**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 27 02:59:57 2011 Aug 27 03:00:09 Big ass room Aug 27 03:01:17 jesus Aug 27 03:01:23 rootzwiki is getting worse than here Aug 27 03:01:23 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692&page=28 Aug 27 03:02:06 Rediculous Aug 27 03:04:36 sorry Boydy Aug 27 03:04:46 ? Aug 27 03:04:53 oh Aug 27 03:14:07 okay I'm mistaken… no Android port Aug 27 03:14:11 misread something somewhere Aug 27 03:14:13 sorry guys :P Aug 27 03:19:43 this thing is almost as big as #android Aug 27 03:20:38 yay?! Aug 27 03:20:49 it's greater tripoli, not abu salim Aug 27 03:21:19 they found gaddafi? Aug 27 03:21:44 Raio: don't think so Aug 27 03:22:17 where is the source for this kernel the uImage is built from? Aug 27 03:22:52 win 58 Aug 27 03:22:54 where did samcripp go? Aug 27 03:23:01 i think hes joining the dark side Aug 27 03:23:54 msged him Aug 27 03:23:56 no response Aug 27 03:25:43 fucking sides.... I guarantee someone else will have a fully working port before anyone in these two rooms.. sadly Aug 27 03:26:15 ah Aug 27 03:26:16 talked to him Aug 27 03:26:18 hes cool Aug 27 03:26:44 lol... what I said still stands Aug 27 03:26:54 I wish we could all just get alomg Aug 27 03:27:03 +1 Aug 27 03:27:10 it's inevitable though Aug 27 03:27:44 we are kinda Aug 27 03:28:13 its not +m craptain Aug 27 03:28:19 I'm so happy I'll be in a cruise Sunday - Thursday and completely disconnected hopefully something will be better when I get back lol. Aug 27 03:28:27 talk? Aug 27 03:28:31 oddness Aug 27 03:28:32 weird Aug 27 03:28:35 its not +m Aug 27 03:28:36 ) Aug 27 03:28:36 hey craptain Aug 27 03:28:43 try now? Aug 27 03:29:00 now? Aug 27 03:29:03 yea Aug 27 03:29:05 oh Aug 27 03:29:07 weird Aug 27 03:29:10 jb must have services did it Aug 27 03:29:12 fuck Aug 27 03:29:26 the mode is not set Aug 27 03:29:35 wtf? Aug 27 03:29:41 neejay: talked Aug 27 03:29:43 hes not voiced Aug 27 03:29:45 OH Aug 27 03:29:49 <3 Aug 27 03:29:50 craptain: are you regged? Aug 27 03:29:56 nickname Aug 27 03:30:08 I promise to stfu Aug 27 03:30:17 There's a +q $~a set Aug 27 03:30:19 the flag for regged nicks to talk is Aug 27 03:30:20 i think Aug 27 03:30:27 <VPNNNN> i'z canz talkz? Aug 27 03:30:27 * #touchdroid :Cannot send to channel Aug 27 03:30:29 hrm Aug 27 03:30:39 is he regged? Aug 27 03:30:40 and iden? Aug 27 03:30:43 no Aug 27 03:30:43 +n I think Aug 27 03:30:43 chan is set to req reg to talk Aug 27 03:30:46 +q $~a is registered only Aug 27 03:30:57 sorry Aug 27 03:31:04 yay! Aug 27 03:31:18 god i hate services Aug 27 03:31:28 You want +n Aug 27 03:31:29 hold on Aug 27 03:31:38 let sCr|pTiC- handle it Aug 27 03:31:43 i dono what im doing i dont use services Aug 27 03:31:43 :P Aug 27 03:31:46 just delete the mlock Aug 27 03:31:47 efnet ftw Aug 27 03:32:11 k-e-v #touchdroid :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel Aug 27 03:32:13 odd Aug 27 03:32:28 services ban? Aug 27 03:32:31 No Aug 27 03:32:32 WTFFFFFFF #touchdroid :Cannot change nickname while banned on channel Aug 27 03:32:44 It's cuz of the +q $~a Aug 27 03:32:51 well you are op Aug 27 03:32:57 i connected another user Aug 27 03:32:59 and joined the chan Aug 27 03:34:47 mloke has been removed Aug 27 03:34:50 lock Aug 27 03:36:29 what are you tools working on this time Aug 27 03:36:42 ran it sCr|pTiC- Aug 27 03:39:05 guys who are not +v we are trying to fix this Aug 27 03:39:08 sorry for the issues Aug 27 03:39:18 … Aug 27 03:39:25 Xavierdarkness: msg Aug 27 03:39:28 just leave this unmuted? Aug 27 03:39:38 ... Aug 27 03:39:39 rhcp: hi can I have ops for 2 seconds Aug 27 03:41:29 give the man ops Aug 27 03:41:39 ???? Aug 27 03:41:40 sorry im talking Aug 27 03:41:41 lol Aug 27 03:41:45 that worked Aug 27 03:41:48 lol Aug 27 03:41:55 he fixed it Aug 27 03:42:02 good job Aug 27 03:42:03 :P Aug 27 03:42:07 he only said it 10 times Aug 27 03:42:13 true he did lol Aug 27 03:42:32 I have no life, I know irc commands. Aug 27 03:42:37 haha Aug 27 03:42:46 anyways fixed now Aug 27 03:42:51 i've been on irc since 2003. Aug 27 03:42:55 don't tell me about having no life Aug 27 03:42:58 can always /j #fail now Aug 27 03:43:29 what? Aug 27 03:43:32 there is a #fail chan Aug 27 03:43:33 ? Aug 27 03:43:45 heh back when I used IRC modes like +q $~a didnt exist Aug 27 03:43:48 not sure, don't care Aug 27 03:43:54 lol Aug 27 03:43:57 Oy Aug 27 03:44:04 quit Aug 27 03:44:13 wrong channel, sorry ^ Aug 27 03:44:19 lol sorry newb Aug 27 03:45:08 trsohmers: how did you're attempts of using metadoctor to boot android work out? Aug 27 03:45:30 tmzt_: Not using that approach right now, but it looks possible in the future Aug 27 03:45:34 fuck u faggots Aug 27 03:45:54 basedgod: Love you too, kthnx bai Aug 27 03:46:01 did we figure out how to get the touchscreen working yet? Aug 27 03:46:11 lol Aug 27 03:46:27 sCr|pTiC-: who is that? Aug 27 03:46:29 basedgod rofl, you're 13 yr old lil b fan Aug 27 03:46:30 ? Aug 27 03:46:36 tmzt_, i'm not sure. Aug 27 03:46:36 xD Aug 27 03:46:41 no bashing guys Aug 27 03:46:46 we -m'ed this so we can all talk nice Aug 27 03:46:47 ok ok Aug 27 03:46:48 :) Aug 27 03:46:52 despite the fact of last attempts Aug 27 03:46:57 lets all play nice Aug 27 03:47:02 we want the same goal Aug 27 03:47:08 kthx Aug 27 03:47:09 so i read a news article about drama today Aug 27 03:47:18 banning as a result of personality conflicts are also conterproductive Aug 27 03:47:27 ^ Aug 27 03:47:29 yea Aug 27 03:47:43 banning is usually counterproductive unless it's seriously disrupting discussion Aug 27 03:47:47 as i said as long as no one is bashing / trying to move people etc Aug 27 03:47:50 all is good Aug 27 03:48:09 we want the same goal agreed? Aug 27 03:49:13 the topic says theres a 2.2 dump somewhere, anyone care to link me? Aug 27 03:49:23 i just want to be amused Aug 27 03:49:26 no goal Aug 27 03:49:34 just amusement Aug 27 03:49:53 so is PureDev the other team? Aug 27 03:50:03 waffles have a look on the forum Aug 27 03:50:11 just the stuffs Aug 27 03:50:11 craptain: one of the other 6 teams, yes :) Aug 27 03:50:13 cause we should totally capture their flag Aug 27 03:50:18 read* Aug 27 03:51:34 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 27 03:51:38 those asking this is the dump Aug 27 03:51:45 http://www.multiupload.com/D4Z5Z7EHGS Aug 27 03:51:48 this is the dd images Aug 27 03:51:55 you will see 13 missing. 13 is userdata Aug 27 03:52:01 it will be re-created on boot so no issues Aug 27 03:52:15 right right, cool thanks Aug 27 03:52:21 np Aug 27 03:52:32 where did this come from? who has the source, who has the rights/license to distribute it Aug 27 03:52:40 nobody Aug 27 03:52:45 gpl no? Aug 27 03:52:46 its from qualcom afaik Aug 27 03:52:49 qualcomm will sue you ass Aug 27 03:52:58 haha that graphics driver isn't gpl Aug 27 03:53:04 qualcomm doesn't port to the touchpad Aug 27 03:53:09 they do Aug 27 03:53:14 CAF just creates kernels for certain dev boards Aug 27 03:53:16 why? Aug 27 03:53:22 CAF? Aug 27 03:53:32 code aurora forum Aug 27 03:53:36 codeaurora.org Aug 27 03:53:42 yea, i know them Aug 27 03:53:49 the part of qualcomm that would have provided the upstream of this Aug 27 03:53:51 hmm Aug 27 03:53:58 they didn't open source it Aug 27 03:53:58 rhcp: it's a HP factory test image, used to test each and every touchpad ever built. Aug 27 03:54:04 the TOPAZ board files are missing Aug 27 03:54:12 from the CAF kernel Aug 27 03:54:17 they were tested on android? or was the android userland bolted on after the fact? Aug 27 03:54:31 tmzt_: look at the file listing from that dump. it's pretty obvious Aug 27 03:54:38 why did they call this a "touchpad running android" Aug 27 03:54:49 tmzt_: cause the people who found it are clueless? Aug 27 03:54:51 rwhitby: geist told us as much Aug 27 03:55:04 android kernel by itself is pointless Aug 27 03:55:16 if there's no binary driver for the gpu it does little to advance things Aug 27 03:55:25 if there is, we can't distribute it Aug 27 03:55:29 tmzt_: indeed it is a touchpad running android. as a harness to test webOS in the factory Aug 27 03:55:32 the fstab of system Aug 27 03:55:35 says right in there Aug 27 03:55:37 Copyright (c) 2010, Code Aurora Forum. All rights reserved. Aug 27 03:55:45 MrDiode: all GPL code is copyright Aug 27 03:55:52 i know Aug 27 03:55:53 tmzt_: have you seen this. http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm Aug 27 03:55:55 that's irrelevent Aug 27 03:55:56 i am saying it is from CAF Aug 27 03:55:59 not qualcomm Aug 27 03:56:02 MrDiode: all webOS kernel code originates from aurora. Aug 27 03:56:08 exactly Aug 27 03:56:13 rhcp: yeah, I've been involved in that for quite a while Aug 27 03:56:21 I setup the first gito, that one followed Aug 27 03:56:35 I'm not directly involved anymore though Aug 27 03:56:35 all the other stuff in that image comes from a qualcomm dev board image, ported to the touchpad by HP, with HP factory test apps added. Aug 27 03:56:58 didn't do vogue (dzo) or htcleo, worked on tp2 before giving up on the device Aug 27 03:57:17 rwhitby: so there's an android userland including graphical components? Aug 27 03:57:21 if you want to legally redistribute those dumps, you have to remove all the non-GPL stuff Aug 27 03:57:27 and non-AOSP stuff Aug 27 03:57:48 if you want to illegally distribute the dumps, you can leave them as is Aug 27 03:57:50 tmzt_: from the file listing it seems there is. I haven't download the dump file myself for obvious reasons Aug 27 03:58:12 I'm all for being legal, but.... lol Aug 27 03:58:20 can somebody pastebin it? Aug 27 03:58:33 craptain: yep, it all depends if you're trying to be a Aug 27 03:58:38 I think you are chasing a red herring for the most part Aug 27 03:58:42 legitimate AOSP port or not Aug 27 03:58:52 rwhitby: thats what i want tbh Aug 27 03:58:56 i dont even care about the images Aug 27 03:59:08 maybe for a few drivers? other then that Aug 27 03:59:11 give two shits Aug 27 03:59:32 now id love to replicate the kernel they used Aug 27 03:59:33 palm has their own kgsl variant probably Aug 27 03:59:36 like any of the others Aug 27 03:59:40 the GLES driver is invaluable Aug 27 03:59:43 rhcp: it's clear that none of the public android on touchpad projects have any reluctance to illegally redistribute stuff Aug 27 03:59:45 you'll never get that otherwise Aug 27 03:59:59 the craptain pwns all project does Aug 27 04:00:01 i never said legal Aug 27 04:00:05 even if i have to reverse eng it Aug 27 04:00:06 i will Aug 27 04:00:10 been there Aug 27 04:00:20 nothing wrong with reverse eng Aug 27 04:00:21 there are methods that have been tested for that Aug 27 04:00:29 tmzt_: knows ive been there Aug 27 04:00:30 :P Aug 27 04:00:34 and back Aug 27 04:00:35 and rhcp is good at documenting stuff Aug 27 04:00:45 shit i spent 2 weeks in ida Aug 27 04:00:48 a month ago Aug 27 04:00:51 but you can distribute all your own shit and get sued too Aug 27 04:00:55 so fuck it Aug 27 04:01:03 * craptain has no respect Aug 27 04:01:05 we need somebody to reimplement it that knows dri and preferably ati drivers Aug 27 04:01:30 tmzt_: is the graphics on this thing. close to any CM phones Aug 27 04:01:32 palm has a different display driver from android Aug 27 04:01:36 if you compile it from vol kernel source and apache android stuff, you really can't get sued. Aug 27 04:01:37 we can always take the drivers there Aug 27 04:01:46 umm dmca Aug 27 04:01:48 jmhalder: we are talking about prop drivers Aug 27 04:01:52 for modding touchpad Aug 27 04:01:56 you can get sued Aug 27 04:02:00 fuck that dmca Aug 27 04:02:02 you can get sued for anything Aug 27 04:02:06 rwhitby: look at it as more like patches, we would be providing a kit that somebody can build a working image from Aug 27 04:02:14 including their own contribution of blobs Aug 27 04:02:17 ill allow a guy from some country where the dmca doesnt exist to post it Aug 27 04:02:17 :P Aug 27 04:02:23 the craptain project plan is to get a clean kernel Aug 27 04:02:27 and clean ramdisk Aug 27 04:02:30 (also gpu firmware is required no matter what you do or adreno is useless) Aug 27 04:02:37 as you mentioned, does DMCA prevent you from reverse engineering drivers? Aug 27 04:02:40 ramdisk is irrelevent Aug 27 04:02:43 no Aug 27 04:02:48 you can reverse eng all you want now Aug 27 04:02:50 DMCA prevents you from holding shift while inserting a cd Aug 27 04:02:53 thankfully Aug 27 04:03:05 and jailbreaking is legal as well Aug 27 04:03:06 :P Aug 27 04:03:10 eh Aug 27 04:03:13 jailbreaking is legal Aug 27 04:03:15 rhcp, can you unlock an LG Vortex? Aug 27 04:03:20 distributing jailbreaking tools probably isn't Aug 27 04:03:22 Afteraffekt: what is it? Aug 27 04:03:23 and redistributing against copyright is still illegal Aug 27 04:03:26 its off topic msg me Aug 27 04:03:27 This is different from jailbreaking Aug 27 04:03:31 if the company pays off the judge Aug 27 04:03:32 im just saying Aug 27 04:03:37 we can revers eng the drivers if needed Aug 27 04:03:39 yup, only cause sideloading is impossible. Aug 27 04:03:39 its legal Aug 27 04:03:43 or find something else that works Aug 27 04:03:57 if its for science it isn't illegal... Aug 27 04:03:57 rwhitby: and it's only an option, I would greatly prefer an open adreno driver, that would be a worthwhile goal Aug 27 04:04:19 apple can still push updates to disable jailbreaking. Aug 27 04:04:23 lol so hard Aug 27 04:04:52 no comment on apple Aug 27 04:04:56 back on topic plz Aug 27 04:04:56 :) Aug 27 04:05:16 "jailbreaking" is gaining access to a recovery mode on the Apple device that they put their and using it to change the system permissions of a few files Aug 27 04:05:21 steve jobs is gone :(((( Aug 27 04:05:34 they provide it for iTunes and it can be used by others Aug 27 04:05:34 a little even more off topic Aug 27 04:07:22 [12:00am] <+craptain> steve jobs is gone :(((( >> his health isnt so great Aug 27 04:07:29 at some point you need to rest Aug 27 04:08:37 yea, and short apple stock Aug 27 04:09:13 long would be better, Tim Cook is a capable manaager, 20%ers make no sense Aug 27 04:09:17 anyway Aug 27 04:10:10 .... Aug 27 04:11:21 lots of heat on the forum Aug 27 04:11:24 a bit sad really Aug 27 04:11:24 vm now has 8 cores and 4gb of ram Aug 27 04:11:28 much better Aug 27 04:11:43 HURR Aug 27 04:13:07 ?? Aug 27 04:15:39 Man i'm getting jelly of these comcast guys Aug 27 04:15:46 I'm stuck with fucking centurylink Aug 27 04:17:45 yamato_pfp.fw yamato_pm4.fw Aug 27 04:18:24 rwhitby: you really lost the ability to boot a touchpad through adsp6? Aug 27 04:18:46 I thought a6 was a palm specific thing Aug 27 04:18:58 DarkRedFlame, http://results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/83861932.png Aug 27 04:19:20 so jelly Aug 27 04:19:22 damn Aug 27 04:19:30 that beats my fiber Aug 27 04:19:34 I get 20M/876K Aug 27 04:19:51 libGLESv1_CM.so libGLESv2.so Aug 27 04:19:55 they been doing channel bonding on up + down recently Aug 27 04:19:58 whut Aug 27 04:19:59 can somebody strings thouse and paste? Aug 27 04:20:01 <3 Aug 27 04:20:04 thats the max comcast offers right Aug 27 04:20:05 ? Aug 27 04:20:11 tmzt_: you are on ssh on my box right? Aug 27 04:20:15 im going ot move the dump to your dir Aug 27 04:20:16 Comcast offers 100/100 Aug 27 04:20:25 for businesses Aug 27 04:20:25 i forgot you wer in ssh Aug 27 04:20:26 :P Aug 27 04:20:27 right? Aug 27 04:20:33 I think it's home Aug 27 04:20:37 :o Aug 27 04:20:40 how much? Aug 27 04:20:43 250$/mth Aug 27 04:20:43 ? Aug 27 04:20:44 rhcp: it's okay Aug 27 04:20:47 Shitton Aug 27 04:20:49 the andorid stuff isnt moutned Aug 27 04:20:55 thats what I typically get, works pays for it so I dont see the bill. I can burst over 100mbit down Aug 27 04:21:20 I pay $40 for 20M/896K Aug 27 04:21:44 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1452331246.png Aug 27 04:22:01 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1452331493.png Aug 27 04:22:03 :( Aug 27 04:22:11 tmzt_: its in your dir Aug 27 04:22:16 here we go, libGLESv1_CM_adreno200.so libGLESv2_adreno200.so Aug 27 04:22:20 oh Aug 27 04:22:20 ok Aug 27 04:22:24 Raio http://www.speedtest.net/result/1452331246.png mine sucks ;/ Aug 27 04:22:26 just system Aug 27 04:22:29 if you want the img files Aug 27 04:22:31 i can move those too Aug 27 04:22:45 gralloc.msm8660.so Aug 27 04:22:57 just did one on speedtest, my upload has been nuts laely http://www.speedtest.net/result/1452332046.png Aug 27 04:23:03 I wish I lived in chicago instead of indianapolis lol Aug 27 04:23:09 guys on topic Aug 27 04:23:11 no speedtests plz Aug 27 04:23:12 ok ok Aug 27 04:23:13 :) Aug 27 04:23:16 thank you Aug 27 04:23:35 Ok :] Aug 27 04:24:57 * BatNode has returned Aug 27 04:25:23 Been gone for 4 hours. What did I miss Aug 27 04:25:31 not too much Aug 27 04:25:33 just a change in control Aug 27 04:25:35 and how chat Aug 27 04:25:36 :) Aug 27 04:25:37 err Aug 27 04:25:39 and chat Aug 27 04:25:41 its open now Aug 27 04:25:52 anyone can contrib Aug 27 04:25:53 so no more +m? Aug 27 04:25:55 no Aug 27 04:26:03 I'll just stay quiet and observe you devs talk tho. Aug 27 04:26:07 I can't contribute much. Aug 27 04:26:11 but anyone doing things will get kicked/banned Aug 27 04:26:13 for bashing Aug 27 04:26:20 or trying to lead users else where Aug 27 04:26:34 rhcp: you are the worst person ever, go suck one :) Aug 27 04:26:41 DarkRedFlame: haahaa Aug 27 04:26:53 lol Aug 27 04:26:58 I heard rhcp is a tranny Aug 27 04:27:03 im glad we can fucking talk now haha rhcp :) Aug 27 04:27:23 there Aug 27 04:27:38 what's the last part about? Aug 27 04:27:48 which part? Aug 27 04:27:51 lol Aug 27 04:27:58 so no more mass kicks? Aug 27 04:28:02 no Aug 27 04:28:05 ifi were to hazard a guess, tmzt. Aug 27 04:28:06 http://twitter.com/#!/jbruchon Aug 27 04:28:07 rhcp: we should have 2 chats, 1 for DEV, 1 for open chat Aug 27 04:28:13 prob that Aug 27 04:28:18 tmzt_: says its beter for open chat. Aug 27 04:28:21 i think hes right Aug 27 04:28:24 as long as its modded Aug 27 04:28:31 this is how we did g2 Aug 27 04:28:32 so fast Aug 27 04:28:34 MrDiode: he seems to be opposed to people asking questions Aug 27 04:28:38 and open github accounts Aug 27 04:28:41 so i can ask questions now? Aug 27 04:28:44 ^ Aug 27 04:28:49 as tmzt_ said Aug 27 04:28:57 hes been holding out on all of us for week Aug 27 04:28:58 + Aug 27 04:29:00 we want to inform people Aug 27 04:29:18 so having said that, where can i find how to install ubuntu nativly on the touchpad? Aug 27 04:29:22 do you have any thing tangible Aug 27 04:29:33 sailer, wrong channel for that Aug 27 04:29:36 there is a full tut Aug 27 04:29:39 on webos internals Aug 27 04:29:40 really I jointed any of this to provide support where I could Aug 27 04:29:41 that's it Aug 27 04:29:43 MrDiode, no there isn't Aug 27 04:29:51 sailerboy: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/292457-tutorial-how-get-ubuntu-touchpad.html Aug 27 04:29:53 MrDiode, i was asked to come over here when i asked on webos internals Aug 27 04:29:55 not to lead development, it just exploded on everybody Aug 27 04:29:55 He asked how to run natively, not a chroot Aug 27 04:29:57 see above Aug 27 04:30:00 don't bug the devs if you don't have to... :P Aug 27 04:30:02 jbruchon jbruchon Aug 27 04:30:03 @ Aug 27 04:30:03 @Team_eP RHCP is a sociopath. I recognize the behavior. He destroys anything that goes against him. It's a real shame. Aug 27 04:30:04 lol Aug 27 04:30:07 eh Aug 27 04:30:10 fair point Aug 27 04:30:18 yea if you believe that Aug 27 04:30:25 lol Aug 27 04:30:30 rhcp, that's chroot Aug 27 04:30:31 ask him where is his kenrel src? Aug 27 04:30:35 sailerboy: thats all i have for ya Aug 27 04:30:38 and its off topic Aug 27 04:30:39 :) Aug 27 04:30:39 ah Aug 27 04:30:45 people were talking earlier Aug 27 04:30:48 lol Aug 27 04:30:51 sociopath Aug 27 04:30:51 rofl Aug 27 04:30:56 rhcp, where would it be on topic then? Aug 27 04:31:00 dev Aug 27 04:31:08 well, if we had a way to run an alt os Aug 27 04:31:15 our problems and your problems would be solved Aug 27 04:31:18 (native) Aug 27 04:31:19 rhcp, #puredev? Aug 27 04:31:23 no Aug 27 04:31:27 puredev is android Aug 27 04:31:37 so where do i ask about ubuntu on topic then :| Aug 27 04:31:41 do you have any thing tangible Aug 27 04:31:41 sailerboy: #webos-internals to discuss the ubuntu chroot, unless rwhitby says otherwise Aug 27 04:31:41 sailerboy: ill guess youdidnt read the topic Aug 27 04:31:44 about spamming chans Aug 27 04:31:53 esp jb's Aug 27 04:31:57 Yet to see where he is spamming Aug 27 04:31:58 1 warning Aug 27 04:32:03 MrDiode: native? Aug 27 04:32:05 oh we can talk in here again Aug 27 04:32:08 yes Aug 27 04:32:12 rhcp, i'm unclear about how i'm spamming Aug 27 04:32:16 tmzt_, what about native ubuntu? Aug 27 04:32:22 Yes tmzt_ , a guy was here earlier claiming he had ubuntu running natively Aug 27 04:32:43 woo ignoring questions Aug 27 04:32:56 it's a linux kernel, you can run ubuntu natively Aug 27 04:33:09 Daniel you will know when we do bro, chill :P Aug 27 04:33:19 you won't have gpu acceleration, and fbdev seems to be missing from these kernels so Xorg/Xfbdev won't work Aug 27 04:33:34 but you can possibly use the qualcomm X driver to do it Aug 27 04:33:43 it's not the topic for #touchdroid though Aug 27 04:34:07 Oh wow. We have Ubuntu on the Touchpad. Nice. Aug 27 04:34:13 tmzt_, tell me where to direct my conversation and i'll gladly do it Aug 27 04:34:14 #TouchPadUbuntu Aug 27 04:34:27 I have a newb question. If and when android is ported over, is it true we'll lose the ability to see/use flash in the browser natively? Aug 27 04:34:33 you could probably enable msmfb and have a slow but functional android Aug 27 04:34:56 Logoboy: most methods of booting android on tp will preserve the webos install Aug 27 04:35:04 nice! Aug 27 04:35:10 all righty, tmzt_, i saw several people talking about ubuntu on here earlier Aug 27 04:35:11 i still think we're best off with a dalvik emulator Aug 27 04:35:23 lawsuit city Aug 27 04:35:24 likewise lonequid Aug 27 04:35:26 once you tell me where to redirect my convo to an established channel, i'll gladly do that Aug 27 04:35:30 also, if the gpu driver works you might be able to use a flash implementation from another device Aug 27 04:35:31 freeware Aug 27 04:35:33 otherwise, i'll continue to ask about it on here Aug 27 04:35:47 host on foreign torrent site Aug 27 04:35:54 i like this whole "tell the ops whats what" thing Aug 27 04:35:58 sailerboy: chroot or native? Aug 27 04:36:02 tmzt_, native Aug 27 04:36:09 nobody is working on that Aug 27 04:36:09 sailerboy: maybe they don't know where to direct you> Aug 27 04:36:14 so there's nowhee to discuss it Aug 27 04:36:15 I thought that there was a gentleman in here before claiming to have native Ubuntu Aug 27 04:36:20 sailerboy: Maybe #touchpad-root? Aug 27 04:36:44 respect mah authoritah Aug 27 04:37:15 please stop suggesting made up channels Aug 27 04:37:19 it's not nice Aug 27 04:37:54 sailerboy can't run his mouth anymore anyways Aug 27 04:38:32 this is an improvement over the old method Aug 27 04:38:41 ? Aug 27 04:38:43 lol you guys muting individually now? Aug 27 04:38:49 i am Aug 27 04:38:53 +win Aug 27 04:38:56 :) Aug 27 04:39:16 i lost my +v on both names Aug 27 04:39:17 trying not to be trigger happy, but his attitude wasn't helping my patience Aug 27 04:39:31 what's your reg nick? Aug 27 04:39:37 fnj00/fnj00-work Aug 27 04:39:55 you can identify to fnj00 even when you are on a different nick Aug 27 04:40:04 ./nickserv identify Aug 27 04:40:06 yeah cept still logged on at home Aug 27 04:40:12 you misunderstand Aug 27 04:40:17 guysz Aug 27 04:40:31 whats the status thus far on this? Aug 27 04:40:33 my TP came with XP preinstalled O___o Aug 27 04:40:46 tmzt_: if you want to try to compile. you are ona I7 with 16G of ram Aug 27 04:40:46 lol nice Aug 27 04:40:46 :) Aug 27 04:40:55 you can logon to irc on ANY nick, and do /nickserv identify and you are essentially signed into that Aug 27 04:41:00 didnt know i could identify as the same on both Aug 27 04:41:08 identify yes, not use at the same time Aug 27 04:41:23 but if fnj00 is on the access list, you will get +v on whatever nick you are currently using if you ident as fnj00 Aug 27 04:41:57 rhcp: you ha e touch checked out? Aug 27 04:42:06 tmzt_: sorry? Aug 27 04:42:17 you want me to clone the kernel for you? Aug 27 04:42:35 hey ops Aug 27 04:42:57 ./mode #touchdroid +q Aug 27 04:43:02 individual mute Aug 27 04:43:09 ./mode #touchdroid -q Aug 27 04:43:10 removes Aug 27 04:43:14 rhcp/tmzt - is the kernel you are working on public git or no Aug 27 04:43:23 use it Aug 27 04:43:23 if no, what is base? qualcomm? android? Aug 27 04:43:27 its nothng special. Aug 27 04:43:32 jb has something. but hes hiding it Aug 27 04:43:33 so w/e Aug 27 04:43:40 yeah Aug 27 04:43:41 Why is he hiding it? Aug 27 04:43:43 webos 3.0.2 + patch Aug 27 04:43:44 no idea Aug 27 04:43:45 just want to know your base Aug 27 04:43:46 ok Aug 27 04:43:47 bounty? perhaps? Aug 27 04:43:54 Speaking of JB where is he Aug 27 04:43:58 gone Aug 27 04:44:07 no more iron fist bullshit Aug 27 04:44:16 want to talk talk. but keep on topic and dont spam etc Aug 27 04:44:20 /topic Aug 27 04:44:41 no know knew me in G2root. i saw scotty 2 posting asm Aug 27 04:44:43 he was tired Aug 27 04:44:46 if it were +m Aug 27 04:44:48 04:35 -!- mode/#touchdroid [+q sailerboy!*@*] by MrMuffin Aug 27 04:44:49 wed not have root Aug 27 04:44:58 tmzt_: can attest i think Aug 27 04:45:00 if he was there Aug 27 04:45:06 i pointed the gpio pulldown Aug 27 04:45:08 I wasn't I don't think Aug 27 04:45:24 that was before I got really involved with it Aug 27 04:45:24 and blango eemc unlocked Aug 27 04:45:29 uh Aug 27 04:45:30 no Aug 27 04:45:31 no Aug 27 04:45:32 join #hp-dev Aug 27 04:45:37 Whoops Aug 27 04:45:40 Wrong chat Aug 27 04:45:42 you had the same thing that cmonex did but she didn't see it either Aug 27 04:45:47 we had the number and not the method Aug 27 04:45:57 ;) i saw it Aug 27 04:45:58 we had the answer starting us in the face over a month Aug 27 04:46:02 ctrl + enter / without the ./ Aug 27 04:46:07 /like this Aug 27 04:46:10 :) Aug 27 04:46:14 yelled at scoty2 DUDE! Aug 27 04:46:15 hes like no Aug 27 04:46:18 finnally he tried it Aug 27 04:46:21 boom eemc unlocked Aug 27 04:46:22 :P Aug 27 04:46:30 anyway back on topic Aug 27 04:46:40 tmzt_: you want the kernel + patched in your /home Aug 27 04:46:41 ? Aug 27 04:46:45 that is absurdly wrong and insulting to us Aug 27 04:46:47 ill clone it Aug 27 04:47:47 hi all Aug 27 04:47:49 sure Aug 27 04:48:01 k Aug 27 04:48:21 any more luck on craptain's booting and getting everything working? Aug 27 04:48:47 craptain still trying to get screen to work Aug 27 04:49:00 cleaning up kernel Aug 27 04:49:04 screen -q Aug 27 04:49:16 rhcp Aug 27 04:49:18 pm Aug 27 04:50:51 ah I see. big feat though... trying to fix problems on the device with touchdroid on it. lol Aug 27 04:52:13 AHCompy: "with touchdroid on it" Aug 27 04:52:19 and what problems are you running into, exactly? Aug 27 04:52:38 And MrDiode You're looking in the wrong place Aug 27 04:53:03 trsohmers: he said he got it booting the other-day. lol Aug 27 04:53:15 Yea, craptain got it booting last night Aug 27 04:53:19 Touchscreen issues Aug 27 04:54:00 tmzt_: it will be in your dir in 10 seconds Aug 27 04:54:01 or so Aug 27 04:54:01 thomas what are you referencing Aug 27 04:54:07 yeah thats it. lol big feat. I would love to help, but I know nothing about how android works... hoping to learn Aug 27 04:54:22 MrDiode: If you are trying to clean up the kernel to fix the touchscreen, you are not doing the right thing. Aug 27 04:54:30 i am not, craptain is Aug 27 04:54:41 Ah, OK Aug 27 04:54:43 display driver is its own firmware Aug 27 04:54:49 thats why Im usually "idling" in here...Im actually reading the whole time when Im at home. Aug 27 04:54:50 and needs to be in persist Aug 27 04:54:50 It's not the display driver Aug 27 04:55:05 so instead of being vague, just say what needs to be done Aug 27 04:55:12 gpu **has* it's own firmware Aug 27 04:55:14 unless you are withholding Aug 27 04:55:34 which is loaded by the kgsl driver in the kernel Aug 27 04:55:45 MrDiode: I am withholding some information, sorry. I really can't say much more. Aug 27 04:55:57 It's cypress…not display drivers. Aug 27 04:56:05 :-) secrets are pretty cool. haha Aug 27 04:57:39 trsohmers: this is not personal in any way. but if you dont want to talk. here. want to be with jb. please go Aug 27 04:57:47 comments are not needed Aug 27 04:57:54 rhcp: I did give a pretty good hint right there Aug 27 04:58:08 im just being very honest with you. im not banning you or kicking Aug 27 04:58:12 i forgive anything you have done Aug 27 04:58:16 i just want to move forward Aug 27 04:58:37 You guys should all work together <3 Aug 27 04:58:39 feel free to part. if you dont want to talk Aug 27 04:59:51 unless of course its under NDA Aug 27 05:00:14 AndroIRC ... Aug 27 05:00:20 on the TP?! :D Aug 27 05:00:26 no Aug 27 05:00:31 :( Aug 27 05:00:33 damage having issues with his nickserv reg Aug 27 05:00:53 Logoboy: use wIRC Aug 27 05:01:07 mirc ftw Aug 27 05:01:17 mirc on my netbook Aug 27 05:01:18 I'm not under NDA, it is just I would be breaking some serious ethical grounds Aug 27 05:01:20 wirc on my touchpad Aug 27 05:01:24 between a friend and I Aug 27 05:01:30 Irssi + screen ftw Aug 27 05:02:02 freenode webchat ftw :D Aug 27 05:02:16 @trsohmers - would this info help us develop faster? Aug 27 05:02:19 yeah Aug 27 05:02:30 it would be nice if i could connect to freenode! Aug 27 05:02:36 BatNode: Not really… still hard to get past the roadblock Aug 27 05:02:43 while connected to verizon's internet... Aug 27 05:02:50 You can Aug 27 05:02:59 ooo NDA info Aug 27 05:03:01 i like Aug 27 05:03:04 I used to it all the time Aug 27 05:03:15 i almost have custom kernel working anyway Aug 27 05:03:26 craptain: yea? Aug 27 05:03:26 w good touch Aug 27 05:03:39 oh you mean the qualcom dump stuff? Aug 27 05:03:41 yea Aug 27 05:03:43 na Aug 27 05:03:44 h Aug 27 05:03:46 custom Aug 27 05:03:49 kk Aug 27 05:03:59 What is the roadblock at this time trsohmers? Aug 27 05:04:12 What craptain is currently facing Aug 27 05:04:44 In kernel? Aug 27 05:04:48 some touch firmware? Aug 27 05:04:59 i mean w/o a different touch firmware, it won't work w stock kernel Aug 27 05:05:08 besides, we want custom kernel anyway Aug 27 05:05:17 touch firmware? Aug 27 05:05:19 craptain: Do you really? Aug 27 05:05:51 I think at this point we just want something that works no matter how we have to get it :P Aug 27 05:06:05 just not the qualcom stuff Aug 27 05:06:11 not interested at all Aug 27 05:06:14 do i really what? Aug 27 05:06:34 craptain: Do you really think it has to do with touch firmware Aug 27 05:06:39 yes Aug 27 05:06:40 sorry, I mis worded it before Aug 27 05:06:54 the qualcomm kernel uses a different driver Aug 27 05:07:19 You're looking in the wrong place Aug 27 05:07:49 well i want a custom kernel anyway Aug 27 05:08:06 im not going based off the qualcom kernel Aug 27 05:08:27 is the firmware not flashable? cant we just dump whatever is on these working androids tps and put them on on ours Aug 27 05:08:35 it's flashable yes Aug 27 05:08:40 but idk how to dump it Aug 27 05:08:44 is it a legal thing? Aug 27 05:08:45 oh Aug 27 05:08:50 i hate legal things Aug 27 05:08:56 its never legal things Aug 27 05:08:57 craptain: plz to explain Aug 27 05:09:02 what do you want to dump? Aug 27 05:09:13 the touch panel firmware from an android device Aug 27 05:09:22 its in the 1.img Aug 27 05:09:24 thats firmware Aug 27 05:09:33 not there Aug 27 05:09:39 whats the name of the file Aug 27 05:09:40 webos has /lib/firmware/CY... Aug 27 05:09:49 its not a file Aug 27 05:09:50 it seems i boot into the android kernel splited from 8.img Aug 27 05:09:52 tmzt_: posted them all Aug 27 05:09:55 its in the cypress chip Aug 27 05:10:01 now I can not connect to the tp. Aug 27 05:10:53 crap still no adb in custom kernel Aug 27 05:11:06 Cypress FX2(LP) programmer tool? Aug 27 05:11:12 connect usb get nothing Aug 27 05:11:13 do you have your init.rc correct Aug 27 05:11:14 for adb Aug 27 05:11:22 yea Aug 27 05:11:23 you need to have all the shit right Aug 27 05:11:25 or it wont work Aug 27 05:11:30 craptain: I got an idea for you Aug 27 05:11:34 it's a kernel issue Aug 27 05:11:36 why dont you post your kernel src's and stuff Aug 27 05:11:43 and allow tmzt_ to helkp or i or vinylfreak89 Aug 27 05:11:56 i'm using the msm from those integrator people Aug 27 05:12:05 dl it from there Aug 27 05:12:09 who? Aug 27 05:12:11 you modded it? Aug 27 05:12:13 you said Aug 27 05:12:16 those people, you know Aug 27 05:12:21 code aurora? Aug 27 05:12:24 them Aug 27 05:12:26 craptain, if you boot into your kernel without adb, do you still have novacom? Aug 27 05:12:35 err, not really Aug 27 05:12:41 i don't have novacom on my ramdisk Aug 27 05:12:52 so ,how can you reboot? Aug 27 05:12:52 but i can build the kernel with a working novacom gadget Aug 27 05:12:58 the buttons Aug 27 05:13:06 which button? Aug 27 05:13:11 the reboot one Aug 27 05:13:15 power + home Aug 27 05:13:16 or w/e Aug 27 05:13:20 to force a reboot Aug 27 05:13:23 nah, i'm using hard resets Aug 27 05:13:25 yea Aug 27 05:13:26 yes Aug 27 05:13:34 got it Aug 27 05:13:37 or else time to take your device apart Aug 27 05:13:39 to get battery Aug 27 05:13:43 thanks. Aug 27 05:15:20 get5 battery? Aug 27 05:15:31 there's probably a key combination Aug 27 05:15:38 just as thee is to get into bootie Aug 27 05:16:02 he knows the combo he said already Aug 27 05:16:08 sharing src yet no :) Aug 27 05:16:08 the usb stuff in board-tenderloin i think is bad Aug 27 05:16:29 it's bar for android Aug 27 05:16:37 bad Aug 27 05:16:41 Aug 27 05:16:46 android has it's own way Aug 27 05:20:10 why does everybody want adb access to the device under an android kernel? Aug 27 05:20:19 For logcats Aug 27 05:20:23 and to push things easily Aug 27 05:20:33 It's a developer tool that helps in debugging Aug 27 05:20:50 I think I'm in android recovery. but without adb and fastboot either. Aug 27 05:20:55 If you have touchscreen problems just logcat it with adb and you can look for errors, ect Aug 27 05:33:36 so I see some program called fxload that is used to flash cypress usb firmware but no way to dump. cypress has some tool that makes it dump using windows.... Aug 27 05:34:14 windoze… seriously... Aug 27 05:34:51 http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/9f8987f2f097f6e8?pli=1 Aug 27 05:38:20 who has a touchpad to sell :( Aug 27 05:38:27 Lol.... Key was rejected by service.Owner died.State not recoverable.Stupid C library hack !!...stack corruption detected: aborted../proc/self/exe../dev/urandom Aug 27 05:39:37 ? Aug 27 05:39:52 its in img12 Aug 27 05:40:04 strings? Aug 27 05:40:17 tmzt_: back to us :) Aug 27 05:41:53 Yeah lot of random stuff, Im not really much into android stuff so I dont know exactly what it all stands for, but some dirs and stuff Aug 27 05:47:03 Hmm there is a copyright notice in it from Aurora Forum that says the source code can be used an redistro'd as long as you put a disclamer in the documentation Aug 27 05:47:44 that's a bsd license Aug 27 05:47:50 I suppose people don't know the meaning of /away.. when my name is greyed out I'm not here Aug 27 05:48:05 not every client supports that Aug 27 05:48:09 use _away Aug 27 05:48:46 DTCBob: we use stuff from auroa for tbolt Aug 27 05:48:47 for LTE Aug 27 05:48:50 for AOSP Aug 27 05:48:54 dont worry about them Aug 27 05:48:59 I was going to come in and ask if you guys had been talking to rod Whitby but I see him in channel. hehe Aug 27 05:49:05 you just need to put it in the topc comments Aug 27 05:49:06 done done Aug 27 05:49:14 tmzt_: term Aug 27 05:49:55 whoa - i can talk! no state of the union speeches now? what a concept! Aug 27 05:50:00 oops Aug 27 05:50:02 wtf Aug 27 05:50:07 did we find abug in screen? Aug 27 05:50:08 lol Aug 27 05:50:13 reopen Aug 27 05:50:14 no, I exited Aug 27 05:50:17 oh Aug 27 05:50:18 your damn hostname is root Aug 27 05:50:20 it segd Aug 27 05:50:23 no its not Aug 27 05:50:26 root.blah Aug 27 05:50:30 thought I was logged in a syou Aug 27 05:50:44 @root: Aug 27 05:50:51 Whats fm_qsoc? Aug 27 05:51:23 probably related to fm radio Aug 27 05:51:31 but can you give me other files with the same prefix? Aug 27 05:52:20 Shell: Default case". /system/bin/fm_qsoc_patches $version 1. ;;.esac..exit_code_fm_qsoc_patches=$?..case $exit_code_fm_qsoc_patches in. 0)..logi "FM QSoC calibration and firmware download succeeded". Aug 27 05:54:58 anybody here? Aug 27 05:55:11 * sCr|pTiC- yawns Aug 27 05:55:32 sleeping i guess, Aug 27 05:55:37 afk sleep Aug 27 05:56:28 Framework? Aug 27 05:57:40 yes? Aug 27 05:58:00 Aug 26, 2011 10:27 PM Aug 27 05:58:01 Arrived at FedEx location Aug 27 05:58:01 PHOENIX, AZ Aug 27 05:58:01 weee Aug 27 05:58:04 we are here Aug 27 05:58:05 its in my city :) Aug 27 05:58:09 Mine is too Aug 27 05:58:10 :D Aug 27 05:58:15 tomorrow is the day muahah Aug 27 05:58:16 :P Aug 27 05:58:38 HP wont process me order :( Aug 27 05:59:20 Framework. less HP. More DX. Aug 27 05:59:21 :P Aug 27 05:59:31 pshh Aug 27 05:59:43 hp > dx Aug 27 05:59:45 sowwie Aug 27 05:59:50 eh i only kid. i have an inc Aug 27 06:00:26 dx? Aug 27 06:00:31 droid x Aug 27 06:00:35 ah Aug 27 06:00:39 yea thats what i said Aug 27 06:00:40 AHHHHH Aug 27 06:00:43 hp touchpad > droid x? Aug 27 06:00:53 A+, nhat Aug 27 06:01:00 i want a gold star Aug 27 06:02:50 fine don't give me one, i'll be eating my 4 piece nuggets Aug 27 06:03:59 tmzt_: term Aug 27 06:05:10 shit, I forgot mcdonalds is open 24 hours and serves regular food until 4 Aug 27 06:05:12 I better get going Aug 27 06:05:29 4am = breakfast right Aug 27 06:05:40 yup Aug 27 06:05:45 you would think 5, but nope Aug 27 06:05:59 it's 2 here Aug 27 06:06:02 the switch Aug 27 06:06:04 makes no sense Aug 27 06:06:44 i'd be ok with a sausage egg and cheese biscuit with a has brown Aug 27 06:06:54 The topic here and the topic in #touchpad conflict with each other Aug 27 06:07:32 shall i take over touchpad as well :P Aug 27 06:07:36 do it Aug 27 06:07:36 jk Aug 27 06:07:57 ive had enough of owning people for awhile Aug 27 06:08:24 work less play Aug 27 06:08:27 Is it safe to talk and not just lurk now? ;) Aug 27 06:08:29 thing is generally I've found anything past midnight at McDonalds is either going to be cold, hard, or you will sit there for half an hour while they make more Aug 27 06:08:30 go own hp kthx Aug 27 06:08:37 my TP came with XP preinstalled O___o Aug 27 06:08:44 TellarHK: read topic Aug 27 06:08:48 i will sell it for 700 Aug 27 06:08:49 $ Aug 27 06:08:57 and you got answer to q Aug 27 06:08:58 acfrazier very true but somehow i got everything fresh tonight for some reason Aug 27 06:09:00 rhcp: Just kidding, I saw. ;) Aug 27 06:09:03 =) Aug 27 06:09:07 the fries were too salty :| Aug 27 06:09:11 Figured the mood could be a little lighter tonight. ;) Aug 27 06:09:17 it is Aug 27 06:09:21 way lightly Aug 27 06:09:24 lighter Aug 27 06:09:27 hence no +m Aug 27 06:10:25 gay Aug 27 06:10:40 I wish I were qualified to get in on dev stuff, so I just lurk and learn, typically. The Touchpad is some decent hardware in need of a _great_ OS. Aug 27 06:10:56 Unfortunaately, WebOS is just passable. Android (3+) could be much nicer someday. Aug 27 06:10:57 personally i think most of my pads are staying webos Aug 27 06:10:59 tbh Aug 27 06:11:07 i like webos Aug 27 06:11:17 after having a chance to play with it on a much bigger screen Aug 27 06:11:18 I've only got one, but I'll probably put Honeycomb or ICS on it when those are developed out. Aug 27 06:11:30 honeycomb can be done via sdk Aug 27 06:11:32 WebOS + Android Apps = WIN! Aug 27 06:11:33 it sucks ass on the pre because the screen is so damn small Aug 27 06:11:37 deeper-blue can do it Aug 27 06:11:43 hes done it for nook Aug 27 06:11:49 as I've stated many many times in the past, if I can get ALARM to work on it I will be content. Aug 27 06:11:56 WebOS is much, much better with patches. Aug 27 06:12:10 I'm just shocked HP let it loose in such a condition. Aug 27 06:12:20 TellarHK patches and 1.5ghz Aug 27 06:12:21 well i hope they opensource it fully Aug 27 06:12:27 nhat: Yeah. Aug 27 06:12:29 personally, id love to run it + dev it Aug 27 06:12:31 as is Aug 27 06:12:36 and say fuck to android Aug 27 06:12:38 i love this as is Aug 27 06:12:49 FUCK YEA Aug 27 06:12:49 There's no way they'll do that, not after paying an assload for Palm. Aug 27 06:12:54 adb on custom kernel :) Aug 27 06:13:00 -.