**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 26 02:59:57 2011 Aug 26 03:00:38 The room population is slowly dropping. Aug 26 03:00:52 Yeps. soon it shall be empty at this rate. Aug 26 03:01:08 I don't really care. Aug 26 03:01:19 /msg chanserv clear #touchdroid Aug 26 03:01:19 jbruchon do you want to make a touchdroid-offtopic channel? Aug 26 03:01:33 That's what every other channel is, by nature. Aug 26 03:01:48 heh Aug 26 03:01:53 btw rhcp glad to see your balls didnt get chopped off Aug 26 03:02:10 he's got BALLS OF STEEEEL! Aug 26 03:02:11 i am about to Aug 26 03:02:14 shes yelling at me Aug 26 03:02:39 i think shes given up on caring what i do at this point tbh Aug 26 03:03:42 'Tis no good rhcp! Aug 26 03:03:50 no its not Aug 26 03:04:00 let the ball chopping begin Aug 26 03:04:04 shes seeing me sick half to death bassically Aug 26 03:04:07 If you have issues at home, you need to get off IRC, okay. Aug 26 03:04:10 That's all. Aug 26 03:04:11 * evulhotdog initiates the fight Aug 26 03:04:18 Your health is what's important. Aug 26 03:04:33 my health and wants can be fixed Aug 26 03:04:42 our wants Aug 26 03:04:43 sorry Aug 26 03:04:44 so can your seminal vesicles. Aug 26 03:04:50 HAHAHAHA Aug 26 03:04:52 <_litz> if levity is required : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drawing-HP-Touchpad-16GB-WI-FI-9-7-WHITE-READ-/170687176878?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267 Aug 26 03:04:53 lol'd irl Aug 26 03:04:58 <_litz> (these people are nuts) Aug 26 03:05:05 still 963. Aug 26 03:05:06 rhcp: sorry, I hope that made you laugh Aug 26 03:05:10 bet it won't be paid for. Aug 26 03:05:16 WHAT. Aug 26 03:05:19 nopers Aug 26 03:05:26 but thanks for trying Aug 26 03:06:20 I'd buy that for a dollar Aug 26 03:06:39 omg Aug 26 03:06:40 Ah, Robocop… one of my favorite worst movies ever Aug 26 03:06:43 thats sick Aug 26 03:07:06 $10000 on a drawning Aug 26 03:07:10 oh god Aug 26 03:07:14 1000 now Aug 26 03:07:16 whats the one movie that has a robot kinda like Wall-E but is RL Aug 26 03:07:19 yea Aug 26 03:07:19 FamousTitties: you cost too much to hire for an hour :( Aug 26 03:07:20 I'm bidding $1250 Aug 26 03:07:23 fuck it Aug 26 03:07:25 thats what i meant Aug 26 03:07:26 I'm bidding 10 grand Aug 26 03:07:38 * acfrazier hopes they don't close my ebay account Aug 26 03:07:43 evulhotdog, Short Circuit Aug 26 03:07:48 "Johnny 5" Aug 26 03:07:52 jbruchon: trying to get new wirc to process nick events properly Aug 26 03:08:06 lmao someone bid 13.37 Aug 26 03:08:20 hm I'm signed in Aug 26 03:08:22 should I do it Aug 26 03:08:28 lol Aug 26 03:08:38 do u have 10 grandto blow? Aug 26 03:08:41 nope. Aug 26 03:08:47 I don't have 10 grand at all Aug 26 03:08:54 farchord this is the only part i remember Aug 26 03:08:57 him in a junkyard Aug 26 03:08:57 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POxMp61Ksbk Aug 26 03:09:06 then that should answerur question Aug 26 03:09:15 darn. Aug 26 03:09:19 farchord: Number Five is alive! Aug 26 03:09:30 trsohmers, yep :) Aug 26 03:09:36 LOL Aug 26 03:09:37 Ah, I used to love that movie as a kid Aug 26 03:09:39 I put in 1337 and I was outbid Aug 26 03:10:05 It's going to go for OVER 9000! Aug 26 03:10:17 you know id bid for a joke Aug 26 03:10:19 my luck id win Aug 26 03:10:22 I can tell, because I can see the pixels Aug 26 03:10:26 of the paper Aug 26 03:10:36 "You've been outbid. Bid again before it's too late!" Aug 26 03:10:43 No thanks, I think I'll pass. Aug 26 03:11:01 It's at 5,100 Aug 26 03:11:06 LOL Aug 26 03:11:08 omg Aug 26 03:11:16 alright Aug 26 03:11:18 time to get out the big guns Aug 26 03:11:21 acfrazier idk man you got almost 7 days to be outbide Aug 26 03:11:28 Well, I don't have time to troll bid Aug 26 03:11:35 Current bid: Aug 26 03:11:35 US $5,100.00 Aug 26 03:11:35 Your max bid: Aug 26 03:11:35 US $1,000,000.00 Aug 26 03:11:38 I'm doing it Aug 26 03:11:39 Back to work Aug 26 03:11:41 D: Aug 26 03:11:47 some college kid is gonna be thrilled Aug 26 03:11:54 you do know that you're contractually obligated to pay...right? Aug 26 03:12:00 omg this nick is scary Aug 26 03:12:17 I know, but you can have up to 3 unpaid strikes before they close your account Aug 26 03:12:19 taking one for the team. Aug 26 03:12:27 I don't even have $1M in assets, let alone cash Aug 26 03:12:37 loool Aug 26 03:12:42 aw. Aug 26 03:12:46 You won't do it. You have 0 balls. Aug 26 03:12:49 Alert Aug 26 03:12:49 To help protect your eBay account, we sometimes limit the amount of items that can be bid on or purchased by a single account. However, you may be able to increase the limit on your account by verifying some information about yourself. Aug 26 03:12:51 I did do it Aug 26 03:12:52 but I got that Aug 26 03:13:06 aww Aug 26 03:13:08 We'll review your report carefully and take appropriate action. You don't need to contact us about your report again. Aug 26 03:13:18 8,400 Aug 26 03:13:20 trying 10K Aug 26 03:13:35 LOL SOMEONE ELSE PUT 10K before me Aug 26 03:13:50 that 0 feedback bidder did. Aug 26 03:14:01 luckily since he put 10k before me that means he will win it Aug 26 03:14:06 rhcp what report Aug 26 03:14:15 i repoted the picture Aug 26 03:14:19 on ebay Aug 26 03:14:22 evulhotdog, HAHAHA "Don't worry, my cousin was a Harley Davidson." Aug 26 03:14:30 lol Aug 26 03:14:34 farchord hahahaha Aug 26 03:14:34 Pretty sure that picture design infringes on hp's patents >.> Aug 26 03:14:42 lmao Aug 26 03:15:02 at this rate he'll have money for his own lgal team Aug 26 03:15:23 10k Aug 26 03:15:24 omg Aug 26 03:15:51 "Heeereee's JOHNNY!" Aug 26 03:16:10 that robot is amazing Aug 26 03:16:29 RobbieJ: nah, Apple's patents. Aug 26 03:16:38 probably both Aug 26 03:16:47 classaction by hp + apple tbh Aug 26 03:17:11 10.1 Aug 26 03:17:44 SO who wants to port iOS to the device next? ;P Aug 26 03:17:57 AFK means Away From Keyboard Aug 26 03:18:12 since people seem to not understand that and PM me as if I'm still here. Aug 26 03:18:13 Thanks. Aug 26 03:18:21 Good night! Aug 26 03:18:25 G'night Aug 26 03:18:33 I'm going to go watch Burn Notice Aug 26 03:19:54 <_litz> hmmpf ... I've never bothered with "AFK" and stuff like that. For me, IRC just stays open 24/7. Aug 26 03:20:02 <_litz> msg's will be waiting when I wake up. Aug 26 03:20:27 same, _litz Aug 26 03:24:38 This is how an IRC channel is run ;). You should probably mention to PM an active op to get +v Aug 26 03:24:48 ya I'll add that Aug 26 03:25:42 !op Aug 26 03:26:41 xD Aug 26 03:27:45 lol chanserv told me I didnt have rights to set topic, fie on the thing's grave! Aug 26 03:28:22 anyway I'm gonna go compile my brand new sleep kernel. Aug 26 03:28:30 talk to youse tomorroze! Aug 26 03:41:32 wow its still going up Aug 26 03:41:33 http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&_trksid=p4340.l2565&item=170687176878 Aug 26 03:48:29 evulhotdog: It's shill bidding being done to make the fees for listing go sky high for the bidder. Aug 26 03:49:27 roadkill wow, douche move by all of them. So even if the buyer doesnt pay, the seller has to pay the fee's just because it sold? even if the buyer doesnt pay? Aug 26 03:50:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=UKM6NdFsJxU Aug 26 03:50:40 CHECK THAT OUT Aug 26 03:51:07 Yeah that was on the SD forum post Aug 26 03:51:40 My order from onSale somehow shipped, I ordered Sunday at 5:00MST and used standard shipping for a 32gb Aug 26 03:52:58 xaios congratz, youre one of the few lol Aug 26 03:54:22 where is the patched touchroid kernel Aug 26 03:59:16 p***o( 21) US $70,100.00 Aug 26 03:59:16 Aug-25-11 20:54:48 PDT Aug 26 03:59:38 evulhotdog? Aug 26 03:59:54 sCr|pTiC- Drawing of HP Touchpad 16GB, WI-FI, 9.7 - WHITE -READ Aug 26 04:00:04 its at 70,000 Aug 26 04:00:36 evul, it's pretty much irrelevant. Aug 26 04:01:21 your other OPs in this channel were talking about it before and posting it, but now that they left whatever... Aug 26 04:05:08 70k is crazy Aug 26 04:05:31 ? Aug 26 04:05:35 70k for what? Aug 26 04:06:51 Again. It's trolls driving the bidding price up to fuck over the scammer trying to sell a paper with a drawing of a touchpad. It's really fucking irrelevant. Aug 26 04:08:11 trsohmers: there's only one touchpro, one device to support Aug 26 04:08:35 if the donations thing for fbdev android is over then it's time to get one project getting this done for realz Aug 26 04:08:47 tmzt: What are you talking about? Aug 26 04:09:14 Oh, the separate teams Aug 26 04:10:14 Welcome to #touchdroid | We're in lockdown. Voice/Ops only for actual developers. | No donations. Ever. | There is a full DD dump out there. If you're a dev, shit or get off of the pot. | Twitter: @jbruchon for info/updates Aug 26 04:13:08 trsohmers: I only know that I saw you mention the thing in #webos-internals talking to rwhitby, I'm for getting things built and helping those that are working towards that Aug 26 04:13:35 there doesn't need to be a monetary motive, in a longer term support role donations can have a positive impact Aug 26 04:14:05 especially hardware donations, as that is usually what is lacking in these projects, devs with hardware Aug 26 04:14:40 tmzt: hence the changes to this channel. if you're a dev without a touchpad, you're not a dev. Aug 26 04:14:58 I'm in quite a few channels related to touchpad android development, opd in a few by people I know Aug 26 04:15:12 :) Aug 26 04:15:25 FedEx, pl0x give me delivery tomorrow? Aug 26 04:15:25 :P Aug 26 04:15:48 roadkill: I may be able to acquire hardware or not, I"ve contributed to #htc-linux #android #g2root and #webos-internals all without hardware and in a support role to others with it Aug 26 04:16:05 tmzt: jb's the one to talk to. up to him. no one else. Aug 26 04:16:26 where is patched kernel? doesn't seem to be at github.com Aug 26 04:17:34 is kernel building for tp yet? based on pyra or not Aug 26 04:17:59 Pyramid based kernel Aug 26 04:18:02 no worky Aug 26 04:18:06 the other one does though Aug 26 04:19:34 tmzt: I don't really care about donations… I just plan on sending most of any money I receive to the EFF Aug 26 04:20:01 but tmzt, how familiar are you with webOS doctor and meta Doctor? Aug 26 04:20:04 If you don't care about donations, just don't collect money. Aug 26 04:20:05 Framework: android boots on the other one Aug 26 04:20:37 trsohmers: I'm not really, I know what rwhitby and the team have been doing with it but not the specifics Aug 26 04:20:40 Framework: ? Aug 26 04:20:48 roadkill: I would ask any one that would like to submit donations to send it to the EFF or FSF Aug 26 04:21:03 craptain: any reason to pm that? Aug 26 04:21:58 :) thanks Aug 26 04:22:16 uh, he can contribute positively or lose it Aug 26 04:22:18 I guess Aug 26 04:22:18 Short leash, craptain. Aug 26 04:22:32 i like drama, but i have skills, it's a trade off Aug 26 04:22:39 i built a uimage from the boot.img on android Aug 26 04:22:54 trsohmers, I don't see the need to send money to the EFF or FSF when there are people out there in the world who are starving. Aug 26 04:23:04 but i need a place to stick the system.img Aug 26 04:23:06 to mount it Aug 26 04:23:15 or i could make a big ass ramdisk Aug 26 04:23:42 i'm scared to trash p13 as bootie may like there Aug 26 04:23:45 ...oh wait Aug 26 04:23:50 boot is different Aug 26 04:24:01 you built initrd into the uimage? Aug 26 04:24:10 err Aug 26 04:24:18 i transformed boot.img into uimage Aug 26 04:24:29 had this working yesterday with a custom build Aug 26 04:24:46 but nowhere to stick the system image yet Aug 26 04:25:14 do we know what happens if bootie gets corrupted? Aug 26 04:26:08 did you include boot.img in the uiamge? Aug 26 04:26:10 on msm, no Aug 26 04:26:19 on omap3 it's usally recoverable but no idea on msm Aug 26 04:26:26 talk to #webos-internals Aug 26 04:27:03 Framework: That's your personal opinion. You can use whatever money you make for that. We each have our own opinions. Aug 26 04:27:25 Ok, and are you accepting donations at this time? Aug 26 04:27:35 ron paul 2012 Aug 26 04:27:40 lol Aug 26 04:28:08 me likes ^ Aug 26 04:28:59 Framework: I am not accepting donations. I am just suggesting that if people want to support any sort of development, then they should donate to support the people that support developers Aug 26 04:29:04 you should know that people like to donate whether you request or not Aug 26 04:29:10 and explicity ask for buttons and links Aug 26 04:29:18 you can, of course, deny them Aug 26 04:29:41 and stop collecting money instead of saying you're going to give donations to the EFF yourself. Aug 26 04:29:43 why do i feel like instead of talking donations Aug 26 04:29:47 we talk development Aug 26 04:29:56 roadkill, Aug 26 04:30:03 you have a tablet right? Aug 26 04:30:08 Yes. Aug 26 04:30:16 what are you doing this weekend Aug 26 04:30:22 playing with myself. Aug 26 04:30:25 nice Aug 26 04:30:25 er, I mean, my tablet. Aug 26 04:30:33 SamCripp Aug 26 04:30:36 What you got in mind, Sam? Aug 26 04:30:37 you knew a TP to be held? Aug 26 04:30:48 ima talk to a few of the guys over at adt Aug 26 04:31:00 and we are gonna come up with a solution for mounting and booting Aug 26 04:31:04 we need a ginie pig Aug 26 04:31:13 I have only one request. Aug 26 04:31:14 mounting and booting? Aug 26 04:31:15 we just release prebeta3 of cm7 for atrix Aug 26 04:31:20 so we are still doing some stuff Aug 26 04:31:23 roadkill: I have collected a total of $30, and I donated that to the EFF Aug 26 04:31:28 That I have a way to make a full image of my tablet as is that I can restore. Aug 26 04:31:34 I have told people NOT to give me any money, and to send it directly to the EFF Aug 26 04:31:40 but hopefully i can talk to a few and see if they help me figure out the way it should work Aug 26 04:31:44 I have NEVER asked for donations to be sent to me Aug 26 04:31:49 trsohmers: That you're STILL talking about money is a problem. Aug 26 04:32:03 omg i will post image and take all donations Aug 26 04:32:09 lol Aug 26 04:32:12 then fund terrorism Aug 26 04:32:17 and republicans Aug 26 04:32:19 roadkill: What makes you think I am about money? Aug 26 04:32:21 you did ask if he is still accepting donations Aug 26 04:32:29 guys Aug 26 04:32:32 anyway Aug 26 04:32:34 I am NOT accepting donations, oy. Aug 26 04:32:37 the next person that talks about donations will get kick ban Aug 26 04:32:45 ^^^^^ Aug 26 04:33:01 Final word: I have asked anyone that has asked to donate to instead send it to the EFF. That's it. Aug 26 04:33:16 Dude Aug 26 04:33:18 what was that Aug 26 04:33:30 drama Aug 26 04:33:45 Guys, lets be happy and sing this song : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWgEoaAYDY Aug 26 04:33:49 is all drama Aug 26 04:33:55 anyways Aug 26 04:34:03 who currently in here Aug 26 04:34:06 with voice Aug 26 04:34:10 who is worried about recovery issues on tp? Aug 26 04:34:11 have a device? Aug 26 04:34:19 I do Aug 26 04:34:19 ooo me me me Aug 26 04:34:23 brick brick brick brick Aug 26 04:34:24 I do and am willing to test as long as I can recover. Aug 26 04:34:27 Yeah, drama he didn't bring up, he stated his position and you guys blew it out of proportion Aug 26 04:34:34 it over Aug 26 04:34:36 xaios: Stop talking about. Aug 26 04:34:36 it's over Aug 26 04:34:36 you will brick Aug 26 04:39:20 :) Aug 26 04:39:28 bikcmp: hey Aug 26 04:39:32 hi Aug 26 04:40:25 your name Aug 26 04:40:27 is so familiar Aug 26 04:40:33 mine? Aug 26 04:40:35 yeah Aug 26 04:40:38 that's what tmzt just said Aug 26 04:40:49 06:31:56 remind me rq were I know you from Aug 26 04:40:50 haha Aug 26 04:40:54 where have I seen you before.... Aug 26 04:41:02 thunderbolt? Aug 26 04:41:03 Framework: most people know me from an irc network i founded/help run Aug 26 04:41:05 yeah Aug 26 04:41:08 lul Aug 26 04:41:10 that might have been it Aug 26 04:41:13 you founded andirc? Aug 26 04:41:15 no Aug 26 04:41:17 eh Aug 26 04:41:22 Framework: basically, for a bit Aug 26 04:41:26 a network i staff on was linked Aug 26 04:41:33 it ended up not going so well, but hey, what are you gonna do? Aug 26 04:41:43 onomnom Aug 26 04:41:49 probably for the best, really Aug 26 04:41:58 the two networks had a different objective Aug 26 04:42:11 Framework: fwiw... fuck htc. Aug 26 04:42:12 * bikcmp ducks Aug 26 04:42:25 "we're no longer locking bootloaders" Aug 26 04:42:29 ok. Aug 26 04:42:32 um, not quite Aug 26 04:42:35 so why did you ship the htc evo 3d with one? Aug 26 04:42:39 they are no longer offering warantees :0 Aug 26 04:42:46 or how about the OTA giving the htc evo a locked bootloader? Aug 26 04:42:55 <3 samsung. Aug 26 04:43:04 so, you all got touchpads? Aug 26 04:43:04 <3 samsung Aug 26 04:43:10 * bikcmp hugs Framework Aug 26 04:43:18 samsung doesn't lock stuff down and generally doesn't care Aug 26 04:43:19 anyway, htc is relevant to this project because most of what they do is msm Aug 26 04:43:20 so, <3 Aug 26 04:43:32 tmzt: yeah, but the tp isn't locked down Aug 26 04:43:36 therefore, <3 hp/palm Aug 26 04:43:37 mostly palm Aug 26 04:43:39 even though this particular device is hp Aug 26 04:43:43 and palm, right Aug 26 04:43:46 RIP Palm Aug 26 04:43:47 :( Aug 26 04:43:47 ... Aug 26 04:43:48 which had completely unlocked pre's Aug 26 04:43:52 yeah Aug 26 04:43:57 it's such a shame palm went under. Aug 26 04:44:04 regardless Aug 26 04:44:06 twice Aug 26 04:44:09 Apple owes more to Palm than anyone else. Aug 26 04:44:09 any of you got a touchpad from costcentral? Aug 26 04:44:13 roadkill: aye Aug 26 04:44:16 no Aug 26 04:44:17 Yea, Palm wasn't too bad… they just needed a better marketing team Aug 26 04:44:18 Hp.com Aug 26 04:44:20 webos is, like, fantastic Aug 26 04:44:21 -_- Aug 26 04:44:24 Marketing and developer outreach Aug 26 04:44:27 hm Aug 26 04:44:33 roadkill: palm owes quite a bit to apple though, they did the connected version of the newton Aug 26 04:44:33 i've ordered 2 tp's from costcentral Aug 26 04:44:35 on sunday Aug 26 04:44:41 this kernel doesn't boot Aug 26 04:44:42 no cancelation notice, and it's been 6 days Aug 26 04:44:46 android is a scam Aug 26 04:44:47 no shipping notice either, but yeah Aug 26 04:44:51 guys i dont see how this is development Aug 26 04:44:57 Okay guys, this is not dev chat. Aug 26 04:45:01 sure Aug 26 04:45:04 #touchpad, then Aug 26 04:45:07 KERNEL IS BUSTED Aug 26 04:45:07 what kernel doesn't boot Aug 26 04:45:14 the one from the dump Aug 26 04:45:16 no boot Aug 26 04:45:23 very hard to follow what's going on here, no status updates Aug 26 04:45:34 what's going on, btw? Aug 26 04:45:37 what dump? Aug 26 04:45:38 why's the channel +m? Aug 26 04:45:39 We're in lockdown. Aug 26 04:45:42 yeah, why? Aug 26 04:45:46 attacks? Aug 26 04:45:47 If you're not a developer, fuck off. Basically. Aug 26 04:45:57 i see Aug 26 04:46:04 craptain: what kernel in the dump... Aug 26 04:46:12 morale and comraderie is important to any project Aug 26 04:46:13 there is a kernel config file, but no kerne; Aug 26 04:46:13 l Aug 26 04:47:20 I think somebody asked a question Aug 26 04:47:40 about a kernel not booting Aug 26 04:47:44 to get on the same page Aug 26 04:49:18 since i assume that HP provided the source for a bootable kernel (as per GPL), you must mean pyra? Aug 26 04:49:41 to get pyra booting do one of two things, import the board from tenderloin Aug 26 04:49:52 or port the drivers you need from pyra to tenderloin Aug 26 04:49:58 mhm… tenderloin.... Aug 26 04:50:02 use a config that matches the actual hardware Aug 26 04:50:05 Best board name ever Aug 26 04:50:11 not one that matches the kernel Aug 26 04:51:27 Well I am going to get some sleep so I can get up and get in line Aug 26 04:51:57 android qualcomm dump? what is 8.img? Aug 26 04:52:26 one sec tmzt Aug 26 04:52:45 you're making me dig into my notes just when I am about to go to sleep... Aug 26 04:52:45 grrr Aug 26 04:52:50 ramdisk Aug 26 04:52:52 dig faster Aug 26 04:53:19 how is any of this relevant to a kernel that supports android and also supports the tenderloin hardware? Aug 26 04:54:37 tmzt: the nand block systems. 8 is bootimage IIRC. Aug 26 04:55:16 oy, I need to take better notes Aug 26 04:55:37 ./mtd/block/mmcblk0p8 = 8.img Aug 26 04:55:45 Probably typing them on the computer would be smart, but it's so much easier to write things ontop of each other on post it notes Aug 26 04:57:14 what was really weird was that there was no /proc/mtd Aug 26 04:57:19 partition 8? Aug 26 04:57:40 no is Aug 26 04:57:42 no Aug 26 04:57:42 is emmc Aug 26 04:57:47 That too Aug 26 04:57:50 and is not mtd/blcok Aug 26 04:57:56 there was no /proc/emmc Aug 26 04:57:58 is /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 Aug 26 04:58:06 they wont show Aug 26 04:58:35 right, /dev, not /mtd as I typed. that was from memory. Aug 26 05:00:09 you make this harder than it really is Aug 26 05:00:21 port tenderloin board to pyra kernel Aug 26 05:00:23 and boot Aug 26 05:00:31 no recovery, definately no bootloader Aug 26 05:01:56 android is linux, boot linux and you can boot android Aug 26 05:02:00 webos is also linux Aug 26 05:03:13 recovery as a first step is a waste of resources, really Aug 26 05:03:32 http://pastebin.com/WFkur8vh Aug 26 05:03:34 there Aug 26 05:03:35 read Aug 26 05:04:09 what am I reading? Aug 26 05:04:17 nand layout Aug 26 05:04:35 from /dev/block Aug 26 05:04:36 you might want to dump a partition table Aug 26 05:04:41 those are just the block devices Aug 26 05:05:00 http://pastebin.com/NMSqswdf Aug 26 05:05:28 same thing, different source Aug 26 05:05:45 with sizes Aug 26 05:05:54 partition table could not be get Aug 26 05:05:57 unfortunatly Aug 26 05:06:05 fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Aug 26 05:06:07 we dont have access to this device to try other methods Aug 26 05:06:13 or sfdisk -u s -l /dev/mmcblk0 Aug 26 05:06:13 only had it for a few hours Aug 26 05:06:17 and then it puffed Aug 26 05:06:22 puffed? Aug 26 05:06:32 what did you do to it? Aug 26 05:06:35 fdisk and sfdisk? when everything was done over adb shell to begin with? Aug 26 05:06:41 guy had to work then our younger friend there got a hold of the guy Aug 26 05:06:48 and now we dont know where the guy is Aug 26 05:06:50 we're lucky we even had dd on the device Aug 26 05:07:00 the install a chroot debian Aug 26 05:07:10 SamCripp: What device is that pulled from? Aug 26 05:07:18 jiwi or whatever Aug 26 05:07:35 The 2.2 touchpad? Aug 26 05:07:40 yes indeed Aug 26 05:07:46 trsohmers|sleep: What we did was dd the blocks. Aug 26 05:07:49 we had access to it Aug 26 05:07:53 very early today Aug 26 05:07:56 SamCripp: As did I Aug 26 05:07:59 around 8am central Aug 26 05:07:59 partition layout is unlikely to change between 2.2 and 3.x Aug 26 05:08:01 wonderful Aug 26 05:08:04 gold sticker for you Aug 26 05:08:11 also, if you have a dd of /dev/mmcblk0 you have everythign you need Aug 26 05:08:19 indeed Aug 26 05:08:25 just fdisk/sfdisk the file instead Aug 26 05:08:32 SamCripp: Really, is there any reason why you have to be like that? Aug 26 05:08:40 no Aug 26 05:08:47 but it makes my night more intersting Aug 26 05:08:52 as i wrestl to understand Aug 26 05:08:58 why am i here Aug 26 05:09:05 trsohmers|sleep: This isn't a pissing contest. Seriously. it's not about oneupmanship, we got a DD dump going 16 hours ago. That's what we released. Aug 26 05:09:20 dude Aug 26 05:09:21 forget it Aug 26 05:09:23 first, what does the mmc layout give you? Aug 26 05:09:23 please Aug 26 05:09:34 that you don't already have Aug 26 05:09:38 roadkill: You seem to be making it a pissing contest by being the one to be insisting you did it first Aug 26 05:09:38 for me is useful Aug 26 05:09:46 as my attemps will be to mock up the system Aug 26 05:10:04 you could build a 100% in qemu Aug 26 05:10:10 but it would get you nowhere Aug 26 05:10:16 nope Aug 26 05:10:25 def not what im trying to do Aug 26 05:10:27 AndroidBall released an incomplete dump… all I did was release a complete one Aug 26 05:10:40 this isn't even an re job Aug 26 05:10:46 trsohmers|sleep: We released the dd images before your complete dump. 8am. Aug 26 05:10:49 it's mergeing two gpl'd kernels Aug 26 05:10:53 roadkill: link please? Aug 26 05:10:56 im going to kick you both Aug 26 05:10:57 srsly Aug 26 05:10:58 everything except gpu should be doable Aug 26 05:10:59 shut up Aug 26 05:13:16 anyways Aug 26 05:13:20 tmzt, Aug 26 05:13:37 unlike the guys ehre trying to make a new release Aug 26 05:14:23 i want to start by simply dual booting the imgs we got Aug 26 05:14:27 is possible Aug 26 05:14:31 very little effort Aug 26 05:14:39 and it could give us great insigth Aug 26 05:19:32 SamCripp: uh, the kernel for the pyramid will not boot on the tp as is, the other hardware and firwmare is too different Aug 26 05:19:42 yeah Aug 26 05:19:56 then im confused Aug 26 05:20:01 you ned modules and ramdisk from the kernel in the android Aug 26 05:20:06 try that Aug 26 05:20:12 on the android in images Aug 26 05:20:16 FUCK I NEED A TP Aug 26 05:22:45 tmzt, im sorry do you have a unit Aug 26 05:22:51 and are compiling the kernel Aug 26 05:22:57 or is someone testing for you? Aug 26 05:28:28 im unmuting this channel Aug 26 05:28:30 please guys Aug 26 05:28:39 if anyone is up and away Aug 26 05:28:43 i ned help from you Aug 26 05:28:51 i need someone Aug 26 05:28:59 i have working adb :)) Aug 26 05:29:00 with a "rooted" stock pad Aug 26 05:29:07 nice Aug 26 05:29:44 using generic ramdisk Aug 26 05:29:45 if i had a touchpad, i'd offer help :\ Aug 26 05:29:46 what you neee Aug 26 05:29:53 need* Aug 26 05:29:58 i need someone to try and run Aug 26 05:30:05 cat /proc/cmdline Aug 26 05:30:10 on a stock regular Aug 26 05:30:16 i want to see somethi Aug 26 05:30:21 hopefully this works Aug 26 05:30:22 not sure Aug 26 05:30:28 dmesg shows it too Aug 26 05:30:36 I'm guessing I need term Aug 26 05:30:40 yes Aug 26 05:30:44 is a lionx comand Aug 26 05:30:45 i saw it yesterday, what specifally do you want from it? Aug 26 05:30:46 via ubuntu Aug 26 05:31:00 or I can just install via preware Aug 26 05:31:03 uh ? uhm i have onw Aug 26 05:31:03 you could yes ssh to the machine and do it Aug 26 05:31:37 craptain, do you have the full thing Aug 26 05:31:41 maybe pastebin it to me Aug 26 05:31:45 i want a stock machine Aug 26 05:31:54 i already got a machine wunnign android Aug 26 05:31:56 define stock Aug 26 05:32:01 webOS Aug 26 05:32:12 is Aug 26 05:32:22 * aDr|aN- stock + preware Aug 26 05:32:29 sam, i'm usb'd in and have preware & openssh installed Aug 26 05:32:40 ssh to the machine Aug 26 05:32:41 gain root Aug 26 05:32:43 and run Aug 26 05:32:50 cat ?proc?cmdline Aug 26 05:32:56 woopsno ? Aug 26 05:33:04 1s getting my ip Aug 26 05:33:04 cat /proc/cmdline Aug 26 05:33:24 i know cat :) (no system dev experience, but lots of server admin & web software dev experience) Aug 26 05:33:48 brb getting a snickers Aug 26 05:35:25 who here has a dummy unit? Aug 26 05:35:55 or a unit they are willing to sacrifice for science Aug 26 05:36:05 please dont you all rush at once Aug 26 05:36:06 lol Aug 26 05:36:34 * hazymind has been sacrificing his TP for science for a week Aug 26 05:36:54 adb shell working :) Aug 26 05:36:56 I already had to wipe back to stock 3 times from it being unbootable :p Aug 26 05:37:06 craptain, nj Aug 26 05:37:27 it panics when i go full android though Aug 26 05:37:31 never go full android Aug 26 05:37:45 well my experiment is well Aug 26 05:37:55 one that will mostlikely vrick it Aug 26 05:37:58 but craptain, sometimes in the heat of the moment Aug 26 05:37:58 if gone wrong Aug 26 05:38:10 so i need someone who truly has a pad to spare Aug 26 05:38:22 @SamCripp what are you trying to do? Aug 26 05:38:25 SamCripp, I need mine for a trip with or without android :p sorry Aug 26 05:38:31 partition the nande Aug 26 05:38:43 well a little birdy told me my best buy might get some tomorrow Aug 26 05:38:46 What is your logic exactly? Aug 26 05:39:00 honestly pure theory Aug 26 05:39:04 so i'm going in early to try to snag one, and if i do, i'll help test. Aug 26 05:39:04 what do you want to do? Aug 26 05:39:07 sam, srry, i just installed everything using the webos quickinstall gui, i don't see a term client on the tp to setup my auth key file Aug 26 05:39:08 i want to see if webos will freak Aug 26 05:39:09 It might be worth it to talk it out in the channel before we attempt to brick someone's TP Aug 26 05:39:15 at the missing sppace Aug 26 05:39:18 if it dont Aug 26 05:39:26 i could write a script Aug 26 05:39:32 and we could layout tonight Aug 26 05:39:43 agreed Aug 26 05:39:55 dont brick Aug 26 05:39:57 unfortunatly Aug 26 05:40:02 installing SDLTerminal Aug 26 05:40:03 no device for dev Aug 26 05:40:10 I thought the doctor could save any tp Aug 26 05:40:16 do it in ram Aug 26 05:40:22 not if you trash bootie Aug 26 05:40:28 true. Aug 26 05:40:28 at least i think Aug 26 05:40:34 haven't tried Aug 26 05:40:47 <|Jason8|> What's the good word, guys? Aug 26 05:40:48 http://i.imgur.com/D8Y5I.jpg <-- you can be boss and run android bootloader though Aug 26 05:40:53 does to have some form of recovery Aug 26 05:41:06 tp Aug 26 05:41:42 it does have serial acess Aug 26 05:41:51 do we have the tools to recover using serial? Aug 26 05:42:43 it also has a qualcomm bootloader accessible over usb Aug 26 05:42:54 qhsusb_dload Aug 26 05:43:31 cod sneeeease invet teo fnigouiiiiii ol reccccccy aare avila for thedvce Aug 26 05:43:41 sorry Aug 26 05:43:46 crazy keyboard Aug 26 05:43:47 ooo, thats exciting, button combo for bootloader? Aug 26 05:43:50 ? Aug 26 05:44:01 who was kicked out of the group Aug 26 05:44:14 no drama Aug 26 05:44:14 any devs in Colorado? pretty sure ill have an extra tomorrow. Aug 26 05:44:26 SamCripp: i'm using the term from the quickinstaller instead of ssh Aug 26 05:44:28 not sure i got in it by pressing some buttons and booting a bad kernel Aug 26 05:44:39 -m Aug 26 05:44:58 can someone please get info on wheter we have tools or not for recovery Aug 26 05:45:31 qhsusb_dload will work no matter what you do to the eMMC, but not sure how to use it atm Aug 26 05:45:35 so guys, what happened w/ the system dump that took place late last night? will it speed up the process Aug 26 05:45:46 can't u just run "webosdoctorp302hstnhwifi.jar" ? Aug 26 05:45:54 better question,any devs in gainesvile? Aug 26 05:46:20 the doctor can't fix a tp thats in qcom bootloader Aug 26 05:46:56 so, we'd need another tool due to changed partitions? Aug 26 05:47:28 wget ;) THANK U BUSYBOX Aug 26 05:48:41 i should ask if anyone with an extra device is in puerto rico? Aug 26 05:48:46 anyone? Aug 26 05:49:10 can somebody point me to the patched kernel? Aug 26 05:49:22 (source) Aug 26 05:50:26 iptables :/ Aug 26 05:50:48 i'm guessing QPST would be able to interact with the qcom loader. but from there its anybodies guess. in practice you need to be able to program the sdram controller before you can copy anything to it Aug 26 05:54:11 maybe it would be a good idea to figure out exactly where bootie is stored. can't be that hard to just not dd to its location Aug 26 05:55:38 SamCripp: ok, shell'd in now over wifi Aug 26 05:55:44 ls -alh /proc/cmdline >> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Aug 26 01:51 /proc/cmdline Aug 26 05:56:15 thats cat /proc/cmdline Aug 26 05:56:19 ? Aug 26 05:56:32 root=/dev/mmcblk0p13 rootwait ro fb=0x7f600000 fbcon=disable console=ttyS0,115200n8 nduid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pvt lastboot=reboot Aug 26 05:56:49 redacted nduid Aug 26 05:56:57 thats fine Aug 26 05:59:09 hmm Aug 26 06:05:26 you guys seen this? Aug 26 06:05:30 http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/palm-pre-android-2-3-gingerbread.html Aug 26 06:05:54 are we trying to reinvent the wheel? Aug 26 06:06:07 maybe contact this person? Aug 26 06:07:25 kidmet: regarding building a rom & flashing, or regarding gingerbread? Aug 26 06:07:52 not gingerbread... Aug 26 06:07:59 or any of that... Aug 26 06:08:52 possibly figuring out steps, getting tips, methods... I know the ore and touchpad are way different in many ways... but might helo? Aug 26 06:08:55 help Aug 26 06:08:58 then the strategy dual booting is what you're after? Aug 26 06:09:01 ah Aug 26 06:10:00 I was just throwing it out. but I'm also a.non dev and should prob stfu and sit on the sidelines. Aug 26 06:10:06 where I belong. Aug 26 06:15:40 lololol just got banned from #webos, rwhitby is such a cocksucker =) Aug 26 06:16:13 Tommy: I love you, but you hardly talk anymore Aug 26 06:16:25 so it looks to me like the AMSS is stored in mmcblk0p1 Aug 26 06:16:26 Xavierdarkness: lol sup bro?! Aug 26 06:16:40 Xavierdarkness: i spent the last 2 1/2 months in africa and australia, haven't been around IRC a hell of a lot Aug 26 06:16:54 and p2,3,4,5,6,7,8, and 9 have various boot loaders and there backups Aug 26 06:17:35 Tommy: oh interesting. I'll bug ya in Cyanogenmod. Let these people do whatever it is their doing Aug 26 06:17:48 Xavierdarkness: they do nothing in here afaik Aug 26 06:17:57 #webos just constantly talks shit about this channel and what a zoo it is in here Aug 26 06:18:13 Ah Aug 26 06:18:21 tommy where is the real work being done? Aug 26 06:18:36 kidmet: i don't know, ask rwhitby & co in #webos Aug 26 06:18:41 they're the ones downing this channel all the time Aug 26 06:18:56 LOL Aug 26 06:19:06 I don't wanna get caught in irc drama Aug 26 06:19:11 he's been butthurt since HP admitted #webos is a failure Aug 26 06:19:21 just curious where the real devs are. Aug 26 06:19:34 i've been in that channel for months, never kicked/banned, since webOS was thrown in the trash i've been kicked 3 times and banned once Aug 26 06:19:49 Tommy. Aug 26 06:19:54 any1 have a lead on qualcomm's source? social engineering may be more effective than reverse engineering in this case Aug 26 06:19:56 This channel is not for bitching about others. Aug 26 06:20:20 If you want to shittalk rwhitby, you're pretty much not welcome here, either. Aug 26 06:20:28 lol Aug 26 06:20:36 what partitions are in the dd image? Aug 26 06:20:52 not in the mood Aug 26 06:20:59 Neither am I. Aug 26 06:21:37 Reminder: This channel is for dev talk, be it images, kernel or dumps. Of topic? Go to #touchpad. No drama, no bitching or it'll just go +m again. Aug 26 06:21:45 Of/Off Aug 26 06:22:49 jonpry: 17 total, 1 has Q6.MDT & Q6.B00-Q6.B05 Aug 26 06:23:02 seems like should be boot at p13, and everything >= 14 is for user entertainment. >= 13 can be deleted,resized whatever without problems Aug 26 06:23:13 you have a print out of that stuff? Aug 26 06:23:40 i think 12 is somekind of NVRAM Aug 26 06:24:10 I was pretty sure 8 was boot... Aug 26 06:24:11 just "mkdir files" and "sudo mount -o loop 12.img files" Aug 26 06:24:19 trsohmers: what fs is 8? Aug 26 06:25:32 the stuff mounted at /boot is definitely 12 Aug 26 06:25:46 12 is / Aug 26 06:25:50 OMG BOOTING ANDROID Aug 26 06:25:56 I HAVE LOGO Aug 26 06:26:05 AND IN Aug 26 06:26:40 THE CRAPTAIN IS IN THE HOUSE Aug 26 06:26:43 PICS SOON Aug 26 06:26:53 yeah sorry got a little off by one there. 