**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 01 02:59:57 2009
Apr 01 06:29:45 <FilipLinux4> morning all
Apr 01 15:41:36 <KaraDog> git repo corrupted. will do a rebuild.
Apr 01 16:01:59 <sylar> hi
Apr 01 16:02:54 <sylar> where can i found the qt extended improved's maintainer?
Apr 01 16:34:30 <bnovc^> good afternoon
Apr 01 16:40:18 <bnovc^> I've noticed that QMailMessage::outputHeaderPart is incredibly inefficient and will crash your system given a reasonable sized header
Apr 01 17:57:38 <bnovc^> ugh, apparently it isn't fixed in 4.3.3 either
Apr 01 18:20:01 <radekp> Filip_log: just testing the patch
Apr 01 18:26:08 <FilipLinux4BE> hi folks
Apr 01 18:30:56 <bnovc> hello filip
Apr 01 18:31:58 <FilipLinux4BE> bnovc: looking at mail app ?
Apr 01 18:38:42 <bnovc> I am trying to fix a problem related to mail
Apr 01 18:39:04 <bnovc> QMailMessage::outputHeaderPart should not be a recursive function
Apr 01 18:39:44 <bnovc> I've tried changing it, but I'm not sure I did it correctly...still testing
Apr 01 18:41:20 <FilipLinux4BE> you had a problem with it, or just trying to optimise ?
Apr 01 18:45:21 <bnovc> FilipLinux4BE: it crashes the device I'm running it on because it uses too much memory
Apr 01 18:46:01 <bnovc> I have an email that it recurses 1200 times to parse in outputHeaderPart, with about 100KB per iteration
Apr 01 18:46:22 <bnovc> so it uses *many* megaybtes to parse it
Apr 01 18:46:34 <FilipLinux4BE> 1200 times? is it a bogus mail, or a valid one ?
Apr 01 18:46:38 <bnovc> valid email
Apr 01 18:46:42 <bnovc> just a large header
Apr 01 18:46:55 <bnovc> someone in HR decided to list everyone's name individually in an email, so we caught it
Apr 01 18:48:34 <bnovc> I've never done any work related to the email client we use though, so I want to test this very thoroughly first
Apr 01 18:48:45 <bnovc> it would be nice if qtopia had this fixed though
Apr 01 18:48:54 <FilipLinux4BE> 1200 to: 's, not really efficient ;-)
Apr 01 18:49:13 <bnovc> hm?
Apr 01 18:55:43 <bnovc> http://bnovc.pastebin.com/m5ea1f87f
Apr 01 18:58:25 <FilipLinux4BE> bnovc: what's int recursionDepth = 1; used for ?
Apr 01 18:58:47 <bnovc> erm i meant to take that out
Apr 01 18:58:54 <bnovc> i forgot "hg qrefresh" on that patch
Apr 01 18:59:28 <bnovc> I'm also going to change it back to taking a normal QByteArray not a pointer. I was originally going to make it just recurse more efficiently, but then decided it didn't need to at all
Apr 01 19:25:10 <FilipLinux4BE> radekp: about your tarball at http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qte-debian/
Apr 01 19:25:33 <FilipLinux4BE> is it useable for Franky ? (I supose you saw his email ) 
Apr 01 19:26:32 <FilipLinux4BE> does it require a small fat-partition with kernel to boot, and your tarball on second etx3 partition ?
Apr 01 19:28:51 <radekp> not sure if i saw the mail
Apr 01 19:29:57 <radekp> it should run for any partition and any fs
Apr 01 19:30:15 <radekp> but from my experience ext2 sucks, ext3 is fine
Apr 01 19:31:00 <radekp> i had a few some curruptions when using ext2 during testing, never with ext3
Apr 01 19:32:31 <radekp> FilipLinux4BE: what problem did Franky have?
Apr 01 19:34:35 <FilipLinux4BE> he had trouble finding a suitable starting point (a base image)
Apr 01 19:34:53 <FilipLinux4BE> without the need of doing a deboostrap etc. He tried FSO console etc
Apr 01 19:35:59 <FilipLinux4BE> my base image is very 'polluted': did a lot of testing on it, scrap files all over extra links, tools ...