- Aug 27 06:13:00 that was not easy :) Aug 27 06:13:00 rhcp word. i'm somewhat sad that webos is, for the most part, dead Aug 27 06:13:09 we can replace luna Aug 27 06:13:09 rhcp word. i'm somewhat sad that webos is, for the most part, dead Aug 27 06:13:09 the os could be dead Aug 27 06:13:10 And who knows what custom, or patent cross-licensed stuff is in it. Aug 27 06:13:11 LOL Aug 27 06:13:11 eventually Aug 27 06:13:13 but apps can be weitten Aug 27 06:13:17 craptain: What? Aug 27 06:13:19 well, perhaps whoever buys webos next will open source it Aug 27 06:13:20 the OS is not dead Aug 27 06:13:25 rhcp for sure. that dude is still writing patches for the os Aug 27 06:13:26 got adb working on custom kernel Aug 27 06:13:33 craptain: pathces? Aug 27 06:13:40 I actually believe that WebOS isn't dead yet. Aug 27 06:13:48 Because it isnt. Aug 27 06:13:51 rhcp: so it just builds? Aug 27 06:14:00 With all this exposure, it's not Aug 27 06:14:00 the hardware is dead.. the software lives on Aug 27 06:14:05 webos needs licensing Aug 27 06:14:09 Its so much better as a tablet OS than a phone one Aug 27 06:14:10 not hardware Aug 27 06:14:20 We'll see WebOS on a Tegra 2 based system within a year or so. Aug 27 06:14:25 Or whatever comes after that. Aug 27 06:14:35 Framework yup, it makes for a far better tablet than smartphone os Aug 27 06:14:57 Will it even be possible to get a Pre3 in the US? After using webOS on the TP I want a phone that has it as well Aug 27 06:15:06 Probably no. Aug 27 06:15:48 HP is probably going to lose a few Vice Presidents over this mess. If not a CEO. Aug 27 06:16:38 hm. according to google the device will work on AT&T to a limited extent because it only supports certain freqs, but with tmob you're stuck with edge. Aug 27 06:17:21 Yeah, AT&T's 3G and T-Mobile's are on different bands. Aug 27 06:17:23 HP is slowly going to pull out of the laptop buis as well Aug 27 06:17:38 that's what i've read Aug 27 06:17:57 HP's looking to sell the consumer computer division. Aug 27 06:18:02 I laughed so hard at that, because the local high school here recently spent $1 million in my tax dollars on PCs Aug 27 06:18:03 They'll keep enterprise stuff though. Aug 27 06:18:17 (all HP laptops for the kids) Aug 27 06:18:45 They'll be fine. Aug 27 06:18:56 It'll basically just be a rerun of IBM exiting the same market. Aug 27 06:19:02 i'd much rather see honeycomb or ics on an omap/snapdragon :x Aug 27 06:19:19 They'll get sold off to someone new like IBM's consumer division was, and they'll transition the name. Aug 27 06:19:33 I thought IBM's business PC divison was sold as well Aug 27 06:19:40 they only do mainframes and shit now Aug 27 06:19:42 Well, yeah. All their PC stuff. Aug 27 06:19:45 uhh Aug 27 06:19:47 lenoevo Aug 27 06:19:49 But the HP deal is about the same thing. Aug 27 06:19:52 Yep. Aug 27 06:19:54 is ibm's stuff now Aug 27 06:19:57 and topic plz Aug 27 06:20:05 Lenovo bought IBM. Aug 27 06:20:14 (Well, that division) Aug 27 06:20:19 also tmzt_ term! Aug 27 06:20:20 :P Aug 27 06:20:21 <_litz> those ibm e-servers are serious hardware, though Aug 27 06:20:39 <_litz> easily on a par w/hp's DL-series Aug 27 06:20:50 <_litz> (dell's are pretty good, but their QC sucks) Aug 27 06:20:54 I just bought a couple DL140's last week. :) Aug 27 06:21:08 i hate dell Aug 27 06:21:15 <_litz> we build on DL360/380, and IBM x3550/3650 Aug 27 06:21:22 All the companies out there have good and bad points. Aug 27 06:21:31 <_litz> that IBM M3 series is a badass server Aug 27 06:21:45 Only two companies I'd buy a laptop from for the most part, though. Apple and Clevo/Sager. Aug 27 06:22:13 I'd only but a laptop from Apple, Asus, and system76. Aug 27 06:22:16 *buy Aug 27 06:22:21 Clevo/Sager? Aug 27 06:22:49 never heard of clevo/sager or system76 Aug 27 06:22:53 to google Aug 27 06:22:55 System76 = Clevo = Sager Aug 27 06:22:59 Same thing. :) Aug 27 06:23:09 Clevo builds them, resells them to other companies. Aug 27 06:23:44 My laptop is the Sager NP8130 AKA the System 76 Serval Professional. Aug 27 06:24:28 The big deal with Sager is that they pack a lot of performance into a decent price. And with -replaceable components-. Aug 27 06:24:47 I can change my CPU or GPU if I want to, without voiding my warranty. Aug 27 06:25:00 That's awesome. Aug 27 06:25:20 i got a work supplied leveno w500. I have had no issues with it so far. Worst laptop company in my opinion is acer and toshiba. All toshibas I have had are super hot and they break :( I Aug 27 06:25:20 Yeah, it is. :) Though the parts are expensive enough, I probably won't ever be able to afford to do it. Aug 27 06:25:35 I've been mainly sticking to Apple. Only laptops to ever last me beyond 1 year. D: Aug 27 06:25:44 Record is at 3 years. Aug 27 06:25:46 I couldn't justify Apple this time around. Aug 27 06:26:05 My Apple laptops lasted me -years-. Three of them in 10 years. Aug 27 06:26:16 They're really durable. xD Aug 27 06:26:17 But I just got sick of not having _ANY_ damn power to work with. Aug 27 06:26:34 I wanted to punch Jobs in his cancer scar for the damn onboard video terribleness. :P Aug 27 06:26:50 I'm not getting too bad with my 2009 model. Aug 27 06:27:13 I'm definitely not going to be able to play newer games, but I can do my 3D modelling, and I can develop on it. Aug 27 06:27:17 It was more the cheap, shitty screen than the chip admittedly. Aug 27 06:27:26 I had no idea the Macbook's screen was -that- bad. Aug 27 06:27:32 Mine was an '08. Aug 27 06:28:23 But for $1200, I got an i7-2630 (Sandy Bridge), a GTX 460M, 500 gigs of drive, and a nice 15.6" full HD _Matte_ display. Aug 27 06:28:29 develop on it? How do you get vs on a mac :) jking Aug 27 06:28:33 There was no contest. Aug 27 06:28:36 run windows Aug 27 06:28:37 VS? Aug 27 06:28:39 O_o Aug 27 06:28:40 tmzt_: term Aug 27 06:28:43 really ot Aug 27 06:28:43 I use Eclipse. Aug 27 06:28:59 I used Eclipse when I was on Windows as well. Aug 27 06:29:02 :3 Aug 27 06:35:18 I have a sim slot on the top right of my touchpad? Does it work? Aug 27 06:35:35 That's not really a SIM slot. Aug 27 06:35:42 It's a placeholder for the cancelled 3G model's. Aug 27 06:35:48 ahh Aug 27 06:35:57 strange it has some numbers on it when I pull it out Aug 27 06:36:21 That's where they hid the serial. Aug 27 06:36:33 ahh Aug 27 06:36:43 I use the official HP case so that way the ugly slot is hidden Aug 27 06:38:06 I wish it charged on the Touchstone better with the case on. Aug 27 06:38:27 It -works- but it slips off sometimes, and I've had my charging indicator get seemingly stuck in a loop with a bad signal. Aug 27 06:38:29 meh. it gets to full charge about the same time for me Aug 27 06:38:46 change the angle of the case Aug 27 06:38:49 er Aug 27 06:38:51 touchstone Aug 27 06:39:00 Yeah, that's probably the best way to do it then. Aug 27 06:39:19 you are charging it the way it says to, right? Aug 27 06:39:20 there may be the pinout for a 3g module near that slot Aug 27 06:39:21 flap in the front? Aug 27 06:39:30 http://pastie.org/2437535 <-- video driver issue, ideas? Aug 27 06:39:32 i found it stayed on better with the case flap folded back Aug 27 06:39:45 Just leave the flap lying on the desk? Aug 27 06:39:47 Ughh. Aug 27 06:40:06 dumb I know, but it seems to work the best that way Aug 27 06:40:07 no, so it's just the flap on the stand, the touchpad hangs out in front a bit Aug 27 06:40:08 it'd be fun to have a rutty, beat-up touchpad to disassemble and mod Aug 27 06:40:33 I don't have enough desk space for that. :) Aug 27 06:40:51 I need to move my Apple IIgs someplace else first. Aug 27 06:40:57 where mine charges, neither do I. it hangs over the edge. Aug 27 06:41:09 I have very curious and annoying cats. ;) Aug 27 06:41:20 just don't have cats, I found my touchpad on the floor because someone decided it would be a good idea to paw at it Aug 27 06:41:23 ah, lol Aug 27 06:42:30 why have a cat, when you can have a touchpad Aug 27 06:42:42 Cats have a better shelf life. ;) Aug 27 06:42:51 cats don't have wifi Aug 27 06:43:07 soon, young padawan.. soon Aug 27 06:45:59 wirehead: there's no 3g module, the soc is a non-3g version of a 3g chipset Aug 27 06:46:23 if they ever make one with it it will just have the rf chips added and the proper version of the 8x6x Aug 27 06:46:46 tmzt_, nothing where a 3g module can be soldered on? Aug 27 06:47:00 only usb Aug 27 06:47:10 ah well Aug 27 06:47:11 LOL! Aug 27 06:47:13 that was funny Aug 27 06:47:16 tmzt_: rebooted me Aug 27 06:47:16 lol Aug 27 06:47:18 by accident Aug 27 06:50:16 Wow, speaking of laptops from earlier. Apparently Razer is getting into the game of selling vastly overpriced laptops, too. It's not just Apple anymore. http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/08/razer-to-release-stylish-2800-gaming-laptop-complete-with-dynamic-buttons.ars Aug 27 06:50:18 tmzt_: term Aug 27 06:50:20 :P Aug 27 06:51:16 arent they they mouse people? Aug 27 06:51:21 Yeah. Aug 27 06:51:39 That thing _looks_ nice. Aug 27 06:51:49 concepts generally do Aug 27 06:51:55 But $2800 my _ass_. Aug 27 06:52:00 LOL Aug 27 06:52:20 looking at the specs... something that thin would melt. Aug 27 06:52:51 And hey, look. Here's a Sager you can spec out almost the same except for the gimmicky keyboard. http://sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP5175 Aug 27 06:52:53 looks pretty sweet but too expensive Aug 27 06:53:07 Starting for under a grand. :) Aug 27 06:53:32 the razer one. 2800 dollars. I could buy 28 touchpads :P Aug 27 06:53:42 Good luck finding 2. ;) Aug 27 06:53:44 doesn't matter what it starts at.. what does the one with similar/identical specs cost Aug 27 06:53:53 brb Aug 27 06:54:41 acfrazier: $1119. Aug 27 06:55:01 Actually, no. Aug 27 06:55:28 The CPU is faster on the Razer. 2.8 vs. 2.0. Aug 27 06:55:59 Ewww. Aug 27 06:56:29 But the Razer's is a dual with HT. The 2620 I speced the Sager with is the same I have in my laptop, it's a 2.0 with four cores and hyperthreading. Aug 27 06:57:21 I'd rather have the quad 2.0, myself. Aug 27 07:01:56 TellarHK, oh wow.. dual core? nearly 3 grand? yuck Aug 27 07:02:30 acfrazier: Yeah. Aug 27 07:02:48 And the 555M video is _okay_, it's Optimus so you'll get better battery life. But. Aug 27 07:03:00 It's slower than my battery hogging 460. Aug 27 07:03:52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Email-DRAWING-HP-Touchpad-Apple-Tablet-/290603581227?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item43a952bf2b#ht_500wt_1202 Aug 27 07:04:10 lol Aug 27 07:04:24 Haha Aug 27 07:05:42 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drawing-HP-Touchpad-16GB-WI-FI-9-7-WHITE-READ-/170687176878?pt=Art_Drawings&hash=item27bdbfa0ae#ht_876wt_881 Aug 27 07:05:46 lolz Aug 27 07:05:51 the winner is not gonna pay Aug 27 07:05:53 I will put $10 on it Aug 27 07:06:04 ] mmcid 0 Aug 27 07:06:05 cid: 0x2010053 0x454d3332 0x479070f0 0x9e0d4e6a mfg id: 0x2 oem id: 0x100 name: 'SEM32G' rev: 0x90 sn: 0x70f09e0d date: 4.2011 Aug 27 07:06:07 interseting Aug 27 07:06:43 hmm... maybe the reserve isn't met yet. Aug 27 07:11:26 lol on that drawing someone retracted their bid of $75,100 because "the description changed" I bet it's because so he won't have to pay up if he wins lol Aug 27 07:13:20 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119375 Aug 27 07:13:40 rhcp: you have a 16g or 32? Aug 27 07:13:45 32 Aug 27 07:13:48 obviously Aug 27 07:13:52 you did the mmc check Aug 27 07:13:52 :P Aug 27 07:14:32 just wonderin Aug 27 07:16:11 are you thinking to try that on this? Aug 27 07:16:45 try what? Aug 27 07:16:57 that link :P Aug 27 07:17:44 yeah Aug 27 07:17:52 lets do it Aug 27 07:18:00 if this works that should Aug 27 07:18:06 we have to modify adb Aug 27 07:18:20 unless craptain can give patches Aug 27 07:18:35 I need setenv working first though Aug 27 07:18:50 it does work Aug 27 07:18:53 we might have to compile a uboot script into a .uimage with the kernel Aug 27 07:18:54 i think you did it wrong Aug 27 07:18:59 it's an option in mkiage Aug 27 07:19:03 I"m not writing the env to flash Aug 27 07:19:09 I'm not bricking your tp Aug 27 07:19:23 true Aug 27 07:19:26 oh wow, this is for nc Aug 27 07:19:30 should work perfectly Aug 27 07:19:34 yea they are kinda the same Aug 27 07:19:39 in ways Aug 27 07:20:35 if the people must have cwm let them usbboot it :) Aug 27 07:20:40 we can make a tool to do that Aug 27 07:21:12 so what do we do here? should we make a new kernel? or will this one survice? Aug 27 07:21:32 oh, and metadr is not needed if you mess with lvm, I just think rwhitby is trying to keep it from breaking on people but I read the Alternative boot thing and it seems the trenchcoat uses the vg* commands itself Aug 27 07:21:46 this is palm's kernel, enough to run cwm Aug 27 07:21:55 we can patch in android stuff as we go Aug 27 07:21:56 ok so. we just run this shit as is? Aug 27 07:23:44 its in the dir Aug 27 07:23:47 on box Aug 27 07:24:31 k, fb0 is busted Aug 27 07:24:52 dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 no work Aug 27 07:24:55 tmzt_: yeah, you can resize stuff by hand if you know what you're doing. 99.9999% of people don't know what they are doing though ;) Aug 27 07:25:08 rwhitby: tmtz does Aug 27 07:25:10 :) Aug 27 07:25:22 indeed he does. I've worked with him for 2 years on this stuff. Aug 27 07:25:49 soon as i saw what it ran. i know who to msg Aug 27 07:25:49 :P Aug 27 07:26:00 knew Aug 27 07:26:41 rwhitby: know anyway to boot into a kernel loaded via mem:// after changing env in ram? Aug 27 07:27:27 it should just work Aug 27 07:27:38 set the env vars then run the boot command Aug 27 07:27:51 craptain: damn you... Aug 27 07:27:55 lol. i was about to. Aug 27 07:28:08 craptain: get ouddda my head. Aug 27 07:29:00 tmzt_: hard code the cmdline into a kernel shim Aug 27 07:29:12 heh we did Aug 27 07:29:44 tmzt_: ssh working? :) Aug 27 07:30:05 yeah was scping a file Aug 27 07:30:09 ah ok Aug 27 07:30:13 okay I'll just use force cmdline Aug 27 07:30:16 just making sure Aug 27 07:30:17 and rebuild the kenrel Aug 27 07:30:52 lets rock it Aug 27 07:31:38 wow interesting.. Aug 27 07:32:09 rhcp: boot into linux or bootie Aug 27 07:32:18 rhcp: bootie Aug 27 07:32:22 i'd presume. Aug 27 07:32:37 either i need /proc/cmdline Aug 27 07:32:41 and bootie constructs it Aug 27 07:32:59 patch the bootie Aug 27 07:33:07 i did Aug 27 07:33:09 isn't it in rom? Aug 27 07:33:17 nope. Aug 27 07:33:18 tmzt_: nslu2 has a kernel-shim package which makes overriding atags and cmdline trivial Aug 27 07:33:25 that's how some people bricked their touchpad Aug 27 07:33:28 isn't it be? Aug 27 07:33:28 they wrote over it by mistake. Aug 27 07:33:40 nslu2 Aug 27 07:33:55 don't patch the bootie in flash Aug 27 07:34:00 patch the bootie in ram Aug 27 07:36:58 why was I kicked? Aug 27 07:37:26 when? Aug 27 07:37:27 no idea my friend Aug 27 07:37:30 no one kicked you Aug 27 07:37:44 if it was like 12 hours ago or so it's because jbruchon made an oops Aug 27 07:37:57 [11:56] *** jbruchon kicked Firestar from the channel: Firestar Aug 27 07:38:07 Firestar: it was your feet. Aug 27 07:38:09 oh Aug 27 07:38:11 Firestar: they stink. Aug 27 07:38:14 that was a hella along time ago Aug 27 07:38:14 :o Aug 27 07:38:15 _shrugs_ Aug 27 07:38:16 dont worry about Aug 27 07:38:18 i took care of him Aug 27 07:38:23 :( Aug 27 07:38:26 you good now Aug 27 07:38:30 :D Aug 27 07:38:31 hence we all talking nice :) Aug 27 07:38:35 and no +m Aug 27 07:38:47 anyway tmzt_ back to work! :) Aug 27 07:38:52 * rhcp wants to screenshot Aug 27 07:39:01 ./clear Aug 27 07:39:07 tmzt_ eh. Aug 27 07:39:16 xda guys all over in here lmfao Aug 27 07:39:41 xda is a banned word here Aug 27 07:39:42 just want my firefox back. Aug 27 07:39:44 :P Aug 27 07:39:50 echo adx | rev Aug 27 07:39:51 2bad. Aug 27 07:40:03 what's wrong with your firefox? Aug 27 07:40:05 tmzt whats your invovement with the touchpad haxxxory Aug 27 07:40:11 tmzt_: was a joke man... Aug 27 07:40:14 unix suport Aug 27 07:40:25 hes my niglet Aug 27 07:40:31 involment Aug 27 07:40:42 lmfa0 Aug 27 07:41:17 wank. im really disgusted at the lack of programs for webos, its just ... so pitiful. Aug 27 07:41:24 wish someone would make a damned announcement about prime coming to vzw w/ the lte radio and the 1.5+ dualcore Aug 27 07:41:27 tegra Aug 27 07:41:28 i expected bad, but lacking even a rdp client? really? Aug 27 07:41:30 cause damn..... Aug 27 07:41:47 * rhcp knows when prime is coming Aug 27 07:41:54 hehehe Aug 27 07:42:36 jimmydoodle: part of it was Palm didn't support native development for a long time Aug 27 07:42:40 every day I check when the "shell shocker deal previews!!!" come into my inbox and hope a touchpad will show up, but nope Aug 27 07:42:44 we had to hack up plugins for graphical stuff Aug 27 07:42:56 then they released the 'game' sdk Aug 27 07:43:04 which uses a modified libsdl Aug 27 07:43:20 aw how ive missed your technical ranting that goes so far above my head. Aug 27 07:43:39 there are rdp clients that would work with that that haven't been ported, there's also an X server in preware so you can use any rdp client you want under X Aug 27 07:43:57 x server you say? Aug 27 07:44:01 tmzt_: less care herer more care in term Aug 27 07:44:01 that could be interesting Aug 27 07:44:02 :P Aug 27 07:45:02 rwhitby: can you set the load address for an initrd in the uimage and have it load that as well as kernel? Aug 27 07:45:08 * rwhitby just added a debian chroot which uses the xserver too ... Aug 27 07:45:08 I've never worked with uboot before Aug 27 07:45:46 tmzt_: yes, our bootie web page has details of how to do a multi-image for bootie Aug 27 07:46:19 rwhitby: multi images that have both the kernel and a ramdisk. Both the kernel and the ramdisk must be processed with mkimage first (kernel is processed by the build). It is important to pass -C none to mkimage when generating the ramdisk file, otherwise Bootie refuses to recognize it. Then generate the multi image like this: mkimage -A arm -T multi -C none -n 'test-multi-image' -d arch/arm/boot/uImage:/tmp/uRamdisk /tmp/uMulti Aug 27 07:46:25 eh Aug 27 07:46:28 okay Aug 27 07:46:28 ? Aug 27 07:46:36 good thing we documented all this stuff over the last 2 years so that later no-one reads them ;) Aug 27 07:46:40 it wasn't in 
 format so I didn't see the code sample
Aug 27 07:46:58  tmzt_: please fix the formatting
Aug 27 07:47:18  have to make a wiki account, hold on
Aug 27 07:53:12  and this is why routine wiki edits don't get done
Aug 27 07:55:39  sweet and it worked
Aug 27 08:01:59  tmzt_ which wiki?
Aug 27 08:02:30  fnj00-work: not ours
Aug 27 08:02:38  ahh k
Aug 27 08:02:53  no love for our wiki :/
Aug 27 08:03:03  soon
Aug 27 08:03:03  okay so we patch up uevent.rc
Aug 27 08:03:07  to handle lvm
Aug 27 08:03:10  lol
Aug 27 08:03:17  we also need lvmutils in the cwm
Aug 27 08:03:26  basically it's a cwm trenchcoat
Aug 27 08:06:23  fnj00-work: why duplicate info that's already in a publicly editable wiki ?
Aug 27 08:06:57  in case the public decides to edit and fk it up
Aug 27 08:07:09  that's what histories and curation are for
Aug 27 08:07:17  That's still a very good idea. :)
Aug 27 08:07:24  ^
Aug 27 08:07:38  in case the server dies in a fire then...
Aug 27 08:07:41  the cororollary is that you copy it and fk it up and people follow the wrong info
Aug 27 08:07:47  redundancy is always a good thing
Aug 27 08:07:49  lol I just got an email from newegg that has a scanner in it.. who the hell buys dedicated scanners anymore
Aug 27 08:08:05  fnj00-work: as long as both copies are kept up to date :)
Aug 27 08:13:20  root@Rhcptp:/# cat /proc/cmdline
Aug 27 08:13:20  root=/dev/mmcblk0p13 rootwait ro fb=0x7f600000 fbcon=disable console=ttyGS0 console=ttyS0,115200n8 nduid=da4256e76e746266099a56057def5b3b6ebc3bbc klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000  boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pvt
Aug 27 08:21:33  rwhitby: why would bootie not be seeing the initrd in a multiimage?
Aug 27 08:21:50  Contents: Image 0: 3336220 Bytes = 3258.03 kB = 3.18 MB Image 1: 1271888 Bytes = 1242.08 kB = 1.21 MB
Aug 27 08:23:06  tmzt_: dunno, what's different about your image compared to the installer image?
Aug 27 08:23:37  mkimage -A arm -T multi -C none -n 'cwm nook color' -d arch/arm/boot/uImage:initrd.img uImage
Aug 27 08:23:52  initrd.img is a cpio.gz
Aug 27 08:24:03  tmzt
Aug 27 08:24:11  can someone ban these whiners?
Aug 27 08:24:14  on the forum
Aug 27 08:24:20  which one
Aug 27 08:24:22  rootz?
Aug 27 08:24:29  rhcp: I have nothing to do with any of the forums
Aug 27 08:24:36  Raio:
Aug 27 08:24:37  yh cant believe people are still arguing about these pointless things
Aug 27 08:24:46  Raio: Link me all the spots
Aug 27 08:24:48  via pm
Aug 27 08:24:52  ill give them to a mod
Aug 27 08:24:55  i think everyone is sleeping
Aug 27 08:25:03  there are many things that can't be believed about the last 4 days
Aug 27 08:25:16  rwhitby: HP's are selling out everywhere
Aug 27 08:25:24  like that?
Aug 27 08:25:30 <13WAAPEP7> lol
Aug 27 08:25:35  lol
Aug 27 08:25:39 <13WAAPEP7> they are making more; but even that can't be believed
Aug 27 08:25:43  I love tmzt_ humor
Aug 27 08:26:10  anyway, could load address be wrong?
Aug 27 08:26:15  tmzt_: yeah, apparently it's a crap piece of hardware, but everyone seems to want to buy it ...
Aug 27 08:26:33  where is the makefile for this installer image
Aug 27 08:26:40  is that something you build?
Aug 27 08:26:49  maybe they are making them with old stock parts.. this isn't unheard of
Aug 27 08:26:50  no, the nova-installer image in the doctor
Aug 27 08:27:04  so metadoctor doesn't modify it?
Aug 27 08:27:06  you use palms
Aug 27 08:27:07  ?
Aug 27 08:27:31  correct
Aug 27 08:28:08  it boots and runs trenchcoat. nothing else it needs to do
Aug 27 08:28:15  is there a non lvm partition on the emmc?
Aug 27 08:28:22  yes, /boot
Aug 27 08:28:32  and it's safe to put a kernel there?
Aug 27 08:28:47  that's where the stock kernel is
Aug 27 08:28:52  okay
Aug 27 08:29:35  mmcp12?
Aug 27 08:30:19  look in topaz.xml in an unpacked doctor
Aug 27 08:30:59  getenv says it's mmc0p12
Aug 27 08:31:06  jsut wanted to confirm that's what you meant
Aug 27 08:31:28  /dev/mmcblk0p13: LABEL="/boot" UUID="2d54f1a3-945d-4320-9c0c-00576015682f" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3"
Aug 27 08:31:34  it's not 12
Aug 27 08:31:44  oh
Aug 27 08:31:52  blkid ftw
Aug 27 08:31:54  are you looking at topaz.xml ?
Aug 27 08:32:01  i just ran blkid
Aug 27 08:32:05  dono about tmzt_
Aug 27 08:32:21  where do I find topaz.xml? I don't have any palm downloads
Aug 27 08:32:23  be aware it will probably change if they release the 3G one
Aug 27 08:32:32  tmzt_: unpacked webOS Doctor
Aug 27 08:32:51  rwhitby: thanks for the help btw
Aug 27 08:33:18  is uboot/bootie 0 indexed or something?
Aug 27 08:33:26  hmm, so it's trying to mmap the framebuffer, and that's what's failing i think
Aug 27 08:33:30  because getenv says mmc0p12 and linux says mmc0p13
Aug 27 08:33:37  E/msm8660.gralloc(  130): alloc mmap(fd=37, size=1572864, prot=3) failed (Try again)
Aug 27 08:33:56  going to sleep, guys you should take a break and sleep too
Aug 27 08:33:57  :p
Aug 27 08:33:59  interesting
Aug 27 08:34:03  craptain
Aug 27 08:34:10  i want to sleep. but too excited atm
Aug 27 08:34:11  :P
Aug 27 08:34:15  lol
Aug 27 08:34:15  hehe
Aug 27 08:34:34  how do we sftp?
Aug 27 08:34:40  second
Aug 27 08:34:40  the hp stuff specifies a bigger framebuffer
Aug 27 08:35:01  craptain: I think webos is using kgsl2d only
Aug 27 08:35:04  and not fbdev
Aug 27 08:35:11  what are you trying to run?
Aug 27 08:35:16  tmzt_: term
Aug 27 08:35:16  android
Aug 27 08:35:20  also could be wrong, or have it backwards
Aug 27 08:35:26  the /dev/graphics/fb0 works
Aug 27 08:35:40  like i can dd /dev/urandom to it and see junk
Aug 27 08:36:00  bigger than?
Aug 27 08:36:04  it's frame swapped
Aug 27 08:36:05  there's also an fb1
Aug 27 08:36:08  exaclty like android
Aug 27 08:36:12  that's video overlay
Aug 27 08:36:15  I wouldn't touch it
Aug 27 08:36:33  yea, the android kernel is big enough for 2 frames, the webos is big enough for three
Aug 27 08:36:45  ie, the fb from bootie is big enough for three
Aug 27 08:42:20  sure
Aug 27 08:42:29  but that shouldn't matter, it should ignore the last frame
Aug 27 08:42:43  the problem is you're msm_pe probably is hardcoded to 3
Aug 27 08:44:05  rwhitby: so you don't have an initrd that boots with boot mem:// that has precomd?
Aug 27 08:44:32  tenderloin:
Aug 27 08:44:36  Load Address: 0x40208000
Aug 27 08:44:36  Entry Point:  0x40208000
Aug 27 08:49:58  tmzt_: no, we have no need for initrd's, since we just use bootie for recovery
Aug 27 08:51:08  isn't trenchcoat an initrd?
Aug 27 08:51:18  or whatever contains it
Aug 27 08:51:19  installer
Aug 27 08:51:23  kernel+initrd
Aug 27 08:52:46  tmzt_: see pm
Aug 27 08:54:49  tmzt_: nova-installer uImage is a kernel and initramfs containing trenchcoat
Aug 27 08:58:09  loading file '/boot/uImage-test1' to address 0x41000000
Aug 27 08:58:09  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000000
Aug 27 08:58:09  section len 3336220
Aug 27 08:58:09  section len 1271888
Aug 27 08:58:09  section len 0
Aug 27 08:58:11  section_start 0x4100004c
Aug 27 08:58:14  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x4100004c
Aug 27 08:58:17  section_start 0x4100004c
Aug 27 08:58:19  section_start 0x4132e868
Aug 27 08:58:22  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x4132e868
Aug 27 08:58:24  section_start 0x4132e868
Aug 27 08:58:27  section_start 0x414650b8
Aug 27 09:04:55  i'd love to stay. but damn... been up 24hrs.
Aug 27 09:05:18  craptain: tmzt_ rwhitby rhcp nice work
Aug 27 09:05:20  nite
Aug 27 09:05:34  i'll dig through logs tomorrow for status updates lol...
Aug 27 09:05:36  hopefully we have something nice
Aug 27 09:05:42  soon
Aug 27 09:05:46  before i shit myself
Aug 27 09:05:47  lol
Aug 27 09:06:42  lolwut
Aug 27 09:07:28  tmzt_: dont fall asleep at the keyboard
Aug 27 09:07:29  :P
Aug 27 09:07:36  im about to tbh
Aug 27 09:07:44  hi
Aug 27 09:07:50  hi
Aug 27 09:10:06  ok guys
Aug 27 09:10:08  sleep for me
Aug 27 09:10:24  nite all
Aug 27 09:10:31  we may have something cool tommrow :)
Aug 27 09:10:37  hopefully not a brick
Aug 27 09:13:48  (:
Aug 27 09:14:03  >>
Aug 27 09:29:25  helloooooooo
Aug 27 09:44:36  .
Aug 27 09:47:29  hi
Aug 27 09:47:47  oh hai
Aug 27 09:47:53  helloooo
Aug 27 09:48:23  whats the last status of the project? there is nothing in the topic :D
Aug 27 09:48:32  what have i missed out on since yesterday?
Aug 27 09:51:20  http://touchdroid.isitreadyyet.com
Aug 27 09:52:43  ?
Aug 27 09:53:02  fnj00-work i didnt ask like "is it ready", i asked the status :D
Aug 27 09:54:07  :P
Aug 27 09:54:54   lol
Aug 27 09:55:15  -+
Aug 27 09:55:45  thats better, fail no sleep
Aug 27 09:56:14  that makes more sense
Aug 27 09:57:34  couldnt get help on android-root. can i ask it here?
Aug 27 09:57:42  my question
Aug 27 09:57:51  sure
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Aug 27 09:58:26  lol
Aug 27 09:58:29  my keyboard got stuck
Aug 27 09:58:31  sorry guys
Aug 27 09:58:40  bullshit
Aug 27 09:58:40  lol
Aug 27 09:59:53  so... i have to test ubuntu chroot more... xfce, lxde and flash i get to work... next try will be ubuntu-netbook
Aug 27 09:59:56  i have cm7, but i miss swype keyboard from my old, stock rom. can it be backed up with titanium as an app and installed into cm7?
Aug 27 10:01:57  so is ubuntu good on th touchpad
Aug 27 10:02:01  •uabn93• ... no clue
Aug 27 10:02:31  •Sorrowuk• depends on your definition of 'good'
Aug 27 10:02:32  no ubuntu is not good touchpad
Aug 27 10:02:41  ill try it out and see if it works
Aug 27 10:02:59  what the hell kind of tab complete is that
Aug 27 10:03:00  lol
Aug 27 10:03:02  gonna take a while, though -__-
Aug 27 10:03:03  Sorrowuk its okay, but native ubuntu would be nicer
Aug 27 10:03:09  someone said they got ubuntu to run natively  . Not chroot
Aug 27 10:03:16  who?
Aug 27 10:03:39  jc .. someone lol
Aug 27 10:03:40  •acfrazier• wat
Aug 27 10:03:56  it breaks my xchat lol
Aug 27 10:04:04  i need to find this one :D
Aug 27 10:04:15  xchat is teh sux
Aug 27 10:04:17  invision was a good mod maybe in 2002
Aug 27 10:04:22  now? lol
Aug 27 10:04:24  w/e
Aug 27 10:04:33  so when you do a rom backup, it can be restored with all settings intact? like wifi setting, apps, etc.
Aug 27 10:04:51  -<[(a)(c)(f)(r)(a)(z)(i)(e)(r)]>- shits so cash
Aug 27 10:05:24  haha nice url :)
Aug 27 10:06:16  Im actually coding a free sitebuilder around that domain, you get a free blahblah.isitreadyyet.info and I get adword monies....win win
Aug 27 10:06:54  User/Pass/subdomain/(yes/no) form
Aug 27 10:08:00  that's the last noob Q ill ask
Aug 27 10:08:16  ^^
Aug 27 10:08:24  video working
Aug 27 10:08:30  but very crappy
Aug 27 10:08:41  or just an *.blabla alis with a php script that takes what's before '.isit..'
Aug 27 10:08:42  i deleted all hardware accel stuff
Aug 27 10:09:01  you guys have likely already gathered this info... but I figured I would share just in case
Aug 27 10:09:02  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/HP_TP_Key_mapping
Aug 27 10:09:12  just mapped out /dev/input/event*
Aug 27 10:09:45  granted they may be different under an android kernel, but it could still be a good reference nonetheless
Aug 27 10:11:21  craptain you can run android?!
Aug 27 10:12:10  craptain, likely lacking proper gfx drivers?
Aug 27 10:12:38  sdfa
Aug 27 10:12:54  whats going on
Aug 27 10:13:09  did someone get a proper dump yet
Aug 27 10:14:50  any chance the touchpad is equipped with MHL?
Aug 27 10:18:34  kn_, what exactly are you guys trying to dump?
Aug 27 10:41:52  does increasing the ext3fs partition help to speed up ubuntu chroot?
Aug 27 10:45:47  cryptk, i think they are talking about dumping the Pre installed android T
Aug 27 10:45:49  TP
Aug 27 10:47:12  webos doctor is crap
Aug 27 10:47:19  i trashed the LVM
Aug 27 10:47:30  and it can't recovery
Aug 27 10:47:35 * Jack87 blames user error
Aug 27 10:47:37  *recover
Aug 27 10:47:56  i can fix it, but it's a bitch
Aug 27 10:48:02  craptain: what's the issue ?
