**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 02 02:59:57 2011 Sep 02 03:00:10 Pokemon Yellow Sep 02 03:00:13 is freshh Sep 02 03:00:13 :p Sep 02 03:00:26 that was the only pokemon i have ever played Sep 02 03:00:40 never got into the card game. i got introduced to MTG Sep 02 03:00:55 played that for 3 years then quit all together once i realize it was a really nasty money sink Sep 02 03:01:35 pokemon card game has to be the most horribly set up game ever Sep 02 03:01:35 lol Sep 02 03:01:49 did you get Quell free? Sep 02 03:02:01 lol i never cared to play it. i think i was fine playing it in private, but i would never want to be caught playing pokemon in public.. even as a kid Sep 02 03:02:06 ofcourse i did Sep 02 03:02:12 I played oregon trail as a child Sep 02 03:02:15 Best game ever. Sep 02 03:02:19 i was going to say... Sep 02 03:02:35 i'm old... my kids don't even play pokemon anymore... Sep 02 03:02:53 dude... oregon trail was a punch in the nuts Sep 02 03:02:55 yea oregon trail on apple Sep 02 03:02:59 that game was so fucking hard Sep 02 03:03:08 oregon trail... pack an extra axle Sep 02 03:03:11 go hunt bears Sep 02 03:03:42 die from snake bite Sep 02 03:03:58 get dysentry Sep 02 03:04:08 I think indians always got me Sep 02 03:04:31 i get the snake bite the most Sep 02 03:04:35 dysentry was rare Sep 02 03:04:50 for me Sep 02 03:11:35 Hi Sep 02 03:16:30 anyone know if google earth for android can do th Sep 02 03:16:35 hi guys Sep 02 03:16:41 e space mode? Sep 02 03:17:01 why I could not use flashplayer in LXDE of Ubuntu on Touchpad Sep 02 03:20:57 because flash is only for intel/AMD Sep 02 03:23:04 hji al Sep 02 03:23:10 hi all Sep 02 03:23:20 no you may not ask for progress. there's a link for it :) Sep 02 03:23:31 wasnt going to Sep 02 03:23:32 :) Sep 02 03:23:46 lol just kidding with ya :) Sep 02 03:23:58 :D Sep 02 03:24:00 anyone know how to package resource and data to a .pka? Sep 02 03:24:27 i got this app compiled, ready to install Sep 02 03:24:34 it creates a pka Sep 02 03:24:37 .pka Sep 02 03:24:56 but i still need to manually copy the data to the sdcard Sep 02 03:25:12 is there a way to nicely package everything into one self-contained .pka? Sep 02 03:27:32 hello???? Sep 02 03:28:03 <-- not a dev. also dont have the knowledge about that Sep 02 03:28:16 newerth: check in #webos-internals Sep 02 03:28:24 ok Sep 02 03:28:25 those guys would know more Sep 02 03:28:33 newerth: : you play hon? Sep 02 03:28:36 yea Sep 02 03:28:38 love HoN Sep 02 03:28:39 :D Sep 02 03:28:49 I'm a linux newerth orc! Sep 02 03:29:04 swiftblade is my favorite Sep 02 03:29:18 im still getting the game though Sep 02 03:29:28 get killed every five seconds Sep 02 03:29:30 :) Sep 02 03:29:36 heh Sep 02 03:31:27 http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v29/c314/1.html Sep 02 03:31:29 oops Sep 02 03:31:57 any progress on touchdroid? Sep 02 03:31:59 :D Sep 02 03:32:15 lol Sep 02 03:33:32 lol derp Sep 02 03:33:39 progress derp Sep 02 03:34:03 "NO WE CAN'T: 1- Use dump drivers 2- Use WebOS Drivers, and DO NOT ASK FOR STATUS." Sep 02 03:34:51 GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY Sep 02 03:34:59 what? Sep 02 03:35:06 YOURE GIVING AWAY TOUCHPADS???? Sep 02 03:35:26 we aren't getting permabanned? Sep 02 03:35:49 you just saved a bunch of money on insurance by swithcing to geico? Sep 02 03:35:56 :d Sep 02 03:36:18 YOU HAVE BEEN CHOSEN FOR A DELIEVERY MISSION TO TRISOL Sep 02 03:36:41 WE'RE DELIEVERING POPCORN Sep 02 03:36:52 hello? Sep 02 03:37:02 cryptic