13 is boot. 12 is nvram, 14 is everything else Aug 26 06:26:55 What kernel did you use? Aug 26 06:26:59 crapple: ROM or image? Aug 26 06:27:09 rom Aug 26 06:27:11 craptain* Aug 26 06:27:19 touch panel no workee Aug 26 06:27:23 im sure if you guys give him a sec Aug 26 06:27:26 he will explain Aug 26 06:27:51 craptain: I have heard from a little birdie that cypress drivers need to be completely re written Aug 26 06:27:52 and congrats craptain Aug 26 06:28:04 first i need to find camera Aug 26 06:28:08 Phone? Aug 26 06:28:15 camera is useless Aug 26 06:28:16 eh Aug 26 06:28:29 could you please explain your process Aug 26 06:28:35 and maybe release source Aug 26 06:29:12 craptain: I may have a touchscreen solution tomorrow Aug 26 06:30:24 http://i.imgur.com/YTxwg.png Aug 26 06:30:37 the real question is why doesn't it work Aug 26 06:31:03 does the firmware live in a bootloader lower than 7? Aug 26 06:31:21 craptain: I heard from my source that the cypress drivers would have to be modified/rewritten Aug 26 06:31:41 you know its real because its so shitty Aug 26 06:31:42 why? does the panel work on the androids that leaked? Aug 26 06:31:45 I guess it's about time I show up in here... Aug 26 06:31:52 craptain: Yea they do Aug 26 06:31:54 craptain congrats Aug 26 06:32:04 Is this based off the leaked build or something else, craptain? Aug 26 06:32:17 this looks like the leaked build Aug 26 06:32:17 leaked build Aug 26 06:32:19 seems like its off a device w/ a different resolution Aug 26 06:32:21 remote control via adb? Aug 26 06:32:24 adb works Aug 26 06:32:33 craptain: could you get a logcat? Aug 26 06:32:41 well < honeycomb don't support tablets Aug 26 06:32:41 hmmm Aug 26 06:32:42 nevermind Aug 26 06:32:45 i can Aug 26 06:32:58 lolcat Aug 26 06:33:00 ? Aug 26 06:33:04 I was going to try to press buttons with logcat Aug 26 06:33:12 actually lolcat works… so does 'adb hell' Aug 26 06:33:19 do adb hell instead of adb shell Aug 26 06:33:26 The Android developers are quite the commedians. Aug 26 06:33:33 * aDr|aN- confirms Aug 26 06:33:38 lolcat works. Aug 26 06:33:53 did u compile kernel? or is this kernel from leaked build? Aug 26 06:34:20 http://pastebin.com/qFnMkXyZ < logcat Aug 26 06:34:30 craptain: Mucho gracias Aug 26 06:34:35 leaked, compiled kernel doesn't have working adb Aug 26 06:34:53 craptain: Did you do anything when doing the logcat? Aug 26 06:35:02 no Aug 26 06:35:19 but it probably has the couple times i pushed buttons and plugged usb Aug 26 06:35:37 yea I see that Aug 26 06:35:44 craptain Aug 26 06:35:46 Interesting Aug 26 06:35:49 not a different resolution-- that's the compatibilty mode Aug 26 06:36:01 craptain: no response from thescreen? Aug 26 06:36:01 could you please make sure all your permission are correct on your filesystem Aug 26 06:36:15 i used the stock filesystem Aug 26 06:36:19 system.img only Aug 26 06:36:22 yes Aug 26 06:36:25 I believe you can switch off the compatibility mode in the spare parts application Aug 26 06:36:35 yeah you can Aug 26 06:36:36 i dd'ed it, permissions are right Aug 26 06:36:44 k Aug 26 06:37:04 grr, android is so useless without a touchscreen Aug 26 06:37:17 haha Aug 26 06:37:32 Honeycomb would be even worse lol Aug 26 06:37:35 Go figure, eh craptain? :) Aug 26 06:37:50 well, the touchpad doesn't have many buttons either.. so I guess it doesnt really matter Aug 26 06:38:05 craptain is the accelerometer actually working? Aug 26 06:38:10 Does center work on the Android you've got running there, craptain? Aug 26 06:38:17 no clue Aug 26 06:38:20 as touch doesn't work Aug 26 06:38:26 what happens when you rotate it tho Aug 26 06:38:29 how about holding down the center button? Aug 26 06:38:32 i can't get passed slide to unlock Aug 26 06:38:35 there was no sensor Aug 26 06:38:36 ouch Aug 26 06:38:39 use the force Aug 26 06:38:46 nothing from center button Aug 26 06:38:47 no Aug 26 06:38:52 Use the Source, luke! Aug 26 06:38:53 E/Sensors-HP( 153): Couldn't open /dev/psensor (No such file or directory) Aug 26 06:38:53 E/Sensors-HP( 153): enable_disable_proximity_sensor Couldn't open /dev/psensor (No such file or directory) Aug 26 06:39:09 yea, thats not touch Aug 26 06:39:39 W/WindowManager( 153): No focus window, dropping: KeyEvent{action=0 code=4 repeat=0 meta=0 scancode=158 mFlags=8} Aug 26 06:40:07 no it's not Aug 26 06:40:27 the axis of your screen is flipped Aug 26 06:40:29 craptain: you do have notes (in your head or otherwise) for how you got this far, right? Aug 26 06:40:34 might explain touchpad issues Aug 26 06:40:56 nah, i just troll Aug 26 06:41:03 lol Aug 26 06:41:03 Of course, of course/ Aug 26 06:41:03 deleted all notes Aug 26 06:41:08 heh Aug 26 06:41:19 http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ <----------unlock and get buttons via pc Aug 26 06:41:31 not solution Aug 26 06:41:40 i want to bring to work tomorrow and brag to coworkers Aug 26 06:41:45 need working touch Aug 26 06:42:09 jonpry: Wow, neat, but unfortunately, you need adb for that Aug 26 06:42:18 craptain: I may have something tomorrow Aug 26 06:42:19 i have adb Aug 26 06:42:22 You do? Aug 26 06:42:24 Oh Aug 26 06:42:30 roadkill: He is using the leaked kernel Aug 26 06:42:34 not the custom one Aug 26 06:42:58 craptain, read your pm Aug 26 06:43:23 is touch working if you cat the event device? Aug 26 06:43:28 typing once directions to catch up, posted once here and repeat the name craptain with them Aug 26 06:43:38 cause i'm lazy Aug 26 06:43:41 and mad high Aug 26 06:43:41 trsohmers: Fair enough. Huh. Aug 26 06:43:45 where's the custom one? I created my own patched one and it doesn't seem to work. not sure if i patched some framebuffer code correct Aug 26 06:43:51 lol Aug 26 06:43:54 boot the android bootloader from 7.img using chainboot Aug 26 06:43:55 my kind of nigga Aug 26 06:43:59 i have seen really cool android bugs where by inputmanager throws away all the events while the device is locked Aug 26 06:44:01 high assfuck working on shit Aug 26 06:44:03 craptain when it was booting did you see the android bootanim? Aug 26 06:44:08 and if so, how was it oriented? Aug 26 06:44:14 you live in florida craptain Aug 26 06:44:16 ? Aug 26 06:44:20 dd the system img to your mmcblk 14 Aug 26 06:44:32 edit ramdisk to mount 14 Aug 26 06:44:35 as system Aug 26 06:44:55 with android bootloader, you can fastboot kernel and custom ramdisk Aug 26 06:45:00 ^ Aug 26 06:45:07 be happy about your touchless android Aug 26 06:45:14 lol Aug 26 06:45:17 haha Aug 26 06:45:31 yay for drivers Aug 26 06:45:32 -.- Aug 26 06:45:39 then optionally, wish you had webos back Aug 26 06:45:47 craptain: is it really flipped left to right like that? Aug 26 06:45:56 E/EventHub( 153): could not get driver version for /dev/input/mouse0, Not a typewriter Aug 26 06:45:57 ? Aug 26 06:45:57 nah, i used photobooth Aug 26 06:45:59 Haha Aug 26 06:46:08 lol Aug 26 06:46:09 the mouse is not a typewriter Aug 26 06:46:10 cuz the touchscreen could be working. Aug 26 06:46:11 if I open the touchpad and it has android on it Aug 26 06:46:14 Ill die of laughter Aug 26 06:46:20 was the android bootanim flipped like that? Aug 26 06:46:30 nothing was flipped Aug 26 06:46:32 What?!? A mouse isn't a typewriter?!? Aug 26 06:46:37 yes i saw android bootanim Aug 26 06:46:49 I/SystemServer( 153): HID Service Aug 26 06:46:52 and i was happy Aug 26 06:47:03 Hmm Aug 26 06:47:07 so it's not actually flipped okay Aug 26 06:47:09 process 153 is touchscreen? Aug 26 06:47:30 lolwut Aug 26 06:47:58 I don't know… maybe my mouse it means touchscreen? Aug 26 06:48:07 it refers to it as a HID server Aug 26 06:48:09 service* Aug 26 06:48:20 HID… Human Interface Device... Aug 26 06:48:42 Nevermind Aug 26 06:48:53 thats probably usb Aug 26 06:49:56 so, we know the others have touchscreen Aug 26 06:50:01 and mine doesn't Aug 26 06:50:17 touchscreen is SO overrated anyways Aug 26 06:50:18 so you only flashed boot and system? Aug 26 06:50:22 Framework: +1 Aug 26 06:50:23 i start at bootloader 7 and copied only system Aug 26 06:50:25 craptain, where are those key events coming from? Aug 26 06:50:27 i didn't flash boot Aug 26 06:50:36 probably the keys Aug 26 06:50:52 craptain: Could you throw together what you did, and what you have identified as what? Aug 26 06:50:59 i typed it Aug 26 06:50:59 I am still going through the logcat now Aug 26 06:51:04 pastebin? Aug 26 06:51:09 oh, the logcat Aug 26 06:51:11 sec Aug 26 06:51:12 i don't see a evdev device for the ts under webos Aug 26 06:51:35 if anyone Aug 26 06:51:37 IREPEAT Aug 26 06:51:47 keys run pokeWakeLock Aug 26 06:51:50 anyone uses anything craptain is posting Aug 26 06:51:52 you will Aug 26 06:51:54 craptain: I have the logcat Aug 26 06:51:55 give him all the credit Aug 26 06:51:58 ALL THE CREDIT Aug 26 06:52:02 SamCripp: Of course Aug 26 06:52:02 wake up does some shit ending w a screen on intent Aug 26 06:52:12 rgr craptain Aug 26 06:52:51 is there a /data mounted? Aug 26 06:52:58 I think I can get that touchscreen working Aug 26 06:52:58 nah Aug 26 06:53:01 but it's rw Aug 26 06:53:18 what's rw? Aug 26 06:53:21 my coworkers will be only impressed if i have touchscreen Aug 26 06:53:23 read write Aug 26 06:53:26 no no I know that Aug 26 06:53:32 I mean what mount point is readwrite? Aug 26 06:53:34 the root Aug 26 06:53:38 did anyone notice if one of the imags was a /pds Aug 26 06:53:39 so you can make a /data ? Aug 26 06:53:46 i did, empty dir Aug 26 06:53:49 SamCripp: What? Aug 26 06:53:51 nothign got written? Aug 26 06:53:55 that's not normal Aug 26 06:54:08 idk, maybe something did Aug 26 06:54:10 hold all information about touchscreen Aug 26 06:54:14 no actually it wouldn't have Aug 26 06:54:19 like the calibration info Aug 26 06:54:24 and its usually its own partition Aug 26 06:54:28 because the init.rc is gonna try to mount a partition that doesnt' exist Aug 26 06:54:28 oh, tons of shit in data Aug 26 06:54:34 oh okay good Aug 26 06:54:40 hmm, calibration makes sense Aug 26 06:54:50 yea that does Aug 26 06:54:55 i fixed init.rc Aug 26 06:54:56 its on nearly all phones Aug 26 06:55:00 holds also imei Aug 26 06:55:14 if you manually made a /data that was rw then init.rc would fail and you'd be fine I think Aug 26 06:55:21 craptain cool reboot Aug 26 06:55:40 send us a new logcat Aug 26 06:55:41 my theory Aug 26 06:55:48 you are missing the calibration Aug 26 06:55:49 i mean it was already fixed Aug 26 06:55:59 craptain: how about cache Aug 26 06:56:05 /cache Aug 26 06:56:10 hmm, calib is prob on persist Aug 26 06:56:14 could you please pastebin the init.rc Aug 26 06:56:47 http://pastie.org/2432102 Aug 26 06:56:55 craptain: while you're pasting stuff, how about dmesg? Aug 26 06:56:57 err, that's stock Aug 26 06:57:12 i rebooted, no more dmesg Aug 26 06:57:29 on /persist mostlikely Aug 26 06:57:30 check /proc/last_kmsg Aug 26 06:57:33 FYI folks, if you did the Hulu fix, prepare for severe performance issues. It's about 5-10fps for me on Hulu. Aug 26 06:57:35 http://pastie.org/2432104 << thats mine Aug 26 06:57:52 ooh pretty Aug 26 06:58:16 so, the bootloader inits the touchscreen it seems Aug 26 06:58:30 you're using your original bootloader I assume Aug 26 06:58:38 http://imgur.com/D8Y5I Aug 26 06:58:58 "This is Cypress touch:" Aug 26 06:59:16 Thanks craptain for that Aug 26 06:59:17 and F/W version is N/A Aug 26 06:59:19 did you scan that? Aug 26 06:59:19 lol Aug 26 06:59:22 i did Aug 26 06:59:29 lol Aug 26 06:59:30 yah cypress is the driver - same as the nook Aug 26 06:59:37 nigga is high leave him alone Aug 26 06:59:39 worked better then i thought Aug 26 06:59:44 haha Aug 26 07:00:00 so no dmesg huh? Aug 26 07:00:07 eh, i'd have to boot is Aug 26 07:00:09 it Aug 26 07:00:17 it'll tell ya a lot :) Aug 26 07:00:24 fattire_: So are you saying that we can re use the nook drivers? Aug 26 07:00:37 https://github.com/martinezjavier/nook_color Aug 26 07:00:50 trsohmers: I think it's the same driver... but the nook doesn't have 2.6.35 for one thing... Aug 26 07:00:53 2.6.32... Aug 26 07:00:59 hmm Aug 26 07:01:43 http://pastie.org/2432115 Aug 26 07:01:44 dmesg Aug 26 07:01:48 i can build kernels Aug 26 07:01:49 gracias Aug 26 07:01:54 but adb doesn't work Aug 26 07:02:20 do i need to explain why using nook drivers is incorrect Aug 26 07:02:23 <3>[ 1.964508] maXTouch 5-004c: Failure accessing maXTouch device Aug 26 07:02:24 or are we all on the same page Aug 26 07:02:33 the driver is fine Aug 26 07:02:45 the kernel is expecting the bootloader to upload the touch firmware Aug 26 07:02:51 which it isn't doing Aug 26 07:03:08 craptain, how friendly is the bootloader? Aug 26 07:03:14 mean Aug 26 07:03:25 its fastboot Aug 26 07:03:32 though i can binary patch is Aug 26 07:03:33 *it Aug 26 07:03:37 opening in ida now Aug 26 07:03:56 sorry Aug 26 07:04:11 i just read specs again and realize i rather put uibuntu on it than android Aug 26 07:04:20 makes more sense Aug 26 07:04:21 lol Aug 26 07:04:23 sorry Aug 26 07:04:25 heh Aug 26 07:04:26 got space out Aug 26 07:04:35 ubuntu is shitty mobile os Aug 26 07:04:39 it is Aug 26 07:04:40 cannot make phone calls Aug 26 07:04:45 im been silly Aug 26 07:04:54 ubuntu with the ubuntu-netbook Ui ontop of it is pretty good for phones/tablets Aug 26 07:04:58 I have it on my Xoom Aug 26 07:05:01 i expect touchpad to make phone calls Aug 26 07:05:03 qup_i2c isn't happy Aug 26 07:05:05 after i android Aug 26 07:05:12 google voice ftw Aug 26 07:05:18 hi Aug 26 07:05:22 i want google voice on kindle Aug 26 07:05:27 w free data Aug 26 07:05:30 k guys im going to sleep Aug 26 07:05:38 And then you can look like a tool walking down the street with your tablet up to your face! Aug 26 07:05:38 night Aug 26 07:05:42 G'night Aug 26 07:05:52 duh duhd udduh....it's kindlephone!!! Aug 26 07:05:52 how long you staying up craptain ? Aug 26 07:05:58 idk Aug 26 07:05:59 ima fucking kick crapple Aug 26 07:06:04 talk or get kick Aug 26 07:06:08 trsohmers how do you have ubuntu on the Xoom? Aug 26 07:06:15 edude03: Native boot Aug 26 07:06:17 is new jersey shore episode out tonight? Aug 26 07:06:18 and chroot Aug 26 07:06:18 W/ netbook UI of all things Aug 26 07:06:25 native boot? Aug 26 07:06:26 how? Aug 26 07:06:28 edude03: apt-get install ubuntu-netbook Aug 26 07:06:35 :| Aug 26 07:06:46 How long has this existed without me knowing :| Aug 26 07:06:54 acfrazier: NVIDIA release their linux4tegra stuff… google it, lol Aug 26 07:07:04 edude03: I helped work on it…about 3 months ago? Aug 26 07:07:11 May Aug 26 07:07:12 craptain, yes it was new. its on my dvr. ill let you slingbox or tomorrow. haha Aug 26 07:07:14 end of may Aug 26 07:07:16 trsohmers, its either chroot Aug 26 07:07:19 or native boot Aug 26 07:07:25 It's native boot Aug 26 07:07:26 if you boot natively Aug 26 07:07:27 I googled it and your site was the first result trsohmers :P Aug 26 07:07:29 then why chroot Aug 26 07:07:32 makes no sense Aug 26 07:07:33 *slingbox it Aug 26 07:07:36 SamCripp: I had chroot first Aug 26 07:07:58 omg new jersey shore Aug 26 07:08:02 torrenting now Aug 26 07:08:13 roadkill, you staying up for a while longer? Aug 26 07:08:14 The chroot stuff is really gimmiky, but it's kind of cool to show off Aug 26 07:08:31 SamCripp: I was hoping to not have to. Aug 26 07:08:33 trsohmers, whick package did you use? Aug 26 07:08:43 Shall we +m for overnight? Aug 26 07:08:46 acfrazier: It's on Rootzwiki if that helps? Aug 26 07:08:48 so anyway Aug 26 07:08:52 <3>[ 1.815338] ttsp_read_block_data: error -1376456 Aug 26 07:08:52 <3>[ 1.815368] cyttsp_core_init: ttsp_read_block_data failed! Aug 26 07:08:52 <4>[ 1.815399] cyttsp-i2c: probe of 5-0067 failed with error -12 Aug 26 07:08:52 <6>[ 1.815521] cyttsp_i2c_init: Cypress TrueTouch(R) Standard Product I2C Touchscreen Driver (Built Mar 25 2011 @ 06:24:07) returned 0 Aug 26 07:09:06 roadkill why overnight, its 9am here ;) Aug 26 07:09:16 sirana: UK? Aug 26 07:09:16 heh Aug 26 07:09:23 roadkill, im thinking about it Aug 26 07:09:25 Fun mode is +z Aug 26 07:09:26 9am? france.. Aug 26 07:09:40 trsohmera: germany Aug 26 07:09:41 lol Aug 26 07:09:47 Haha Aug 26 07:09:49 both wrong Aug 26 07:09:50 lol Aug 26 07:09:57 uk is 8am Aug 26 07:09:58 I have to wake up early to watch for my package Aug 26 07:10:11 i have to wake up early to go sell my car Aug 26 07:10:21 Guess what… I don'thave to get up early Aug 26 07:10:24 I have to wake up early to work the corner Aug 26 07:10:26 so i can get on an airplane Aug 26 07:10:29 well, to prepare for the hurricane I guess Aug 26 07:10:42 i had to wake up early to go to work lol Aug 26 07:10:43 trsohmers, isnt it pass your bed time? Aug 26 07:10:46 is like 3am Aug 26 07:11:32 SamCripp: I was going to go to bed 2 hours ago, but craptain kept me up Aug 26 07:11:40 Thanks :) Aug 26 07:11:49 np Aug 26 07:11:56 dont want you to have nughtmares Aug 26 07:12:05 how many people get the dump booted now? Aug 26 07:12:12 SamCripp: what? Aug 26 07:12:13 [ 3.856013] usbcore: registered new interface driver ums-cypress Aug 26 07:12:13 1 Aug 26 07:12:18 1. heh. Aug 26 07:12:25 Oh craptain, my craptain. Aug 26 07:12:27 synace: Where's that? Aug 26 07:12:33 synace, 1 did, and he is high as fuck Aug 26 07:12:35 webos dmesg Aug 26 07:12:42 There is only one true craptain… and that is Kirk! Aug 26 07:12:47 oh, i understand now Aug 26 07:12:49 whats does that have to say for the rest of you Aug 26 07:12:56 SamCripp: :| Aug 26 07:13:17 trsohmers: nvm that's a usb storage driver Aug 26 07:13:24 kinda of fuckig pittyful, all dy drama Aug 26 07:13:30 synace: you sure? Aug 26 07:13:30 let this shit serve you as a lesson Aug 26 07:13:36 i love drama Aug 26 07:13:37 the stone guy Aug 26 07:13:39 got it working Aug 26 07:13:42 thats why i love jersey shore Aug 26 07:13:47 yeah, it's in a pile of other storage drivers Aug 26 07:13:58 is the new season on Aug 26 07:13:59 ? Aug 26 07:14:07 they are in italy Aug 26 07:14:29 thats Aug 26 07:14:31 weird Aug 26 07:14:36 btw guys Aug 26 07:14:40 i would like to say Aug 26 07:14:53 the stone guy got it working, but he also scanned his tp Aug 26 07:14:54 lol Aug 26 07:15:04 sorry ewach time i see the pic it makes me LMAO Aug 26 07:15:05 Someone better burn Craptain's Touchpad. Put it out of its misery of spending the rest of its life playing Jersey Shore episodes... Aug 26 07:15:09 scanner writes to nfs share Aug 26 07:15:16 very easy Aug 26 07:15:28 can not find usb cable for phone Aug 26 07:15:28 still funny Aug 26 07:16:01 lul Aug 26 07:16:09 please everyone awake Aug 26 07:16:16 that will be awake for the rest of the night Aug 26 07:16:23 say , aye Aug 26 07:16:41 hi SamCripp Aug 26 07:16:42 so, event0 is power button, 1 is volume rocker and 2 is headphone jack button.. where's touch panel events on webos? Aug 26 07:16:44 aye Aug 26 07:16:54 aye Aug 26 07:16:56 hi rhcp Aug 26 07:17:04 wha ta day just to get a TP Aug 26 07:17:09 =) Aug 26 07:17:10 worth it Aug 26 07:17:32 i dono how they wanted to liq them Aug 26 07:17:38 its better then a ipad Aug 26 07:17:40 yup here our friendly neighborhood craptain got it booting Aug 26 07:18:04 oky Aug 26 07:18:09 so im going to sleep Aug 26 07:18:14 SamCripp: That seems to be it for the active ones. Aug 26 07:18:15 anyone thats OP Aug 26 07:18:28 please Aug 26 07:18:33 at any sing of drama Aug 26 07:18:35 from anyone Aug 26 07:18:41 mute the shit out of this channel Aug 26 07:18:46 and make them shut the fuck up Aug 26 07:18:56 unless they have skills Aug 26 07:18:56 there shall be peace Aug 26 07:19:03 there shall be peace Aug 26 07:19:30 anyays Aug 26 07:19:33 peace yall Aug 26 07:19:35 good night Aug 26 07:19:43 and again craptain awesome job Aug 26 07:19:45 samcripp nigjt Aug 26 07:20:25 touch panel isn't on /proc/bus/input/devices Aug 26 07:24:02 Well Aug 26 07:24:05 I'm going to sleep Aug 26 07:24:13 found download function Aug 26 07:24:21 for tp firmware in bootloader Aug 26 07:24:33 cool Aug 26 07:24:44 that's in 7? Aug 26 07:24:52 yea Aug 26 07:24:53 synace: I believe he said 7 was boot Aug 26 07:24:57 oh Aug 26 07:25:33 craptain: sent you pm Aug 26 07:25:36 good to know the dd images were useful. I'm impressed at the amount of progress made and it's only been about 16 hours. Aug 26 07:25:49 agree roadkill Aug 26 07:26:28 That and I'm just thrilled the wanker on eBay couldn't keep us from getting a dump because he's selling his pad. Aug 26 07:26:37 alright well just for shits and giggles I'm going to try and get it to run on my touchpad as well Aug 26 07:26:53 did his touchpad sell, or is the listing still going? Aug 26 07:27:03 I hope.it got pulled Aug 26 07:27:50 nope.. it's over a grand now though Aug 26 07:27:58 useless now that a dump is available. Aug 26 07:28:25 acfrazier: Yeah. that was the main goal of getting it all out today Aug 26 07:28:25 acfrazier: It still has some value Aug 26 07:28:36 Some people want a factory unit still though Aug 26 07:28:39 I am a technology collector Aug 26 07:28:52 that idiot left his location on the photo and later took it off Aug 26 07:28:53 yeah, but is it worth over a grand to you? doubtful Aug 26 07:28:58 I'm still curious if the factory units have the 3G Radio in them. Aug 26 07:29:04 craptain: what are you using to work on 7.img? i see the cypress stuff in there that you're talking about Aug 26 07:29:07 It being a prototype and very few have that… I wouldn't pay a grand, but I would pay a couple hundred bucks Aug 26 07:29:21 roadkill: The teardowns I saw said no Aug 26 07:29:26 oy Aug 26 07:29:29 must go to sleep Aug 26 07:29:29 ida? Aug 26 07:29:35 trsomhers||sleep: Good. Then there's no real value aside from Android being on the unit. Aug 26 07:29:48 ^ Aug 26 07:29:56 There's actual use value, and then there is collectible value Aug 26 07:30:11 ida Aug 26 07:30:12 Well, yeah, as irrational as it is, there's always nostalgia and collecting. Aug 26 07:30:16 k Aug 26 07:30:18 People pay hundreds of dollars for autographs, even though most are just some ink on paper worth next to nothing Aug 26 07:30:18 it's stock aside from having the android software. I could load mine with it and claim it to be factory Aug 26 07:30:31 but I'm not an ass so I won't do that. Aug 26 07:30:34 acfrazier: Hence my word choice of 'irrational' Aug 26 07:30:36 heh Aug 26 07:31:06 roadkill: irrational maybe, but it's a multi billion dollar industry. Aug 26 07:31:21 * roadkill feels more depressed now Aug 26 07:31:24 Thanks. Aug 26 07:31:27 :| Aug 26 07:31:36 so much money in scamming people. Aug 26 07:31:43 yeah.. a shame Aug 26 07:31:47 define scamming? Aug 26 07:31:49 prob is once everyone has android, there will be no proof his was factory android Aug 26 07:32:11 kidmet: Yea, pretty much, haha Aug 26 07:32:17 He should have put his serial number out there Aug 26 07:32:20 ida runs in wine ;) Aug 26 07:32:28 yes it does Aug 26 07:32:30 thats how i use it Aug 26 07:32:32 lol Aug 26 07:32:35 ida 6.1 Aug 26 07:33:19 Okay folks, if you're like me and wanted Hulu working again, WebOSInternals posted a fix for the Hulu lockout. It works, but it carries a performance hit on Hulu only. Don't have this issue elsewhere with the changes. Using the Uberkernel isn't enough to curb the framerate drops. Can get as bad a 5-10fps for some simple, live action only streams. Aug 26 07:34:09 They locked out Hulu? Aug 26 07:34:10 lol Aug 26 07:35:14 hi roadkill Aug 26 07:37:41 k Aug 26 07:37:44 final verdidt Aug 26 07:37:49 *verdict Aug 26 07:37:59 touch firmware lives on touch chip Aug 26 07:38:13 android requires different touch firmware from webos Aug 26 07:38:23 fastboot can update it Aug 26 07:38:30 but i don't have it Aug 26 07:39:03 is it just because regular boot is failing & fastboot is only avail atm? Aug 26 07:39:16 so two choices, rebuild kernel with new touch driver, or get android touch firmware Aug 26 07:39:19 no Aug 26 07:39:35 it's because the little chip shit has shitty firmware Aug 26 07:39:48 i assumed that fastboot was excluding it on purpose Aug 26 07:40:09 so two choices, rebuild kernel with new touch driver, or get android touch firmware Aug 26 07:40:27 Which kernel are you using Aug 26 07:40:30 the one from the dump? Aug 26 07:40:34 yea Aug 26 07:40:35 looks like trsomhers||sleep needs to ask for the firmware img Aug 26 07:40:58 http://www.cypress.com/?rID=51405 <-- this chip Aug 26 07:41:12 someone should just git clone qualcomm's internal archived dev project Aug 26 07:41:29 that's cheating Aug 26 07:41:34 this dump is bad enough Aug 26 07:41:54 and really shouldn't be distributed Aug 26 07:42:00 That datasheet sucks. Aug 26 07:42:05 Not even one pretty picture. Aug 26 07:42:07 i know Aug 26 07:42:11 its "errata" Aug 26 07:42:38 oh Aug 26 07:42:47 http://www.cypress.com/?rID=39551 <-- woah Aug 26 07:42:56 firmware sdk Aug 26 07:43:00 Woah Aug 26 07:43:01 wtf Aug 26 07:43:08 good cypress Aug 26 07:44:37 craptain: http://www.cypress.com/?id=4&rID=45605 Aug 26 07:44:56 is it via usb? Aug 26 07:46:39 the drivers are there Aug 26 07:46:42 firmware is wrong Aug 26 07:46:52 demand qualcomm release kernel source :P Aug 26 07:46:54 ah, yes, my barrrd Aug 26 07:47:08 xD Aug 26 07:49:41 any way to view current firmware info on webos? Aug 26 07:50:52 thx Pulser Aug 26 07:51:25 i don't think so Aug 26 07:53:45 o lol, kernel doesn't support ext4 Aug 26 07:53:45 if we had spares of this damn thing Aug 26 07:53:51 id jtag it Aug 26 07:53:55 rhcp Aug 26 07:53:57 craptain: yes Aug 26 07:53:59 what about the extras Aug 26 07:53:59 i know Aug 26 07:54:13 only ext3 Aug 26 07:54:31 shit i wish i could get. i think drew and I killed it Aug 26 07:54:37 by ordering via the exploit at HP Aug 26 07:54:38 lol Aug 26 07:55:00 lul Aug 26 07:55:05 i hope you get another one Aug 26 07:55:05 re Aug 26 07:55:08 we took down SMB for erm Aug 26 07:55:11 2 weeks? Aug 26 07:55:23 i wonder how much HP lost Aug 26 07:55:24 lol Aug 26 07:55:29 also, anyone have ideas about adb not working Aug 26 07:55:35 kernel Aug 26 07:55:37 craptain: kernel Aug 26 07:55:41 heh he beat me Aug 26 07:55:51 Aug 25, 2011 5:31 AM Aug 26 07:55:51 Departed FedEx location Aug 26 07:55:51 OLIVE BRANCH, MS Aug 26 07:55:57 Its about 24 hours soon -_- Aug 26 07:56:31 i mean, i know it's kernel :P Aug 26 07:56:39 the fs part doesn't build Aug 26 07:56:44 in the gadget driver Aug 26 07:56:53 the rest builds but doesn't work Aug 26 07:57:01 i patched bootie to give me a console Aug 26 07:57:23 btw i gotta say, this is the awesomest device for hacking on Aug 26 07:57:24 no security Aug 26 07:57:31 lol chainboot Aug 26 07:59:15 im sure we can do anything on it. Aug 26 07:59:43 if it has real bootrom it's perfect Aug 26 08:04:14 chainboot indeed Aug 26 08:10:12 gnah, can't wait until there is a possibility to flash this damned dump :D Aug 26 08:10:29 hi guys Aug 26 08:10:36 how's android porting running?^^ Aug 26 08:11:33 Flemmard: It was all a big hoax. Aug 26 08:11:42 what?^^ Aug 26 08:11:47 the 'dump' ? Aug 26 08:11:48 Only Pokenmon Red can run on the tablet. Aug 26 08:11:51 oh :) Aug 26 08:11:55 heh Aug 26 08:11:55 lol Aug 26 08:12:05 i hope it runs better than my tries, i just bricked one xD Aug 26 08:12:12 omg don't brick Aug 26 08:12:16 do it in ram Aug 26 08:12:19 Craptain got a basic Android booting going, but nothing worked. No touchscreen, etc. Aug 26 08:12:21 while watching jersey shore Aug 26 08:12:29 okay Aug 26 08:12:46 have u looked at htc's kernel sources/drivers etc? as they mostly uses qualcomm chipsets :) Aug 26 08:12:51 (like for example for sensation) Aug 26 08:12:51 That's as far as it's gotten... but what's the whole thing based on? Chainboot? Really? That's it? Aug 26 08:13:08 yeah but it's a good start Aug 26 08:13:38 Flemmard: sensation we will need to backport Aug 26 08:13:45 that kernel is useless Aug 26 08:13:56 okay Aug 26 08:13:57 it will never compile with out board file Aug 26 08:14:03 yes sure Aug 26 08:14:08 WAY too much htc shit Aug 26 08:14:12 haha yes Aug 26 08:14:12 we tried :) Aug 26 08:14:16 htc does a lot of shit :) Aug 26 08:14:52 even in their apks >< Aug 26 08:15:04 too bad the shit for sensation isnt out Aug 26 08:15:16 'the shit'? Aug 26 08:15:20 had this stock-touchpad-android the android market? Aug 26 08:16:04 heard a rumor that he ebay'd it Aug 26 08:16:38 he, being the buyer who lucked upon that android tablet Aug 26 08:16:48 There's more than one person with it, wirehead. Aug 26 08:16:53 We got a dump from someone else. Aug 26 08:17:01 oh, good to hear Aug 26 08:17:02 but why froyo .. Aug 26 08:17:06 ebayer guy never followed through. Aug 26 08:17:15 roadkill, thanks Aug 26 08:17:23 froyo prolly cause hp was gonna go w/ android on this until they bought palm Aug 26 08:17:37 2.2.1 was prob easy for them to port Aug 26 08:17:40 due to drivers Aug 26 08:17:44 yea probably Aug 26 08:17:47 2.3 is way diff Aug 26 08:18:11 they didnt even get adb working Aug 26 08:18:13 so Aug 26 08:18:24 yes .. Aug 26 08:18:25 what is adb? Aug 26 08:18:32 android debugger Aug 26 08:18:36 like novacom Aug 26 08:18:37 but for android Aug 26 08:18:39 ok Aug 26 08:18:42 rhcp: craptain had adb going in this first boot Aug 26 08:18:42 android debug bridge i think Aug 26 08:18:49 yeah bridge yes ^^ Aug 26 08:18:54 synace: ? Aug 26 08:18:54 sirana: Pretty much the USB based monkey wrench for all of android. Aug 26 08:18:59 he said before it didnt? Aug 26 08:19:47 right.. first boot had it Aug 26 08:19:52 * AHCompy stares attentively at screen Aug 26 08:19:57 after fixing something else, lost adb Aug 26 08:20:35 you had adb in custom kernel? Aug 26 08:20:43 i need that now Aug 26 08:20:45 you said you had adb Aug 26 08:21:11 in dumped kernel Aug 26 08:21:27 test Aug 26 08:21:32 retest :P Aug 26 08:21:32 exactree Aug 26 08:21:33 test ok Aug 26 08:21:41 thanks Flemmard Aug 26 08:21:46 god I wanna learn this. lol I WISH I knew even the slightest thing to help... damn good job dudes. I look forward to craptain getting all his probs worked-out. :-) Aug 26 08:21:46 my ZNC broke again Aug 26 08:22:21 i want to unbrick my touchpad but i think it's going to guarantee XD Aug 26 08:23:01 roadkill: the dump provider, can they provide the firmware possibly? Aug 26 08:23:34 firmware ? Aug 26 08:23:45 that's on mmcblk0p1 ? Aug 26 08:26:14 synace: the firmware, isnt it in 1.img ? (mount as vfat), in images Aug 26 08:29:35 idk what firmware that is Aug 26 08:30:21 if it's firmware waited in /vendor/ thing on android, that's it Aug 26 08:31:30 Flemmard, what did you do to brick? Aug 26 08:31:36 I am guessing you overwrote or changed bootie? Aug 26 08:31:48 Pulser: i added a partition (after lvm one) in topaz.xml Aug 26 08:31:53 okay Aug 26 08:32:00 but i dont really understand Aug 26 08:32:04 because i havent changed partition order Aug 26 08:32:07 well don't get me wrong Aug 26 08:32:09 I'm no webos dev Aug 26 08:32:10 :P Aug 26 08:32:19 I need to get to grips with this hardware Aug 26 08:32:28 do we know if this SoC has a "recovery" means via USB boot? Aug 26 08:32:35 well Aug 26 08:32:36 I'm not familiar with this qualcomm chip Aug 26 08:32:44 i dont really know Aug 26 08:32:52 now when i plug it in, i have a strange hardware recignized Aug 26 08:32:55 but can't do anything with it Aug 26 08:32:58 right Aug 26 08:33:02 what is the device ID? Aug 26 08:33:08 wait i find you that Aug 26 08:33:16 it's the same that when you brick a Desire, DesireZ, etc Aug 26 08:33:35 "QHSUSB_DLOAD " thing Aug 26 08:33:49 recignez ad qualcomm dloader 9008 Aug 26 08:33:56 ok Aug 26 08:34:05 I don't know about the desire/z I'm afraid :( Aug 26 08:34:10 Hero and Samsung devices here Aug 26 08:34:17 yeah .. Aug 26 08:34:39 we're more focused on rom that on *hardware* Aug 26 08:34:51 but it seems this hardware linked to wwan chip Aug 26 08:35:27 but it's quite annoying ^^ Aug 26 08:35:58 Pulser: u're from villainrom thats it? Aug 26 08:37:01 anyone cross-referencing with: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/ ?? Aug 26 08:38:00 i fixed the kernel build issue by adding headers Aug 26 08:38:08 but still no adb Aug 26 08:38:22 whats the other kernel people are working with? Aug 26 08:38:31 besides the hp one Aug 26 08:38:43 i found a compiling touchpad kernel Aug 26 08:38:48 renan- on github afaik Aug 26 08:38:55 i have a compiling kernel, but no adb Aug 26 08:39:01 okay Aug 26 08:39:44 you used an aosp build by yourself ? Aug 26 08:39:52 or some existing one Aug 26 08:39:58 i mean, precompiled Aug 26 08:40:21 wouldn't be smart to use kexec to avoid bricks ? Aug 26 08:40:43 to avoid bricks Aug 26 08:40:46 just don't flash over bootie Aug 26 08:40:53 and don't create new non-lvm partitons XD Aug 26 08:41:00 Flemmard, correct Aug 26 08:41:08 (sorry, wasn't reading this chan for a few mins) Aug 26 08:41:15 Pulser: okay :) enjoyed your Hero roms :P Aug 26 08:41:18 hehe Aug 26 08:41:22 hold on I recognise the name Aug 26 08:41:22 :) Aug 26 08:41:25 yeah Aug 26 08:41:42 * Pulser is gonna go for honeycomb Aug 26 08:41:43 EPIC ftw Aug 26 08:41:55 I don't like the defeatist "oh but there's no sources" that I keep hearing Aug 26 08:41:58 Pulser: you recognise the name? which name ^^ Aug 26 08:42:02 your nick Aug 26 08:42:03 lol Aug 26 08:42:06 I am sure I've seen that Aug 26 08:42:08 there's no sources for sense3 :p Aug 26 08:42:12 Flemmard, EXACTLY Aug 26 08:42:14 wait there is kernel sources right ? Aug 26 08:42:15 I had HC running on my hero Aug 26 08:42:26 that puts paid to any claims of "Omg need sources for honeycomb" Aug 26 08:42:26 Pulser: my name, maybe about virtuous? or m10tools ^^ Aug 26 08:42:34 heck, the advent vega has it Aug 26 08:42:39 any other phones have this cpu? Aug 26 08:42:40 uhm, I am sure I remember you from VR Aug 26 08:42:46 craptain: sensation has Aug 26 08:42:49 craptain, sensation I believe Aug 26 08:42:53 it's msm8660 too Aug 26 08:42:54 I was talking to some of the CM guys Aug 26 08:42:56 it's same chip Aug 26 08:43:00 yes Aug 26 08:43:02 totally the same Aug 26 08:43:02 :) Aug 26 08:43:05 kernel source? Aug 26 08:43:06 hehe Aug 26 08:43:06 and frontcam is the same too Aug 26 08:43:10 indeed Aug 26 08:43:12 craptain, nah won't be the same Aug 26 08:43:15 see, HTC adds loads of "crap" into it Aug 26 08:43:21 yes Aug 26 08:43:21 omg fuck HTC Aug 26 08:43:23 to make it bloated Aug 26 08:43:24 and shit Aug 26 08:43:25 :P Aug 26 08:43:34 you can't run an htc kernel on the device Aug 26 08:43:42 BUT it should be possible to get "A" kernel to compile Aug 26 08:43:50 thats fine, looking for a few files Aug 26 08:43:52 in fact I'm sure people have mentioned doing so Aug 26 08:43:59 err Aug 26 08:44:03 i have a working kernel Aug 26 08:44:06 but no adb Aug 26 08:44:12 want to copy gadget driver Aug 26 08:44:12 craptain: any clue about which android build u use? a own made ? Aug 26 08:44:13 right, it's time for me to mirror the useful webos doctor stuff before it all disappears :P Aug 26 08:44:16 is there not a cyanogenmod kernel that works? Aug 26 08:44:28 cyanogen hasnt dev'd for msm8x60 Aug 26 08:44:30 actually Aug 26 08:44:30 afaik Aug 26 08:45:11 omg i hate htc Aug 26 08:45:16 hehe Aug 26 08:45:19 edit sense Aug 26 08:45:20 looking at this shit Aug 26 08:45:22 GEEZ Aug 26 08:45:23 you'll hate them more :) Aug 26 08:45:27 the HP server is fast Aug 26 08:45:30 can't be worse than samsung Aug 26 08:45:31 it's full of crap Aug 26 08:45:33 just downloaded webos doctor at 40 MB/s Aug 26 08:45:36 megabytes that is :) Aug 26 08:45:36 kn_: it is lol Aug 26 08:45:41 yeah Pulser Aug 26 08:45:46 :* Aug 26 08:45:52 230,132,212 51.0M/s in 4.3s Aug 26 08:45:56 w00t Aug 26 08:46:07 just starting my own personal mirror of anything useful :) Aug 26 08:46:08 hehe Aug 26 08:46:14 hp is doomed Aug 26 08:46:14 yeah Aug 26 08:46:25 just in case it disappeared etc Aug 26 08:46:36 if they are unloading their notebook/pc division Aug 26 08:46:53 *compiling aosp now* Aug 26 08:47:13 what for Flemmard? Aug 26 08:47:14 is there a github or other means of sharing efforts? Aug 26 08:47:18 *see ya in 100 days* Aug 26 08:47:22 synace, just set up your own :P Aug 26 08:47:28 Flemmard, what do you mean, compiling takes time? Aug 26 08:47:30 yes Aug 26 08:47:32 * Pulser strokes his overclocked i7 Aug 26 08:47:37 2600k :D Aug 26 08:47:40 lol Aug 26 08:47:41 Xeon E3-1235 Aug 26 08:47:42 kernels build in less than a minute from make clean Aug 26 08:47:42 im on a laptop Aug 26 08:47:42 suck it Aug 26 08:47:44 i7 too Aug 26 08:47:45 damn Aug 26 08:47:50 CPU: GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 950 @ 3.07GHz Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 5 4% Load MOBO: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Base Board Audio: High Definition Audio Device Aug 26 08:47:50 but on a vm Aug 26 08:47:51 I'm on a laptop right now Aug 26 08:47:52 * kn_ pets Aug 26 08:47:53 so only 4 cpres ^^ Aug 26 08:47:57 but I can use the server =D Aug 26 08:48:04 which is an i7 920 server Aug 26 08:48:06 :) Aug 26 08:48:08 lots of RAM etc Aug 26 08:48:09 :) Aug 26 08:48:11 so I use it from work Aug 26 08:48:12 :) Aug 26 08:48:20 i have 12 GB ram Aug 26 08:48:20 abuse of VR server resources :P Aug 26 08:48:22 thankies Aug 26 08:48:25 lol nice Aug 26 08:48:26 i remember my x11/kde/kernel compilation on an old P2 333 Aug 26 08:48:28 :D Aug 26 08:48:31 do you use a ramdisk for that kn_ ? Aug 26 08:48:34 for the builds Aug 26 08:48:34 24h later .. Aug 26 08:48:40 i have a solid state Aug 26 08:48:48 ahhh k Aug 26 08:49:18 to be honest it's being used as a readyboost device atm for windows Aug 26 08:49:29 i'm in school at the moment Aug 26 08:49:34 windows is needed. Aug 26 08:49:49 workstation + laptop = windows 7 Aug 26 08:49:51 interesting. Aug 26 08:49:59 speccy reports my CPU as an i7, but it's a xeon Aug 26 08:50:12 acfrazier: it does that on macs also Aug 26 08:50:20 well Aug 26 08:50:26 before they added i7 support Aug 26 08:50:37 they stick the name "htc" everywhere Aug 26 08:50:38 OSX is nice on sandybridge Aug 26 08:50:46 hackintoshes reported the processor as xeon Aug 26 08:51:01 i could care less about OSX anymore Aug 26 08:51:11 this is the opposite Aug 26 08:51:18 my CPU /is/ a Xeon, but it says it's an i7 Aug 26 08:51:20 craptain: yeah .. Aug 26 08:51:24 oh Aug 26 08:51:26 lol Aug 26 08:51:38 acfrazier: a lot of the xeon are close to the i7 Aug 26 08:51:46 except for certain features Aug 26 08:51:48 ** Aug 26 08:52:20 hm, I once read Windows 7 would not run on a server processor.. it does evidently, I'm using it Aug 26 08:53:25 :) Aug 26 08:53:28 lol Aug 26 08:53:38 who said that ? Aug 26 08:54:05 microsoft, initially Aug 26 08:54:18 that's because they want $$ Aug 26 08:54:24 well maybe w7 wont use the complete possiblities of cpu Aug 26 08:54:28 or just bullshits Aug 26 08:54:28 lol Aug 26 08:54:42 they changed it though, it now says it won't run on PCs with more than 2 physical processors Aug 26 08:54:53 so a 4 socket board is out Aug 26 08:55:08 erm Aug 26 08:55:15 not even windows server ? Aug 26 08:55:22 he speaks about w7 :) Aug 26 08:55:31 i would just use windows server Aug 26 08:55:33 so that M$ forces you to buy a 'server' edition Aug 26 08:55:34 yes Aug 26 08:55:53 you can enable it to act like a workstation, it's just more of a pain Aug 26 08:56:01 does the nt switch still work? Aug 26 08:56:07 that trick ? Aug 26 08:56:24 think they run on different kernels now Aug 26 08:56:32 like server 2003 did from XP Aug 26 08:56:58 microsoft is so confused Aug 26 08:57:12 have you seen the new windows 8 ui Aug 26 08:57:13 lol Aug 26 08:57:16 yes. Aug 26 08:57:25 it would be horrible on anything without a touchscreen Aug 26 08:57:37 ya Aug 26 08:57:50 which is 95% of PCs Aug 26 08:58:28 * cypis|away is now away - Reason : ... Aug 26 08:58:53 yeah but you can go into legacy mode Aug 26 08:58:57 also Aug 26 08:59:22 windows 8 doesn't attract me so much Aug 26 08:59:34 i don't want a giant windows 7 phone Aug 26 08:59:43 i rather dislike windows 7 phone anyways Aug 26 09:00:00 cypis|away: no one cares about your away message, turn it off. Aug 26 09:14:54 2.5Gb of soruces to get a 85Mb package .. alala Aug 26 09:15:24 ain't that a bitch Aug 26 09:15:35 lol Aug 26 09:15:50 ^^ Aug 26 09:17:47 all this to fail on a "no space left on device" :) Aug 26 09:19:06 :( Aug 26 09:19:11 lol Aug 26 09:19:43 is android able to access to lvm devices? hm Aug 26 09:20:03 -device+partitions Aug 26 09:21:08 l8rs all Aug 26 09:21:10 i need sleep Aug 26 09:21:15 cya rhcp Aug 26 09:21:23 this 5-6am shit Aug 26 09:21:25 needs to stop Aug 26 09:21:26 lol Aug 26 09:21:42 :) Aug 26 09:21:57 same Aug 26 09:22:07 but will I ever have the drive to do it? probably not. Aug 26 09:22:18 the