Aug 27 10:48:07  :)
Aug 27 10:48:21  i trashed mmcblk0p14
Aug 27 10:48:28  yes but i mean, what does your tab do ?
Aug 27 10:48:30  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Memboot
Aug 27 10:48:38  there were some user with bricket TP because of webos doctor
Aug 27 10:48:43  craptain, i dunno that might help
Aug 27 10:48:51  yea, i can boot it
Aug 27 10:48:59  oh you lucky
Aug 27 10:49:05  i trashed something but for me, i got nothing
Aug 27 10:49:06  lol
Aug 27 10:49:19  k1l, who "bricked" their TPs? ill give em $10 for em
Aug 27 10:49:28 * Flemmard <<
Aug 27 10:49:38  even mbudden from this channel
Aug 27 10:49:49  i know how to put it in bootrom mode now
Aug 27 10:49:52  vol down
Aug 27 10:49:54  Hi
Aug 27 10:49:56  oh ?
Aug 27 10:50:03  i think they tried to update through doctor and that stopped at 12%
Aug 27 10:50:12  k1l, ill gladly buy the devices off them :)
Aug 27 10:50:17  hm I have seen something about that for recovering
Aug 27 10:50:22  dunno if it applies to the touchpad
Aug 27 10:50:22  craptain: can you develop a bit ? :)
Aug 27 10:50:23  k1l, can i have yours?
Aug 27 10:50:33  Jack87: mine is not bricket :)
Aug 27 10:50:40  lol
Aug 27 10:50:47  you cant really brick it
Aug 27 10:51:42  i don't think you can
Aug 27 10:51:51  but we don't know how to talk to the bootrom
Aug 27 10:51:52  because for my part i got a only-blackscreen thing
Aug 27 10:52:08  craptain, shh some people dont know that. we might get our hands on some cheap TPs :)
Aug 27 10:52:17  :)
Aug 27 10:52:31  craptain, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Memboot
Aug 27 10:53:08  you know bootrom protocol?
Aug 27 10:53:15  Memboot isn't the bootrom
Aug 27 10:53:15 * Jack87 thinks people forget #webos-internals has been working with webos for years
Aug 27 10:53:22  Memboot is bootie
Aug 27 10:53:51  bootrom is not bootie
Aug 27 10:54:00  craptain, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
Aug 27 10:54:09  no that won't work
Aug 27 10:54:10  OMAP devices only
Aug 27 10:54:13  that's for OMAP
Aug 27 10:54:23  craptain, what stage is the device at?
Aug 27 10:54:25  ie. is doctor failing
Aug 27 10:54:26  craptain, oh right this is qualcome
Aug 27 10:54:26  Jack87: bootrom is MSM specific
Aug 27 10:54:30  or is it totally b0rked
Aug 27 10:54:32  lame i hate that hp did that
Aug 27 10:54:37  the LVM is trashed
Aug 27 10:54:45  ok
Aug 27 10:54:49  recovery boots?
Aug 27 10:54:53  don't need LVM for bootie recovery
Aug 27 10:55:06  craptain: if you manage to solve this, i'll be interested :p
Aug 27 10:55:11  Jack87: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/294577-bricked-touchpad-2.html#post3106945
Aug 27 10:55:14  no, but to install webos you do
Aug 27 10:55:15  craptain, rwhitby is your man for this I think
Aug 27 10:55:21  it isn't by any means bricked
Aug 27 10:55:32  Pulser: craptain already knows all about bootie recovery
Aug 27 10:55:34  i can just restore the image from backup i made
Aug 27 10:55:36  ok
Aug 27 10:55:37  I see
Aug 27 10:55:45  wasn't aware
Aug 27 10:55:52  is there any "pre-messing around" stuff I should do
Aug 27 10:55:53  assuming he hasn't blown away bootie yet
Aug 27 10:55:54  but its a bitch that webos doctor can't do it
Aug 27 10:55:58  before I start to novacom things?
Aug 27 10:56:10  rwhitby pm?
Aug 27 10:56:10  or is that fairly safe just to boot stuff?
Aug 27 10:56:18  sure
Aug 27 10:56:24  Hi Protekk
Aug 27 10:56:36  k1l, sad story
Aug 27 10:57:02  craptain: does is have something to do with QHSUSB_DLOAD thing ?
Aug 27 10:57:16  QHSUSB_DLOAD is the bootrom
Aug 27 10:57:26  android isn't booting on my device anymore though
Aug 27 10:57:29  yeah t's what i thought
Aug 27 10:57:30  i think it's the audio fw
Aug 27 10:57:37  so i'm restoring webos
Aug 27 10:57:39  but craptain, can we do something with that ?
Aug 27 10:57:46  because i can only get this on my TP now
Aug 27 10:57:47  eh
Aug 27 10:57:55  go back in time
Aug 27 10:57:56   :P
Aug 27 10:58:02  what? lol
Aug 27 10:58:11  to before you bricked
Aug 27 10:58:22  hehe
Aug 27 10:58:24  yeah
Aug 27 10:58:24  howd you brick it?
Aug 27 10:58:31  i added a partition *after* lvm one
Aug 27 10:58:37  (with topaz.xml)
Aug 27 10:58:43  err
Aug 27 10:59:08  whats up wulfegang
Aug 27 10:59:24  added where?
Aug 27 10:59:34  just afer lvm defintion
Aug 27 10:59:34  Nuffin, just trying a new rom on my phone
Aug 27 10:59:59   /join #puredev RgFz$910!
Aug 27 11:00:21  craptain: after that:
Aug 27 11:00:21  		 
Aug 27 11:00:26  i added a new 
Aug 27 11:00:28  yay fixed!
Aug 27 11:00:34  added where?
Aug 27 11:00:39  topaz.xml
Aug 27 11:00:43  just after the line i pasted
Aug 27 11:00:47  which is where?
Aug 27 11:01:25  topaz.xml is in the webOS directory in an unpacked webOS Doctor
Aug 27 11:01:27  what partition is topaz.xml on?
Aug 27 11:01:35  craptain: in webos doctor
Aug 27 11:01:53  oh, i see
Aug 27 11:03:02  and so the only thing i can see from my tb is the qhsusb_dload thing on comp and that's all
Aug 27 11:03:31  sucks bro
Aug 27 11:03:34  yes
Aug 27 11:03:40  they were no errors during recovery etc
Aug 27 11:03:47  i'll give you $10 for it
Aug 27 11:03:49  and then, reboot, bam
Aug 27 11:03:50  haha
Aug 27 11:03:52  no
Aug 27 11:03:59  hmm staples think I am a business
Aug 27 11:04:04  I now haev a "business account" with them =D
Aug 27 11:04:05  $7 and half a papa johns pizza
Aug 27 11:04:11  final offer
Aug 27 11:04:26  lol
Aug 27 11:06:54  craptain, we have already offered him $50 for it
Aug 27 11:07:00  you're at least gonna have to beat that
Aug 27 11:07:07  whole pizza?
Aug 27 11:07:16  ROFL
Aug 27 11:07:20  depends on flavour
Aug 27 11:07:20  and if he sells it to us, at least he knows it will be put to good use
Aug 27 11:07:38  i will use it to smack small insects
Aug 27 11:08:00  and as a prop in rants about the ipad being number one
Aug 27 11:09:06  well thats my bedtime
Aug 27 11:09:17  tomorrow maybe fix video
Aug 27 11:09:41  I wish more folks who think the ipad is number one would brick their new touchpads.
Aug 27 11:09:45   bedtime? its 1pm :D
Aug 27 11:10:21  rwhitby, if you think about it... with the massive influx of people hacking on the TP... the number of bricked ones is extremely low
Aug 27 11:10:32  I have heard of two (including Flemmard)
Aug 27 11:10:46  and the other one I am pretty sure was recovered with a doctor, so it wasn't really bricked
Aug 27 11:10:48  cryptk: I've heard of five so far
Aug 27 11:10:58  ahh, well you have been more "in the loop" than me
Aug 27 11:11:11  and talked to one of the users who's device is likely in MSM download mode
Aug 27 11:11:23  since it still enumerates on USB but with a different ID
Aug 27 11:11:32  but even at 5... it is surprisingly low given the number of people that are pushing every last sysfs and proc and binary they can find on it
Aug 27 11:11:53  very few people have enough clue to actually flash something different on it
Aug 27 11:11:53  rwhitby: hmm .. msm download mode ?
Aug 27 11:12:17  of all the teams "working" on it so far, I've counted about 5 people total who know how to do anything with it
Aug 27 11:12:49  I'm sure all the others are just waiting for devices
Aug 27 11:12:58  i found a driver
Aug 27 11:13:05  to qhsblabla_dload
Aug 27 11:13:09  that creates a serial port ..
Aug 27 11:13:32  Flemmard: mbudden is your man then
Aug 27 11:14:25  mbudden ?
Aug 27 11:14:31  http://i.imgur.com/zuEhH.png
Aug 27 11:14:51  Is that good?
Aug 27 11:15:15  for me it's not palm inc
Aug 27 11:15:17  lol
Aug 27 11:17:47  OH WOW
Aug 27 11:18:03  O.o
Aug 27 11:18:17  if it gets bricked webos internals can buy it from ya and salt it for the masses :)
Aug 27 11:23:45  Hello everyone... I'll cut straight to the important bit
Aug 27 11:24:10  As an interim measure, is it not possible to run a chrooted build of Android within WebOS?
Aug 27 11:24:36  something tells me it's not that simple or it'd be done by now
Aug 27 11:24:37  With a custom WebOS kernel that has the modules required for Android?
Aug 27 11:24:45  That's my thinking as well
Aug 27 11:25:07  I finally got my Touchpad yesterday and i'm itching to help get Android on it
Aug 27 11:25:15  Grats
Aug 27 11:25:40  does anyone know what the latest "dev" kernel is?
Aug 27 11:25:45  But really though, has absolutely no one attempted a chrooted Android yet?
Aug 27 11:25:53  are we still on webos kernels with android patches applied?
Aug 27 11:26:26  Yes, i'd say you wouldn't be able to get the chroot working unless you had the android patches built in to the kernel
Aug 27 11:26:33  abc27, yeah
Aug 27 11:26:36  what I am unsure of
Aug 27 11:26:41  is if said kernel is available
Aug 27 11:26:55  Oh well of course it's not available... not yet at least
Aug 27 11:27:33  abc27: I've not had anyone approach me asking how we build our WebOS Internals custom kernels, or asking to add patches to them.
Aug 27 11:27:59  abc27: seems there's a significant amount of NIH going around
Aug 27 11:28:08  Are people not allowed to ask? Not being argumentative or accusing here, just a peaceable question
Aug 27 11:28:28  abc27: ask what?
Aug 27 11:28:37  people are allowed to ask whatever they want typically
Aug 27 11:28:47  Well asking to add patches to the WebOS kernel
Aug 27 11:29:15  abc27: I get the feeling no-one working on this stuff has any desire to work with any other people on anything
Aug 27 11:29:25  Ah, for the bounty?
Aug 27 11:29:34  money changes everything
Aug 27 11:29:55  we've been providing information whenever anyone reasonable asks questions. we're switzerland.
Aug 27 11:30:03  That's BS, whoever thought raising a bounty for it is an idiot.
Aug 27 11:30:09  rwhitby, I think you are right
Aug 27 11:30:22  I've got no intention of going near any bounty
Aug 27 11:30:25  and wish it hadn't been put up
Aug 27 11:30:29  as it might put an end to this nonsense
Aug 27 11:30:50  there are a few people who've been discussing things in #webos-internals away from all the drama, and I expect they will be the first to do anything significant
Aug 27 11:31:14  And they're not bounty hunters, are they?
Aug 27 11:31:18  since they are using the tried and true open source methodology of building on other's work respectfully
Aug 27 11:31:49  Well then... why don't we all join them? Or are you guys working independently?
Aug 27 11:31:59  abc27: the ones who I've been talking to have long histories of porting stuff to embedded devices.
Aug 27 11:32:31  So, they don't need help or what?
Aug 27 11:32:44  abc27: well, there are at least three publicly warring development teams, and another 3 non-public ones that I know of
Aug 27 11:32:55  I know that CM are quietly working away
Aug 27 11:32:59  yep
Aug 27 11:33:02  but they don't do "omg omg get me attention"
Aug 27 11:33:02  and nook devs
Aug 27 11:33:05  yeah
Aug 27 11:33:08  I know of those 2
Aug 27 11:33:09  :)
Aug 27 11:33:20  and a guy at google has ubuntu running natively
Aug 27 11:33:20  ffs, if they all just joined forces instead of glory seeking we'd have much more progress than we do at present
Aug 27 11:33:30  abc27: yup
Aug 27 11:33:32  With X11?
Aug 27 11:33:38  abc27: yup
Aug 27 11:33:46  EXACTLY
Aug 27 11:33:48  rwhitby any chance of running android apps inside of webos?
Aug 27 11:33:49  That's interesting, do you have a link?
Aug 27 11:33:50  abc27, you are spot on here
Aug 27 11:33:58  <abc27> ffs, if they all just joined forces instead of glory seeking we'd have much more progress than we do at present
Aug 27 11:34:03  +1000000
Aug 27 11:34:05  abc27: he's one of the ones who is avoiding the public drama
Aug 27 11:34:18  wth
Aug 27 11:34:21  must get my google contact on it :)
Aug 27 11:34:25  anyone seriously doing stuff is hiding because of all the crap of the last week
Aug 27 11:34:29  why code doesnt use CONFIG_ things that are in my defconfig
Aug 27 11:34:30  yes
Aug 27 11:34:35  rwhitby, I don't blame them
Aug 27 11:34:42  android on touchpad is simply full of poisonous people
Aug 27 11:34:44  I have conversations arranged with some of them
Aug 27 11:34:50  let me PM ya a sec
Aug 27 11:34:52  I guess it makes sense. There are far too many "OMG NEED ANDROID NOW WILL PAY $500000" people ruining things
Aug 27 11:34:54  rwest, agreed
Aug 27 11:34:55  rwhitby: that is the negative story of a 99$ giveaway.
Aug 27 11:35:02  k1l: yep
Aug 27 11:35:03  s/rwest/rwhitby/
Aug 27 11:36:04  IMO (not that it matters), people should just enjoy webOS for now since it is a great OS and be patient. But this is the intertubes and I know that will never happen.
Aug 27 11:36:26  yep
Aug 27 11:36:26  I have another idea. Instead of a chrooted Android build, how about a network boot from the Touchpad?
Aug 27 11:36:29  the fact that there are three public android on touchpad IRC channels, and each of them have bans in place for the founders of the other channels is pretty telling.
Aug 27 11:36:43  That's sad rwhitby
Aug 27 11:36:44  rwhitby, lol
Aug 27 11:36:46  very sad
Aug 27 11:36:48  in fact
Aug 27 11:36:50  pathetic
Aug 27 11:36:50  not sad
Aug 27 11:37:00  That makes my soul hurt
Aug 27 11:37:07  I.e. we boot an Android image stored on ubuntu using NFS and a USB Connection
Aug 27 11:37:25  and I think each of the channel founders has publicly accused each of the others of deception and fraud in some way
Aug 27 11:37:25  Less risky for the moment than messing with flash
Aug 27 11:37:35 * Wulfegang sighs
Aug 27 11:37:39  abc27, that is very complex
Aug 27 11:37:50  and there are safer ways of doing it
Aug 27 11:37:54  most of the channels have been through two or three "coups"
Aug 27 11:38:00  I'll just be in the corner testing the 14 new roms I can flash to my phone while you smart people do the awesome work.
Aug 27 11:38:01  abc27, you could do that using novacom perhaps... I know someone was thinking about putting rootfs into the ramdisk
Aug 27 11:38:38  1) you can boot kernel and initramfs from memory using novacom
Aug 27 11:38:49  Actually, googling that it looks as if someone has done that
Aug 27 11:38:52  The whole NFS boot thing
Aug 27 11:38:57  Except for the Palm Pre
Aug 27 11:39:09  2) you can reduce the size of the media lvm partition and add another ext3 partition and pivot into that
Aug 27 11:39:13  http://code.google.com/p/android-on-pre/wiki/TryAndroidNowForEnglish
Aug 27 11:39:24  someone has an idea why my Makefiles in kernel act like they doest see the config made in defconfig ?
Aug 27 11:39:34  3) you can add another kernel and init script into the existing /boot and pivot into that like the SHR guys do when they dual-boot the Pre
Aug 27 11:39:45  We should convince the people offering the bounty to change it to the bounty goes to the charity of the dev's choice.  End the greed.
Aug 27 11:40:08  botero_, +1
Aug 27 11:40:12  in fact...
Aug 27 11:40:17  I wonder...
Aug 27 11:40:21  let me see if he's online
Aug 27 11:40:25  they should just donate the bounty to http://donate.webos-internals.org/ and be done with it ;)
Aug 27 11:40:44  option #2 is currently being used by a couple of people porting another linux distro to the TP
Aug 27 11:40:52  i posted that in the bounty thread on xda.  anyone who supports the idea, please post there as well.
Aug 27 11:41:09  botero_, I will try find the guys offering it
Aug 27 11:41:15  Thank you
Aug 27 12:01:54 * cypis|away is now away - Reason : dinner
Aug 27 12:12:01 * cypis is no longer away : Gone for 10 minutes 6 seconds
Aug 27 12:12:12  wb
Aug 27 12:57:26  any good news?
Aug 27 13:29:10  Question for the Physics pros..
Aug 27 13:29:15  Would a house outlet have enough power to kill a mice ?
Aug 27 13:30:04  lol
Aug 27 13:30:09  if it can hurt you
Aug 27 13:30:12  it will hurt a mouse
Aug 27 13:30:16  ok
Aug 27 13:30:17  I caught one today, been hunting this bastard for 3 months!. it has stressed me out big time & I want to kill it inhumanely.
Aug 27 13:30:31  still stuck to the glue mat
Aug 27 13:30:36  foot head dead
Aug 27 13:31:24  what's the status with the touchdriod ?
Aug 27 13:31:34  my brand new 2 are still stilling ere..
Aug 27 13:35:41  hmm not good reports on BB getting any that were on that restock list
Aug 27 13:46:49  ok
Aug 27 13:46:52  I received 2
Aug 27 13:47:02  3 others got cancelled :( #haters gon hate
Aug 27 13:58:05  Morning
Aug 27 14:00:28  how reliable is thebestbuy inventory checker=
Aug 27 14:01:35  Morning
Aug 27 14:01:46  Is there anyway to get a 3G usb stick on this
Aug 27 14:01:58  maybe with a host adapter
Aug 27 14:02:27  thought it lacked host
Aug 27 14:02:38  better bet would be wifi ap a 3g phone to it
Aug 27 14:02:51  may not be optimal
Aug 27 14:02:58  but the options are limited.
Aug 27 14:12:07  jimmydoodle
Aug 27 14:12:08  not very
Aug 27 14:12:18  it hasn't been right too often lately lol
Aug 27 14:12:28  a lot of stores show negative numbers for the touchpad
Aug 27 14:12:39  they're getting more touchpads in stock, but it isn't showing in the system
Aug 27 14:13:58  im debating if its worth the risk
Aug 27 14:13:58  lmfao
Aug 27 14:14:15  BB getting more today?
Aug 27 14:14:45  xust-home where do you see the negative numbers
Aug 27 14:15:14  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218303031697&sourceType=product&skuId=2842056&productId=1218303031697&itemId=1557736&contract_desc=2+YEARS+NEW&pageMode=searchmode&AID=10597222&PID=5142027&SID=skim10361X688391Xeaac36a7d4b2a6dc11378f537d02cb3c&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2Folstemplatemapper.jsp%3Fid%3Dpcat17006%26type%3Dpage%26sourceId%3D1218303031697%26sourceType%3Dpro
Aug 27 14:15:18  i lol'd
Aug 27 14:15:25  inventory checker
Aug 27 14:15:42  nearly every store in this district
Aug 27 14:17:58  Aug 27, 2011 6:16 AM
Aug 27 14:17:58  On FedEx vehicle for delivery
Aug 27 14:17:58  PHOENIX, AZ
Aug 27 14:18:51  ./cookie
Aug 27 14:25:59  To install preware or not to install preware
Aug 27 14:26:10  def install preware..
Aug 27 14:26:13  why wouldnt you install preware
Aug 27 14:26:14  lol
Aug 27 14:26:39  why no preware?
Aug 27 14:26:44  its the best app for webos :D
Aug 27 14:27:02  ok
Aug 27 14:27:08  sirana++
Aug 27 14:27:10  will install on 1st one first & see
Aug 27 14:27:15  2nd one still wraped
Aug 27 14:27:23  you cant make it faster without preware installed
Aug 27 14:27:27  ok
Aug 27 14:27:35  thats where all the neccessary patches are etc
Aug 27 14:30:21  ok leme fire this baby up
Aug 27 14:30:41  any1 managed to get silverlight working ?
Aug 27 14:31:26  got the preware install guide link ?
Aug 27 14:33:56  yeah where is the youtube video for installing preware with patches
Aug 27 14:34:28  google has it
Aug 27 14:34:36  ok
Aug 27 14:34:42  plugged to usb now
Aug 27 14:34:43  installing preware is easier than rooting an android phone
Aug 27 14:34:44  sry i forgot this is a touchpad channel
Aug 27 14:34:54  oh wait...
Aug 27 14:34:55  this is touchdroid, not touchpad
Aug 27 14:35:12  touch deez nuts
Aug 27 14:35:18  ..
Aug 27 14:35:19  about spank them =x
Aug 27 14:35:37  i mean seriously
Aug 27 14:35:46  google touchpad preware install
Aug 27 14:35:58  if you want, i'll hold your hand
Aug 27 14:36:02  it can get scary
Aug 27 14:36:08  i know, i went through it myself on my own
Aug 27 14:37:51  lol
Aug 27 14:40:09  my ass puckered so hard when i read "this will void your warranty!!!"
Aug 27 14:41:19  ok developer mode is turned on nhat
Aug 27 14:41:40  whats everyones favorite game?
Aug 27 14:41:52  the one i'm playing right now
Aug 27 14:42:22  ff tactics
Aug 27 14:42:24  mmm
Aug 27 14:42:43  nhat: i dont see obsessive masturbation in the app catalog
Aug 27 14:42:45  where is it
Aug 27 14:44:11  tube8.com
Aug 27 14:44:20  youporn works sometimes
Aug 27 14:44:27  lol
Aug 27 14:44:29  pinklab.com is the best
Aug 27 14:44:34  set as a favorite
Aug 27 14:44:38  and it's just like an app
Aug 27 14:44:44  err on the launcher
Aug 27 14:44:46  yeah
Aug 27 14:44:51  ok i gotta go play golf in this hurricane
Aug 27 14:44:55  i am excite
Aug 27 14:49:51  hey nhat
Aug 27 14:50:12  Says I don't have novacom or something installed
Aug 27 14:51:42  Defcom: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html
Aug 27 14:52:06  which increase TP volume works best
Aug 27 14:52:09  lite or full
Aug 27 14:52:29  ok
Aug 27 14:53:01  Defcom: that is a step by step howto. its very detailed with alot of information. read it follow step by step for the parts you want to to with your TP
Aug 27 14:54:23  ok
Aug 27 15:04:51  Is there a page with more info on the touchdroid project, (a little more verbose than a page with 'NO' would be a bit more helpful)
Aug 27 15:04:58  'NO'
Aug 27 15:04:59  xD
Aug 27 15:05:02  (sorry)
Aug 27 15:05:47  D:
Aug 27 15:07:02  hehe
Aug 27 15:07:16  "It's done when it's done"
Aug 27 15:07:16  _:D
Aug 27 15:08:17  I'd just like to know what sort of stage it's at now, what holding back, etc
Aug 27 15:09:19  Ximon…there's lots of things than can delay the release
Aug 27 15:09:32  and porting Android to an entirely new device is not a piece of cake
Aug 27 15:09:32  a
Aug 27 15:09:52  wtf man. why is there no clear instructions to installing Preware
Aug 27 15:10:03  screw this shit. am out
Aug 27 15:10:17  Yes, I understand, but there seems to be absolutely no information about it.
Aug 27 15:14:34  hm
Aug 27 15:15:10  This channel changes more than a transvestite hooker.
Aug 27 15:35:40  http://www.webosbuzz.com/hp-touchpad-hd-apps/
Aug 27 15:41:12  so what's the status on the port? I was drinking so I'm not sure but I think I may have read someone had ABD working?
Aug 27 15:41:54  adb works in webos at least
Aug 27 15:44:30  out of curiosity what's it take to get adb functional? kernel changes?
Aug 27 15:45:00  kernel stuff
Aug 27 15:45:04  I'm a hardware engineer, my software and embedded background is lacking
Aug 27 15:49:56  sup guys
Aug 27 15:56:00  howdy rhcp
Aug 27 15:57:11  how do i delete profiles in govnah
Aug 27 15:57:36  morn
Aug 27 15:59:20 * rhcp waits on tmzt_ :)
Aug 27 16:00:15  rhcp how goes the efforts? I hear adb may be working?
Aug 27 16:01:59  when tmtz gets back. we may see more then just adb
Aug 27 16:02:04  im not going to say anything
Aug 27 16:02:06  bootie is funny
Aug 27 16:02:26  special thanks to rwhitby
Aug 27 16:03:26  where lives tmtz? or which timezone, that i can think about when he is here ;)
Aug 27 16:03:36  1pm he will join me
Aug 27 16:03:44  est
Aug 27 16:03:44  hmm
Aug 27 16:03:51  we have 6pm here :P
Aug 27 16:04:32  EST = 12am now?
Aug 27 16:04:50  yes
Aug 27 16:04:50  12pm
Aug 27 16:04:51  :)
Aug 27 16:04:53  ah ok
Aug 27 16:04:56  am is night
Aug 27 16:04:57  :P
Aug 27 16:05:00  in germany we have no pm/am
Aug 27 16:05:01  :D
Aug 27 16:05:03  thx
Aug 27 16:05:04  ah
Aug 27 16:05:13  5pm zulu?
Aug 27 16:05:15  sorry not aware :)
Aug 27 16:05:23  we have a 24 hours clock! :D
Aug 27 16:05:25  i dont even know my GMT offset
Aug 27 16:05:39  GMT-5 i think...
Aug 27 16:05:43  we have GMT+1
Aug 27 16:05:47  central is -6
Aug 27 16:06:00  so est should be -5
Aug 27 16:06:02  GMT is 5PM now
Aug 27 16:06:29  GMT is actually 4PM
Aug 27 16:06:33  BST is 5PM
Aug 27 16:06:47  CET is GMT+2 during summer
Aug 27 16:06:53  ah
Aug 27 16:07:01  i forgot this fucking sommer/wintertime
Aug 27 16:07:05  yeah confusing
Aug 27 16:07:16  not only confusing... it sucks
Aug 27 16:07:20  i could never figure out the GMT shit
Aug 27 16:07:21  tbh
Aug 27 16:08:17  i only know that i have 6pm, the englands have 5pm .... and rhcp has 12am :D
Aug 27 16:08:44  yeah and CST is -5 or -6 depending on what software is asking
Aug 27 16:08:57  I don't get it
Aug 27 16:09:17  hehe
Aug 27 16:09:53  are all touchdroid devs vom the usa?
Aug 27 16:09:58  from*
Aug 27 16:10:00  not vom
Aug 27 16:10:01  lol
Aug 27 16:10:07  most I'd assume
Aug 27 16:10:31  the touchpad wasnt launched in many countries, was it?
Aug 27 16:11:08  i dont know
Aug 27 16:11:14  Most of Europe, North America, and Australia
Aug 27 16:11:16  I know that for sure
Aug 27 16:11:23  Not sure about Asia
Aug 27 16:11:30  asia was gmt -8
Aug 27 16:11:32  oh, hi trsohmers
Aug 27 16:11:33  where i was
Aug 27 16:11:45  i know that one for a fact. soo many asked :)
Aug 27 16:15:13  cant seem to break the 5hr of sleep
Aug 27 16:15:14  sux
Aug 27 16:15:50  rhcp: Aren't you in North Carolina?
Aug 27 16:16:43  yea
Aug 27 16:16:51  how's the storm?
Aug 27 16:16:54  0
Aug 27 16:16:56  sun
Aug 27 16:16:59  im WAY in coast
Aug 27 16:17:04  Ah
Aug 27 16:17:06  people dont relize how big a state it is
Aug 27 16:17:09  but thanks for asking
Aug 27 16:17:17  I think we shall get rain at some point
Aug 27 16:17:19  nothing more
Aug 27 16:17:23  They are saying that MA is going to be completly covered
Aug 27 16:17:38  and only a small part of Vermont wont be hit…but otherwise new england is screwed
Aug 27 16:19:26  << i dono i checked last night at 5am
Aug 27 16:19:48  its WAS moving NNE
Aug 27 16:19:52  which means out to the water
Aug 27 16:47:33  so any news
Aug 27 16:48:23  in a bit. waiting for mate to come on at 1pm
Aug 27 16:48:25  20 mins
Aug 27 16:48:40  lol mate
Aug 27 16:49:15  been in soo many countries and use terms :)
Aug 27 16:49:18  ok I'll hang around
Aug 27 16:49:47  fuck Wal-Mart. only place in town with touchpad accessories and they won't match their own online price.
Aug 27 16:50:06  i got the charger dock from bb
Aug 27 16:50:09  39 bucks?
Aug 27 16:50:13  and the case from ebay
Aug 27 16:50:18  and screen protector
Aug 27 16:50:28  figured best bet
Aug 27 16:50:30  the dock for 39
Aug 27 16:50:33  How is that screen protector?
Aug 27 16:50:36  case $19 online is $49.88 in store. touchstone is like $35 online $75 in store
Aug 27 16:50:52  i got the TRUE hp one.
Aug 27 16:50:58  for like 15 or so new
Aug 27 16:51:00  I got a case at best buy at like 8 at night
Aug 27 16:51:14  walked in and the guy was just bringing them out
Aug 27 16:51:18  dont feel like running around
Aug 27 16:51:20  for crap
Aug 27 16:51:23  Is is a hard stiff plastic or is it a softer film like Zagg?
Aug 27 16:51:25  i knew the dock was at BB. so i got it
Aug 27 16:51:31  I didnt order zagg
Aug 27 16:51:33  i dont like zagg
Aug 27 16:51:41  I'm asking you to compare the HP one
Aug 27 16:51:51  oh HP case :)
Aug 27 16:51:55  not HP screen protector
Aug 27 16:51:55  :P
Aug 27 16:52:01  I see
Aug 27 16:52:03  I got Wal-Mart to match the case last night for $19 to just get me out checked out. management took ten min to get to the register
Aug 27 16:52:31  but no dice on the dock and BB in my hometown doesn't even stock them
Aug 27 16:52:34  threaten to fart in their produce
Aug 27 16:52:37  they'll price match
Aug 27 16:52:48  I'm still waiting on my in-store delivery of the case at bb
Aug 27 16:52:56  wish they would hurry up
Aug 27 16:53:06  dont know. personally dont care. 39 bucks is ok for what it does
Aug 27 16:53:10  to save the usb port
Aug 27 16:53:12  touchstone is awesome though, but I'm afraid the TP will fall off, so far it hasn't
Aug 27 16:53:20  yeah but $75 isnt
Aug 27 16:53:24  just buy an ipad case
Aug 27 16:53:25  I wanted a keyboard but they didn't have any
Aug 27 16:53:27  same dimensions
Aug 27 16:53:33  ipad case covers the speakers
Aug 27 16:53:40  not the one i bought
Aug 27 16:53:42  you lil sasser
Aug 27 16:53:53  shrug. soo many out there
Aug 27 16:54:04  which did you get grandy?  does it work with touchstone?
Aug 27 16:54:07  the true hp one. is very nice. i saw it in person with buddy
Aug 27 16:54:12  dont know about touchstone
Aug 27 16:54:18  i bought the HP cover at hh gregg for 19.99
Aug 27 16:54:27  gonna return the ipad 1 folio to verizon
Aug 27 16:54:33  it looks like you could drop it
Aug 27 16:54:38  with the plastic
Aug 27 16:54:43  http://www.ebay.com/itm/260837547353
Aug 27 16:54:49  i got the touchstone too, not really a fan thus far
Aug 27 16:55:00  gx1400:  walmart has the HP portfolio case?
Aug 27 16:55:13  best case you can get
Aug 27 16:55:16  Sid69: per store yes
Aug 27 16:55:20  if you want to run around
Aug 27 16:55:24  i dont :)
Aug 27 16:55:26  I think? I got the official HP one in store
Aug 27 16:55:26  I'll call
Aug 27 16:55:30  DanielC: what's your beef with touchstone
Aug 27 16:55:31  ?
Aug 27 16:55:36  I want to official
Aug 27 16:55:37  walmart isnt price matching
Aug 27 16:55:38  the
Aug 27 16:55:39  calling wont help relaly unless you know a person
Aug 27 16:55:45  they wont hold it
Aug 27 16:55:47  wonder if mine has any chit in stock
Aug 27 16:55:51  i got the paula poundstone charger
Aug 27 16:55:53  ArAraya213 i jut dont know if its worth the 40 dollars
Aug 27 16:56:01  the dock?
Aug 27 16:56:05  well worth 40 bucks
Aug 27 16:56:15  its neat, dont get me wrong. but i cant stand the thing up in portrait mode
Aug 27 16:56:23  does the dock work WITH the HP portfolio case?
Aug 27 16:56:27  i dont use it on dock
Aug 27 16:56:28  with the case on im talking here
Aug 27 16:56:32  just to chrage
Aug 27 16:56:33  Idunno, maybe if it had a magnet or something to hold the TP in
Aug 27 16:56:46  think of it like this. they are out of stock *
Aug 27 16:56:48  rhcp:  that doesn't answer my question
Aug 27 16:56:51  if you fuck the usb port
Aug 27 16:56:55  gone
Aug 27 16:56:58  WILL it work with the portfolio case on
Aug 27 16:56:58  also, the flap on the case should have some form of catch
Aug 27 16:57:00  Can you set it on the TP in the case with the cover open?
Aug 27 16:57:00  Sid I think I read it does
Aug 27 16:57:00  unless you are good at repair
Aug 27 16:57:04  Sid69: my friend says yes
Aug 27 16:57:07  or a strap included or something
Aug 27 16:57:10  he had both the pad+cover+dock
Aug 27 16:57:13  you lie you don't have friends
Aug 27 16:57:22  i fart in the mouth of ipad users
Aug 27 16:57:24  Araya213: in landscape
Aug 27 16:57:24  yes
Aug 27 16:57:35  unless u want a weird hanging flap in portrait
Aug 27 16:57:51  can you fold the flap back around and dock it?
Aug 27 16:57:56  time to call wallus mart
Aug 27 16:58:10  Araya213: i have it folded behind the touchpad
Aug 27 16:58:13  Martsellus Wallace
Aug 27 16:58:17  all on the touchstone
Aug 27 16:58:20  nothing hanging back
Aug 27 16:58:39  because it will not charge in landscape if the flap is to the top
Aug 27 16:58:44  OH i see
Aug 27 16:58:54  the home button must be on the right
Aug 27 16:58:58  That's suck city
Aug 27 16:58:59  or portrait
Aug 27 16:59:13  its on there pretty solid
Aug 27 16:59:22  the flap forms a conrout that fits perfect to the touchstone
Aug 27 16:59:31  contour**
Aug 27 16:59:42  Does it seem like it might take a drop?
Aug 27 16:59:54  what do you mean
Aug 27 17:00:04  if the touchstone will survive a fall? yes
Aug 27 17:00:19  Cool
Aug 27 17:00:36  fuck it ill keep it
Aug 27 17:00:38  lol
Aug 27 17:00:39  Cuz I plan on dropping the shit out of mine
Aug 27 17:00:56  I'm gonna drop it like algebra
Aug 27 17:00:59  you can always just use the case to prop up the touchpad and plug in a usb
Aug 27 17:01:08  drop algebra? wow lmao
Aug 27 17:01:15  USB is so last week, literally
Aug 27 17:04:26  It is not 1pm RHCP
Aug 27 17:04:31  *now
Aug 27 17:04:33  yea
Aug 27 17:04:39  ill see when he comes on.
Aug 27 17:04:46  we went to bed at 5am :) my time
Aug 27 17:04:55  re
Aug 27 17:05:56  rhcp: "we" eh? ;-)
Aug 27 17:06:26  rhcp will it much more than "only adb"?
Aug 27 17:06:39  no promises man. we need to see
Aug 27 17:06:54  what are you working on?
Aug 27 17:07:33  not going to disclose but it will allow adb/other stuff
Aug 27 17:07:40  we just need to get the offsets right
Aug 27 17:07:45  hehe ok
Aug 27 17:07:46  and load points
Aug 27 17:08:02  doing memory is safe (not too stable)
Aug 27 17:08:05  but safe
Aug 27 17:08:53  novacom boot mem:// < Android ;)
Aug 27 17:09:02  yea
Aug 27 17:09:25  gotta love u-boot multi file images ;)
Aug 27 17:09:37  but i think we are going to attempt putting the file on flash
Aug 27 17:09:59  i haven't got it respect the load address or entry point on a multi image
Aug 27 17:10:03  dono will see
Aug 27 17:10:11  I am tinkering around…but I don not feel comfortable enough to flash anything yet ;)
Aug 27 17:10:13  you can. its just a matter of offsets
Aug 27 17:10:22  you can flash via mem
Aug 27 17:10:24  it wont brik
Aug 27 17:10:29  we flashed with 000000000 as load
Aug 27 17:10:29  lol
Aug 27 17:10:45  um ok
Aug 27 17:10:54  does that msm cpu have anything to recover if you kill bootie?
Aug 27 17:10:58  feel free
Aug 27 17:11:00  ok
Aug 27 17:11:05  i dont think you can kill this thing from memory
Aug 27 17:11:12  hope so ;)
Aug 27 17:11:42  rhcp: Can I interview you in PM?
Aug 27 17:12:13  oldtopmanserver: dono who you are. plus. im waiting on something. and going to eat in a second
Aug 27 17:12:23  btw…i did try to boot my own kernel earlier on…anyone know how to get rid of the hp logo while doing that?
Aug 27 17:12:34  its just that it won't work. i've been setting bootargs-ramdisk to actually boot mmc. and it will never even enter the kernel if its a multimage
Aug 27 17:12:58  mauimauer: hold power plus the home button
Aug 27 17:13:01  for a hard reboot
Aug 27 17:13:23  recovery mode -> mem boot -> hp logo -> wait some time -> it boots back to webos, with nova term disabled.
Aug 27 17:13:32  rhcp: Consider me a news reporter. PM me when you're done eating :P
Aug 27 17:13:44  always have to reboot to get novacomd back
Aug 27 17:13:57  LOL, love the url for status...
Aug 27 17:16:08  are you guys using that APQ8060 repo by Qualcomm?
Aug 27 17:16:22  seems like the right place to look for compatible stuff ;)
Aug 27 17:16:37  I've been playing around with cross compiling for the touchpad.  Saw one guys did Openssh.  Is there any other program that might be beneficial that I could concentrate on?
Aug 27 17:16:38  not for the kernel…but for the android build
Aug 27 17:16:54  flatspin …i'd like to have nano ;)
Aug 27 17:17:03  I hate vi ;)
Aug 27 17:17:08  want to rage?: http://www.beatweek.com/news/9008-bargain-hp-touchpad-tablet-on-sale-cheap-but-lacks-apps-ios-future/
Aug 27 17:18:04  lol..  ya but then I'd have the emacs guys pissed at me...
Aug 27 17:18:37  vi vi vi is the editor of the beast
Aug 27 17:18:47  To use vi is not a sin, but a penance.
Aug 27 17:18:57  Ah… Richard Stallman
Aug 27 17:19:31  yeah…but i lost my vi mug somehow
Aug 27 17:19:58  vi mug?!?!?
Aug 27 17:20:01  hehe, I'll look at it.  Was trying to think of someway to help that wasn't duplicating effort so..
Aug 27 17:20:05  Must… smash...
Aug 27 17:20:26  Araya213, the writer is mostly right
Aug 27 17:22:22  i love nano :) vi is okay... but nano is easier
Aug 27 17:22:43  love emacs.
Aug 27 17:23:23  i dont know emacs...
Aug 27 17:23:33  nano ftw
Aug 27 17:23:37  but anyways
Aug 27 17:23:40  Should I bid?
Aug 27 17:23:40  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drawing-HP-Touchpad-16GB-WI-FI-9-7-WHITE-READ-/170687176878?pt=Art_Drawings&hash=item27bdbfa0ae#ht_766wt_1193
Aug 27 17:23:52  I really think I could resell that in 20 years for at least a million....
Aug 27 17:24:06  hehe, the only thing I don't like about vi is that MS Word won't accept my shortcut keys..
Aug 27 17:24:30  lol
Aug 27 17:24:40  STUPID WORD! Why don't you accept CTRL+X!
Aug 27 17:26:14  lol
Aug 27 17:26:27  hehe
Aug 27 17:37:10  Odd, my tablet won't turn on....
Aug 27 17:37:43  y
Aug 27 17:38:04  Ximon: hold power and the "home" button for 15 seconds
Aug 27 17:38:47  is it too much to ask for a fucking folio case for this bitch?
Aug 27 17:38:59  in a store yes i think
Aug 27 17:38:59  ye dawg
Aug 27 17:39:02  trsohmers, Done that, nothing
Aug 27 17:39:09  i got peeps in bestbuy. managers
Aug 27 17:39:09  oh
Aug 27 17:39:11  cant get
Aug 27 17:39:16  ebay it.
Aug 27 17:39:18  Sid69 google "technocel case for ipad 1" it works for the TP also
Aug 27 17:39:21  mehhh…anyway to get rid of that hp logo while booting a kernel via novacom boot mem:// ?