much? Sep 02 03:37:03 futurama Sep 02 03:37:04 so classic Sep 02 03:37:10 hi Sep 02 03:37:16 I was wondering Sep 02 03:37:27 if I can help Sep 02 03:37:33 with touchdroid Sep 02 03:37:36 What are your certifications? Sep 02 03:37:45 I dont have any Sep 02 03:37:49 mills Sep 02 03:37:55 what Sep 02 03:38:00 you can help all you want Sep 02 03:38:03 i hate ppl Sep 02 03:38:04 yes Sep 02 03:38:05 that use Sep 02 03:38:07 3 lines Sep 02 03:38:11 to make one senantace Sep 02 03:38:21 you spelt sentence wrong Sep 02 03:38:26 So you can't say anything now Sep 02 03:38:27 sorry Sep 02 03:38:28 i kno >_< Sep 02 03:38:33 i blame the pizza in my hand Sep 02 03:38:42 you spelt delivering wrong Sep 02 03:38:55 DELIEVER Sep 02 03:38:57 IT'S A DELI' Sep 02 03:38:59 AND A EVER Sep 02 03:39:05 WRAPPED IN ONE Sep 02 03:39:18 spelt isn't a word Sep 02 03:39:25 I wanted to know if the community needed any help because I'm not a programmer and sometimes thats all developement projects want Sep 02 03:39:39 mills: Currently, no' Sep 02 03:39:51 i didnt even notice i was gone there for a sec -_- Sep 02 03:39:51 sounds like spent Sep 02 03:40:21 * DarkRedFlame was kicked from #touchdroid by SamCripp [you are just to sexy] Sep 02 03:40:26 @darkredflame: so you don't need help other than programming help> Sep 02 03:40:31 lol Sep 02 03:40:39 are you an admin Sep 02 03:40:42 ? Sep 02 03:40:52 Why yes I am Sep 02 03:40:56 I am a very sexy admin Sep 02 03:41:13 see if it takes him as long to get back as me :P Sep 02 03:41:17 no why are you kicking helpful people off Sep 02 03:41:18 MY LOGS Sep 02 03:41:23 MY BEAUITFUL LOGS' Sep 02 03:41:29 forget it Sep 02 03:41:36 this channel isnt any help Sep 02 03:41:38 lol Sep 02 03:41:38 goodbye Sep 02 03:41:42 bye Sep 02 03:41:42 lol Sep 02 03:41:52 \o/ Sep 02 03:41:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP0kWqJJZa4 Sep 02 03:42:12 So are you guys having the write a driver from scratch now for the screen? Sep 02 03:42:31 Still trying to find a preconfigured Sep 02 03:42:52 OOOOOH Sep 02 03:43:00 PANDORA IS PLAYING JACK AND DIANE Sep 02 03:43:17 I DONT GIVE A FUCK! Sep 02 03:43:32 could you speak up Sep 02 03:44:58 wonder if any of the Puccini apk's can be dumped on my galaxy tab Sep 02 03:45:00 hrrrmmm Sep 02 03:45:05 I like how it been 2 days since CM announced they have touchscreen support for TP Sep 02 03:45:08 Any luck so far or has this screen not been used elsewhere? Sep 02 03:45:16 And they still dont have prof Sep 02 03:45:19 proof* Sep 02 03:45:40 where was it announced, besides the topic of their chan? Sep 02 03:45:57 * DarkRedFlame pesters damageless about new updates Sep 02 03:46:09 * newerth slaps everyone around with a big large trout Sep 02 03:46:20 salmon please Sep 02 03:46:25 ok Sep 02 03:46:45 * newerth slaps everyone around with a big large salmon Sep 02 03:47:14 tasty tasty salmon. Sep 02 03:47:39 how about some spam Sep 02 03:47:53 would any of u gents be kind enough to try to deodex a app for me? Sep 02 03:48:02 i have not the slighest clue how to Sep 02 03:48:03 :( Sep 02 03:48:08 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/8734144/Sex-claims-and-the-wild-ways-of-Microsoft-bosses.html Sep 02 03:48:19 Man those microsoft executives be players Sep 02 03:49:00 DarkRedFlame, never saw pirates of silicon valley Sep 02 03:49:08 bil ballmer is a pervert Sep 02 03:49:13 hahah Sep 02 03:52:18 someone mentioned this tab having pretty much same hardware as the touchpad.not sure but thought i would post anywho Sep 02 03:52:19 