Apr 01 19:36:11 <radekp> my image should be ok - if you delete /opt and remove changes in /etc/rc.local it's pure debian system
Apr 01 19:37:13 <radekp> i did a fresh install via NFS and it shouldnt contain any hack or extra packages
Apr 01 19:37:38 <radekp> btw your patch works great ;)
Apr 01 19:37:41 <FilipLinux4BE> ok, I've got a spare µSD around. I'll give a quick try. 
Apr 01 19:38:17 <FilipLinux4BE> my patch: If I have some more time I would like to re-do neobattery with udev as well. 
Apr 01 19:38:24 <radekp> do you know how we handle the GIT for 2.6.28 stuff?
Apr 01 19:38:36 <FilipLinux4BE> no more polling 
Apr 01 19:39:02 <radekp> yes, i like the udev way too
Apr 01 19:39:14 <FilipLinux4BE> GIT: so far all .28 patches should be non-intrusiven; even the uevent stuff. I did not remove the old signal.
Apr 01 19:40:50 <radekp> but i see that HouYu Li is not commiting them yet, nor i see a branch for it
Apr 01 19:41:59 <FilipLinux4BE> you're using a private GIT ?
Apr 01 19:42:51 <radekp> yes still yes, and i have decided not to use my server - because not enough space there
Apr 01 19:43:09 <radekp> so i want to use some public git - like your's github
Apr 01 19:43:14 <radekp> or git.or.cz
Apr 01 19:44:55 <radekp> i'd like to have branch that is tracking HouYu Li's tree and put there daily patches after i test them
Apr 01 19:45:01 <FilipLinux4BE> I want to avoid having mutliple GIT's for the same project.  I created it on github because HouYu Li seemed to be absent last week, and he was (is?) the only with access to the git
Apr 01 19:45:46 <FilipLinux4BE> you got an account on github  ? I'll add you if you want. 
Apr 01 19:46:21 <radekp> oki - that would be nice
Apr 01 19:47:01 <radekp> would it be possible on github to setup branch that is tracking HouYu Li's GIT?
Apr 01 19:47:29 <FilipLinux4BE> if you know how to do it, feel free. I'm new to GIT, I've been using svn till now 
Apr 01 19:47:51 <FilipLinux4BE> but git definitly has a couple of nice advantages over svn
Apr 01 19:48:28 <radekp> yes, it seems that merging works there :)
Apr 01 19:49:15 <radekp> what is needed to add my account on github?
Apr 01 19:50:28 <FilipLinux4BE> looks like I just need your accountname
Apr 01 19:50:46 <radekp> could be radekp :)
Apr 01 19:50:58 <FilipLinux4BE> btw: I also have a (legal) response from Nokia about the name (and the trademark on it)
Apr 01 19:52:19 <radekp> which name? QT extended?
Apr 01 19:52:35 <ljp> seems to be two repos for qtext on github
Apr 01 19:53:08 <FilipLinux4BE> radekp: both qtopia and qtextended are trademarked by Nokia (Trolltech)
Apr 01 19:53:32 <ljp> let me guess...
Apr 01 19:54:08 <FilipLinux4BE> radekp: seems like I can't find  'radekp'  on github
Apr 01 19:54:13 <FilipLinux4BE> ljp: ;-)
Apr 01 19:54:32 <ljp> so name it kpe :)
Apr 01 19:55:11 <FilipLinux4BE> From this perspective, a user may refer to Qt Extended (or Qtopia if they are using a pre- 4.4 version) as the software product (i.e. "I have created X product using the GPL licensed version of Qt Extended 4.4") and should maintain the copyright notices in accordance with GPL version 2.  The distinction is that the user should not market the product as if it is endorsed or sponsored by Nokia, Trolltech or Qt Software.
Apr 01 19:55:14 <radekp> FilipLinux4BE: maybe i have to register there?
Apr 01 19:55:52 <FilipLinux4BE> and: .... Please note that we have not granted any trademark usage rights beyond for use in marketing or branding the products. ...
Apr 01 19:56:32 <ljp> did that email mention anything about patents?
Apr 01 19:57:11 <FilipLinux4BE> ljp: no, nothing about patents. You mean like mp3 ?
Apr 01 19:57:51 <ljp> that and others...
Apr 01 19:57:55 <radekp> FilipLinux4BE: i should have account now
Apr 01 19:58:11 <FilipLinux4BE> ljp: I just added 'lpotter' as a collaborator on http://github.com/FilipBE/qtextended/
Apr 01 19:58:37 <ljp> such as 'looking up name from phone number' kind of thing
Apr 01 19:58:49 <ljp> ok cool. I just signed up there
Apr 01 19:59:14 <FilipLinux4BE> radekp: also collaborator now
Apr 01 19:59:31 <ljp> is this the 'free' one with only 300 mb space?