Aug 27 17:39:29  I just shut it down to try and get into recovery mode, and it won't turn on at all now.
Aug 27 17:39:32  yes
Aug 27 17:39:35  kinda hard to debug that way ;)
Aug 27 17:39:37  hold down power + home
Aug 27 17:39:42  it will hard reset
Aug 27 17:40:03  what do you mean by hard reset?
Aug 27 17:40:09  turn off
Aug 27 17:40:12  as you requested
Aug 27 17:40:32  And 21 hours later its finally downloaded the update
Aug 27 17:40:37  HP's servers must be slammed....
Aug 27 17:40:52  billybob_:  want the OEM so it will work with the FUCKING charger dock I don't' have
Aug 27 17:41:13  Sid69 the technocel case works with the Touchstone also
Aug 27 17:41:43  If I hold my touchpad about an 1" away from the touchstone it still says its charging
Aug 27 17:41:55  I guess if you find a case that isnt super thick it will work fine.
Aug 27 17:42:30  hmmmm
Aug 27 17:42:35  kewl
Aug 27 17:42:44  Guardian: It probably would have been easier just for you to use metaDoctor to make a 3.0.2 update
Aug 27 17:42:45  image
Aug 27 17:42:49  and then flash it
Aug 27 17:42:50  Al Qaeda #2 is dead
Aug 27 17:43:12  Yeah, I tried an alternate method on palms website but it kept saying invalid serial number
Aug 27 17:43:23  Even though it was the correct one...
Aug 27 17:43:35  billybob_:  any box stores that carry that case?
Aug 27 17:45:00  Sid69 none tht i know of, i had to order mine from amazon
Aug 27 17:45:11  any case stores that carry that box?
Aug 27 17:45:27  is it possible to change the hp bootlogo?
Aug 27 17:46:45  so who has one of these blasted android TP's?
Aug 27 17:47:08  jonpry: i have two now atm
Aug 27 17:47:26  just got one of my orders from HP
Aug 27 17:47:36  and touchpanel works?
Aug 27 17:47:43  yea
Aug 27 17:48:16  how many shipped with android on them?
Aug 27 17:48:27  I know I saw like 1 or 2 that claim it came already installed...
Aug 27 17:48:42  rhcp, can you provide a dmesg and logcat?
Aug 27 17:48:56  no logcat atm. waiting on buddy
Aug 27 17:49:05  dmesg of normal webos sure
Aug 27 17:49:23  you said you had one with android
Aug 27 17:49:27  no i didnt
Aug 27 17:49:33  oh
Aug 27 17:49:34  im sorry
Aug 27 17:49:37  i mis-read
Aug 27 17:49:44  i thought you said who has one of these blasted tablets
Aug 27 17:49:45  :P
Aug 27 17:50:02  i already have a tablet :p
Aug 27 17:50:06  sorry
Aug 27 17:50:10  havent eaten yet
Aug 27 17:50:13  wife is slow today :)
Aug 27 17:50:14  i thought blasted = bricked..
Aug 27 17:50:26  sirana yes it is possible, change it with metadoctor
Aug 27 17:50:35  you'll have to reflash though
Aug 27 17:51:01  sirana: Yes, you can change the bootlogo
Aug 27 17:51:06  What crimsonredmk just said
Aug 27 17:51:07  my isnt bricked... i dont kill devices :D
Aug 27 17:51:56  oh
Aug 27 17:51:58  lol
Aug 27 17:52:05  okay :D
Aug 27 17:52:07  has there been a brick yet?
Aug 27 17:52:25  I may have
Aug 27 17:52:30  By turning it off
Aug 27 17:52:52  ok... i have to test it with a new bootlogo
Aug 27 17:53:00  rhcp: I believe there has been one brick
Aug 27 17:53:19  some moron wiped partition 7 or 8 for some reason
Aug 27 17:53:26  Ok found a solution to get 3G on my Touchpad
Aug 27 17:53:32  when am in the train
Aug 27 17:53:40  Seobob: just tethering?
Aug 27 17:53:47  Yes
Aug 27 17:53:59  lol
Aug 27 17:54:05  The touchpad didn't support ad hoc networks afaik
Aug 27 17:54:15  Here's my hack :)
Aug 27 17:54:25  it doesn't... the new beta wireless tether works if on android.. thought you all probably know that
Aug 27 17:54:37  though*
Aug 27 17:54:39  Turn on MyWii in your iPhone, leave it in your pocket > connect with your Touchpad > boom! internet
Aug 27 17:55:07  :D
Aug 27 17:55:10  hai
Aug 27 17:55:33  how difficult is it to remove the backing? I am thinking a custom paintjob may be in order
Aug 27 17:55:42  like my hack josh :) ?
Aug 27 17:55:45  Is there any solution to my Touchpad not turning on?
Aug 27 17:55:54  Charge it Ximon
Aug 27 17:55:57  Ximon- try running WebOS Doctor.
Aug 27 17:56:04  It was fully charged
Aug 27 17:56:16  I've not installed preware yet, tried but these instructions are too confusing
Aug 27 17:56:27  I turned it off, held the vol. up and power, and it didn't turn on.
Aug 27 17:56:38  Doesn't turn on with just power either
Aug 27 17:56:45  it's dead, jim
Aug 27 17:56:47  The instructions really aren't that hard :P
Aug 27 17:56:47  RMA.
Aug 27 17:56:51  its power plus home
Aug 27 17:56:58  gimme a good link shamash, i'll try again
Aug 27 17:57:04  One sec.
Aug 27 17:57:05  not to get into recovery it's not, jonpry
Aug 27 17:57:06  ok
Aug 27 17:57:07  anyone know how to split up an u-boot multi file image?
Aug 27 17:57:09  and the vol key seems to interfere with the reset
Aug 27 17:57:11  It involves a lot of turning your device off and back on, though.
Aug 27 17:57:16  except doing it by hand ;)
Aug 27 17:57:17  dude
Aug 27 17:57:19  Nothing on the screen, the backlight doesn't even light up
Aug 27 17:57:20  Sort of annoying and takes a little while.
Aug 27 17:57:21  my touchpad feels like a brick com[ared to my ipad2
Aug 27 17:57:31  Ximon: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230912
Aug 27 17:57:32  i love my touchstone
Aug 27 17:57:34  it felt like a brick compared to my ipad1
Aug 27 17:57:38  That is the link I used and it worked perfectly for me.
Aug 27 17:57:47  vol up is recover. reset is power + home. and the reset won't happen if the vol key is pressed. i do this like 20 times per day
Aug 27 17:57:50  like my hack trsohmers :) ?
Aug 27 17:57:57  and other than the technocel case, has anyone tried an iPad case on it?
Aug 27 17:57:58  lol
Aug 27 17:58:22  Ximon: Is your issue with installing HP webOS Quick Install on a Mac?
Aug 27 17:58:30  If so, I have a fix for that as well, as I was having issues with that at first.
Aug 27 17:58:34  his touch pad doesn't even turn on
Aug 27 17:58:39  from what I gathered.
Aug 27 17:58:54  Oh.  I meant Seobob.
Aug 27 17:58:56  ^_^
Aug 27 17:59:17  Ximon just has a really neat name so for some reason my brain wanted to type it really badly ;P
Aug 27 17:59:24  question, I'm using warthog kernel, but every time I restart, it returns to the default 1.2
Aug 27 17:59:25  I use Windows 7
Aug 27 17:59:31  meh leme get my tablet again. one sec
Aug 27 17:59:42  Seobob, you should be fine following the guide I posted then.
Aug 27 17:59:55  I really don't know if restarting it as many times as he tells is necessary..
Aug 27 18:00:12  Ok let me try again
Aug 27 18:00:19  I did it anyways, though, just to be safe.
Aug 27 18:00:36  you do have to restart to get the real testing kernels feed to show though
Aug 27 18:01:18  Yeah.  Although you don't need to restart Luna each time you install one of those addons at the bottom via Preware, you can just install all of them and do the luna restart on the last app.
Aug 27 18:01:28  do I have to adjust to 1.7 every time I restart?
Aug 27 18:01:34  nope.
Aug 27 18:02:37  how can I keep it to stick through restarts?
Aug 27 18:03:04  If you put your profile in Govnah on "ondemandtcl" and set max freq to 1.5 it should stay.
Aug 27 18:03:30  Make sure to hit "apply settings" on the bottom of that page, don't just hit back.  I made that mistake a few times :P
Aug 27 18:04:16  interesting
Aug 27 18:04:27  I got on boot "mountall.sh: battery was pulled"
Aug 27 18:04:34  you can't remove the battery on a touchpad lol
Aug 27 18:04:38  lool
Aug 27 18:04:54  Uhh guys - https://twitter.com/#!/jbruchon/status/107510348713697281
Aug 27 18:05:11  damn.. i've mistakenly put a password on developer mode before
Aug 27 18:05:11  quick question to the devs here, are you behind the idea that the bounty should go to the devgroups charity of choice instead?
Aug 27 18:05:16  just read your instructions shamash
Aug 27 18:05:26  Not my instructions, just the instructions I followed.
Aug 27 18:05:28  ". DO NOT ENTER ANYTHING IN THE PASSWORD FIELD. Leave it blank. Failure to do this will lead you to using webOS Doctor to fully reset your HP Touchpad!"
Aug 27 18:05:37  :(
Aug 27 18:05:46  so I can't proceed ?
Aug 27 18:05:48  webOS doctor doesn't take too long though.
Aug 27 18:05:52  I had to use it to install 3.0.2
Aug 27 18:05:58  wtf
Aug 27 18:06:10  my touchpad just reset out of the blue when I used govnah to put it to 1.9 like it was originally
Aug 27 18:06:17  BatNode: not this shit again....
Aug 27 18:06:30  acfrazier: There's supposedly a bunch of bugs with 1.9 and 1.7 is safer.
Aug 27 18:06:47  but I've had it on 1.9.
Aug 27 18:06:49  you can pull the battery
Aug 27 18:06:51  for like.. ever
Aug 27 18:06:53  but you need to open her up
Aug 27 18:07:20  Also, @BatNode: I guess that just depends on who you trust.
Aug 27 18:07:35  I tend to like trsohmers, although I guess I really don't know the most about any of the devs.
Aug 27 18:08:07  lol trsohmers||brb
Aug 27 18:08:12  Don't trust trsohmers. He's sitting on something crucial and is just bragging about it. Or he really has nothing and is just covering it up.
Aug 27 18:08:36  BatNode: It's the former
Aug 27 18:08:39  If I was kicked out of a project, and working on it myself, I wouldn't share my findings with my old teammates either.
Aug 27 18:08:49  But I wouldn't say bragging about it...
Aug 27 18:08:49  why would u brag
Aug 27 18:08:55  BatNode: so was this dev team.... they wouldnt release their shit either so...
Aug 27 18:08:57  yes thats exactly what i'd call it
Aug 27 18:09:09  evulhotdog_ we have witheld nothing
Aug 27 18:09:10  Think about iPhone Dev Teams for jailbreaking iPhones.
Aug 27 18:09:27  Different dev teams are working, and they don't share with eachother, because they want to put out their jailbreak first.
Aug 27 18:09:33  The Touchdroid "team" is dead… all that is left is rhcp. Everyone else left
Aug 27 18:09:40  ok shamash,its still stuck on this page - http://i.imgur.com/p0HPH.jpg
Aug 27 18:09:44  is that normal ?
Aug 27 18:09:46  hey guys.
Aug 27 18:09:57  no bashing. no bragging no bs hah
Aug 27 18:09:57  Seobob- that is the loading screen.
Aug 27 18:09:58  ok
Aug 27 18:10:05  mm.. its not loaded yet
Aug 27 18:10:06  adults here
Aug 27 18:10:11  even if you are <=15
Aug 27 18:10:14  Do you have Java 1.5 or higher installed?
Aug 27 18:10:19  thank you
Aug 27 18:10:22  I am 12 and wat is this
Aug 27 18:10:25  ^________^
Aug 27 18:10:36  Trsohmers is saying he's saying he's "upholding some higher ethical purpose" for not releasing what we need but it's nothing more than a scam. I can link logs if you'd like
Aug 27 18:10:36  any news? last I read there was display questions people had ideas on
Aug 27 18:10:58  truthfully the last thing we need is more drama.
Aug 27 18:10:59  Not releasing what, now?
Aug 27 18:11:01  if you start it, you get banned.
Aug 27 18:11:04  BatNode, as I said earlier, he's been forced out of a team to work on the project alone, why should he share his findings with the team that kicked him out?
Aug 27 18:11:13  leme check
Aug 27 18:11:19  tread carefully. you have been warned.
Aug 27 18:11:21  Seobob: You can check on this page, one second..
Aug 27 18:11:27  .
Aug 27 18:11:28  He should share with EVERYONE. As should everyone else. I'm just saying
Aug 27 18:11:41  I'm just curious what's being withheld, no drama.
Aug 27 18:11:55  software wants to be free :)
Aug 27 18:12:11  Urgh, I can't find the page to link you because you actually need to be logged in @ HP.  It is the page for WebOS Doctor.
Aug 27 18:12:16  Basically Craptain has it all working. Except for the touch screen. And somehow the information on how to get that touch screen working would get trsohmers' friend "fired"
Aug 27 18:12:35  BatNode: its called grudge and everyone here has it except for a select few devs
Aug 27 18:12:41  uupdating..
Aug 27 18:12:49  Ah, something from the Qualcomm ROM?
Aug 27 18:12:54  Hey guys, just woke up
Aug 27 18:13:02  BatNode: I also have a much better method than craptain is using… although craptain did a good job
Aug 27 18:13:19  Do we have any news on the kernel for the tp?
Aug 27 18:13:23  Oh good. So you're just going to say you have it and not give it out. Thus holding back everyone's interests
Aug 27 18:13:27  It's probably a good idea that anything that touches AOSP stays as far from actually using Qualcomm as possible for legal reasons.
Aug 27 18:13:27  Do we have a working copy?
Aug 27 18:13:51  BatNode: I'm just using it myself, and will release it when I can
Aug 27 18:13:58  WHY CAN'T YOU?
Aug 27 18:14:02  WHAT'S STOPPING YOU?
Aug 27 18:14:10  I already told you, and you just said it a couple of minutes ago
Aug 27 18:14:18  BatNode, stop it before it starts. now.
Aug 27 18:14:33  BatNode: I wouldn't stress on it, dude. It'll all sort out eventually.
Aug 27 18:14:34  Hmmmm..
Aug 27 18:14:58  so not ETA, but progress wise, how far are we from something that works?
Aug 27 18:15:14  Mattseg: I'd say that's asking for an ETA.
Aug 27 18:15:17  mattseg: I'm hopefully going to release sometime this week
Aug 27 18:15:19  It's infuriating to say the least. That someone's "moral obligation" is potentially preventing us from having working copies of Android on our TP this weekend
Aug 27 18:15:22  I'm no stress on this whole thing. It'll be great when devs have it done, but I'd rather it go slow and careful than be done in a hurry and questionably.
Aug 27 18:15:27  Not guarantee, though
Aug 27 18:15:33  i dont get why devs are ruining their reputations by holding grudges.
Aug 27 18:15:36  trsohmers: thanks
Aug 27 18:15:39  If the hurricane doesn't hit me to hard, I really hope to release this week
Aug 27 18:15:50  shamash: no, it's asking what the roadblocks are
Aug 27 18:15:52  GUYS: This is nothing about grudges
Aug 27 18:15:55  well, atleast for me
Aug 27 18:16:03  BatNode: If you can't wait a few extra days, dude, you've got some patience problems. :)
Aug 27 18:16:04  ashtrai: all because of the money
Aug 27 18:16:13  Even if it is about a grudge, you can't really blame it on one side at all.
Aug 27 18:16:50  k1l_: Well it's not about money for me
Aug 27 18:16:52  Oh man, I'm working on my student teaching placement right now, and I've just taken every middle school off the list.  Thanks for helping me realize it was a bad idea, #touchdroid.
Aug 27 18:16:56  trsohmers - than what is it about? Tell everyone here because we're all interested
Aug 27 18:17:00  BatNode: and there's not a fucking thing you can do to change it so shuttle fuck up  you have np power to release it so just be quiet and do nothing like most others
Aug 27 18:17:12  how much is the bounty for this? $2k, that's peanuts
Aug 27 18:17:16  i asked before if devs would be okay with the bounty going to the charity of their choice and no one really answered. i'll take it that most devs are doing it for the bounty and not for the community?
Aug 27 18:17:17  evulhotdog, ^
Aug 27 18:17:33  still on this page shamash - http://i.imgur.com/p0HPH.jpg
Aug 27 18:17:40  meh leme switch to another pc
Aug 27 18:17:45  Do you want him to die in the hurricane for your petty little android release? I didn't think so.
Aug 27 18:17:46  Hmm..  yeah you might want to try that
Aug 27 18:17:49  I'll fuck your shuttle up if you don't
Aug 27 18:17:50  I get the feeling most of the devs I've seen talking would do it without the money involved anyhow.
Aug 27 18:17:54  Sadly, seobob, I'm much more of a Mac guy :/
Aug 27 18:18:11  shamash: +1…. I only use OSX and Ubuntu
Aug 27 18:18:15  Can't stand windows
Aug 27 18:18:21  losers
Aug 27 18:18:25  hippies
Aug 27 18:18:26  pfff
Aug 27 18:18:28  The money is kind of a poison pill, because getting it divvied up is going to be a disaster. :)
Aug 27 18:18:38  TellarHK: +1
Aug 27 18:18:41  I used to dual boot OSX and Ubuntu, but at least on Apple hardware, Ubuntu always seems to have SO MANY issues.
Aug 27 18:18:56  TellarHK: not our problem.
Aug 27 18:19:05  Tellar, nobody cares about $1500
Aug 27 18:19:08  Very true shamash…I have a mac and a pc running Ubuntu 11.04
Aug 27 18:19:08  its chicken change
Aug 27 18:19:11  I mean 10.04*
Aug 27 18:19:18  Mmmm..
Aug 27 18:19:28  I'm just saying, as a 22 year old senior in college, I'd sure like $1500.
Aug 27 18:19:35  If you could make me your charity of choice, that would be great.
Aug 27 18:19:41  who wouldnt ?
Aug 27 18:19:46  you'd never get the whole amount though, that's the point
Aug 27 18:19:48  Send it all to the EFF.
Aug 27 18:19:51  For the time these guys are putting into this, a bounty of $1500 would represent less return than spending the time flipping burgers
Aug 27 18:19:54  We can easily beat that $2000 once we have it released
Aug 27 18:19:55  seriously - developing android for touchpad would cost hundreds of thousands minimum if it was done by HP - $2000 is nothing
Aug 27 18:20:00  just from pure donations
Aug 27 18:20:02  who cares
Aug 27 18:20:13  SHIT
Aug 27 18:20:19  First huge thunder and lightening
Aug 27 18:20:39  boob-cracka-lacka
Aug 27 18:20:40  Hey Shamash, i've released my first touchdriod hack :)
Aug 27 18:20:40  trsohmers: Enjoy your hurricane. ;)
Aug 27 18:20:42  Want to hear it ?
Aug 27 18:20:54  I wouldn't be oh so worried, tssohmers||brb.  My little brother lives in Florida and my older sister lives in Manhattan, and both of them seem to be pretty fine.
Aug 27 18:20:55  Seobob: publish it on a wilo
Aug 27 18:20:57  wiki
Aug 27 18:21:00  or rootz
Aug 27 18:21:04  trshomers: release it before you die pls
Aug 27 18:21:04  write it out.
Aug 27 18:21:06  Sure Seobob ^_^
Aug 27 18:21:10  is there a way to get boot log
Aug 27 18:21:12  instead of logo ?
Aug 27 18:21:16  yea
Aug 27 18:21:21  custom kernel. drops dmesg
Aug 27 18:21:25  ashtrai: I'll set up a dead mans switch to release it on monday if I die
Aug 27 18:21:25  3G on your TouchDriod - Turn on MyWii on your iPhone (leave it in your pocket) > Connect with touchpad on the move!
Aug 27 18:21:26  and serial debug/usb debug
Aug 27 18:21:28  trsohmers||brb, okay, your priorities now shift from babbling on IRC to surviving. Because there's a flood risk, you might want to be on higher ground
Aug 27 18:21:34  hm
Aug 27 18:21:40  :P  I don't know if that's so much of a hack..
Aug 27 18:21:40  i have a custom kernel but ..
Aug 27 18:21:43  hahaha
Aug 27 18:21:46  acfrazier: Good thing I am on high ground, and already prepared the house
Aug 27 18:21:47  It is man
Aug 27 18:21:50  I was doing that all day Thursday.
Aug 27 18:21:56  if I randomly disconnect and don't respond… power is out
Aug 27 18:21:57  :P
Aug 27 18:21:57  damn. so am not the 1st one :(
Aug 27 18:22:10  Flemmard, klog through novaterm
Aug 27 18:22:29  MyWi is terrible, but I can't complain because I got it for free.
Aug 27 18:22:30  I'm almost bummed, I have a UPS that can keep my network up for 8-10 hours, and I live someplace that doesn't have hurricanes or bad quakes or anything. ;)
Aug 27 18:22:39  lol i setup wifi connection with mobile AP on my captivate in the store to test the touchpads browser out =)
Aug 27 18:22:40  lol
Aug 27 18:22:43  jonpry: yes but i want what's happening *before*
Aug 27 18:22:53  I have 2 phones, 3 tablets, and 2 computers charged
Aug 27 18:22:57  I bought it and it didn't work at all for me at first, so I contacted customer support over and over, and nobody responded, so I made a paypal dispute, which again, nobody responded to.
Aug 27 18:23:02  and a backup battery which would last about an hour
Aug 27 18:23:06  Flemmard, before what?
Aug 27 18:23:09  no good if you have no network lol
Aug 27 18:23:13  before being able to access novaterm
Aug 27 18:23:25  acfrazier: Backup battery is for the router lol
Aug 27 18:23:27  yeah, reboot, then klog [0-3]
Aug 27 18:23:50  no but ..
Aug 27 18:23:52  Flemmard, are you booting the kernel via bootie (safe method)?
Aug 27 18:23:57  must be a shitty battery then, router doesn't have /that/ much draw
Aug 27 18:24:01  Pulser: yes
Aug 27 18:24:04  kk cool
Aug 27 18:24:09  i want to see what's happening
Aug 27 18:24:13  and not the logo ..
Aug 27 18:24:14  k
Aug 27 18:24:20  this a custom adb kernel?
Aug 27 18:24:22  so if someone has a *real* clue
Aug 27 18:24:27  flemmard I have the same problem ;)
Aug 27 18:24:31  that damn hp logo ;)
Aug 27 18:24:37  yeah
Aug 27 18:24:38  i'd rather see my kernel crashing
Aug 27 18:24:41  it's not easy to debug
Aug 27 18:24:42  yeah
Aug 27 18:24:55  which it probably does…since it boots right to webs after a while
Aug 27 18:25:03  dude
Aug 27 18:25:05  Flemmard: ask tsohmers
Aug 27 18:25:09  I would have had no fkn clue that finding accessories for this bitch would be such a pain in the ass
Aug 27 18:25:21  klog keeps the dmesg from the last 3 boots and its accessable from bootie
Aug 27 18:25:33  i mean wtf
Aug 27 18:25:34  found shit at Walace Mart 60 miles away but they want full retail.  fucks
Aug 27 18:25:36  oh
Aug 27 18:25:38  sorry so
Aug 27 18:25:40  jonpry good idea ;)
Aug 27 18:25:55  novacom get file://klog
Aug 27 18:25:59  lmao  Wallace mart
Aug 27 18:26:15  I dont think he can get novacom in his own kernel
Aug 27 18:26:26  I can't be bothered to spend money on accessories.  I'm not even really quite sure why I bought a touchpad.
Aug 27 18:26:27  don't need it. novacom into bootie
Aug 27 18:26:28  Glad I got my accessories at Staples the other day, for half price.
Aug 27 18:26:34  Sid69, they will price match to their website
Aug 27 18:26:38  ] fsboot
Aug 27 18:26:39  loading file '/boot/uImage-c' to address 0x41000000
Aug 27 18:26:39  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000000
Aug 27 18:26:41  i only se that
Aug 27 18:26:43  nothing more
Aug 27 18:26:43  hm ..
Aug 27 18:26:44  shamash , me too
Aug 27 18:26:48  I asked the good he said he wouldn't
Aug 27 18:26:50  dood
Aug 27 18:26:51  even
Aug 27 18:27:08  yeah i have patch for extra early klog to prevent problems like that
Aug 27 18:27:10  maybe I should call customer service
Aug 27 18:27:15  at that store
Aug 27 18:27:27  I had an iPad 2 when it first came out, but I sold it for rent money.
Aug 27 18:27:41  flemmard, i got device_command_rx:502: got request: verb 'boot', url 'mem://', argc 0
Aug 27 18:27:41  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000000
Aug 27 18:27:41  section len 4010048
Aug 27 18:27:41  section len 1048640
Aug 27 18:27:41  section len 157286464
Aug 27 18:27:42  section len 0
Aug 27 18:27:44  section_start 0x41000050
Aug 27 18:27:45  I don't really see the big deal about tablets, when I can do everything and more on my lappy.
Aug 27 18:27:46  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000050
Aug 27 18:27:48  section_start 0x41000050
Aug 27 18:27:50  section_start 0x413d3090
Aug 27 18:27:52  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x413d3090
Aug 27 18:27:56  section_start 0x413d3090
Aug 27 18:27:56  novacom boot mem:// < your.uImage
Aug 27 18:27:58  section_start 0x414d30d0
Aug 27 18:28:00  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x414d30d0
Aug 27 18:28:00  nope bitch just told me they don't
Aug 27 18:28:01  that's what I do
Aug 27 18:28:02  section_start 0x414d30d0
Aug 27 18:28:04  section_start 0x4aad3110
Aug 27 18:28:06  and then nothing but a logo on my screen.
Aug 27 18:28:07  lol oh
Aug 27 18:28:14  I got both iPad 1 and 2 on launch day, sold my 1 for only $150 less than I paid two weeks before the 2 was officially announced. :)
Aug 27 18:28:23  you can do that when you have booted into bootie
Aug 27 18:28:36  e.g. hold vol up and plugin your usb cable
Aug 27 18:28:41  I lost quite a bit selling my 2, because I live in a fairly small college town, and school had already gotten out for summer when I decided to sell it.
Aug 27 18:28:59  Ouch.
Aug 27 18:29:01  Spent $540+tax on the iPad + smartcover, about $580ish total, and sold for $475.
Aug 27 18:29:04  never messed with klog
Aug 27 18:29:09  Took a cut, but hey, gotta pay rent.
Aug 27 18:29:15  I use my tablets all the time. Watching TV, travelling, etc.
Aug 27 18:29:26  If I had to sell anything to make cash, I've got some guns I can part with.
Aug 27 18:29:35  I use my tablets/kindle only when i popo.
Aug 27 18:29:46  Only when you police?
Aug 27 18:29:55  bathroom.
Aug 27 18:29:56  so how is the effort coming?
Aug 27 18:29:57  Fuck the 5-0
Aug 27 18:30:00  I've got a Nook Touch that I really like.  I had the Nook Color at first, but didn't really like reading on it.
Aug 27 18:30:09  Fuck me for being an English Education major and loving to read, haha.
Aug 27 18:30:14  kindle is good.
Aug 27 18:30:19  if you just want reading.
Aug 27 18:30:27  Nook Touch is better than kindle, IMO.
Aug 27 18:30:37  Although I'm sure the new Kindle coming out soon will be awesome.
Aug 27 18:30:40  same, I only use a tablet when taking a dump.
Aug 27 18:30:47  it sure is nice to be able to IRC while taking a dump.
Aug 27 18:30:54  Touchpad is better than a nook color :)
Aug 27 18:30:57  Framework, get your pad?
Aug 27 18:31:01  The Nook Color is a nice little Honeycomb tablet, if underpowered. :)
Aug 27 18:31:06  I'm still waiting on mine, Framework :/
Aug 27 18:31:09  nook color can run android too.
Aug 27 18:31:21  DarkRedFlame: I don't deny it.  I took the Nook Color back to get the Nook Touch, because I didn't want a tablet out of it, I wanted an eReader.
Aug 27 18:31:24    
Aug 27 18:31:25  btw no Wal-Mart won't match their price. I was on the phone with a manager for 15 min today before he'd agree to mark it down from $80 to $45
Aug 27 18:31:32  e-Ink FTW.
Aug 27 18:31:33  price online*
Aug 27 18:32:25  rainlake: I think you are doing what we are doing
Aug 27 18:32:30  multi image uimage eh
Aug 27 18:32:43  your walmart sucks balls then.
Aug 27 18:33:20  walmarts here wont either
Aug 27 18:33:31  I walk in, say it's $x on the website, will you match it to $x? They originally will give you the standard "we don't match our own website" deal, but I show them receipts from past purchases that were price matched at this store, and they do it.
Aug 27 18:33:45  Now though, when they see me walk in and ask they don't fuss with me.
Aug 27 18:34:05  I know the manager on a first name basis.
Aug 27 18:34:10  its their official policy but its a matter of finding the right manager
Aug 27 18:34:12  wow ;)
Aug 27 18:34:13  you can read nametags too?
Aug 27 18:34:15  LOL
Aug 27 18:34:17    Framework, get your pad?
Aug 27 18:34:19  yep :)
Aug 27 18:34:23  5 minutes ago
Aug 27 18:34:24  :P
Aug 27 18:34:28  no, I mean like he is my bitch.
Aug 27 18:34:35  im just messing
Aug 27 18:34:40  DanielC|Mac: zing!
Aug 27 18:34:42  Framework: inv into puredev?
Aug 27 18:34:43  :)
Aug 27 18:34:50  noes.
Aug 27 18:34:52  kk
Aug 27 18:34:57  Framework, IM STILL WAITING!!!!!!! :(
Aug 27 18:35:00  u can -V me
Aug 27 18:35:01  lol
Aug 27 18:35:12  are you guys dumb.. that channel isn't even +i anymore
Aug 27 18:35:26  rainlake: I missed your response the scroll in here
Aug 27 18:35:27  is nuts
Aug 27 18:35:31  i thought nook color's cant do honeycomb
Aug 27 18:35:34  thats a multi image uboot image?
Aug 27 18:35:41  only an olderversion
Aug 27 18:35:42  It CAN, just doesnt run well
Aug 27 18:35:44  Chesskid1: they can. team member SDK'ed
Aug 27 18:35:49  port
Aug 27 18:35:53  anyway off topic
Aug 27 18:35:54  Nook Color can, they overclocked it to 1.1 GHz
Aug 27 18:36:06  #puredev
Aug 27 18:36:10  I've used it on a Nook Color, it was neat, but slowwwww.
Aug 27 18:37:09  TellarHK: The NC in general is sort of slow even on the default OS, though.  Another reason I took it back…
Aug 27 18:37:13  hm how can i push a file to boot partition when in bootie?
Aug 27 18:37:13  :/
Aug 27 18:37:17  rainlake: lemme know if you want to chat
Aug 27 18:37:24  It's great if you want to just read books.
Aug 27 18:37:30  Flemmard: what are you even doing
Aug 27 18:37:35  Does Powder+Vol.Down do anything
Aug 27 18:37:42  xx.xxx.xxx.* ban isn't efficient. my ISP changes the last 2 xxx.xx
Aug 27 18:37:49  rhcp: trying to mess up with kernels :)
Aug 27 18:37:52  Ximon:  Power + Volume, while a USB Cable is connected, will boot your TP into USB mood.
Aug 27 18:37:54  it's better to xx.xxx.* ban
Aug 27 18:38:07  its pointless
Aug 27 18:38:12  TellarHK: I have to disagree with you there :P  I think the backlit screen is really terrible for reading books, and an eInk reader is a much better choice.
Aug 27 18:38:15  shamash, Ah, so Up and Down do the same?
Aug 27 18:38:15  i've seen my ISP change all the octets
Aug 27 18:38:18  flemmard…why not try to successfully boot a u-boot image with kernel and ramdisk first
Aug 27 18:38:23  Ximon: I believe so.
Aug 27 18:38:50  shamash: I'd prefer some kind of backlit eink, myself. Or nicely frontlit.
Aug 27 18:39:42  TellarHK: There were great cases for the first Nook that had booklights in them, I'm hoping some come out for the Nook Touch soon.
Aug 27 18:40:07  AFAIK, backlit eInk isn't really possible.  At the moment, I just use a rubberband to fix my regular book-light to it :P
Aug 27 18:41:05  mauimauer: hm .. sounds interesting, (im a 'noob' on these hardware) .. a clue somewhere? :$
Aug 27 18:41:36  nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage
Aug 27 18:41:45  yes
Aug 27 18:41:52  this is booted via webos doctor when you try to recovery boot
Aug 27 18:42:11  it's a u-boot multi file image with a kernel and a ramdisk
Aug 27 18:42:50  we should try to build sth like that, with an android ready kernel and maybe even use that ramdisk as base for the android ramdisk
Aug 27 18:43:00  it has novacomd and other nice sutff
Aug 27 18:43:29  mauimauer: are you talking about a multi image uboot? and a trenchcoat
Aug 27 18:44:00 * cypis|away is now away - Reason : bath time
Aug 27 18:44:22  mauimauer: but i'm a bit messed up .. the nova...uImage is the *same* that kernel makes when doing make uImage nope ?
Aug 27 18:45:48  nope
Aug 27 18:45:50  i extracted the android kernel and rootfs from 8.img. can't seem to get the kernel inside to work from bootie though
Aug 27 18:46:02  8.img?
Aug 27 18:46:07  lol
Aug 27 18:46:20  keep playing with the img's
Aug 27 18:46:20  its from the dump
Aug 27 18:46:22  please :)
Aug 27 18:46:26  Flemmard, just try mkimage -l youruImage
Aug 27 18:46:26  Do you guys have all drivers working properly yet? I see we have atheros wifi so signal strength should be better the broadcom.
Aug 27 18:46:38  it'll tell you what kind of uImage it is
Aug 27 18:46:41  partition 8 is a mkbootimg
Aug 27 18:46:47  e.g. kernel only or multi file
Aug 27 18:47:13  Image Name:   cwm nook color
Aug 27 18:47:13  Created:      Sat Aug 27 04:48:46 2011
Aug 27 18:47:13  Image Type:   ARM Linux Multi-File Image (uncompressed)
Aug 27 18:47:13  Data Size:    4608120 Bytes = 4500.12 kB = 4.39 MB
Aug 27 18:47:13  Load Address: 40208000
Aug 27 18:47:15  Entry Point:  40208000
Aug 27 18:47:18  Contents: Image 0: 3336220 Bytes = 3258.03 kB = 3.18 MB Image 1: 1271888 Bytes = 1242.08 kB = 1.21 MB
Aug 27 18:47:19  oh okay
Aug 27 18:47:21  ohoh
Aug 27 18:47:26  nook color?
Aug 27 18:47:36  just a name
Aug 27 18:47:42  i should rtfm a bit about uboot :)
Aug 27 18:47:49  uses same concept bootie
Aug 27 18:47:52  beware: afaik bootie is not bootie
Aug 27 18:47:52  sounds interesting
Aug 27 18:47:54  should work fine
Aug 27 18:48:12  boots fine
Aug 27 18:48:20  just need to adjust the load address in console
Aug 27 18:48:30  btw…did i miss something. what dump?
Aug 27 18:49:05  the android dump files
Aug 27 18:49:08  that some idiot made
Aug 27 18:49:14  they are useless
Aug 27 18:49:16  imho
Aug 27 18:49:33  waitwat
Aug 27 18:49:47  What does the nook color have to do with the touchpad?
Aug 27 18:49:54  its just a name for one
Aug 27 18:49:57  when using mkimage
Aug 27 18:50:12  and they both use bootie(uboot) we are re-uisng some old stuff
Aug 27 18:50:36  Why reinvent the wheel :P
Aug 27 18:50:42  exactly
Aug 27 18:50:42  mho…i don't care about the actual android rootfs until i have actually seen a booting kernel (working frame buffer, adb etc.) ;)
Aug 27 18:51:05  mauimauer: doing so from any of those image files is a waste
Aug 27 18:51:08  you need to do it from src
Aug 27 18:52:28  well yeah…i am currently looking at qcom's android tree for the apq8060
Aug 27 18:52:37  and the kernel source provided by palm of course
Aug 27 18:52:42  mauimauer, I looked at that tree
Aug 27 18:52:43  craptain is using qcoms
Aug 27 18:52:58  he has a working kernel but no touchscreen
Aug 27 18:53:07  still cleaning it up
Aug 27 18:53:20  he says it is gpu f/w issue, thomas says it is cypress
Aug 27 18:53:21  MrDiode…working kernel or working android (e.g boot into the ui)?
Aug 27 18:53:28  working android
Aug 27 18:53:29  I thought craptain gave up on the qcoms kernel
Aug 27 18:53:32  using his kernel
Aug 27 18:53:36  I dunno, all the videos of Android on TPs I've seen have seemed so laggy.
Aug 27 18:53:40  well this was as of 2a last night
Aug 27 18:53:43  he might have finally quit
Aug 27 18:53:44  He's still trying to solve the touchscreen issue afaik
Aug 27 18:53:44  lol
Aug 27 18:53:47  the touchscreen is by cypress the gpu is qcom's
Aug 27 18:53:48  I feel like if there's no dual boot option, I may even wait it out for an Android App Emulator for webOS.
Aug 27 18:54:03  youll be waiting a long time
Aug 27 18:54:06  hiho the sirana is back :D
Aug 27 18:54:07  shamash, once it's possible to boot android using an accessible method
Aug 27 18:54:14  I think it should be practical to make a dual boot
Aug 27 18:54:16  I don't care to much for dual boot
Aug 27 18:54:20  the issue is of switching over between OS
Aug 27 18:54:33  IMHO, rather than the technical issues of the multi boot
Aug 27 18:54:38  did i miss something the last hour?
Aug 27 18:54:41  well…so did anyone dare to flash the android roots?
Aug 27 18:54:43  Well, I'd like to think that there may even be the option of a Parallels type thing.
Aug 27 18:54:44  +f
Aug 27 18:54:56  Go to the top corner, "Switch to Android."  Top corner, "Switch to webOS."
Aug 27 18:54:58  Pulser: you working on multi uboot images?
Aug 27 18:55:04  Have them both loaded at the same time, but one being inactive.
Aug 27 18:55:09  rhcp, nope, but I am sure it's something that could be done
Aug 27 18:55:15  it is being done
Aug 27 18:55:18  thats why im asking
Aug 27 18:55:18  :)
Aug 27 18:55:19  the issue is, I've not got anything to start looking at
Aug 27 18:55:21  ahhh ok :)
Aug 27 18:55:23  I'm sure it would be possible with overclocked dual cores, but probably muchos battery draining.
Aug 27 18:55:24  would they both use the same kernel
Aug 27 18:55:25  get some help before buddy comes back
Aug 27 18:55:29  or remain separate
Aug 27 18:55:33  we need to adjust loading address and stuff
Aug 27 18:55:35  im not too sure how
Aug 27 18:55:39  its iffy
Aug 27 18:55:42  dont want to brick :)
Aug 27 18:55:43  if you can use the same kernel
Aug 27 18:55:47  to boot both webos and android
Aug 27 18:55:50  we can
Aug 27 18:55:51  then it SHOULD be possible
Aug 27 18:55:53  :)
Aug 27 18:55:55  its a .3c5 kernel isnt it
Aug 27 18:55:57  to switch from software
Aug 27 18:55:57  :)
Aug 27 18:55:58  ie.
Aug 27 18:56:01  .35**
Aug 27 18:56:03  put android in an .img
Aug 27 18:56:05  and do it "SD" style
Aug 27 18:56:09  just different proprietary files for each
Aug 27 18:56:13  Pulser: we are putting CWM inside the img
Aug 27 18:56:14  well in fact uBoot is simply the same as android boot.img
Aug 27 18:56:15  for now
Aug 27 18:56:17  SD style? like nook?
Aug 27 18:56:19  right
Aug 27 18:56:21  as a proof of concept
Aug 27 18:56:26  then work from there
Aug 27 18:56:29  well what I was thinking was that back in the days of the HD2 etc
Aug 27 18:56:29  kk
Aug 27 18:56:35  you could run an android build from an SD
Aug 27 18:56:37  HD2 was a whore
Aug 27 18:56:39  by mounting from the .img files
Aug 27 18:56:48  Pulser: yea this is from memory for now
Aug 27 18:56:52  then we can move to eemc
Aug 27 18:56:54  etc
Aug 27 18:56:58  oC
Aug 27 18:57:00  o/c*
Aug 27 18:57:03  dont want to brick :)
Aug 27 18:57:07  we need the +m iron fist
Aug 27 18:57:11  v true
Aug 27 18:57:15  and/or iron fisting
Aug 27 18:57:19  well, short of flashing to the boot area
Aug 27 18:57:22  I think you SHOULD be ok
Aug 27 18:57:24  hahaa
Aug 27 18:57:26  rhcp: is the android boot image currently being built from source?
Aug 27 18:57:28  we did flash the boot area
Aug 27 18:57:29  :)
Aug 27 18:57:32  the_palindrome: yes
Aug 27 18:57:32  lol
Aug 27 18:57:33  yeah
Aug 27 18:57:34  100% src
Aug 27 18:57:35  you CAN do it
Aug 27 18:57:38  if you are 100% sure
Aug 27 18:57:39  :P
Aug 27 18:57:43  do you have a way to TEST a boot image?
Aug 27 18:57:46  ie. chainload it?
Aug 27 18:57:51  yea
Aug 27 18:57:54  k
Aug 27 18:57:56  via bootie?
Aug 27 18:57:56  we are off on the addresses
Aug 27 18:57:57  :/
Aug 27 18:57:58  rhcp: is the source in git hub?