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240772 Sep 02 03:55:06 It uses the same CPU Sep 02 03:55:27 touchscreen is totally different Sep 02 03:56:15 ah Sep 02 03:59:31 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 02 04:00:24 <|Jason8|> b00sted: wtf that kid's 11 years old? Sep 02 04:00:24 <|Jason8|> :v Sep 02 04:02:28 wtf u talkin about? lol Sep 02 04:06:48 These are believed to have originated from Qualcomm's internal development labs and were clearly not intended for distribution to end users. It's unclear how these prototypes ended up in the sales channel. Sep 02 04:06:56 http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/08/touchpad-longevity-gets-a-boost-from-androidubuntu-ports.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss Sep 02 04:07:02 or, it's a a test mode Sep 02 04:07:26 since qualcomm does not make the touchpad and touchpads would not go from qualcomm's "labs" to the channel Sep 02 04:09:06 maybe hp wanted to hedge it's bets or couldn't get webos working at first and used an already working android build from qualcomm for hardware testing Sep 02 04:10:10 i'm wondering if hp is going to let any of the 7" touchpads sneak out Sep 02 04:11:05 worked so well for dell Sep 02 04:11:21 well i'm kind of interesting in the new 5.3" samsung Sep 02 04:11:26 aikiwoce: right Sep 02 04:11:32 i want that phone Sep 02 04:11:36 but i doubt it'll come to vzw Sep 02 04:11:43 since the rest of the system comes from qualcomm's quic/codeaurora that makes a lot of sense Sep 02 04:11:49 yeah i've wanted a 5" phone for a while Sep 02 04:11:51 nhat: what phone? Sep 02 04:11:56 samsung galaxy note Sep 02 04:12:07 they announced it today Sep 02 04:12:23 comes with a stylus, so i'm wondering how accurate it will be Sep 02 04:12:32 pretty sure i have a better chance of shitting gold than vzw getting the note Sep 02 04:12:39 was looking at keyboard cases today that could probably work with the TouchPad Sep 02 04:12:40 exactly Sep 02 04:12:50 tywin lannister? Sep 02 04:12:59 really, with one of these things and any tablet you could have laptop functionality Sep 02 04:13:15 but particularly with TouchPad running native ubuntu Sep 02 04:13:37 I made my galaxy tab pretty today :O http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22063477/Android/Screenshots/SC20110901-231241.jpg Sep 02 04:13:38 yeah i'm hoping once android gets working we can have it and unbuntu running at the same time Sep 02 04:13:59 like the atrix does with it's webtop Sep 02 04:14:32 I miss having a stylus Sep 02 04:15:03 they just screwed up the atrix with the lapdock pricing, locked bootloader, and tethering required for webtop Sep 02 04:15:39 at what they wanted for the laptop it should've had a multi-touch touchpad or a multi-touch screen in addition to the touchpad Sep 02 04:15:51 they're cheap bastards Sep 02 04:15:51 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 31 minutes 19 seconds Sep 02 04:16:14 agreed, except i didnt feel like the lapdock was all that overpriced for what it is, and i especially thing webtop setup was reasonably priced Sep 02 04:16:18 i'm half tempted to pick up a refurb one from att for 175 Sep 02 04:16:50 i have a 25% off coupon they sent me that doesn't say it can't be used on the webtop Sep 02 04:16:56 it was only 175 new if purchased online Sep 02 04:16:59 i should go into a store order one and use the coupon Sep 02 04:17:11 it's 175 refurb right now Sep 02 04:17:32 8o Sep 02 04:17:33 without a contract or tethering plan requirement Sep 02 04:17:44 from att Sep 