drive ? Aug 26 09:25:06 :) Aug 26 09:27:07 Right, random question Aug 26 09:27:24 has anyone looked into booting android from some of the ample 32 gigs (or 16 gigs) of "user space"? Aug 26 09:27:33 I am aware of kernel issues obviously Aug 26 09:27:49 but from the sounds of it, the partitioning and writing of stuff to the partitions is where people are getting to Aug 26 09:27:58 I was thinking if it were possible to mount up some filesystems from there Aug 26 09:27:59 it's what i sortof try Aug 26 09:28:02 ahhhh ok Aug 26 09:28:04 but as said Aug 26 09:28:06 it's lvm crap Aug 26 09:28:11 do we have any kind of "what we're doing" list>? Aug 26 09:28:12 and i never messed up with lvm Aug 26 09:28:14 I see Aug 26 09:28:16 me neither :P Aug 26 09:28:19 don't even know what it's about Aug 26 09:28:21 well i'm doing it totally sideways :p Aug 26 09:28:23 I just know it works for me at home Aug 26 09:28:32 yea sure it should work Aug 26 09:28:41 ok Aug 26 09:28:45 but when i tried to make a non-lvm partition i fucked everything Aug 26 09:28:46 XD Aug 26 09:28:51 as I know it's possible to dual boot a "native" android device Aug 26 09:28:52 ahhh Aug 26 09:28:55 right I getcha Aug 26 09:28:59 so you "bricked" yours now? Aug 26 09:29:03 yes Aug 26 09:29:04 Pulser: webOS folks resize the media partition to make space for an extra ext3fs partition Aug 26 09:29:06 but i ordered two Aug 26 09:29:06 what stage does it get to? Aug 26 09:29:17 eh, black screen stage Aug 26 09:29:17 rwhitby, ahh I see :) I was reading about optware Aug 26 09:29:21 I presume that's what it does? Aug 26 09:29:38 Pulser: not optware. meta-doctor ext3fs_partition_size option Aug 26 09:29:42 and is the "media" partition the vast bulk of the space, which the user can touch Aug 26 09:29:47 it's used to make space for the ubuntu chroot Aug 26 09:29:48 right, I see :) Aug 26 09:29:50 aye Aug 26 09:29:53 makes sense Aug 26 09:30:09 yeah, media is the "rest" of the LVM, formatted with vfat semantics. it appears as the USB drive. Aug 26 09:30:18 (when you plug the touchpad into a host) Aug 26 09:30:21 yeah Aug 26 09:30:24 that makes sense Aug 26 09:30:27 yep Aug 26 09:30:28 it's like the SGS2 Aug 26 09:30:36 i have /system and /data and block12 etc Aug 26 09:30:41 and then a large "userdata" partition Aug 26 09:30:43 mounted as sdcard Aug 26 09:30:47 as vfat I think Aug 26 09:31:00 if you needed a non-lvm partition, you could resize store-media down, then resize the whole LVM PV down, then resize the LVM partition, then add a new extended non-lvm partition Aug 26 09:31:17 rwhitby: i tried but i bricked device by doing that Aug 26 09:31:18 (: Aug 26 09:31:18 Flemmard, what did you actually do that bricked it? Aug 26 09:31:30 Flemmard, do you get into the recovery mode when you try>? Aug 26 09:31:34 or is it utterly screwed? Aug 26 09:31:34 Pulser: i added a partiton in the .xml describing things Aug 26 09:31:36 it flashed Aug 26 09:31:40 Flemmard: I presume you mean soft-bricked or borked, rather than bricked Aug 26 09:31:42 created all the crap no rpoblem Aug 26 09:31:46 but wont never boot Aug 26 09:31:51 hmmm Aug 26 09:31:53 no logo Aug 26 09:31:55 nothing Aug 26 09:31:57 do you get ANYTHING? Aug 26 09:31:58 oh Aug 26 09:32:06 rwhitby, doesn't sound borked :( Aug 26 09:32:09 Flemmard: can you still talk to bootie on it? Aug 26 09:32:12 no Aug 26 09:32:16 damn Aug 26 09:32:16 i cant do anything Aug 26 09:32:19 that sucks Aug 26 09:32:21 yes Aug 26 09:32:26 got jtag equipment, Flemmard ? Aug 26 09:32:27 Flemmard: so you can't get recovery mode icon? Aug 26 09:32:35 rwhitby: nope, nothing Aug 26 09:32:43 and as we have no way to pull out battery .. Aug 26 09:32:49 Pulser: no nothing Aug 26 09:32:54 ok Aug 26 09:32:59 have you tried the home+power combo? Aug 26 09:32:59 Flemmard: power+home for 30 seconds, then vol-up+power, with USB attached, right? Aug 26 09:33:01 I know that does something Aug 26 09:33:14 sorta "battery pull" reset thing :P Aug 26 09:33:25 rwhitby: i'll retry after, borked one is @ home Aug 26 09:33:31 but i tried so much things lol Aug 26 09:33:37 Flemmard: do you know exactly what you did? Aug 26 09:33:42 yes rwhitby Aug 26 09:33:55 if you overwrote anything before p13 you'll brick it Aug 26 09:34:00 well Aug 26 09:34:02 wait Aug 26 09:34:08 do you have a log Aug 26 09:34:10 of your commands? Aug 26 09:34:16 or a copy of the file Aug 26 09:34:17 that we can see? Aug 26 09:34:26 but the /boot ext3 partition or the lvm partitions can be blown away without issue Aug 26 09:34:29 rwhitby: i added an entry AFTER : Aug 26 09:34:29 Aug 26 09:34:40 like Aug 26 09:34:42 that's all Aug 26 09:35:04 Flemmard: did you have a capture of the doctor running from the command line, with the trenchcoat output? Aug 26 09:35:15 no i dont have anymore Aug 26 09:35:24 but i looked at it Aug 26 09:35:28 nothing went wrong Aug 26 09:35:46 I wonder if trenchcoat wrapped on the mmc size Aug 26 09:35:52 rwhitby, am I correct that this SoC has no way to load in a bootloader via USB? Aug 26 09:35:59 I'm not familar with it :( Aug 26 09:36:04 rwhitby: well, as the only non-fixed size is lvm Aug 26 09:36:10 it should've took on this one Aug 26 09:36:10 no ? Aug 26 09:36:10 Pulser: we know of no omap usb cpuboot equivalent Aug 26 09:36:35 ok Aug 26 09:36:42 so that's that idea in the can then :( Aug 26 09:36:45 Flemmard: if you put it *before* the LVM, it would have been fine. If you put it *in* the LVM, you would have been fine. After the LVM, I've never tried. Aug 26 09:37:02 well .. i've tried :( Aug 26 09:37:20 but this doesnt should've fucked partition order Aug 26 09:37:22 if that caused trenchcoat to wrap, you're screwed. Aug 26 09:37:37 this is unfortunately the reason I'm not really wanting to start to mess with partitions here yet :( Aug 26 09:37:39 it's quite strange Aug 26 09:37:47 until I've started to get the hang of how it all works Aug 26 09:38:04 wrapping around is a plausible failure mechanism Aug 26 09:38:15 yea .. Aug 26 09:38:17 yeah Aug 26 09:38:22 would that have overwritten bootie? Aug 26 09:38:36 * Pulser is trying to find a partition map so he can not look an idiot so muich :P Aug 26 09:38:38 worse, it would have overwritten the MSM stuff Aug 26 09:38:48 ugh Aug 26 09:38:50 :( Aug 26 09:38:56 not fun Aug 26 09:38:58 Pulser: topaz.xml in an unpacked webOS doctor in the webOS directory Aug 26 09:38:59 possible .. or bootie is still there, but tab is in a state that nothing can sort it Aug 26 09:39:21 Pulser: here you are : http://pastebin.com/NCc54AYG Aug 26 09:39:29 thx Flemmard Aug 26 09:39:31 Flemmard: if power+home for 30 seconds doesn't get you, then nothing software-wise that we know of will Aug 26 09:39:34 yeah rwhitby I've just opened it Aug 26 09:39:44 rwhitby: yes, i'll retry again .. Aug 26 09:39:48 I found power+home takes a LOT longer than I expected Aug 26 09:39:50 if you wrapped, you overwrote the mbr Aug 26 09:39:54 I had to hold it for quite some time Aug 26 09:39:58 I tell people 30 seconds Aug 26 09:40:09 yeah Aug 26 09:40:11 seems wise Aug 26 09:40:23 rwhitby: but atm it seems im screwed lol Aug 26 09:40:45 uhm yeah seems that way :P Aug 26 09:40:57 he'll go to guarantee i think Aug 26 09:41:00 Flemmard: one precautionary measure would have been to run trenchcoat with a file output to test your config Aug 26 09:41:08 hmmm... Aug 26 09:41:10 "I did a webos update and it screwed" Aug 26 09:41:22 should we make a list of such "good advice", rwhitby? Aug 26 09:41:23 rwhitby: well, trenchcoat havent throwed errors Aug 26 09:41:35 ie. we could make a "do not do the following, it gave us a brick, or other bad thing" Aug 26 09:41:36 list Aug 26 09:42:05 Pulser: in webOS we encode those rules in the meta-doctor script Aug 26 09:42:15 ah right Aug 26 09:42:41 is there a way to use the dump for a android chroot? Aug 26 09:43:06 but yeah, adding a partition before the LVM, or in the LVM, is known to be safe. Aug 26 09:43:16 ok .. Aug 26 09:43:26 i havent added it before because i think it wasnt safe Aug 26 09:43:33 putting something after a partition with size="*", not so safe. Aug 26 09:43:38 yea .. Aug 26 09:43:42 my bad so :( Aug 26 09:43:49 :( Aug 26 09:43:59 yeah, I wonder how well HP inspects devices Aug 26 09:44:04 and you can run trenchcoat with a file output, and then examine that file to make sure the partitions got put where you expected Aug 26 09:44:04 they must lol if they jtag and look Aug 26 09:44:08 to see the silly attempts :P Aug 26 09:44:23 hmm, that's a good point, to ensure it's not overly large etc Aug 26 09:44:27 and hence wrapped Aug 26 09:45:19 happily i got a second one Aug 26 09:45:20 lol Aug 26 09:45:30 lol Aug 26 09:45:35 you never told us that :P Aug 26 09:45:56 so now i'm trying to figure out a way to try and boot android ! Aug 26 09:46:11 hehe Aug 26 09:46:57 android init process does confuses me Aug 26 09:46:58 lol Aug 26 09:46:58 HP has never had a webOS device bricked by webOS Internals Aug 26 09:46:58 or any end-user using our stuff. Aug 26 09:46:58 one reason why they don't hassle us. they know we don't cause returns. Aug 26 09:46:59 http://bit.ly/veer-disassembly is the result of my mucking around with the A6 on the veer. Aug 26 09:46:59 rather than sent it back, I got people to pay for two replacements by posting pictures Aug 26 09:47:49 Flemmard: there are folks who want to salt a touchpad Aug 26 09:48:04 interesting idea rwhitby Aug 26 09:48:07 to salt ? Aug 26 09:48:16 good way to make back the $$ Aug 26 09:48:17 http://www.novaports.org/wiki/NookColor_Salting Aug 26 09:48:17 :) Aug 26 09:48:38 lol Aug 26 09:48:38 our team will take it off your hands for $50 Aug 26 09:48:55 i'll send it to customer care, im sure it will be fixed :) Aug 26 09:49:01 we're looking for the HDMI output Aug 26 09:49:15 ahhh Aug 26 09:49:17 I heard about that Aug 26 09:49:24 someone mentioned MHD possibility Aug 26 09:49:27 MHL* Aug 26 09:49:39 my contacts tell me it's accessible under the back cover Aug 26 09:50:04 hehe now im afraid to create a partition .. even in lvm .. Aug 26 09:50:05 we're just waiting for someone to brick their touchpad Aug 26 09:50:20 otherwise we'll have to sacrifice a good one Aug 26 09:50:23 ah I see Aug 26 09:50:31 yeah, you only got working ones? :P Aug 26 09:50:35 Flemmard, I would be wary of sending in a product for replacement that you broke by doing things not covered under the warranty Aug 26 09:50:41 Flemmard did you unbrick your? Aug 26 09:50:49 so wait, you think there's HDMI contacts on this, rwhitby ? Aug 26 09:50:53 internally obviously Aug 26 09:50:57 sirana: no not yet Aug 26 09:51:05 Pulser: I've been told there is by someone who should know. Aug 26 09:51:13 interesting :) Aug 26 09:51:14 cryptk: well, i just used webos dctor Aug 26 09:51:34 so a completely stock doctor is what caused the break? Aug 26 09:51:35 Flemmard, if your MBR thingy is broken, I'd personally not hold out too hard for it working :( Aug 26 09:51:36 i dont think it's over warranty :p Aug 26 09:51:46 lol Aug 26 09:51:48 no cryptk Aug 26 09:51:55 but .. do they have to know ? Aug 26 09:52:05 Pulser: yes .. but i dont know what is broken Aug 26 09:52:12 ok Aug 26 09:52:16 from the sounds of it Aug 26 09:52:22 yes sure .. Aug 26 09:52:23 you've added a partition on the end Aug 26 09:52:26 since they get so few returns that can't be fixed by a doctor in store, they do analysis on those that can't be doctored Aug 26 09:52:29 Does HP even fulfill warranty claims now? The speakers on one of my pads is starting to flake already Aug 26 09:52:30 which has gone "over" what is available Aug 26 09:52:39 Flemmard, all I am saying is if you did somethign that falls outside of the warranty, and that broke it... then I wouldn't send it in for a warranty Aug 26 09:52:47 so it's likely they would look at this one. Aug 26 09:52:48 :/ Aug 26 09:52:52 yeah .. Aug 26 09:52:56 well Aug 26 09:52:56 they can absolutely tell if it was broken by doing unofficial things to it Aug 26 09:52:58 rwhitby, very good point, doctor seems a fairly good tool to fix anything other than "deliberate" damage Aug 26 09:53:12 Pulser: works 99.9999% of the time Aug 26 09:53:18 i first thought to wait that battery runs out Aug 26 09:53:24 and Flemmard as rwhitby said... we will buy it from ya ;) Aug 26 09:53:27 yeah Aug 26 09:53:29 and for the ones it doesn't work, they want to know why. Aug 26 09:53:38 or at least they used to want to know why ;) Aug 26 09:53:40 as it could be an issue with doctor the could improve on Aug 26 09:53:40 yeah but hey, i bought it 99+7€ two days ago lol Aug 26 09:53:43 they* Aug 26 09:54:21 $50 is cheap for an education ;) Aug 26 09:54:22 * cypis is no longer away : Gone for 55 minutes 57 seconds Aug 26 09:54:36 hehehe Aug 26 09:54:52 34€ Aug 26 09:54:55 would have been cheaper to ask me though ;) Aug 26 09:55:56 hehe Aug 26 09:55:58 indeed Aug 26 09:56:09 sure Aug 26 09:56:15 but hey .. lol Aug 26 09:56:20 it's my first brick Aug 26 09:56:21 lol Aug 26 09:56:23 lol Aug 26 09:56:26 so you are proud of it Aug 26 09:56:27 :P Aug 26 09:56:44 never bricked m300., kaiser, touch pro, hero, vision Aug 26 09:56:45 xD Aug 26 09:56:47 Flemmard you can put it to microwave oven for 3 sec and then send it to warranty :D Aug 26 09:56:58 they should replace main board Aug 26 09:57:01 lol Aug 26 09:57:08 you really think microwave is under guarantee? :D Aug 26 09:57:17 such accountability for your own actions being shown here ... Aug 26 09:57:37 LOL Aug 26 09:57:38 it will not affect on microwave :D Aug 26 09:57:51 lol Aug 26 09:57:58 * Pulser imagines they check for every chip being burnt out Aug 26 09:58:04 here you have a guide http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lRMPdUf9Nc Aug 26 09:58:05 i shoud've orderer more than 2 ^^ Aug 26 09:58:09 as that might be slightly obvious if EVERYTHING is dead Aug 26 09:58:42 jtag hardware is difficult to find ? Aug 26 09:58:52 what has same touch panel? Aug 26 09:59:00 i need firmware Aug 26 09:59:03 that's the other thing we're looking for when we salt it Aug 26 09:59:16 JTAG TERMINALS :D Aug 26 09:59:27 jtag, serial, hdmi, usb OTG, etc ... Aug 26 09:59:49 i know you want to convince me to send it to you XD Aug 26 09:59:55 lol Aug 26 10:01:24 in poland you can unbrick it for 20eu :P Aug 26 10:01:36 well Aug 26 10:01:38 i wait a little while Aug 26 10:01:48 maybe)probably_) other people will brick it, and find a solution Aug 26 10:01:49 xD Aug 26 10:01:59 in soviet russia... device bricks you! Aug 26 10:02:04 haha Aug 26 10:02:08 sorry... had to say it Aug 26 10:02:12 np ^^ Aug 26 10:02:19 yea chuck norris will brick you too :P Aug 26 10:02:21 alright, someone with ops please get rid of the TouchX2 guy in #touchpad, he's spouting random bullshit in engrish and is failing to troll simply because it's late where most of the people in there are. Aug 26 10:02:49 but now i'm too afraid to add a lvm partition .. lol Aug 26 10:02:52 damn ^^ Aug 26 10:02:57 Flemmard: I'm sure there will be others who decide not to look at the work we've done on these devices in the last 2 years before messing with stuff. There will be plenty of bricks to come. Aug 26 10:03:07 yeah rwhitby Aug 26 10:03:16 yeah I'm sure so Aug 26 10:03:22 that's why i wait a while, maybe if battery drains out etc .. Aug 26 10:03:32 yep, our wiki has a wealth of info on it already Aug 26 10:03:32 no real hope but hey Aug 26 10:03:52 and in six months when folks realise they're not getting ICS on their tablet, there will be plenty going cheap on ebay too Aug 26 10:04:02 haha Aug 26 10:04:04 yea :p Aug 26 10:04:08 but i want flyer rom on it :) Aug 26 10:04:21 well Aug 26 10:04:23 battery will be dead after 2weeks max :D Aug 26 10:04:28 As long as I can run Arch/another linux distro natively (talking with one of my friends about it, we're gonna take a stab at it) I will be happy. Aug 26 10:04:28 if someone can get gingerbread running on this Aug 26 10:04:34 and a way for me to push files and stuff Aug 26 10:04:38 I can work on honeycomb for it Aug 26 10:04:42 yea Aug 26 10:04:44 we can too Aug 26 10:04:45 heck, we have honeycomb running on the Advent Vega Aug 26 10:04:47 with seo, mdeejay Aug 26 10:04:47 without sources Aug 26 10:04:48 acfrazier: yeah, no reason at all why a linux distro won't run Aug 26 10:04:50 aye L( Aug 26 10:04:54 :)* Aug 26 10:05:09 but atm we're all waiting for touchpads Aug 26 10:05:20 to begin serious things lol Aug 26 10:05:20 acfrazier: since the libs will be compatible for the GL drivers Aug 26 10:05:22 my friend is still waiting on a device as well (it's coming from me, he couldn't secure one) Aug 26 10:05:51 but now i want to get a even not-functionnal booting android lol Aug 26 10:06:29 I'm surprised no-one has taken the couple of hours to repackage that dumped image with the meta-doctor Aug 26 10:06:29 (and a non bricked device, too) Aug 26 10:07:33 take out the proprietary HP test apps and qualcomm stuff, and you could write a meta-doctor script to distribute it legally Aug 26 10:07:42 rwhitby, I would if I knew a bit more Aug 26 10:07:47 but ATM I have no tablet here Aug 26 10:07:55 and it's a personal rule that I never release stuff I've not tried myself Aug 26 10:08:01 but yes... I'm surprised too tbh Aug 26 10:08:06 Pulser: good rule Aug 26 10:08:08 one I follow too Aug 26 10:08:12 yeah, hate people who don't Aug 26 10:08:25 well, I will admit, I don't test EVERY update for my SGS2 stuff, if I'm just changing a tiny file Aug 26 10:08:27 that does nothing Aug 26 10:08:32 ie. worst case, it doesn't do anything Aug 26 10:08:35 or an app disappears Aug 26 10:08:38 the dump has the test apps and stuff? Aug 26 10:08:40 but I usually am testing it as I post it Aug 26 10:08:42 acfrazier, I think so Aug 26 10:08:43 yea we always test unity too Aug 26 10:08:45 let me check Aug 26 10:09:06 seems everyone was in such a hurry to get credit for getting the dump out first that they didn't realise that if they stripped out all the illegal stuff first they could have got help from other projects to repackage it Aug 26 10:09:13 rwhitby: i take at look at meta-doctor, can be nice :) Aug 26 10:09:52 rwhitby, indeed lol Aug 26 10:09:53 is this meta-doctor the thing that was put on the site but then was removed shortly after being notified it violated copyright stuff ? Aug 26 10:10:16 . Aug 26 10:10:21 or is this something entirely different ? Aug 26 10:10:27 something completely different Aug 26 10:10:41 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Aug 26 10:10:42 * don-i walks away pretending he didnt say anything Aug 26 10:10:54 man.. I was about to post that link Aug 26 10:10:56 rwhitby, is fast Aug 26 10:11:00 boys boys Aug 26 10:11:04 you BOTH can post the link Aug 26 10:11:11 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Aug 26 10:11:16 yay... I feel special now ;) Aug 26 10:11:23 \o/ Aug 26 10:11:31 o/ high 5 ? Aug 26 10:11:42 \o syn/ack Aug 26 10:11:56 don-i: meta-doctor is the means by which end-users customize the HP webOS Doctor, to make their own custom image without anyone needing to redistribute anything illegally Aug 26 10:12:10 I see Aug 26 10:12:28 rwhitby, if there was no actual "webos" in an output doctor jar Aug 26 10:12:32 would it be legal to distribute it? Aug 26 10:12:39 ie. if you put android in a doctor package, can that be shared? Aug 26 10:12:46 rwhitby, gotcha. ive been meaning to do some reading about webos doctor, but since i dont have my tablet yet, im rather...un motivated :/ Aug 26 10:12:46 it's a fairly common method employed by legitimate homebrew groups for all sorts of devices Aug 26 10:13:16 if there was no code within the doctor that fell under copyright, then it would be legally distributable Aug 26 10:13:22 but that may be harder than you think Aug 26 10:13:22 ok Aug 26 10:13:36 well, the doctor code itself is not redistributable Aug 26 10:13:43 right Aug 26 10:13:48 lol...i love step1- windows Aug 26 10:13:48 but could you distribute your tar Aug 26 10:13:52 and tell them to shove it in there Aug 26 10:13:55 :) Aug 26 10:13:58 what would be the "correct" way to do it is to create a script that uses the meta doctor to modify the webos doctor however you need to Aug 26 10:14:14 there are even examples in there of how to do that... we have scripts for doing things like making a Sprint Pre2 Aug 26 10:14:15 ie. here's my tar file, put this into a doctor file you may happen to acquire from this address: (link to HP) Aug 26 10:14:27 I don't understand the desire that Android folks have to redistribute finished items. Just give the user a tool which does it for them on their own machine. Bypasses all the legal problems in one easy step. Aug 26 10:14:40 so my understanding is that webos doctor prevents bricks of webos devices EXCEPT the touchpad ? Aug 26 10:14:48 rwhitby, unfortunately, the IQ of the average android user is unbelievably low Aug 26 10:14:56 whats an iq ? Aug 26 10:14:58 meta-doctor will never brick a touchpad Aug 26 10:14:59 I think you guys will shortly start to see the issue we guys face Aug 26 10:15:00 i love my android phone Aug 26 10:15:05 rwhitby, very true :) Aug 26 10:15:09 ok, at the bottom of touch panel failings Aug 26 10:15:13 the trouble is the people who come along buying this one going Aug 26 10:15:22 "omg omg I wantz da anderoidz NAO PLOX" Aug 26 10:15:25 too bad we dont got usbboot on qualcoom Aug 26 10:15:26 we have the wrong firmware Aug 26 10:15:29 so they want a one-button thing :P Aug 26 10:15:32 Flemmard, yeah :( Aug 26 10:15:32 i can haz too ? Aug 26 10:15:38 I don't agree with this giving things on a plate Aug 26 10:15:39 but maybe it exists Aug 26 10:15:41 but .. Aug 26 10:15:44 Pulser: and they have no respect for copyright either. Aug 26 10:15:44 Pulser, we have pretty close to that for a lot of things Aug 26 10:15:55 Flemmard, I suggest looking up whatever development board this is based on Aug 26 10:15:57 if you want webos 2.X on an original Pre, you run the script for that Aug 26 10:16:06 that script uses the meta doctor to make you what you need Aug 26 10:16:07 it's a msm8660 board Aug 26 10:16:08 get a datasheet, and find out what you can do to it Aug 26 10:16:11 cryptk, makes sense :) Aug 26 10:16:15 then you just reprogram the phone with the doctor that it makes Aug 26 10:16:22 rwhitby, yeah, though I guess I'm not used to this having to consider copyright of doctor and other stuff Aug 26 10:16:25 you could do something similar for what you are after Aug 26 10:16:31 what I'm used to is that it's a zip, and you put files in a zip once you are done Aug 26 10:16:42 Pulser: never had a problem with google apps or market? Aug 26 10:16:43 have a script that unpacks the doctor, modifies it to turn it into an android flasher, then repacks it Aug 26 10:16:44 samsung turns a complete blind eye to people using their systems flashing tool Aug 26 10:16:46 "odin" Aug 26 10:16:53 rwhitby, nah I don't have issues with those :) Aug 26 10:16:55 snapdragon is an arm based core right ? Aug 26 10:16:59 yes Aug 26 10:17:26 Pulser: as I said, no respect for copyright ;) Aug 26 10:17:33 craptain, you never got your screen to work ? Aug 26 10:17:49 Pulser: unless you're *really* running an AOSP-only image Aug 26 10:17:50 rwhitby, well, I only use devices with authorised google apps Aug 26 10:17:56 no touch Aug 26 10:18:00 and haev contacts at elgooG Aug 26 10:18:08 overclocking is done though changing the pll freq then ? Aug 26 10:18:11 Pulser: cool, so you're using the same technique as meta-doctor Aug 26 10:18:27 or rather Aug 26 10:18:27 rwhitby, well basically, what I have seen done Aug 26 10:18:28 is Aug 26 10:18:30 pll multiplier Aug 26 10:18:38 "copy google apps and proprietary schizz to a temp folder Aug 26 10:18:40 install rom Aug 26 10:18:44 restore google apps from said temp folder Aug 26 10:18:45 " Aug 26 10:18:50 that's one method I've seen Aug 26 10:18:53 Pulser: yep, same general tecnique Aug 26 10:19:02 end user deals with the copying Aug 26 10:19:02 indeed :) Aug 26 10:19:05 aye Aug 26 10:19:07 no-one redistributes it Aug 26 10:19:17 indeed, and the user would actively have to go doing it Aug 26 10:19:20 to be breaking the law Aug 26 10:19:31 the end user can do it without breaking the law Aug 26 10:19:37 the end user isn't re-distributing it Aug 26 10:19:42 therefore no violation Aug 26 10:19:54 yep Aug 26 10:19:58 btw, this has an adreno GPU? Aug 26 10:20:04 yep Aug 26 10:20:09 yes Aug 26 10:20:11 that is the whole purpose behind the beta doc Aug 26 10:20:17 it has like all the same hardware as sensation Aug 26 10:20:35 im curious how fast you can actually push this thing Aug 26 10:20:45 either with software tweaking or hardware mods Aug 26 10:20:50 88 mph Aug 26 10:21:06 with a charged flux ? Aug 26 10:21:14 yes. 2.21 Gigawatts. Aug 26 10:21:17 well... it can technically go over 88mph, but at that point it go's into a different time and you won't know how fast it is going... Aug 26 10:21:29 well pretty fast Aug 26 10:21:46 and Flemmard it's 1.21 Gigawatts... not 2.21 Aug 26 10:22:04 cryptk yeah but in french version it's been translated to 2.21, because of lipsync issues Aug 26 10:22:07 9afaik) Aug 26 10:22:11 (afaik) Aug 26 10:22:12 rounding errors ? Aug 26 10:22:16 lol Aug 26 10:22:48 https://developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-mdp-8660.pdf Aug 26 10:22:55 hmm... the dev board ships with gingerbread Aug 26 10:22:56 :) Aug 26 10:23:17 gingerbread is sure runnable on it Aug 26 10:23:26 yh Aug 26 10:23:34 as it runs on sensation Aug 26 10:23:56 the only diff between sensation and touchpad, (apq8660 and msm8660) is the gsm/cdma support Aug 26 10:24:08 have you guys realised what the android image on the touchpad was used for yet? Aug 26 10:24:25 I've not had a chance to look at it properly Aug 26 10:24:25 booooo Aug 26 10:24:27 this datasheet sucks Aug 26 10:24:33 I know, WAY too short Aug 26 10:24:37 that's an advert sheet Aug 26 10:24:54 here's a hint: "Production Test Tool" app icon Aug 26 10:24:58 hehe Aug 26 10:25:08 that don't exist on qualcomm dev board images Aug 26 10:25:19 right Aug 26 10:25:25 * rwhitby bbl Aug 26 10:25:27 so I am guessing they were shipping it with this Aug 26 10:25:34 and HP was "undoing" it? Aug 26 10:25:53 this could make sense Aug 26 10:25:58 well Aug 26 10:26:01 kinda Aug 26 10:26:02 xD Aug 26 10:26:03 I think what rwhitby may be getting at is that they were using it to make sure all of the hardware was functional... Aug 26 10:26:12 yes .. this too Aug 26 10:26:15 which would mean that they had to of had it working with all of the hardware Aug 26 10:26:20 touchscreen and everything... Aug 26 10:26:28 can't test the hardware if the OS didn't work with it Aug 26 10:26:36 hehe Aug 26 10:26:39 which makes sense :) Aug 26 10:26:53 which in a roundabout way basically means... this should be more than possible Aug 26 10:26:59 yes Aug 26 10:27:03 oh man, I know it's possible :P Aug 26 10:27:04 but Aug 26 10:27:06 the question Aug 26 10:27:08 but it is only partially likely that the android install was "full featured" Aug 26 10:27:13 is : if the devboard comes with gingerbread Aug 26 10:27:16 was talking to someone who was running it Aug 26 10:27:19 why this rom is froyo ? Aug 26 10:27:44 man finding the snapdragon datasheet is not easy..i thought..website..click click download Aug 26 10:28:14 is it not freely available to the general public ? only to high rollin customers ? Aug 26 10:29:11 i'm thinking the android devices may be pre prod Aug 26 10:29:18 mmm likely Aug 26 10:29:32 CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_CYPRESS_HP_I2C is the driver in them Aug 26 10:29:38 vs CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_CY8CTMA395 Aug 26 10:29:46 i have the CY8CTMA395 firmware Aug 26 10:29:49 hmmm Aug 26 10:29:56 is anyone putting this kind of useful info anywhere? Aug 26 10:30:46 one of you should start a wiki somewhere ;) Aug 26 10:31:17 could do it easily if there isn't a suitable one Aug 26 10:31:19 i give up trying to find the datasheet....but i think you can probably push it beyond 1.5Ghz stable Aug 26 10:31:23 I would like to request that you try and keep andriod port info off of the WOSI wiki... purely because they are two very separate topics Aug 26 10:31:34 if you replace the hardware crystal Aug 26 10:31:39 cryptk, agreed Aug 26 10:31:46 the last thing you want is android taking a dump all over your wiki Aug 26 10:31:49 don't take that last statement the wrong way... I'm not against you guys or anything... they are just two different topics Aug 26 10:31:51 and then the users coming along Aug 26 10:31:52 going Aug 26 10:31:58 "ugh, that's wrong", and changing shit Aug 26 10:32:04 as android has a tendency to "take over" Aug 26 10:32:13 Pulser, exactly, it would lead to confusion for all involved if they were mixed Aug 26 10:32:17 yes Aug 26 10:32:20 agreed Aug 26 10:32:30 and it would make my life hell trying to maintain all of it, lol Aug 26 10:34:06 hehe Aug 26 10:34:16 * Pulser is looking to see if a wiki already exists for this Aug 26 10:41:39 there appears to be a wiki at http://fzservers.com/touchdroid Aug 26 11:04:12 morning guys Aug 26 11:05:40 morning Aug 26 11:07:34 is it still +m in here? Aug 26 11:07:36 PM me Aug 26 11:07:37 no Aug 26 11:07:39 ok Aug 26 11:07:40 good Aug 26 11:07:42 :) Aug 26 11:08:04 Flemmard im pissed lol Aug 26 11:08:05 why, what's up? Aug 26 11:08:09 why that ? Aug 26 11:08:15 this was supposed to be my day off Aug 26 11:08:20 bosses told me i have to work today Aug 26 11:08:33 i didnt leave work until hella late Aug 26 11:08:35 that's dumb.. unfortunately that's also life though Aug 26 11:08:46 kinda pointless Aug 26 11:08:52 im going to be sitting around today Aug 26 11:08:55 that's it Aug 26 11:09:02 i finished 6-7 systems last night before i lefty Aug 26 11:09:05 left* Aug 26 11:09:10 Ah. What do you do, PC repair? Aug 26 11:09:31 acfrazier sysadmin but was setting up new PC's for our developers Aug 26 11:09:35 ahh Aug 26 11:09:42 yea lol Aug 26 11:09:43 why'd he want you to come in today Aug 26 11:09:54 neejay to finish the systems uo Aug 26 11:09:56 up* Aug 26 11:10:06 so i stayed extra late last night to get them done Aug 26 11:10:11 they're all done? Aug 26 11:10:15 yupp Aug 26 11:10:15 you told him that? Aug 26 11:10:17 wtf Aug 26 11:10:20 every single one is done Aug 26 11:10:23 and they know that Aug 26 11:10:26 and got Aug 26 11:10:33 well, do you get paid to sit on your ass at least? Aug 26 11:10:35 "well, ill still see you in the AM" Aug 26 11:10:56 i do but c'mon...i got 3 touchpads coming today...i want my day off to be my day off :P Aug 26 11:11:05 wooow Aug 26 11:11:11 are they sig required? Aug 26 11:11:17 I guess in case they have any problems Aug 26 11:11:24 software, hardware, right? Aug 26 11:11:24 acfrazier idk and if so, my grandparents are home anyway Aug 26 11:11:28 ^^ Aug 26 11:11:33 sitting here waiting on a delivery van myself Aug 26 11:11:37 don't do same error as me ProTekk XD Aug 26 11:11:44 don'; t add a partition AFTER lvm one XD Aug 26 11:11:49 if it's indirect, do what I did: write the tracking numbers on a post-it, sign it, and say "leave it on the back porch" but in my case the guy crammed in the corner of the front patio lol Aug 26 11:11:54 neejay, really they're panicking about this hurricane shit Aug 26 11:12:01 ah, ok Aug 26 11:12:02 what state Aug 26 11:12:07 neejay NJ Aug 26 11:12:12 damn Aug 26 11:12:13 we wont be getting SHIT! Aug 26 11:12:14 ok Aug 26 11:12:16 haha Aug 26 11:12:18 overhyped Aug 26 11:12:57 yummy: http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?tracknumbers=946930869831718 Aug 26 11:13:11 :) Aug 26 11:13:33 but yea Aug 26 11:13:38 someone is always home Aug 26 11:13:42 for me it was wedensday Aug 26 11:13:43 my granparents babysit Aug 26 11:13:47 so it's all good ;) Aug 26 11:14:13 vinylfreak89 you awake, prick? Aug 26 11:14:54 ugh Aug 26 11:15:01 i could be working from home today Aug 26 11:15:13 tell me what i CANT do with SSH + VPN + RDP Aug 26 11:15:16 like seriously Aug 26 11:15:39 *shrugs* Aug 26 11:15:40 coffee Aug 26 11:15:43 :) Aug 26 11:15:50 Flemmard at a diner right now lol Aug 26 11:15:54 right by my house Aug 26 11:15:56 i basically live here Aug 26 11:16:02 lol Aug 26 11:16:09 and we have a diner 2 buildings down from work Aug 26 11:16:10 lol i see Aug 26 11:16:21 and we have coffee in every suite at work xD Aug 26 11:16:27 big ass brewers Aug 26 11:16:39 yeah cofee is companie's drug Aug 26 11:16:43 it's quite mad ^^ Aug 26 11:16:54 especially for ours where most employees are programmers lol Aug 26 11:17:08 i must be an alien, i dont like coffee Aug 26 11:17:09 xD Aug 26 11:17:25 they turn raw caffiene into professional, functional code :P Aug 26 11:17:47 a few of them though Aug 26 11:17:53 have what i like to refer to as Aug 26 11:17:59 "Serial Killer Face" Aug 26 11:18:20 just that cold stare they give you Aug 26 11:18:21 ugh Aug 26 11:18:30 cant even fucking say "hi" Aug 26 11:18:48 or "THANKS FOR RECOVERING MY DATA FROM MY RAID0 FUCKUP!" Aug 26 11:18:49 -_- Aug 26 11:19:38 kinda pissed me off last night Aug 26 11:19:47 yeah Aug 26 11:19:53 the developers just got OptiPlex 990's last night Aug 26 11:19:56 i7's Aug 26 11:20:00 all the goodies Aug 26 11:20:04 they CODE Aug 26 11:20:10 i do DBA and sysadmin Aug 26 11:20:12 i7 is good when compiling Aug 26 11:20:28 and i have a 6 year old fucking POS Dell 170L Aug 26 11:20:35 a fucking CELERON! Aug 26 11:20:41 512 MB of RAM Aug 26 11:20:44 40GB HDD Aug 26 11:20:46 fuck you Aug 26 11:20:47 wow Aug 26 11:20:48 LOL Aug 26 11:20:53 awesome engine Aug 26 11:20:54 :p Aug 26 11:20:58 ohhh yea Aug 26 11:21:03 hardcore man Aug 26 11:21:15 at least you can't play minecraft XD Aug 26 11:21:25 i use my netbook more than that pc tbh Aug 26 11:21:30 yeah Aug 26 11:21:32 guess it runs some flavor of linux? no way you'd get any modern windows to run well on it, not even Aug 26 11:21:34 XP SP3 Aug 26 11:21:37 my fucking dual core Atom has more processing power Aug 26 11:21:45 acfrazier on the 170L? Aug 26 11:21:48 Win Xp SP3 Aug 26 11:21:56 holy hell it must be so slow Aug 26 11:21:56 same for my netbook Aug 26 11:22:06 lul Aug 26 11:22:16 acfrazier i learned to never shut it down if i want it usable by 9 AM ;) Aug 26 11:22:42 like, I tried XP on a celeron 600mhz, 768MB RAM.. it just doesn't go Aug 26 11:22:47 10GB HDD Aug 26 11:22:52 rofl Aug 26 11:22:56 i feel the pain Aug 26 11:22:59 OH! Aug 26 11:23:04 ANOTHER THING THAT PISSED ME OFF! Aug 26 11:23:07 mother fuckers Aug 26 11:23:15 i have a single 15" monitor Aug 26 11:23:26 upgrade? Aug 26 11:23:39 CRT ? Aug 26 11:23:39 :) Aug 26 11:23:43 the women in Marketing bitched about their DUAL 19" monitors not being big enough for "data spreadsheets" Aug 26 11:23:48 28 inch monitors like 200 Aug 26 11:24:01 guess what department got all new 24" LED monitors? Aug 26 11:24:03 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Aug 26 11:24:12 ProTekk, you better watch FedEx doesn't pull a "we'll put it on the truck but not deliver it today, it can wait till tomorrow" thing they have pulled on me twice in the past Aug 26 11:24:30 acfrazier i've only had that issue with UPS Aug 26 11:24:37 fedex does it too Aug 26 11:24:40 never had it happen with UPS Aug 26 11:24:46 except Home Delivery delivers on saturday Aug 26 11:24:49 UPS plays fucking soccer with my boxes Aug 26 11:24:51 -_- Aug 26 11:24:55 if it was ground, you'd be fucked until monday Aug 26 11:25:06 i are sad Aug 26 11:25:08 Aug 25, 2011 5:31 AM Aug 26 11:25:08 Departed FedEx location Aug 26 11:25:08 OLIVE BRANCH, MS Aug 26 11:25:25 acfrazier, i believe in FedEx, they already delivered everything else that was part of the package from HP Aug 26 11:25:28 it hasnt updated at all Aug 26 11:25:31 just not the 2 TP's Aug 26 11:25:50 Framework, fuck off, grow a pair, and then come back Aug 26 11:25:53 ok baby? Aug 26 11:25:55 <3 Aug 26 11:26:28 what kind of fucking name for a town is olive branch anyway Aug 26 11:26:42 alright guys Aug 26 11:26:49 ill be back in lets say 30-40 minute Aug 26 11:26:53 time to head to work Aug 26 11:26:57 alright Aug 26 11:27:00 * ProTekk sighs in disgusts Aug 26 11:27:05 cya later lol Aug 26 12:19:21 Good morning Aug 26 12:19:29 hi Aug 26 12:20:07 Hi Aug 26 12:20:13 hi Aug 26 12:22:59 farchord, is there a status link on what is established and not? I've got my touchpad and am starting to go through stuff, but I haven't a clue if I'm covering already-covered ground Aug 26 12:23:19 touchpad just came, actually likeing webos so far, but dman it's a heavy bit of kit, at least compared to my ipad v1 Aug 26 12:23:30 I am undecided about WebOS Aug 26 12:23:32 all I will say Aug 26 12:23:37 is use preware to install the patches Aug 26 12:23:39 and turn off logging Aug 26 12:23:42 before you judge it Aug 26 12:24:21 yeah busy updating and installing patches now Aug 26 12:24:28 Pulser, at last news, you need to first proove yourself about building your own kernel with the patch provided in the github, and send it to jbruchon. Once that's done, you'll get access to the "Fortress of Solitude" (The private channel) where I'm sure every information is provided on where the project is. Aug 26 12:24:44 lol Aug 26 12:24:53 so wait, you're asking me to build a kernel to prove I can build one? Aug 26 12:25:10 meh, I can do that, but I have zero interest in kernels Aug 26 12:25:15 technically, just to proove you're not worthless Aug 26 12:25:17 ah ok Aug 26 12:25:21 if you dont mind me saying Aug 26 12:25:21 fair enough Aug 26 12:25:23 I'll think about it Aug 26 12:25:30 I dunno if I cba with this tbh Aug 26 12:25:45 but ya the kernel with jb's config, and be able to boot your tablet offa it Aug 26 12:25:47 but fair enough, your project etc Aug 26 12:26:36 * rwhitby sends jbruchon an overclocked 2x1.9GHz F15C kernel ... Aug 26 12:26:46 LOL Aug 26 12:27:03 yeah, I've got about 1m people wanting me to do shit for them, so this will have to wait Aug 26 12:27:21 unfortunately building a kernel from sources with a pre-made patch can't come high there :( Aug 26 12:28:14 hm Aug 26 12:28:31 Pulser: https://github.com/renan-/touchpad-kernel Aug 26 12:28:58 Flemmard, so they are asking me to build that kernel??? Aug 26 12:29:07 with a patch applied Aug 26 12:29:10 no Aug 26 12:29:12 but this kernel works Aug 26 12:29:19 oic Aug 26 12:29:24 :) Aug 26 12:29:39 (tested and approved) Aug 26 12:29:49 Linux webos-device 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 25 18:52:04 CEST 2011 armv7l GNU/Li Aug 26 12:29:49 nux Aug 26 12:29:56 meh, I don't really fancy setting a precedent, as I don't go down the line of kernel stuff Aug 26 12:30:00 too time consuming Aug 26 12:30:01 LAst I heard, you need to build HP's open source webOS kernel with jb's patches Aug 26 12:30:27 Flemmard: that github actually has some real significant work in it. Aug 26 12:30:41 farchord: but you speak to make a custom kernel for what? webos or and ? Aug 26 12:31:08 Yes, webos. Aug 26 12:31:13 okay Aug 26 12:31:18 Again, it's really just to proove that you're not some shmuck. Aug 26 12:31:23 yeah lol Aug 26 12:31:25 i see Aug 26 12:31:40 fair enough Aug 26 12:31:40 And boot your tablet offa it, and provide the build logs proving you built it Aug 26 12:31:50 though if you want to verify that, you can easily enough find my work :p Aug 26 12:31:59 i'd hope xda does the same for 'recognized developer' mention .. Aug 26 12:31:59 I'll pass for now, since evidently we're still stuck at the kernel stage Aug 26 12:32:03 hey im only quoting jb's rules here Aug 26 12:32:05 Flemmard, I am the one who approves them :) Aug 26 12:32:15 I do it from looking through things Aug 26 12:32:16 you can't even imagine how many 'devs' are not even capable to patch a kernel .. Aug 26 12:32:19 well, I'm one of the ones Aug 26 12:32:20 lol Aug 26 12:32:21 I'm not really a coder myself, just moderating this chan Aug 26 12:32:22 Flemmard: ah, so you're the one who rejected me? Aug 26 12:32:26 patch -p1 < whatever Aug 26 12:32:31 LMFAO rwhitby Aug 26 12:32:31 rwhitby: rejected ? Aug 26 12:32:41 Flemmard: yep. Aug 26 12:32:42 Pulser: i dont know if u heard about android 2.3.4 usb issue ? Aug 26 12:32:45 rwhitby: where ? Aug 26 12:32:52 hmm android 2.3.4 usb issue... Aug 26 12:32:56 XDA webOS subforum Aug 26 12:32:58 uhm, I am not aware of one on devices I used Aug 26 12:33:03 rwhitby, Aug 26 12:33:06 hmm, let me see Aug 26 12:33:12 I can look that up Aug 26 12:33:15 hold on I'll PM Aug 26 12:33:16 rwhitby: eh no i have no decision power on xda :) Aug 26 12:33:33 oh, sorry, s/Flemmard/Pulser/ Aug 26 12:33:36 hehe Aug 26 12:33:38 sure let me check Aug 26 12:33:50 Pulser: well, maybe htc probably. but anyways, there's a little patch, found on codeaurora that solves it, needs a little adaptation, but hey .. like 5min work .. but people can't do it .. so they whine about us Aug 26 12:34:12 hehe Aug 26 12:34:13 and this like .. 