Aug 27 18:57:58  ye
Aug 27 18:57:59  p
Aug 27 18:58:03  oh right
Aug 27 18:58:07  spoken to rod?
Aug 27 18:58:10  which device target did you use? when building the aosp?
Aug 27 18:58:12  the_palindrome: the src is no place. till people start to share. is home im doing it
Aug 27 18:58:30  man i cant type for shit
Aug 27 18:58:33  sleep record
Aug 27 18:58:37  based sth off the qcom device defs or write hp/topaz/BoardConfig.mk from scratch
Aug 27 18:58:42  src is no place but my box. until people share.
Aug 27 18:58:47  thats where its going to stay
Aug 27 18:59:00  this is a collaberion last i checked
Aug 27 18:59:09  im collabing with people willing to share
Aug 27 18:59:25  so far i think its looking good:)
Aug 27 18:59:50  rhcp: which android kernel source did you use?
Aug 27 18:59:55  if you don't mind me asking
Aug 27 19:00:06  basic palm one
Aug 27 19:00:07  with mods
Aug 27 19:00:13  loading file '/boot/uImage-test1' to address 0x41000000
Aug 27 19:00:13  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000000
Aug 27 19:00:13  section len 3336220
Aug 27 19:00:13  section len 1271888
Aug 27 19:00:13  section len 0
Aug 27 19:00:15  section_start 0x4100004c
Aug 27 19:00:18  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x4100004c
Aug 27 19:00:20  section_start 0x4100004c
Aug 27 19:00:23  section_start 0x4132e868
Aug 27 19:00:25  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x4132e868
Aug 27 19:00:27  wtf... did i understand you here right, that android is working?
Aug 27 19:00:28  section_start 0x4132e868
Aug 27 19:00:30  section_start 0x414650b8
Aug 27 19:00:41  right now. we need to fix some addresses
Aug 27 19:00:46  that looks like bootie output ;)
Aug 27 19:00:46  it will go public here + twitter.
Aug 27 19:00:49  when done
Aug 27 19:00:50  what happens after that
Aug 27 19:00:50  it is
Aug 27 19:00:54  yeha
Aug 27 19:00:54  it booted :)
Aug 27 19:00:55  nice
Aug 27 19:00:59  hmm
Aug 27 19:01:00  rhcp: what version of android
Aug 27 19:01:02  froyo?
Aug 27 19:01:05  no android
Aug 27 19:01:08  so why do you need to adjust starting_adresses?
Aug 27 19:01:08  i told you already
Aug 27 19:01:12  we are testing cwm
Aug 27 19:01:15  as the ramfs
Aug 27 19:01:15  we can't extract an uImage ?
Aug 27 19:01:17  cwm?
Aug 27 19:01:19  ah
Aug 27 19:01:22  recovery
Aug 27 19:01:24  clock work a recovery
Aug 27 19:01:28  cwm is clockwork recovery
Aug 27 19:01:28  ah ok
Aug 27 19:01:28  which will give us adb
Aug 27 19:01:31  Flemmard…that's what I am currently trying
Aug 27 19:01:41  see image.h for the definition of the uBoot format
Aug 27 19:02:22  hm
Aug 27 19:02:28  I'd like to repackage the installer-ramdisk (which is proven to work) with my custom kernel as u-boot multi image
Aug 27 19:02:44  man mkimage
Aug 27 19:02:46  if that works…i'll see what else I can boot within my own ramdisk
Aug 27 19:02:47  what version of cwm? Are all the hardware drivers working properly.
Aug 27 19:02:47  and learn
Aug 27 19:04:36   So is webdoctor for touchpad like odin is for android phones?
Aug 27 19:04:55  it contains something very much like odin
Aug 27 19:05:30  thank god this device is bootie
Aug 27 19:05:37  it's a combination of novacom (which is used to communicate with novacomd or bootie on the device) and trenchchoat (which will parse an xml and partition/flash the device accordingly)
Aug 27 19:06:09  sweet odin kicks ass for recovering soft bricks
Aug 27 19:06:26  odin?
Aug 27 19:06:44  to facilitate that it memboots "novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage"
Aug 27 19:06:54  odin is samsung's flash tool
Aug 27 19:06:59  nothing android specific
Aug 27 19:07:21  heimdall and odin are great tools
Aug 27 19:07:35  i wish i had something to txt me from irssi
Aug 27 19:07:38  so i can go nap
Aug 27 19:07:52  so is touchpad pretty much impossible to brick with webdoctor?
Aug 27 19:08:01  I was wondering if heimdall could be adapted for this since its open source
Aug 27 19:08:14  i can think of a few ways to hard brick it
Aug 27 19:08:14  no it isn't
Aug 27 19:08:15  :)
Aug 27 19:08:28  if you kill of bootie you're probably out of luck
Aug 27 19:08:31  some guys report problems with webdoctor
Aug 27 19:08:39  hurtz777: it is
Aug 27 19:08:39  usererror
Aug 27 19:08:42  im gonna LOL if we end up flashing files via ODIN for the touchpad
Aug 27 19:08:44  but yeah user error
Aug 27 19:08:44  xD
Aug 27 19:08:46  i had same issue the day i got it
Aug 27 19:08:48  i used that shit for my SGS
Aug 27 19:08:50  i thought i was retarded
Aug 27 19:08:53  the older pre devices which were based of the omap cpu could be restored even if their boot loader was destroyed
Aug 27 19:08:56  rhcp: basically yeah, don't kill bootie
Aug 27 19:08:58  i forgot to install drivers for linux
Aug 27 19:09:02  destinal: :)
Aug 27 19:09:03  yes
Aug 27 19:09:04  we don't know if the apq8060 can do that too
Aug 27 19:09:09  rhcp: its just what i read in forums. im doing well with it
Aug 27 19:09:13  kill bootie or fuck with (buttons)
Aug 27 19:09:22  or you cant turn it off on
Aug 27 19:09:22  :P
Aug 27 19:09:47  rhcp: although I imagine qualcomm has some way to boot off USB and that HP would prefer to provision to bare flash like they did with pre / pre2  which were omap3 based
Aug 27 19:09:50  also if you have something you dont know n your ram image
Aug 27 19:09:54  you can hard brick too
Aug 27 19:10:04  we are booting off usb lol
Aug 27 19:10:06  :P
Aug 27 19:10:18  rhcp: without bootie
Aug 27 19:10:24  still can.
Aug 27 19:10:26  its in kernel
Aug 27 19:10:29  did you see?
Aug 27 19:10:36 * cypis is no longer away : Gone for 26 minutes 35 seconds
Aug 27 19:10:49  rhcp: uh, what kernel do you have on bare flash?
Aug 27 19:10:55  >flemmard do you mean it is impossible to brick?
Aug 27 19:11:04  destinal: what do you mean?
Aug 27 19:11:11  on my /boot
Aug 27 19:11:12  ?
Aug 27 19:11:23  rhcp: on omap3 you could boot the ti SoC with a totally empty flash over USB, no JTAG needed
Aug 27 19:11:29  I *imagine* QC has something similar
Aug 27 19:11:31  destinal: i know
Aug 27 19:11:31  :P
Aug 27 19:11:35  you can do it on here too
Aug 27 19:11:37  i think
Aug 27 19:11:41  from reading and looking at src
Aug 27 19:11:48  which src?
Aug 27 19:12:11  destinal: did you look at the config from the device?
Aug 27 19:12:15  look at usb booting
Aug 27 19:12:16  its in there
Aug 27 19:12:22  just disabled i think. we turned it on
Aug 27 19:12:27  Bomb
Aug 27 19:12:28  b
Aug 27 19:12:28  m
Aug 27 19:12:28  N
Aug 27 19:12:29  B
Aug 27 19:12:29  B
Aug 27 19:12:29  B
Aug 27 19:12:29  B
Aug 27 19:12:29  B
Aug 27 19:12:30  N
Aug 27 19:12:36  ..
Aug 27 19:12:41  Da fuck
Aug 27 19:12:57  arm…don't think any kernel flag can magically enable booting when you don't have a bl yet a kernel anymore
Aug 27 19:12:58  okay so i really can't gt to extract different images fron uboot lol;
Aug 27 19:13:18  Oops.....leaned on the keyboard
Aug 27 19:13:28  rhcp: hmm, will check it out
Aug 27 19:13:37  sexed up the keyboard lol
Aug 27 19:13:39  in that case you'd need some piece of code in the cpu's boot rom to facilitate usb booting
Aug 27 19:14:40  mauimauer: yeah I imagine this would be desirable from HP's perspective so they can initially provision and recover hardware without JTAG.  they did it on palm pre / pre2  (omap3) by the usb boot stuff on that SoC so I'm hoping something similar exists here
Aug 27 19:14:58  mauimauer: unfortunately qualcomm is notoriously stingy with releasing documentation to the public
Aug 27 19:15:29  well ti doesn't release too much either ;)
Aug 27 19:15:40  stumbled upon usb boot when reading up on the beagleboard
Aug 27 19:16:30  unfortunately we have to deal with the touchpad and not msm8660_surf
Aug 27 19:16:46  mauimauer: I just wish they'd gone omap4  :)
Aug 27 19:16:56  destinal: if it was omap
Aug 27 19:16:59  we'd be done by now
Aug 27 19:17:03  long time ago
Aug 27 19:17:07  heh yeah
Aug 27 19:17:15  cp nook-color touchpad
Aug 27 19:17:16  make
Aug 27 19:17:28  uh I wouldn't be so sure of that
Aug 27 19:17:34  moto used the omap ;)
Aug 27 19:17:53  you have heard of the omap HS mode, haven't you?
Aug 27 19:18:58  it would be easier at any rate, though,  there's always different onboard peripherals for power management, charging.  fuel gauge, LCD, touchscreen etc but it would be easier on omap4
Aug 27 19:19:39  HS mode is a bitch
Aug 27 19:21:34  i'd like if the touchpad had used tegra2 ;)
Aug 27 19:21:56  why
Aug 27 19:22:01  terga2 sux
Aug 27 19:22:03  Oh, I've got my touchpad on again
Aug 27 19:22:08  Nvflash is yo friend.
Aug 27 19:22:24  tegra2 is a value chipset
Aug 27 19:22:33  rhcp…you got a reason for that statement?
Aug 27 19:22:35  HP Website advises holding Home + Power, and that worked
Aug 27 19:22:39  yea its slow
Aug 27 19:22:41  (15 seconds)
Aug 27 19:22:42  i own a transformer
Aug 27 19:22:48  my tp is faster by far
Aug 27 19:22:57  so is my phone if you ask me
Aug 27 19:23:02  What does the touchpad use? Two Cortex A8's smashed together for teh lulz?
Aug 27 19:23:16  Ximon: what was the problem?
Aug 27 19:23:24  nvflash is ez to use though on the gtab
Aug 27 19:23:25  No it's a Snapdragon clocked at 1.2 GHz
Aug 27 19:23:30  he prob had the screen off
Aug 27 19:23:31  like i had
Aug 27 19:23:35  I thought i bricked last night
Aug 27 19:23:38  lack of sleep
Aug 27 19:23:44  k1l_, I had turned it off, and couldn't get it back on.
Aug 27 19:23:54  thats what i thought
Aug 27 19:23:55  everyone is saying that adreno 220 beats tegra 2
Aug 27 19:23:56  DarkRedFlame: so two cortex a8's smashed together for teh lulz
Aug 27 19:23:59  my backlit was just off
Aug 27 19:24:02  it went to sleep
Aug 27 19:24:41  I had tried holding the power button for quite a while
Aug 27 19:24:49  well if it beats the tegra 2 than it should be able to nativly play mkv stuff if/when stuff is ported
Aug 27 19:25:09  right now even xvids look bad
Aug 27 19:25:48  Wait till you get android on the touchpad to compare it to tegra2
Aug 27 19:26:07  Android is kind of slow compared to the other OSes
Aug 27 19:26:13  +1 Xavierdarkness :P
Aug 27 19:26:26  My 1ghz hummingbird cpu on samsung vibrant feels faster then tegra2 in grab.
Aug 27 19:26:36  single core
Aug 27 19:26:51  What are you basing your feeling off of? The launcher?
Aug 27 19:26:53  what about resolution
Aug 27 19:27:22  what about the hardware? LOL
Aug 27 19:27:55  gtab
Aug 27 19:27:56  By definition Cortex A9>A8
Aug 27 19:28:41  Cortex A15>A9>A8>A5
Aug 27 19:29:01  DarkRedFlame: name a device with A15 plox
Aug 27 19:29:16  BrighRedFlame: YEAH!
Aug 27 19:29:30  ST-Ericsson Nova A9600
Aug 27 19:29:38  Is it released?
Aug 27 19:29:47  Not yet
Aug 27 19:29:49  In the hands of consumers?
Aug 27 19:29:50  http://www.stericsson.com/home/NOVA.jsp
Aug 27 19:29:59  http://www.stericsson.com/press_releases/NovaThor.jsp
Aug 27 19:30:33  I have two computers set up in my office right now, that run on less than 5mhz apiece. I'm amused by this conversation. ;)
Aug 27 19:30:46  bbiab
Aug 27 19:30:53  im going to nap. I think we got the timezone room
Aug 27 19:30:54  err
Aug 27 19:30:55  wrong
Aug 27 19:31:04  he'll wake my ass
Aug 27 19:33:38  wahh nyancat kills my firefox :D
Aug 27 19:35:18  got my touchpad
Aug 27 19:35:21 * sCr|pTiC- updates
Aug 27 19:35:38  heavy little sucker
Aug 27 19:35:56  hahaha
Aug 27 19:36:10  can it be used as a weapon?
Aug 27 19:36:17  possibly
Aug 27 19:36:22  are you irc-ing on it now?
Aug 27 19:36:30  nope just powered it on.
Aug 27 19:36:36  must do updates :)
Aug 27 19:37:45  is it necessary to update webOS? mine bricked when I tried
Aug 27 19:38:09  suposedly some better performance with the newer os
Aug 27 19:39:59  I know mine is pretty snappy with 1.5ghz oc and muffled logging . . I'll try webOS update again
Aug 27 19:40:03  what is the newest os?
Aug 27 19:40:13  3.0.3
Aug 27 19:41:36  3.0.2, I thought,
Aug 27 19:41:55  I thought 3.0.2 as well
Aug 27 19:42:25  3.0.2 what?
Aug 27 19:43:29  build 68
Aug 27 19:44:02  ah
Aug 27 19:44:14  I guess mine did update.  doctor must have taken care of that when I recovered from bricking
Aug 27 19:44:54  how'd you brick ?
Aug 27 19:47:10  not sure . . had a few patches from preware installed and then tried to update to 3.0.2 manually. it bricked on the restart
Aug 27 19:49:02  damn
Aug 27 19:49:07  im puzzled with uboot .. dunno why
Aug 27 19:49:08  lol
Aug 27 19:49:19  redleader36: what's ur defintion of bricked ?
Aug 27 19:50:17  Brick should mean fucked up beyong repair. Notthing else.
Aug 27 19:50:45  I stand corrected,  mine just failed to boot, only showed the caution icon with the palm recovery url
Aug 27 19:50:55  oh okay
Aug 27 19:51:32 * sCr|pTiC- updates
Aug 27 19:51:37  installed preware :)
Aug 27 19:51:39 * sCr|pTiC- is loving this
Aug 27 19:57:19  Mhmmmm… gingerbread...
Aug 27 19:57:38  I can't believe it's not butter
Aug 27 19:58:48  customers: pics or it didn't happen
Aug 27 19:59:00  trshomers:
Aug 27 19:59:19  He could be talking about food
Aug 27 19:59:28  fk you tp
Aug 27 19:59:41  quit autocorrecting
Aug 27 20:00:41  fnj00 the autocorrecting is decent
Aug 27 20:00:47  it doesnt have a good dictionary though
Aug 27 20:02:07  fnj00-tab: Soon enough
Aug 27 20:03:08  so android running yet
Aug 27 20:03:13  ?
Aug 27 20:04:07  Hi
Aug 27 20:04:12  tbh post pics then update the channel. talk is cheap
Aug 27 20:04:42  pics of what ?
Aug 27 20:04:45  trsohmersdoesn't have gingerbread on his touchpad
Aug 27 20:07:39  Little less conversation, a little more action --Elvis Presley
Aug 27 20:09:15  trsohmers: do you still have the modifications you made to use metadoctor?
Aug 27 20:09:28  not looking for the modified zip file, just what you did
Aug 27 20:09:41  tmzt_: You mean from last weekend? Yea
Aug 27 20:09:58  Ask sCr|pTiC-
Aug 27 20:10:42  ?
Aug 27 20:10:42  I will put every dump image to my touchpad. do you guys think it will work or not?
Aug 27 20:10:51  tmzt_,
Aug 27 20:10:53  i have them
Aug 27 20:10:55  one se
Aug 27 20:11:28  rainlake: I would highly suggest against that
Aug 27 20:11:30  there ya go
Aug 27 20:11:31  i pm'd
Aug 27 20:11:34  rainlake: But you could try
Aug 27 20:11:55  worried too.
Aug 27 20:12:02  Xavierdarkness: the bootie recovery method is pretty nice though, haven't used nvflash but quite amazed at how open HP's hardware is, even on an msm chipset (used to those being really closed)
Aug 27 20:12:02  trsohmers, i could do the same thing as you image by applying preware patches right?
Aug 27 20:12:19  sCr|pTiC-: what are you saying exactly?
Aug 27 20:12:42  trsohmers: I might try dd them in ramdisk mode.
Aug 27 20:12:54  My image includes Preware, and an extra ext3 partition
Aug 27 20:12:59  is everything in touchpad stored in mmc0?
Aug 27 20:13:01  k
Aug 27 20:13:14  if it's not, this will brick it.
Aug 27 20:13:58  partitions over 14 are all filled with zeros
Aug 27 20:14:07  rainlake: You can try… webOS doctor can repair most bricks
Aug 27 20:14:23  I dont think doctor can repaire this brick.
Aug 27 20:14:57  rainlake, take it to a specialist then.
Aug 27 20:14:59  without bootie, doctor can do nothing
Aug 27 20:16:19  why new dumps missing partition 13?
Aug 27 20:16:48  because its userdata
Aug 27 20:16:53  it will be recreated on boot anyway
Aug 27 20:17:51  19:06 < mauimauer> to facilitate that it memboots "novacom boot mem:// < nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage"
Aug 27 20:18:05  somebody give me mkimage -l for that (you can even do it on the tp!)
Aug 27 20:18:07  I know this may be wrong, but couldn't you make a dump of webOS and just dd it back it you brick?
Aug 27 20:18:14  ?
Aug 27 20:19:01  dd bootie's partition and make a backup, and then use dd to flash
Aug 27 20:19:16  the only thing is that how would you access it to dd anything
Aug 27 20:19:30  since the only way you can flash is if you are in recovery
Aug 27 20:19:33  I think i know what I was doing wrong, if legacy uimages are just concatonated I should be able to build the load address into each and then pass it on the command line as initrd=0x03000000
Aug 27 20:20:13  rhcp: test1 worked??
Aug 27 20:20:21  or just to panic
Aug 27 20:21:59  to people looking for source, there's nothing to share yet
Aug 27 20:22:12  we are using linux 2.6.35 from linus's git with the tenderloin patch
Aug 27 20:22:40  the config from jb's uImage /proc/config.gz but only because it was convenient, it should work with tenderloin_defconfig
Aug 27 20:22:55  and the cwm initrd from the nook color thread on xda
Aug 27 20:26:08  irc on the touchpad is not to shabby
Aug 27 20:26:25  what client are you using?
Aug 27 20:26:41  its not that good either DarkRedFlame (wIRC)
Aug 27 20:26:54  just webclient for freenode
Aug 27 20:26:57  someone has a good link to start with mkimage and create like the nova-installer thing ?
Aug 27 20:27:10  i cant really figure out
Aug 27 20:27:47  DarkRedFlame: yeah that's what I'm using... It works good
Aug 27 20:28:11  can mkimage include ramdisks?
Aug 27 20:28:19  i just coded some bullshit
Aug 27 20:28:32  it's not what someone told me before?
Aug 27 20:28:47  oh no
Aug 27 20:28:48  ok
Aug 27 20:30:28  can someone tell me where to get the webos source for tp?
Aug 27 20:30:53  google
Aug 27 20:31:01  craptain: if you are making a uboot IMG you can
Aug 27 20:31:19  mkimage -A arm -O linux -T multi -d root.img.gz -d ./uImage:./root.img.gz toto.img
Aug 27 20:32:02  go craptain and rhcp!  thanks for your efforts.
Aug 27 20:32:12  cool
Aug 27 20:32:29  why two -d 's?
Aug 27 20:32:55  the_palindrome: you can't
Aug 27 20:33:18  tmzt_: I can't what
Aug 27 20:33:26  have the source?
Aug 27 20:33:47  yeah, webOS is closed
Aug 27 20:33:55  preware and optware are open
Aug 27 20:34:03  and there are patches for the javascript stuff in webOS there
Aug 27 20:34:16  right
Aug 27 20:34:18  sorry
Aug 27 20:34:22  how is the input driven inside webOS?
Aug 27 20:34:34  gandhijee_: in what sense?
Aug 27 20:34:37  i can't seem to get a straight answer out of the webos-internals guys
Aug 27 20:34:54  Hey
Aug 27 20:34:57  tmzt_: like say i wanted to and *another* input device (ie mouse)
Aug 27 20:35:30  is it possible to hack at some part of webOS to recognize the mouse
Aug 27 20:38:12  gandhijee_: there's something called hidd but it's closed (and it's not the bluez hidd)
Aug 27 20:38:21  it should be possible but I don't know how to do it
Aug 27 20:38:49  you could also try uinput but since your mouse isn't a touchscreen it probably won't work (relative vs. absolute)
Aug 27 20:38:56  tmzt_: does that help control the touch screen as well
Aug 27 20:39:06  whats uinput??
Aug 27 20:39:26  the other thing you could do is modify the X server to read from your mouse, but that would only work in X apps
Aug 27 20:39:47  it's a method of sending input data from a userland daemon to the kernel and having it appear as an input device
Aug 27 20:40:02  interesting
Aug 27 20:40:13  so webOS uses a std X server?
Aug 27 20:40:17  or you could wait for nativex if that happens
Aug 27 20:40:23  shouldnt you be able to use a keyboard over wifi for the touchpad?
Aug 27 20:40:39  no, but there are people running X applications on it using an X server created by dtzWill,etc.
Aug 27 20:40:49  tmzt_ well poo.
Aug 27 20:40:51  over wifi? bluetooth maybe
Aug 27 20:40:53  and also, do i need to enter developer mode to use novaterm to connect to the touchpad devices
Aug 27 20:41:08  not sure really, ask in internals
Aug 27 20:41:11  ok
Aug 27 20:41:13  or read their wiki
Aug 27 20:41:29  well they say you do, but i can connect to mine with out enter developer mode...
Aug 27 20:41:34  tmzt_ i dont have a bt kb but there is an app for android which allows you to use your phone kb as a kb on a bluetooth device
Aug 27 20:41:39  unless once you turn it on it says on until you turn it off
Aug 27 20:41:40  needless to say it wouldnt connect
Aug 27 20:41:56  gandhijee_ it stays on
Aug 27 20:42:13  well maybe not in your case via novaterm?
Aug 27 20:42:27  evulhotdog: interesting could have used that before
Aug 27 20:42:34  no it seems to say even through reboots
Aug 27 20:42:45  so i was just wondering what was happening ...
Aug 27 20:43:04  tmzt_ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=664535
Aug 27 20:49:49  fedex just dropped my TP
Aug 27 20:49:56  dropped off?
Aug 27 20:49:56  cant get past the initial setup :O
Aug 27 20:49:58  or dropped
Aug 27 20:50:03  billybob_ what happened?
Aug 27 20:50:20  when it gets to terms and conditions it just spins and then times out
Aug 27 20:50:30  says cant contact PALM website blah blah blah
Aug 27 20:50:53  billybob_ might be alot of traffic
Aug 27 20:50:54  or
Aug 27 20:51:01  are you connected to wifi?
Aug 27 20:51:21  iyeah
Aug 27 20:54:33  just try again. maybe its just some temp traffic issue or some routing issue
Aug 27 20:54:58  or u got a bad touchpad.. ;)
Aug 27 20:56:11  billybob: you could use doctor to restore it if that's what it comes to lol
Aug 27 21:02:03  there it goes
Aug 27 21:02:07  now she works
Aug 27 21:02:10  woot
Aug 27 21:02:27  now...where is this "phone" app so i can disable logging..
Aug 27 21:02:48  already given your touchpad a girls name? ;)
Aug 27 21:03:04  it's only a girl for now it seems
Aug 27 21:03:09  maybe call her sarah?
Aug 27 21:03:23  lol
Aug 27 21:03:29  where is the phone app ?
Aug 27 21:03:37  there is no phone
Aug 27 21:03:48  just use the preware patch to turn down logging
Aug 27 21:04:05  need skype for dial or you take the options way
Aug 27 21:05:17  http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html
Aug 27 21:05:32  there is another way explained
Aug 27 21:05:48  besides other good stuff
Aug 27 21:06:07  no boot
Aug 27 21:06:08  damn
Aug 27 21:06:09  lol
Aug 27 21:11:25  omg flemmard?
Aug 27 21:11:58  whaT?
Aug 27 21:12:04  no i havent bricked another
Aug 27 21:12:05  ^^
Aug 27 21:12:10  hahaha
Aug 27 21:12:18  just happy to see a virtuousdev here
Aug 27 21:14:17  bb
Aug 27 21:14:19  hey
Aug 27 21:18:26  mputtr who would that be :O
Aug 27 21:19:22  i was wonderingif anyone know how to get to the touchpad console, ttyS0 i guess
Aug 27 21:19:29  am trying to debug a kernel
Aug 27 21:19:31  hrm?
Aug 27 21:23:37 * BatNode is afk - Going to the beach
Aug 27 21:28:26  hk135: do you have serial?
Aug 27 21:28:54  tmtz@root:~/dr/webos-resources$ file initrd.img
Aug 27 21:28:54  initrd.img: u-boot legacy uImage, ramdisk, Linux/ARM, RAMDisk Image (Not compressed), 11340355 bytes, Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969, Load Address: 0x00000000, Entry Point: 0x00000000, Header CRC: 0xDEC65F8C, Data CRC: 0x7A243E22
Aug 27 21:28:56  is there a guide to opening up a touchpad to get access to serial setc?
Aug 27 21:28:59  tmtz@root:~/dr/webos-resources$ mkimage -l initrd.img
Aug 27 21:29:01  Image Name:   ramdisk
Aug 27 21:29:03  tmzt_: how do you mean? i have a usb connection, i can alos get a seril port
Aug 27 21:29:04  Created:      Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969
Aug 27 21:29:06  Image Type:   ARM Linux RAMDisk Image (uncompressed)
Aug 27 21:29:09  Data Size:    11340355 Bytes = 11074.57 kB = 10.82 MB
Aug 27 21:29:11  Load Address: 00000000
Aug 27 21:29:14  Entry Point:  00000000
Aug 27 21:29:15  hk135: I'm trying to make usb gadget serial work
Aug 27 21:29:17  got it, the initrd has to be a uImage too
Aug 27 21:29:19  one of things I'm working on
Aug 27 21:29:24  if it works I'll let you know
Aug 27 21:29:41  gandhijee_: there were people working that, they foudn the pinouts
Aug 27 21:29:56  tmzt_: im doing a similar thing to you, but my uimage doesnt boot
Aug 27 21:30:21  tmzt_: is that on the wiki?
Aug 27 21:30:38  hk135: did you change the command line in .config and force it?
Aug 27 21:30:48  or use a shim like rwhitby suggested
Aug 27 21:31:18  i know it's a dumb question to ask…but how does the kernel pass over to init.rc or whatever you're wanting to run after the kernel has done booting?
Aug 27 21:31:24  tmzt_: no i didn't
Aug 27 21:31:35  mauimauer: it passes control to the init process which loads initr.rc
Aug 27 21:31:37  init.rc
Aug 27 21:31:40  tmzt_: will havea lookie
Aug 27 21:31:52  is there a stable build of android yet for TP?
Aug 27 21:32:18  kozmoh8: there isn't evne a build yet
Aug 27 21:32:28  ok
Aug 27 21:32:30  thanks!
Aug 27 21:32:33  wer are working on getting a recovery booting now
Aug 27 21:32:49  ok sweet, just fishing for news!
Aug 27 21:32:53  does the codeaurora repo compile?
Aug 27 21:33:15  I don't know, I'm using tenderloin on 2.6.35
Aug 27 21:33:23  is there a place to get those sources for that android?
Aug 27 21:33:29  hmmm…i am poking around the nova-installer image. unzipped the ramdisk and mounted it…that thing doesn't seem to have a init.rc
Aug 27 21:33:42  mauimauer: because it' snot android based
Aug 27 21:33:58  look at init, is it a shell script?
Aug 27 21:34:16  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x413026a4
Aug 27 21:34:17  section_start 0x413026a4
Aug 27 21:34:17  section_start 0x4135f920
Aug 27 21:34:19  stuck here
Aug 27 21:34:19  hm
Aug 27 21:34:32  my kernel should be shitty :)
Aug 27 21:34:50  well there is a script called miniboot.sh
Aug 27 21:35:07  so multiboot legacy uImages are images containing multiple uImages
Aug 27 21:35:19  but I just want to figure out what the kernel calls when it's done booting. is that hardcoded in the kernel build?
Aug 27 21:35:25  Flemmard: I'm working on that now
Aug 27 21:35:33  it seems that both kernel and initrd have to a uIImage
Aug 27 21:35:34  uImage
Aug 27 21:35:39  with no load address
Aug 27 21:35:51  hm
Aug 27 21:35:52  mauimauer: the kernel calls /init if you use an initramfs
Aug 27 21:35:58  yeah that both should be uimage i figured out
Aug 27 21:36:00  or /sbin/init if it's mounted root normally
Aug 27 21:36:04  by watching a nova-crap
Aug 27 21:36:12  but the uImage within the ramdisk is no multi-file image
Aug 27 21:36:14  ramdisk 0x00
Aug 27 21:36:16  it's just the kernel...again
Aug 27 21:36:19  and kernel 0x40208000
Aug 27 21:36:20  I'm checking if the main uImage has a load address
Aug 27 21:36:28  and main 0x00
Aug 27 21:36:42  (according to nova-installer..uImage)
Aug 27 21:37:02  root@lightning-vm:~/touchpad/u-extract/temp/mo/boot# mkimage -l uImage
Aug 27 21:37:02  Image Name:   Linux-2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
Aug 27 21:37:10  Load Address: 40208000
Aug 27 21:37:10  Entry Point:  40208000
Aug 27 21:37:26  that's the uImage within the ramdisk
Aug 27 21:37:35  yes
Aug 27 21:37:54  mauimauer: the one in the uImage is used to install the final webOS install
Aug 27 21:38:09  it wouldn't need an initrd, it has root=/dev/mmcblk0pXX
Aug 27 21:38:19  that wasn't what I'm asking
Aug 27 21:38:31  but waot
Aug 27 21:38:36  ramdisk does contain another uImage
Aug 27 21:38:37  tmtz@root:~/dr/webos-resources$ dd if=nova-installer-image-topaz.uImage bs=1 skip=64 count=3333228 of=kernel.uImage
Aug 27 21:38:43  right
Aug 27 21:38:47  but not what I mean
Aug 27 21:38:48  Oo
Aug 27 21:39:06  so we have a uImage, with a kernel and a ramdisk, and in the ramdisk, another kernel
Aug 27 21:39:09  afaik bootie overrides the root= if it detects a ramdisk in the uImage
Aug 27 21:39:10  that's quite .. original
Aug 27 21:39:33  0000000: 2705 1956 7de8 c8d4 0000 0000 00df e6fb  '..V}...........
Aug 27 21:39:33  0000010: 0000 0000 0000 0000 7615 1e7e 0502 0400  ........v..~....
Aug 27 21:39:33  0000020: 6e6f 7661 2d69 6e73 7461 6c6c 6572 2d69  nova-installer-i
Aug 27 21:39:33  0000030: 6d61 6765 2d74 6f70 617a 2d34 3939 3235  mage-topaz-49925
Aug 27 21:39:33  0000040: 0032 dc6c 00ad 0a83 0000 0000 2705 1956  .2.l........'..V
Aug 27 21:39:43  there's a webos-internals article describing membooting that image to repair a corrupt internal disk
Aug 27 21:39:47  tmzt_
Aug 27 21:39:49  mauimauer: it builds the cmdline itself so that makes sense
Aug 27 21:40:09  mauimauer: we are booting a custom ramdisk, not Palm's
Aug 27 21:40:15  what article?
Aug 27 21:40:19  dd if=nova-.... of=blabla skip= yeah…the doctor memboots that image, and launches trenchcoat to flash the final image
Aug 27 21:40:23  and you'll have your gzipped ramdisk
Aug 27 21:40:28  mauimauer: in bootie there is a second envvar called bootargs-ramdisk
Aug 27 21:40:35  tmzt_: the file you pasted is a. gz
Aug 27 21:40:40  nova-installer-image.. is the name
Aug 27 21:40:53  how do you know it's a gz?
Aug 27 21:40:59  magic bytes?
Aug 27 21:41:04  because i extracted it some minutes ago :)
Aug 27 21:41:05  right, what are they
Aug 27 21:41:12  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Memboot i used this to memboot just a new kernel
Aug 27 21:41:27  the ramdisk is gripped so the magic bytes are 1f 8b
Aug 27 21:41:36  okay
Aug 27 21:41:43  tmzt_: theres some bytes of crap before
Aug 27 21:41:47  I'm trying to use a cpio.gz as the ramdisk
Aug 27 21:41:51  unzip it…and then mount via -o loop -t ext2
Aug 27 21:42:00  but this is the kernel
Aug 27 21:42:07  '..v is the start of the kernel uImage
Aug 27 21:42:23  ok…didn't look at the kernel yet ;)
Aug 27 21:42:41  I'm checking the load addresses
Aug 27 21:42:47  but it seems their ramdisk is not cpio'ed
Aug 27 21:43:01  Image Name: ramdisk
Aug 27 21:43:01  Created: Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970
Aug 27 21:43:01  Image Type: ARM Linux RAMDisk Image (uncompressed)
Aug 27 21:43:01  Data Size: 11340355 Bytes = 11074.57 kB = 10.82 MB
Aug 27 21:43:01  Load Address: 0x00000000
Aug 27 21:43:02  Entry Point: 0x00000000
Aug 27 21:43:31  bah power outage, and the ups didn't kick over fast enough
Aug 27 21:43:36  hows progress going guys?  i dont understand a thing you're talking about right now
Aug 27 21:43:47  mauimauer: nope, they are using ext2.gz
Aug 27 21:43:54  hyperion: learn :)
Aug 27 21:43:56  yup
Aug 27 21:44:06  i am browsing it right now ;)
Aug 27 21:44:11  Flemmard: can you get the load address of the kernel uimage?
Aug 27 21:44:13  question
Aug 27 21:44:15  or give me the damn offset
Aug 27 21:44:15  tmzt_, im starting school on tuesday ;)
Aug 27 21:44:18  rz950: ask
Aug 27 21:44:23  and I was right.../sbin/init passes over to /etc/miniboot.sh
Aug 27 21:44:33  how did you guys get adb working with bootie?
Aug 27 21:44:34  nobody has tried to build a recovery image or even boot the recovery image?
Aug 27 21:44:39  tmzt_: kernel is 0x40208000
Aug 27 21:44:49  that's what I got too
Aug 27 21:44:59  looks like it's 76
Aug 27 21:45:02  okay
Aug 27 21:45:07  then this should work
Aug 27 21:45:30  mage Name:   Linux-2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
Aug 27 21:45:30  Created:      Sat Aug 27 04:14:42 2011
Aug 27 21:45:30  Image Type:   ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
Aug 27 21:45:30  Data Size:    3336156 Bytes = 3257.96 kB = 3.18 MB
Aug 27 21:45:30  Load Address: 40208000
Aug 27 21:45:32  Entry Point:  40208000
Aug 27 21:45:35  built from source
Aug 27 21:45:37  we shall find out :)
Aug 27 21:46:11  so you're currently putting together a new uImage with a custom kernel and cwm put into ext2.gz?
Aug 27 21:46:20  and testing it via mem:// boot?
Aug 27 21:46:39  should it be -T ramdisk or just the name?
Aug 27 21:47:11  ramdisk tmzt_
Aug 27 21:47:12  well
Aug 27 21:47:15  So, adb is working and you're working on clockwork mod now? Awesome. :)
Aug 27 21:47:15  first image -T kernel
Aug 27 21:47:17  second -T ramdisk
Aug 27 21:47:20  okay
Aug 27 21:47:22  and global, -T multi
Aug 27 21:47:35  sounds about right ;)
Aug 27 21:47:47  we'll build a script once this works
Aug 27 21:47:59  jf316 yo
Aug 27 21:48:12  do you know cwm? I'm just concentrating on the ramdisk part
Aug 27 21:48:20  we'll need to teach it about lvm
Aug 27 21:48:37  for instance, building lvm tools against bionic (yuck)
Aug 27 21:48:40  can't we get rid off lvm in the final stages?
Aug 27 21:48:47  I wouldn't
Aug 27 21:48:51  tmzt_: lets just see if it boots first :)
Aug 27 21:48:58  and people still want dual booting
Aug 27 21:48:58  before going that far
Aug 27 21:49:04  okay
Aug 27 21:49:12  Not development wise. I've helped in the htc-linux HD2 scene, mostly just helping noobs get stuff set up.
Aug 27 21:49:48  is it just the def. 2.6.35 tenderloin kernel, or did ya already add stuff to it?
Aug 27 21:50:47  out if interest does anyone know where to get the .config for a current webos kernel
Aug 27 21:50:54  mauimauer: tenderloin
Aug 27 21:51:07  hk135 /proc/config.gz
Aug 27 21:51:08  hk135: cat /proc/config.gz
Aug 27 21:51:11  zcat
Aug 27 21:51:13  yeah
Aug 27 21:51:31  tmzt_: yes, thanks
Aug 27 21:51:32  mauimauer: I enabled a few things in .config and forced the cmdline
Aug 27 21:51:35  screw dual boot
Aug 27 21:51:47  good..that should be enough for now ;)
Aug 27 21:51:57  rhcp: ready to boot?
Aug 27 21:52:01  want bootie?
Aug 27 21:52:05  yep
Aug 27 21:52:07  k
Aug 27 21:52:42  add the path
Aug 27 21:53:06  btw…what did you do to force the cmdline?
Aug 27 21:53:12  i am kinda intrigued by that ;)
Aug 27 21:53:24  mauimauer: edit the CMDLINE option in .config and set the FORCE one beneath it
Aug 27 21:53:31  tmzt_: bootie is up
Aug 27 21:53:33  d'oh
Aug 27 21:53:38  ;)
Aug 27 21:55:11  rhcp: what's it doing?
Aug 27 21:55:27  stuck at HP logo
Aug 27 21:55:36  hmm
Aug 27 21:55:44  we'll have to find a way to get output
Aug 27 21:56:01  rhcp…it should boot right back to webs in a few mins
Aug 27 21:56:02  put it on flash
Aug 27 21:56:14  and use that fboot method
Aug 27 21:56:15  to get output
Aug 27 21:56:23  right
Aug 27 21:56:24  ok
Aug 27 21:56:28  :)
Aug 27 21:56:40  uh we are still in bootie
Aug 27 21:56:42  what's going on
Aug 27 21:56:51  its just sitting
Aug 27 21:57:06  nova com has not disconnected?
Aug 27 21:57:11  i guess i shall reboot it
Aug 27 21:57:11  it didn't
Aug 27 21:57:13  to bootie
Aug 27 21:57:14  no
Aug 27 21:57:19  I just booted to webos
Aug 27 21:57:27  ah yes
Aug 27 21:57:30  i see it doing something now
Aug 27 21:57:34  that's what it did when I tried to boot a uImage with just the kernel
Aug 27 21:57:43  now how do you scp?
Aug 27 21:57:49  it's on wifi?
Aug 27 21:57:53  yea hold on
Aug 27 21:57:55  term
Aug 27 21:58:17  nova term should not work anymore once it booted to webos after a failed memboot
Aug 27 21:58:36  at least that's what happens when I do that...
Aug 27 22:00:00  wow lot of ppl here
Aug 27 22:00:06  reboot it to bootie
Aug 27 22:00:12  k
Aug 27 22:00:20  anyone know how to get lvm working
Aug 27 22:00:22  in android
Aug 27 22:00:32  craptain: build it for bionic
Aug 27 22:00:38  tmzt_: bootie
Aug 27 22:00:48  i even have a statically linked binary
Aug 27 22:00:50  craptain: we are working on a cwm-based recovery that boots via novacom boot mem:// right now
Aug 27 22:01:07  you'll have to mknod the nodes unless you patch init to do it
Aug 27 22:01:13  or do it in init.rc
Aug 27 22:01:16 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes
Aug 27 22:01:58  are there other android devices using lvm?
Aug 27 22:02:02  for reference
Aug 27 22:02:07  not that I know of
Aug 27 22:02:12  they use dm but not lvm
Aug 27 22:02:36  well let's hope all android cares about is it's mount points…not how they get there ;)
Aug 27 22:02:41  tmzt_: a ! with pal.com/ROM
Aug 27 22:02:42  :)
Aug 27 22:02:45 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 16 minutes 29 seconds
Aug 27 22:02:59  why isn't it booting
Aug 27 22:03:04  what does that mean?
Aug 27 22:03:14  bootie is still talking
Aug 27 22:03:16  nfi
Aug 27 22:03:22  if it wasn't for that dam'n hp logo above it all
Aug 27 22:03:28  yes but the device is at !
Aug 27 22:03:33  www.palmos.com/ROM
Aug 27 22:03:43  I don't know where that comes from
Aug 27 22:03:47  so I don't know what it means
Aug 27 22:03:54  did you use the original ramdisk?