02 04:17:50 amazon wants 200 for new right now Sep 02 04:18:10 i'd buy online if i could use the 25% off coupon Sep 02 04:18:20 oh, maybe that was refurb. a bit high, but not completely unreasonable considering it is sort of one of a kind Sep 02 04:19:16 i had the atrix for about a week. loved the phone, but att had terrible coverage in my area, unfortunately.... kinda like they do for EVERY non-metro area Sep 02 04:19:36 mine too when i first got it Sep 02 04:19:42 my iphone that is Sep 02 04:19:53 then they upgraded my area Sep 02 04:19:58 then i got the atrix Sep 02 04:27:09 saw the video for dual boot Sep 02 04:27:15 very nice Sep 02 04:29:14 once gingerbread fully functional on touchpad will honeycomb and ice cream sandwhich be easier to port? Sep 02 04:30:04 need source, so HC will not come least from touch-droid team (read the wiki) Sep 02 04:30:21 !topic #touchdroid Sep 02 04:30:22 and ICS should be a straight forward bound once source is out Sep 02 04:30:44 gotcha Sep 02 04:31:41 guess i should get to bed Sep 02 04:31:43 night all Sep 02 04:32:47 can someone please tell me the irc chanel for CM Sep 02 04:34:15 #cyanogenmod Sep 02 04:34:45 you need to learn to use the internet the information you are looking for is there Sep 02 05:04:07 you guys are awesome Sep 02 05:04:09 just so you know Sep 02 05:04:42 my brother and sister in law are my boss, she works for HP and snagged these little guys up and gave each employee one. Soon as i got it i started searching the web and came across this. Sep 02 05:04:47 just wanted to let you know :D Sep 02 05:05:29 What do they do at HP? Sep 02 05:07:46 something to do with printers Sep 02 05:07:47 lol Sep 02 05:08:00 she is some large companies solution center for printers and such Sep 02 05:08:04 makes a retarded 80k a year Sep 02 05:08:45 y u hatin bruh? Sep 02 05:09:09 lol Sep 02 05:09:14 not hating, thats decent money :D Sep 02 05:09:18 ;) Sep 02 05:13:21 i do has a question though. Once this is going smoothly. will there be a market? Or will we have to manual install? Sep 02 05:13:43 manual Sep 02 05:13:51 we aren't focusing on market Sep 02 05:14:00 It will be implemented later on Sep 02 05:14:32 no thats cool Sep 02 05:14:38 didn't expect it right away or anything Sep 02 05:14:41 blackmart > android market anyways Sep 02 05:14:45 lol Sep 02 05:14:46 word Sep 02 05:15:01 market should be an easy addon later.. makes more sense to have working touch first;-) Sep 02 05:15:05 what are you guys talking about? Sep 02 05:15:18 black people. we are talking about black people Sep 02 05:15:38 yes, black people usually require manual install. Sep 02 05:16:27 slave market? Sep 02 05:16:52 how many 1's and 0's will it take to pick a cotton patch? Sep 02 05:16:53 Installing 10.6.8 Sep 02 05:16:55 D: Sep 02 05:17:08 I truly miss my OSX Sep 02 05:17:25 get a mac then Sep 02 05:17:27 lol Sep 02 05:18:41 Hahaha Sep 02 05:18:42 I'd rather take a baseball bat to the sack than to willingfully buy a mac Sep 02 05:18:44 This guy Sep 02 05:18:53 It's much cheaper to make a hackintosh Sep 02 05:19:02 ^ Sep 02 05:19:21 cheaper to cut your wee wee off and become a hipster Sep 02 05:19:23 You can get a i7 2GHz Quad Core, 4 GB RAM, 540M for $650 Sep 02 05:21:40 man this 2000ma charger really makes charging my evo 3d easy Sep 02 05:21:49 <|Jason8|> ncspecv81: i know. Sep 02 05:21:52 <|Jason8|> best investment ever Sep 02 05:21:55 I'll probably pick up a Mac Mini someday. Sep 02 05:21:57 <|Jason8|> $100 for a charger Sep 02 05:22:40 ncspecv81: yeah, it belts the