats becaue the 4.4.1 release doesn;t compile very well for the neo
Oct 11 19:58:26 <Tm_T> ye
Oct 11 19:58:59 <Tm_T> lpotter: FYI: gprs works, sorta
Oct 11 19:59:12 <Tm_T> 2253.47 < Tm_T> FYI: I got finally working gprs with my Qtextended, though, IF it's not used it cuts very soon
Oct 11 19:59:45 <Tm_T> somehow if I keep making traffic with gprs, my calypso doesn't do those funny resets
Oct 11 20:00:05 <Tm_T> wlan is sucky, dunno why
Oct 11 20:02:38 <lpotter> you mean dereg/reg ?
Oct 11 20:02:44 <Tm_T> ye
Oct 11 20:13:30 <lpotter> Tm_T: what did you have to do to get gprs working?
Oct 11 21:08:40 <Tm_T> lpotter: no idea, made settings several times
Oct 11 21:09:10 <Tm_T> lpotter: and now 'on demand' mode freezes qtextended <3
Oct 11 21:24:01 <lpotter> hmm
Oct 11 21:34:52 <Tm_T> lpotter: similarly as bluetooth does
Oct 11 21:34:59 <Tm_T> lpotter: so maybe these are related
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