Aug 27 22:04:06  or did you already pack your cwm stuff?
Aug 27 22:04:07  ] fsboot
Aug 27 22:04:07  loading file '/boot/ncboot.uImage' to address 0x41000000
Aug 27 22:04:08  parse_uimage:238: uimage 0x41000000
Aug 27 22:04:16  mauimauer: I used the nook color cwm
Aug 27 22:04:28  ok…that doesn't explain the !
Aug 27 22:04:30  see if you can rebuild trenchcoat
Aug 27 22:07:18  hi BurninTrees
Aug 27 22:07:19  err
Aug 27 22:07:21  hi Bumble-Bee
Aug 27 22:07:40  tmzt_: we are still sitting at !
Aug 27 22:07:52  well, everyone who ordered with AskTP/AIC Inc just got screwed.
Aug 27 22:07:56  sup rhcp
Aug 27 22:08:19  nm krylon360
Aug 27 22:08:21  moving along
Aug 27 22:08:32  reset it
Aug 27 22:08:37  wait
Aug 27 22:08:39  i saw
Aug 27 22:08:55  it doesn't like my uImage
Aug 27 22:09:29  tmzt_: im in webos
Aug 27 22:09:42  let's try an unmodified tenderloin kernel
Aug 27 22:09:50  just to verify we're putting them together correctly
Aug 27 22:09:58  sure
Aug 27 22:10:03  see if you can rebuild trenchcoat
Aug 27 22:10:42  webos is nice
Aug 27 22:10:50  just needs some android apps
Aug 27 22:10:50  lol
Aug 27 22:11:39  maybe it will get them now
Aug 27 22:12:02  them meaning native apps that happen to be compiled for android, like most of the games are
Aug 27 22:12:14  Does your entire team have touchpads at the moment?
Aug 27 22:12:16  they can be built against libsdl+gles2 just as well
Aug 27 22:12:24  siestacat: no, I'm using rhcp's remotely
Aug 27 22:12:28  siestacat: the whole chan is the team
Aug 27 22:12:29  :P
Aug 27 22:12:33  tmzt_: doesnt have his own
Aug 27 22:12:39  hes in with me
Aug 27 22:12:40  team/channel == channel/team
Aug 27 22:12:42  rhcp : ok
Aug 27 22:12:58  tmzt_:  and I spoke. too many good people here. let all talk
Aug 27 22:13:01  its been doing well
Aug 27 22:13:07  the project?
Aug 27 22:13:28  we are making progress
Aug 27 22:13:29  btw…did you use the tenderloin_defconfig or an config.gz actually pulled from a device
Aug 27 22:13:43  might be quikcker with some of the original contributions being made public
Aug 27 22:13:48  like trsohmers's doctor stuff
Aug 27 22:13:51  would be helpful
Aug 27 22:13:53  i could try to see if the installer kernel uses the same config
Aug 27 22:13:58  mauimauer: jb's config.gz
Aug 27 22:14:05  tmzt_: Did sCr|pTiC- send you the stuff?
Aug 27 22:14:14  yeah
Aug 27 22:14:16  is the xml in there?
Aug 27 22:14:33  tmzt_: installer.xml?
Aug 27 22:14:37  or what?
Aug 27 22:14:38  right
Aug 27 22:14:39  I have it
Aug 27 22:14:42  I believe so
Aug 27 22:14:53  to add a system and data lvm partition
Aug 27 22:14:55  I have a doctored device with an ext3fs partition running ubuntu chroot. If you need someone to brick they're device, let me know.
Aug 27 22:15:20  I don't belive these are brickable unless you flash over the firmware
Aug 27 22:15:27  siestacat: I would love to brick your device!
Aug 27 22:15:30  OK not really
Aug 27 22:15:32  bootie is a robust recovery method
Aug 27 22:15:38  But I may have some stuff to test in a little bit
Aug 27 22:15:39  if you don't erase it ;)
Aug 27 22:15:44  tmzt_: you mean as long as you dont overwrite bootie
Aug 27 22:15:45  even better when we can boot atribtrary kernel+initrd
Aug 27 22:15:46  :P
Aug 27 22:16:01  yeah tmzt_ it's nice
Aug 27 22:16:01  right, but msm rom loader is there
Aug 27 22:16:05  and probably not sboot'd
Aug 27 22:16:13  will recovery mode no die horribly if you wipe the mmc
Aug 27 22:16:15  or get into a siation where the buttons wont work
Aug 27 22:16:21  and you need open the device to pull the battery
Aug 27 22:16:22  :)
Aug 27 22:16:26  so msm actually HAS a failsafe in the bootrom?
Aug 27 22:16:38  but we won't have the msm modem firmware which is actually used here even if there's no modem
Aug 27 22:16:42  at least the adsp is
Aug 27 22:16:46  you can chainboot a new bootloader without overwriting bootie if i'm not mistaken
Aug 27 22:16:47  (a6)
Aug 27 22:16:51  mauimauer: probably
Aug 27 22:17:11  aikiwoce_: do you know a full uboot for this device?
Aug 27 22:17:19  good to know…kinda liked that about the omap platform, even all that stuff was disabled on my darn hs milestone
Aug 27 22:17:35  uname -a
Aug 27 22:17:38  i think if you build the codeaurora repo it has one
Aug 27 22:17:38  opss, sry
Aug 27 22:17:45  for the dev platform this is based on
Aug 27 22:17:49  any updates ?
Aug 27 22:18:14  mauimauer: get anywhere?
Aug 27 22:18:17  Sorrowuk: Soon :)
Aug 27 22:18:32  i was talking to pulser last night and we were going to try to boot the kernel he compiled
Aug 27 22:18:33  huh?
Aug 27 22:18:46  mauimauer: with uImage
Aug 27 22:18:48  but he showed a directory listing he had with an emmc file
Aug 27 22:18:58  not yet..I am rebuilding a kernel right now
Aug 27 22:19:01  that i assume he built from codeaurora's repo
Aug 27 22:19:03  ok
Aug 27 22:19:09  with basically no modifications
Aug 27 22:19:16  let me see if I can rebuild trenchcoat
Aug 27 22:19:17  just changed the hostname of the ramdisk
Aug 27 22:19:26  so i can see if i actually suceed
Aug 27 22:19:30  what will happen if I boot trenchcoat without webdoctor?
Aug 27 22:19:31  niggs
Aug 27 22:19:57  tmzt_: why does ours say .gz as part of the name
Aug 27 22:19:58  mauimauer: you are using palm's ramdisk?
Aug 27 22:19:59  the other doesnt?
Aug 27 22:20:03  rhcp: what name?
Aug 27 22:20:06  tmzt_ yup
Aug 27 22:20:14  Image Type:   ARM Linux Multi-File Image (gzip compressed)
Aug 27 22:20:19  the other doesnt say this
Aug 27 22:20:20  afaik
Aug 27 22:20:20  oh
Aug 27 22:20:22  crap
Aug 27 22:20:24  tahnks
Aug 27 22:20:26  it has to be uncompressed
Aug 27 22:20:26  np
Aug 27 22:20:29  -C none
Aug 27 22:20:34  ;)
Aug 27 22:20:38  rememr i notice things
Aug 27 22:20:41  so we didn't fail ;)
Aug 27 22:20:55  at least not in the way we thought
Aug 27 22:21:56  excuse my ignorance but can't you just compile uboot from http://opensource.palm.com/3.0.2/index.html
Aug 27 22:22:04  we have
Aug 27 22:22:10  k
Aug 27 22:22:13  thats our base
Aug 27 22:22:16  right now
Aug 27 22:22:18  with a few mods
Aug 27 22:23:14  ok .. how to get lvm mounted ..
Aug 27 22:23:16  ehe ..
Aug 27 22:24:00  OK i just booted the ramdisk to the gigabarrier
Aug 27 22:24:16  nice
Aug 27 22:24:21  check miniboot.sh in /etc
Aug 27 22:25:25  How do I abort the systems redundancy check subroutines?
Aug 27 22:26:07  u tnink just adding the corresponding mknod should work ?
Aug 27 22:26:10  I've tried reversing polarity...
Aug 27 22:26:23  no effect
Aug 27 22:26:31  rhcp: yeah bootie :)
Aug 27 22:26:58  So, are you guys not using the froyo rom dump? Everything I've seen so far seems like it's from scratch.
Aug 27 22:27:22  JesusFreak316: we are testing some basics
Aug 27 22:27:22  bootie
Aug 27 22:27:30  no roms
Aug 27 22:27:31  no imgs
Aug 27 22:27:32  no nada
Aug 27 22:27:39  HOLLY SHIT
Aug 27 22:27:41  tmzt_: CWM
Aug 27 22:27:51  its fucked up
Aug 27 22:27:51  i hope you're not kidding
Aug 27 22:27:51  Ok, just wondering.
Aug 27 22:27:52  but still
Aug 27 22:27:53  taht was easy
Aug 27 22:27:55  oh i am not
Aug 27 22:27:56  hold on
Aug 27 22:28:05  what do you see?
Aug 27 22:28:13  it won't fit the screen
Aug 27 22:28:25  and pixelflinger won't like palms fbdev
Aug 27 22:28:52  replug the usb
Aug 27 22:28:55  so it's the stock nook cwm
Aug 27 22:29:02  yep
Aug 27 22:29:15  are you two in a video or something?
Aug 27 22:29:33  so we know that those uImage sandwiches do boot via mem:// ;)
Aug 27 22:29:33  yeah skype this I want to see :0
Aug 27 22:29:36  yay!
Aug 27 22:29:44  tmzt_: no video tbh
Aug 27 22:29:54  take a pic ;)
Aug 27 22:29:55  mauimauer: did you override the cmdline?
Aug 27 22:29:59  i can video it with my phone
Aug 27 22:30:10  it looks corrupted?
Aug 27 22:30:15  yea
Aug 27 22:30:16  bad
Aug 27 22:30:18  replug the usb?
Aug 27 22:30:19  tmzt…i am making my way trough the kernel conf (i'm a menuconfig guy)
Aug 27 22:30:23  where is that?
Aug 27 22:30:31  mauimauer: I was it's slow and boring now though
Aug 27 22:30:33  k
Aug 27 22:30:34  replued
Aug 27 22:30:35  just edit .config and make oldconfig
Aug 27 22:30:37  pluged
Aug 27 22:31:06  empty storage gadget it looks like
Aug 27 22:31:10  I've got to fix my config
Aug 27 22:31:15  anybody have a good g_adb?
Aug 27 22:32:00  I assume /dev/sdh is no medium found
Aug 27 22:32:05  https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Photos/Merc_C_class/IMG_20110827_182506.jpg?w=10656fd7
Aug 27 22:32:17  love the nick
Aug 27 22:32:50  um you need the public url
Aug 27 22:33:18  anyone have an ipk for armageddon squadron
Aug 27 22:33:27  grandy: that's not on topic here
Aug 27 22:33:32  assuming it's a paid application
Aug 27 22:33:37  :/
Aug 27 22:33:52  http://mrcellphoneunlocker.com/IMG_20110827_182506.jpg
Aug 27 22:33:57  tmzt_ maybe I am just dumb…but i can't find that cmdline part in the .config
Aug 27 22:34:14  OH NIPS
Aug 27 22:34:19  :)
Aug 27 22:34:21  whoa that's fucked up ;)
Aug 27 22:34:40  CONFIG_CMDLINE
Aug 27 22:34:47  tmzt_: the buttons work
Aug 27 22:34:49  im scared
Aug 27 22:34:51  CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE=y
Aug 27 22:34:55  rhcp: yeah, gpio keys
Aug 27 22:35:00  how the fuck do we reboot this fucker
Aug 27 22:35:02  i cant see shit
Aug 27 22:35:04  i dont want to wipe
Aug 27 22:35:05  lol
Aug 27 22:35:13  why would you need to wipe?
Aug 27 22:35:14  my luck it will wipe bootie
Aug 27 22:35:17  i cant see!
Aug 27 22:35:19  tmzt_: any chance i could grab a copy of yor .config?
Aug 27 22:35:24  i press the wrong button
Aug 27 22:35:27  i may click it on wipe
Aug 27 22:35:37  there's nothing mounted
Aug 27 22:35:39  but yeah
Aug 27 22:36:25  do we know how to crack these things open if a manual power disconnect is needed?...
Aug 27 22:36:46  ifixit had a nice teardown
Aug 27 22:36:47  can you power it off?
Aug 27 22:36:54  you pop out the front screen
Aug 27 22:37:17  ah, something androidish is running.
Aug 27 22:37:17  http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-HP-TouchPad-Battery/6082/1
Aug 27 22:37:18  we can boot a *large* ramdisk ?
Aug 27 22:37:18  XD
Aug 27 22:37:24  yep
Aug 27 22:37:27  hm
Aug 27 22:37:28  nice
Aug 27 22:37:31  ok
Aug 27 22:37:32  got it
Aug 27 22:37:33  "iFixit announces the world’s cheapest repair manual: the HP TouchPad"
Aug 27 22:37:33  thank god
Aug 27 22:37:37  siestacat: actually android is running, just a minimal version
Aug 27 22:37:40  its rebooted
Aug 27 22:37:51  tmzt_: think you can fix that buffer? :)
Aug 27 22:37:54  tmzt_ : very cool
Aug 27 22:37:54  so we can get a clear shot
Aug 27 22:38:01  maybe but I don't know anything about cwm
Aug 27 22:38:09  thats the video buffer
Aug 27 22:38:11  or something
Aug 27 22:38:12  not vwm
Aug 27 22:38:13  cwm
Aug 27 22:38:21  I don't know how to build it from source
Aug 27 22:38:24  i do
Aug 27 22:38:38  http://nookdevs.com/NookColor:Building_Clockwork_Recovery
Aug 27 22:38:40  we could try a ca kernel now though
Aug 27 22:39:12  or you could try to build a recovery image from that qualcomm repo
Aug 27 22:39:32  it's even closer to the touchpad hw
Aug 27 22:39:52  tmzt_: the framebuffer in the clockwork kernel is prob fucked
Aug 27 22:40:29  those instructions are pretty useless
Aug 27 22:40:33  what do you do before lunch?
Aug 27 22:40:45  what do you wanna do
Aug 27 22:40:47  mauimauer: people want cwm and for good reason
Aug 27 22:40:48  clockwork from src?
Aug 27 22:40:52  yeah
Aug 27 22:40:55  ummmm
Aug 27 22:41:02  its a long process we need to setup a boardconfig
Aug 27 22:41:08  but we could also try backporting the msm_fb driver that android prefers
Aug 27 22:41:08  all kinds of cm shit
Aug 27 22:41:12  uh
Aug 27 22:41:17  hate android build system
Aug 27 22:41:21  its the only way i know to build cwm
Aug 27 22:41:27  we can build AOSP recovery
Aug 27 22:41:41  can we get part of cm and build it?
Aug 27 22:41:46  we shouldn't need the whole thing
Aug 27 22:41:50  https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/107582067004551168
Aug 27 22:41:55  tmzt_: it doesnt work like that
Aug 27 22:41:58  it uses the boardconfig
Aug 27 22:42:00  boardfile
Aug 27 22:42:00  etc
Aug 27 22:42:03  i can show you
Aug 27 22:42:03  sec
Aug 27 22:42:05  get on term
Aug 27 22:42:15  the root one
Aug 27 22:42:18  and dont type reboot plz
Aug 27 22:42:19  :)
Aug 27 22:42:21  im on
Aug 27 22:42:44  where
Aug 27 22:42:45  i dont see you
Aug 27 22:42:50  change screen to root term
Aug 27 22:42:52  root@
Aug 27 22:43:24  tmzt_: ?
Aug 27 22:43:36  why not use the reboot command in nova com?
Aug 27 22:43:52  rhcp: is 0 in the Fibonacci sequence?
Aug 27 22:43:54  well that's why i recommended the qcom repository
Aug 27 22:44:05  it has a boardconfig etc. for a device not that unlike the touchpad
Aug 27 22:44:09  sperman: he means on his computer
Aug 27 22:44:12  ahhhh
Aug 27 22:44:16  probably easier than to start from scratch
Aug 27 22:44:39  because you still have to port the tenderloin board
Aug 27 22:44:47  trust me. we start this from scratch if we want recovery
Aug 27 22:44:50  and android and ca and palm stuff are not exactly the same
Aug 27 22:44:53  the files need to be setup
Aug 27 22:45:01  we want a cwm with lvm partitions
Aug 27 22:45:12  <3>RAMDISK: incomplete write (29350 != 32768)
Aug 27 22:45:12  <3>write error
Aug 27 22:45:13  hm
Aug 27 22:45:19  qcom has pushed quite a few patches to make android run on their devices..
Aug 27 22:45:43  what are you in right now?
Aug 27 22:45:49  sperman: ?
Aug 27 22:45:50  Boardconfig
Aug 27 22:45:52  sCr|pTiC-: ?
Aug 27 22:45:53  file
Aug 27 22:46:00  of cwm source?
Aug 27 22:46:03  no
Aug 27 22:46:05  :)
Aug 27 22:46:05  me?
Aug 27 22:46:10  you need to setup all these files for the device
Aug 27 22:46:11  sperman: no
Aug 27 22:46:14  for CWM to build
Aug 27 22:46:18  we don't need kernel
Aug 27 22:46:20  for the device
Aug 27 22:46:25  just leave it to build for omap3
Aug 27 22:46:33  you sure?
Aug 27 22:46:35  yes
Aug 27 22:46:36  ill just build it for nook
Aug 27 22:46:37  as is
Aug 27 22:46:41  kk
Aug 27 22:46:47  I'm just going to fix the resolution
Aug 27 22:46:50  it should work then
Aug 27 22:46:54  Can you point me to the qcom repo?
Aug 27 22:47:08  I don't know where it is
Aug 27 22:47:12  I know I saw it somewhere on rootzwiki but the search isn't working for me
Aug 27 22:47:18  https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/
Aug 27 22:47:21  I think theey mean a zip file that has been converted into a git repo
Aug 27 22:47:24  but it's not clean
Aug 27 22:47:28  Thanks
Aug 27 22:47:50  has anyone booted that kernel successfully on tp?
Aug 27 22:47:55  I would be highly suprised
Aug 27 22:47:55  http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf
Aug 27 22:48:02  page 8 starts instructions for building
Aug 27 22:48:21  ok my init is too big
Aug 27 22:48:21  what kernel?
Aug 27 22:48:23  dammit ^^
Aug 27 22:48:35  Flemmard: what init are you using?
Aug 27 22:48:50  i don't want qcoms kernel…but their android rootfs sounds promising
Aug 27 22:48:56  i just tested to boot a 128M image
Aug 27 22:48:59  and the recovery too ;)
Aug 27 22:48:59  but it's a bit too big :)
Aug 27 22:49:04  lol ;)
Aug 27 22:49:07  poor touchpad
Aug 27 22:49:07  tmzt_: I need to re-sync
Aug 27 22:49:10  i have twrp in there
Aug 27 22:49:14  one sec
Aug 27 22:49:26  but getting lvm on android will be crap
Aug 27 22:49:27  damn
Aug 27 22:49:31  i need another touch pad
Aug 27 22:49:36  flemmard did you try to boot a whole android roots?
Aug 27 22:49:39  +f
Aug 27 22:49:46  yes :D
Aug 27 22:49:57  qcom's repository supports sty they call tiny_android
Aug 27 22:50:14  it leaves out most of the gui stuff
Aug 27 22:50:29  ok
Aug 27 22:50:31  sycned
Aug 27 22:50:33  let me build it
Aug 27 22:51:02  scr|ptic, did you break you TouchPad1?
Aug 27 22:51:04  mauimauer: which is pretty much recovery
Aug 27 22:51:21  yeah…just want to checkout if theirs is any better
Aug 27 22:51:25  in terms of hw support
Aug 27 22:51:38  since they use the same gpu
Aug 27 22:51:47  I would consider porting the tenderloin board to ca
Aug 27 22:51:53  but it would have to be a better kernel
Aug 27 22:51:57  and I don't think it really is
Aug 27 22:52:06  ca?
Aug 27 22:52:22  codeaurora
Aug 27 22:52:50  for instance, video playback will work better on the palm stuff
Aug 27 22:52:50  well i propose not taking their kernel…but the rest of the stuff ;)
Aug 27 22:53:24  btw i believe palms kernel has been strapped from qcoms source anywhere in the past
Aug 27 22:53:30  the test image has the gpu drivers that work with the tenderloin vresion of mdp/kgsl
Aug 27 22:53:38  yes
Aug 27 22:53:46  but it has newer stuff in it for the mdp
Aug 27 22:53:47  oh i found why my kernel wont boot
Aug 27 22:53:53  phys_offset :D
Aug 27 22:54:05  phys_offset where?
Aug 27 22:54:17  kernel should be set by default
Aug 27 22:54:27  initrd and multi should be 0
Aug 27 22:54:33  yes
Aug 27 22:54:34  guys retweet my tweet plz
Aug 27 22:54:35  thanks
Aug 27 22:54:38  rhcp: where are you?
Aug 27 22:54:42  im here
Aug 27 22:54:45  im buiolding CWM
Aug 27 22:54:46  for you
Aug 27 22:54:56  in my term
Aug 27 22:54:59  diff env
Aug 27 22:55:02  ok
Aug 27 22:55:37  whats your tweet
Aug 27 22:55:52  tmzt_: what do you want
Aug 27 22:55:55  ----- Made recovery filesystem -------- out/target/product/encore/recovery/root
Aug 27 22:55:58  ----- Making uncompressed recovery ramdisk ------
Aug 27 22:56:01  out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkbootfs out/target/product/encore/recovery/root > out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.cpio
Aug 27 22:56:04  ----- Making recovery ramdisk ------
Aug 27 22:56:06  out/host/linux-x86/bin/minigzip < out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.cpio > out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.img
Aug 27 22:56:09  ----- Making recovery image ------
Aug 27 22:56:12  out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkimage -A ARM -O Linux -T RAMDisk -C gzip -n Image -d out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.img out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.ub
Aug 27 22:56:15  Image Name:   Image
Aug 27 22:56:17  Created:      Sat Aug 27 18:51:48 2011
Aug 27 22:56:20  Image Type:   ARM Linux RAMDisk Image (gzip compressed)
Aug 27 22:56:22  Data Size:    1417806 Bytes = 1384.58 kB = 1.35 MB
Aug 27 22:56:25  Load Address: 0x00000000
Aug 27 22:56:27  Entry Point:  0x00000000
Aug 27 22:56:30  ----- Made recovery uboot ramdisk -------- out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.ub
Aug 27 22:56:33  zip -qDj out/target/product/encore/recovery.img out/target/product/encore/ramdisk-recovery.ub out/target/product/encore/kernel
Aug 27 22:56:36  ----- Made recovery image (zip) -------- out/target/product/encore/recovery.img
Aug 27 22:56:39  I'm trying to hack around the source
Aug 27 22:56:39  https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/107582067004551168
Aug 27 22:56:41  this tweet
Aug 27 22:56:52  tmzt_: which of those files you want?
Aug 27 22:56:52  we'll have to use the nook color method to extract initrd
Aug 27 22:57:05  I need the build env
Aug 27 22:57:09  in screen
Aug 27 22:57:15  ah shit. ok
Aug 27 22:57:17  i just built it
Aug 27 22:57:18  sec
Aug 27 22:57:33  get on term
Aug 27 22:57:34  cool it has uboot stuff too
Aug 27 22:57:41  it has all
Aug 27 22:57:43  get on root term
Aug 27 22:59:02  tmzt_: what are you trying to do
Aug 27 22:59:03  just tell me
Aug 27 22:59:07  i know this shit
Aug 27 22:59:41  cant read on the photo because its upside down and my touchpad always turning with it ;)
Aug 27 23:00:08  rotation lock
Aug 27 23:00:11  hey boot the tp into webos
Aug 27 23:00:12  upper right corner
Aug 27 23:00:17  it is in webos
Aug 27 23:00:27  rhcp where do i know you from
Aug 27 23:00:32  grandy: not sure
Aug 27 23:00:35  im all around
Aug 27 23:00:35  what comp did you set for the ramdisk?
Aug 27 23:00:41  i do alot of diff things
Aug 27 23:00:43  reverse eng
Aug 27 23:00:47  unpacking
Aug 27 23:00:49  phones
Aug 27 23:00:49  etc
Aug 27 23:00:50  were you into ps3
Aug 27 23:00:54  yea
Aug 27 23:00:56  mode "1024x768-0" # D: 0.010 MHz, H: 0.005 kHz, V: 0.007 Hz geometry 1024 768 1024 2304 32
Aug 27 23:00:56  i made a few chips
Aug 27 23:01:00  and coded a hex
Aug 27 23:01:01  thats the one then
Aug 27 23:01:03  32bit color?
Aug 27 23:01:05  possibly
Aug 27 23:01:06  efnet?
Aug 27 23:01:06  i ran psgroove.com
Aug 27 23:01:10  ah yes
Aug 27 23:01:17  mauimauer: comp?
Aug 27 23:01:23  grandy: I think you thought i was some hack or something :P
Aug 27 23:01:23  no compress in the uImage
Aug 27 23:01:24  if i rememr
Aug 27 23:01:29  now you are here
Aug 27 23:01:30  dunno
Aug 27 23:01:31  how ironic
Aug 27 23:01:32  :P
Aug 27 23:01:42  i likez the cool stuffz
Aug 27 23:01:44  i know the multi file had to be -C none
Aug 27 23:01:47  but the ramdisk too?
Aug 27 23:02:23  tmzt_: what do you want to do
Aug 27 23:02:33  if you tell me. i can tell you
Aug 27 23:02:34  :)
Aug 27 23:02:39  make this go way faster
Aug 27 23:04:10  lol, they wrote their own libui
Aug 27 23:04:39  never mind, i'm dumb
Aug 27 23:04:50  craptain: are you still working on those images?
Aug 27 23:05:01  craptain: where?
Aug 27 23:05:23  i have a custom kernel that i'm trying to fix graphics in
Aug 27 23:06:22  without knowing what you are doing. what you are saying is useless
Aug 27 23:06:24  and ih ave no idea
Aug 27 23:06:25  tbh
Aug 27 23:06:33  i have no clue what kernel you are building
Aug 27 23:06:35  no nothing
Aug 27 23:06:37  cant help
Aug 27 23:06:49  somebody have an image of p14 i can get?
Aug 27 23:07:28  tmzt_: pm a sec
Aug 27 23:07:43  fyi the doctor will never work again if you mess with any of the partition sizes anywhere, including p14. or screw up the lvm on p14
Aug 27 23:08:37  maui@lightning-vm:~/touchpad/first_test$ novaterm
Aug 27 23:08:38  root@android-transition:/#
Aug 27 23:08:44  wohoo custom kernel and modified ramdisk
Aug 27 23:08:50  anyway guys. ill bbiab
Aug 27 23:08:52  i know…i am not that cool. but it works ;)
Aug 27 23:08:54  dinner with wife and i need to shower
Aug 27 23:08:59  been fucking around all day
Aug 27 23:09:04  and been up too late at night
Aug 27 23:09:16  we will get something src wise when we can
Aug 27 23:09:18  for all
Aug 27 23:09:44  in the mean time. If anyone knows CWM. other then koush
Aug 27 23:09:47  can help out tmzt_
Aug 27 23:09:52  while im gone
Aug 27 23:09:59  greatly appricated
Aug 27 23:10:27  are you building cwm from source?
Aug 27 23:10:37  yes Pulser
Aug 27 23:10:41  show him how and whatnot
Aug 27 23:10:43  ok
Aug 27 23:10:43  hes never done it
Aug 27 23:10:53  not a guru but..
Aug 27 23:10:54  Pulser: we want to fix the framebuffer or graphics
Aug 27 23:10:55  i guess
Aug 27 23:10:56  there is a pretty straight forward guide
Aug 27 23:11:00  since it looks pretty fucked :)
Aug 27 23:11:05  I can alert you to some gotchax
Aug 27 23:11:07  we need 32bit xga
Aug 27 23:11:10  gotchas
Aug 27 23:11:12  i just wanted to get that tweet out
Aug 27 23:11:12  and some keys mapped
Aug 27 23:11:15  to shut the kids up
Aug 27 23:11:16  basically
Aug 27 23:11:18  and jb
Aug 27 23:11:19  tbh
Aug 27 23:11:32  we are the first to get anything android related to boot
Aug 27 23:11:34  ! :)
Aug 27 23:11:35  you will need to sort out mounts
Aug 27 23:11:36  <3
Aug 27 23:11:50  Pulser: mounts are doable, we need lvm though
Aug 27 23:11:55  can you fix minui?
Aug 27 23:11:58  Pulser: getting video to work = first
Aug 27 23:12:03  rhcp, in public yes
Aug 27 23:12:34  I knows in private some are likelybeyond
Aug 27 23:12:38  but meh
Aug 27 23:12:50  right video
Aug 27 23:13:07  I am on via touchpad btw
Aug 27 23:13:19  so can't do much
Aug 27 23:13:20  me too
Aug 27 23:13:27  hehe
Aug 27 23:13:34  practicing my typing
Aug 27 23:13:43  krylon360, you have  a touchpad?
Aug 27 23:13:50  hi dg
Aug 27 23:18:36  did you guys get the touchstone
Aug 27 23:20:32  when is the dev/mapper populated? hm
Aug 27 23:21:04  imho thats up to the init.rc
Aug 27 23:21:12  when vgscan runs I think
Aug 27 23:21:23  right ;)
Aug 27 23:21:25  hm okay
Aug 27 23:21:27  since we don't have a runable vg* (lvm2) yet we can't do much
Aug 27 23:21:38  first thing is to get a shell on this initrd
Aug 27 23:21:42  probably via adb
Aug 27 23:21:43  so if i make a service in init.rc thjat runs vgscan
Aug 27 23:21:46  should work no ?
Aug 27 23:21:56  so we need to take out that rockhopper gadget stuff, eh?
Aug 27 23:22:32  well we should make it so it appears as an android device
Aug 27 23:22:39  what kernel are you working with?
Aug 27 23:22:50  stock tenderloin
Aug 27 23:22:50  im on a kernel found somewhere
Aug 27 23:22:54  2.6.35
Aug 27 23:23:00  yes 2.6.35
Aug 27 23:23:03  mine wont boot ^^
Aug 27 23:23:13  i can go and try changing the usb-otg to android and replace novacomd with adbd ;)
Aug 27 23:23:22  got my franken-installer-image to boot
Aug 27 23:23:27  <3>init: Unable to open persistent property directory /data/property errno: 2
Aug 27 23:23:27  <3>init: cannot find '/system/bin/servicemanager', disabling 'servicemanager'
Aug 27 23:23:27  <3>init: cannot find '/system/bin/vold', disabling 'vold'
Aug 27 23:23:35  i lack a mount
Aug 27 23:23:36  lol
Aug 27 23:23:39  wait what
Aug 27 23:23:40  because /data isn't mounted
Aug 27 23:23:45  not moderated? yay
Aug 27 23:23:46  and /system
Aug 27 23:23:50  Flemmard …what rootfs do you boot?
Aug 27 23:24:00  mauimauer: custom one, based on aosp one
Aug 27 23:24:07  recovery or system?
Aug 27 23:24:11  anyway, i see in a screenshot (http://mrcellphoneunlocker.com/IMG_20110827_182506.jpg) that display driver is fucked
Aug 27 23:24:11  D:
Aug 27 23:24:13  hm ?
Aug 27 23:24:19  which kernel are you using?
Aug 27 23:24:36  i suppose you still memboot…so did you pack an aosp system.img or a recovery.img
Aug 27 23:24:44  system.img is probably way to big ;)
Aug 27 23:24:55  a boot.img
Aug 27 23:25:06  yes i tried with a system :)
Aug 27 23:25:06  we can keep rock*
Aug 27 23:25:19  just change their composite driver to appear as an adb device
Aug 27 23:25:24  what's in there?
Aug 27 23:25:25  and use the adb gadget driver
Aug 27 23:25:31  but we need to get on the same page
Aug 27 23:25:39  :)
Aug 27 23:25:48  hi darkstone
Aug 27 23:25:59  http://sites.google.com/site/siteofhx/Home/android/drivers/udc
Aug 27 23:26:02  hi Pulser
Aug 27 23:26:16  hows progress with this project?
Aug 27 23:26:55  not sure, think they need framebuffer help
Aug 27 23:27:07  you know anything about that?
Aug 27 23:27:18  damn damn damn
Aug 27 23:27:19  yeah it looks like something wrong with msm_fb
Aug 27 23:27:20  whats wrong with the framebuffer?
Aug 27 23:27:24  hm, not too much
Aug 27 23:27:30  how to make this lvm being recognised
Aug 27 23:27:30  crap
Aug 27 23:27:33  need to know which sources theyre using
Aug 27 23:27:35  or kernel
Aug 27 23:27:45  Flemmard: can I get you to work with us on the cwm initrd?
Aug 27 23:27:46  dg, the usual corrupotion
Aug 27 23:27:50  ah
Aug 27 23:27:56  almost everything in there will apply to a standard android image later
Aug 27 23:27:57  that you get incwm
Aug 27 23:28:05  fixed it on the Atrix, maybe I can work my magic again
Aug 27 23:28:12  early on in dev
Aug 27 23:28:14  yeah
Aug 27 23:28:16  take a look
Aug 27 23:28:29  designgears: it needs to be xga 32bit to start
Aug 27 23:28:30  I take it you guys know designgears?
Aug 27 23:28:34  no
Aug 27 23:29:01  km, very good Samsung dev, did a fair bit on atrix too
Aug 27 23:29:10  yeap
Aug 27 23:29:51  I guess he can take a look at cwm if he is not busy
Aug 27 23:30:41  dg, know anything about android and lvm, and fixing that screen corruption in the fb?
Aug 27 23:30:46  anyone care to spill on how they booted their own initrd stuff? :p
Aug 27 23:31:07  sandwich uImage
Aug 27 23:31:16  I'm going to cloen this
Aug 27 23:31:19  darkstone, I think they used bootie
Aug 27 23:31:22  git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git
Aug 27 23:31:25  tbe exact specifics
Aug 27 23:31:25  kernel and ramdisk in a multi-file u-boot image
Aug 27 23:31:31  I don't know repo and I don't want to fork all of cm
Aug 27 23:31:35  I don't know
Aug 27 23:31:39  heh D:
Aug 27 23:31:43  then boot via novacom boot mem:// < ourImage
Aug 27 23:32:05  hm, need to see how to sandwich our own initrd
Aug 27 23:32:11  darkstone: just build a uImage from an initrd
Aug 27 23:32:21  ok I'm going to head off for now
Aug 27 23:32:34  good luck guys
Aug 27 23:32:38  cya Pulser
Aug 27 23:32:48  mkimage -A arm -C none -T initrd -n 'nc cwm initrd' -d initrd.img initrd.uImage
Aug 27 23:32:57  tmzt_: and how about our own kernel?
Aug 27 23:33:00  have android perfect before tomorrow too :p
Aug 27 23:33:05  make uImage
Aug 27 23:33:06  kthxbai :p
Aug 27 23:33:09  What is the progress?
Aug 27 23:33:11  takeing so long
Aug 27 23:33:14  then wrap the (make uImage) kernel with a multi uImage
Aug 27 23:33:15  should give you the right thing if you have the uboot-tools installed
Aug 27 23:33:26  ah ok
Aug 27 23:33:46  tmzt we should document this stuff
Aug 27 23:33:50  its useful info
Aug 27 23:33:54  :-)
Aug 27 23:34:38  anyway cya folks
Aug 27 23:34:47  bb
Aug 27 23:35:01  mkimage -A arm -C none -T multi  -n 'nc cwm boot image' -d kernel.uImage:initrd.uImage ncboot.uImage
Aug 27 23:35:18  add it to the Bootie page
Aug 27 23:35:38  ^_^ cool
Aug 27 23:35:40  or we can put it somewhere else
Aug 27 23:36:07  initrd.img ext2/yaffs?
Aug 27 23:36:37  not yaffs2
Aug 27 23:36:45  you can use ext2, but I prefer cpio.gz
Aug 27 23:37:02  meh ext2 is easier for me to fuck around with
Aug 27 23:37:07  just mount and change etc :P
Aug 27 23:37:18  in that case you can try -C gzip
Aug 27 23:37:33  on the initrd uImage only
Aug 27 23:37:51  it's annoying because of the extra inodes
Aug 27 23:37:57  and initramfs is so much cleaner
Aug 27 23:38:01  but whatever
Aug 27 23:38:06  :p
Aug 27 23:38:09  http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie …says the ramdisk needs to be -C none
Aug 27 23:38:15  ok
Aug 27 23:39:16  btw did you do anything to that cwm image before you pushed it trough mkimage?
Aug 27 23:39:29  no
Aug 27 23:39:42  didn't succeed with my custom build recovery.img from the qcom-aosp
Aug 27 23:39:42  orignally extracted it from uImage though
Aug 27 23:39:45  just to look at it
Aug 27 23:39:52  oh
Aug 27 23:39:58  you'll have to split that out
Aug 27 23:40:17  recovery.img has kernel and initrd in a different format
Aug 27 23:40:54  http://nookdevs.com/NookColor:Building_Clockwork_Recovery#Build_CWM
Aug 27 23:41:00  Are you guys working on Android  for touchpad?
Aug 27 23:41:02  now i finally get why you we're using that nook image ;)
Aug 27 23:41:12  the split part
Aug 27 23:41:19  Ice_Black: yes
Aug 27 23:41:32  let's see if that helps ;)
Aug 27 23:41:36  @tmzt_ So you get the full dump right?
Aug 27 23:41:38  we've got cwm booted through usb with some image corruption
Aug 27 23:41:39  apart from ROM
Aug 27 23:41:46  I'm not using it
Aug 27 23:41:57  why its hard to get ROM
Aug 27 23:42:02  get ROM?
Aug 27 23:42:04  that seem taking ages
Aug 27 23:42:06  anyone got a working link to those split_tools?
Aug 27 23:42:14  ice_black, go away
Aug 27 23:42:23  to flash it?
Aug 27 23:42:35  ice_black shit does not write itself in a day
Aug 27 23:42:37  jmhalder behave, im asking sinmple question
Aug 27 23:42:40  we building from first principals
Aug 27 23:42:51  @tmzt_ ah ok
Aug 27 23:42:53  we can use parts of that test image
Aug 27 23:42:55  a useless non dev related question.
Aug 27 23:43:01  eventually but we don't need it now
Aug 27 23:43:11  it would slow us down to try to re it into place
Aug 27 23:43:13  and never be stable
Aug 27 23:43:27  because it's not meant to be
Aug 27 23:43:44  apparently HP/Palm needed pvt before they had a webos ready
Aug 27 23:43:48  so they used android
Aug 27 23:43:48  I thought you get ROM from HP Touchpad
Aug 27 23:43:50  im wrong
Aug 27 23:44:32  mauimauer: sorry, I didn't do that
Aug 27 23:44:42  the current version of the cwm build can build initrds
Aug 27 23:44:44  what?
Aug 27 23:44:54  and i just used the uImage download from the nook site
Aug 27 23:44:59  and dd'd out the initrd
Aug 27 23:45:16  we'll build from source soon
Aug 27 23:45:20  whenever rhcp gets back
Aug 27 23:45:23  IceBlackIce: the rom is/was just to test hardware, not to be a stable tablrt OS
Aug 27 23:45:25  I'm looking into adb gadget now
Aug 27 23:46:10  lol, I feel bad for what you guys have to put up with
Aug 27 23:46:59  trying to boot again...
Aug 27 23:47:06  i got it
Aug 27 23:47:07  omg
Aug 27 23:47:10  its not distorted
Aug 27 23:47:18  exclamation mark and little android
Aug 27 23:47:25  wait i get my cam
Aug 27 23:47:36  From what I understand you guys manage to dump Android from touchpad.. you in the process how to flash to device?
Aug 27 23:47:45   for mauimauer
Aug 27 23:47:54  no they are building android from scratch Ice_Black
Aug 27 23:48:00  from source
Aug 27 23:48:07  Woot woot. Go mauimauer
Aug 27 23:48:14  my recovery is from that qcom repo
Aug 27 23:48:39  msm8660_surf as board
Aug 27 23:48:53  xSLAYERx Oh right.. So they will be borrowing drivers from existing dump
Aug 27 23:49:13  no
Aug 27 23:49:17  might use parts of that build from the touchpad android
Aug 27 23:49:29  does HTC sensation share the same SOC?
Aug 27 23:49:29  hard to say right now
Aug 27 23:50:24  basicly that build of android on the touchpad they are using as a resource while doing their build. the new build should be better.
Aug 27 23:50:43  but gonna take some time
Aug 27 23:50:44  Ah ok.. I thought was wrong.. What I thought they got a dump, now they working on trying to flash dump/flash to devies
Aug 27 23:50:45  lol
Aug 27 23:51:16  Nazgul07: HOLY SHIT YOU TALK
Aug 27 23:51:32  Lol yeah I do.
Aug 27 23:51:33  doesn't react to any buttons
Aug 27 23:51:41  it's the stock recovery after all...
Aug 27 23:51:47  are you the same guy whoks been sitting in #xda-devs for years.
Aug 27 23:52:58  Haha, yep. I absorb. I only code in c# so no help when it comes to android. Exem
Aug 27 23:53:10  Except what I learn
Aug 27 23:53:29  ...
Aug 27 23:53:31  I HATE YOU.
Aug 27 23:53:36  IVE BEEN TRYING TO TALK TO YOU FOR OVER A YEAR
Aug 27 23:53:46  https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iWbX3P-BS_w/TlmCMkj_zEI/AAAAAAAABLA/2ZlegLe8pbQ/s576/IMG_20110828_014725.jpg
Aug 27 23:53:50  Is there anywhere that is keeping track of progress, whether its booted etc?
Aug 27 23:53:56  Lol why?