giggawatts into my galaxys too Sep 02 05:22:45 I just use the chargers made for my iPad with my phone, OG Droid. Works like a charm. Sep 02 05:22:47 I wished there was a way to add the webos cards to android Sep 02 05:22:58 I quit using my OEM charger on my evo Sep 02 05:23:08 honeycomb has a cardlike recent apps list Sep 02 05:23:12 I might look into building a bigger one Sep 02 05:23:21 so that will be in ICS Sep 02 05:23:34 make a 10000ma charger Sep 02 05:23:52 i doubt any ohone will use 2000 fully, let alone more Sep 02 05:24:06 battery might take a shit Sep 02 05:24:15 yay Hamspiced Sep 02 05:24:46 had to restart adium… this mac im on is kernal panic'n every other day… time to toss it Sep 02 05:27:25 http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/accessory?action=accessoryDetails&accessoryId=46407&cm_ven=Performics&cm_cat=Affiliate&cm_pla=120x60%20Brand%20Logo&cm_ite=www.techbargains.com&cm_ite=www.techbargains.com Sep 02 05:27:29 just ordered 2 of those Sep 02 05:27:38 10.71 shipped for 2-day air on both Sep 02 05:28:37 Oh man Sep 02 05:28:47 In for one Sep 02 05:28:54 Cant wait to use this for my TP Sep 02 05:28:56 B6S, I got a few too. I hope they are worth the 4 bucks each Sep 02 05:28:57 heh Sep 02 05:29:16 they should be fine Sep 02 05:29:21 ipad 1 cases are what we want Sep 02 05:29:23 not ipad 2 Sep 02 05:29:27 nice.. are they sold out?? i cant see a checkout button Sep 02 05:29:28 which is why these are on clearance Sep 02 05:29:33 i just ordered 2 Sep 02 05:29:35 so dunno Sep 02 05:30:07 do any of you have one of the touchstones? Sep 02 05:30:13 I do. Very nice. Sep 02 05:30:21 im hoping to still get a touchstone Sep 02 05:30:29 can you do me a favor? Sep 02 05:30:39 I'm not worrying about the tuochstone Sep 02 05:30:43 can't use it on the shitter or in the bed Sep 02 05:30:47 so pretty much worthless to me Sep 02 05:31:08 Debating on the screen protector Sep 02 05:31:17 If its only one Sep 02 05:31:20 i wasnt going to get a screen protector Sep 02 05:31:22 Not worth $5 Sep 02 05:31:30 but then i found out the touchpad is NOT gorrilla glass Sep 02 05:31:38 and it gets fingerprints like its going out of style Sep 02 05:31:43 It's nice for setting up next to my PC and having it sit there charging with a clock on screen. Sep 02 05:31:44 so i got a front/rear cover Sep 02 05:31:57 no gorilla glass =o( Sep 02 05:32:18 I don't care about the back Sep 02 05:32:25 The back is already scratched up Sep 02 05:32:29 And that's fine by me Sep 02 05:32:36 Front is in prestige condition Sep 02 05:33:01 why they no gorilla glass =o\ Sep 02 05:33:23 http://www.stealtharmor.com/store/touchpad-carbon-fiber-white.html Sep 02 05:33:27 i ordered that Sep 02 05:33:33 with coupon code HPFIRESALE Sep 02 05:33:35 its 20 bucks Sep 02 05:33:45 and all the reviews say its really really nice Sep 02 05:33:54 comes with front/rear covers Sep 02 05:34:11 if it's in a case how will it scratch up? not like a phone in your pocket Sep 02 05:34:30 i will only use the case while traveling Sep 02 05:34:37 i hate folio cases Sep 02 05:34:43 i hate cases period Sep 02 05:34:48 they just add bulk Sep 02 05:34:55 which is why i got the covers to keep it nice Sep 02 05:35:08 guess buying the keyboard wasn't necessary after all Sep 02 05:35:15 it's too slippery naked - easy to drop Sep 02 05:36:36 The official HP case isn't too bad. Makes it feel like a book. Sep 02 05:36:47 I like the official case. That's what I have on mine Sep 02 05:36:52 Though it would have been nice if it was thinner so the