2=3 weeks Aug 26 12:34:15 I see :) Aug 26 12:34:19 and these people are recog devs heh Aug 26 12:34:34 LOL Aug 26 12:34:37 Can I make one quick off-topic comment please? Aug 26 12:34:38 this is a bit sad Aug 26 12:34:39 unfortunately it's not all up to me Aug 26 12:34:48 I do 100% agree with you though Aug 26 12:34:50 capychimp and his team, not to quote them Aug 26 12:34:53 :D Aug 26 12:34:58 lol Aug 26 12:35:08 many people who are RD are not necessarily the best in their field Aug 26 12:35:26 "but i never made any kernel !" Aug 26 12:35:32 "well .. before doing the fix, me neither .."| Aug 26 12:36:17 Wulfegang: go on Aug 26 12:36:18 ^^ Aug 26 12:36:53 Was just gonna say, if you like FPS games with cyberpunk you should play the new Dues Ex....it;s great :D Aug 26 12:37:00 * Wulfegang shuts up now Aug 26 12:40:00 ^^ Aug 26 12:50:29 Did I do something to get banned last night? I was asleep... Aug 26 12:53:15 Ironsight, nothing in the banlist about you Aug 26 12:53:18 why Aug 26 12:53:37 I was showing as "banned" this morning too, but it was my ZNC Aug 26 12:53:42 as I wasn't banned :P Aug 26 12:53:50 hrm Aug 26 12:54:21 anyone usin ubuntu chroot here? Aug 26 12:54:21 I woke up, looked at my chat, went to change my nick back from Adam_ to Ironsight, said, you can't do that you are banned Aug 26 12:54:50 if the channel was +m at the time that could be why, your client was just reporting the wrong reason Aug 26 12:54:57 ahh Aug 26 12:55:40 if channel is +m you can change your nick... Aug 26 12:55:48 trsomhers tweeted he was flashing his touchpad last night, wonder if that worked out for him Aug 26 12:56:17 someone briched their touchpad trying to install android Aug 26 12:56:21 bricked* Aug 26 12:56:35 they wrote places that shouldn't be overwritten :/ Aug 26 12:56:37 didn't think the thing was brickable with webos doctor Aug 26 12:56:47 ooh, they must have killed the bootloader Aug 26 12:57:15 Ironsight, yeah they did Aug 26 12:57:19 acfrazier: \o/ Aug 26 12:57:25 yes .. Aug 26 12:57:26 xD Aug 26 12:57:31 wb ProTekk Aug 26 12:57:39 luckily tho, he had 2 :) Aug 26 12:57:39 Flemmard i HATE THIS DAY! Aug 26 12:57:43 6 fucking machines failed! Aug 26 12:57:44 as long as you dont touch bootloader everything should be fine Aug 26 12:57:47 Personally I'm not going to flash mine at all, I'm looking to get into webos if and when they deliver mine from datavis Aug 26 12:57:48 6 raid arrays GONE1 Aug 26 12:57:54 what! Aug 26 12:57:58 and im getting the blame because the data is too far gone Aug 26 12:58:00 outch! Aug 26 12:58:02 jesus christ Aug 26 12:58:03 k1l: added a partition after lvm one, bam Aug 26 12:58:03 fuck Aug 26 12:58:16 6 raid arrays at the same time? Aug 26 12:58:18 holy crap Aug 26 12:58:20 LVM can be a cocksucker Aug 26 12:58:20 RAID screwing you over since 1987 Aug 26 12:58:45 Flemmard: all from the same batch Aug 26 12:58:49 and ironically enough Aug 26 12:58:52 Dell's Aug 26 12:59:10 so i just went into apeshit mode Aug 26 12:59:18 set up a gigabit switch Aug 26 12:59:26 threw one of our servers on it Aug 26 12:59:32 and reimaging them all with MDT Aug 26 12:59:42 20 minutes ETA for completion Aug 26 12:59:43 :) Aug 26 12:59:48 bawsss status Aug 26 12:59:59 hope you didn't lose any crucial shit Aug 26 13:00:01 :( Aug 26 13:00:12 Ironsight: we did lol Aug 26 13:00:16 these are developer machines Aug 26 13:00:21 plenty of code lost locally Aug 26 13:00:29 :( Aug 26 13:00:32 but they sync with SVN every 4 to 6 hours Aug 26 13:00:33 *clears throat. Good morning! Aug 26 13:00:39 so thats up to them to retrieve Aug 26 13:00:40 not me Aug 26 13:00:42 local svn? Aug 26 13:00:44 That's what you get for not checkin into to version control or a shared backup machine Aug 26 13:00:45 Ironsight: yupp Aug 26 13:00:49 :( Aug 26 13:00:55 Oh god, this is hilarious http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3711 Aug 26 13:01:08 hey Aug 26 13:01:10 so old Aug 26 13:01:12 We do tape backups on our servers (like a huge box full of tapes) every week Aug 26 13:01:12 i got 3 TP's coming Aug 26 13:01:14 right now Aug 26 13:01:14 like, not even funny Aug 26 13:01:16 fuck yea Aug 26 13:01:21 Did they all fail at the same time, same error? Aug 26 13:01:21 on the trucks for delivery! Aug 26 13:01:31 ProTekk, good deal! Aug 26 13:01:38 Wookiebush: the raid hardware looks like it had a shitfit Aug 26 13:01:43 and win 7 didnt like it Aug 26 13:01:54 think of it like spontaneous combustion Aug 26 13:01:57 vm? Aug 26 13:01:58 just happened and idk why lol Aug 26 13:02:05 Wookiebush: no vm Aug 26 13:02:12 ouch Aug 26 13:02:17 but fuck yea Aug 26 13:02:21 im on that boss status Aug 26 13:02:24 gigabit switch Aug 26 13:02:27 + reimaging Aug 26 13:02:34 local SVN they can sync with Aug 26 13:02:37 thats not my problem Aug 26 13:02:39 :) Aug 26 13:02:49 I wish Datavision would update my status Aug 26 13:02:55 been a week now Aug 26 13:03:10 Not a good sign... Aug 26 13:03:21 ok Aug 26 13:03:23 time to relax Aug 26 13:03:31 everything is automated from here on out :) Aug 26 13:03:40 glad i wrote everything for MDT in PowerShell Aug 26 13:03:43 So, back to touchpad, I ordered 1 from HP and one from onsale both on Sunday. Got my first response from HP last night and my onsale order is being delivered today. Onsale has better logistics than HP? Aug 26 13:03:44 http://xkcd.com/281/ <--- online tracking Aug 26 13:03:45 my god, saves soooo much time Aug 26 13:04:11 yeah it's totally that k1l Aug 26 13:04:11 xD Aug 26 13:04:14 k1l, yep.... I know what they mean lol Aug 26 13:04:38 HEY! Aug 26 13:04:44 I PLAY THAT GAME WITH NEWEGG! Aug 26 13:04:47 now it's *refresh* are they available now? *refresh* and now? *refresh* still no ? Aug 26 13:04:48 YOU GUYS PLAY TOO?! Aug 26 13:04:55 Is powershell kinda like bash? Aug 26 13:05:08 Ironsight: it's M$'s version i could say in a nutshell Aug 26 13:05:13 @Ironsight: with the power of the .NET framework behind it yes Aug 26 13:05:16 full of dotnet Aug 26 13:05:18 I never played with it much Aug 26 13:05:21 fuck .net Aug 26 13:05:27 lol M$, I haven't heard anyone say that in years Aug 26 13:05:28 takes like 5 minutes to start Aug 26 13:05:28 xD Aug 26 13:05:29 it's the bane of my work existance right now Aug 26 13:05:39 HAAAAATE .net Aug 26 13:05:41 @ProTekk lolwut? Aug 26 13:05:43 omg Aug 26 13:05:46 i was waiting for ups, looking at tracking: still at local delivery center, so i went for 10mins. to supermarket. coming back and having the missed delivery thing in my mailbox :X Aug 26 13:05:52 bash scripting is pretty fun shit Aug 26 13:05:57 and python Aug 26 13:06:07 im more perl Aug 26 13:06:08 Framework 4 has NOT played well with Win 7 x64 and SQL 2008 SP1 Aug 26 13:06:16 i hate it Aug 26 13:06:22 hate hate hate it Aug 26 13:06:23 Python + pygtk, make your shit happen with a couple of clicks Aug 26 13:06:23 Sorry br0 Aug 26 13:06:27 @ProTekk: What? That is the exact setup we use at work, with 150 developers Aug 26 13:06:34 Framework: it IS all your fault you know Aug 26 13:06:35 @ProTekk: What 'issues' Aug 26 13:07:01 =/ Aug 26 13:07:03 xaios: absolutely loves to fail to install half the time and every other message is "WARNING" or "ERROR" Aug 26 13:07:21 @ProTekk You guys don't image your work stations? Aug 26 13:07:25 are you lauching it with admin permissions Aug 26 13:07:25 What a waste of time Aug 26 13:07:26 could be the other software we use but fuck it, i do what im told Aug 26 13:07:28 xaios: we do Aug 26 13:07:34 i JUST set up MDT last week Aug 26 13:07:47 so im still in the early process of collecting and capturing images Aug 26 13:07:49 So you clean install once and deploy the image to developers... where's the issue again? Aug 26 13:08:03 ProTekk, our webserver also has SQL, but it's 2010, and we also have FW4 Aug 26 13:08:03 xaios: thats what the fuck i am doing right now lol Aug 26 13:08:30 happy now b00sted ? Aug 26 13:08:49 brb Aug 26 13:08:51 smoke break time Aug 26 13:08:54 channel aint even +m Aug 26 13:08:58 I thought you were working on recoverying a failed RAID array? Aug 26 13:08:59 why you voicing him? Aug 26 13:09:08 yay Aug 26 13:09:12 going to take a shit ton of them today just because they called me in on my day off Aug 26 13:09:19 farchord: apparently it's +m Aug 26 13:09:21 i dont feel alone anymore :O Aug 26 13:09:24 it's not +m Aug 26 13:09:27 it's not :) Aug 26 13:09:29 I'm off to work to go work on the error prone .NET Framework 4 and SQL 2008 SP1 apparently Aug 26 13:09:29 as i can speak Aug 26 13:09:30 ffs Aug 26 13:09:34 even peasants like me can talk Aug 26 13:09:36 then i was banned or something Aug 26 13:09:37 lol Aug 26 13:09:39 god damn it Aug 26 13:09:41 son of a bitch Aug 26 13:09:42 fuck it Aug 26 13:09:45 Status: Out for Delivery! Yay! Aug 26 13:09:46 lock that shit up quick Aug 26 13:09:51 don't let the peasants speak! Aug 26 13:09:52 i need a cigarette and good coffee Aug 26 13:10:04 Drawing of a touchpad being sold n ebay for 90k right now Aug 26 13:10:04 this god damn Shell gas station coffee is like luke warm piss Aug 26 13:10:13 old news. Aug 26 13:10:34 ROFL Aug 26 13:10:35 ProTekk, /mode #channel Ironsight: link? Aug 26 13:10:51 http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170687176878#ht_576wt_1396 Aug 26 13:11:10 Ironsight: someone is bidding on their own auction me thinks Aug 26 13:11:10 its for charity Aug 26 13:11:11 =-D Aug 26 13:11:24 oh god they are talking about the HP touchpad on talk radio Aug 26 13:11:26 KDKA Aug 26 13:11:35 lol Aug 26 13:11:40 hey Aug 26 13:11:45 at least the description is honest Aug 26 13:11:46 lol Aug 26 13:11:51 LOL ProTekk Aug 26 13:12:08 lol, leave again b00sted and you be fucked Aug 26 13:12:12 i love how that image you tweeted Aug 26 13:12:17 talks about memphis Aug 26 13:12:18 lol Aug 26 13:12:32 he is muted anyway. Aug 26 13:12:36 I know Aug 26 13:12:37 That guy is going to make it out of college easy Aug 26 13:12:39 :) Aug 26 13:12:42 because a ban without a kick is = mute Aug 26 13:12:46 that guy won't need college Aug 26 13:12:54 as he can survive off that if he is smart :P Aug 26 13:12:55 you can buy a house for that Aug 26 13:13:02 if you are smart and use it wisely Aug 26 13:13:06 you could start a small business Aug 26 13:13:09 and be successful Aug 26 13:13:10 :) Aug 26 13:13:20 what is ProTekk's twitter Aug 26 13:13:22 use that money to buy the rest of the stock of touchpads, then sell for 200 Aug 26 13:13:42 double yer cash Aug 26 13:13:43 acfrazier Aug 26 13:13:49 acfrazier: @ProTekkFZS Aug 26 13:13:49 it's not @protekk, that's some guy who last tweeted in 2009 lol Aug 26 13:13:53 http://www.twitter.com/Framework43 Aug 26 13:13:54 :P Aug 26 13:13:54 thanks Aug 26 13:14:12 http://www.facebook.com/protekk for those who want to truly stalk me Aug 26 13:14:15 b00sted, you can't talk for 2 reasons. 1- Your nick aint registered. 2- You are banned. Aug 26 13:14:22 now stop pming me. Aug 26 13:14:30 he pmed me too Aug 26 13:14:33 as if I can do anything Aug 26 13:14:34 lulz Aug 26 13:14:52 deadmau5 is amazing Aug 26 13:15:12 Framework: deadmau5 is a fucking faggot Aug 26 13:15:14 listen to real music Aug 26 13:15:19 Fuck you. Aug 26 13:15:21 loool Aug 26 13:15:34 how about some Goa? Aug 26 13:15:40 or some vocal trance Aug 26 13:15:45 or jungle Aug 26 13:15:49 or dub Aug 26 13:15:56 how come I have never heard of any of those genres Aug 26 13:16:06 acfrazier: because you live in a fucking murky basement Aug 26 13:16:07 thats why Aug 26 13:16:16 Harry Potter sucks Aug 26 13:16:25 harry potter does suck Aug 26 13:16:29 it got old in the fifth grade. Aug 26 13:16:52 THIS is real music Aug 26 13:16:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUd75mo3910 Aug 26 13:17:09 * Wulfegang is listening to Jem (not the 80's cartoon) and Hurt Aug 26 13:17:17 and THIS is real music as well Aug 26 13:17:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=515bAUjx_I4 Aug 26 13:18:08 * Ironsight is listening to fake music (gummy bear cd for my 12 month) Aug 26 13:18:17 yuck Aug 26 13:18:19 fuck you guys Aug 26 13:18:20 ill brb Aug 26 13:18:24 * b00sted pokes Aug 26 13:18:24 <3333333333333 Aug 26 13:18:27 <3 Aug 26 13:18:39 * b00sted does sexy dance Aug 26 13:19:05 lemme guess, didnt ident? Aug 26 13:19:24 >_> been a bit since I did the whole irc thing Aug 26 13:19:31 lol Aug 26 13:24:37 hp just changed my delivery date Aug 26 13:24:47 my touchpad will be delivered the 14th of september lol Aug 26 13:25:01 lol Aug 26 13:25:02 awesome Aug 26 13:25:04 bet that makes you sad in the pants Aug 26 13:25:20 Flemmard, have you or anyone else looked at u-boot Aug 26 13:25:26 I am starting to look at HP's sources etc Aug 26 13:25:32 it appears to be quite an old version Aug 26 13:25:34 no really Aug 26 13:25:41 they didn't charge me, however Aug 26 13:25:45 ok Aug 26 13:25:46 they also dropped the hold on my account Aug 26 13:25:58 I'm trying to figure out if there's much change of this working Aug 26 13:28:08 i be back son Aug 26 13:28:48 w00t! Aug 26 13:28:49 Aug 26, 2011 6:48 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery Aug 26 13:29:17 I see why you guys had that many failing RAID arrays now Aug 26 13:29:34 grats Protekk Aug 26 13:30:09 Wulfegang: tym :) Aug 26 13:30:19 gots 3 'o dem bitches coming Aug 26 13:30:42 nias Aug 26 13:33:32 rwhitby: is there a way to make webos doctor not to reformat ext3fs ? Aug 26 13:33:46 interesting document: http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf Aug 26 13:34:52 Flemmard: in general, it doesn't Aug 26 13:34:57 well Aug 26 13:34:57 it does Aug 26 13:35:16 did you change the partition sizes? Aug 26 13:35:19 no Aug 26 13:35:21 wait.. Aug 26 13:35:27 gingerbread for qualcomm dev board. Aug 26 13:35:28 i just enabled ext3 2gb etc in meta-doctor Aug 26 13:35:38 does this dev board have similar hardware to the TP Aug 26 13:36:24 [15:31:51] i just enabled ext3 2gb etc in meta-doctor <<< i enables 4GB for ubuntu chroot :D 2gb and testing gnome - not good Aug 26 13:36:33 acfrazier, Aug 26 13:36:37 almost identical Aug 26 13:36:38 :) Aug 26 13:36:41 http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf Aug 26 13:36:48 that is the stuff for the same dev-board Aug 26 13:36:48 Flemmard: oh, did you modify your topaz.xml for reformat="false" ? Aug 26 13:36:53 as this tablet is based on Aug 26 13:36:56 rwhitby: im doing it now :) Aug 26 13:37:09 same CPU etc, acfrazier Aug 26 13:37:12 same GPU and hardware Aug 26 13:37:16 just another name Aug 26 13:37:30 hm. Aug 26 13:37:37 which msm is this? Aug 26 13:37:39 8660 Aug 26 13:37:53 Aug 26 13:37:53 Aug 26 13:37:54 hm, 3 of their gingerbread releases support this Aug 26 13:37:56 8060 I think Aug 26 13:38:05 what Flemmard said :P Aug 26 13:38:11 it's what topaz.xml says Aug 26 13:38:14 so i think it's right :p Aug 26 13:38:17 * Pulser should concentrate on one thing at a time :P Aug 26 13:38:25 Creating Custom Drivers for the Aug 26 13:38:25 Snapdragon® APQ8060 DragonBoard Aug 26 13:38:28 that's 8060 mind... Aug 26 13:38:41 right, but the link says 8660 Aug 26 13:38:42 Flemmard: I've added a note to the meta-doctor documentation that any existing ext3fs partition will be reformatted. Aug 26 13:38:47 :) Aug 26 13:38:58 oh and btw, the bypass options hangs during patch Aug 26 13:38:59 acfrazier, wait a sec, it seems that the touchpad uses 8060 Aug 26 13:39:02 * Pulser thinks that is right Aug 26 13:39:07 Flemmard: bypass activation is only for phones Aug 26 13:39:13 ok ^^ that's why Aug 26 13:39:37 but for 8660, earliest release ie Eclair, latest is Gingerbread. Aug 26 13:39:46 Flemmard: added that note too Aug 26 13:39:50 :) Aug 26 13:40:09 always good to have new users to find assumed knowlege Aug 26 13:40:14 knowledge even Aug 26 13:40:28 yes Aug 26 13:40:41 and im a little tired of trying/reflashing each time i make crap :p Aug 26 13:40:42 acfrazier, you sure? Aug 26 13:40:47 Estimated delivery Aug 27, 2011 Aug 26 13:40:48 :/ Aug 26 13:40:51 this is what it's saying Aug 26 13:40:53 I am fairly certain it SHIPS with gingerbread on it Aug 26 13:40:56 let me double check Aug 26 13:41:02 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 26 13:41:04 scroll down. Aug 26 13:41:22 kk Aug 26 13:41:31 Flemmard: if the folk here prefer it, we can move meta-doctor discussion to #webos-internals Aug 26 13:42:11 acfrazier, Aug 26 13:42:14 am I missing something? Aug 26 13:42:15 gingerbread msm7627, msm7627a, msm7630, msm8660, msm8660_csfb, msm8960 Aug 26 13:42:16 weird. on that list, the latest gingerbread release was compiled on March 31.. why would they have Froyo on dev devices then Aug 26 13:42:24 you guys fine rwhitby Aug 26 13:42:29 it looks to me like it would work with Gingerbread stuff there Aug 26 13:42:31 rwhitby : okay, sorry :) Aug 26 13:42:52 Flemmard: you can always find me there if I have to leave here again Aug 26 13:42:59 np Aug 26 13:43:03 :) Aug 26 13:43:09 bitches, please Aug 26 13:44:11 acfrazier, Aug 26 13:44:12 March 31, 2011 M8660AAABQNLYA2140 msm8660 gingerbread M8660AAABQNLYA2140.xml Aug 26 13:44:19 looks like it's gingerbread to me then Aug 26 13:44:27 are we looking at the same thing? Aug 26 13:44:45 acfrazier: it's not a dev device Aug 26 13:44:52 geez, does no-one listen? Aug 26 13:44:54 man this tv show rocks Aug 26 13:44:59 how about a chat channel for the community thats not dev related? Sometimes like-minded folks just like to BS. I started #touchdroid-chat. Come on in, the water is fine. Aug 26 13:45:21 rwhitby, I was thinking some of that might be a start for on-board hardware, but I don't know if it was revised etc Aug 26 13:45:23 Wookiebush, to quote jb, anything that is not this channel is off topic. Aug 26 13:45:29 rwhitby: good morning sir Aug 26 13:45:54 Wookiebush, #touchpad ? Aug 26 13:45:55 yeha, flash running under ubuntuchroot Aug 26 13:46:00 folks. look at the Android TouchPad image. Notice the app "Production Test Tool". That app does not appear on a development board image. There is only one conclusion that can be drawn from that, and it makes the use of that android image obvious. Aug 26 13:46:08 tomorrow i will have to test ubuntu-netbook Aug 26 13:46:28 is there such a thing? Aug 26 13:46:30 just a shot Aug 26 13:46:30 hmmm... indeed, it's evidently, as you said earlier, not a dev board... Aug 26 13:46:37 anybody else have HP send you an order confirmation then release the hold on funds in your account? Aug 26 13:46:45 well, it wouldn't really be in a tablet shell :P Aug 26 13:46:56 rwest: HP didn't do that to me but sams club did Aug 26 13:47:01 it's clearly a normal touchpad from the factory production line Aug 26 13:47:05 rwest, not I. they took and claimed. Aug 26 13:47:09 got $330+ back but it'll disappear again shortly Aug 26 13:47:12 yes rwhitby Aug 26 13:47:20 hence they slipped into the supply chain somehow Aug 26 13:47:26 I would be intrigued to know how that happened Aug 26 13:47:30 I hope they didn't cancel my 2nd order, it wad before the cutoff time Aug 26 13:47:47 well, when you're doing a fire sale of a million devices, one or two mistakes are going to be made Aug 26 13:47:58 sure Aug 26 13:48:01 Pulser, my guess is touchpads were given to X to put Android on, they did, HP wanted them back, they were suppose to put WebOS back on and never did Aug 26 13:48:04 I am guessing HP had them in their posession Aug 26 13:48:14 Blame interns Aug 26 13:48:17 and thus shipped them Aug 26 13:48:17 lol Aug 26 13:48:44 TheRabbit: didn't you just see what I wrote? "Production Test Tool" Aug 26 13:49:09 rwhitby, Production Test Tool can mean alot of things Aug 26 13:49:15 I am wondering, as otherwise HP wouldn't have had them in their posession imo Aug 26 13:49:26 so I am guessing they were given back by QC to HP Aug 26 13:49:38 the question is why QC were having some android-related fun with them... Aug 26 13:49:42 well order status says est ship date: 11-Sep-2011 Aug 26 13:49:42 * rwhitby gives up. it's clearly too difficult a concept Aug 26 13:49:45 so long Aug 26 13:49:52 rwest, that is a long time Aug 26 13:50:00 rwhitby, how far it was off drawing board to production is question we can answer Aug 26 13:50:03 * Wulfegang comforts rwhitby Aug 26 13:50:20 stuff can be moved to let's test producing these things and after trying or marketing looks at data, it never goes anywhere Aug 26 13:50:47 Look in the image. The evidence is clear. Aug 26 13:51:14 @rwhitby Apparently they don't have the skill to Aug 26 13:51:16 rwhitby, I'm not developer, and haven't downloaded the image, what do you think? Aug 26 13:51:51 did the qualcomm image has the android market? Aug 26 13:51:55 hahah my "cancelled" order has a ship date of the 29th Aug 26 13:51:57 wtf Aug 26 13:52:03 O.o Aug 26 13:52:12 My guess is some people at HP/QC decided that WebOS had no future but hardware was good and Android was good fit for them and it had moved to "Can we put Android on this?" to "We can, let's look into making them" Aug 26 13:52:12 sirana: why would you have android market on a production test image ? Aug 26 13:52:28 lol Aug 26 13:52:53 you think the factory workers are going to be installing angry birds? Aug 26 13:52:54 to legally use android market Aug 26 13:53:01 you have to get handset approved by google Aug 26 13:53:07 which involves type-testing and approvals Aug 26 13:53:13 then you can "legitimately" use the market with it Aug 26 13:53:25 unless you are going into production you wouldn't go through that Aug 26 13:53:31 sigh Aug 26 13:53:44 [15:49:15] you think the factory workers are going to be installing angry birds? <<< why not? :D Aug 26 13:53:47 ie. I am going to sell these, I must therefore talk to google and say "can I sell these?" Aug 26 13:54:22 rwhitby, No, I'm curious, What do you think? Aug 26 13:54:48 you're all idiots and amazing at speculation...it's just about that time where you all need to shut the hell up at this point and say "Fuck, I'm still breathing. What the fuck am I doing arguing on IRC about something that is just a phase and will be forgotten about within a week? I need a girlfriend *sigh*" Aug 26 13:55:07 I have fiance, I'm at work dealing with stupid boss who won't shutdown customers Aug 26 13:55:12 .....or boyfriend, depending on the case. Aug 26 13:55:16 so soon i'll be married and need a girlfriend again ;) Aug 26 13:55:31 hah Aug 26 13:55:45 Know how your girlfriend is getting fat? She doesn't fit into your wifes clothes anymore. Aug 26 13:55:46 oh, boot loop. Aug 26 13:55:47 farchord: there are no women on the internet...just 19/f/CA that are actually 40/m/mothers basement Aug 26 13:56:12 ProTekk: Doesn't mean some of those 40/m/mothers basements don't need/want boyfriends. Aug 26 13:56:20 Icehawk78: haha Aug 26 13:56:23 point made Aug 26 13:56:24 ProTekk, well no I was more saying about.... people not playing for the same team.... not saying I am, but y'know, being current s'all XD Aug 26 13:56:24 ;) Aug 26 13:56:31 lmao Aug 26 13:57:00 ok, someone put a file listing of the image online somewhere, and I'll point the unambiguous evidence out to you. Aug 26 13:57:22 good luck :p Aug 26 13:57:23 http://pastebin.com/WFkur8vh Aug 26 13:57:39 farchord: file listing, not partition list Aug 26 13:57:46 ahhhhh. Aug 26 13:57:48 Sorry. Aug 26 13:58:01 that list will be pretty damn long Aug 26 13:58:27 ls -lR > pastebin Aug 26 13:58:57 doesn't mean it isn't gonna be long lol Aug 26 13:59:04 just the rootfs or /system or whatever it's called in Android Aug 26 14:00:36 no-one here can do that in this time? Aug 26 14:00:52 noone here cares enough to be honest. Aug 26 14:01:09 np Aug 26 14:01:12 rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/mJhvd5st Aug 26 14:01:27 seems short Aug 26 14:01:30 Or I guess someone does Aug 26 14:01:40 rwest: contents of fixture.txt please. I bet it's information about a factory test station Aug 26 14:01:57 [detail] Aug 26 14:01:57 wifi_fixture=WIFI030608 Aug 26 14:01:57 re_cal= Aug 26 14:01:57 fixture=FAF8030804 Aug 26 14:01:57 fail_date= Aug 26 14:02:00 fail_station= Aug 26 14:02:02 error_code= Aug 26 14:02:05 fail_count=0 Aug 26 14:02:07 test_fixture=FAF8030804 Aug 26 14:02:10 re_cal_count=-1 Aug 26 14:02:19 dl it yourself for anymore imo Aug 26 14:02:19 yep, classic factory QA information Aug 26 14:02:42 rwest: I prefer not to participate in illegal redistribution of HP factory test apps Aug 26 14:02:48 rwest, use pastebin please. Aug 26 14:02:49 ... Aug 26 14:03:33 note the apps in /bin from lines 83, 84, 85, 108-113, 171-187, etc Aug 26 14:03:42 252 to 255 Aug 26 14:03:59 408 in particular Aug 26 14:04:08 and 422 Aug 26 14:04:17 it's definietly a test device Aug 26 14:04:40 no, it's a factory test image for every single touchpad that came off the production line Aug 26 14:05:11 to test if device is faulty or npot Aug 26 14:05:12 ?> Aug 26 14:05:49 mmmm network timeout Aug 26 14:05:50 863, 868, 873 and 874 prove it's for testing webOS Aug 26 14:06:29 unpack the android.test.runner.jar for more proof Aug 26 14:06:45 and framework-tests.jar Aug 26 14:06:54 rwest: jsut some question about meta-doctor, if you mind ? Aug 26 14:07:56 Flemmard: rwest or rwhitby ? Aug 26 14:08:03 Flemmard: haven't used it yet, no device Aug 26 14:08:13 rwhitby sorry ^^ Aug 26 14:08:50 Flemmard: sure, any time. Aug 26 14:09:30 rwhitby: at which moment may i edit topaz.xml, after unpack? after patch? Aug 26 14:09:49 Flemmard: best is after patch and before pack Aug 26 14:10:11 Flemmard: if you're not touching topaz.xml with other options, between unpack and patch is fine too Aug 26 14:10:15 ok Aug 26 14:10:22 or i just add reformat="false" in Makefile Aug 26 14:10:24 ^^ Aug 26 14:10:37 Flemmard: yeah, I can put an option in for that if you like Aug 26 14:10:48 well it can be useful Aug 26 14:10:58 for other users ^^ Aug 26 14:11:16 yeah, I might use that myself if I need to reflash my touchpad without losing the Ubuntu chroot Aug 26 14:11:22 yes Aug 26 14:11:33 and find a way to get rid of the fuckin init thing :( Aug 26 14:11:56 Flemmard: which init thing? Aug 26 14:12:00 well Aug 26 14:12:05 where you put your webos account etc Aug 26 14:12:14 oh, that's bypass first use Aug 26 14:12:20 well Aug 26 14:12:26 not bypass activation Aug 26 14:12:27 you told me that bypass is only for phones ? Aug 26 14:12:31 oh Aug 26 14:12:33 okay Aug 26 14:12:36 bypass activation will hang on a tablet build Aug 26 14:12:56 okay :) Aug 26 14:13:14 thanks for the precision Aug 26 14:13:19 (sorry im a noob about this ^^) Aug 26 14:14:00 Flemmard: if you have suggestions for the doco in the Makefile to make it clearer for new users, feel free to suggest. Aug 26 14:14:14 making an 'external' settings thing? Aug 26 14:14:17 o.O Aug 26 14:14:18 that you include in your makefile ? Aug 26 14:14:26 rwhitby, just from what I was listening into, how about Aug 26 14:14:26 because at first i dont edit makefiles Aug 26 14:14:29 but config files Aug 26 14:14:41 you see my point ? Aug 26 14:15:09 Flemmard: what we usually do is create a meta-script in the scripts directory Aug 26 14:15:18 okay Aug 26 14:15:24 make blabla=bla Aug 26 14:15:26 end-users don't often play with the options themselves, but just run a pre-tested script Aug 26 14:15:29 yes ok Aug 26 14:15:34 "By default, meta-doctor will format the EXT3 filesystems on the device during the installation process. If you have a reason not to do this (such as wishing to use meta-doctor without overwriting existing data such as a chroot ubuntu partition), you can enable this option Aug 26 14:15:44 :) Aug 26 14:16:06 where is the README ! Aug 26 14:16:06 :p Aug 26 14:16:16 Otherwise you should leave this setting to false, which is the default Aug 26 14:16:35 Flemmard: it starts at line 21 in the Makefile. Aug 26 14:16:38 yeah Aug 26 14:16:42 i know Aug 26 14:16:44 but as i said Aug 26 14:16:49 and the wiki page points you there Aug 26 14:16:52 my first thing is *not* to open makefile :p Aug 26 14:17:05 but search if theres a readme or one sort of config file Aug 26 14:17:19 you see what i mean ? Aug 26 14:17:25 third line of http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Aug 26 14:17:34 in bold even ;) Aug 26 14:17:58 it was just an idea eh :) Aug 26 14:18:13 yep, suggestions taken on board Aug 26 14:18:34 and a misformed Makefile is so easily done :) Aug 26 14:19:33 yeah, I'm still waiting for the people who say they are going to do a cross-platform Linux/Mac/Windows GUI version of the Meta-Doctor. They never seem to keep up with the feature set. Aug 26 14:20:44 yea i see Aug 26 14:21:51 rwhitby: why not (just for 'user easier') a script thhat asks you waht you want? Aug 26 14:22:02 like if you want to add ext partition, bypass, .. Aug 26 14:22:08 Keeping up with the feature set is "hard" rwhitby. You keep changing it. I have done a design for a gui that uses meta-data to control the meta-doctor's meta-data so that it's configurable, but it's not trivial Aug 26 14:22:35 rboatright: yeah, the things we need to do with it is a changing target Aug 26 14:23:06 next thing folks will want is to use the webOS 2.1.0 kernel from the Pre 2 with a webOS 2.2.0 userspace from the Pre 3 to upgrade their Pre 2 to latest firmware. Aug 26 14:23:34 jyxent Aug 26 14:23:43 jY- Aug 26 14:23:47 libfreerdpchanma Aug 26 14:23:49 wow.... Counter-Strike: Global Offensive will look pretty nice Aug 26 14:24:05 farchord: new CS game? Aug 26 14:24:06 really? Aug 26 14:24:11 ya Aug 26 14:24:20 WHAT?! Aug 26 14:24:33 i wanna play some 1.6 or CZ right now lol Aug 26 14:24:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN93xXfews4 Aug 26 14:25:46 make new with old ^^ Aug 26 14:26:54 but i dont know how people can play FPS with a console Aug 26 14:27:05 with a pad Aug 26 14:27:14 actually new version of CS will support keyb/mouse on the ps3 Aug 26 14:28:14 oh okay Aug 26 14:29:10 im not a hughe fan of consoles ^^ Aug 26 14:29:24 i only got snes and dreamcast \o/ Aug 26 14:30:03 oh yeah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbfVmzF7N4g&feature=fvst Aug 26 14:30:57 I used to have every N,S,A console Aug 26 14:31:09 n s a ? Aug 26 14:31:18 Ninetendo, Sega, Atari Aug 26 14:31:22 :) Aug 26 14:31:27 haha, anyone here played Final Fantasy 13? Aug 26 14:32:15 hi Aug 26 14:32:27 * fnj00 crickets crickets Aug 26 14:32:36 nope Aug 26 14:34:41 farchord: I have Aug 26 14:37:03 andre_pl, I was laughing at a comment someone made on a youtube video, "Vanille better not be back, she kept making sex noises every minute, everyone thought I was watching porn" Aug 26 14:37:23 that made me laugh lol Aug 26 14:37:52 ah, nevermind then :P Aug 26 14:38:34 I play ffX and ffXII in pcsx2 on this laptop :/ Aug 26 14:39:02 Just beat ff1 on psp, 90 percent done with ff2 Aug 26 14:39:05 ditto, I downloaded the International version of FFX Aug 26 14:39:20 PIRATES! Aug 26 14:39:21 I also play Final Fantasy Dissidia Duodecim on my PSP, religiously Aug 26 14:39:32 rwest, I bought FFX US Aug 26 14:39:37 But International's better Aug 26 14:39:42 I actually didn't pirate, I used dvddecrypt to rip my paid for dvd's :) Aug 26 14:40:02 Well, I pirated mine haha Aug 26 14:40:10 PIRATE! Aug 26 14:40:21 Just like I run wii games I own on my laptop aswell Aug 26 14:40:22 :) Aug 26 14:40:28 mostly gamecube though Aug 26 14:40:35 You FILTHY scum of the sea! Aug 26 14:40:47 lol Aug 26 14:40:53 Gamecube games don't require the stupid wii mote Aug 26 14:41:02 heh Aug 26 14:41:29 (mostly twilight princess gamecube) Aug 26 14:41:50 that game title makes me think of some vampire tween Aug 26 14:41:58 my htpc has like 400 720p movies and like 150 psx games Aug 26 14:42:28 I use my psp for psx Aug 26 14:42:43 I just like playing them on my tv Aug 26 14:42:47 4.5TB fileserver at home full Aug 26 14:42:57 yea I need to add more storage Aug 26 14:43:02 I can play them on my tv Aug 26 14:43:08 I have the component cable Aug 26 14:43:19 gotta buy a bigger raid card, 7 drives and a new case with more slots Aug 26 14:43:51 rwest's computer, in a few days: http://histoire.info.online.fr/images/eniac4.jpeg Aug 26 14:43:52 :) Aug 26 14:44:03 LOL Aug 26 14:44:06 1.8T 1.7T 70G 97% /mnt/data Aug 26 14:44:08 QQ Aug 26 14:44:34 hp touchpad beta Aug 26 14:44:48 this one actually ran webos like a boss Aug 26 14:44:52 lol Aug 26 14:45:19 if one light goes out, THEY ALL GO OUT! Aug 26 14:45:45 Is the Android 2.2 available now? Aug 26 14:46:13 I think definitely the Android 3.1 will work on touchpad Aug 26 14:46:20 IndarKness.. first: say Hi/hello ... second: read topic ... Aug 26 14:46:27 Puccini rom is out Aug 26 14:46:29 msm8660 Aug 26 14:46:35 And3.1 Aug 26 14:46:40 so yeah probably .. Aug 26 14:46:50 •IndarKness• your wayyyyy behind android is on 3.X now http://www.android.com/ Aug 26 14:47:19 Flemmard link? Aug 26 14:47:25 sirana: hello~~~ Aug 26 14:47:26 fnj00: he obv meant on touchpad Aug 26 14:47:37 sirana: http://www.filefactory.com/file/cd23346/n/PG09IMG_Puccini_LTE_Cingular_US_1.17.502.3_Radio_1.04.550I.15v2_30.60.550I.10_release_210183_signed.zip Aug 26 14:47:43 needs to specify Aug 26 14:47:50 all i heard was is android 2.2 out yet? Aug 26 14:47:59 Flemmard, et je vois je ne suis pas le seul francophone ici.... Aug 26 14:47:59 it is the touchdroid channel heh Aug 26 14:48:00 I know the news of dump... just don't know whether the image it is finished Aug 26 14:48:08 so... Aug 26 14:48:09 farchord: comment tu as deviné? :p Aug 26 14:48:24 nous devons parler francais! Aug 26 14:48:24 Stupid questions get stupid answers lol Aug 26 14:48:25 Flemmard is it possible to flash? Aug 26 14:48:26 Flemmard, le lien vers le super ordinateur.... histoire.fr Aug 26 14:48:32 sirana: no no, it's RUU ^^ Aug 26 14:48:48 farchord: ah, je pensais a cause de mon pseudo .. le lien c'est juste une recherche google image sur 'eniac' :) Aug 26 14:49:02 sirana: you can only flash it if you have the Puccini XD Aug 26 14:49:16 Ouais mais google.fr pogne tjrs les liens en fr en premier lol Aug 26 14:49:20 hrm Aug 26 14:49:35 farchord: québequois? Aug 26 14:49:42 Ouaip. Aug 26 14:49:51 ok (le 'pogne' t'as trahi :p) Aug 26 14:51:18 Anyway, sorry about the french, people Aug 26 14:51:24 I know most americans hate french XD Aug 26 14:51:33 yeah ^^ Aug 26 14:51:34 not only the americans... Aug 26 14:51:37 i hate it too :D Aug 26 14:51:47 [troll] farchord: msot americans doesnt even know where france is[/troll] Aug 26 14:51:47 lol Aug 26 14:51:54 lol Aug 26 14:51:55 heh Aug 26 14:52:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPKSw1OeK2w Aug 26 14:52:14 "Is that the lil thing on the left of Iraq? Aug 26 14:52:19 I know where france is...lol Aug 26 14:52:36 :p Aug 26 14:53:00 ... Aug 26 14:53:05 Flemmard, but then, most people who actually hate french people only know one word of french: "Baguette" Aug 26 14:53:13 anything usefule to be learned from the puccini rom? Aug 26 14:53:14 So he says it's a troll, and you still try to prove yourself? Aug 26 14:53:19 o_O Aug 26 14:53:39 synace: not atm :) Aug 26 14:53:43 farchord: i would have gone with bonjour personally Aug 26 14:53:53 nhat, hehe :) Aug 26 14:53:57 -.