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Dec 13 11:07:07 <ernst> hi
Dec 13 11:07:20 <ernst> can i use mp3 with qtextended mwester ?
Dec 13 11:07:28 <ernst> can i install a lib ?
Dec 13 11:22:25 <marius_> when compiling a program written in c++ for the qtextended on a FR, do i need the cross toolchain 
Dec 13 11:22:26 <marius_> ?
Dec 13 11:58:05 <fale> marius_: I think you should compile it in SDK
Dec 13 12:36:31 <marius_> fale: i am compiling it, but getting not supported package on the FR when i run sdk -i
Dec 13 12:36:54 <marius_> *i am compiling it in the SDK
Dec 13 12:41:41 <marius_> using the: qtopia-ficgta01-sdk-4.3.2
Dec 13 12:42:40 <marius_> incompatible package... it is the example file i am compiling and trying to install
Dec 13 12:49:58 <tsdogs> marius_: there was a tutorial somewhere on how to use the sdk
Dec 13 12:50:23 <tsdogs> the sdk has the cross toolchain, but you need to source the right configuration.
Dec 13 12:50:31 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 12:50:41 <marius_> it is configured for GTA01?
Dec 13 12:52:06 <marius_> i got the program to run in the viritual phone...
Dec 13 12:56:12 <tsdogs> marius_: depends on the sdk
Dec 13 12:56:18 <marius_> there is no traces of any gta02 in this sdk... except the quickstart mentions the gta02, and greenphone...
Dec 13 12:56:36 <marius_> i checked the /opt/Qtopia/SDK/scripts$ folder
Dec 13 12:56:51 <marius_> and there is just for x86 and ficgta01
Dec 13 12:56:53 <tsdogs> well, basically the processor type is the same so you can safely use the gta01
Dec 13 12:56:58 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 13:00:43 <marius_> is there a problem that the sdk is 4.3.2 and my FR runs 4.4.2
Dec 13 13:00:44 <marius_> ?
Dec 13 13:01:37 <tsdogs> marius_: yes :)
Dec 13 13:01:48 <tsdogs> you need the 4.4.2 sdk
Dec 13 13:02:16 <marius_> wich i need to build myself?
Dec 13 13:03:33 <tsdogs> I have no idea if lpotter / ljp has built one for 4.4.2 but afair there should be one.
Dec 13 13:03:57 <marius_> no one on the web page
Dec 13 13:04:09 <marius_> i'l just try to do it without the sdk
Dec 13 13:04:55 <marius_> manualy install the toolchain on my computer aswell as the qtextended 4.4.2
Dec 13 13:05:37 <tsdogs> yep :)
Dec 13 13:06:44 <tsdogs> you'll need to configure it for your device (ho, and be sure you have to do something in the mean while it will take long to build it :)
Dec 13 13:08:56 <marius_> does not sound good.... started programming for greenphone... so i might be a bit spoiled when i thougt i would be that easy ont the FR aswell
Dec 13 13:13:09 <tsdogs> marius_: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4 
Dec 13 13:13:22 <tsdogs> the first one should get you started i think
Dec 13 13:13:49 <tsdogs> hmm, nope too complicated
Dec 13 13:15:10 <marius_> the developer filesystem?
Dec 13 13:15:16 <tsdogs> marius_: porting the app should be trivial, but you need the building environment
Dec 13 13:15:26 <tsdogs> ignore the developer filesystem
Dec 13 13:15:32 <marius_> okay...
Dec 13 13:15:38 <tsdogs> download the toolchain 
Dec 13 13:15:44 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 13:15:49 <tsdogs> from main download page
Dec 13 13:16:01 <tsdogs> then unpack it to /opt/toolchains
Dec 13 13:16:10 <marius_> jup
Dec 13 13:16:22 <tsdogs> and use that as a compiler
Dec 13 13:16:35 <tsdogs> marius_: you need more specs on how to build ?
Dec 13 13:17:11 <marius_> so i build from my local laptop
Dec 13 13:17:22 <marius_> transfer the file to the SDK
Dec 13 13:17:27 <marius_> and then to the FR?
Dec 13 13:17:47 <marius_> with the "sdk -i"
Dec 13 13:17:50 <tsdogs> well you can transfer directly to the FR non need for the SDK afaik
Dec 13 13:17:52 <marius_> or am i totaly lost here
Dec 13 13:17:56 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 13:18:21 <marius_> when compiling with the toolchain... will it be a gpk or ipk package then?
Dec 13 13:19:40 <tsdogs> you can build one yes.
Dec 13 13:19:58 <tsdogs> but you first need 4.4.2 for building your app
Dec 13 13:21:06 <tsdogs> ho and in the 4.4.2 source there is also an sdk directory which I think you can use with the SDK...
Dec 13 13:22:14 <marius_> from the: Qt Extended 4.4.2 Open Source Package?
Dec 13 13:24:31 <tsdogs> yep there is a script make-sdk.sh which should build the sdk for the x86 target, and when you build for gta02 you will also have an sdk folder there.