Touchstone would be a _little_ more reliable. Sep 02 05:36:55 and it is bumpin'. Sep 02 05:38:39 Item Qty Total Due Today Griffin Folio - Black Leather 1 $4.97 Display Protection - Anti-Glare Display Protectors 1 $4.97 Shipping Option **** 2-Day Ground Free Taxes, Governmental Surcharges & Fees $0.60 ID State Sales Tax* $0.60 Total Due Today $10.54 Sep 02 05:38:57 Is there a normal gel case for this thing, just to protect the back? Sep 02 05:39:07 yep Sep 02 05:39:16 Look for ipad silicon cases Sep 02 05:39:19 Should fit it Sep 02 05:39:33 B65, does the StealthArmour rear cover protect the corners of the touchpad? Sep 02 05:40:38 Yes, redleader36. I wouldn't call it protect, I would call it cover. Sep 02 05:41:54 I rather have a case to be honest Sep 02 05:42:03 Less chance of it breaking Sep 02 05:42:09 <|Jason8|> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE&feature=player_detailpage#t=1s Sep 02 05:42:11 <|Jason8|> wtf Sep 02 05:43:53 id prolly go for one of them sheep... Sep 02 05:44:31 that vid reminds me of Farmsluts Sep 02 05:45:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjCj0ntG8E Sep 02 05:48:56 Hamspiced, did you find out how to order the cae? Sep 02 05:48:58 *case Sep 02 05:49:41 no, i think i have to be a verizon customer.. Sep 02 05:50:52 No.. I'll learn you. Sep 02 05:51:47 okay. so after some searching… The Palm's touchstone CAN work with the Touchpad, however you have to add about 5 more rows of coil to the wire.. Sep 02 05:53:47 Also. All of the Powermat Wireless charging mats will work with the Touchpad.. Sep 02 05:54:01 Nice Sep 02 05:54:35 so.. if you get the powermat and put the touchpad on it, it'll work? Sep 02 05:59:41 yes Sep 02 05:59:58 nifty.... Sep 02 06:00:17 but only with the massive mat or is the little dongle thingie just as good? Sep 02 06:00:42 the wierd square thing that you plug into your device's usb port Sep 02 06:17:12 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 02 06:17:24 http://hacknmod.com/hack/hp-touchpad-android-1500-prize/ Sep 02 06:18:34 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 16 minutes 21 seconds Sep 02 06:29:57 hey guys anyone alive ? with a warthog kernel ? Sep 02 06:30:28 I cant install any of the experimental kernels all of them fail ,.. any suggestions ? Sep 02 06:35:02 weird Sep 02 06:35:19 warthog should be stable Sep 02 06:35:52 that's what I'm running Sep 02 06:37:27 install stock kernel and then try again. seems to work for some peoples. Sep 02 06:38:27 <3 my moto atrix Sep 02 06:38:40 good for you h2theizzo, too bad its dated Sep 02 06:38:46 pff Sep 02 06:38:57 i still have an eris with verizon Sep 02 06:38:59 now thats, dated Sep 02 06:39:10 atrix is still up there man :D Sep 02 06:41:08 DONT HATE THE ATRIX >:| Sep 02 07:06:46 no one is on??? Sep 02 07:07:08 they're just avoiding you Sep 02 07:07:11 i am :D Sep 02 07:07:58 calm before the storm obviously Sep 02 07:09:10 is this the kernel that is getting worked on by you guys or did i stumble on someone elses kernel???? git://github.com/renan-/touchpad-kernel.git Sep 02 07:10:56 under +drivers +input there is touchpad work Sep 02 07:13:29 ??? Sep 02 07:16:43 just ordered this for my touchpad and htc thunderbolt: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380365993253&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:1123#ht_3104wt_1163 Sep 02 07:16:54 :) Sep 02 07:21:18 um... Sep 02 07:21:26 potentially, it might not give enough power Sep 02 07:21:39 since the charger is meant for a phone, not for a tablet device. different