- Aug 26 14:54:12 * roadkill starts looking for the banhammer that squeaks when you hit something Aug 26 14:54:13 isn't France somehow related to suzy's underpants? Aug 26 14:54:23 aer you guys quebecois or real frenchies? Aug 26 14:54:36 Can people install android 2.x to touchpad now? can people install 3.x now? Aug 26 14:54:42 IndarKness no Aug 26 14:54:43 IndarKness: No. Aug 26 14:54:45 no & no Aug 26 14:54:49 roadkill, hey hey now, put that thing away.... Aug 26 14:54:50 XD Aug 26 14:54:52 c u l8r all Aug 26 14:55:00 if we could, the internet would blow up with news Aug 26 14:55:52 If touchpad can install 3.x now... acer and samsung would feel a lot of pressure for a short time Aug 26 14:56:01 no they won't lol Aug 26 14:56:04 roadkill, so how are you on this fine morning? Aug 26 14:56:05 there are no more touchpads to sell Aug 26 14:56:14 You'd think that at the rate information travels these days, online news blog sites would have announcement that we've got Android ready to flash on Touchpads before we actually know it ourselves. Aug 26 14:56:47 farchord: Waiting for my Walmart package to get delivered. Aug 26 14:56:59 roadkill, lemme guess. Touchpad? Aug 26 14:57:05 Touchstone and case. Aug 26 14:57:18 i need a case for my touchpad Aug 26 14:57:23 Touchstone? Wont that scratch it? Aug 26 14:57:41 if you ask 10 people about the progress on touchdroid I bet you'd get 10 different answers Aug 26 14:57:42 nah, that's the HP TouchZOMGKEEPTHATTHINGAWAYFROMIT Aug 26 14:57:57 nhat: http://www.reddit.com/r/webos/comments/js6y7/best_accessories_for_your_touchpad/c2epuf7?context=3 - Pick one. Cheap. Aug 26 14:58:47 King_Wataba, and strangely enough, one of those 10 answers strangely have something to do with cheese. Aug 26 14:58:52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/280728077111 - I ordered one of these, too. They seemed a lot more sturdy than some of the "leatheroid" type cases shipping from Hong Kong Aug 26 15:00:01 do all the developers have there own toupad yet? Aug 26 15:00:11 no Aug 26 15:00:12 farachord does webos name their OS after cheeses? Aug 26 15:00:17 lol Aug 26 15:00:26 no idea, but I doubt so Aug 26 15:09:35 rwest: That's changed. There's essentially no dev without a device because those without devices aren't devs anymore. Aug 26 15:11:27 I stand corrected Aug 26 15:11:59 uhh roadkill wat Aug 26 15:20:33 Oh that's a good song.... "Have you ever seen the rain" by CCR Aug 26 15:21:11 http://touchdroid.isitreadyyet.info/ Aug 26 15:21:47 lol Aug 26 15:22:04 just bought isitreadyyet.info, might be the greatest idea ive had Aug 26 15:22:26 lol Aug 26 15:22:31 Agreed. But you need a Lex Luthor-ish face, saying NO! Aug 26 15:24:30 Throw some adsence up in this bitch, then setup a free domain registration so everyone can get a free blah.isitreadyyet.info page, all the page will have is either YES or NO and my ads... Aug 26 15:25:02 lol Aug 26 15:26:00 .win 34 Aug 26 15:26:42 fnj00: You know the internet is done when single word websites have ads. Aug 26 15:28:21 abp ftw Aug 26 15:33:10 hooray my /win 28 Aug 26 15:33:13 woops Aug 26 15:33:15 :D Aug 26 15:34:07 trsohmers, well good morning sir. Aug 26 15:35:58 G'morning Aug 26 15:36:49 heh. Aug 26 15:37:02 Anything fun any exciting happen? Aug 26 15:37:11 we're alive :) Aug 26 15:37:11 isanythingfunhappening.com > NO! Aug 26 15:37:19 roadkill lol Aug 26 15:37:28 * roadkill checks to see if that domain is regged Aug 26 15:37:38 fuuuu Aug 26 15:37:39 me first Aug 26 15:37:41 If not, go and buy it Aug 26 15:37:42 haha Aug 26 15:38:07 doesn't look like it's regged. Aug 26 15:38:09 hrmm. Aug 26 15:38:09 isanythingfunhappening.com Aug 26 15:38:14 yep its open Aug 26 15:38:21 do not want, too long Aug 26 15:38:30 heh Aug 26 15:38:32 now a .info would be better, since you are providing info Aug 26 15:38:39 .... Aug 26 15:39:39 whatshappening.info Aug 26 15:40:18 Or maybe .whatshappening.info Aug 26 15:42:27 Thanks. Aug 26 15:45:32 this is my domain Aug 26 15:45:38 yodafool.com Aug 26 15:45:45 youdafool.com Aug 26 15:45:47 is empty now Aug 26 15:45:59 but at one point i was having a prank war woith my gff Aug 26 15:46:10 calling each other fools in the most elaborate way Aug 26 15:46:25 and she made tshirts Aug 26 15:46:34 and gave them to all the people i knew Aug 26 15:46:43 with a pic of me and it say you da fool Aug 26 15:46:48 so i made a website Aug 26 15:46:52 and did the same Aug 26 15:46:57 lol Aug 26 15:47:06 better mood this morning I take it? ;) Aug 26 15:47:15 no Aug 26 15:47:18 im still raging Aug 26 15:47:22 im still tp less Aug 26 15:47:25 ssh admin@192.168.78.26 Aug 26 15:47:28 fail Aug 26 15:47:30 im still out 160$ Aug 26 15:47:47 and im still fixing everyones fuck ups Aug 26 15:47:51 rwest: nice Aug 26 15:48:13 but im just not in the mood to be raging at this specific moment Aug 26 15:48:29 SamCripp, yeah i'm kind of pissed at B&N. i wont be able to get my money back for two weeks. Aug 26 15:48:35 HA WE HAVE YOUR IP NOW RWEST, HACK ENSUING Aug 26 15:48:45 hp.com has shipped my other tp though and i should have it tomorrow according to fedex. Aug 26 15:48:46 lol Aug 26 15:48:47 #/sarcasm Aug 26 15:49:13 sCr|pTiC-, i hate you Aug 26 15:49:19 im a poor dev Aug 26 15:49:26 so i could only afford ordering one Aug 26 15:49:35 and got screwd Aug 26 15:49:43 is okay i think i said this story too much Aug 26 15:49:47 by now im boring Aug 26 15:49:56 SamCripp, me too. I just ended up spending my 4 kids lunch money for the month. Now their eating top roman everyday. Aug 26 15:50:04 JK! Aug 26 15:50:11 lol Aug 26 15:50:31 LOL Aug 26 15:50:33 http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/samsung-accidentally-confirmed-the-nexus-prime-20110825/ Aug 26 15:50:42 oops Aug 26 15:50:42 sCr|pTiC-: lies, you're serious Aug 26 15:50:44 wrong channel Aug 26 15:52:08 the only thing, making my day brighter Aug 26 15:52:14 is the fact that ima sell my car Aug 26 15:52:16 man I was so googling CPS atm Aug 26 15:52:19 move to florida Aug 26 15:52:35 and Counter Strike Global Offensive looks good Aug 26 15:54:12 Only reason they are doing CS:GO is because they still haven't finished HL2:E3 Aug 26 15:54:27 that makes no sense Aug 26 15:54:37 splitting resources is slower development Aug 26 15:54:42 They have multiple development teams Aug 26 15:55:02 They were developing Episode 2, Portal, and Left For Dead concurrently Aug 26 15:55:11 I still don't understand how EP3 could be taking so long if they were able to do a full sequel in Portal 2... and that game itself was fraught with issues. They scrappd a prequel and restarted from scratch. Aug 26 15:55:38 Portal is 5 hours worth of gameplay Aug 26 15:55:42 its easier Aug 26 15:55:45 well Aug 26 15:55:48 faster Aug 26 15:55:55 the reason why they make counter stroke go first is because they try all their shooter and update the egine stuff on counter strike Aug 26 15:56:03 thats almost the common way they do it Aug 26 15:56:06 since cs source Aug 26 15:56:10 they update cs Aug 26 15:56:12 try things there Aug 26 15:56:16 and then reelsase a game Aug 26 15:56:23 CS has been garbage since 1.4 :( Aug 26 15:56:31 :O Aug 26 15:56:40 blasphemy Aug 26 15:56:50 blasphemus heathan Aug 26 15:56:59 1.4 is when they made the hitbox for the head the size of a truck Aug 26 15:57:18 and nerfed bunny hopping in that same patch too I believe Aug 26 15:57:35 on latest cs the box is mesh Aug 26 15:58:01 or so i understand Aug 26 15:58:07 i havnt played in so long Aug 26 15:58:13 The last time I played was when they killed bunnyhopping. Heh. Aug 26 15:58:16 That was ages ago. Aug 26 15:58:31 I haven't played more than 20 minutes in years Aug 26 15:58:35 I still bunnyhop out of habit. Even in games like L4D. Aug 26 15:58:41 like 7-8 years Aug 26 15:59:25 I'm just worried CS:GO is going to turn into a hats and items fest like TF2 did Aug 26 15:59:57 uhhhh Aug 26 15:59:58 hates Aug 26 16:00:02 hats* Aug 26 16:00:03 yeah. Aug 26 16:00:13 helmets Aug 26 16:00:18 nah i doubt it Aug 26 16:00:31 cs is prob the game they least add fetures too Aug 26 16:00:35 I doubted paid microdlc would happen to tf2, but it did Aug 26 16:00:39 Portal2, even Aug 26 16:00:42 i will just be happy with a true deathmatch mode Aug 26 16:01:35 i love cs Aug 26 16:01:43 but i hate lucky noob shots Aug 26 16:01:44 I mean, I like the TF2 gameplay, the system works well for matches. I'm just so sick of the items and.... freaking hats. Aug 26 16:02:24 lol Aug 26 16:02:37 cause you aint got any Aug 26 16:02:38 LOL Aug 26 16:02:44 I have a lot, actually. Aug 26 16:02:44 roadkill, dont have items Aug 26 16:02:46 looser Aug 26 16:02:47 looser Aug 26 16:02:51 lol Aug 26 16:02:53 all I do is hear people complain about not getting stuff Aug 26 16:02:55 im messing with you Aug 26 16:03:12 tfc conc maps > all Aug 26 16:03:13 i hide the chatbox Aug 26 16:04:24 good old cs Aug 26 16:05:04 ima shower Aug 26 16:05:08 then ima come back online Aug 26 16:05:13 and we are going to play some cs Aug 26 16:05:16 is going to be Aug 26 16:05:24 touchdroid cs day Aug 26 16:05:34 tp less vs tp havers Aug 26 16:05:40 tp less will win Aug 26 16:05:44 RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Aug 26 16:05:46 RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Aug 26 16:06:23 god that sucked took me 30mins to realize I was in the fanned user forumfor touchpad, martha falker Aug 26 16:07:20 damned autocorrect Aug 26 16:07:34 s:fanned:damned: Aug 26 16:08:57 so how to ask people that might know lol any taken the plunge yet and dd the imgs on Aug 26 16:09:31 and before sCr|pTiC- says you can't you have to know more about the downloader lo Aug 26 16:13:42 rhcp you nail a tp yet? Aug 26 16:13:51 yea local guy hooked me up Aug 26 16:13:55 he lives 3 blocks from me Aug 26 16:14:02 schweet Aug 26 16:14:10 I've been looking as promised Aug 26 16:14:13 an Aug 26 16:14:41 So did craptain ever release anything? Aug 26 16:14:48 tutti g out of work today to head over to a bb which showed inventory Aug 26 16:15:03 c0ns0le: they are sold out. Aug 26 16:15:29 i know many managers / workers for BB. the deal is the system shows in RSS available Aug 26 16:15:35 trsohmers: not what I was finding had 3 stores this more with units Aug 26 16:15:37 but the workers are hiding them Aug 26 16:15:44 exactly Aug 26 16:16:21 trsohmers: am in Houston, Conroe and lake Jackson had units Aug 26 16:16:34 best of luck Aug 26 16:16:59 i dono. people on the team still need. im not sure if i can keep my word. with HP. they are very confusing to say the least Aug 26 16:17:09 one minute im canceld. today i get a order conf Aug 26 16:17:25 rhcp same Aug 26 16:17:34 _shrugs- Aug 26 16:17:35 I had one say cancelled other didnt Aug 26 16:17:39 got both order confirms Aug 26 16:17:39 after a week of waiting mine finally shipped Aug 26 16:17:40 rwest: did you call? Aug 26 16:17:46 money refunded to my account Aug 26 16:17:54 mine shipped as well. one 16G Aug 26 16:17:58 i get it tom Aug 26 16:17:59 I was on the phone for 3 hour sbefore I gave up Aug 26 16:18:06 my 16gb dev unit should be delivered today Aug 26 16:18:07 im trying to call Aug 26 16:18:09 never got through Aug 26 16:18:12 gogo google voice call back Aug 26 16:19:04 bought from macmall and delivered earlier this week to family member due to thelimit they fwd on to me .same day so am anxious to blow it up Aug 26 16:20:45 hmm guess I'm having issues with the ekobuild on home router Aug 26 16:21:42 rhcp, save it Aug 26 16:21:48 ill biuy it off you wensday Aug 26 16:21:54 or today if i sell the car Aug 26 16:22:41 so I hear the team was able to get Android up on a TP Aug 26 16:23:02 spencerelliott: craptain was able to Aug 26 16:23:08 Greetings, jbruchon Aug 26 16:23:27 Hello trsohmers. Aug 26 16:23:27 awesome :D the same version that the Android TP's have or GB? Aug 26 16:23:47 spencerelliott: 2.2 Froyo Aug 26 16:23:48 I'm only dropping in to see if anyone's wanting to show me something that proves they're worthy of "developer" status, really. Aug 26 16:23:54 But he couldn't get the touchscreen working Aug 26 16:24:09 jbruchon, lol Aug 26 16:24:18 i can show yuou my mad kung fu Aug 26 16:24:36 i would love to help out but i haven't played around with kernel/module development a lot :P Aug 26 16:24:57 SamCripp: lol your kangfu lol Aug 26 16:25:06 j/j Aug 26 16:25:07 I was looking through the logcat and couldn't find anything specific, but I think someone found something in the dmesg Aug 26 16:25:23 the touchscreen will 90% work, in my opiniong Aug 26 16:25:27 trsohmers: the touchscreen requires a kernel driver from the open source code site for WebOS, IIRC. Aug 26 16:25:28 once /presist is mounted Aug 26 16:25:34 as the drivers are there and workiung Aug 26 16:25:37 jbruchon: Yea I know Aug 26 16:25:39 but no calibration exist for it Aug 26 16:25:42 oso ofcourse Aug 26 16:25:46 the screen wont work Aug 26 16:25:56 SamCripp: lspci -vt Aug 26 16:26:06 SamCripp: And that is in /data/ right? Aug 26 16:26:06 i dont have access to one Aug 26 16:26:10 SamCripp: dmidecode Aug 26 16:26:13 that is not data Aug 26 16:26:15 lol Aug 26 16:26:16 damn Aug 26 16:26:21 its its own partition Aug 26 16:26:27 usually never touch by anything Aug 26 16:26:40 they are always there Aug 26 16:26:44 look in your phones Aug 26 16:26:47 anyway, as long as people are attempting to get it working, I'm not really terribly concerned. It looks like you guys are busy; I've got to get back to work, so carry on. Keep in touch via Twitter, okay? Aug 26 16:27:23 jbruchon, alright Aug 26 16:27:30 Ciao! Aug 26 16:27:45 they go by many names Aug 26 16:27:57 sometimes /pds sometimes /persist Aug 26 16:28:05 this partitions Aug 26 16:28:19 they hold information that should not be change about the device Aug 26 16:28:22 like calibration Aug 26 16:28:24 imei Aug 26 16:28:30 things of the sort Aug 26 16:28:57 on the init.rc provided by craptain Aug 26 16:29:08 he had a /persist partition Aug 26 16:29:09 trsohmers, so when they had the touchscreen issues, did they have the drivers loaded and confirmed in dmesg? Aug 26 16:29:13 but he did not dd it Aug 26 16:29:55 Pulser: I have to go through the dmesg Aug 26 16:29:58 okay Aug 26 16:30:24 everything loaded Aug 26 16:30:27 except wifi Aug 26 16:30:33 wifi is also for some reason Aug 26 16:30:37 in its own partition Aug 26 16:30:54 now thats not what ive seen Aug 26 16:30:58 but as i understand Aug 26 16:30:58 right Aug 26 16:31:07 it was like that Aug 26 16:49:26 Puffy_wirc, you dont need to change your nick all the time btw :) Aug 26 16:49:56 trying to get something working wirc-enyo.... Aug 26 16:50:08 i guess I will leave here for a little bit and miss all the fun Aug 26 16:50:12 ahhh ok :) Aug 26 16:50:13 no no Aug 26 16:50:17 it wasn't a remark dude Aug 26 16:50:23 I was just pointing it out lol Aug 26 16:50:26 ;) Aug 26 16:50:41 Please, do go on! lol Aug 26 16:53:58 is there really no cache controller on apq8060? Aug 26 16:55:02 judging from that pic that craptain or whatever posted the build.prop is wrong on top of his firmware issues Aug 26 16:55:06 lock screen isn't set right Aug 26 16:58:05 sampson: Nothing was working on that boot. Not even the touchscreen. Aug 26 16:58:13 roadkill: yeah i'm aware Aug 26 16:58:21 was just pointing out something on top of the touchscreen issue ;) Aug 26 16:58:29 So I don't even know where one could begin to fix the problems. Aug 26 16:58:35 init.rd Aug 26 16:58:54 i've run into similar issues when porting devices to miui Aug 26 16:59:00 huh Aug 26 16:59:27 init sets up the device to load the proper drivers into memory and sometimes they point to the wrong space Aug 26 16:59:48 talk to avalaunchmod on xda-dev Aug 26 16:59:53 he has a lot of experience with it Aug 26 17:01:09 hum Aug 26 17:01:19 i take it to get it to work you just used metadoctor to create matching partitions and then used dd? Aug 26 17:01:23 there we go.... cleaned the bans from before jb cleaned the chan Aug 26 17:01:25 and bootie Aug 26 17:01:48 sCr|pTiC-, jb gave everyone a full forgive yesterday evening, so I figured Aug 26 17:02:06 sCr|pTiC-, I didnt remove your ban from this morning though Aug 26 17:02:14 that was after XD Aug 26 17:02:31 Douchey. Aug 26 17:02:36 That guy is an idiot. Aug 26 17:02:41 I banned no one besides, IRONMatt. However, i'm sure he's willing to play nice today :) Aug 26 17:02:45 Anyway. Aug 26 17:02:57 i love bootie Aug 26 17:03:06 me to, SamCripp. Aug 26 17:03:19 nothing better when you are drunk or high Aug 26 17:03:21 Douchey Aug 26 17:03:22 a fine bootie Aug 26 17:03:24 mmmmmm Aug 26 17:03:28 mmMMMm Aug 26 17:03:30 cant wait till io get home Aug 26 17:03:31 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REGISTERED NICK TO TALK IN HERE. Aug 26 17:03:37 REGISTER WITH CHANSERV. Aug 26 17:03:39 lol Aug 26 17:03:47 the TouchPad's have landed! Aug 26 17:03:52 WTYF Aug 26 17:03:55 all 3 are at my house :D Aug 26 17:03:59 ProTekk, Aug 26 17:04:04 sup SamCripp Aug 26 17:04:05 i hate you Aug 26 17:04:07 >< Aug 26 17:04:08 haha Aug 26 17:04:09 <3 Aug 26 17:04:16 no Aug 26 17:04:19 they are out of stock Aug 26 17:04:21 :/// Aug 26 17:04:25 <33333333333 Aug 26 17:04:26 well mine comes tomorrow! Aug 26 17:04:30 i do need 1 for the wife though Aug 26 17:04:35 gimmie one of yours, ProTekk. Aug 26 17:04:58 lmao Aug 26 17:05:02 so many people asking me for one Aug 26 17:05:08 one i already sold Aug 26 17:05:08 hrm Aug 26 17:05:11 to my gf's mother Aug 26 17:05:21 she doesnt know how to work it ProTekk Aug 26 17:05:25 i do :P Aug 26 17:05:26 whoops Aug 26 17:05:28 sCr|pTiC-: :P Aug 26 17:05:36 roadkill: whaddap buddy? Aug 26 17:06:01 ProTekk: Waiting for Fedex so I can open the door wearing a bathrobe and have my own porno scene. Aug 26 17:06:10 im not gonna ask you ProTekk Aug 26 17:06:12 roadkill: wow Aug 26 17:06:19 roadkill, Oh the poor delivery man! Aug 26 17:06:21 im going to down right demand it Aug 26 17:06:33 SamCripp: haha, i love you man Aug 26 17:06:37 Estimated delivery Aug 27, 2011 | Next scheduled tracking update: Aug 26, 2011 Aug 26 17:06:45 why no update. if its in my city today i want to pick it up! Aug 26 17:07:36 Mine has been out for delivery since midnight Aug 26 17:07:45 heh Aug 26 17:08:03 yeah i'm waiting for fedex. they have 2.5 hours before i have to leave for work :-| Aug 26 17:08:04 I really cannot believe that even in this age, FedEx and UPS cannot tell you a 6 hour range of time that the package will be delivered. Aug 26 17:08:05 mine has been out for delivery sine saturdat at noon Aug 26 17:08:10 I can't sleep Aug 26 17:08:26 fucking liars office depot cock suckers Aug 26 17:08:38 SamCripp: Tell us how you really feel... Aug 26 17:09:06 or even if its going to be morning or afternoon/evening Aug 26 17:09:09 that'd be nice Aug 26 17:09:12 roadkill, you are not ready for the range of vulgarity waiting to explode from me Aug 26 17:09:13 lol my SMB order supposedly is supposed to ship AND deliver today. i doubt that will happen Aug 26 17:09:14 so no Aug 26 17:09:16 I did 2 day shipping I knew I should have overnighted it Aug 26 17:09:40 I love that notice on tracking numbers, that something can be out for delivery at 2am... I just imagine a foreveralone.jpg UPS driver going down the streets with all the packages, driving from place to place, waiting for someone to open. Aug 26 17:10:01 so roadkill am i right in my assumption about metadoctor/dd/bootie? Aug 26 17:11:22 the antenna on the Touchdroid logo been driving me nuts.. I fixed it if u would like to use this one instead.. Aug 26 17:11:22 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22063477/TouchDroid.png Aug 26 17:11:33 /me suddenly remembers he has the UPS drivers number on his phone Aug 26 17:11:39 shooot, /me is disabled? Aug 26 17:11:42 =( Aug 26 17:11:46 test Aug 26 17:11:47 no you have a char in there dummy Aug 26 17:11:49 * sampson dork Aug 26 17:12:01 well shoot Aug 26 17:12:14 why does the android logo always remind me of south park... Aug 26 17:12:15 finally, can someone explain how to unsplit trsohmers dump? Aug 26 17:12:16 * mm13 feels stupid Aug 26 17:12:37 douchey_: first, it's not his dump..... Aug 26 17:12:39 douchey_, you dont have too Aug 26 17:12:43 no Aug 26 17:12:47 farchord, no Aug 26 17:12:47 i have 70 folders Aug 26 17:12:50 do get into that Aug 26 17:12:51 no Aug 26 17:12:54 douchey_, Aug 26 17:12:56 sorry Aug 26 17:13:00 anyway Aug 26 17:13:04 download the one posted by droid Aug 26 17:13:07 yes just extract with winimage Aug 26 17:13:11 is only the neccesary stuff Aug 26 17:13:15 with the .imgs? Aug 26 17:13:18 is it updated Aug 26 17:13:23 yes Aug 26 17:13:24 .img = raw DD dumps of the nand blocks. All you need. Aug 26 17:13:34 i help him make the right dump Aug 26 17:13:40 yesterday .img were useless Aug 26 17:13:47 they are never useless Aug 26 17:13:50 -.- Aug 26 17:13:57 the .imgs where corrupt Aug 26 17:14:00 wouldn't mount Aug 26 17:14:02 etc Aug 26 17:14:27 douchey_: Not all imgs have filesystems. That's why the proper way to do it is to do a raw dump. Aug 26 17:14:47 ok Aug 26 17:15:28 no init.rd in they ones I have Aug 26 17:15:59 looks like a partial systems folder for andoird Aug 26 17:16:03 no boot part Aug 26 17:16:04 etc Aug 26 17:16:12 LOL Aug 26 17:16:14 is that correct Aug 26 17:16:18 each one of those images Aug 26 17:16:21 is a partiion Aug 26 17:16:25 from a android Aug 26 17:16:33 understood Aug 26 17:16:33 did anyone get a dd of the block device instead of the partitions? Aug 26 17:16:34 so one imag could be Aug 26 17:16:35 etc Aug 26 17:16:40 while the other could cache Aug 26 17:16:42 probably Aug 26 17:16:55 while the other could be boot Aug 26 17:17:03 make it easy, which .img is the boot part Aug 26 17:17:05 c0ns0le, a dd of the block was not possible Aug 26 17:17:09 so i got the best second thing Aug 26 17:17:14 each and every partition Aug 26 17:17:19 eh gotcha Aug 26 17:17:27 douchey_, mostlikely 8 Aug 26 17:17:34 what aboutthe internal 1gb Aug 26 17:17:52 data? Aug 26 17:18:03 has anyone checked what's you Der the blank piece ? Aug 26 17:18:05 just data Aug 26 17:18:08 under Aug 26 17:18:10 to be honest there was no data in the block Aug 26 17:18:18 idk how the other dump was aquire Aug 26 17:18:24 but what most people dont understand Aug 26 17:18:34 is that all the other partitions fill with zero Aug 26 17:18:46 and are not neccesary for android to operate Aug 26 17:19:08 right so any helpful hints on mounting this 8.img Aug 26 17:19:23 hmm Aug 26 17:19:27 if i remember correctcly Aug 26 17:19:30 douchey__: loop Aug 26 17:19:41 douchey_, mounting it to tp Aug 26 17:19:47 or mounting it on your pc Aug 26 17:19:48 says not reconized file system Aug 26 17:19:54 you cant pmount Aug 26 17:19:58 YOU CANT MOUNT Aug 26 17:20:02 a boot partition Aug 26 17:20:11 you could split it Aug 26 17:20:19 and get a kernel binary on one side Aug 26 17:20:21 Think boot is 12 Aug 26 17:20:23 and a ramdisk on the other Aug 26 17:20:28 there's a perl script out there that can split the boot img Aug 26 17:20:38 yes Aug 26 17:20:43 splitboot Aug 26 17:20:49 fuck Aug 26 17:21:09 anyone have drivers for a Sil 1354A ADD2-N PCI-e card for win 7 x64? Aug 26 17:21:38 my bad.... Sil 1364A* Aug 26 17:21:45 bordem ftw... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22063477/IMG_20110826_131631.jpg Aug 26 17:22:38 this is a split boot image for android on tp Aug 26 17:22:40 http://www.multiupload.com/QAC40UO8R2 Aug 26 17:22:51 that split image was provided by MrDiode Aug 26 17:22:53 samscripp: can I mount 13.img Aug 26 17:23:05 looks like users partition Aug 26 17:23:12 douchey_, i have not tested the images Aug 26 17:23:16 i dont have a tp Aug 26 17:23:26 so i just been working on cm7 for my phone Aug 26 17:23:30 as soon as i have a tp Aug 26 17:23:35 i can make shit work Aug 26 17:23:43 but as of right now Aug 26 17:23:46 douchey Aug 26 17:23:49 my colaboration is theory Aug 26 17:23:49 12 is system Aug 26 17:23:51 13 is userdata Aug 26 17:23:54 up Aug 26 17:23:55 yup Aug 26 17:23:58 You guys see rainlakes post? Aug 26 17:24:12 12 and 13 are ext4 Aug 26 17:24:13 it won't let me mount the ext4 Aug 26 17:24:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkiuvVJGl44 (1:20) whats the name of that game? Aug 26 17:24:19 correct Aug 26 17:24:20 i mean 13.img Aug 26 17:24:30 mount -o loop -t ext4 13.img /path Aug 26 17:24:40 empty iirc Aug 26 17:24:58 you dont need to mount as ext4 it should autodetect Aug 26 17:25:14 but you do need loop Aug 26 17:25:24 i get a wrong fs type Aug 26 17:25:53 SamCripp when will you get your TP? Aug 26 17:26:28 MrDiode: Do you have a list of what each of the images are? Aug 26 17:26:47 douchey_, ext4 Aug 26 17:27:23 SimsDelt, i wont, no one wants to sell me one at cost, office depot screw me because of the storm, and i wont have money until wensday Aug 26 17:27:34 so im SOL and JWL Aug 26 17:27:44 shit out of luck and jolly well fucked Aug 26 17:27:46 tr: most are blanks but i did, let me dig it up. i was working with smiths on XDA Aug 26 17:27:51 Some Best Buys are still supposed to get random shipments Aug 26 17:28:06 not in puerto rico Aug 26 17:28:15 lol, thats prob true Aug 26 17:28:58 type the mount command: sudo mount -o loop -t ext4 13.img ./image13 Aug 26 17:29:02 Isn't HP going to liquidate the rest of their warehouse? Couldn't u get one then? Aug 26 17:29:03 and I get a wrong fs.img Aug 26 17:29:17 * wrong fs type Aug 26 17:29:19 * SimsDelt slaps SamCripp around a bit with a large trout Aug 26 17:29:24 if hp had any Aug 26 17:29:26 lol... didn't mean to do that Aug 26 17:29:28 they would be selling them Aug 26 17:30:48 instead they are shipping them to best buy Aug 26 17:30:57 who is selling them in a control enviorment Aug 26 17:31:00 than over the web Aug 26 17:31:05 much smarter Aug 26 17:31:25 yeah all we'd gotten was 8 is boot, 12 is system, 13 is userdata Aug 26 17:31:33 and it looks like 1 contains some kind of modem Aug 26 17:31:43 or device driver Aug 26 17:32:02 1 is the AMSS Aug 26 17:32:07 mrdiode: 13.img is mounting for you Aug 26 17:32:18 there we go, thx jon Aug 26 17:32:29 douchey_: linux correct? Aug 26 17:32:39 yes, mounted fine. hell it even extracts in winimage too if you want to go that route Aug 26 17:32:52 i could get winimage to work on 12 thats why i fired up my dev vbox for the rest Aug 26 17:33:04 yup Aug 26 17:33:21 mount -o loop -t ext4 13.img /mnt/point Aug 26 17:33:23 that should work Aug 26 17:33:29 i did Aug 26 17:33:34 and not working Aug 26 17:33:41 errors or empty? Aug 26 17:33:42 i'm guessing I got a bad version Aug 26 17:33:45 errors Aug 26 17:33:48 fs wrong type Aug 26 17:33:53 so jon, why is there amss in this dump? Aug 26 17:34:06 is it because it's a port or hackjob of a topaz build? Aug 26 17:34:34 The lesson to be learned here is that not everything is within a filesystem for it to be binary code that a device can read and execute. That's why some of these images are unmountable. Open it up in notepad. You won't be able to read it anyway. The DD images are raw dumps. How everything was stored on flash. Aug 26 17:34:36 it was made by qualcomm Aug 26 17:34:49 you can save some time douchey_, it's empty lol Aug 26 17:35:05 lol Aug 26 17:35:06 ok Aug 26 17:35:18 not everything that wont mount is empty Aug 26 17:35:26 gosh you ppl dont read Aug 26 17:35:28 mine mounts Aug 26 17:35:30 and it is empty Aug 26 17:35:37 theres a thing Aug 26 17:35:40 call a binary file Aug 26 17:35:47 and they cant be mounted Aug 26 17:35:59 13.img is prob empty Aug 26 17:36:02 as its the user data Aug 26 17:36:11 but a lof of those images are neccesary Aug 26 17:36:16 and have things in them Aug 26 17:36:18 MrDiode, should 1.img, its a fat fs with a few dangerous files :p. Images of the DSP firmware in some crazed split instruction and data format. Also firmware for the armv6 mpu's Aug 26 17:36:20 like persist Aug 26 17:36:42 thx roadkill Aug 26 17:36:56 back to looking to split the boot image Aug 26 17:37:05 http://www.multiupload.com/XL3E265Z7M Aug 26 17:37:07 here it is Aug 26 17:37:29 MrDiode: Could you compile your findings? or post a link if you already have? Aug 26 17:37:36 I am still working on the drivers Aug 26 17:38:02 its actually quite possible that the android AMSS is not compatible with the webOS one Aug 26 17:38:09 has anyone bothered to do a dd from a working touchpad and comparing the vital partitions such as the ones that house firmware Aug 26 17:38:21 that is the most logical idea ive heard yet Aug 26 17:38:26 that i havent seen done on the boards Aug 26 17:38:32 though i believe that is what damageless is requested Aug 26 17:38:38 *requesting on rootzwiki Aug 26 17:38:45 i'd do it but i'm busy with work Aug 26 17:39:29 i can grab mine and do it i suppose. i havent checked thread to see if someone else has yet though Aug 26 17:40:19 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3831&p=77898#post77898 Aug 26 17:40:22 read if you havent yet Aug 26 17:41:22 damageless speaks wise words. Aug 26 17:41:26 oh, he wants a dd of the android tablet's partition block Aug 26 17:41:47 trsohmers you can do that no? that was your video with it running? Aug 26 17:42:08 MrDiode: I don't have the device on me at this time… I'll contact both of the people I know who have one Aug 26 17:43:05 cool. in the interim damageless i see you on here Aug 26 17:43:09 Try emailing Rennat at: armys.of.monkeys@gmail.com Aug 26 17:43:20 he's the one who knows webos recovery and dr inside and out Aug 26 17:43:31 he did the ubuntu chroot Aug 26 17:44:12 rwhitby doesn't seem very willing to help right now... Aug 26 17:44:49 trsohmers: considering how many licenses are being broken by the rom dump Aug 26 17:44:53 just to make sure Aug 26 17:45:02 i doubt you will get any help from anyone on webos-internals Aug 26 17:45:04 everyone with a tap please say aye Aug 26 17:45:08 they take it very seriously Aug 26 17:45:27 touchpad? yes Aug 26 17:45:27 sampson: I know :| I'm not a huge fan of breaking any laws/licenses, but :| Aug 26 17:45:35 aye Aug 26 17:45:44 yes Aug 26 17:45:53 k, i hate you all Aug 26 17:45:57 <3 Aug 26 17:46:00 ha Aug 26 17:46:02 lol Aug 26 17:46:05 now i got to work Aug 26 17:46:08 tapless Aug 26 17:46:17 if it helps, i got screwed by onsale and CDW Aug 26 17:46:24 it does not Aug 26 17:46:30 I was so happy to find one in store Aug 26 17:46:31 CEO was going to give me an extra Aug 26 17:46:54 i spoke to the spokeperson for the chairman of office depot Aug 26 17:46:57 still got me no where Aug 26 17:47:03 i got her eprsonal email Aug 26 17:47:31 maybe i should make a personal add in all the craigslist under w4mm Aug 26 17:48:18 w4tripleteam Aug 26 17:48:43 UPS came! My OnSale TP is in hand! Aug 26 17:49:11 so there's 1 of the 5 they actually had in stock eh Aug 26 17:49:35 I even ordered during the"deadzone" at 6 on Sunday., Aug 26 17:50:53 fgdfg Aug 26 17:51:02 oops Aug 26 17:51:03 i saw on XDA they got USB host support to work for galaxy tab Aug 26 17:51:06 woman, 19, horny, looking for 2 dudes (one must be a tranny) to bang all night and humilated. into - sheise porn, bdsm, water sports, double penetraition, tripple penetration, anal double penetration, double fisting. would like for it to be naughty and filmed. you can contact me at mary.wells@officedepot.com Aug 26 17:51:08 which is didnt come with Aug 26 17:51:22 so theres hope for touchpad Aug 26 17:51:30 if some low level device guys come on board Aug 26 17:51:31 heh Aug 26 17:51:53 MrDiode: Almost positive that it supports usb host and HDMI output Aug 26 17:52:01 bleh >.> now in recommended evacuation zone Aug 26 17:52:04 I haven't been able to get a usb to hdmi Aug 26 17:52:15 http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-your-galaxy-tab-more-versatile-thanks-to-usb-host-functionality/ Aug 26 17:52:17 im sorry RobbieJ Aug 26 17:52:29 i was like you about a week ago Aug 26 17:52:51 i hate the galaxy tab Aug 26 17:52:59 if i wanted a tv i would buy one Aug 26 17:53:04 WUA? I love my tab. Aug 26 17:53:08 MrDiode: The thing is is that it supports it out of the box with 3.1 Aug 26 17:53:08 its so freaking long Aug 26 17:53:15 ah, didnt know that Aug 26 17:53:20 thats what she said Aug 26 17:53:29 she loved it tooo Aug 26 17:53:38 then she realize it was a galaxy tab and pissed on it Aug 26 17:53:51 SamCripp: Shouldn't you be working on getting Cyanogen on my Atrix? Aug 26 17:53:54 ;) Aug 26 17:53:55 meh, Aug 26 17:53:59 i have the xoom Aug 26 17:54:12 bit.ly/pjFznc --Bionic at Costco for $300… with the dock, car charger, and more Aug 26 17:54:39 Wookiebush, http://code.google.com/p/atrix-dev-team/ shoudnt you be not caring what i do Aug 26 17:54:58 haha, just kidding, I just saw that you were on that team last night. Which is awesome. Aug 26 17:55:09 if my charge didnt have such a pathetic amount of memory it would be perfect. Aug 26 17:55:10 not awesome Aug 26 17:55:14 i need a tp Aug 26 17:55:20 and maybe we can make this thing work Aug 26 17:55:39 SamCripp: And you think that we are not able to do it without you? Aug 26 17:56:12 dick-measuring contest starting soon? :-) Aug 26 17:56:13 let's not start that. Aug 26 17:56:35 this isnt #anonops Aug 26 17:56:37 no need Aug 26 17:56:43 trsohmers, would you like my honest answer base on the amount of knowledge been share here, the way people behave, and the amount of questions i see? Aug 26 17:57:46 SamCripp: Sure Aug 26 17:57:50 rofl Aug 26 17:57:57 okay Aug 26 17:58:10 * PAulyhoffman puts on ear muffs Aug 26 17:58:12 pcmag article #2 here we go Aug 26 17:58:41 SamCripp: Keep on fueling the Drama. I bet everyone really wants to listen to this Aug 26 17:58:51 so I'm going to go back to work Aug 26 17:58:57 trsohmers, i think you are prepubence shit head who dosnt know anything other than what he reads and can copy, and to concider the idea that you could deliver a fresh gingerbread based on something you cant even phatom, make me irk with anger Aug 26 17:59:24 No. Aug 26 17:59:26 Not again. Aug 26 17:59:30 sure you are probably a good script kiddie Aug 26 17:59:30 You both will stop. Aug 26 17:59:43 but i def dont see gingerbread with your name Aug 26 17:59:43 All I will say is that you are sadly mistaken, and I don't want to fuel any trolls. Aug 26 17:59:49 Not this fucking shit again. Aug 26 17:59:53 no Aug 26 17:59:54 and... we're off... Aug 26 17:59:56 this needs to be said Aug 26 18:00:01 No it does not Aug 26 18:00:03 No, it really doesnt. Aug 26 18:00:05 Bring it in private Aug 26 18:00:07 inc +m ? Aug 26 18:00:21 people come here to work Aug 26 18:00:38 all that happens here is a bunch of questions Aug 26 18:00:42 dev dont question Aug 26 18:00:44 SamCripp: You mute the entire room because you decide to bring up shit when I am trying to work with people? Aug 26 18:00:44 they work Aug 26 18:00:54 go work Aug 26 18:00:58 SamCripp: Not everyone knows everything, and smart people ask questions Aug 26 18:01:01 all i see you is asking questions Aug 26 18:01:16 short answer Aug 26 18:01:16 Morons continue to go on to keep up the guise of knowing everything Aug 26 18:01:17 no Aug 26 18:01:23 you are going to need me Aug 26 18:01:27 you are going to need eval- Aug 26 18:01:31 you are going to need faux Aug 26 18:01:37 you are going to need jbru Aug 26 18:01:49 otherwise all thats going to be accomplish in this room Aug 26 18:01:53 is mounting an image Aug 26 18:01:55 SamCripp: And this is the reason why I am going to tell jbruchon that I am NOT going to rejoin Touchdroid Aug 26 18:01:59 not a new fully functioning Aug 26 18:02:01 os Aug 26 18:02:02 -.