Aug 27 23:53:58  And nice ;)
Aug 27 23:53:59  https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YCttK0Ca788/TlmCVPf1_MI/AAAAAAAABLI/XEmVDBZpIRA/s720/IMG_20110828_014622.jpg
Aug 27 23:54:08  nice nice nice
Aug 27 23:54:10  Are you serious?
Aug 27 23:54:15  rhcp shown some pic on his twitter of something or another
Aug 27 23:54:16  Just saying, I'm taking credit for everything darkstone helps you with; I told him he should check this channel out. :P
Aug 27 23:54:20  definitely not distorted
Aug 27 23:54:44  ironsight: link plssssss
Aug 27 23:54:46  no reason, i originally read your name nazgurl and went on a long rant about what i wanted to do to you sexually
Aug 27 23:54:49  and confessed my love.
Aug 27 23:54:52  stock recovery build for msm8660_surf with the qcom repo
Aug 27 23:54:56  http://t.co/YBNSD9c
Aug 27 23:55:10  then it became my lifes amibiton for you to RESPOND TO ME. lmfao
Aug 27 23:55:22  my lifes very boring =(
Aug 27 23:55:33  Ironsight: Cheers, omg its CWM but repeated 4 times xD
Aug 27 23:55:44  Hahaha. I'm a dude. But that's some funny shit
Aug 27 23:55:54  [00:50:24]  Just saying, I'm taking credit for everything darkstone helps you with; I told him he should check this channel out. :P
Aug 27 23:55:54  xD
Aug 27 23:56:01  was already here :P
Aug 27 23:56:09  DANG IT! :P
Aug 27 23:56:10  well it looks nice…but it doesn't do shit ;)
Aug 27 23:56:29  weill its a start right?
Aug 27 23:56:32  i figured that out, but it was still comical everytime youd join or leave for me to go on a rant
Aug 27 23:56:37  and i have no idea how to restart ;)
Aug 27 23:56:59  Haha. I've never seen your rants
Aug 27 23:57:13  mauimauer: testet vol+ or vol- with power?
Aug 27 23:57:15  ... well that is s completley dissapointing. lmfao
Aug 27 23:57:45  mauimauer: restart should be power and centerbutton for 15sec.
Aug 27 23:57:46  :) I'll have to go look through and find them
Aug 27 23:58:31  ok managed to reboot
Aug 27 23:58:40  i'll see if i can package adb
Aug 27 23:58:49  screw lvm !
Aug 27 23:59:12  What version of Android we gonna use
Aug 27 23:59:36  Android 3.2 ?
Aug 27 23:59:43  Erm... if we get android 2.3.x how exactly will the buttons work? we have one :(
Aug 27 23:59:52  Softkeys.
Aug 27 23:59:55  Most likely they'll do 2.3.x with enough of a hack to use softkeys.
Aug 27 23:59:57  Ha.3.2 has no source
Aug 28 00:00:01  Or cm7 tablet tweaks.
Aug 28 00:00:08  preferably the latter.
Aug 28 00:00:09  most chinese tablets do already use softkeys
Aug 28 00:00:12  2.3 cm7 tablet tweaks
Aug 28 00:00:12  And odds are that Ice Cream Sandwich will make it all tie together in a few weeks or a month or so.
Aug 28 00:00:13  (ipad clones)
Aug 28 00:00:25  there are other tabs with just 1key, no worries
Aug 28 00:00:30  http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3831 <--- this dude sounds special
Aug 28 00:00:33  ICS source will probably take eons to come out though
Aug 28 00:00:36  The important thing is to get some form of AOSP based build on it.
Aug 28 00:00:42  *cough* nook color *cough*
Aug 28 00:01:06  Anything that doesn't use AOSP has no future.
Aug 28 00:01:10  tmzt_ still awake?
Aug 28 00:01:18  my bets are on the qcom repo
Aug 28 00:01:24  at least for the non-kernel parts
Aug 28 00:02:08  rhcp you here?
Aug 28 00:02:41  i took a look at the scripts on the droid dump.. and there are some curious things
Aug 28 00:03:02  some script insmod a kernel module for the wifi chip… not used on the Touchpad, but the Pre
Aug 28 00:04:51  mauimauer: I'm still here
Aug 28 00:04:55  rhcp is away
Aug 28 00:05:11  did you see my result with the qcom recovery?
Aug 28 00:05:21  you said it didn't work
Aug 28 00:05:31  because i didn't split the image
Aug 28 00:05:41  after that it worked!
Aug 28 00:05:44  scroll up a bit ;)
Aug 28 00:06:01  https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iWbX3P-BS_w/TlmCMkj_zEI/AAAAAAAABLA/2ZlegLe8pbQ/s576/IMG_20110828_014725.jpg
Aug 28 00:06:06  oh so no corruption?
Aug 28 00:06:10  what kernel are you using?
Aug 28 00:06:26  stock tenderloin
Aug 28 00:06:31  literaly
Aug 28 00:06:39  didn't change a thing
Aug 28 00:06:58  the ramdisk is from my qcom_aosp build
Aug 28 00:07:13  anyone looking for a 32gb touchpad?
Aug 28 00:07:26  Froz3n: play along at home
Aug 28 00:07:31  I'm working on making that easier
Aug 28 00:07:37  prettty
Aug 28 00:07:41  Yea @androidbruce how much $
Aug 28 00:07:59  Now i am trying to see what happens when i use a kernel with android gadget
Aug 28 00:08:47  okay cool
Aug 28 00:08:49  Quick question
Aug 28 00:08:53  looks like cwm's minui is out of date
Aug 28 00:08:56  trsohmers: sure
Aug 28 00:08:59  what mmcblk is /media/internal
Aug 28 00:09:00  ?
Aug 28 00:09:07  on webOS
Aug 28 00:09:39  check mount
Aug 28 00:09:46  I don't know
Aug 28 00:09:52  it might also be a lvm
Aug 28 00:10:00  it's /dev/mapper/store-media
Aug 28 00:10:16  vistazifta, it's not mine, i'm asking the guy now. gimme a min
Aug 28 00:10:42  make an offer
Aug 28 00:12:23  What was original 150? Of yea I'ma prob go a little more just to be fair but I'd rather wait if the guy is looking to make a nice profit
Aug 28 00:12:23  Anyone been able to see the touchpad via adb?
Aug 28 00:12:42  *if
Aug 28 00:14:06  I think they got adb with a custom kernel. Not sure though.
Aug 28 00:14:50  we don't have adb yet
Aug 28 00:15:08  I've seen people who have claimed to have it but no documentation on how
Aug 28 00:15:26  Ok.  The Qcom claims it should work so..
Aug 28 00:15:29  blah
Aug 28 00:15:55  Qcom documentation.  And I know I had to go through usb port, cable, permission hoops on my phone so..
Aug 28 00:15:59  still think the qcom repo will prove helpful
Aug 28 00:16:21  I hope so.  I've been syncing the repo for the past hour I think
Aug 28 00:16:44  lot's of qcom specific stuff
Aug 28 00:17:09  but the msm8660_surf board is probably the right thing to start with
Aug 28 00:17:22  Androidbruce how much is he looking for?
Aug 28 00:17:39  the problem here is different msm devices have different firmware, ebi layouts, etc.
Aug 28 00:17:49  it also generated a lot of other stuff like …EMMCBOOT.MBN
Aug 28 00:17:50  they don't usually work across device just because it has the same soc
Aug 28 00:18:02  i know ;)
Aug 28 00:18:31  but that recovery icon just looks as it's supposed to be
Aug 28 00:18:38  kinda surprising if you ask me
Aug 28 00:18:53  recovery icon?
Aug 28 00:19:05  i got the little android with exclamation mark
Aug 28 00:20:46  crap, no wonder.  qcom git repo was 2+ gig
Aug 28 00:21:29  okay, I'm trying android gadget, I guess menuconfig is easier for some things
Aug 28 00:21:52  Flatspin did you get the right branch?
Aug 28 00:22:05  Don't know, it's not quite done yet
Aug 28 00:22:27  -b gingerbread_rel -m M8660AAABQNLYA109002.xml
Aug 28 00:22:31  and disabling mass storage
Aug 28 00:22:32  that's for our machine
Aug 28 00:22:48  I probably pulled them all.
Aug 28 00:23:07  ..
Aug 28 00:23:41  and it builds
Aug 28 00:24:02  Ok, no.  I did: -b carrot.cupcake -m M7201JSDCBALYA6380.xml
Aug 28 00:24:11  lemme fix that.  Thanks
Aug 28 00:24:31  anybody know the telbootie command to boot into bootie?
Aug 28 00:24:44  tellbotie taks params?
Aug 28 00:25:00  when i did tellbotie --help it just rebooted :/
Aug 28 00:26:04  into bootie?
Aug 28 00:26:18  no
Aug 28 00:26:24  it just rebooted
Aug 28 00:27:05  yeah i had to reboot into bootie in order to do that
Aug 28 00:27:22  oh damn so you can use novacom setenv bootfile ? or even changethe command line?
Aug 28 00:27:39  yeah
Aug 28 00:27:49  i thought you guys knew that
Aug 28 00:27:53  good for multuboot
Aug 28 00:28:11  so we can change the env from the booted sys using telbootie?
Aug 28 00:28:24  no turn off your touchpad
Aug 28 00:28:35  hold volume up and plug into usb
Aug 28 00:28:40  then open novaterm
Aug 28 00:28:40  i know that part ;)
Aug 28 00:28:43  oh ok
Aug 28 00:29:04  just thought we could pass on cmds to bootie after booting
Aug 28 00:29:06  i didn't have any luck with tellbootie other than recovery command
Aug 28 00:29:12  here novaterm doesnt even work
Aug 28 00:29:18  novacom -t open tty:// works fine
Aug 28 00:29:30  nova term works fine for me ;)
Aug 28 00:29:31  you need java sdk installed to make it novaterm work
Aug 28 00:29:41  and i am doing all this from an ubuntu vm
Aug 28 00:29:42  yes i got everything
Aug 28 00:29:46  but it just crashes lke shit
Aug 28 00:29:56  dunno then
Aug 28 00:30:36  my kernel is almost finish…let's see if my recovery does adb now ;)
Aug 28 00:30:43  damn autocorrect
Aug 28 00:30:59  fyi: my english isn't THAT bad
Aug 28 00:31:04  sure...
Aug 28 00:32:11  let me know if you need someone else to test it, i have a 32gb touchpad
Aug 28 00:32:19  Ok, I installed the uberkernel and noticed I don't have the jailed partitions anymore.
Aug 28 00:32:58  lvm is a bitch
Aug 28 00:33:37  how's it going trsohmers?
Aug 28 00:33:53  Partitioning this thing is a real pain in the ass
Aug 28 00:34:16  whats the progress?
Aug 28 00:34:17  yes
Aug 28 00:34:31  trsohmers: dont add a partition after the lvm array
Aug 28 00:34:32  :D
Aug 28 00:34:54  Flemmard: Not planning on doing that… just trying to move around some of the lvm partitions
Aug 28 00:34:59  booting...
Aug 28 00:35:13  and there's the little android again
Aug 28 00:35:49  that's a good screen
Aug 28 00:35:53  it just means connect adb
Aug 28 00:35:56  doesn't mean it's working
Aug 28 00:36:00  can you pastebin lsusv -v -v ?
Aug 28 00:36:13  I'd like to try this but rhcp isn't back yet
Aug 28 00:36:36  I am on MacOSX
Aug 28 00:36:49  and it didn't detect any new usb devices to passthrough to the vm
Aug 28 00:37:38  and my local adb doenst list any devices :(
Aug 28 00:37:53  btw after it boots i get the android together with a little package
Aug 28 00:38:10  then it immediately switches to the exclamation mark…probably due to missing partitions ;)
Aug 28 00:38:45  oh hai guys
Aug 28 00:38:48  Oh wow
Aug 28 00:38:55  no more iron dis t
Aug 28 00:38:56  you bastards removed my aop.
Aug 28 00:39:00  pain will be had.
Aug 28 00:39:04  fist*?
Aug 28 00:39:21  mauimauer, you're getting the stock android recovery logo?
Aug 28 00:39:28  yep
Aug 28 00:39:42  does that mean I can peek at the kernel finally? :-)
Aug 28 00:39:43  nice
Aug 28 00:39:52  doesn't react to anything (buttons etc. though)
Aug 28 00:39:58  dab doesn't work
Aug 28 00:40:12  EliteTek: owned
Aug 28 00:40:15  EliteTek: ?
Aug 28 00:40:21  aop?
Aug 28 00:43:10  whoops…seems adbd is disabled by default
Aug 28 00:43:28  qcom driver not available to public?
Aug 28 00:44:41  hrm… so if an announcement is made, where would it be made to?  twitter?
Aug 28 00:45:07  probably
Aug 28 00:45:11  Ice_Black: what driver
Aug 28 00:45:16  mauimauer, you are using the stock android recovery?
Aug 28 00:45:26  qcom stock
Aug 28 00:45:37  have you tried building a cwm version?
Aug 28 00:45:51  usually the exclam mark is it is looking for an update.zip to flash
Aug 28 00:45:53  not building one
Aug 28 00:45:57  that is how some stock ones are
Aug 28 00:45:57  but we booted one
Aug 28 00:46:07  corrupt video
Aug 28 00:46:16  tmzt_: where did u put data of android you booted?!
Aug 28 00:46:22  so what device was it for then?
Aug 28 00:46:28  rothnic: its not mounting /sd then
Aug 28 00:46:39  and nothing to flash to
Aug 28 00:47:05  lvm is a stupid whore
Aug 28 00:47:15  i can't get things to work with android init
Aug 28 00:47:26  Figured I'd let you all know personally I'm leaving. Thanks for the experience. I appreciate it. Good luck.
Aug 28 00:47:28  you don't have lvm2
Aug 28 00:47:38  wtf.
Aug 28 00:47:38  anyone use wirc?
Aug 28 00:47:49  jbruchon: good luck to you as well
Aug 28 00:47:53  tmzt_: i took lvm.static from tp rom
Aug 28 00:47:53  uhm
Aug 28 00:48:00  Flemmard: ok
Aug 28 00:48:01  that's not really jbruchon is it?
Aug 28 00:48:06  I always have a white bar at the bottom, and the chat never scrolls
Aug 28 00:48:12  but i dont know, it wont mount
Aug 28 00:48:24  gracious i do
Aug 28 00:48:29  oh nvm it is him
Aug 28 00:48:33  finec: my nick is registered.
Aug 28 00:48:43  lameeeeee this project is shitty, one moment you guys are like HURR THINGS ARE GOING GOOD
Aug 28 00:48:48  next you are like later I'm done
Aug 28 00:49:21  so, building cwm from the stock recovery hasn't been done?
Aug 28 00:49:23  wtf?
Aug 28 00:49:33  And I apologize for anything I did that was in poor taste.
Aug 28 00:49:35  Thanks for having me.
Aug 28 00:49:38  Take care :)
Aug 28 00:49:47  what the shit?
Aug 28 00:49:48  poor taste? what he done?
Aug 28 00:50:12  a little dramatic
Aug 28 00:50:21  Did designGears ever make it in???
Aug 28 00:50:33  Looked like a sincere live and let live to me. I'd just let it go.
Aug 28 00:50:38  Viper714: yes
Aug 28 00:50:40  yer
Aug 28 00:50:55  rothnic: you been here all week?  :-)
Aug 28 00:51:12  watching and waiting for my touchpad
Aug 28 00:51:15  hey @glacious - how's your TP running now?
Aug 28 00:51:26  not watching that closely though
Aug 28 00:51:30  got mine b&m
Aug 28 00:51:32  DG: Awesome!! I know of your reputation with the Capivate. HOpefully you can help on the TouchPad/Touchdroid!!!
Aug 28 00:51:43  is this project even moving at this point?
Aug 28 00:51:58  ROFL
Aug 28 00:52:10  no its not
Aug 28 00:52:11  Jbruchon mentioned on twitter that he might be leaving\
Aug 28 00:52:13  you guys get status checks from blobs all dAU
Aug 28 00:52:27  jmhalder2: he literally just said his goodbyes
Aug 28 00:52:27  Who cares if JBruchon leaves, to be honest?  He's not even a developer.
Aug 28 00:52:27  where do we donate?
Aug 28 00:52:34  ziplock503: You don't
Aug 28 00:52:47  k
Aug 28 00:52:47  hrm
Aug 28 00:52:51  got my TP last night
Aug 28 00:52:58  i really like webOS but the app catalog is a wasteland
Aug 28 00:53:08  it's not that bad.
Aug 28 00:53:13  Found a lot of good stuff
Aug 28 00:53:24  Wohoo! Drama central
Aug 28 00:53:24  Finec: go grab a iphone and then its bad
Aug 28 00:53:30  I have an ipad
Aug 28 00:53:33  ipad2
Aug 28 00:53:40  iPods suck
Aug 28 00:53:43  ipad*
Aug 28 00:53:47  the kindle app needs improving
Aug 28 00:53:48  how many apps do you really use?
Aug 28 00:53:52  the page turn animation is fail
Aug 28 00:54:07  i use about 20
Aug 28 00:54:13  ipad can do netflix :)  insta-win
Aug 28 00:54:14  take or leave a few if i'm playing through any games
Aug 28 00:54:23  @mm13 - don't ya mean "lack of page turn animation"?  :P
Aug 28 00:54:24  kindle app is getting update just heard today
Aug 28 00:54:25  I rather like my iPad 2.
Aug 28 00:54:38  huh?  no there is a page turn animation
Aug 28 00:54:43  the update came out yesterday
Aug 28 00:54:44  @DG - iPad doesn't cost $99.
Aug 28 00:54:47  ziplock503: it got one, so did the HP market
Aug 28 00:54:47  i never had the old version
Aug 28 00:54:47  If I could have gotten a Touchpad when I got my original iPad, for cheaper? Maybe I'd have avoided spending as much money. But.
Aug 28 00:54:55  they all have upsides but I dig this touchpad, I don't get why people complain about webOS so much, it's nice.
Aug 28 00:54:57  ahhh...guess i need to update then
Aug 28 00:55:08  i wish I could turn the animation off, it's no bueno
Aug 28 00:55:12  waiting of openoffice to update sometime this week
Aug 28 00:55:13  WebOS has a lot of nice features, but unfortunately they cover up a lot of flaws.
Aug 28 00:55:16  you can turn the animation off
Aug 28 00:55:19  Load times are the _worst_ on WebOS.
Aug 28 00:55:20  go to the settings mm13
Aug 28 00:55:21  I am getting my TP next week. Shipped from HP
Aug 28 00:55:24  kennethpenn, touchpad didnt either, until it failed
Aug 28 00:55:45  my tp will be here tuesday
Aug 28 00:55:46  you can really speed things up tellarhk
Aug 28 00:55:55  hrm, couldn't find where to turn off animation
Aug 28 00:55:55  mine's blazing fast
Aug 28 00:55:58  aikiwoce: Yeah, I did.
Aug 28 00:55:59  but you're probably right
Aug 28 00:56:01  True dat! I'd buy an iPad if it were $99. I'm just saying the two can't be compared when one is fire-sale priced.
Aug 28 00:56:03  Viper714, is hp selling again?
Aug 28 00:56:03  which annimation?
Aug 28 00:56:04  It helps but the OS is still badly flawed.
Aug 28 00:56:14  i might have a spare 32gig TP.  is there a dev who genuinely needs one for development work?
Aug 28 00:56:25  kennethpenn, try, I was opposed to getting one until the price drop
Aug 28 00:56:26  I hear that WebOS has its good points, but I woul dreather prefer Android!!!
Aug 28 00:56:28  mm13 there are like two settings, just flip off the first one
Aug 28 00:56:33  i wish there was a better RSS reader
Aug 28 00:56:36  md213, i know some very talented guys who are
Aug 28 00:56:38  md213: I strongly suspect that it'll be done by the time you could have anything shipped.
Aug 28 00:56:43  true*
Aug 28 00:56:51  rothnic: send me their contact info?
Aug 28 00:56:54  mm13 i tried preader and it blows
Aug 28 00:57:01  yeah :-|
Aug 28 00:57:31  @DG -- good luck. I lucked out and got on BestBuy.com immediately when they re-stocked. I'll Gtalk you if I hear anything.
Aug 28 00:57:38  ohai
Aug 28 00:57:47  kennethpenn, i got one
Aug 28 00:57:53  reeder is my favorite app
Aug 28 00:57:57  but alas, no webos
Aug 28 00:58:03  This tablet would be even more epic if netflix took the time to make an app for it. One of the only reasons I want froyo on this running soon is to watch some netflix :-(
Aug 28 00:58:05  NewsRoom owns on the phone
Aug 28 00:58:06  Md123 I'm looking to buy 1
Aug 28 00:58:06  Oh I read that wrong.
Aug 28 00:58:10  kennethpenn, walked into barnes and noble around 1pm and just found a random one
Aug 28 00:58:11  lol
Aug 28 00:58:39  today DG?
Aug 28 00:58:40  how do you guys like the build quality of the device?
Aug 28 00:58:45  hahah niceee
Aug 28 00:58:49  ziplock503, friday
Aug 28 00:58:50  love it
Aug 28 00:58:55  noice!
Aug 28 00:59:02  Build quality isn't bad at all. It's not the iPad, but it's nice.
Aug 28 00:59:12  I need some netflix on this
Aug 28 00:59:14  kennethpenn: It's an iPhone 3G. ;)
Aug 28 00:59:19  i have 1 dead pixel and a little bit dust in the upper right corner :(
Aug 28 00:59:23  netfix
Aug 28 00:59:26  http://forum.webosroundup.com/index.php?threads/how-to-watch-netflix-and-hulu-on-the-touchpad.750/
Aug 28 00:59:35  kennethpenn, after running thru the getting started thread and installing patches and OC, it is pretty nice now
Aug 28 00:59:53  ziplock503 : playon is gay
Aug 28 00:59:55  Screen is good, casing is nice. A little weighty in hand.
Aug 28 00:59:59  i agree
Aug 28 01:00:01  but it works
Aug 28 01:00:05  yeah thanks ken for the guide
Aug 28 01:00:10  HP did something wrong if they made OC'ing a requirement for smooth graphics, unfortunately.
Aug 28 01:00:12  im still waiting for a better work around
Aug 28 01:00:23  Yeah. When I girst got this I was shocked at the speed. Once I figured out all the modifications it was much nicer.
Aug 28 01:00:23  the cpu should be fine with 1.5 ghz
Aug 28 01:00:25  TellarHK well you need to turn off all the logging
Aug 28 01:00:25  ziplock503, playon is suck bullshit
Aug 28 01:00:26  heh, this is true
Aug 28 01:00:32  even on devices <64gb
Aug 28 01:00:39  im not paying them monthly for doing nothing after I get the app
Aug 28 01:00:42  aikiwoce: Yeah, I did that like I said.
Aug 28 01:00:45  And it did help.
Aug 28 01:00:46  me ethier LOL
Aug 28 01:00:55  I just think HP screwed up shipping it with that default experience.
Aug 28 01:00:57  1.5 is good...but personally 1.7 is noticably better
Aug 28 01:01:10  does it run hot at that speed?
Aug 28 01:01:14  thinking about trying 1.7
Aug 28 01:01:18  is it stable?
Aug 28 01:01:20  yeah focused too much on trying to make it an ipad
Aug 28 01:01:27  1.7 is stable
Aug 28 01:01:30  nice
Aug 28 01:01:31  They didn't focus _enough_ on that.
Aug 28 01:01:32  1.9 no no
Aug 28 01:01:36  1.7 is VERY stable
Aug 28 01:01:42  The iPad's stock apps don't have loading times. :)
Aug 28 01:01:45  yeah...1.9 is negatory ghost rider
Aug 28 01:01:46  well trying for the stability
Aug 28 01:01:50  maybe not experience
Aug 28 01:01:53  my god
Aug 28 01:01:54  load times i dont really care
Aug 28 01:01:58  the OS must be so inefficient
Aug 28 01:01:59  it's like they shipped it in debug mode
Aug 28 01:01:59  i'd presonally recommend 1.7 on the Warthog kernel
Aug 28 01:02:01  on this hardware :-|
Aug 28 01:02:02  i can have 50 apps open
Aug 28 01:02:06  So you can OC the touchpad to 1.7? what program.
Aug 28 01:02:19  preware
Aug 28 01:02:25  f15c
Aug 28 01:02:27  kernel
Aug 28 01:02:27  I can do the 1.8ghz, but once I try 1.9 I lock up
Aug 28 01:02:37  I like closing my apps so I can keep it less cluttered. Habit.
Aug 28 01:02:37  md213: ik a dev who could use one
Aug 28 01:02:40  1.9 always locks up
Aug 28 01:02:45  Does the TP get hot once it's in 1.7?
Aug 28 01:02:53  But I don't like waiting five seconds or whatever any time I want to load mail. :P
Aug 28 01:02:57  Logoboy : not for me
Aug 28 01:02:59  govnah in preware to set clocks, there are a few kernels available in the testing feeds for preware
Aug 28 01:03:08  But all that said, I think WebOS is better than I expected.
Aug 28 01:03:17  I had a pixi before the touchpad
Aug 28 01:03:19  I love the touchpad
Aug 28 01:03:20  Is there a way to adjust core voltage yet?
Aug 28 01:03:29  nascasho : yeah
Aug 28 01:03:29  i think most ppl were surprised with webOS (i think lol)
Aug 28 01:03:40  how open and hackable it is
Aug 28 01:03:43  yup
Aug 28 01:03:52  hp really didn't market it right
Aug 28 01:03:56  I love the cards stack to be honest
Aug 28 01:04:08  I have ubuntu
Aug 28 01:04:11  It's sexy
Aug 28 01:04:11  << big (new) fan of webOS
Aug 28 01:04:11  The cards are actually a nice user interface choice.
Aug 28 01:04:12  did they ever run any tv ads?
Aug 28 01:04:12  nascasho: netflix will be difficult to support on here, probably some combination of gpu firmware, driver, kernel and overlay support will be needed
Aug 28 01:04:15  stacks are sweet
Aug 28 01:04:17  the touchpad is very easy to customize
Aug 28 01:04:17  just missing a few things...
Aug 28 01:04:22  i wish it had navigation buttons that weren't part of each app
Aug 28 01:04:22  I'd prefer cards on top of Android though.
Aug 28 01:04:24  hp obviously made a device people want... they just priced it wrong
Aug 28 01:04:32  Cars + Widgets = Win
Aug 28 01:04:35  Er, Cards.
Aug 28 01:04:41  imagine if you had a new breed of OS, a mix between webOS and android
Aug 28 01:04:42  :D
Aug 28 01:04:45  you know what I DONT like... the fact that you can't long press a mp3 in the browser to save it... you just can't save it at all, only stream it
Aug 28 01:04:47  the original pre ads were garbage ... they ran touchpad ads but then killed it lol but i still see the touchpad ads
Aug 28 01:05:05  maybe you could call it Icecream sandwich or so i hope logoboy
Aug 28 01:05:05  jmhalder there is a patch for that
Aug 28 01:05:11  ?
Aug 28 01:05:11  multi mod
Aug 28 01:05:22  I'll def check it out, thanks
Aug 28 01:05:24  when u goto mp3 it will give option to stream or download
Aug 28 01:05:29  yeah...i TRIED to use that patch the other day
Aug 28 01:05:32  @ziplock
Aug 28 01:05:34  so uh, anyone have a link/guide on how to overclock my TP to 1.7? Newb here.
Aug 28 01:05:39  great for downloading podcasts etc
Aug 28 01:05:44  and when i long pressed a video link...the option to DL it popped up
Aug 28 01:05:51  thank god, I listen to half a dozen podcasts a week, it would be nice to offload some of that from my phone to my touchpad
Aug 28 01:05:51  but when i pressed the DL "button"
Aug 28 01:05:53  http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-news/how-to-improve-the-performance-of-your-new-hp-touchpad/3866
Aug 28 01:05:53  nothing happened
Aug 28 01:06:03  glyff: Thanks.
Aug 28 01:06:18  any tips @ziplock ?
Aug 28 01:06:24  DrPoder gives option to download for offline but i dont think its updated for touchpad
Aug 28 01:06:36  this is irc not twitter
Aug 28 01:06:49  Logoboy kennethpenn's site has a better guide
Aug 28 01:06:51  try the multi mod patch ...
Aug 28 01:06:58  i did install that patch
Aug 28 01:07:09  http://briefmobile.com/speed-up-the-hp-touchpad
Aug 28 01:07:12  it just doesn't do anything when i click the DL option after long-pressing a link
Aug 28 01:07:12  now goto browser and click a mp3 link see what happen
Aug 28 01:07:17  aikiwoce_: nice, will read that first then.
Aug 28 01:07:19  dont long press
Aug 28 01:07:22  just try tap
Aug 28 01:07:25  ahhh roger
Aug 28 01:07:34  free advertising is the best advertising
Aug 28 01:07:39  ;)
Aug 28 01:07:43  but im pre user so it might not be exact on the TP .. getting mine tues
Aug 28 01:08:36  rhcp: ??
Aug 28 01:09:07  hey kennethpenn i use your atrix rom so it's only fair i advertise for you
Aug 28 01:09:19  wircding not to bad...
Aug 28 01:09:37  Woo, Kindle update.
Aug 28 01:09:47  @ziplock - quick press of a link only loads the file in a browser and streams it
Aug 28 01:10:08  yay no +m
Aug 28 01:10:08  long press gives a "Download Link" option
Aug 28 01:10:15  hi bbq
Aug 28 01:10:18  but selecting that does nuthin
Aug 28 01:10:20  :'(
Aug 28 01:10:24  hey md213 :D
Aug 28 01:10:28  weren't you in touchpad chan
Aug 28 01:10:36  oh you're in both
Aug 28 01:10:40  i was indeed
Aug 28 01:10:41  lol
Aug 28 01:10:43  well yeah...am
Aug 28 01:10:44  :P
Aug 28 01:10:51  i'm a multi-channel lover
Aug 28 01:10:53 * bb-q is everywhere like the fbi
Aug 28 01:11:22  uhh... I got a question
Aug 28 01:11:56  the "improve performance of your tp" guide says to run the programs downloaded from preware to improve your tp...
Aug 28 01:11:58  Damn, the wifi on the TP is slow as hell.
Aug 28 01:11:59  hey all
Aug 28 01:12:11  but I already downloaded them and i see no run button
Aug 28 01:12:11  fast for me
Aug 28 01:12:30  TellarHK did you install the download manager unthrottling patch?
Aug 28 01:12:31  Md213 sorry I got diconnected mu wifi sux
Aug 28 01:12:33  Using the Net Speed app in the HP App Store and it shows only 2.6Mbit
Aug 28 01:12:37  Yeah.
Aug 28 01:12:41  because it's throttled to 64k/s
Aug 28 01:12:42  Logo - patches don't need to be "run" they just need to be installed.
Aug 28 01:12:44  My connection is a 30M pipe.
Aug 28 01:13:05  kennethpenn: other than patches, the guide also says to download and run other things?
Aug 28 01:13:10  where's the best place to go for daily progress reports from devs.  Rootz wiki seems to be swimming in chatter
Aug 28 01:13:12  Like?
Aug 28 01:13:22  let me check again
Aug 28 01:13:41  "Unthrottle Download Manager" -- won't that unthrottle it?
Aug 28 01:13:45  in preware
Aug 28 01:14:38  I've got unthrottle and web pages don't load any faster
Aug 28 01:15:06  I think it's only for downloads
Aug 28 01:15:20  oh, just for downloads.  How to speed up page loading?  It's crap on touchpad
Aug 28 01:15:25  anyone ever drink Jerimiah Weed lemonade?
Aug 28 01:15:30  yup
Aug 28 01:15:37  good stuff
Aug 28 01:15:43  delicious... a little boozy tasting, but drinkable
Aug 28 01:16:05  Just do the normal patching and O/C. It's palatable after that's done.
Aug 28 01:16:08  to baad
Aug 28 01:16:09  is there a Twitter IPL for touchpad
Aug 28 01:16:09 * Ironsight is a bourbon man
Aug 28 01:16:12  dab doesn't come up
Aug 28 01:16:18  ipk
Aug 28 01:16:20  Let's see how my iPad 2 benches. Hmm.
Aug 28 01:16:25  IPL?
Aug 28 01:16:29  oh
Aug 28 01:16:32  I'm a 'Colt 45 - blast' guy, lol
Aug 28 01:16:38  spaz
Aug 28 01:16:51  Spaz HD Beta Preview 2 (in App Cat)
Aug 28 01:16:57  hey @Zip
Aug 28 01:17:01  (or any one here)
Aug 28 01:17:02  md213: adb?
Aug 28 01:17:04  12Mbit/sec on the iPad vs 2.6Mbit/sec on the TP.
Aug 28 01:17:05  Ouch.
Aug 28 01:17:12  where's Multi Mod?
Aug 28 01:17:27  touchapd network sucks ass
Aug 28 01:17:27  Apparently Netspeed is borked.
Aug 28 01:17:29  i don't see it on Preware
Aug 28 01:17:32  Which would be why it's speed is slower.
Aug 28 01:17:37  drops wifi connections causing u to have to restart router
Aug 28 01:17:43  TellarHK: they might not be using the best wifi driver
Aug 28 01:17:48  It could be the testing software, too.
Aug 28 01:17:59  Let's see if speedtest.net works on it natively.
Aug 28 01:18:06  BBQ I have not ran into that issue
Aug 28 01:18:12  bb-q, might wanna update your router's firmware then
Aug 28 01:18:16  what router?
Aug 28 01:18:16  i tried speakeasy test and it's as good as my desktop
Aug 28 01:18:28  but pages still load so slow.  and I'm ok'd to 1.7
Aug 28 01:18:39  is there an alternative browser in market/
Aug 28 01:18:45  yes
Aug 28 01:18:58  Okay, I blame the Netspeed app.
Aug 28 01:18:58  the touchpad sends a SYN flood to router
Aug 28 01:19:08  bb-q: wow
Aug 28 01:19:11  Getting roughly the same throughput on the TP using the Speedtest.net website.
Aug 28 01:19:18  But the site itself processes very slowly. :/
Aug 28 01:19:33  can you try a scp or something on the local network?
Aug 28 01:19:46  I'm getting 20 Mbps through speedtest... not bad at all
Aug 28 01:20:01  speedtest.net does even work on an ipad...
Aug 28 01:20:08  its too bad the bounty has made this into such a mess... no one wants to share information because they don't want others to win... this would be done so much faster if people would share and collaborate and help each other
Aug 28 01:20:09  cause of flash :D
Aug 28 01:20:09  flash
Aug 28 01:20:29  doesn't*
Aug 28 01:20:39  wtf internal drive is fat32?
Aug 28 01:20:46  tshomers just got told off in puredev
Aug 28 01:20:48  pretty funny
Aug 28 01:20:49  grandy: what are you looking for?
Aug 28 01:21:00  know
Aug 28 01:21:00  wait, the prash?
Aug 28 01:21:05  windows just sees it as fat32
Aug 28 01:21:10  they're in there arguing about the bounty still
Aug 28 01:21:10  yes TEH prash
Aug 28 01:21:11  cany copy a 4gb file to it
Aug 28 01:21:12  prash: yeah, same as a lot of android devices that export the internal disk to windows
Aug 28 01:21:13  b16 is goin ham in puredev
Aug 28 01:21:20  I saw that. I was like whoohoo!
Aug 28 01:21:33  I can speak again?
Aug 28 01:21:34  this is a good lesson... bounties are not good for big projects
Aug 28 01:21:39  ^
Aug 28 01:21:44  tmzt_: thast sad, I was trying to move a 8gb mkv file to watch :(
Aug 28 01:21:50  Bounty was the worst thing that happened to the Touchdroid project
Aug 28 01:21:53  tell that to firefox
Aug 28 01:21:55  I can't wait for it to get out of the way
Aug 28 01:22:00  and Gimpeh havent seen you in forever
Aug 28 01:22:02  mkv? and play it on what?
Aug 28 01:22:09  no shit doug
Aug 28 01:22:10  Ironsight: their bounties are for individual features
Aug 28 01:22:12  1080p mkv stutters in kalem
Aug 28 01:22:12  been along time
Aug 28 01:22:18  i need to learn to code
Aug 28 01:22:20  I've been lurking here and there
Aug 28 01:22:23  and that was only a 2 gig cartoon
Aug 28 01:22:24  Ironsight: there's not a bounty for who makes FF8 first... that would fragment everyone
Aug 28 01:22:25  been since unrevoked days though
Aug 28 01:22:28  bounty was a good idea....but lots of things work as IDEAS ie communism lol
Aug 28 01:22:34  lol yeah
Aug 28 01:22:35  ff8?
Aug 28 01:22:46  damn, I was gonna use it mostly for watching movies/shows and books
Aug 28 01:22:47  @tmzt_: firefox 8
Aug 28 01:22:51  and maybe themes
Aug 28 01:22:58  stick with xvid
Aug 28 01:23:07  and get video flood HD
Aug 28 01:23:11  i havent used firefox in awile.  chrome is where its at
Aug 28 01:23:15  alot of decent movies on there
Aug 28 01:23:29  the bounty would have worked for individual items... who could get the first dump... who could get the bootloader to load the kernel... who could get feature X to work... etc
Aug 28 01:23:32  firefox is still unusable on arm
Aug 28 01:23:37  as far I know
Aug 28 01:23:54  so whats the latest and greatest on Touch Droid?
Aug 28 01:23:57  but having the bounty for the whole project... no one person can do it quickly and efficiently... they need help from others... but the bounty doesn't encourage cooperation
Aug 28 01:24:04  dougpiston: btw which prash did you mean anyway?
Aug 28 01:24:19  I'd love to be able to pin cards to the launcher
Aug 28 01:24:23  why not work together and split the bounty
Aug 28 01:24:25  disband the bounty?
Aug 28 01:25:02  work together, does microsoft and apple work together?
Aug 28 01:25:11  thats different
Aug 28 01:25:19  @tmzt_: i said bounties don't work for big projects, Ironsight countered that firefox has bounties and it works for them... i said that's because they have bounties for individual features... FF8 was an example of what wouldn't work... you couldn't have a bounty for a whole release because it takes many people to do it
Aug 28 01:25:53  prash, https://github.com/prash <-- deadmau5 prash
Aug 28 01:25:54  they have bounties for security
Aug 28 01:25:55  They work together when they both have a dog in the fight
Aug 28 01:26:00  dougpiston: that'd be me
Aug 28 01:26:04  not features that I know about
Aug 28 01:26:11  i think it would be perfectly fine without a bounty, if someone contributes something to the community, then the community will donate appropriately
Aug 28 01:26:13  i like your style
Aug 28 01:26:26  once android is running on TP, bounties would work great for getting individual bugs fixed and adding new features.. because individuals can do those things without having to cooperate
Aug 28 01:26:29  Thanks :] havent worked on mau5 theme in a while, I'm doing Chroma now
Aug 28 01:26:31  deadmau5!!
Aug 28 01:26:32  mmm porterhouse
Aug 28 01:26:32  :D
Aug 28 01:27:10  Wonder what theming webos entails maybe I can port over mau5
Aug 28 01:27:13  @tmzt_: but that's my point... finding a security bug doesn't take a whole team... it takes one guy sifting through code.... he doesn't have to cooperate with others to get the bounty
Aug 28 01:27:21  not too fond of deadmau5
Aug 28 01:27:28  It's not about the money.  It's about the win.  When you work together & win, everyone gets paid
Aug 28 01:27:33  and paid well
Aug 28 01:27:39  @tmzt_: in this case, with trying to get android running... the best way to do so is to get everyone working together... not fragmenting everyone and duplicating work
Aug 28 01:27:40  I prefer his first few cds, newer stuff is sucky
Aug 28 01:27:48  well, those bountie things came later in the game
Aug 28 01:27:48  paid? by who?
Aug 28 01:27:49  regardless prash i enjoyed your work, have never had a chance to speak with you. so thanks mate
Aug 28 01:27:50  sure, but it also creates another market for that kind of work
Aug 28 01:28:04  what's the point of five people working on the exact same thing and not sharing information, when they could each be working on separate parts and getting it done way faster
Aug 28 01:28:18  ^win
Aug 28 01:28:22  ^
Aug 28 01:28:28  security bounty are a diff story cause white hats do that for a living
Aug 28 01:28:30  dougpiston: np, you can find me on twitter (ackprash) and plus (http://pra.sh/+) in case you need to contact me, I'm not usually hiding
Aug 28 01:28:31  the problem with bounties on something like this is no one ever can write the rules for the competition with knowledge of the future, so something always comes up that doesn't exactly fit into them
Aug 28 01:28:43  Gimpeh, ya unrevoked days. long time ago
Aug 28 01:29:08  people thought android would need to be ported from scratch when they wrote the rules
Aug 28 01:29:12  just watch... once the bounty is claimed... the drama will go away and development will move much, much faster
Aug 28 01:29:51  still no 2nd wave?
Aug 28 01:29:53  wow, a lot of people :)
Aug 28 01:30:10 * dougpiston 's opinion, boutny ruin all the fun
Aug 28 01:30:16  You go it.  Nobody can do this alone.  Not even Steve Jobs.
Aug 28 01:30:33  hey guys, where can I follow progress? I'm a bit dumb.
Aug 28 01:30:35  since the qcom recovery.img has been running so smooth…except adb
Aug 28 01:30:36  Jobs is busy trying not to die. :P
Aug 28 01:30:44  it CAN be done alone... but it will be much faster if a group works together on it
Aug 28 01:30:50  since he's not a programmer/engineer it might be hard
Aug 28 01:30:57  i would love to flash the whole system.img
Aug 28 01:31:00  Yep.
Aug 28 01:31:03  That was sall Woz.
Aug 28 01:31:18  steve creates his own bounties via salaries
Aug 28 01:31:21  Your ego thinks it can but in reality it can't
Aug 28 01:31:28  prash, added, you have a new stalker
Aug 28 01:31:32  tmzt_ how big is the qcom repo?