Apr 01 19:59:49 <radekp> FilipLinux4BE: oki cool, i will try to play with it tommorow
Apr 01 20:00:07 <radekp> FilipLinux4BE: gotta go sleep now, see you!
Apr 01 20:00:09 <ljp> if it is, there is not much space left ;(
Apr 01 20:00:10 <FilipLinux4BE> yes, but 300MB quota is not checked for GIT; only for uploads
Apr 01 20:00:20 <ljp> oh.. interesting
Apr 01 20:00:54 <FilipLinux4BE> I already checked with the admins. If we really want to use the upload features as well, we can have it increased.
Apr 01 20:01:30 <FilipLinux4BE> I was surprised with the size after the import. Seemed huge to me
Apr 01 20:01:36 <ljp> :)
Apr 01 20:01:53 <FilipLinux4BE> radekp: see you
Apr 01 20:02:22 <ljp> we might need to up it, especially if we introduce other applications and such
Apr 01 20:03:16 <FilipLinux4BE> I'll re-open the ticket to have it increased (doubled ?)
Apr 01 20:04:29 <ljp> there are a few new apps in other qtext gits...
Apr 01 20:05:37 <ljp> we need better hardware than OM
Apr 01 20:06:02 <FilipLinux4BE> any candidates you know of ?
Apr 01 20:06:34 <ljp> the HTC ones come to mind, but need to be run from sd
Apr 01 20:07:14 <ljp> one comes to mind, but it isnt released yet and I am not sure how open it is going to be
Apr 01 20:10:05 <FilipLinux4BE> Palm pre ?
Apr 01 20:10:22 <FilipLinux4BE> or an HTC
Apr 01 20:10:25 <ljp> there is that as well.
Apr 01 20:10:39 <ljp> freemantle
Apr 01 20:11:48 * FilipLinux4BE is google'ing for freemantle
Apr 01 20:15:59 <ljp> actually, we could even put additional apps into our own repos there
Apr 01 20:16:56 <ljp> http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle
Apr 01 20:17:38 <ljp> http://danny.damours.net/wordpress/index.php/archive/maemo-5-fremantle-new-features
Apr 01 20:18:10 <ljp> can neither confirm nor deny those rumours :)
Apr 01 20:18:32 <FilipLinux4BE> I still have a n800 in a drawer somewhere...
Apr 01 20:18:59 <ljp> would be ok for voip
Apr 01 20:20:32 <ljp> which I think woul need to be integrated from the last 4.2 qtopia release
Apr 01 20:22:34 <ljp> the n800 device config needs some work though
Apr 01 20:22:45 <ljp> audio is not straight forward
Apr 01 20:25:28 <FilipLinux4BE> any ETA for n900 ?
Apr 01 20:26:51 <ljp> dont know, and if I did, I could not tell you
Apr 01 20:27:14 <ljp> umm.... before the end of the year, I think
Apr 01 20:38:57 <FilipLinux4BE> ljp: Qt4.5 has a better webkit, any idea about the effoert to integrate it ?
Apr 01 20:39:40 <ljp> yep. one of the devs blogged about how to do that. it takes a few patches, and has not been tested on a device
Apr 01 20:40:19 <FilipLinux4BE> so looks like the effort is rather limited ?
Apr 01 20:40:22 <ljp> http://yasmar.net/qtopia/Using%20Qt%20Extended%204.4%20with%20Qt%204.5.html
Apr 01 20:40:50 <ljp> well, there are performance gains generally in 4.5, so it would be worth it
Apr 01 20:41:00 <FilipLinux4BE> ah, not only webkit, but full 4.5 
Apr 01 20:41:19 <ljp> indeed
Apr 01 20:42:08 <FilipLinux4BE> mostly licnese fixes :-)
Apr 02 02:39:39 <KaraDog> moring all.
Apr 02 02:41:29 <KaraDog> sorry for the corruption of git repo. Now it's re-setup. URL is not changed. Please do a new clone then.
Apr 02 02:45:07 <KaraDog> If you would like to submit code directly to the repo. Please drop me a E-mail with your public ssh key.
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