- Aug 26 18:02:05 ;) Aug 26 18:02:09 Ok Both STOP. Internal matters go in private please. Aug 26 18:02:15 farchord: Thank you Aug 26 18:02:17 trsohmers, there is no touchdroid Aug 26 18:02:17 Not everyone needs to hear you two bicker. Aug 26 18:02:22 no one cares if you join Aug 26 18:02:23 leaave Aug 26 18:02:26 p[iss on a tree Aug 26 18:02:29 kiss a ghost Aug 26 18:02:31 no one cares Aug 26 18:02:34 people come here to work Aug 26 18:02:36 collaborate Aug 26 18:02:42 no one cares Aug 26 18:02:43 SamCripp: Do you have to be a douchebag? You are the one that is causing drama. Aug 26 18:02:48 pot, meet kettle. Aug 26 18:02:51 is there any reason u are deciding to be a doushebag Sam? Aug 26 18:02:54 yes Aug 26 18:02:57 ctually yes Aug 26 18:03:01 yesterday Aug 26 18:03:03 you took Aug 26 18:03:05 my hard work Aug 26 18:03:05 Seriously, you are just being a douchebag Aug 26 18:03:09 pissed all over it Aug 26 18:03:12 and called it yours Aug 26 18:03:13 so yes Aug 26 18:03:18 im a douchbag to you Aug 26 18:03:21 whenever i feel like it Aug 26 18:03:21 SamCripp: You do know I was working with Jiwani Aug 26 18:03:23 this should be dicussed in private and handeled like a adult Aug 26 18:03:24 ffs Aug 26 18:03:34 nah this disccusion is not needed Aug 26 18:03:44 SamCripp: We can agree on that, then Aug 26 18:03:46 THen why are you having it!? Aug 26 18:03:59 he asked Aug 26 18:04:01 farchord: My guess is because he likes to troll because he doesn't have a touchpad Aug 26 18:04:03 I didn't ask Aug 26 18:04:04 i gave him my honest answer Aug 26 18:04:08 as IM NOT ONE TO LIE Aug 26 18:04:09 trsohmers, shush! Aug 26 18:04:10 You offered to give an answer Aug 26 18:04:24 but whatever, I'm going to work Aug 26 18:04:50 each time this kid is in here a new fire breaks loose Aug 26 18:04:55 each time i leave Aug 26 18:05:02 and each time people go looking for me Aug 26 18:05:04 tbh u started it by being a ass Aug 26 18:05:05 and pull me back Aug 26 18:05:21 so ima solve this Aug 26 18:05:23 very easy Aug 26 18:05:30 if there is issues discuss them in private Aug 26 18:05:34 it is a simple thing Aug 26 18:05:37 seriously Aug 26 18:05:42 i dont have too Aug 26 18:05:43 why Aug 26 18:05:48 isnt the drama global Aug 26 18:05:51 isn t it on pc mag Aug 26 18:05:52 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3752&page=2 Aug 26 18:05:54 isnt it on root Aug 26 18:05:55 fyi Aug 26 18:05:57 insit it ewverywhere Aug 26 18:05:58 another android touchpad Aug 26 18:06:04 we disscuss it here in public Aug 26 18:06:04 not on ebay Aug 26 18:06:15 and it is a 32 Aug 26 18:06:29 nice Aug 26 18:06:31 $600 Aug 26 18:06:49 lame Aug 26 18:06:57 sweet Aug 26 18:07:02 no reason to work with a 15 year asking questions stealing peoples work Aug 26 18:07:08 anyone who dislike it Aug 26 18:07:10 please leave Aug 26 18:07:14 simple as that Aug 26 18:07:26 more independent dev work might help you guys: Aug 26 18:07:27 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3827 Aug 26 18:07:31 Dude sam.... Jbruchon had a good 30mins talk about this, how past sins were forgiven, you just pissed over it.... Aug 26 18:07:42 it is funny you take decisions in your own hands when you guys are susposely a group effort with everything. Aug 26 18:08:16 @farchord finally a voice of sense... Aug 26 18:08:20 you all are working on open source technologies. drop the ego, realize you get credit where credit is due, and let people build off what has been accomplished Aug 26 18:08:31 b00sted, Shut the hell up I don't need you siding for me! Aug 26 18:08:46 there is no forging this kid Aug 26 18:08:46 eat me Aug 26 18:08:47 im sorry Aug 26 18:08:50 is not happenin Aug 26 18:08:52 hey. Aug 26 18:08:53 wow Aug 26 18:08:53 God more I see this shit going on more I think this is hopeless Aug 26 18:08:53 dudes. Aug 26 18:08:59 b00sted, quit the disrespect Aug 26 18:08:59 and i thought xda-dev was a dramatic shitfest Aug 26 18:09:00 we might have a partition table layout Aug 26 18:09:05 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3827 Aug 26 18:09:21 like i sid Aug 26 18:09:25 2 3 5 6 7 9 in webos Aug 26 18:09:27 if you guys are not happy with it Aug 26 18:09:30 please leave Aug 26 18:10:09 looks like he bricked though Aug 26 18:10:14 lol Aug 26 18:10:18 lol Aug 26 18:10:20 looks like rainlake just bricked his touchpad Aug 26 18:10:26 ouch Aug 26 18:10:29 how he do it? Aug 26 18:10:41 well he's booting the partition not recovery Aug 26 18:10:43 so there's still hope Aug 26 18:10:46 can't you use doctor or whatever or no if you replace the bootloader Aug 26 18:10:56 if you replace the bootloader no Aug 26 18:10:59 k Aug 26 18:11:03 you need the boot loader and recovery partition Aug 26 18:11:11 figures Aug 26 18:12:12 are you guys trying to boot the images? Aug 26 18:12:23 cause that can be done already Aug 26 18:12:23 omg LOL http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170687176878%23ht_570wt_1189#ht_742wt_1187 Aug 26 18:12:40 lol ^ Aug 26 18:12:41 woops sorry, meant to post that in touchpad. Aug 26 18:12:59 jesus its almost 100K Aug 26 18:13:20 for those trying to mount the images and boot touchless android Aug 26 18:13:37 the instructions from craptain from last night were as follow Aug 26 18:13:51 how much would i have to bribe you to give me voice Aug 26 18:13:52 obtain android bootloader mode <<< clueless dont ask Aug 26 18:14:18 dd system to mmcblk0p14 Aug 26 18:14:30 edit ramdisk to boot from 14 Aug 26 18:14:41 and init.rc hack to fake data Aug 26 18:14:44 and blam Aug 26 18:14:49 booting android system on tp Aug 26 18:14:55 no touch tho Aug 26 18:15:04 for touch you are going to need the persist partition Aug 26 18:15:06 so that is all easy as pie. except the first part. which is the part nobody can figure out. Aug 26 18:15:08 to also be mounted Aug 26 18:15:09 :P Aug 26 18:15:26 yeah you need to ask craptain Aug 26 18:15:32 init.rc hack to fake data? Aug 26 18:15:32 thought damageless seems to be on the right track Aug 26 18:15:34 nigga was high as fuck last ngiht Aug 26 18:15:36 no wonder touch screen doesn't work Aug 26 18:15:51 POC to prove it could be done temp Aug 26 18:15:55 like he said, need persist Aug 26 18:15:58 sampson, touch dont work because is not calibrated Aug 26 18:15:59 which is the current roadblock Aug 26 18:16:02 that info is in persist Aug 26 18:16:08 along with other shit Aug 26 18:16:09 SamCripp: gotcha Aug 26 18:16:11 cant calibrate something you dont have access to cfg wise Aug 26 18:16:13 it looks like build.prop was wrong too though Aug 26 18:16:26 yeah the build.prop will need some hacking Aug 26 18:16:35 it was using the wrong type of elements to draw shit - i.e the lock screen was rendering a phone locking screen Aug 26 18:16:44 looked like MDPI or whatever.. been a while since i've used android Aug 26 18:16:48 but none of that is really important as loing as we can verify everything works in the current images Aug 26 18:17:10 sampson, im not sure how that occur Aug 26 18:17:29 as my system dumps came from one of the 3 android tablets circulating Aug 26 18:17:35 android tp* tablet Aug 26 18:18:08 SamCripp: well if you're screwing with the init image it fucks up build.prop Aug 26 18:18:44 It really doesn't look all so hard Aug 26 18:19:36 eval-, it isnt Aug 26 18:19:37 Unpack 8.img, tweak init.rc to mount the webos user data (whateer it is), then loopback mount mmcblk0p1, p12, p13 into firmware,/system,/data, then proceed as normal. tack thisramdisk onto the 8.img kernel and push it to bootie to boot Aug 26 18:19:40 it was already mounted Aug 26 18:19:42 and booted Aug 26 18:19:47 no touch tho Aug 26 18:19:54 i assume is the persist partition Aug 26 18:19:58 created but empty Aug 26 18:20:10 eval-: You make it sound SO SIMPLE. Aug 26 18:20:11 Well, craptain didn't mount the firmware AFAIK and seems to think there's some other tweaking Aug 26 18:20:18 eval-, is the man Aug 26 18:20:21 Shit gotta close windowsbefore rain everywhere Aug 26 18:21:33 roadkill, deving is simple, dosnt require much thinking, is more doing than ASKING! Aug 26 18:21:38 but like me Aug 26 18:21:42 * eval- missed hischance to get a TP in germany and has to wait 2months for friends to come to eu =( Aug 26 18:21:45 eval- is working blind Aug 26 18:22:02 eval- is working blind AND doing more work than a lot of people who have touchpads, combined Aug 26 18:22:11 indeed Aug 26 18:22:22 he just told you how to mount it and get it working Aug 26 18:22:26 some one please get on it Aug 26 18:22:29 eval-: heve them ship it? Aug 26 18:22:43 rwest: >$100 shipping + customs =( Aug 26 18:22:46 rwest: Customs fees and taxes on import. Aug 26 18:22:53 worth it Aug 26 18:22:55 why not just remote into someone else's dev system? I'll offer mine. Aug 26 18:23:05 International shipping and taxes are so fucked. Aug 26 18:23:25 niamu, is possible Aug 26 18:23:32 but is also a major pain in the ass Aug 26 18:23:38 look at the img dump Aug 26 18:23:43 thats the way they were made Aug 26 18:23:53 The stuff I don't understand yet is bootie Aug 26 18:24:08 no acess to the system is like been in jail and wanting freedom Aug 26 18:24:10 wow Aug 26 18:24:12 that was deep Aug 26 18:24:13 LOL Aug 26 18:24:47 eval-, next time craptain gets on ill get some instructions on bootie, dosnt seem much different than ios Aug 26 18:24:50 craptrain said he could chainboot fastboot (7.img) Aug 26 18:24:54 SamCripp: when you did the dd's did you have the device in recovery mode Aug 26 18:25:00 SamCripp: or was it booted? Aug 26 18:25:00 then you could fastboot boot zImage ramdisk Aug 26 18:25:07 and we could test things risk free Aug 26 18:25:23 no idea Aug 26 18:25:36 c0ns0le|away, i wasnt the one remoting to it Aug 26 18:25:38 someone else was Aug 26 18:25:47 i was pretty much explaining how to do it Aug 26 18:25:56 SamCripp: ah. k. just wondering if things would look different if it were in recovery. Aug 26 18:26:45 btw, (hewhogoesunnamed) <--- lol.... claimed to have a 1.4gb dump? i'm guessing that is uncompressed? Aug 26 18:27:03 thats could be right Aug 26 18:27:09 SamCripp: the device which the dump came from 32 or 16 Aug 26 18:27:10 I'd laugh if someone ended up getting iOS running on the Touchpad, too Aug 26 18:27:11 if he dump all the ram1 through 12 Aug 26 18:27:14 and so on Aug 26 18:27:17 but not needed Aug 26 18:27:24 we only need what makes android as a hole Aug 26 18:27:38 SamCripp: understand, just trying to gather a bit of intel here. Aug 26 18:27:45 c0ns0le|away, no idea im sorry Aug 26 18:27:51 like i said Aug 26 18:27:55 i wasnt remoting to the device Aug 26 18:28:14 otherwise we would hve a good 4 or 6 pages of pastebin to look at Aug 26 18:28:43 SamCripp: do we have a single page, which has all the info we know about the droid tablet instead of one here one there etc... Aug 26 18:29:37 SamCripp: would be nice to have a single page, with, mount,df, lsmod, lspci, find / > fs.lst etc.... Aug 26 18:29:47 I could throw up a wiki Aug 26 18:30:19 i'd presume the '/system' dump ie small file has etc and the vold.fstab etc.. Aug 26 18:30:44 again appologies, i've not dug too deep into the files. wont until i know what we have. Aug 26 18:30:51 err s:we:ya'll:g Aug 26 18:31:23 roadkill, if iOS could run on the touchpad, apple would be throwing out lawsuits everywhere Aug 26 18:31:43 honestly, the data which rainlake,mrdiod have posted could be used to build a flashable rom. only issue is there would have to be a way to stream a data img to the partitions. Aug 26 18:32:02 and i say 'rom' loosly. Aug 26 18:32:31 the only real problem with iOS is you'd need to overwrite the bootloader to get it to work properly -- and the bootloader is in ROM on iDevices Aug 26 18:32:37 i.e. you can't write over it. Aug 26 18:34:09 MrDiode: when you are connected via novaterm in recovery mode. Aug 26 18:34:35 MrDiode: what is the shell. is it a busybox shell or do you have tools? Aug 26 18:35:45 nm.... i'll just throw it into recovery mode.... and how does one get it out of recovery mode. hold (home,power) Aug 26 18:35:48 ? Aug 26 18:36:24 if your device is "bricked" it will always boot into recovery mode. otherwise just do the home+power reset thing. Aug 26 18:37:05 acfrazier, sorry to contradict, but it is possible to totally brick it :( Aug 26 18:37:06 c0ns0le|away: it's bootie Aug 26 18:37:15 but yes, if it's "borked" or just not working, it will do as you say Aug 26 18:37:15 hence bricked in quotes Aug 26 18:37:20 acfrazier: k. so i'd presume in recovery mode, non of the partitions etc... are mounted and being sourced or used? Aug 26 18:37:21 true, missed the quotes Aug 26 18:37:29 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie Aug 26 18:37:36 ^ Aug 26 18:37:37 hopefully this is what the onboard 1gb is for. Aug 26 18:37:43 acfrazier: that is, if you don't overwrite your recovery partition Aug 26 18:37:51 right Aug 26 18:37:59 if it's truly bricked you're fucked. Aug 26 18:38:12 sampson: and of course eventually we'll ant to see cwm on the rec part. Aug 26 18:38:14 mmhm, poor guy totally b0rked his Aug 26 18:38:24 c0ns0le|away: HAHAHA best of luck with that Aug 26 18:38:29 but ok that was a great laugh Aug 26 18:38:33 most of people toss around "bricked" loosely Aug 26 18:38:40 -of Aug 26 18:38:46 yeah, that's a point Aug 26 18:38:54 sampson: i wouldn't see a reason why it isn't possible Aug 26 18:38:56 your best approach would just be to use metadoctor to build a "rom" Aug 26 18:38:56 bricked is (for me) something non recoverable without jtag Aug 26 18:39:04 Pulser: agreed. Aug 26 18:39:12 to most devs that's what it is Aug 26 18:39:16 ie. the "soft brick" on samsung phones Aug 26 18:39:18 is not a brick at all Aug 26 18:39:22 rather, some partition is broke Aug 26 18:39:24 say the radio Aug 26 18:39:29 so reflash it via ODIN Aug 26 18:39:32 Even if you don't get CWM on th recovery partition, you can use the bootstrap method that the DroidX and Droid 2 originally had to use. Aug 26 18:39:32 and problem solved Aug 26 18:39:36 Pulser: any idea what the blank port is on the wifi only version? Aug 26 18:39:41 which one? Aug 26 18:39:48 Pulser: on the right side bottom. Aug 26 18:39:52 it's an empty microsim slot iirc Aug 26 18:39:52 Getting into bootie mode is as easy as holding the volume-up key while plugging the phone into USB while the phone is in the "off" state. The novaterm/novaproxy programs can then be used to talk to bootie. - Holy shit. That's practically jtag like. Awesome! Aug 26 18:39:53 I am thinking there's one perhaps for future SIM card Aug 26 18:39:53 sim slot Aug 26 18:39:58 lol Aug 26 18:40:00 sim slot, no connection Aug 26 18:40:11 dunno why the hell that was even there Aug 26 18:40:13 roadkill, basically, although not as robust as JTAG Aug 26 18:40:23 acfrazier: uh because they planned on selling this to carriers. Aug 26 18:40:25 you can easily lose that if you wanted to, and perma brick in one or two steps :( Aug 26 18:40:27 is it possible to pull out the tray all the way without breaking something? I couldn't pull out mine Aug 26 18:40:30 c0ns0le|away, yeah there are carrier models around Aug 26 18:40:33 acfrazier: expectation was to have radios in them. Aug 26 18:40:34 the plan was to eventually 3g versions Aug 26 18:40:44 acfrazier: It's a tray for the MicroSim for the planned 4G model... but where the card would go is filled in with more plastic. It connects to nothing, there's no radio inside the unit. Aug 26 18:40:50 I know that, but I mean the wifi-only iPad for example doesn't have a dormant sim slot Aug 26 18:40:55 yup, it's a blanking plate Aug 26 18:40:56 it's what I call lazy Aug 26 18:40:59 it's not a proper tray AFAIK Aug 26 18:41:06 unless someone has removed it already? Aug 26 18:41:20 btw, I was thinking about recovery earlier Aug 26 18:41:22 it's called cheaper Aug 26 18:41:26 we SHOULD be able to use the samsung method Aug 26 18:41:33 of putting the recovery binary into the ramdisk Aug 26 18:41:44 then using init scripts to run that binary from the ramdisk Aug 26 18:41:48 acfrazier: doesn't make financial sense to make boards w/o compoenents if it's modular. Aug 26 18:41:51 rather than needing dedicated partitions Aug 26 18:41:54 lol, eval- i just call you my guy Aug 26 18:41:59 i feel a bit homo Aug 26 18:42:07 acfrazier: ie they'll build the board out but not solder the module in. Aug 26 18:42:08 etc.. Aug 26 18:42:15 why do you want an alternate recovery anyways? or is the android community hoping to make android on the touchpad like the rest of the horrible "roms" for devices Aug 26 18:42:20 wonder if you could put one in Aug 26 18:42:24 meh, noone's a homo if it leads to AOSP on the touchpad Aug 26 18:42:25 SuperSweetTweaks 9.142 WITH SENSE Aug 26 18:42:25 like, is there software support for it Aug 26 18:42:29 sampson, I don't know tbh Aug 26 18:42:38 I just know people want it (read people = n00bs) Aug 26 18:42:41 +fixed battery issues Aug 26 18:42:56 -i have no idea how i stole it from supasweet OMNIROOOOOM Aug 26 18:43:03 ah you know what, I remembered there's no radio.. nvm Aug 26 18:43:13 k Aug 26 18:43:13 thought i was in a room full of android people. didn't realize the mixed company. Aug 26 18:43:16 so before leaving Aug 26 18:43:19 to recap Aug 26 18:43:38 expectation would be to have a android device which is capable of cm7 or other roms. Aug 26 18:43:38 craptain explain last night how to mount system Aug 26 18:43:59 eval-, just told us how to mount and get it working better Aug 26 18:44:00 appears I lost my +v while I was afk too.. maybe because of the netsplit Aug 26 18:44:15 and rainlake bricked a touchpad rip Aug 26 18:44:19 we are now missing the bootie Aug 26 18:44:30 so if you guys could concentrate on bootie Aug 26 18:44:36 bootie is on every touchpad SamCripp or do you mean the settings on an android tp Aug 26 18:44:53 it would make mounting and troubleshooting the images we have easier Aug 26 18:44:58 as more people can do it Aug 26 18:45:01 so please guys Aug 26 18:45:07 concentrate on figuring out bootie Aug 26 18:45:09 SamCripp: would need a TP running android Aug 26 18:45:10 i got to go work Aug 26 18:45:14 no Aug 26 18:45:15 bootie is extremely simple Aug 26 18:45:20 bootie is on everyandrpoid Aug 26 18:45:28 sorry tp Aug 26 18:45:30 no android Aug 26 18:45:39 yes, i'm aware and it's fully documented here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie Aug 26 18:45:41 and i think craptain said something about android mode Aug 26 18:45:43 or bootloader Aug 26 18:45:43 there's no "figuring out" Aug 26 18:45:45 im not sure Aug 26 18:45:55 we would need an android touchpad to poke at it Aug 26 18:46:04 nah Aug 26 18:46:11 craptain mounted and booted last night Aug 26 18:46:19 no android tablet Aug 26 18:46:27 the settings on a webos tp is superfluous Aug 26 18:46:31 we just need to figure out the right settings Aug 26 18:46:38 all it is is stage 3 boot loader, you tell it an image to boot and it goes Aug 26 18:46:43 SamCripp, he did say we'd need the firmware for touch to work though Aug 26 18:46:52 did he Aug 26 18:46:53 hence, you need an android TP to see how it's setup in bootie Aug 26 18:46:59 i wasnt aware of that Aug 26 18:47:02 his version wasn't finding the touchscreen firmware Aug 26 18:47:09 acfrazier, Aug 26 18:47:12 we fixed that Aug 26 18:47:17 is not a missing firmware Aug 26 18:47:17 you did? Aug 26 18:47:20 is missing partitions Aug 26 18:47:29 the /persist Aug 26 18:47:29 ahh Aug 26 18:47:41 eval-, just disccus how to mount the rest of the partitions Aug 26 18:47:50 i hope you guys were paying attention Aug 26 18:47:58 only knowledge comes from him Aug 26 18:47:58 Did I reg right? Aug 26 18:48:00 i mean Aug 26 18:48:05 the guy is a neuroscientist Aug 26 18:48:08 *Cough* http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22063477/TouchDroidFULL.png Aug 26 18:48:17 anywho SamCripp - re bootie - you really don't need to play around with it if you have someone with an android device Aug 26 18:48:34 b00sted: nce. Aug 26 18:48:51 why do people always want to offer me time on their tablet Aug 26 18:48:55 just need the printenv Aug 26 18:48:56 i r4ather break mine Aug 26 18:49:09 SamCripp, people want android Aug 26 18:49:11 i rather go wild write a script to re partition my nand Aug 26 18:49:14 and will get it by any means needed Aug 26 18:49:22 and install it there forever Aug 26 18:49:30 and then come up with a method to dio for yall Aug 26 18:49:33 than to break yalls Aug 26 18:49:40 honestly i don't get the allure of froyo on a tablet but hey Aug 26 18:49:49 sampson: It's the apps. Aug 26 18:49:52 Not the OS. Aug 26 18:50:02 sampson, i'd rather have honeycomb imo Aug 26 18:50:05 If you had native APK execution on WebOS, people wouldn't bother. Aug 26 18:50:10 i guess Aug 26 18:50:29 when i had an evo i honestly didn't have many OMG apps i really needed past ones that made it not suck the battery dry Aug 26 18:50:29 i dont want froyo either Aug 26 18:50:39 so why not try to port this: http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/Android-solutions/Alien-Dalvik.aspx Aug 26 18:50:41 to the touchpad Aug 26 18:50:45 I'd actually prefer that: Being able to copy an APK to my Touchpad and installing that as an app in a card. Aug 26 18:50:51 but i do see people wanting to boot anything android <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< stupid Aug 26 18:50:54 so why not make it happen Aug 26 18:50:56 well, first off, it's illegal. Aug 26 18:51:00 then this channel will empty out Aug 26 18:51:00 who cares? Aug 26 18:51:04 make it freeware Aug 26 18:51:08 :P Aug 26 18:51:09 and then i will be able to get some people so we can forward port Aug 26 18:51:20 a lot of people care about the legalities Aug 26 18:51:24 has anybody here received their order from HP direct? Aug 26 18:51:25 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 26 18:51:30 there is already a port for the SoC Aug 26 18:51:31 mm13: yes Aug 26 18:51:39 it just need to be tweaked to work on the TP Aug 26 18:51:39 my 32gb came yesterday and my keyboard came today Aug 26 18:51:40 what kind of packaging do they use, a thick box? Aug 26 18:51:50 i wouldn't call it thick Aug 26 18:52:02 sampson: keyboard decent enough to type on? Aug 26 18:52:03 standard double box Aug 26 18:52:13 it's alright but the control key doesn't work in xterm via xecutah Aug 26 18:52:15 * mm13 wonders if its thin enough to be left between outer and inner door Aug 26 18:52:21 sampson: FUCK! That's why I got it. ;( Aug 26 18:52:28 my 32GB isn't cming in till sept 14 Aug 26 18:52:30 :( Aug 26 18:52:30 it's maybe 3" wide Aug 26 18:52:42 probably smaller Aug 26 18:52:59 1.8 Updates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5epUsP3IgKY Aug 26 18:53:00 mm13, it is Aug 26 18:53:02 it's something in the X11 keymapping Aug 26 18:53:02 awesome, thank you. now hopefully fedex won't be tards and will follow my instructions. Aug 26 18:53:06 haven't had time to play with the keymap though Aug 26 18:53:26 mm13, I asked for them to leave it on back porch.. they didn't.. just crammed it in the crevice between the wall and my front door Aug 26 18:53:31 I get my touchstone and case today. At least I won't have to worry about the force I have to use to plug in the MicroUSB cable. Aug 26 18:53:32 all 3 of them too Aug 26 18:53:45 i don't understand sometimes. Aug 26 18:54:04 I mean, the things weigh MAYBE 10 pounds combined, was the guy that lazy? Aug 26 18:54:15 i understand they are in a hurry, but c'mon Aug 26 18:54:39 bootargs-ramdisk = root=/dev/ram0 rw Aug 26 18:54:40 acfrazier: delivery guys never read the notes I put up, but they only ring the buzzer if there IS a note up. Otherwise they tag a slip on the door and run back withut hitting the buzzer. Aug 26 18:54:46 bootargs = root=/dev/mmcblk0p13 rootwait ro Aug 26 18:54:58 bootdevice = mmc0p12 Aug 26 18:55:11 roadkill: am anxious to find out if you can charge while in recovery mode, while connected to novaterm. Aug 26 18:55:15 lol Aug 26 18:55:20 is that android printenv? Aug 26 18:55:31 no rain Aug 26 18:55:34 same one as yours :( Aug 26 19:02:02 Oops, that kind of didn't work like I thought it did. Sorry about that. Aug 26 19:03:57 tyty Aug 26 19:04:31 If you want voice, PM-ask me politely and I will happily give it. Aug 26 19:04:44 Sorry about the out-of-control kick thing. Aug 26 19:04:46 guess the yoh bitch doesn't work? Aug 26 19:04:48 so, before 5 billion other people ask Aug 26 19:04:51 what the hell just happened Aug 26 19:04:57 is the project dead? Aug 26 19:05:02 no Aug 26 19:05:07 like, what were you trying to do Aug 26 19:05:20 empty things Aug 26 19:05:25 Mass-kick. Aug 26 19:05:26 kn_: No. It's just drama control. The project is elsewhere away from this shit. Aug 26 19:05:29 acfrazier: pm him , this is a great chance to keep things on topic. Aug 26 19:05:30 ;) Aug 26 19:05:33 so... Aug 26 19:05:36 back to the topic Aug 26 19:05:38 true that Aug 26 19:05:38 channel ? Aug 26 19:05:44 no Aug 26 19:05:48 recovery mode Aug 26 19:05:59 aka 'bootie' <--- makes one think of shooes. Aug 26 19:06:01 so I assume you have all seen this page by now Aug 26 19:06:04 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 26 19:06:07 is it useful for us? Aug 26 19:06:24 acfrazier: i'd presume not. i was checking that the other day as well. Aug 26 19:06:33 acfrazier, probably somewhat Aug 26 19:06:41 but only as reference Aug 26 19:06:48 acfrazier: first off from a licensing prespective, they are closed sourced drivers i thought for aurora or whatever the vid driver was. Aug 26 19:07:00 Alright Aug 26 19:07:05 stop PMing me unless you want voice. Aug 26 19:07:06 Thanks. Aug 26 19:07:11 jbruchon: go away, we're working.... lol Aug 26 19:07:17 lol Aug 26 19:07:25 c0ns0le|away, I understand taht. Aug 26 19:07:29 hm, I thought that was the point of the link, driver source Aug 26 19:07:33 I need to say a couple of things, ok? Aug 26 19:07:36 k Aug 26 19:07:42 heh... i'm a flunky don't thik i have a vote. Aug 26 19:08:00 1. I've taken away all AOP except for myself, ProTekk (since I've talked to him on the phone human-to-human) and MrMuffin, the channel founder. Aug 26 19:08:15 2. If you were an op and want it back, talk to me and I'll probably do it. Aug 26 19:09:14 inb4 ban Aug 26 19:09:58 dammit someone give me ops so I can ban that idiot Aug 26 19:10:02 lol Aug 26 19:10:10 Wow. Some people just can't behave themselves. Aug 26 19:10:58 * acfrazier wants in on the secret dev channel, but it will probably never happen.. sadfrog.png Aug 26 19:11:08 acfrazier, dev something Aug 26 19:11:42 we have stock 2.6.35 kernel with webos patches in the github if you want to fork and play with it Aug 26 19:11:43 For anyone wondering... The Touchstone dock is tiny. Looks like it's more suited to an android phone in size rather than the tablet. Aug 26 19:11:56 roadkill, yeah, it looks a lot bigger on the website Aug 26 19:12:02 It is TINY. Aug 26 19:12:08 the way you charge with the official case on is retarded too Aug 26 19:12:14 c0ns0le Aug 26 19:12:17 known novacom cmds: Aug 26 19:12:19 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Exploration_-_Various_Information#Novacom_Restore_Program Aug 26 19:12:24 obv printenv works too Aug 26 19:12:33 Guys, if you don't have voice and asked for it, please PM me again. Aug 26 19:12:52 I'm sorry, I'm making n00b IRC mistakes. Aug 26 19:12:57 heh Aug 26 19:13:00 learn2irc Aug 26 19:13:13 thanks. Aug 26 19:13:14 acfrazier: trying. Aug 26 19:13:23 Thanks. Aug 26 19:13:38 he did it wrong Aug 26 19:13:44 it's supposed to say erection reset by queer Aug 26 19:13:56 ooh, shiny Aug 26 19:14:07 acfrazier: beer does it tool. Aug 26 19:14:09 err tool Aug 26 19:14:25 s:ool:oo:g Aug 26 19:14:26 protip: nick ban is never efficient Aug 26 19:14:38 c0ns0le|away: so yeah, bootie is the bootloader, proprietary, same on all the palm hardware. obviously we got a lot of it documented in other work as part of webos-internals Aug 26 19:15:01 hrm Aug 26 19:15:07 fyi Aug 26 19:15:07 Modifications to the recovery process Aug 26 19:15:07 Between about 18% and 54% complete, you can novaterm into the device while it is being flashed, and modify the filesystem that will be run after the phone reboots (e.g. to touch /var/luna/preferences/ran-first-use). Aug 26 19:15:07 If you stay in a mounted directory, you can even cause the flashing to abort after the carrier apps are installed and just before the ROM is verified. This is another point where manual modifications can be made. Aug 26 19:15:07 After you have made your modifications, unmount any filesystems you have mounted and "tellbootie reboot". Aug 26 19:15:07 ANNOUNCEMENT: IN RETROSPECT MY MASSKICK COMMAND WAS REALLY STUPID, I APOLOGIZE, PLEASE STOP PM-ING ABOUT IT. Aug 26 19:15:13 destinal: I'm thrilled now that I know about bootie. Essentially makes the unit nearly brickproof. Aug 26 19:15:19 destinal: k. will hopefully dig in, in a few. Aug 26 19:15:25 jbruchon, did you put in the +o flag so I can reop when needed but not O so it won't AOP me? Aug 26 19:15:28 where's the touchdroid git repo? the link in the wiki doesn't seem to work Aug 26 19:15:31 voice? Aug 26 19:15:35 acfrazier, I dropped all AOPs for now. Aug 26 19:15:35 jbruchon: i'm not complaining Aug 26 19:15:35 +oO Aug 26 19:15:38 TY jbruchon :) Aug 26 19:15:39 !flags Aug 26 19:15:41 I'll give 'em back. Aug 26 19:15:41 !help Aug 26 19:15:51 kn_ try /help? Aug 26 19:15:53 well, with freenode AOP is really dumb Aug 26 19:15:55 !thereAreNoBots Aug 26 19:15:56 people shouldn't be sitting in here as ops anywho. Aug 26 19:16:00 True. Aug 26 19:16:00 roadkill: well, it does load from flash rather than ROM so don't kill the first part of flash Aug 26 19:16:07 no reason. unless needed Aug 26 19:16:08 i was seeing if public commands were turned on for this channel Aug 26 19:16:13 you can use botserv you kno Aug 26 19:16:16 know* Aug 26 19:16:19 even then you can simply use /msg chanserv Aug 26 19:16:24 and op that way. Aug 26 19:16:25 the flags you should set on channel admins are +votiA Aug 26 19:16:28 nm Aug 26 19:16:28 destinal: I really hate that practice. Something like bootie should always be a separate read only chip Aug 26 19:16:31 they have it disabled Aug 26 19:16:34 for example Aug 26 19:16:49 atheme has botserv but i guess freenode disables it Aug 26 19:16:57 nickserv Aug 26 19:17:05 ? Aug 26 19:17:06 roadkill: on the palm pre it's OMAP3430 based (same as nook color for what it's worth) and you can boot the SoC from USB without any bootloader Aug 26 19:17:09 :O it went through Aug 26 19:17:11 about time Aug 26 19:17:17 /CS FLAGS #touchdroid +votiA Aug 26 19:17:21 roadkill: I don't know if the Qualcomm chips have the same thing Aug 26 19:17:23 destinal: Oh, that's friggin nice. Aug 26 19:17:55 ARM and booting is still very new to me. My experience with it (and jtagging) is mostly limited to the Sheevaplug. Aug 26 19:18:14 What few ops exist: please do not -m the room Aug 26 19:18:15 understood? Aug 26 19:18:15 what those do is +vo lets you be either voice or op by asking chanserv, no idea what tiA does but it says those are recommended. Aug 26 19:18:24 I think t lets you change topic Aug 26 19:18:44 T is topic change by ops only Aug 26 19:18:49 N is no external messages Aug 26 19:18:51 roadkill: so Palm pre and pre2 is really brickproof, and I hope the new Qualcomm based palm stuff is too but we have yet to figure out how they do recovery if the bootloader on flash is missing (or for initial load etc) Aug 26 19:18:54 jbruchon, yes, but did you read what I said about flags Aug 26 19:19:04 +votiA for channel admins. Aug 26 19:19:18 thx. I saw someone say that HP is releasing Android for the touchpad in sept or oct. Lame... but curious. Aug 26 19:19:25 not messing with the first part of flash though you should be fine, ie replacing a kernel won't brick it Aug 26 19:19:33 oh Aug 26 19:19:33 destinal: Having a bootloader on the same storage chip as everything else kinda freaks me out, especially on a machine that effectively has no universal BIOS if the booting process gets hosed. Aug 26 19:19:35 derp Aug 26 19:19:53 you type /CS FLAGS #touchdroid +votiA Aug 26 19:19:59 that way it's not AOP, but they have it if needed Aug 26 19:20:04 roadkill: i'm with you. Aug 26 19:20:17 same Aug 26 19:20:18 roadkill: i'd rather see it on eeprom or something else. Aug 26 19:20:24 Oh lol didnt notice I was op'd lol Aug 26 19:20:31 errr Aug 26 19:20:33 voiced Aug 26 19:20:38 c0ns0le|away: A friend of mine had a Sheeva which had a bad sector on block 0. So. Yeah. Aug 26 19:20:39 anybody in here know how to get ahold of the guy that gave the dumps Aug 26 19:20:44 maybe AndroidBall does Aug 26 19:21:07 hey Aug 26 19:21:08 xda Aug 26 19:21:12 damageless: Androidball was the immediate person involved in both sets of dumps. So yes, he would be the one. Aug 26 19:21:13 kernel dump from zimage (maybe) Aug 26 19:21:14 http://pastebin.com/KW9K1wdR Aug 26 19:22:10 damageless: if you get ahold of said person... please get a dump of mmcblk0 and all the '0$'s Aug 26 19:22:14 MrDiode, maybe? Aug 26 19:22:32 yeah the guy guessed as to where kernel cfg ould be in zimage Aug 26 19:23:01 that's what I'm trying to do :P Aug 26 19:23:14 c0ns0le|away: IIRC, there was a problem dumping blk0, so we had to just grab each partition instead., Aug 26 19:23:29 there won't if he boots into recovery Aug 26 19:23:29 'problem' as in what kind. Aug 26 19:23:39 using the method I detailed in my thread Aug 26 19:23:44 at least most likely Aug 26 19:23:45 c0ns0le|away: We were really pinched for time, so I couldn't tell you exactly what the issue was. Aug 26 19:23:49 booting into recovery is cake. Aug 26 19:23:52 so he should be able to Aug 26 19:23:58 exactly Aug 26 19:24:15 he needs to boot into recovery where it shouldn't be mounted and then do it Aug 26 19:24:24 damageless: that was my point as welll Aug 26 19:24:44 damageless: ie if he's booting off recovery, it should be a base kernel w/ an hefty initramfs Aug 26 19:24:50 damageless: which holds the ram0 Aug 26 19:24:56 etc... etc.. Aug 26 19:25:00 yup Aug 26 19:25:12 but i'm not a dev so don't listen to me. Aug 26 19:25:12 ;) Aug 26 19:25:13 for now we should try reconstructing the image Aug 26 19:25:16 what would happen if he didnt manage to get novaterm open Aug 26 19:25:21 and webdr completed Aug 26 19:25:27 :X Aug 26 19:25:31 well drive I guess Aug 26 19:25:45 where is said user. Aug 26 19:25:48 that's the scary part, it would be destructive most likely Aug 26 19:25:52 hell i'm in hou... i'll drive to dallas. Aug 26 19:25:52 lol Aug 26 19:25:56 For those who don't know: Androidball was talking to the guy who owned the unit over Skype, telling him what commands to type while a bunch of us were in another channel getting play by plays and suggesting things to try based on results. So we had no direct eyes on everything yet managed to get someone who has never used Linux (owner of tablet is on a mac) to dump all of the blocks to Images. (Yes. Laugh. I'm just glad it worked out as well as it did w Aug 26 19:26:32 It wasn't perfect, but it was still a HUGE step forward. Aug 26 19:26:42 so the risk level is high if we have a non technical person trying to get into novaterm Aug 26 19:26:47 a lot of people must have their touchpads today. I can't get the update to download. lol Aug 26 19:26:47 Bingo. Aug 26 19:26:49 he could accidentally complete a webdr flash Aug 26 19:27:14 * c0ns0le|away grumbles... was deemed 'nescesary staff' and am forced to stay @ home all weekend due to the damned hurricane up in ny. Aug 26 19:27:16 then wed have to pay a ransom to an ebay or forum troll for one of the working ones Aug 26 19:27:24 MrDiode: We were trying *VERY* carefully to ensure that the DD command paths were correct and as safe as possible to execute, because... we ALL know how easy it is to nuke something with DD. Aug 26 19:27:30 friggen mother natural disaster.... Aug 26 19:27:44 Thanks Aug 26 19:27:54 agreed. risk level is going to be even higher if we try to get him to dump from recovery Aug 26 19:28:15 MrDiode: not if we script it up and know whats capable before hand. Aug 26 19:28:32 And risk level was already incredibly high when trying to step by step with someone who had no linux (much less, adb) knowledge. We got amazingly far with what constraints we were working within. Aug 26 19:28:33 MrDiode: ie can't you push a script to the device's filesystem once it's booted. Aug 26 19:28:33 With a dump are you not just copying, you aren't actually writting anything on the flash, so wheres the risk :P ? Aug 26 19:28:38 how do you script it up? put a timer on it? how will it know it is @ 12% Aug 26 19:28:40 Or am i wrong? Aug 26 19:28:51 Sorrowuk: A noob mistyping and nuking it. Aug 26 19:28:54 That's the risl. Aug 26 19:28:57 er risk Aug 26 19:28:58 probably best to try to just recreate then Aug 26 19:29:03 are the numbers in order? Aug 26 19:29:04 sorrow: to get to novaterm you have to start a webdr flash and interrupt it Aug 26 19:29:09 suppose, people should know not to make mistakes :P Aug 26 19:29:12 Sorrowuk: actually you are w/ a dump typically a 'dd' writes out to a file. Aug 26 19:29:16 This is just an idea, but what if we set up a remote desktop to his computer so that someone who knows what they're doing can run the Novacom commands? Aug 26 19:29:24 Sorrowuk: so 'dd if=input device of=output device' Aug 26 19:29:45 and since you can't really mount nfs on this thing or an external storage device you run the risk of overfilling the filesystem Aug 26 19:29:54 or possibly overwriting a physical device. Aug 26 19:29:55 yeah if you write the dump out to the wrong place you could be in trouble Aug 26 19:30:04 Sorrowuk: The person actually posessing the tablet is a total noob. He was being told, via skype, what to type by Androidball and the rest of us in IRC telling Androidball what to type. It was a very, very long and tense process of back and forth suggestions and results being typed out. Aug 26 19:30:06 someone know how the extra space is mounted? Aug 26 19:30:13 weve already done that dump though. Aug 26 19:30:14 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/block/mmcblk0 Aug 26 19:30:16 is it just extra space on / or is it a different partition Aug 26 19:30:19 might lead you to bad experience. Aug 26 19:30:23 now (as per damage) we need to try to do it again but while in recovery Aug 26 19:30:44 c0ns0le|away: That was EXACTLY what we were trying to avoid. Accidental mistypes and incorrect paths. Aug 26 19:30:47 not necessarily… we could recreate it would just be easier Aug 26 19:30:48 i have working adb into webos. you know you want it Aug 26 19:30:55 Guys, just so you know... Aug 26 19:30:55 Where is this guy who has the android touchpad at the moment ? Aug 26 19:31:02 I expect all communication to be strictly development-related. Aug 26 19:31:07 roadkill: so recommend this. if you're able eto get into recovery and push a file to the /tmp Aug 26 19:31:11 but the more I look at it, the more I think we should just try to recreate it. Does somebody have a list somewhere of which partitions are which? Aug 26 19:31:12 Off-topic chat will constitute -v from now on. Aug 26 19:31:21 jbruchon: my panties are on fire. Aug 26 19:31:23 Seems that for now that's not a problem. Aug 26 19:31:26 does that count. Aug 26 19:31:34 Nah, that's fine. Aug 26 19:31:38 lol. j/j Aug 26 19:31:38 A joke isn't gonna hurt. Aug 26 19:31:49 aight. so while in recovery Aug 26 19:31:49 I'm talking about more than one line meant to poke fun at me. Aug 26 19:31:55 damage is think thats the biggest problem Aug 26 19:31:57 Have fun; I'm going back to work. Aug 26 19:31:58 can you push a file to the /tmp dir. Aug 26 19:32:00 or something. Aug 26 19:32:02 we dont