Aug 28 01:31:39  Flatspin: I don't know
Aug 28 01:31:43  I"m not using the ca stuff
Aug 28 01:31:51  mauimauer: doesn't adb require a driver on the PC side looking for the correct USB hardware ID?
Aug 28 01:31:58  Are you using ASOP?
Aug 28 01:32:06  glyff: on windows
Aug 28 01:32:15  yeah the hardware id has to be added to the adb driver inf file
Aug 28 01:32:20  Flatspin: currently cm and aosp, but they are on rhcp's machine and he already had them checked out
Aug 28 01:32:32  but it doesn't show up :(
Aug 28 01:32:42  stop using windows
Aug 28 01:32:46  Hi
Aug 28 01:32:47  mauimauer: the USB device doesn't show?
Aug 28 01:32:48  problem solved :)
Aug 28 01:32:48  oh ok, so the device doesn't show up at all
Aug 28 01:32:50  Ok.  thanks.  I'm up to 3.1g for the qcom repo.
Aug 28 01:33:06  mauimauer: as in, it doesn't show as a connected device in device manager, or it doesn't show in the list of adb connected devices?
Aug 28 01:33:12  nope…no usb device popping up if i boot recovery.img with android_otg
Aug 28 01:33:17  ah
Aug 28 01:33:19  glyff both
Aug 28 01:33:34  recovery.img?
Aug 28 01:33:42  guys, is there a web site I can follow to track the progress of this project?
Aug 28 01:33:43  did you extract thet kernel from there?
Aug 28 01:33:51  and really, are you trying to boot sensation or surf as is?
Aug 28 01:33:51  yes…as i said before
Aug 28 01:33:55  that won't work
Aug 28 01:34:03  tgudlek, it is early on so it will be in IRC most likely unless something big happens
Aug 28 01:34:04  i didn't split the kernel on my first run
Aug 28 01:34:09  ok
Aug 28 01:34:16  hi
Aug 28 01:34:27  hi
Aug 28 01:34:27  the second run booted just fine to that little droid with exclamation mark
Aug 28 01:34:32  hi
Aug 28 01:34:33  hi
Aug 28 01:34:37  i'm not too familiar with android yet... does recovery.img have a linux kernel that it boots?
Aug 28 01:34:40  rothnic: thanks for the info
Aug 28 01:35:04  glyff: recovery.img has a linux kernel, but not for tp
Aug 28 01:35:17  if so, does is that kernel compiled with, or have the right driver for, the TP's USB controller chip?
Aug 28 01:35:32  that's where I am unsure
Aug 28 01:35:32  *driver=module
Aug 28 01:35:36  it does or should
Aug 28 01:35:47  unless HP used an external transceiver
Aug 28 01:35:55  in which case you have to port the driver from tenderloin
Aug 28 01:36:06  Another option would be to see if the qcom repo has anything for that
Aug 28 01:36:15  i just replaced the rockhopper ogg with android_otg
Aug 28 01:36:15  is there an initrd in the recovery.img?
Aug 28 01:36:17  for tp?
Aug 28 01:36:22  Should be able to poke around and see what they are using in Webos
Aug 28 01:36:56  probably not
Aug 28 01:37:01  as said…i use menuconfig
Aug 28 01:37:14  wait
Aug 28 01:37:16  don't do that
Aug 28 01:37:17  and as an alternative to the rockhopper_gadget it offered android_gadget
Aug 28 01:37:23  just change the gadget to android gadget
Aug 28 01:37:29  but keep the otg the same
Aug 28 01:37:33  its funny... #PureDev is just filled with arguing and drama... and this channel is working on development
Aug 28 01:37:37  otg is hardware stuff (transceiver)
Aug 28 01:37:39  that's what i meant
Aug 28 01:37:51  sorry it's quite late for me ;)
Aug 28 01:38:00  i just replaced the gadget
Aug 28 01:38:11  glyff: I was just thinking the same lol
Aug 28 01:38:13  and removed android gadget mass storage
Aug 28 01:38:16  where did the recovery.img come from? the tp android dump?
Aug 28 01:38:19  I'm trsying that but waiting on rhcp to test it
Aug 28 01:38:22 * Ironsight shakes his fists to create synthetic drama
Aug 28 01:38:23  since that gave me build errors
Aug 28 01:38:48  mauimauer: right, it calls into some hoooks to switch on and off via /proc or /sys
Aug 28 01:38:52  it's not standard
Aug 28 01:38:55  Afternoon all.
Aug 28 01:39:11  god so much progress has been made and i've only been off irc/net for a day.
Aug 28 01:39:12  gg..
Aug 28 01:39:42  btw…i dl'ed my klog
Aug 28 01:39:53  can I see it?
Aug 28 01:39:57  but i don't know if it's actually my kernel boot log
Aug 28 01:39:59  mom
Aug 28 01:40:18  i should have gotten up early this morning and waited in line at BB... this would be funner if i actually had a TP to try this stuff on
Aug 28 01:40:35  are they selling them agian?
Aug 28 01:40:37  Glyff it wont be long until this all quiets down
Aug 28 01:40:39  http://pastebin.com/xbXHXLcm
Aug 28 01:40:41  and then ebay will be your best bet.
Aug 28 01:40:50  it was hit and miss at BB from what i read
Aug 28 01:40:55  some had them, some didn't
Aug 28 01:41:25  xiaomao: from what i understand, some of them are... best way is to wait until after close, then look at the inventory checker and look for stores that say "In Store Only" instead of "Unavailable" and then wait in line the next morning
Aug 28 01:41:29  my hardware hasnt arrived yet, bought off datavis  last saturday.. shakes fist at hurricane
Aug 28 01:41:53  What are you wanting to know about the usb device?
Aug 28 01:42:02  there was a store near me that said "In Store Only" last night... i didn't want to get up early and stand in line for two hours though
Aug 28 01:42:02  I have 3 Touchmads :D
Aug 28 01:42:06  xiaomao, mine was datavis on ebay...still don't have tracking number
Aug 28 01:42:07  pads*
Aug 28 01:42:17  I am MAD TABLET! RAWR!
Aug 28 01:42:27  :)
Aug 28 01:42:40  yeah mine was on ebay too.. though they have repeateldy stressed  that everyone will get it
Aug 28 01:42:44  ihazandroid: willing to sell one for a not-crazy price? 100-150% markup is insane
Aug 28 01:42:51  xiaomao, datavis?
Aug 28 01:42:55  yeah
Aug 28 01:42:59  same here
Aug 28 01:43:05  yeah he also said they would go out by last week, except for bulk orders
Aug 28 01:43:11  sorry glyff they are going to my girlfriend
Aug 28 01:43:17  yeah and then there as a hurricane evacuating nyc
Aug 28 01:43:24  I was lucky enough to be able to buy 3 touchpads from best buy yesterday
Aug 28 01:43:29  we should create a channel called #datavis lol
Aug 28 01:43:39  ihazandroid: one for each girlfriend?  :P
Aug 28 01:43:41  i feel bad for them, the got screwed
Aug 28 01:43:47  Maybe we should rename this project from Touchdroid to "Me, My Touchpad, and Irene"
Aug 28 01:43:50  best buy has a 1 touchpad per person limit
Aug 28 01:43:57  xiaomao, I know, datavis has the worst luck
Aug 28 01:44:05  yeah datavis' ebay account rating is going to plummet i bet
Aug 28 01:44:14  at least we aren't canceled yet *keeps fingers crossed*
Aug 28 01:44:17  i won't give them bad feedback, but i bet a lot will
Aug 28 01:44:18  anyone know a good professional case
Aug 28 01:44:25  Yes, I called 2 friends and they came to best buy and each bought 1 touchpad with my credit card... hence 3 touchpads
Aug 28 01:44:39  sneakyd, some people have reported success with ipad1 cases
Aug 28 01:44:49  yeah they have stressed that they have inventory to match every sale. its a reputable company so i believe them.
Aug 28 01:44:49  try them out at the store (best buy allows this)
Aug 28 01:44:55  got an officail case for 20 bucks
Aug 28 01:45:00  seriously, theres no other virtual keyboards?
Aug 28 01:45:11  xiaomao, anything else would be suicide for them
Aug 28 01:45:23  going for a last build tonight
Aug 28 01:45:48  prash, you could ask the makers of swype to make a port :)
Aug 28 01:46:09  I have a contact at swype, I may have to bug him now
Aug 28 01:46:10  does it have a snap handbook neat
Aug 28 01:46:26  i got all 3 tocuhpad accesories
Aug 28 01:46:28  and look*
Aug 28 01:46:42  So, out of curiosity what is the status of touchdroid?  is there a codebase that is working?  I am a developer and might be able to lend a hand.
Aug 28 01:46:48  mauimauer: what exactly are you building? aosp kernel?
Aug 28 01:46:51  while i wait for my touch pad to arrive i pass my time compiling rtp clients :-p
Aug 28 01:47:02  Touchdroid isn't ready yet.
Aug 28 01:47:07  nope…just the standard 2.6.35 kernel provided by palm
Aug 28 01:47:17  Okay
Aug 28 01:47:17  in a multi-file u-boot image
Aug 28 01:47:23  together with my recovery.img
Aug 28 01:47:42  mauimauer: oh, ok... sounds like vinylfreak89 got it working... hes talking about it in #PureDev
Aug 28 01:47:42  hoping that the device shows up
Aug 28 01:47:46  xiaomao, you were able to make a successful build enviroment?
Aug 28 01:48:05   /join #puredev
Aug 28 01:48:09  Anyone else get their touchpad from OnSale?
Aug 28 01:48:10  glyff what are they doing over there?
Aug 28 01:48:17  nah, sorry  not for webos
Aug 28 01:48:21  or touchpad related
Aug 28 01:48:25  he got his patched up to 2.6.35.10
Aug 28 01:48:44  ahh got ya
Aug 28 01:48:52  that might be a good idea…for the android related code in the kernel
Aug 28 01:49:22  well good luck guys
Aug 28 01:49:27  he says 2.6.35.10 is the vers used on the sensation... guess he's going to port stuff from that
Aug 28 01:49:50  sensation uses the same cpu...
Aug 28 01:50:00  but i don't know what else matches up
Aug 28 01:50:41  Can you tell what usb drivers it loads?
Aug 28 01:50:58  has anyone thought of doing a three way merge between the std linux kernel, the webos kernel and the android kernel? to get the HP mods into the android kernel?
Aug 28 01:51:17  there is basically no thing such as the android kernel
Aug 28 01:51:29  just various patched kernel trees
Aug 28 01:51:41  mauimauer: i had wondered that
Aug 28 01:51:50  the webs kernel is the one with all the necessary changes for the tp of course
Aug 28 01:51:53  isnt the andorid kernel  just  linux kernel with certain andorid specific augmentations
Aug 28 01:51:56  so is there a reason android won't run atop the webos kernel?
Aug 28 01:51:57  Maybe someone should try to contact Imoseyon for kernel work
Aug 28 01:52:13  while the qcom kernel tree seems to have a lot of msm8660 specific changes
Aug 28 01:52:17  But the WebOS kernel doesn't have whatever is needed for ADB, right?
Aug 28 01:52:23  glyff it probably will work
Aug 28 01:52:34  Flatspin…i don't see why not
Aug 28 01:52:37  we have to work it out
Aug 28 01:52:50  Since I can't get any logs from my booted recovery.img
Aug 28 01:52:55  That is what tmzt was reporting.
Aug 28 01:52:56  i simply don't know yet
Aug 28 01:53:26  out of curiosity, does the dump of the qualcomm andorid port actually boot if you put it on another system?
Aug 28 01:53:41  whyt system?
Aug 28 01:53:50  on another touchpad i mean
Aug 28 01:53:54  Do you know if the person who had the android TP ever tried adp?
Aug 28 01:53:56  it's just a build for a device not that unlike the tp
Aug 28 01:54:01  mauimauer: which kernel did you boot for that recovery image?
Aug 28 01:54:03  i know webos allows you to go in and change all the system files
Aug 28 01:54:16  dharix 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
Aug 28 01:54:57  without any android-specific changes?
Aug 28 01:55:10  there are no real android specific changes
Aug 28 01:55:15  just patches for the tp hardware
Aug 28 01:55:21  mostly it's stuff from qualcomm
Aug 28 01:55:29  and because there are also qcom android devices
Aug 28 01:55:40  it should support android gadget right out of the box
Aug 28 01:55:46  just give it time
Aug 28 01:56:10  I thought I'd poke around in the Qcom code but it's HUGE!!!
Aug 28 01:56:22  oh, ok.....so all that wakelock stuff, etc is in the palm-tenderloin kernel?
Aug 28 01:56:27  flatspin: source build/envsetup.sh
Aug 28 01:56:30  then choosecombo
Aug 28 01:56:31  3.6 gig and counting
Aug 28 01:56:34  msm8660_surf
Aug 28 01:56:48  It's still syncing
Aug 28 01:57:05  yeah it took me a while too ;)
Aug 28 01:57:09  on my 128mbit/s
Aug 28 01:57:11  ;)
Aug 28 01:57:23  crap.  can you du -sh and tell me how big it is?
Aug 28 01:57:45  10G
Aug 28 01:57:55  holy crap
Aug 28 01:57:58  wow..  I'm going to need more beer...
Aug 28 01:58:23  how did you people learn linux
Aug 28 01:58:36  i got catching up to do
Aug 28 01:59:02  Back in 1995 there was a pill you could take.
Aug 28 01:59:16  loooooool
Aug 28 01:59:27  But I think the FDA pulled it from the market so now you have to learn it the hard way.
Aug 28 01:59:48  looool+5
Aug 28 01:59:56  i've been using it since the mid 90s... back then i would just install it and then learn a bunch by trying to get everything to work right... now stuff just works out of the box
Aug 28 02:00:12  what glyff said for me too.
Aug 28 02:00:22  sound was always the funnest
Aug 28 02:00:30  I was building infrastructure during the dot com boom and linux was the way.
Aug 28 02:00:50  trial by fire..
Aug 28 02:01:09  which linux do you use
Aug 28 02:01:12  Now days there this fancy package management..
Aug 28 02:01:23  i use windows 7 - easy and less headache :P
Aug 28 02:01:28  i know its not linux!
Aug 28 02:01:28  i am staring at this for 2 hours now...
Aug 28 02:01:30  https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iWbX3P-BS_w/TlmCMkj_zEI/AAAAAAAABLA/2ZlegLe8pbQ/s576/IMG_20110828_014725.jpg
Aug 28 02:01:33  it's driving me nuts
Aug 28 02:01:36  I run Ubuntu...
Aug 28 02:01:46  The FDA is attempting to ban things such as walk-in humidors...
Aug 28 02:01:57  What bullshit this is...
Aug 28 02:01:59  You should stop staring at it then..
Aug 28 02:02:09  still building the kernel
Aug 28 02:02:18  install arch, start swimming
Aug 28 02:02:19  i might switch to a real device tomorrow
Aug 28 02:02:26  best way to learn linux
Aug 28 02:02:28  damn vm
Aug 28 02:02:39  I have two touchpad :)
Aug 28 02:02:41  im so lucky
Aug 28 02:02:54 * Flatspin can only use one at a time so...
Aug 28 02:03:04  n00buntu is sppon fed linux
Aug 28 02:03:28  even more so on the latest version
Aug 28 02:03:33  I can't stand unity
Aug 28 02:03:44  unity is horrific
Aug 28 02:04:12  Google's Eric Schmidt criticises education in the UK
Aug 28 02:04:19  windowmaker for life!
Aug 28 02:04:22  I agree with him
Aug 28 02:04:31  unity makes me want to gouge my eyes out
Aug 28 02:04:31  USA and Japan is away head
Aug 28 02:04:58  i say unity sux ass yet i use gnome3 right now
Aug 28 02:05:18  Gnustep+windowmaker ..
Aug 28 02:05:24  its like using a mac :D
Aug 28 02:05:26  openbox is where it is at'
Aug 28 02:05:30  Ice_Black : as do I
Aug 28 02:05:45  It is spoon fed linux.  But I ran Slackware enough and I'm busy now..
Aug 28 02:06:00  lulz
Aug 28 02:06:32  My kids and wife have never used Windows.
Aug 28 02:06:54  Flatspin : 0_o
Aug 28 02:06:59  lol
Aug 28 02:07:00  never?
Aug 28 02:07:03  do they live in a cave?
Aug 28 02:07:24  with macbook pro's on sight
Aug 28 02:07:42  guys give me an idea of somthing to do with the domain i just bought out of randomness.
Aug 28 02:07:43  No.  Well maybe my oldest did use some at school once.  She said something about them being rather prone to crashing..
Aug 28 02:07:48  Flatspin, well done
Aug 28 02:07:50  www.touchmypad.com
Aug 28 02:07:53  ideas kgo
Aug 28 02:08:04  my son wont except at school
Aug 28 02:08:07  lol
Aug 28 02:08:11  the wife is a lost cause
Aug 28 02:08:19  dont use red when designing it
Aug 28 02:08:24  lol
Aug 28 02:08:25  but she has the vagina so what can i do?
Aug 28 02:08:26  The wife's normally are...
Aug 28 02:08:30  lol
Aug 28 02:09:21  dougpiston : rofl
Aug 28 02:09:52  its the truf, vag gets what vag wants. no questions asked
Aug 28 02:10:35  If it werent for windows I wouldnt eat
Aug 28 02:10:48  Where is Jiwanish ?
Aug 28 02:10:53  the wife and I have come to an understanding, if she expects me to fix her computer, I expect her to make dinner.
Aug 28 02:10:55  does he come here
Aug 28 02:11:00  do*
Aug 28 02:11:51  Gimpeh, disable updates, shit wont break
Aug 28 02:11:55  I'll even plant a malicious batch file from time to time to ensure I get food
Aug 28 02:12:03  ahaha
Aug 28 02:12:38  but srs face, wanna learn linux, set it up. arch is the way to go
Aug 28 02:12:52  I made a simple one that just stops explorer.exe...then renamed it to internet Explorer and changed the icon
Aug 28 02:13:15  any time she starts bitching about making dinner, I move it over lol
Aug 28 02:13:24  speaking of, i hijacked the wifes explorer.exe, PC is proper fukt at the moment
Aug 28 02:13:32  i just block her internet in the router
Aug 28 02:13:38  and tell her "ill fix it while you cook dinner"
Aug 28 02:13:44  lol
Aug 28 02:13:48  "need time to figure out what's up"
Aug 28 02:13:56  omg
Aug 28 02:13:58  classic
Aug 28 02:14:02  yeah
Aug 28 02:14:03  netsend * DINNER TIME
Aug 28 02:14:04  why had i not thought of that
Aug 28 02:14:13  lol
Aug 28 02:14:16  we have the most "unstable" internet in the neighborhood
Aug 28 02:14:24  I gotta figure out how to put sex in the deal
Aug 28 02:14:45  wont work until you can have sex and RDP to a server at the same time
Aug 28 02:14:46  like the pros
Aug 28 02:14:54  Gimpeh, i have a 2 year old, sex is outa the question, ill take the dinner please
Aug 28 02:15:00  lol
Aug 28 02:15:08  gn8 everyone
Aug 28 02:15:09  I got a 18 month old so I feel ya
Aug 28 02:15:24  fucking terrors i tell ya
Aug 28 02:15:32  It is nearly Sehri time here
Aug 28 02:15:41  anytime my wife starts talking about having kids i just turn her internet off there too
Aug 28 02:15:44  can't talk about that now
Aug 28 02:15:46  gotta fix the tubes
Aug 28 02:15:50  LOL!
Aug 28 02:16:00  muff, you're my new hero
Aug 28 02:16:08  wait til they're teens lol you will want a rewind button
Aug 28 02:16:12  i lok up to you good sir
Aug 28 02:17:00  back guys
Aug 28 02:17:02  sorry for the delay
Aug 28 02:17:07  so booting kernel is a good sign
Aug 28 02:17:17  DisHP_, by then im hopeing he will will have hawt friends to perv on
Aug 28 02:17:23  wait
Aug 28 02:17:27  lol doug
Aug 28 02:17:29  Where are you now? which stage
Aug 28 02:17:30  did i just type that
Aug 28 02:17:33  so fill me in
Aug 28 02:17:36  almost there?
Aug 28 02:17:36  tmzt_: still alive? :)
Aug 28 02:17:54  rhcp, congrats on opening this place up
Aug 28 02:17:58  np man
Aug 28 02:18:13  mucho gracias
Aug 28 02:18:21  testing out wircd
Aug 28 02:18:40  ya, that was a bit much
Aug 28 02:18:44  things are working well now
Aug 28 02:18:45  no more bs
Aug 28 02:18:47  jb quick
Aug 28 02:18:48  er
Aug 28 02:18:49  quit
Aug 28 02:18:58  I think the booting cwm shut him up
Aug 28 02:19:06  so things are working out
Aug 28 02:19:07  :)
Aug 28 02:19:11  good
Aug 28 02:19:17  now sell me a touch
Aug 28 02:19:19  whats working?
Aug 28 02:19:21  nao
Aug 28 02:19:22  Has anyone looked at the nook kernel diff files for adb?
Aug 28 02:19:24  i need on
Aug 28 02:19:26  1
Aug 28 02:19:27  Ill do what i can. soon as i get it
Aug 28 02:19:31  ifi get it
Aug 28 02:19:32  booting cwm woot
Aug 28 02:19:42  follow me on twitter to find out
Aug 28 02:19:44  @rhcp011235
Aug 28 02:19:58  i know your twiiter account foo
Aug 28 02:20:13  im doug fucking piston, i know everything
Aug 28 02:20:32  859 followers
Aug 28 02:20:35  wow
Aug 28 02:20:41  likei know its time fo another drink
Aug 28 02:20:44  i got 500
Aug 28 02:20:49  i have 5
Aug 28 02:20:51  doug, more hitting best buy this week, and HP home and home office too
Aug 28 02:21:13  Gimpeh, i wish, no time
Aug 28 02:21:21  climbing a mountain
Aug 28 02:21:21  work gave me two
Aug 28 02:21:27  so I was lucky
Aug 28 02:21:39  tonight is my last free night for the week
Aug 28 02:22:05  also keep checking expansys-usa.com i got 3 from them and they plan to get more
Aug 28 02:22:55  im sure ill just buy one on craiglist when i get back this weekend
Aug 28 02:23:20  ones on cl here are 250+ for the 16
Aug 28 02:23:24  i had bajillion chances to get one but ofcourse now i want one
Aug 28 02:23:30  lol
Aug 28 02:23:43  they're more expensive on CL here than on eBay
Aug 28 02:23:50  wow
Aug 28 02:23:51  not in seattle
Aug 28 02:24:09  i don't understand why people would by a 16GB TP for $220-250
Aug 28 02:24:10  200 for a 32
Aug 28 02:24:23  this is crazy here http://www.ebay.com/itm/230664585087?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Aug 28 02:24:28  im good with that
Aug 28 02:24:36  portland craiglist is going up to 300 now for tp
Aug 28 02:24:48  yeah, 200 for a 32gb is a reasonable price
Aug 28 02:24:52  ziplock503, from portland
Aug 28 02:24:54  ?
Aug 28 02:25:02  yeah
Aug 28 02:25:36  well Vancouver WA right over the bridge lol
Aug 28 02:25:37  few pills of e + rum + acropolis = so much win
Aug 28 02:25:47  acrop LOL
Aug 28 02:25:52  hell yeah
Aug 28 02:26:06  or exotica
Aug 28 02:26:17  are those three rectangles that i see in all the TP pics painted onto the screen or is that something webos overlays?
Aug 28 02:26:25  portland go more strip clubs per capita then any city
Aug 28 02:26:29  got
Aug 28 02:26:31   I between your tweetz
Aug 28 02:26:36  ive spent thousnads at sapphire in vegas does not even com close to a couple hundo at the acrop
Aug 28 02:26:55  i been to sapphire ... shit portland they take the panties off lol
Aug 28 02:27:05  I paid 240 for 32 but that was driven to my house last sunday
Aug 28 02:27:06  was fuckin nuts
Aug 28 02:27:31  portland got mad strippers lol
Aug 28 02:27:59  acrop got good food also ROFL
Aug 28 02:28:05 * dougpiston grabs keys, ziplock503 lets meet up
Aug 28 02:28:12  lol
Aug 28 02:28:56  titty bars in seattle = the suxorz
Aug 28 02:29:16  yeah all washington strip clubs are wack .. no real lap dances
Aug 28 02:29:23  yeah we got good strip clubs here in portland. they are fucking everywhere
Aug 28 02:29:35  hell yea slayer
Aug 28 02:29:42  stippers and tax free nike town lol
Aug 28 02:29:46  going to sunset strip tomorrow night after rockfest
Aug 28 02:30:02  ziplock503, xSLAYERx  im on my way
Aug 28 02:30:08  cant wait for hempstalk in sept
Aug 28 02:30:13  wow this convo took an unexpected turn
Aug 28 02:30:31  can anyone fill me in. with the latest uimage from tmzt_ ?
Aug 28 02:30:32  Portlandia /shrug
Aug 28 02:30:34  please
Aug 28 02:30:40  I was kept out with dinner and what not
Aug 28 02:30:40  Korn and titties tomorrow night . YaY!
Aug 28 02:30:44  took longer then expencted
Aug 28 02:31:04  paying for women...yea never understood that
Aug 28 02:31:16  and I'm no hot stuff
Aug 28 02:31:26  maybe when you grow up
Aug 28 02:31:30  jk
Aug 28 02:31:45  your paying them to leave /wink
Aug 28 02:31:54  well ya see, im not paying for the women, otherwise i would have to listen to all the crap that comes out her mouth. im paying for the titties.
Aug 28 02:32:02  topic guys ;)
Aug 28 02:32:20  im done :)
Aug 28 02:32:25  yes please
Aug 28 02:32:30  oh ya sorry, my bad. stay on topic. i dont mean to distract the devs with tittie talk. my bad.
Aug 28 02:32:38  :)
Aug 28 02:32:43  Soooo hows the kernal cracking
Aug 28 02:32:43  Rhcp at least they aren't fighting lol
Aug 28 02:32:59  they said there was a successful port already
Aug 28 02:33:04  is that true?
Aug 28 02:33:11  2003 suburban + hurricane = profit
Aug 28 02:33:11  in a sense yes.
Aug 28 02:33:20  im waiting for some dual boot goodness mmm
Aug 28 02:33:34  jbruchon jbruchon
Aug 28 02:33:35  @
Aug 28 02:33:35  @ylibrach I'm saying a port already exists. Just wait. :-)
Aug 28 02:33:48  that is what jbruchon said
Aug 28 02:33:58  that is quick
Aug 28 02:34:09  Jbruchon called quits a couple of hours ago
Aug 28 02:34:25  who did the porting?
Aug 28 02:34:28  which team?
Aug 28 02:35:08  vistazifta88: +1
Aug 28 02:35:12  I read that eARlier today but it said it was shoddy
Aug 28 02:35:12  its a mad dash for the cash .. cut throat
Aug 28 02:35:16  no team.I and tmtz
Aug 28 02:35:18  for the most part
Aug 28 02:35:24  people chimed in :)
Aug 28 02:35:31  good
Aug 28 02:35:32  im trying to get the latest news.
Aug 28 02:35:33  thank you
Aug 28 02:35:38  since i was gone for a few hrs
Aug 28 02:35:50  when will the stable version come out?
Aug 28 02:36:01  cai, come on
Aug 28 02:36:02  cai: only time will tell
Aug 28 02:36:09  dont ask those things
Aug 28 02:36:10  ok
Aug 28 02:36:11  Haha and all the fighting for $700 u can barely buy nan iPad with that lol
Aug 28 02:36:15  alright
Aug 28 02:36:18  just curious
Aug 28 02:36:28  no one knows
Aug 28 02:36:36  if its before OCT ill be amazed .. good luck ppl
Aug 28 02:36:44  Cai: when devs r asked they get annoyed and fed up
Aug 28 02:36:53  ok
Aug 28 02:36:56  no questions
Aug 28 02:36:59  whatever
Aug 28 02:37:04  I can use webos anyway
Aug 28 02:37:07  personally im just waiting on someone who talked to tmtz :)
Aug 28 02:37:09  its like the lil kid asking ARE WE THERE YET?
Aug 28 02:37:29  after overclocking and optimization  webos is not that bad
Aug 28 02:37:42  I just can't wait for an app player :]
Aug 28 02:37:47  just lacking apps ... but i can deal
Aug 28 02:37:52  Tmtz Was here less then an hour ago
Aug 28 02:37:55  Is anyone working on an android player rather than a full port?
Aug 28 02:38:03  no
Aug 28 02:38:31  cai: I haven't oc'd mine
Aug 28 02:38:48  you wanna know how to do it?
Aug 28 02:38:53  sperman
Aug 28 02:38:56  ?
Aug 28 02:39:01  ik how to do it
Aug 28 02:39:03  just didn't
Aug 28 02:39:06  k
Aug 28 02:39:06  govnah and uberkernel
Aug 28 02:39:15  try it
Aug 28 02:39:22  it will speed up your touchpad somehow
Aug 28 02:39:25  I did for a few mins a few days ago
Aug 28 02:39:53  don't forget to kill all the logging
Aug 28 02:40:04  yup
Aug 28 02:40:13  Check out smoth7081 he just put up a link to a vid of his progress in #puredev
Aug 28 02:40:24  that is what optimization means :)
Aug 28 02:40:30  I had installed the patches earlier, but not the logs, or EOM
Aug 28 02:40:31  vistazifta88: incase you have not read the topic
Aug 28 02:40:34  no spam
Aug 28 02:40:35  http://data0.eklablog.com/noobuntu/mod_article1213125_1.png?365
Aug 28 02:40:37  last warning
Aug 28 02:40:41  my bad
Aug 28 02:41:02  Sorry
Aug 28 02:41:08  k
Aug 28 02:41:26  rhcp, we good. continue
Aug 28 02:41:38  well im trying to see whats up
Aug 28 02:41:42  rhcp: I am a noob, but how to start learning this kind of cool staff
Aug 28 02:41:44  i need to check tmtz's dir
Aug 28 02:41:47  jailbreak and porting
Aug 28 02:41:50  cai: read books
Aug 28 02:41:55  what book
Aug 28 02:41:59  grad a good school
Aug 28 02:42:00  etc
Aug 28 02:42:00  :)
Aug 28 02:42:01  recommendation?
Aug 28 02:42:15  I think I could not grad a good school
Aug 28 02:42:16  most programmers I know are self taught
Aug 28 02:42:30  I am a math student
Aug 28 02:42:40  just start my master in CS this semester
Aug 28 02:42:47  yeah
Aug 28 02:42:55  i just learned from force
Aug 28 02:42:56  tbh
Aug 28 02:42:56  cai, grab a java book
Aug 28 02:43:01  I self taught c++, obc and algorithm
Aug 28 02:43:03  and linux
Aug 28 02:43:14  you will be on your way
Aug 28 02:43:15  eliteests woulnt share. and always go RTFM
Aug 28 02:43:19  so i said fuck them
Aug 28 02:43:19  But I do not have a broad view
Aug 28 02:43:20  and beat them
Aug 28 02:43:22  :P
Aug 28 02:43:24  •cai• heres a start http://google.com
Aug 28 02:43:26  to see where I should start
Aug 28 02:43:27  now they ask me
Aug 28 02:43:28  rhcp: hey I was gone what happened with your boot?
Aug 28 02:43:36  i was gone too
Aug 28 02:43:37  I know google
Aug 28 02:43:42  thats why im trying to get back info here
Aug 28 02:43:43  but what I should search
Aug 28 02:43:45  last night
Aug 28 02:43:51  I searched ROM
Aug 28 02:43:55  Porting
Aug 28 02:43:55  android, linux, etc
Aug 28 02:43:57  thins
Aug 28 02:43:59  java + linux = android
Aug 28 02:44:10  simple
Aug 28 02:44:10  good explanation thanks
Aug 28 02:44:34  cai, was the only explanation i got
Aug 28 02:44:48  ok thank you anywat
Aug 28 02:44:50  if you self taught c++ should be a none issue
Aug 28 02:45:05  just sayin
Aug 28 02:45:12  Aren't kernels mostly c++ and c#?
Aug 28 02:45:12  Finally got Qcom repo pulled.  8.9 gig.  compiling now
Aug 28 02:45:30  Flatspin: you got any info as to what was tested while i was gone
Aug 28 02:45:30  But I just need know where I should start and what book I should start
Aug 28 02:45:32  import h
Aug 28 02:45:34  I need a direction
Aug 28 02:45:36  you know
Aug 28 02:45:36  you said someone tested it
Aug 28 02:45:59  I could not just look around for nothing
Aug 28 02:46:13  cai, you looking for a kernel dev book?
Aug 28 02:46:17  let me look back.  Someone had it booting but no adb
Aug 28 02:46:17  cai, im not going to argue with you, ive suggested where to start
Aug 28 02:46:19  maybe
Aug 28 02:46:32  Flatspin: thanks
Aug 28 02:46:33  maybe that is what I am looking for?
Aug 28 02:46:36  I am not sure
Aug 28 02:46:38  I need to know what u-image and how long ago
Aug 28 02:46:41  I can try that first
Aug 28 02:46:41  its all done on my box
Aug 28 02:46:41  so
Aug 28 02:46:51   i am staring at this for 2 hours now...
Aug 28 02:46:51   https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iWbX3P-BS_w/TlmCMkj_zEI/AAAAAAAABLA/2ZlegLe8pbQ/s576/IMG_20110828_014725.jpg
Aug 28 02:46:58  I'm reading linux kernel development by Robert love, its pretty good so far at explaining all aspects
Aug 28 02:47:09  hmmz
Aug 28 02:47:11  thats not booting
Aug 28 02:47:21 * rhcp confused :)
Aug 28 02:47:22  did adb start?
Aug 28 02:47:27  we were not trying
Aug 28 02:47:32  Yep.  I think tmzt_ may have had something booting but it's scrolled off my screen
Aug 28 02:47:34  just to get to a working android boot
Aug 28 02:47:59  is it ok for beginner?
Aug 28 02:48:06  I mean I just know some programming
Aug 28 02:48:14  no knowledge in OS yet
Aug 28 02:48:22  get it to semi-boot with adb = many answers with logcat
Aug 28 02:48:35  sup fuckers
Aug 28 02:48:37  dougpiston: if i knew where i was
Aug 28 02:48:38  i could
Aug 28 02:48:39  fuck you
Aug 28 02:48:39  :)
Aug 28 02:48:41  sup ProTekk
Aug 28 02:48:43  it has some code examples but it goes over concepts of process scheduling, system calls, etc
Aug 28 02:48:50  problem is both people are not her e:)
Aug 28 02:48:50  rhcp, not you
Aug 28 02:48:52  dougpiston howdy
Aug 28 02:48:54  ProTekk,
Aug 28 02:48:57  hey ProTekk  fuck you
Aug 28 02:49:02  Sid69!
Aug 28 02:49:03  <3
Aug 28 02:49:10  omg
Aug 28 02:49:10  much love brah
Aug 28 02:49:16  Sid69, is here
Aug 28 02:49:19  umm, cai, wanna pm me and we can take the chat off of this channel?
Aug 28 02:49:24  kill me please
Aug 28 02:49:24  oh yes I am
Aug 28 02:49:28  Sid69 is here...my life is complete
Aug 28 02:49:39  I have a touchpad UNLIKE YOU dogs pissin
Aug 28 02:49:45  ProTekk: everyone is here now
Aug 28 02:49:46  lol
Aug 28 02:49:46  Sid69 I HAZ 3!
Aug 28 02:49:54  sick
Aug 28 02:49:59  whats the current chan total?
Aug 28 02:50:01  im on irssi
Aug 28 02:50:04  dont feel like cycle
Aug 28 02:50:06  I'm actually kinda diggin webOS
Aug 28 02:50:12  Sid69, same
Aug 28 02:50:17  Sid69: same :)
Aug 28 02:50:23  webos is thoroughly surprising and in a good sense
Aug 28 02:50:31 * rwhitby chuckles
Aug 28 02:50:36  396
Aug 28 02:50:37  actually it is pretty decent
Aug 28 02:50:40  noobs
Aug 28 02:50:43  rwhitby: sup man
Aug 28 02:50:44  rwhitby you're a total ghost lol
Aug 28 02:50:46  webOS is decent BUT no apps
Aug 28 02:50:48  after you OC it and drop all the bullshit logging lil fucker is fast
Aug 28 02:50:49  you see the progress?
Aug 28 02:51:01  we figured out our problem :P
Aug 28 02:51:01  Looks like you guys got some great shit done today... congrats!
Aug 28 02:51:05  teo small commands lol
Aug 28 02:51:08  two
Aug 28 02:51:16  yeah they need some mass conversion of apps
Aug 28 02:51:18  get a real client, not irrisi
Aug 28 02:51:34  i'll cut ya all
Aug 28 02:51:34  they kicked you out of the dev team rhcp ?
Aug 28 02:51:41  Sid69: no
Aug 28 02:51:43  i kicked them out
Aug 28 02:51:43  :)
Aug 28 02:51:46  and made a few quit
Aug 28 02:51:49  you said they figured out the problem
Aug 28 02:51:59  yes tmtz my friend who i called apon
Aug 28 02:52:08  upon
Aug 28 02:52:11  yeah he's pretty bitter about the whole deal
Aug 28 02:52:12  err
Aug 28 02:52:13  lol
Aug 28 02:52:15  grammer nazi
Aug 28 02:52:19  :)
Aug 28 02:52:23  grammar*
Aug 28 02:52:24  fuck, i'm tired
Aug 28 02:52:25  :)
Aug 28 02:52:30  ProTekk: me too bro
Aug 28 02:52:30  LOL
Aug 28 02:52:32  3 days no sleep
Aug 28 02:52:35  and waking at 10 am
Aug 28 02:52:38  BLOWS
Aug 28 02:52:40  stop pouring the coals to your old lady ProTekk  and yo wouldn't have that issue
Aug 28 02:52:43  go to bed at 6
Aug 28 02:52:45  up at 10
Aug 28 02:53:26  how old are you rhcp
Aug 28 02:53:27  hmmz im surprised he didnt pm me before going
Aug 28 02:53:28  It's 5:50am here and iv been following since agout 1 lol
Aug 28 02:53:28  im 29
Aug 28 02:53:40  that is not good
Aug 28 02:53:59  staying late for a 29 old man is not good
Aug 28 02:54:08  trust me i feel it
Aug 28 02:54:11  I know that
Aug 28 02:54:14  hey
Aug 28 02:54:17  wait til ya hit 34  :P
Aug 28 02:54:18  29 is fkn young
Aug 28 02:54:18  I am almost as old as you
Aug 28 02:54:19  haha
Aug 28 02:54:21  :)
Aug 28 02:54:42  Rhcp he stayed on extra waiting for u but liked u said u got delayed
Aug 28 02:54:56  no i mean he didnt pm me wha tto test
Aug 28 02:54:58  i dono::)
Aug 28 02:55:09  cai: http://stid.googlecode.com/files/Linux.Kernel.Development.3rd.Edition.pdf
Aug 28 02:55:22  i am looking at the book
Aug 28 02:55:26  but thank you so much
Aug 28 02:55:31  spencerelliott
Aug 28 02:55:34  Im looking at his shell. the last image was 2hrs ago
Aug 28 02:55:40  I'm just stating facts
Aug 28 02:55:40  which is prob correct
Aug 28 02:55:43  let me try to boot it
Aug 28 02:55:44  Sid69 I'm still young, and I'm 42.
Aug 28 02:55:44  np :)
Aug 28 02:56:06  so is touchdroid past the minimal android interface?
Aug 28 02:56:07  :)  u r funny EdLin
Aug 28 02:56:36  I turn 42 in 2 days EdLin
Aug 28 02:56:58  
Aug 28 02:57:16  Sid69 figured you had the 69 either because you were a sicko, or you were born in the same year as me. ;-)
Aug 28 02:57:22  heh
Aug 28 02:57:28  Sid 6.9
Aug 28 02:57:32  im 16
Aug 28 02:57:35  You are obviously not a movie guy. ;)
Aug 28 02:57:49  Sorry my client and web r both crap that's what happens when u use jailbroken iPhone on neighbors wifi
Aug 28 02:58:00  hmmz seems to be last one we had
Aug 28 02:58:02  1st issue: iPhone
Aug 28 02:58:02  broken graphics
Aug 28 02:58:15  2nd issue: Cheap bastard.
Aug 28 02:58:20  TellarHK google doesn't tell me anything about Sid 6.9
Aug 28 02:58:22  haha
Aug 28 02:58:27  Virtuosity
Aug 28 02:58:29  for sure TellarHK
Aug 28 02:58:31  TellarHK other than some 6.9 version stuff in Debian
Aug 28 02:58:43  Yeah, the movie is 'Virtuosity'.
Aug 28 02:58:58  And I've gotta say, Sid. It wasn't _that_ good a movie. ;)
Aug 28 02:59:09  sorry brag I'll try better next time
Aug 28 02:59:09  ahaha
Aug 28 02:59:10  anyone able to get their touchpad to connect to an adhoc network or any workarounds out there?
Aug 28 02:59:13  brah even
Aug 28 02:59:15  :D
Aug 28 02:59:20  is the touchdroid project beyond a minimal kernel?
Aug 28 02:59:28  haha
Aug 28 02:59:29  Id say
Aug 28 02:59:30  Toxinate I want to know the same thing
Aug 28 02:59:43  my phone does ad-hoc wifi
Aug 28 02:59:44  Guys, how would I start Unity from the command line/
Aug 28 02:59:44  min kernels dont boot android recoverys :P
Aug 28 02:59:46  If you're getting adhoc network from iPhone tethering, use MyWi instead of whatever else
Aug 28 02:59:49  this project is a fkn crash test
Aug 28 02:59:51  it makes real tethering
Aug 28 02:59:51  Yeah, the Touchpad is pretty useless to me without being able to attach to my tethering Droid.
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