energy requirement Sep 02 07:21:51 mputtr Sep 02 07:21:57 im just now noticing that.. Sep 02 07:21:57 same output as USB Sep 02 07:22:02 5w wont cut it Sep 02 07:22:05 must be 10w Sep 02 07:22:06 5v, but 1a Sep 02 07:22:07 wtf.. Sep 02 07:22:12 sorry buddy Sep 02 07:22:18 and i ordered it already Sep 02 07:22:20 :/ Sep 02 07:22:22 USB = 5v @ 1a right? Sep 02 07:22:23 <|Jason8|> k-e-v: definitely not enough Sep 02 07:22:24 <|Jason8|> :v Sep 02 07:22:28 or is it .5a? Sep 02 07:22:31 :O Sep 02 07:22:33 <|Jason8|> USB is .5a Sep 02 07:22:36 that's what i thought Sep 02 07:22:48 <|Jason8|> k-e-v: 2-port ipad chargers should work? Sep 02 07:22:50 so between 2 devices, 1a would be just like a standard USB port. kinda lame Sep 02 07:23:25 something more like 1.5a would be awesome Sep 02 07:23:44 gluck kev. and cya guys later. hope to see more sometime soon :) Sep 02 07:23:51 <|Jason8|> k-e-v: http://www.ebay.com/itm/XTREMEMAC-DUAL-USB-PORT-WALL-IPAD-IPHONE-FAST-CHARGER-/280732567512?pt=US_Tablet_Accessories&hash=item415cf707d8#ht_2549wt_1163 Sep 02 07:23:54 <|Jason8|> is what you need. :/ Sep 02 07:24:41 <|Jason8|> looks like most of the chinese dual-ports do 2x1000mah or 1x2000mah Sep 02 07:24:42 |Jason8|, i was looking for a deal and thats no deal lol. Sep 02 07:24:50 i'm looking for a slickdeal :) Sep 02 07:25:11 don't they make surge protectors with built in usb? Sep 02 07:25:33 <|Jason8|> aikiwoce: gotta be ipad compatible Sep 02 07:25:43 <|Jason8|> 5v 2a Sep 02 07:25:55 <|Jason8|> but yeah Sep 02 07:25:57 <|Jason8|> love my touchstone Sep 02 07:26:12 <|Jason8|> using the second palm charger for my EVO 3D ;) Sep 02 07:26:58 yeah i need to find a usb strip Sep 02 07:27:03 <|Jason8|> k-e-v: http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPad-iPhone-Dual-USB-Port-AC-Power-Adapter-Wall-Charger-/290592605451?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item43a8ab450b#ht_2759wt_1396 Sep 02 07:27:09 <|Jason8|> says it'll do 2a and 1a at the same time Sep 02 07:27:18 i've got like 5 usb plugged into a strip Sep 02 07:27:29 Output: 5.1V 2.1A Sep 02 07:27:31 <|Jason8|> aikiwoce: USB hub and one big charger. :D Sep 02 07:28:17 yeah gotta find one my strip is getting clogged up Sep 02 07:28:47 |Jason8|. now thats a slickdeal Sep 02 07:28:49 thank you! Sep 02 07:28:55 <|Jason8|> np. :) Sep 02 07:28:56 <|Jason8|> hope it works. Sep 02 07:29:14 hope it works Sep 02 07:29:17 why wouldnt it :( Sep 02 07:29:24 <|Jason8|> it's chinese >_> Sep 02 07:29:33 <|Jason8|> that hong kong stuff is always hit or miss Sep 02 07:29:49 its shipping from cali... Sep 02 07:29:56 <|Jason8|> yup Sep 02 07:29:59 <|Jason8|> still hong kong stuff Sep 02 07:30:00 <|Jason8|> :v Sep 02 07:30:02 and just about everything in US is made from china lol Sep 02 07:30:02 know what would make the touchpad damn near perfect? Sep 02 07:30:04 :P Sep 02 07:30:11 <|Jason8|> nutcase: more apps? Sep 02 07:30:16 well yeah Sep 02 07:30:18 OTR Sep 02 07:30:19 for one Sep 02 07:30:22 tor would be nice Sep 02 07:30:27 uhhh Sep 02 07:30:30 lets see what else Sep 02 07:30:34 gpg Sep 02 07:30:52 <|Jason8|> support for LPR printing! Sep 02 07:30:53 a way to encrypt all the data on the pad itself Sep 02 07:30:59 LPR? Sep 02 07:31:14 <|Jason8|> my shitty print server is LPR instead of the standard whatever Sep 02 07:31:26 oh Sep 02 07:31:29 and an ebook reader Sep 02 07:31:45 yes you can read pdfs Sep 02 07:31:51 but it sucks Sep 02 07:31:52 but its not a proper ebook reader Sep 02 07:32:16 what if you loaded the ubuntu chroot and