know which partitions are which Aug 26 19:32:05 and how to map them Aug 26 19:32:09 and it's even worse Aug 26 19:32:11 don't need a partition. Aug 26 19:32:13 because there are more in android Aug 26 19:32:14 it has ram no? Aug 26 19:32:20 than there are in webos Aug 26 19:32:27 we need him to get a partition map Aug 26 19:32:31 I put the command on my thread Aug 26 19:32:32 yep Aug 26 19:32:34 * hazymind planned on working on the maps/list for that after work today Aug 26 19:32:35 Where is the guy :P lol Aug 26 19:32:35 cat /proc/partitions Aug 26 19:32:45 then we can recreate the partitions Aug 26 19:32:55 and push the right data to the right places Aug 26 19:32:59 I'm just surprised, by this point, there isn't a universal rom or bios for ARM that would simply look for the first storage device enabled for booting. Accidentally erasing something like Bootie freaks me the fuck out. Aug 26 19:33:02 and done theoretically Aug 26 19:33:10 agreed Aug 26 19:33:13 @ roadkill Aug 26 19:33:45 c0ns0le|away: When we tried that command (cat /proc/partitions) we got an error. Couldn't even do that. Aug 26 19:33:47 See with a touchpad running this android with these partition, does webos doctor still work ? And can you flash back webos :P Aug 26 19:33:57 roadkill: output terminal issue? Aug 26 19:34:00 if anybody wants the adb patches, you know where to find me Aug 26 19:34:02 roadkill: do you know what the issue was? Aug 26 19:34:05 why would you do that? Aug 26 19:34:05 c0ns0le|away: Lemme see if I can find it. Aug 26 19:34:08 jon Aug 26 19:34:16 detail it Aug 26 19:34:32 and what adb commands work? Aug 26 19:34:40 adb flipping works. and if you run adbd on webos, it will even work there Aug 26 19:34:46 shell is all i tested Aug 26 19:34:59 roadkill could be an alt route Aug 26 19:35:05 Hopefully the guy with android will still help us, and come into here, or go on the forum or something sometime soon :) Aug 26 19:35:22 * jbruchon is away: Working! Aug 26 19:35:24 getting a tech newb to set up adb for webos would be fun in and of itself though Aug 26 19:35:24 jbruchon: any idea if we are logging this chat to a archive so we cacn catch up on it? Aug 26 19:35:44 ie when i'm not here and connected, i'd like to be able to go back and look through the days logs lol... <--- is lazy. Aug 26 19:35:44 i've got chatlogs if anyone needs them down the road Aug 26 19:35:59 dethlselin: your name reminds me of desitin. Aug 26 19:36:02 Logging now! Aug 26 19:36:07 MrDiode i have statically linked armv7 adbd binaries Aug 26 19:36:10 dethlselin: are you a ointment..... Aug 26 19:36:19 i think of "Death of a Salesman" Aug 26 19:36:55 jon if you can put the patches on multiupload it can only help. maybe adb will afford us more commands than nova Aug 26 19:37:21 k. i'm off to figure ouot where i lost novaterm to. Aug 26 19:37:26 the kernel should boot fandroid a little bit at least Aug 26 19:37:26 --- Aug 26 19:37:29 08:39 <@Droidball> it gives /proc/mtd no such file or directory Aug 26 19:37:29 08:39 <+b1six|sleep> try cat /proc/emmc Aug 26 19:37:29 08:40 <@fnj00> cat /proc/partitions/ Aug 26 19:37:29 08:40 <@Droidball> cat /proc/emmc gives same Aug 26 19:37:31 08:41 <@Droidball> cat /proc/partitions/ gives same Aug 26 19:37:34 --- Aug 26 19:37:41 "no such file or directory" Aug 26 19:37:55 it's not '/proc/partitions/' Aug 26 19:37:59 it's /proc/partitions Aug 26 19:38:10 would be interesting to see if parted is built into his system like it is ours Aug 26 19:38:18 we had him make sure he typed it right. without the trailing slash (i condensed the logs) and it didn't work Aug 26 19:38:18 if not he could copy the binary over Aug 26 19:38:20 probably Aug 26 19:38:32 roadkill: ah k. Aug 26 19:38:37 It was a weird one, c0ns0le|away Aug 26 19:38:44 It's why it took us nearly 4 hours to get the dump we did Aug 26 19:38:49 did someone get a 'mount' Aug 26 19:38:52 or a 'df -ht' Aug 26 19:38:56 lemme check Aug 26 19:39:02 yeah that would be useful too Aug 26 19:39:04 Everyone who has voice: please nominate someone else to be an op, that can swiftly deal with problematic people in my absence. Aug 26 19:39:08 could you post the entire irc log on pastebin? Aug 26 19:39:16 farchord Aug 26 19:39:17 * c0ns0le|away hides. Aug 26 19:39:23 Araya213 Aug 26 19:39:49 farchord seemed to step up during the last outburst Aug 26 19:39:57 agreed Aug 26 19:39:58 lol, I forgot about farchord, I suck Aug 26 19:40:00 gee, I'm blushing lol Aug 26 19:40:05 LITTLE BIT OF SPAM INCOMING..... Aug 26 19:40:07 ------------- Aug 26 19:40:11 # df /dev: 410928K total, 0K used, 410928K available (block size 4096) Aug 26 19:40:11 /system: 153376K total, 110392K used, 42984K available (block size 4096) Aug 26 19:40:11 /data: 151136K total, 86356K used, 64780K available (block size 4096) Aug 26 19:40:11 /system/etc/firmware/misc: 204580K total, 4964K used, 199616K available (block size 4096) Aug 26 19:40:14 /mnt/asec: 410928K total, 0K used, 410928K available (block size 4096) Aug 26 19:40:16 /mnt/sdcard: 14301760K total, 24800K used, 14276960K availab Aug 26 19:40:19 -------------- Aug 26 19:40:26 oh that's perfect Aug 26 19:40:34 woohooo. Aug 26 19:40:37 we found sdcard Aug 26 19:40:38 14GB of the internal 16GB was partitioned as SDCard Aug 26 19:40:49 which is just the nand Aug 26 19:40:51 thats likely not a part it formants. Aug 26 19:40:53 to make it work with android Aug 26 19:40:54 yep Aug 26 19:40:56 only problem is that you posted in irc :( Aug 26 19:41:07 just a compatibility mount Aug 26 19:41:24 hmm. Aug 26 19:41:31 do yo have a' mount' Aug 26 19:41:33 It also explains why the Youtube video only showed some what? 100MB for installed app space? Aug 26 19:41:37 * HCDemon|work smacks jbruchon with a motherboard Aug 26 19:41:40 c0ns0le|away: Lemme check Aug 26 19:41:53 okay well that's closer… next step is going to be using parted to manually modify/wipe partitions we need Aug 26 19:41:54 would be good to see the fs. Aug 26 19:42:07 damageless: sfdisk would be good as well. Aug 26 19:42:23 sfdisk -d mmcblk0 > mmcblk0.sfdisk Aug 26 19:42:26 we have sfdisk? Aug 26 19:42:32 jbruchon: Got a sec to talk? Got some q's that I prefer not to ask openly in channel. Aug 26 19:42:32 I don't think we did. Aug 26 19:42:34 I didn't see that available Aug 26 19:42:42 We only had dd for the most part Aug 26 19:42:47 well we have parted Aug 26 19:42:49 which is why I mentioned that Aug 26 19:42:54 then you can take that and do a 'sfdisk -f /dev/block/ < sfdisk.img' Aug 26 19:42:58 mmmmm.... love me some sfdisk. Aug 26 19:43:01 heh Aug 26 19:43:05 farchord: pm me Aug 26 19:43:16 roadkill: i'm a linux zealot.... i can't help it. Aug 26 19:43:28 ;) Aug 26 19:43:33 can someone msg me the private github addy? Aug 26 19:43:42 finding a result for "mount" might be a bit tricky with the logsearch. Aug 26 19:44:10 roadkill: 'grep -i mount' Aug 26 19:44:10 is there github set up? I'd like that too if possible Aug 26 19:44:10 ? Aug 26 19:45:01 _clears his throat_ Aug 26 19:45:07 ^^^^^^^^^ Aug 26 19:45:44 c0ns0le|away: I don't think we ever did that command... We were pressed for time (people had to get to work) so we were trying to find the block layouts and paths ASAP so we could get the dumps going Aug 26 19:45:56 We couldn't poke around as much as we would have liked to at that point Aug 26 19:46:17 roadkill: k. any idea if we could rent some time from him? Aug 26 19:46:18 lol Aug 26 19:46:32 c0ns0le|away: Androidball should be able to get in touch with the guy again, can't see why he can't. Aug 26 19:46:36 roadkill: i'll donate 20$ to him for an hour of time. Aug 26 19:46:47 lol Aug 26 19:47:02 Will Androidball be around later on here ? Aug 26 19:48:52 aight off to find charge cable... Aug 26 19:48:57 phones about to die on me. Aug 26 19:49:50 damage youstill here Aug 26 19:50:32 So I talked to the guy with the Android touchpad this morning… he said I could have some time later this afternoon/evening Aug 26 19:50:45 trsohmers will play nice and ignore trolls now. If not, Farchord's authorized to kickban him. And you if you're the troll. So be nice. Aug 26 19:51:02 lol Aug 26 19:51:06 ha. Aug 26 19:51:13 If anyone's trying to troll, just ignore them and let the ops deal with it. Don't respond and add to the pile. Aug 26 19:51:15 c0ns0le|away: or anyone else…is there anything you want want me to get? Aug 26 19:51:18 tr, advise him to use parted to get partition tables Aug 26 19:51:34 you missed a huge convo on that trsohmers Aug 26 19:51:35 or do a dump from novaterm that way 0 is unlocked Aug 26 19:51:36 trsohmers: i could use some lunch? Aug 26 19:51:37 j/j Aug 26 19:51:39 roadkill: hear, hear. Development or ban, I say. Gotta go back to work. Love you guys. Aug 26 19:51:43 * jbruchon is away: Working. Aug 26 19:51:48 MrDiode: What would be awesome is if you could compile a list of stuff for me that are needed… I have a fairly small list so far Aug 26 19:51:57 does 'parted' even exist with stock Android? Aug 26 19:52:03 roadkill prob has more detail Aug 26 19:52:14 on what is requested Aug 26 19:52:21 hrmmm. Interesting. Yeah, give that a try... Aug 26 19:52:28 If anyone trolls and I miss it toss me a private message, can't ALWAYS be here lol XD Aug 26 19:52:30 c0ns0le|away: If you could get me a list of the stuff you said, that would be great Aug 26 19:52:31 i am stuck in recovery Aug 26 19:52:44 also, jonry has successfully patched adbd into webos Aug 26 19:52:56 i'll work something up. Aug 26 19:53:07 c0ns0le|away: Thanks Aug 26 19:53:18 c0ns0le you asked for all avail recovery cmds Aug 26 19:53:19 i'm trying to figure out what tools we have first. Aug 26 19:53:19 MrDiode: Hold down the power and "home" button for 15 seconds Aug 26 19:53:23 i mean is it a busybox Aug 26 19:53:28 or jailed env. Aug 26 19:53:29 etc.. Aug 26 19:53:32 c0ns0le|away: within android? Aug 26 19:53:35 go into recovery and type help Aug 26 19:53:38 c0ns0le|away: or webOS? Aug 26 19:53:42 ty :) Aug 26 19:53:46 trsohmers: adroid. Aug 26 19:53:57 Well it was pre rooted Aug 26 19:54:08 and I don't think busybox was installed… I'll have to check Aug 26 19:54:15 so it came rooted thats good Aug 26 19:54:21 no Aug 26 19:54:24 trsohmers: right, but would be nice to know what command sets we'll have. Aug 26 19:54:27 busybox wasn't included Aug 26 19:54:32 still here Aug 26 19:54:33 what's up Aug 26 19:54:38 I'm good friends with Stericson… I'll see if he can send the busybox installer application. Aug 26 19:54:38 Sorrowuk: doesn't much matter if you're in a recovery img. Aug 26 19:54:46 Well, actually I have the busybox files on my computer here Aug 26 19:54:46 damage, trsohmers is going to have time w/ the android tab guy today Aug 26 19:54:48 Sorrowuk: thats the important part... Aug 26 19:54:49 huh? Aug 26 19:54:52 anything you want to know, ask him Aug 26 19:54:56 can't you just copy to device? Aug 26 19:54:57 it may be a different recovery img. Aug 26 19:54:58 from internal? Aug 26 19:55:05 myn: they tried. failed Aug 26 19:55:11 how did they "try" Aug 26 19:55:14 sigh Aug 26 19:55:15 myn: they weren't in recovery. Aug 26 19:55:22 myn: _nodds) Aug 26 19:55:26 was my question. Aug 26 19:55:28 OK guys, if you have anything you want to get or have anything to ask to the guy who has the Touchpad with 2.2 froyo preinstalled… please PM me a list Aug 26 19:55:32 do they have adb? Aug 26 19:55:36 It's just easier that way so I can see that afterwards Aug 26 19:55:41 myn: it ws in adb yes.. Aug 26 19:55:43 trsohmers: Promise me something, that you are VERY CAREFUL with this guy in recovery... and not to accidentally mistype anything that could erase stuff. Aug 26 19:55:45 myn: It has ADB Aug 26 19:55:53 trsohmers when should the guy be available ? Aug 26 19:55:54 and you can adb push busybox /system/xbin ? Aug 26 19:56:01 roadkill: I am always as careful as possible Aug 26 19:56:02 and chmod 777 /xbin/busybox ? Aug 26 19:56:10 myn: your thinking ahead Aug 26 19:56:13 myn: I have a busybox installer script for android I made a while back Aug 26 19:56:16 myn: it has to work in recovery. Aug 26 19:56:21 It's a pretty old version of busybox, though Aug 26 19:56:21 sure Aug 26 19:56:22 thats fine.. Aug 26 19:56:27 myn: or it will be the same results being seen now. Aug 26 19:56:27 execute it Aug 26 19:56:30 busybox whateverCommand Aug 26 19:56:38 fyi c0ns0le tab does NOT charge while in recovery. either that or USB charges less power than it uses Aug 26 19:56:45 MrDiode: thnx. Aug 26 19:56:52 this isn't rocket science guys Aug 26 19:56:56 so that'll limit time doing the work. Aug 26 19:57:07 myn: sproket science. Aug 26 19:57:08 If I had the device in hand this would be done by now Aug 26 19:57:09 Again, if you have anything you want me to do on it…. please send me a PM with a list or whatever Aug 26 19:57:28 leaving now Aug 26 19:57:30 myn: whats that in your hand now... oh thats not the device... ;) Aug 26 19:57:31 j/j Aug 26 19:57:34 MrDiode: Tablet requires 2A, USB port gives 500mA. It won't charge in PC mode. Period. Aug 26 19:58:01 Is there not a way to just copy all the partitions with all the contents to one file, then you can write this one file back to any touchpad with dd and it will recreate all the partitions with all the contents. Like an exact clone ? Aug 26 19:58:12 wont it just charge at slower speed on pc? that is what my galaxy tab does Aug 26 19:58:13 that is /dev/mmcblk0 Aug 26 19:58:14 no. Aug 26 19:58:22 and no. Aug 26 19:58:24 two nos. Aug 26 19:58:36 dont two no's make a yes? Aug 26 19:58:50 so why dont we just get a dd of /dev/mmcblk0 Aug 26 19:58:57 we couldnt Aug 26 19:58:59 that was the problem Aug 26 19:59:01 Sorrowuk: That's what we are planning on doing Aug 26 19:59:04 that's what I was saying earlier :P Aug 26 19:59:05 which is why we want to try to do it in recovery Aug 26 19:59:06 Sorrowuk: It was locked IIRC Aug 26 19:59:07 :P Aug 26 19:59:07 but now they said that they tried that Aug 26 19:59:11 exactly Aug 26 19:59:12 but FIRST Aug 26 19:59:24 we want to make sure that we can get as much info as possible Aug 26 19:59:34 because recovery COULD wipe it out… if he doesn't pull the cable at the right time/fast enough Aug 26 19:59:35 We couldn't get the blk0, so we grabbed the individual partitions instead. Best we could do at the time. Aug 26 19:59:35 damageless: get out your flow chart. Aug 26 19:59:35 MrDiode: Do you know if the recovery mode on the Froyo Touchpad is like the regular touchpad? Aug 26 19:59:35 ;) Aug 26 19:59:51 no idea Aug 26 20:00:06 roadkill where is nova recovery stored Aug 26 20:00:06 I gotta get to sleep. have fun guys. Aug 26 20:00:12 could it have been overwritten Aug 26 20:00:12 cya RK Aug 26 20:00:15 MrDiode: No clue. Aug 26 20:00:16 lmfa0.... i forgot this was running: Aug 26 20:00:25 You've NYANED for Aug 26 20:00:25 74445.4seconds Aug 26 20:00:26 Tweet Your Score Aug 26 20:00:31 does android not have its own recovery partition Aug 26 20:00:39 Sorrowuk: yes. Aug 26 20:00:56 MrDiode: c0ns0le|away damageless :: Do you guys know anything about the recovery on the guys device? Aug 26 20:00:56 so it will be different than the recovery that our touchpad has Aug 26 20:01:11 trsohmers: no, so i'm planning for the worst. Aug 26 20:01:16 Correction on the USB port charging... it can negotiate a draw of up to 1A Aug 26 20:01:17 c0ns0le|away: Good Aug 26 20:01:18 zero Aug 26 20:01:19 trsohmers: and tryingj to figure out what i can do Aug 26 20:01:34 do we know if we can push files and pull files? Aug 26 20:01:42 we could with jonry's adb patches Aug 26 20:01:43 we can write a script. Aug 26 20:01:46 roadkill: didn't you find out a way to not have doctor running and still run commands? Aug 26 20:01:48 but he didnt upload them Aug 26 20:01:50 We should start of safe, get everything we can, when we have done everything possible, go for the more risky stuff :P Aug 26 20:01:51 msg him Aug 26 20:01:54 and just have im pull that. Aug 26 20:02:00 then execute the script. Aug 26 20:02:15 ie leaving it up to tested code instead of tried typing. Aug 26 20:02:28 Sorrowuk: I think we have that "safe" already Aug 26 20:03:35 See on the touchpad when i was looking at the internal files, there was some stuff in tokens with like your touchpad serial number and device specific stuff, is this stuff not important cause if people flashed android would this not be deleted ? Aug 26 20:04:10 Sorrowuk: thats similar to an esf Aug 26 20:04:19 Sorrowuk: i'd guess. Aug 26 20:05:01 yeah so surely we dont want to flash all the partitions we get off this guys android touchpad or we will get his efs with his touchpad specific stuff Aug 26 20:05:20 OK, so if you guys can work on a list and stuff so I don't leave anything out or fuck something up… that would be great Aug 26 20:05:31 Not saying that I would fuck something up, but I think of the worst and hope for the bes Aug 26 20:05:32 t Aug 26 20:05:47 s:think:plan:g Aug 26 20:06:19 would be nice if this damned thing would just bootp for an img. Aug 26 20:07:06 get your adb capable kernel here: https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp Aug 26 20:07:25 there we go Aug 26 20:07:30 jonpry: I love you. No homo Aug 26 20:07:56 boot some android with that thing before i do Aug 26 20:08:13 heh ..... 'usb transfer commands' Aug 26 20:08:20 oh that sounds fun. Aug 26 20:08:21 farchord: Could you give Pulser voice? Aug 26 20:08:26 He's a dev Aug 26 20:08:33 Sure. Aug 26 20:08:59 'charging' Aug 26 20:09:03 ty Aug 26 20:09:04 interesting. Aug 26 20:09:06 nm Aug 26 20:09:08 *np Aug 26 20:09:45 * farchord goes back to watching Star Trek: TNG with one eye, watching the channel with another. (And they wonder why I'm cross-eyed...) Aug 26 20:09:54 it's adb. for webos. nothing new to android people but super awesome that we arent restricted to nova anymore Aug 26 20:10:26 pulser come help us :P Aug 26 20:10:29 right Aug 26 20:10:32 i'm going to try booting android with rootfs in a ramdisk Aug 26 20:10:35 so you have an adb kernel Aug 26 20:10:44 yep Aug 26 20:10:46 nice one Aug 26 20:10:50 would be nice to get adb going in recovery Aug 26 20:10:53 ok let me think Aug 26 20:10:54 Crap, my battery is dead Aug 26 20:11:00 rootfs is usually in the ramdisk, isn't it? Aug 26 20:11:05 or are we crossing terminology here Aug 26 20:11:17 i mean the whole shebang. /system /data Aug 26 20:11:19 to me, rootfs is the actual / and its subfolders Aug 26 20:11:20 Oh Aug 26 20:11:21 I see :) Aug 26 20:11:22 right Aug 26 20:11:27 trsohmers, I know how to charge it! You need 100ft of steel wire, a clock tower and a thundery weather! Aug 26 20:11:34 LMFAO Aug 26 20:11:36 good luck jon Aug 26 20:11:42 farchord: And we'll go Back to the future! Aug 26 20:11:44 or... we could go to amazon's cloud datacenter Aug 26 20:11:49 and put up a lightning rod Aug 26 20:11:54 anyway Aug 26 20:12:01 you can package up a ramdisk with the uImage and get bootie to run it Aug 26 20:12:05 right Aug 26 20:12:09 trsohmers, Hopefully. Hah, I'm kind of glad a guy of your age knows of a classic like BTTF :) Aug 26 20:12:16 yeah, let me check bootie syntax Aug 26 20:12:27 BTTF = my favorite movie ever. Aug 26 20:12:30 farchord: I grew up with BTTF, Star Trek TNG, Stargate, etc etc Aug 26 20:12:41 hehehehe Aug 26 20:13:00 its a matter of combining them with mkimage, then its just novacom boot mem:// < mybigfucker Aug 26 20:13:12 Jewel Staite is so freakin' cute in Stargate Atlantis.... Aug 26 20:13:13 correct Aug 26 20:13:20 and hopefully Aug 26 20:13:23 no brick Aug 26 20:13:24 :P Aug 26 20:13:43 farchord: Amanda Tapping. Met her at two conventions Aug 26 20:13:48 yes, I am a nerd that goes to conventions Aug 26 20:13:52 less brick than putting stuff on the flash Aug 26 20:14:02 hehe, I live in a social hole, no conventions here Aug 26 20:14:06 trsohmers: we never doubted that..... ;)j/j Aug 26 20:14:18 jonpry, that is a nice method :) Aug 26 20:14:25 less comicon more dev plz Aug 26 20:14:28 in fact... does android even have that via fastboot? Aug 26 20:14:39 I know of fastboot boot for a zimage Aug 26 20:14:46 but not sure if it can boot an entire ROM via it :P Aug 26 20:14:47 Pulser: fastboot can flash Aug 26 20:14:50 aye Aug 26 20:14:55 but flash != run from "memory" Aug 26 20:14:56 ;) Aug 26 20:15:02 its a matter of combining them with mkimage, then its just novacom boot mem:// < mybigfucker Aug 26 20:15:03 Pulser: dunno on that. Aug 26 20:15:10 yeah I know I used to fastboot boot kernels Aug 26 20:15:12 never whole roms though Aug 26 20:15:13 +D Aug 26 20:15:15 =D* Aug 26 20:15:25 its a new age Aug 26 20:15:52 Fastboot here: http://i.imgur.com/D8Y5I.jpg Aug 26 20:15:56 when jbruchon comes back ping me please Aug 26 20:16:40 why on earth would you want to switch bootloaders? Aug 26 20:25:26 c0ns0le|away: you there? Aug 26 20:26:43 yeah I would think bootie would be just fine for loading android Aug 26 20:27:04 after all HP's stock TP kernel is an android kernel anyhow Aug 26 20:27:28 destinal: Yep Aug 26 20:38:45 Wow, so no one likes talking here anymore? Aug 26 20:38:56 lol Aug 26 20:39:07 I prefer that than useless prattle or drama Aug 26 20:39:16 farchord: True Aug 26 20:39:27 right, dunno if this is relevant Aug 26 20:39:31 but I was looking in that dum Aug 26 20:39:32 it's time for friday beer meeting Aug 26 20:39:33 p Aug 26 20:39:43 and it appears as though it WAS built from the sources I found earlier Aug 26 20:39:46 the Code Aurora ones Aug 26 20:39:54 there's a comment in one of the rc files indicating that Aug 26 20:40:12 had to step away. Aug 26 20:40:19 now trying to find novaterm. Aug 26 20:40:21 etc.. Aug 26 20:40:35 whoa Aug 26 20:40:37 whoa Aug 26 20:40:39 20m ago Aug 26 20:40:40 http://twitter.com/#!/androidball/status/107185175162654720 Aug 26 20:41:22 ruh roh Aug 26 20:41:28 lol Aug 26 20:41:52 :| Aug 26 20:41:55 tr, ideas? Aug 26 20:42:27 oh great Aug 26 20:42:28 lol Aug 26 20:42:49 MrDiode: None Aug 26 20:43:02 OK Aug 26 20:43:03 my guess is that it has personal information or something… Aug 26 20:43:11 because if someone was able to get it to boot Aug 26 20:43:15 time to see if I can compile gingerbread for this target Aug 26 20:43:16 Craptain or whoever Aug 26 20:43:20 lol damageless I guess so Aug 26 20:43:22 thing is Aug 26 20:43:28 there's loads of copies out there Aug 26 20:43:30 damageless: One second….let me check Aug 26 20:43:33 yup Aug 26 20:43:54 if you are gonna post something, you check it N times Aug 26 20:43:56 for personal info Aug 26 20:43:57 shit Aug 26 20:44:01 trsohmers, what? Aug 26 20:44:03 yeah no kidding Aug 26 20:44:05 is there a /data Aug 26 20:44:05 ? Aug 26 20:44:06 Delete the dumps Aug 26 20:44:27 a little explanation would be nice Aug 26 20:44:27 I can't get to my copies right now as they are at work Aug 26 20:46:10 Too many people already have it. Aug 26 20:46:20 well yeah Aug 26 20:46:20 yeah Aug 26 20:46:26 it was sorta posted on a public forum Aug 26 20:46:28 :P Aug 26 20:47:03 called it Aug 26 20:47:04 anyways Aug 26 20:47:06 its out now Aug 26 20:47:34 although I will say this Aug 26 20:47:38 its useless to commonfolk Aug 26 20:47:39 damageless, indeed :) Aug 26 20:47:43 Yep Aug 26 20:47:46 you called it Aug 26 20:47:57 And let's hope most people that can read it aren't douchebags Aug 26 20:48:04 mmhm Aug 26 20:48:15 so if the devs that release this then we'll just have to say that we'll release it minus /data Aug 26 20:48:24 and whatever other personal information there is in there Aug 26 20:48:33 yep Aug 26 20:48:47 it would probably be better if this weren't publicized Aug 26 20:48:53 yes Aug 26 20:48:55 if nobody knows about it then nothing can get stolen Aug 26 20:49:01 because they won't be looking Aug 26 20:49:18 yep Aug 26 20:49:48 So let's shut up Aug 26 20:49:48 so can we commit all 318 members into the cone of silence? ha Aug 26 20:49:57 yup Aug 26 20:50:03 tell AndroBall not to tell anyone Aug 26 20:54:00 heh. Aug 26 20:54:04 i work in data security. Aug 26 21:09:53 so whats been happening :P Aug 26 21:09:57 we got anything new ? Aug 26 21:17:00 phew.. web os update site was really busy. had to reconnect it 20 some times. a lot of people must have just recieved the thing Aug 26 21:17:13 like me Aug 26 21:17:20 my app catalog is broken Aug 26 21:17:43 think its the network? Aug 26 21:17:49 Yep Aug 26 21:18:02 Is the guy with android on his touchpad around yet? Aug 26 21:18:18 well i'm finally getting to the preware part. lol Aug 26 21:20:04 So who are the developers? Retired people, rich people? That don't have to work or is this just their free time project? Aug 26 21:20:25 back Aug 26 21:20:44 MaxJr, trsohmers is rich, hes at MIT. Aug 26 21:20:46 :D Aug 26 21:20:48 MaxJr: Passion :) Aug 26 21:20:53 I'm not rich at all, lol Aug 26 21:21:01 quite far from it, heh Aug 26 21:21:07 lol Aug 26 21:21:13 If we did this for money, doing the math we'd be collecting less then a fraction of min wage.. Aug 26 21:22:23 i might learn c soon. It seems to be the way to go. Aug 26 21:22:54 C is such a bitch to learn. After that it's fine Aug 26 21:23:11 C is a great first language Aug 26 21:23:24 most languages are derivatives of it Aug 26 21:23:33 It would be great to help on stuff like this. I've been developing ms access databases and hardly know vb Aug 26 21:23:38 Yeb. C+, C++. Objective-C Aug 26 21:23:55 Objective C is NOTHING like C Aug 26 21:24:03 its SmallTalk basterdized Aug 26 21:24:03 objective C.do Dispose(); Aug 26 21:24:06 aye Aug 26 21:24:11 then of course linux and that i've messed with a little Aug 26 21:24:24 lol Aug 26 21:25:46 I wish i could use this old cell phone as a radio for the thing. Aug 26 21:28:42 trsohmers wheres the guy with the android touchpad ? Aug 26 21:28:50 I don't know Aug 26 21:30:10 he said he was coming on today did he? Aug 26 21:32:11 http://pastebin.com/KW9K1wdR Aug 26 21:37:45 CONFIG_PMIC8058_NFC=y Aug 26 21:37:55 # Aug 26 21:37:55 # NFC device support Aug 26 21:37:56 # Aug 26 21:37:56 CONFIG_NFC=y Aug 26 21:39:10 its prob not really a kernel for our device but it works Aug 26 21:40:35 That's the config.gz from the android device Aug 26 21:40:51 I'm just wondering why it says that there is NFC Aug 26 21:44:51 * farchord is hungry. Aug 26 21:47:54 ls Aug 26 21:47:56 whoops Aug 26 21:59:19 k. this is frustrating the shit out of me. Aug 26 21:59:27 I'm sorry... Aug 26 21:59:33 how the hell do you connect to the flippping device in recovery mode. Aug 26 21:59:44 easily Aug 26 21:59:48 i've tried novacom, i've tried ssh -p blah blah. Aug 26 22:00:01 read the damned putty files it has in the pdk Aug 26 22:00:10 novacom -t open tty://0 Aug 26 22:00:36 or novaterm Aug 26 22:00:40 if you have that Aug 26 22:03:36 hah. Aug 26 22:03:40 chg charge on Aug 26 22:03:41 ;) Aug 26 22:03:53 what? Aug 26 22:04:14 ] chg charge on Aug 26 22:04:14 chg charge on Aug 26 22:04:14 chg charge on command returned 0 Aug 26 22:04:14 ] Aug 26 22:04:15 ] chg detect Aug 26 22:05:18 Thanks farchord Aug 26 22:05:24 np Aug 26 22:05:29 trying to get simg2img to work Aug 26 22:05:36 Anybody mind sending me a link to the github? Aug 26 22:06:32 brb, gonna go take a very very quick nap, fyi I got logging enable, so no tom foolery! Aug 26 22:06:47 Have fun Aug 26 22:07:09 OK everyone, now that he's gone we can say how bad BTTF was :P Aug 26 22:07:31 MrDiode: aight.... uh how do you get it to refind the device lol. Aug 26 22:10:20 Ack, I'm having a rough time getting that dump on my touchpad Aug 26 22:10:53 ext4_utils wont compile for me Aug 26 22:10:54 grrr Aug 26 22:12:35 grrrr. Aug 26 22:12:39 ] chg combo Aug 26 22:12:39 chg combo Aug 26 22:12:39 Fri Aug 26 17:08:16 2011 novacomd socket was closed prematurely Aug 26 22:12:49 found a windows versiob Aug 26 22:12:50 weird Aug 26 22:13:29 novacom: unexpected EOF from server Aug 26 22:15:03 woohooo... lol Aug 26 22:15:13 least i can telll if my battery is dead Aug 26 22:15:38 SPAM> Aug 26 22:15:42 ] chg battery Aug 26 22:15:42 chg battery Aug 26 22:15:42 present = 1 Aug 26 22:15:42 authentic = 1 Aug 26 22:15:42 percentage = 46 Aug 26 22:15:44 voltage = 3664880 uV Aug 26 22:15:47 current = -488750 uA Aug 26 22:16:02 At least it is charging Aug 26 22:16:08 temperature = 3 Aug 26 22:16:15 what??? Aug 26 22:16:21 3 degrees celsius? Aug 26 22:16:23 That has to be wrong Aug 26 22:16:42 trsohmers: i must not be seeing that. where are you seeing it's charging. Aug 26 22:17:15 c0ns0le|away: Sorry, I was thinking that voltage was incoming power Aug 26 22:17:36 My mistake Aug 26 22:19:13 my TP is recharging, watched too many youtube videos Aug 26 22:19:31 okay so Aug 26 22:19:33 any updates? Aug 26 22:19:50 damnit... 'note to self' Aug 26 22:20:02 note> chg detect Aug 26 22:20:03 I started charging about 5 mins ago damageless so my guess it wont be done for another 4-5 hours Aug 26 22:20:08 causes novacomd to fail. Aug 26 22:20:33 gonna just try and do a force chg Aug 26 22:20:48 I thought force chg don't work Aug 26 22:22:12 hah. Aug 26 22:22:14 ;) Aug 26 22:22:27 ] chg charge on Aug 26 22:22:27 chg charge on Aug 26 22:22:27 chg charge on command returned 0 Aug 26 22:22:27 ] Aug 26 22:22:30 ] chg battery Aug 26 22:22:32 chg battery Aug 26 22:22:35 present = 1 Aug 26 22:22:37 authentic = 1 Aug 26 22:22:40 percentage = 45 Aug 26 22:22:42 voltage = 3679520 uV Aug 26 22:22:45 current = -136718 uA temperature = 32 Aug 26 22:22:47 capacity = 2512000 uAh Aug 26 22:22:50 chg battery command returned 0 Aug 26 22:22:52 ] Aug 26 22:22:55 ] chg battery Aug 26 22:22:57 chg battery Aug 26 22:23:00 btw, this is the dev forum right lol... i wont be booted for pasting stuff. Aug 26 22:23:03 as long as it's not like 200lines. Aug 26 22:23:11 the '-' denotes drain. Aug 26 22:23:16 on 'current' Aug 26 22:23:17 wait what Aug 26 22:23:23 what are we talking about batteries for? Aug 26 22:23:37 damageless: what good is it if you have to keep taking the device off to charge Aug 26 22:23:45 damageless: i'd wrather charge and work. Aug 26 22:24:05 woohoo and it's charging. Aug 26 22:24:25 using the touchstone to charge it while i have it usb'd to my laptop Aug 26 22:24:25 charging through usb? Aug 26 22:24:26 ;) Aug 26 22:24:28 oh Aug 26 22:24:29 ok Aug 26 22:24:41 sweet... Aug 26 22:24:45 nice job Aug 26 22:25:02 DarkRedFlame: have to get my street creds up man lol... Aug 26 22:25:08 i'm but a lowlyl linux person. Aug 26 22:25:36 Hahaha, it's all good, I used to be the same Aug 26 22:25:51 sure would be nice if someone would annotate the language used to run scripts w/i bootie. Aug 26 22:26:09 You're telling me Aug 26 22:27:05 webos internals Aug 26 22:27:17 Uggghh, people on rootzwiki are killing me Aug 26 22:27:31 They are assuming that the dump is already 100% compatible Aug 26 22:27:42 theyve been doing that since day 1 Aug 26 22:28:11 Oh look, a dump for android! How do I put this on my touchpad guys? Hurrr. Aug 26 22:29:00 Also nothing to report currently from my end, sorry guys Aug 26 22:29:00 k. what the hell is the 'msm8x60 spi driver Aug 26 22:29:10 DarkRedFlame: me neither. Aug 26 22:29:44 Sounds like it's the driver for the flash memory Aug 26 22:29:53 But I could be wrong Aug 26 22:30:07 http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/forum/index.php?/topic/73-analysis-of-qualcomm-msm8x60-msm8260msm8660-12ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-processor/ Aug 26 22:30:09 processor. Aug 26 22:30:26 And thus I am wrong. Aug 26 22:31:23 integrated low power GPS Aug 26 22:31:28 hmmm... Aug 26 22:31:46 found ext4 img pack/unpack for windows Aug 26 22:32:06 c0ns0le, only the 3G has it enabled Aug 26 22:32:19 i'd presume you could easily fix that. Aug 26 22:32:24 if you know the address. Aug 26 22:32:28 @Farchord - Nice link. I can try to get a hold of some of those phones if anyone needs a dump/anything else from them Aug 26 22:32:45 np Aug 26 22:33:40 oooooo Aug 26 22:33:44 geez i can't believe hp scrapped this hardware. Aug 26 22:33:52 The HP TouchPad continues to be a hot item among tech enthusiasts now that HP has discontinued the webOS-based tablet and is selling its remaining stock at fire sale price. Now that tablet just became an even better deal. Aug 26 22:33:57 As announced on HP's Palm blog page, the company has decided to give away six of the TouchPad's paid apps from now until August 31. The web site has the promo codes needed to access the free apps. Aug 26 22:34:06 The six apps included in this free giveaway include some games such as Sparkle HD, Big Boss and Kung Fu Panda Storybook 2. Other apps in this free giveaway include Glimpse, which gives the TouchPad a split screen interface; Camera for TouchPad which gives you some extra options for the TouchPad; and Audubon Birds, a searchable guide to birds living in the US. The total amount of all six apps is $30.95 USD if they were at their normal Aug 26 22:34:06 price points. HP is apparently planning to offer another set of TouchPad apps for free in early September. Aug 26 22:34:14 yeah saw that Aug 26 22:34:20 http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/08/6-pack.html Aug 26 22:34:24 and your spamming in my dev session lol... Aug 26 22:34:32 Sorry sorry Aug 26 22:35:36 What happened this morning? Aug 26 22:35:46 hmm.... boot.bin. Aug 26 22:36:02 thats an interesting idea... Aug 26 22:36:14 xaios, nothing afaik Aug 26 22:36:51 Thanks Aug 26 22:36:55 I'm not gonna lie, WebOS could of been a great OS if HP was to put a little bit more TLC in it Aug 26 22:37:28 tis true Aug 26 22:38:24 this looks like if you can get into booti, you can change the default boot to whatever. Aug 26 22:38:42 ie dual boot via a booti command Aug 26 22:39:06 you'd have to modify the os images to fit w/i the alloted spaces etc... Aug 26 22:39:08 Sound plausible Aug 26 22:39:10 but seems doable. Aug 26 22:39:25 ie if you check booti, it has an 'autoboot = ' env Aug 26 22:39:29 if this is in prom Aug 26 22:39:36 and you can write to it via the spi Aug 26 22:39:42 'which i think you can' Aug 26 22:39:59 you'd be able to change what all this crap is booting. Aug 26 22:40:02 again just thoughts here. Aug 26 22:40:06 farting outload Aug 26 22:40:13 err lowd. Aug 26 22:40:16 err i can't spell. Aug 26 22:40:30 Like I said, it seems plausible Aug 26 22:40:51 hmm.. Aug 26 22:41:01 wonder if i can 'novacom get file://dev/ram0 Aug 26 22:41:10 brb Aug 26 22:42:43 This hurricane looks fun....not Aug 26 22:44:18 I think it's time for a phone upgrade, I'm using a HTC Mogul from 2007 Aug 26 22:44:27 With a WM6.5 Hacked Rom Aug 26 22:47:26 from fstab insystem Aug 26 22:47:26 dev_mount sdcard /mnt/sdcard /devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0 18 /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host Aug 26 22:47:26 dev_mount sdcard2 /mnt/sdcard2 /devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun1 auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host Aug 26 22:47:33 also confirmed they used codename aurorora Aug 26 22:53:38 Yo, some dude in #touchpad says he got it to load Aug 26 22:54:44 take it private. Aug 26 22:54:59 you don't want the world having bricked devices. Aug 26 22:55:18 jdenman03: if you would please drop into a priv chat i'm sending. Aug 26 22:55:23 anybody got android to boot successfully? Aug 26 22:55:36 I'm quite interested in what you found jdenman Aug 26 22:58:47 we have successfully put ubuntu on it, still having crashes on android Aug 26 23:00:23 ubuntu isn't really hard though, there have been steps for ages on webos internals Aug 26 23:01:00 we have android running on top of ubuntu (not buy itself) Aug 26 23:05:11 k.... so, how are you running it Aug 26 23:05:19 just in an emulator or something? Aug 26 23:05:57 pretty much. We aren't using the system dump that was provided although I have a suspicion that is what it is also Aug 26 23:06:00 Are you running ubuntu natively? Aug 26 23:06:09 yes. Aug 26 23:06:16 Can we get a tut for that? Aug 26 23:06:44 yes. we will be doing a video walkthrough and posting it up promptly Aug 26 23:06:57 Cool; out of interest, who is "we" Aug 26 23:07:12 hey guys Aug 26 23:07:17 Do you mind if you take a picture and show us this? Aug 26 23:07:21 my brother and I (he is a software engineer for google) Aug 26 23:07:34 Ah okay Aug 26 23:07:50 I havent been on all day lol Aug 26 23:08:01 what did I misz? Aug 26 23:08:13 jdenman got android working on the tp Aug 26 23:08:35 awesome...congress man Aug 26 23:08:38 congrats Aug 26 23:08:48 Eh not exactly, he says he has it running over top of ubuntu Aug 26 23:08:48 sorry, still adjusting to the new touchpad Aug 26 23:08:51 which he has running natively Aug 26 23:08:55 well i still have a lot of issues on it Aug 26 23:09:24 it sure likes the rebooting process Aug 26 23:09:51 Once again, would you mind posting a picture of it in the meantime? Aug 26 23:10:26 ah didn't see your post darkredflame Aug 26 23:10:39 i'll start a new thread soon Aug 26 23:10:44 It's all good Aug 26 23:10:50 I'm just curious of this Aug 26 23:12:18 I'm gonna be upset if you're just using a chroot. But I'll give you the benefit of m Aug 26 23:12:27 of my doubt* Aug 26 23:15:40 jdenman03 so you got ubuntu running, not the chroot thing ? Aug 26 23:17:33 <+Sorrowuk> yes Aug 26 23:18:02 Awesome then Aug 26 23:18:25 cool does it have a gui like gnome? Aug 26 23:18:42 i've already bricked 2 doing it.... Aug 26 23:18:58 ...how many do you have? Aug 26 23:18:59 can you unbrick them ? Aug 26 23:19:34 so the new dump that was uploaded on rootzwiki just removed image file 13.img Aug 26 23:19:39 i have 7, just for this purpose. I'm sure you can unbrick them, just haven't really looked into it yet Aug 26 23:19:42 Sorrowuk, I feel as if I've seen your name before, were you involved in the ps3 homebrew dev a while back ago Aug 26 23:19:57 i was in that irc yeah Aug 26 23:20:05 and posted on psx scene some stuff Aug 26 23:20:09 