Dec 13 13:25:08 <tsdogs> but haven't tryed any of thoose, so better ask ljp_
Dec 13 13:25:12 <tsdogs> ls -l
Dec 13 13:25:16 <tsdogs> opps
Dec 13 13:25:22 <marius_> he
Dec 13 13:26:19 <marius_> so i use make-sdk.sh localy on my computer?
Dec 13 13:27:31 <tsdogs> never did it. Though I'm a bit stuck as the 4.4.2 does not build for x86_64 target so development is hard to be done only on the phone and not using avfb
Dec 13 13:27:37 <tsdogs> s/avfb/qvfb/
Dec 13 13:27:49 <marius_> brand new info for me (and almost no documentation on the net) so i kind of need it feeded to me with a spoon...
Dec 13 13:28:31 <tsdogs> If the only thing you want is to build for your neo some package then probably you'll want to build qt-extended for the target device and then build the package.
Dec 13 13:29:07 <marius_> seemes to be what i want
Dec 13 13:29:33 <tsdogs> plenty of docs here : http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/
Dec 13 13:30:48 <marius_> used that doc a lot when writing the code
Dec 13 13:31:14 <marius_> but did not know it included building envirement eg.
Dec 13 13:31:32 <tsdogs> Well it's stated at the end that : "Binary compatibility to previous Qtopia releases is retained."
Dec 13 13:32:40 <tsdogs> so for what I understand binaries builded for qtopia4.3.2 are usable on the 4.4.2 version (?)
Dec 13 13:33:53 <marius_> need to check my dictionary
Dec 13 13:34:47 <tsdogs> marius_: probably the problem is the package format and not the toolchain or whatever.
Dec 13 13:35:28 <marius_> 4.3.2 is building wrong package format?
Dec 13 13:38:31 <tsdogs> well just a guess
Dec 13 13:39:10 <tsdogs> you did cross compile your app right?
Dec 13 13:39:22 <marius_> well
Dec 13 13:39:26 <marius_> i really don know
Dec 13 13:39:59 <marius_> i run source /opt/Qtopia/4.3.2/scripts/devel-ficgta01.sh
Dec 13 13:40:00 <tsdogs> if you do a "file <your application exec>"
Dec 13 13:40:18 <tsdogs> what does it say?
Dec 13 13:40:26 <marius_> it runs okay
Dec 13 13:40:32 <marius_> i den i run qtopimake
Dec 13 13:40:34 <marius_> make
Dec 13 13:40:42 <marius_> sdk -p and sdk -i
Dec 13 13:41:11 <marius_> everything is working ok... but when the Install progress appears on the FR
Dec 13 13:41:17 <marius_> it sais unsupportet package
Dec 13 13:41:29 <marius_> i was the example program in the SDK
Dec 13 13:42:00 <tsdogs> ok but the executable generated is for ARM or for x86 ?
Dec 13 13:42:44 <marius_> i sais example(some more)_arm.qpk
Dec 13 13:43:45 <tsdogs> so it should be be for arm ...
Dec 13 13:44:36 <marius_> i am transfering my old application to the gtafic01 SDK now
Dec 13 13:44:56 <marius_> just try to compile that one... instead of the example
Dec 13 13:47:27 <marius_> hmmm... just tried the make-sdk: ./make-sdk.sh 
Dec 13 13:47:27 <marius_> .: 5: Can't open /scripts/functions
Dec 13 13:48:01 <tsdogs> you need to set environment variables before running it
Dec 13 13:48:34 <marius_> heh
Dec 13 13:48:35 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 13:54:03 <tsdogs> marius_: can you try downloading a qpk file from the qtextended site and try installing it to the neo?
Dec 13 13:54:16 <tsdogs> that would confirm the packages are not compatible :)
Dec 13 13:54:35 <marius_> yah i can
Dec 13 13:55:05 <marius_> tried my own app now... same error
Dec 13 13:55:31 <marius_> but it's so trange
Dec 13 13:55:33 <marius_> strange
Dec 13 13:55:48 <marius_> dk -i
Dec 13 13:55:48 <marius_> Building /var/www/example_1.0.0-1_arm.qpd
Dec 13 13:55:48 <marius_> Adding to index: example
Dec 13 13:55:48 <marius_> Building /var/www/example_1.0.0-1_i386.qpd
Dec 13 13:55:48 <marius_> Adding to index: example
Dec 13 13:55:49 <marius_> Install process for example_1.0.0-1_arm.qpk successfully initiated
Dec 13 13:57:58 <tsdogs> hmm, well I have no idea, and haven't got a gta so probably somebody else can help you there.
Dec 13 13:58:04 <marius_> okay
Dec 13 13:58:12 <marius_> but i got a lot of help
Dec 13 13:58:34 <marius_> really appreciate it!
Dec 13 13:58:37 <marius_> thanx a lot!
Dec 13 13:59:02 <tsdogs> yw
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