Small world. Aug 26 23:21:21 jdenman03 does everything work on ubuntu then ? wifi etc ? Aug 26 23:21:30 hell no Aug 26 23:21:50 lol Aug 26 23:22:28 Yeah cause you know, ubuntu is known for plug n play Aug 26 23:22:48 lol Aug 26 23:23:18 ugh Aug 26 23:23:24 btw see how the cpu chip has integrated low power GPS . You think we could ever get gps enabled on our devices ? Aug 26 23:23:54 I wouldn't count on it, seems like it been disabled from the CPU level and not a software thing Aug 26 23:24:19 DarkRedFlame: you could likely use the 'spi' to do it. Aug 26 23:24:23 if you know the mem addr. Aug 26 23:24:43 That's all still up in the air though Aug 26 23:27:49 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3855 Aug 26 23:28:00 I laughed and laughed Aug 26 23:29:07 LOL Aug 26 23:30:11 ROFL Aug 26 23:32:28 lol Aug 26 23:33:09 USB Icons, bricking your devices since 2001 Aug 26 23:33:37 so wheres this guy with android on his touchpad, do we still need him to get partition info and stuff ? Aug 26 23:34:17 jdenman03 is still here Aug 26 23:34:43 Unless you mean the guy who got his touchpad shipped with android Aug 26 23:35:24 yes Aug 26 23:36:05 well I only unboxed one out of 3 touchpad Aug 26 23:36:16 lets see if I get lucky lol Aug 26 23:36:39 haha that would be wicked if you got one Aug 26 23:37:02 My came with webOS 3.0 i'm afraid Aug 26 23:37:12 I do have another one coming though, so who knows Aug 26 23:37:42 lol Aug 26 23:37:50 I want to get another one, but don't think i will now :( Aug 26 23:37:55 DarkRedFlame: they all come with 3.0.0 Aug 26 23:38:10 except for those random few with droid Aug 26 23:38:48 Yeah I know puffy :P Aug 26 23:39:08 vinylfreak89: done Aug 26 23:39:33 farchord, protekk: everything good in here? Aug 26 23:39:57 it's boring man Aug 26 23:40:00 thanks Aug 26 23:40:02 can we simulate drama? Aug 26 23:40:04 lol jk Aug 26 23:40:15 JB yes but please do call me in like 15 minutes? Aug 26 23:40:37 jbruchon, been doing great, as far as I could read, they've done alot of progress Aug 26 23:40:40 protekk: I'll be driving, it's getting dark, bad weather may possibly hit me. Aug 26 23:40:43 Drama? Hurrr... guys I am running droid 3.2 on my touchpad... durrr Aug 26 23:40:58 i got my touchpad today Aug 26 23:40:59 :D Aug 26 23:41:06 and my dev enviro is back Aug 26 23:41:10 (thanks protekk) Aug 26 23:41:16 @farchord - The SIms: Simulating drama for years Aug 26 23:41:19 so soon as i deny this headache Aug 26 23:41:23 imma build a kernel Aug 26 23:41:33 BatNode, lol meh im not THAT desperate Aug 26 23:41:46 LMAO Aug 26 23:42:16 Hey, I play simcity :( Aug 26 23:42:17 jbruchon, had one guy that pm'd me saying he didn't agree with the +m rule, told him to take it up with ya. Aug 26 23:43:04 hooray Aug 26 23:43:28 I'm leaving. Aug 26 23:43:33 Why? Aug 26 23:43:44 Got a long drive. Aug 26 23:43:46 Keep me posted. Aug 26 23:43:50 alright so... images are in order Aug 26 23:43:51 Have a safe one homie Aug 26 23:43:55 Also, DROPPED MY TOUCHPAD Aug 26 23:43:56 XD Aug 26 23:44:06 so we can just merge those together Aug 26 23:44:08 images ? Aug 26 23:44:11 @Damageless - Go on Aug 26 23:44:25 then make sure we set up mbr Aug 26 23:44:33 or however its set Aug 26 23:44:48 are we going to get the guy to output his partition info ? Aug 26 23:44:54 yes Aug 26 23:45:03 when he gets on Aug 26 23:45:09 hopefully hes on soon Aug 26 23:45:11 I am supposed to be told as soon as he gets on Aug 26 23:45:27 see the new image they uploaded.. they just removed 13.img the data partition i think :P Aug 26 23:45:32 but we do have some partition information Aug 26 23:45:33 we can start with that Aug 26 23:45:57 also Aug 26 23:46:11 he had a 16 gig image Aug 26 23:46:11 did you do a diff Aug 26 23:46:11 would be nice to know Aug 26 23:46:29 I'm not at my PC right now so I canr Aug 26 23:46:35 can't Aug 26 23:46:46 diff of what ? Aug 26 23:46:48 on a tab Aug 26 23:46:56 the news images Aug 26 23:46:57 Does no one have a constant remote desktop program going? Aug 26 23:47:08 the new images are the same Aug 26 23:47:10 the new dump Aug 26 23:47:15 it just has 13.img removed Aug 26 23:47:15 okay Aug 26 23:47:18 good Aug 26 23:47:27 which we are not talking about Aug 26 23:47:33 ;-) Aug 26 23:50:18 whats so bad about 13.img Aug 26 23:50:24 what has it got in it :P Aug 26 23:50:29 Personal info Aug 26 23:50:36 like what? all the apps and stuff Aug 26 23:50:49 Probably logins for email and google accounts Aug 26 23:51:51 btw how come there is no efs folder in the dumps . I thought all androids had an efs folder? Aug 26 23:59:39 nice to see the data partition works just fine with the android emulator Aug 26 23:59:40 I'll be back later Aug 27 00:00:49 Going AFK Aug 27 00:00:59 Might sign back on on my iPhone Aug 27 00:05:12 Sorrowuk Aug 27 00:05:16 are you that guy from ps3test Aug 27 00:07:39 ps3test? Aug 27 00:10:39 efnet Sorrowuk Aug 27 00:10:41 ? Aug 27 00:13:24 yeah might have been Aug 27 00:13:34 same person rgr Aug 27 00:17:54 lmlfa0 @ that post.... Aug 27 00:17:57 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3855 Aug 27 00:18:46 lmfa0 'ok we can delete this thread now' Aug 27 00:18:52 too funny Aug 27 00:19:25 MrDiode: so the device has been sitting here plugged into my usb, and sitting on the touchstone charging. Aug 27 00:19:32 and it's actually charging Aug 27 00:19:52 ] battery status Aug 27 00:19:52 battery status Aug 27 00:19:52 battery present Aug 27 00:19:52 voltage: 3674640 Aug 27 00:19:52 percentage: 42 Aug 27 00:19:54 current: 18437 Aug 27 00:19:57 capacity: 2344000 Aug 27 00:19:59 ] Aug 27 00:20:02 ] battery status Aug 27 00:20:03 the guy with android on his touchpad should have adb enabled Aug 27 00:20:05 battery status Aug 27 00:20:07 battery present Aug 27 00:20:10 voltage: 3674640 Aug 27 00:20:12 percentage: 42 Aug 27 00:20:15 current: 20000 Aug 27 00:20:17 cap Aug 27 00:20:20 capacity: 2355200 Aug 27 00:20:59 bad news is i can't figure out how to do anything productive in 'recovery' mode. Aug 27 00:21:18 ie no interractive shell other than booti. Aug 27 00:26:52 theres a qualcomm test tool on that android device, they've done loads of tests to check everything Aug 27 00:27:16 MrMuffin, so, how's MrsMuffin? Aug 27 00:27:40 Thanks farchord Aug 27 00:27:42 c0ns0le just type help Aug 27 00:27:43 np Aug 27 00:27:46 it will list all cmds Aug 27 00:28:05 hmmmm the touchpad has a compass in i t? Aug 27 00:28:07 in it * Aug 27 00:28:11 yes Aug 27 00:28:17 c0ns0le, why not just ssh into it when it isn't in bootie mode? Aug 27 00:28:31 whatever happened to the guy who said he was running android on ubuntu? Aug 27 00:28:47 That's jdenman03 , believe he may be afk Aug 27 00:29:15 Ahh... I see Aug 27 00:29:20 This was the result for neocore on android on hp touchpad Aug 27 00:29:33 Neocore v1.9.25 Aug 27 00:29:33 Android Aug 27 00:29:33 Screensize [1024x768] Aug 27 00:29:33 Fps = 50.2 Aug 27 00:29:43 that good ? Aug 27 00:29:45 MrDiode: understnad that... Aug 27 00:30:11 hazymind: wanted to whats possible when in recovery. Aug 27 00:30:37 hazymind: recovery mode in android world means adb'able session not dependent upon any localmounts. Aug 27 00:31:33 Sorrowuk: k. how did you get android on it. Aug 27 00:31:50 Sorrowuk: did i miss the ubuntu/android howto. Aug 27 00:31:55 I didnt , i got that from the dump, in the app logs Aug 27 00:32:04 Sorrowuk: oh. Aug 27 00:33:29 galaxy s is 55fps Aug 27 00:33:44 droid x 45 Aug 27 00:34:26 says we have 2 filesystems Aug 27 00:34:27 rootfs Aug 27 00:34:29 and Aug 27 00:34:33 /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 Aug 27 00:36:08 HDMI_USEROPTION : HDMI_ON hmmm Aug 27 00:36:34 You know what would be kinda funny? If qualcomm released a rom for android tomorrow Aug 27 00:36:50 It wouldn't be funny... it would be awesome! Aug 27 00:37:26 Well funny in the sense that we already spent a couple of days trying to get this to work Aug 27 00:37:51 And the solution came from qualcomm, not from some random project dev Aug 27 00:38:49 We just gotta convince a qualcomm dev to leak it and claim the $2k for himself Aug 27 00:39:05 Hahaha, true that Aug 27 00:40:39 Why is there no efs folder in the android dump ? Aug 27 00:41:42 I don't have a answer for that Aug 27 00:42:43 # system props for the mbm-gps modules Aug 27 00:42:43 # Aug 27 00:42:43 # set the device for controlling the gps Aug 27 00:42:43 mbm.gps.config.gps_ctrl=/dev/cdc-wdm0 Aug 27 00:42:43 # set the device for nmea data Aug 27 00:42:44 mbm.gps.config.gps_nmea=/dev/ttyACM2 Aug 27 00:42:46 # set the desired mode Aug 27 00:42:48 # the available options are Aug 27 00:42:50 # MEGPS Aug 27 00:42:52 # SUPL Aug 27 00:42:54 # STANDALONE Aug 27 00:42:56 mbm.gps.config.gps_pref_mode=STANDALONE Aug 27 00:43:13 *** Aug 27 00:43:14 # system props for huawei gps module Aug 27 00:43:14 ro.kernel.gps.data=/dev/ttyUSB3 Aug 27 00:43:14 ro.kernel.gps.ctl=/dev/ttyUSB4 Aug 27 00:43:24 huawei gps module ??? lol Aug 27 00:43:57 Interesting Aug 27 00:46:11 would love if gps could eventually get enabled Aug 27 00:47:34 I just got android working through qemu through ubuntu on the touchpad Aug 27 00:47:35 Whew. Aug 27 00:48:10 android ? Aug 27 00:48:21 so the dump workd ? Aug 27 00:48:23 works ? Aug 27 00:48:42 No, this is a completely seperate project Aug 27 00:49:00 This doesn't have to do with the current dump Aug 27 00:49:00 What source as you using? Aug 27 00:49:11 lmfa0 Aug 27 00:49:25 MrDiode: found a 'mount' output Aug 27 00:49:46 and something smells fishy Aug 27 00:50:08 it already has ext4 ? Aug 27 00:50:13 @c0ns0le yeah I saw that too Aug 27 00:50:26 mount ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p13 /data nosuid nodev barrier=0 Aug 27 00:50:26 mount ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p15 /persist nosuid nodev barrier=0 Aug 27 00:50:29 yeah. Aug 27 00:50:36 Hmm Aug 27 00:50:57 Hello Hello? Aug 27 00:50:59 Thanks Aug 27 00:51:10 Oy, sorry guys… Had to go out for hurricane supplies Aug 27 00:51:10 You notice the Aurora Forum copy rights in there haha Aug 27 00:51:22 xaios: hadn't got that far. Aug 27 00:51:27 c0ns0le: Did the guy with the touchpad contact you? Aug 27 00:51:30 xaios: was just fixing the dir structures etc.. Aug 27 00:51:37 trsohmers: contact me? Aug 27 00:51:38 wb trshomers Aug 27 00:51:40 no. Aug 27 00:51:45 c0ns0le: contact anyone Aug 27 00:51:53 _shrugs_ not that i'm aaware of. Aug 27 00:51:54 He didn't get back to me Aug 27 00:51:57 but i'm just a user here. Aug 27 00:52:14 Very true. You are all just programs Aug 27 00:52:16 xaios: looks almomst like a sammy build. Aug 27 00:52:41 except for this 'firmware/misc' vfat mount Aug 27 00:52:44 wtf is that. Aug 27 00:52:51 so anything happen in the past 3 hours? Aug 27 00:53:02 Not really Aug 27 00:53:06 @trsohmers not that I knwo of Aug 27 00:53:08 A guy supposedly has ubuntu running natively Aug 27 00:53:33 RobbieJ: Seriously? Aug 27 00:53:40 Supposely Aug 27 00:53:42 That's what he said Aug 27 00:54:14 trsohmers: jdenman03 Aug 27 00:54:22 sssshhhhh it's rhcp Aug 27 00:54:42 Uh, OK? Aug 27 00:54:51 its ok Aug 27 00:54:53 Drama inc...? Aug 27 00:54:53 just had to fix something Aug 27 00:54:54 This guy had a Cameo Router near by, you can see it squak about it in dmesg-log Aug 27 00:54:57 trsohmers: jdenman03 == ubuntu guy. Aug 27 00:55:05 im cool with trsohmers Aug 27 00:55:10 RobbieJ: That's what (s)he said Aug 27 00:55:12 rhcp: it was a joke. Aug 27 00:55:14 no more games Aug 27 00:55:14 What's going on here? Aug 27 00:55:15 :) Aug 27 00:55:26 poor form. Aug 27 00:55:31 rhcp: so .... Aug 27 00:55:35 continue guys Aug 27 00:55:44 Does anyone have the Android uImage? Aug 27 00:55:50 sorry for brief interopion Aug 27 00:55:50 rhcp: was able to get my tp charging while connected via usb in booti w/ a touchstone. Aug 27 00:55:51 or Aug 27 00:55:53 Speaking of rhcp, i'm listening to them right now Aug 27 00:55:56 i think that's progress.. lol Aug 27 00:56:05 well it is for me. Aug 27 00:56:10 rhcp: what happened here? Did I do something wrong? Aug 27 00:56:12 measn i don't have to have downtime whilest playing. Aug 27 00:56:26 no. but its me and mr muffin Aug 27 00:56:36 so what you're kicking jb out? Aug 27 00:56:40 I thought he was the leader Aug 27 00:56:41 no Aug 27 00:56:45 I mean what the eff now.... Aug 27 00:56:45 hes just not getting +f Aug 27 00:56:46 of this chan Aug 27 00:56:51 thats all Aug 27 00:56:56 broken trust. all you need to know Aug 27 00:58:35 trsohmers: whoever did that full system dump you posted. whats w/ the lack of directories.... Aug 27 00:58:44 trsohmers, http://core.nctritech.com/do/uImage Aug 27 00:58:54 trsohmers: ie, proc was just cp'd err something into / Aug 27 00:59:00 err pardon me, 'dump' Aug 27 00:59:21 RobbieJ: That's the Android uImage? Aug 27 00:59:27 or is that just a custom uImage he made? Aug 27 00:59:30 RobbieJ: what is this? Aug 27 00:59:36 err I'm not 100% sure Aug 27 00:59:40 lmfa0 Aug 27 00:59:53 guess it would have to be split. Aug 27 01:00:58 I am having trouble to believe that somebody got ADB running on webOS Aug 27 01:01:26 DarkRedFlame: lol like a virgin college girl? Aug 27 01:01:41 c0ns0le exactly. Aug 27 01:02:19 man i love wget. Aug 27 01:05:11 Oh that's pretty nifty, i just found the black pop-up tab on the touchpad Aug 27 01:05:34 DarkRedFlame: Yea, it has the serial number and stuff Aug 27 01:05:40 I found it quite strange at first Aug 27 01:06:04 At first i'm thinking, SD slot? Aug 27 01:06:30 Greetings Aug 27 01:07:30 To those with a power trip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxOXbWIU&ob=av3e&has_verified=1 Aug 27 01:09:39 b1six: +1 Aug 27 01:10:43 Guys. Read the topic. Youtube videos and passive aggressive remarks isn't development talk. It's still a form of drama. Aug 27 01:12:04 no irc clients for the tp, huh? Aug 27 01:12:06 gay Aug 27 01:12:07 black pop-up tab on the touchpad ?? Wheres this :P Aug 27 01:12:14 @ProTekk, wIRC Aug 27 01:12:15 ProTekk: wIRC. Aug 27 01:12:16 @PtoYrkk look hstfrt Aug 27 01:12:33 Fuck this channel, fuck the drama, fuck the large and in charge mentality, have fun, there aint shit going on here, everyone knows it. Nothing but fighting over OP and shit aint happening. Aug 27 01:12:39 Sorrowuk: it's the 'plastic blank' Aug 27 01:12:39 Ban me. Aug 27 01:12:42 Do it. Aug 27 01:12:56 Sorrowuk: It's a plastic filler slot reserved for when the unit was going to be released with a 4G Radio inside. A Sim slot without anything to connect to. Aug 27 01:13:16 RobbieJ, wirc doesnt come up with anything when i search the aapp catalog Aug 27 01:13:23 someone had a sandy vagina LOL Aug 27 01:13:28 the thing on the side with the volume buttons at the bottom of that side ? Aug 27 01:13:29 It's through preware I believe Aug 27 01:13:33 @ProTekk Preware dude... Aug 27 01:13:35 Can you open it ? How do you do that :P Aug 27 01:13:38 xaios, ty Aug 27 01:13:39 Without breaking it Aug 27 01:13:45 not familiar with webos at all Aug 27 01:13:47 Sorrowuk: Push it in with something thicker, like a coin. Aug 27 01:13:56 hmmm Aug 27 01:13:57 yeah what roadkill said. Aug 27 01:14:01 really Aug 27 01:14:05 ProTekk, someone has one, people were on here on their tp's yesterday Aug 27 01:14:10 Quarter works great. Push it slightly in and it pops out. Aug 27 01:15:10 ahhhhh yeah cool Aug 27 01:15:15 pointless tho Aug 27 01:15:16 lol Aug 27 01:16:14 thanks MrMuffin Aug 27 01:16:27 what do you think happens if the touchpad breaks, like the backlight stops working or something. You think hp repair them or have refurbished ones ? Aug 27 01:16:44 Sorrowuk, doubtful Aug 27 01:16:48 * raymonddull scrolls back up to try to remember what I was attempting to say for the last hour but couldn't without voice Aug 27 01:16:51 @Sorrowuk Unlikely Aug 27 01:16:58 Sorrowuk, you have a 1 year warranty which they are required to comply with Aug 27 01:17:07 so you would just get refund? Aug 27 01:17:16 Probably Aug 27 01:17:26 http://blog.palm.com/palm/2011/08/accidents-happen-and-so-do-price-reductions-.html Aug 27 01:17:27 Hmm, I might get a refund after 11 months then .... hmmm...... Aug 27 01:17:31 Most likely. However, the latest rumors point to HP re-starting production Aug 27 01:17:46 Sorrowuk, it would probably be a pro-rated refund Aug 27 01:18:04 @RobbieJ Which rumors? Aug 27 01:18:11 I'll find the link Aug 27 01:18:58 I've heard that too,which kinda makes sense. They pushed out all these devices,now they have a huge pool of new users spreading the word about how much they like the os,buying apps,... Aug 27 01:19:38 Yeah, they went from an incredibly small user base to a pretty decent one now Aug 27 01:20:25 I still think that this was a elaborate scheme to get people to use webOS, which worked quite well Aug 27 01:20:32 Yeah but they were sold at a huge loss, a company doesn't make money by losing money. The Razor Blades model hasn't been proven to work for the tablet market Aug 27 01:20:57 I dont know,but it definitely got people talking about it Aug 27 01:21:07 this could be their form of marketing for new models Aug 27 01:21:08 it is what Amazon is going to do with their tab coming out Aug 27 01:21:08 xaios, they either took a large loss now to try to make future money, or make no money at all Aug 27 01:21:13 I 'll agree with that Aug 27 01:21:34 sell for a loss as they know will make cash back off the kindle/app store sales Aug 27 01:21:35 @RobbieJ I'm sorry I don't see any future revenue stream here? Aug 27 01:21:58 What percentage are they taking from Apps in their store? If at all? Aug 27 01:22:17 i mean their apps Aug 27 01:22:20 amazon mp3 etc Aug 27 01:22:36 ??? What? Aug 27 01:22:36 xaios: my guess would be the huge word of mouth advertising this kind of thing creates,future products will be associated with this Aug 27 01:22:56 They most likely wouldn't have sold the devices at all. So now they have sold the devices (at a loss - however no more loss than if they didn't sell them), now they have a user base, small app sale revenue, and future webos uses (for phones etc) Aug 27 01:23:07 exactly Aug 27 01:23:07 Well my main concern is to still get android working on this Aug 27 01:23:17 http://www.droid-life.com/2011/08/26/amazon-tablets-to-sell-for-hundreds-less-than-499-ipads/ Aug 27 01:23:28 Don't get me wrong, webOS is great, but android has much more opportunities Aug 27 01:23:31 RobbieJ: It's liquidation. They effectively are just trying to recoup as much cash as they can since they already spent it all getting the stuff made... and to eliminate inventory. Aug 27 01:23:32 This cost them well over 150 million dollars Aug 27 01:23:39 I know before I played around with one I heard a lot about web os but wasnt interested,now that i have,I love it and dont like my evo anymore Aug 27 01:23:52 Im trying to find a pre2/pre 3 now Aug 27 01:23:56 hmmm.... wonder if this will brick my device: Aug 27 01:24:05 xaios: As so much as it already cost them. One dollar made from selling something already paid for in production is one dollar more than they had before. Aug 27 01:24:08 This "cost" them no more than if they hadn't sold the devices. They created a userbase and a want for the devices. Aug 27 01:24:36 c0ns0le: what? Aug 27 01:24:37 novacom.exe boot mem:// < uImage Aug 27 01:25:01 @RobbieJ understood, however this doesn't mean that they are going to continue production simply to get hte product out the door is what I'm saying Aug 27 01:25:10 I completely agree Aug 27 01:25:11 Also, consider... You guys think this is a 150m loss? Apple spends more on marketing for less attention than HP has generated for themselves in this past week alone. This is the best marketing they could have ever had. Aug 27 01:25:17 As pointed out above this was a liqudation sale to attempt to recoup as much money as possible as quickly as possible Aug 27 01:25:20 I'm just saying they solved a few issues, and set up for a possible future Aug 27 01:25:28 c0ns0le: From a logical perspective, I wouldn't do it, but from a experimental perspective I would Aug 27 01:25:36 lol darkredflame Aug 27 01:25:37 @roadkill 150 Million will buy you a lot of marketing... Aug 27 01:25:52 People who have never touched a tablet before are talking about the Touchpad. That's saying something. Aug 27 01:25:56 DarkRedFlame: well it's doing it right now so guess i'll find out lol. Aug 27 01:26:09 night all Aug 27 01:26:11 isn't there a reset method? or does that go out the window when you screw with the uimage Aug 27 01:26:13 Anyway, let's get back to dev talk ;) Aug 27 01:26:20 c0ns0le: I wish you the best of luck, keep us updated. Aug 27 01:26:36 holy shit. Aug 27 01:26:45 altimax98: Not generally, but there is an emergency serial-esque access mode for Bootie. http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie Aug 27 01:26:52 lmfa0 Aug 27 01:27:00 it's booting android Aug 27 01:27:07 c0ns0le: DOCUMENT!! Aug 27 01:27:07 :-O Aug 27 01:27:07 o.o Aug 27 01:27:26 one sec i'll take a pic and post. Aug 27 01:27:32 c0ns0le: Touchscreen? Aug 27 01:27:40 No, no, just document every step you take to get to this point. Aug 27 01:27:57 Holy fuck, my god. Aug 27 01:28:04 If the touchscreen isn't working… then as S. Jobs would say "You're doing it wrong" Aug 27 01:28:20 if the touchscreen doesnt work yet,so what? booting is still huge Aug 27 01:28:31 raymonddull: exactly Aug 27 01:28:32 touchscreen can come later Aug 27 01:28:49 k. lemme take that back. Aug 27 01:28:52 it booted a kernel Aug 27 01:28:56 but i'm not @ a prompt. Aug 27 01:28:58 >.> Aug 27 01:29:02 anyone who isnt attached to rhcp's hip and dick then pm me Aug 27 01:29:03 So you got android working ? Aug 27 01:29:04 WHAT Aug 27 01:29:05 detected the 2 cpu's Aug 27 01:29:22 what android is this ? the dump ? Aug 27 01:29:25 Remember everyone, Craptain already got to the lockscreen with his method last night. Aug 27 01:29:28 hi framework Aug 27 01:29:32 Gello Aug 27 01:29:34 Hello* Aug 27 01:29:34 :/ Aug 27 01:29:40 * raymonddull wants jello now Aug 27 01:29:43 roadkill: We know, this is still interesting though Aug 27 01:30:01 so what method is c0ns0le doing ? Aug 27 01:30:02 are you flashing the kernel? Aug 27 01:30:10 did you* Aug 27 01:30:42 He's using the novacom.exe method with a uimage Aug 27 01:30:44 novacom.exe boot mem:// < uImage Aug 27 01:30:45 is what he did Aug 27 01:31:10 Basically jtagged the sucker. Aug 27 01:31:15 c0ns0le: Still post pics for us Aug 27 01:31:18 nice. Aug 27 01:31:20 is novacom still as buggy as i remember it being from my old pre? Aug 27 01:32:11 i remember it being a pita to get my pre to connect Aug 27 01:32:32 used the uimage that RobbieJ posted. Aug 27 01:32:33 lol. Aug 27 01:32:46 it's hung @ something but laptop detected it. Aug 27 01:32:58 working adb? Aug 27 01:33:38 It isn't giving a prompt, so I doubt it's working Aug 27 01:34:10 I wish I could find a tablet somewhere that doesnt cancel my order,I want to help but dont have hardware Aug 27 01:34:27 think novacom will work. Aug 27 01:34:37 says it was doing something with it. Aug 27 01:34:41 wtf is rockhopper Aug 27 01:35:10 like a grasshopper Aug 27 01:35:17 only with rocks Aug 27 01:35:38 lol Aug 27 01:36:09 rockhopper is a module that prevents the loading of other modules via usb Aug 27 01:41:47 c0ns0le: anything else happening? Aug 27 01:44:52 he seems really quiet which seems like he's doing something Aug 27 01:47:48 Hey guys. Just FYI someone posted the fix for watching hulu with the update of webos. Aug 27 01:48:28 so in the mean time at least we can watch tv while the dev's are working so hard. :) Aug 27 01:48:58 I'll bite, link? Aug 27 01:49:16 this guy over complicated it but here... Aug 27 01:49:27 http://informationmadness.com/technology/tech-tips/4112-how-to-bypass-hulu-block-on-hp-touchpad.html Aug 27 01:49:32 works perfect Aug 27 01:50:17 i didn't use the sdk part... lol couldn't figure it out. I used the linux prompt in tools of WebOS installer Aug 27 01:50:41 Ahhh, cool, thanks Aug 27 01:51:38 yeah. np. It needs reposted to use the webos installer for us simple folk. I'd do it but I don't know the best place to push it Aug 27 01:52:13 Everyone get "Tanked " from the HP App catalog . Its a multiplayer game over wifi with tanks. Its amazing lol Aug 27 01:52:35 Picked up my touchstone and a case for it, it'll be nice once it gets here Aug 27 01:52:47 gotta go.. gf taking the puter. :( Aug 27 01:53:58 Anyway to have different tabs in the launcher, like insted of just Apps and Download, have like other stuff to categorise like Games, Homebrew etc Aug 27 01:54:37 There's an app in preware that does just that Aug 27 01:54:57 cool Aug 27 01:55:05 Can't remember the name, gimme a sec Aug 27 01:55:11 Aight, tone down on the non-dev talk Aug 27 01:55:19 Yeah Aug 27 01:55:20 :P Aug 27 01:55:34 This is reminding me of #ps3dev so much Aug 27 01:55:53 RobbieJ: where did you get the uImage from? Aug 27 01:55:55 DarkRedFlame: But I am guessing with them there are actually developers Aug 27 01:56:02 You might want to join #touchpad Aug 27 01:56:05 that are OPs* Aug 27 01:56:26 LOL Aug 27 01:56:27 jbruchon made it Aug 27 01:56:52 trsohmers: Not exactly, we had devs that were +v only Aug 27 01:59:10 Well guys, you can continue to developer talk or whatever in here, but I would suggest to stop using the #touchdroid name associated with rhcp, Framework, and the others clowns in here. Aug 27 01:59:27 Wow. Aug 27 01:59:37 what actually happened? Aug 27 01:59:40 Can you stop? Please? Aug 27 01:59:41 https://twitter.com/jbruchon/status/107260856500367360 Aug 27 01:59:54 I don't understand why you always associate me with other people. Aug 27 01:59:57 I am my own person Aug 27 02:00:02 Framework is sucking rhcp's dick for a supposed d3 sbf leak that rhcp doesn't actually have Aug 27 02:00:09 Come on, it's obvious Aug 27 02:00:11 Yep. Aug 27 02:00:14 Of course. Aug 27 02:00:56 I just want to tell you guys that this channel is pretty much dead to the rest of the team that you once knew. Aug 27 02:01:12 I still dont understand why people can't just get along,we all want to get android working,why not cooperate? Aug 27 02:01:14 ProTekk, jbruchon, and many other GREAT developers that worked behind the scenes Aug 27 02:01:32 wow.... so what's the status of c0ns0les tp? Aug 27 02:01:43 raymonddull: The real developers are working together. We are doing a great job. We just don't like people like rhcp Aug 27 02:02:04 altimax98: he kinda disappeared he said he got a kernel booting,it froze and he has been quiet since then Aug 27 02:02:07 If you really want to know the history of rhcp… google is a great tool. See what other developers think of him from the past Aug 27 02:02:17 altimax98: Last I heard rockhopper was getting in his way Aug 27 02:02:19 what is rhcp doing? Aug 27 02:02:26 trsohmers: yeah,I've talked to him/others a few months ago. Aug 27 02:02:38 I have talked to framework a lot though and he seems like a good guy Aug 27 02:02:43 whats rockhopper Aug 27 02:02:44 Some people with great stories are Kmobs (cyanogen mod developer), [mbm] (Nook color rooter and cm7 porter), and many more Aug 27 02:03:02 Framework is a good guy.. I just disagree with some of his most recent actions Aug 27 02:03:04 altimax98: It's a module that other modules from booting Aug 27 02:03:30 trsohmers, as someone that barely talks to , honestly, I haven't had much "recent actions" Aug 27 02:03:56 Please keep my name out of this, I don't publicly attack you. Aug 27 02:04:17 Framework I guess it was somewhat wrong for me to be using your name without my direct knowledge, so I am sorry. What I said was what I have heard from other people I trust. Aug 27 02:04:45 Keep the drama outside the channel, if you need to , you can PM me. Aug 27 02:04:54 Framework: Sounds good. Aug 27 02:05:11 Last thing I will say is that sadly, for the most part, the "Touchdroid team" is dead. Aug 27 02:05:20 Man. Fuck everything about this channel. Aug 27 02:05:39 If you have questions, PM to me… I'll try to get to you as soon as I can Aug 27 02:05:57 Sane folks? PM anytime. Until then, I hope I don't recognize a single name on the final rom for flashing Android on the touchpad. Aug 27 02:08:32 Well guys that just joined and didn't get to hear what I said above, hopefully others will fill you in Aug 27 02:13:57 If you guys want to talk about the project without being muted, you guys can join #androtouch I guess Aug 27 02:14:30 back on topic now Aug 27 02:15:10 Sorrowuk: Did you read what I said above? Aug 27 02:15:14 yes please on topic Aug 27 02:15:33 sorry trsohmers i have nothing agaist you. but please no trying to move people away Aug 27 02:15:41 i left you voiced for days Aug 27 02:15:47 dispite all Aug 27 02:15:54 ok Aug 27 02:15:56 back on topic Aug 27 02:19:25 aight.... Aug 27 02:19:28 http://db.tt/nGt9XJx Aug 27 02:19:35 c0ns0le: pm Aug 27 02:19:35 you asked, there's the img. Aug 27 02:19:52 Hello Aug 27 02:20:11 Has anybody figured out the partition mapping? Aug 27 02:22:03 c0ns0le: I'm guessing it won't move past that part? Aug 27 02:22:31 no it wont Aug 27 02:22:36 nothing is mounted Aug 27 02:22:40 # mount Aug 27 02:22:40 rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) Aug 27 02:22:40 tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,relatime,mode=755) Aug 27 02:22:40 devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,mode=600) Aug 27 02:22:40 proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime) Aug 27 02:22:42 sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime) Aug 27 02:22:45 # Aug 27 02:23:13 tks rhcp Aug 27 02:23:15 np Aug 27 02:23:38 c0ns0le: do you think bootie can boot android kernel? Aug 27 02:23:47 yes Aug 27 02:23:48 it can.. Aug 27 02:23:49 it has Aug 27 02:23:50 .. Aug 27 02:23:57 and where is the kernel? did you split 8.img? Aug 27 02:24:10 rainlake: it can. Aug 27 02:24:15 did. Aug 27 02:24:21 is Aug 27 02:24:22 etc.. Aug 27 02:24:35 is it come from 8.img? Aug 27 02:24:44 but i don't have the damned link where this came from. Aug 27 02:25:16 c0ns0le, what is your status? Aug 27 02:25:25 anybody get adb working? Aug 27 02:25:26 rainlake: i'm married. Aug 27 02:25:30 ;) Aug 27 02:25:32 :( Aug 27 02:25:32 lol. Aug 27 02:25:33 sorry Aug 27 02:25:46 i'm taking offers though. Aug 27 02:25:59 I've kids,lol Aug 27 02:26:11 did you success booting android? Aug 27 02:26:21 rainlake: and me an extra apendage so no ty. Aug 27 02:26:31 err and a wif Aug 27 02:26:33 sorry for my bad english Aug 27 02:26:37 np. Aug 27 02:27:03 not successfully, least i wouldn't say fully. Aug 27 02:27:17 build from android source might not work. since drivers from touchpad is for kernel 2.35? Aug 27 02:28:01 rainlake: but what i'm looking @ might be worth something else. Aug 27 02:28:37 what are you looking at/ Aug 27 02:29:05 I will start trying split 8.img. Aug 27 02:29:25 lets hope that novacom boot mem:// < image just simulates fastboot Aug 27 02:29:46 what image is he going to flash? no need to Aug 27 02:29:47 lol Aug 27 02:29:48 yep. but first you should get an android uImage Aug 27 02:29:50 you are going to brick Aug 27 02:30:02 becareful Aug 27 02:30:17 no. I'm trying boot mem too. Aug 27 02:30:22 rhcp: lol i just want to make sure webos comes back. Aug 27 02:30:24 wtf...... Aug 27 02:30:30 oh it will Aug 27 02:30:35 even if you need to restore it Aug 27 02:30:39 either way Aug 27 02:30:48 http://pastie.org/2436763 Aug 27 02:30:49 rhcp , do you know where is bootie? Aug 27 02:30:49 k. good deal i'm back. Aug 27 02:30:52 There is the mounts Aug 27 02:30:53 is it in mmc? Aug 27 02:31:14 so thats really good to know. Aug 27 02:31:27 i dont think anyone knows where bootie is located yet. its on of the parts im sure. Aug 27 02:31:40 novacom boot mem:// appears to boot from the img, but doesn't overwrite anything. Aug 27 02:31:59 ie..... rhcp i think we may have found a new recovery method ;) Aug 27 02:32:09 yep, but do you must have a rootfs? Aug 27 02:32:11 rhcp; were you the one who booted an android recovery Aug 27 02:32:13 ? Aug 27 02:32:19 can it be put in ramfs? Aug 27 02:33:01 how the android guy dump the image? from bootie or android recovery? Aug 27 02:33:11 rainlake: neither. Aug 27 02:33:15 rainlake: they were in the os. Aug 27 02:33:22 rainlake: adb shell Aug 27 02:33:27 rainlake: adb pull .img Aug 27 02:33:45 got it. Aug 27 02:33:50 rainlake: yea Aug 27 02:34:09 so we cannot confirm if there is a bootie in his device. Aug 27 02:34:45 i compared the md5sum for each partition, only partition1 is same. Aug 27 02:34:54 rhcp: you see my post about getting charging to work while in booti Aug 27 02:35:24 rwhitby Aug 27 02:35:25 so how do you browse the fs while in bootie. Aug 27 02:35:27 err Aug 27 02:35:41 yep. me too. 99% percent. Aug 27 02:36:08 the guy dumped it with dd Aug 27 02:36:12 but who cares about that Aug 27 02:36:14 move on from dumps Aug 27 02:36:17 c0ns0le: with regard to that "new" recovery method you've found: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover (only been documented for 2 years now) Aug 27 02:36:18 they are quite useless Aug 27 02:36:35 rhcp: at least we should get drivers from dumps Aug 27 02:36:42 heh i need to do some ecm work here in a few... whoops supposed to have it done before 7a est Aug 27 02:36:52 You can also get the kerenl config from the dump :) Aug 27 02:37:00 So you can compile with AOSP ;) Aug 27 02:39:22 rwhitby: hey now... baggggg off, i googled my way out of a paper bag. Aug 27 02:39:38 rwhitby: actually i think it was your google groups post i was reading. Aug 27 02:40:20 c0ns0le: I'm just enjoying watching all the NIH wheel-reinventing and "discovery" ;) Aug 27 02:40:33 rwhitby: bastid... Aug 27 02:40:46 rwhitby: you know we can't learn unless we blow it up ourselves. Aug 27 02:41:16 yeah, I've heard someone has done that already, and is going to fraudulently return it. Aug 27 02:41:29 oh? Aug 27 02:41:39 heh i'd never do that. unless it was a router. Aug 27 02:41:50 and the i'm a poor soldering person. Aug 27 02:42:06 I offered him $50 so we could bake it to get the PCB traces and find jtag, serial, hdmi, etc. Aug 27 02:42:13 He decided to break the law instead. Aug 27 02:42:54 k. this is interesting. Aug 27 02:42:55 .[01;31mTP302.[01;34m / #.[00m uname -a Aug 27 02:42:55 uname -a Aug 27 02:42:56 Linux TP302 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin #2 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 6 17:50:47 HST 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux Aug 27 02:43:02 is that the stock kernel? Aug 27 02:43:14 i think its patched a bit Aug 27 02:43:20 c0ns0le: cat /proc/version will tell you Aug 27 02:43:21 dono with what looking Aug 27 02:43:27 ^ Aug 27 02:43:47 yeah think it is. Aug 27 02:44:59 quiet in here Aug 27 02:45:03 what did i miss Aug 27 02:45:06 lol Aug 27 02:45:07 not much. Aug 27 02:45:25 lol Aug 27 02:45:32 that usually means plenty Aug 27 02:45:34 anyways Aug 27 02:45:45 who is got a tp and feels adventerous Aug 27 02:46:41 i got one Aug 27 02:46:47 I've got one with nothing better to do Aug 27 02:47:14 what do u have sam Aug 27 02:47:26 what you got:P Aug 27 02:47:27 lol Aug 27 02:47:47 I have one :P Aug 27 02:47:52 and too much time on my hands Aug 27 02:48:33 k Aug 27 02:48:36 so the plan is Aug 27 02:48:40 for all of us together Aug 27 02:48:44 to develop an installer Aug 27 02:48:53 we know how to mount it Aug 27 02:48:56 im always ready to help. Aug 27 02:48:57 we know how to boot it Aug 27 02:49:00 Same here Aug 27 02:49:06 now lets make an installer Aug 27 02:49:12 is the touchpad working? Aug 27 02:49:18 did you guys find out the bootie info like i ask you Aug 27 02:49:18 the screen? Aug 27 02:49:34 damageless and roadkill did Aug 27 02:49:35 BossHogg22, it will once we mount loop some imgs Aug 27 02:49:42 but uh.. roadkill isnt coming back here Aug 27 02:49:52 k Aug 27 02:49:59 so where is roadkill Aug 27 02:50:00 ? Aug 27 02:50:11 there was another outburst from your bff Aug 27 02:50:18 so he quit Aug 27 02:50:24 roadkill defected Aug 27 02:50:32 awesome Aug 27 02:50:39 the man wit the info left Aug 27 02:50:43 what about damageless Aug 27 02:50:45 where is he Aug 27 02:50:52 dunno. Aug 27 02:51:11 he updated the rootzwiki thread with everything from chat today Aug 27 02:51:14 havent seen him on since' Aug 27 02:51:38 What exactly have you guys got booting, catch me up. Aug 27 02:51:57 oh, and fyi Aug 27 02:51:59 http://twitter.com/#!/jbruchon Aug 27 02:54:09 i dont care how i need either damageless or roadkill Aug 27 02:54:17 so we can get bvootie info Aug 27 02:54:21 and get the installer going Aug 27 02:54:30 damage is on Aug 27 02:54:32 he needs +v Aug 27 02:54:38 msg him Aug 27 02:54:38 Send damageless a pm Aug 27 02:54:45 sorry Aug 27 02:54:46 bout time Aug 27 02:54:49 roadkill is on too Aug 27 02:54:49 its all good Aug 27 02:54:49 im talking to some people Aug 27 02:54:50 lol Aug 27 02:54:52 damageless: my bad Aug 27 02:54:54 need to perma voice or something Aug 27 02:54:59 ok i can set it Aug 27 02:55:39 I've been told that someone got Android going Aug 27 02:56:00 indeed craptain last night Aug 27 02:56:07 no Aug 27 02:56:08 someone else Aug 27 02:56:13 oh dint know that Aug 27 02:56:19 anyways Aug 27 02:56:24 im working on a installer Aug 27 02:56:35 and i need to borrow your knowledge of bootie Aug 27 02:56:55 damageless, ^ Aug 27 02:57:11 installer for what Aug 27 02:58:26 it was c0ns0le who got it booting Aug 27 02:58:33 I was told team douche got it going Aug 27 02:58:40 twitter feed Aug 27 02:58:50 sorry trying to get up to date here Aug 27 02:59:05 damageless: me too Aug 27 02:59:06 installer for the android we do have Aug 27 02:59:09 i took a short break :) Aug 27 02:59:20 panic attacks Aug 27 02:59:22 like crazy Aug 27 02:59:25 lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 27 02:59:57 2011