loaded the pdfs in chrome? Sep 02 07:32:20 <|Jason8|> I wanna see dalvik ported. Sep 02 07:32:21 <|Jason8|> would be legit Sep 02 07:33:04 if they could get one kernel that allows you to run webos, linux and android that'd be pro Sep 02 07:33:11 gah forgot to unset the proxy... now only wirc works... Sep 02 07:33:26 they need to make the proxy more accessible Sep 02 07:45:04 |Jason8|, thank you. I ordered it. I "hope" it works or i'm holding you responsible :) Sep 02 07:56:43 so is Renan working on this project? Sep 02 08:15:34 no clue who renen is Sep 02 08:15:47 and i saw the kernel src Sep 02 08:17:01 traced him to #oxygen-rom Sep 02 08:17:27 feel free to invite him Sep 02 08:18:45 im just wondering if his files get the touchscreen working Sep 02 08:18:56 from looking no Sep 02 08:19:01 its not kenrel Sep 02 08:19:03 i dont think Sep 02 08:19:37 it is a re-worked 300 driver Sep 02 08:19:49 i know what it is Sep 02 08:19:52 but its not kernel related Sep 02 08:20:02 http://paste.team-touchdroid.com/22 Sep 02 08:34:20 here is his android tree https://github.com/renan-/touchpad-kernel/tree/touchpad-android Sep 02 09:34:31 that dual boot vid was siiiicck Sep 02 09:37:07 thanks Sep 02 09:37:13 trying our best here Sep 02 09:38:16 touchscreen is a bitch Sep 02 09:38:19 Keep up the good work Sep 02 09:38:22 i wish qualcom would show us src Sep 02 09:38:28 or someone would come forward Sep 02 09:38:40 in private obviously Sep 02 09:42:12 so why is the touch screen so difficult? Is it a non standard linux driver issue? Sep 02 09:42:34 android != linux Sep 02 09:43:05 ahk Sep 02 09:43:07 makes sense Sep 02 09:43:16 based on at least? Sep 02 09:43:44 based kinda Sep 02 09:43:49 but its not brute linux Sep 02 09:44:01 its java linux :) Sep 02 09:44:11 Ahhh Sep 02 09:44:21 Sounds difficult :) Sep 02 09:46:16 But seriously folks, you guys are doing great work Sep 02 09:50:16 hey guys Sep 02 09:50:24 can someone explain why the dump drivers can't be used? Sep 02 09:52:41 nite all Sep 02 09:52:43 6am Sep 02 09:53:11 Done? Sep 02 09:53:25 what do you think its 6am Sep 02 09:53:42 What u finish rhcp? Sep 02 09:53:51 nothing playing with TS all night Sep 02 09:54:32 sleeep Sep 02 09:54:44 dr1337: dump is froyo, which means older kernel, which means incompatible Sep 02 09:55:04 right Sep 02 09:55:17 what's the touchpad's controller chip? Sep 02 09:55:26 maybe it's an atmel max touch? Sep 02 09:55:33 hmmm Sep 02 09:55:46 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php Sep 02 09:55:50 look on here Sep 02 09:55:53 full part list Sep 02 09:55:55 tear downs Sep 02 09:55:55 etc Sep 02 09:56:16 OK so no luck? Sep 02 09:56:35 Or some cf Sep 02 09:56:55 Or no response?** Sep 02 09:57:26 thanks Sep 02 09:58:57 LOL Sep 02 09:59:33 acording to kernel it's armtel MXT1386 Sep 02 10:00:23 hmmmm Sep 02 10:00:24 nah can;t be Sep 02 10:00:27 Flemmard, ^^^ Sep 02 10:00:35 I was fairly sure it was cypress Sep 02 10:00:41 can anyone check via webos? Sep 02 10:01:02 you can always try with the the driver from honeycomb Sep 02 10:01:11 in breakdown photos it was called cypress thing Sep 02 10:01:26 MXT1386 is the controller Sep 02 10:02:00 MXT1386 is the Atmel Sep 02 10:02:14 cy8ctma395 - tech data http://www.cypress.com/?mpn=CY8CTMA395-LTI-00ES&zip=all&requesttimeout=36000 Sep 02 10:02:54 CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_CYPRESS_HP_I2C=y Sep 02 10:02:54 CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MXT1386_I2C=y Sep 02 10:03:23 oh bummer so it is actually a new chip.... Sep 02 10:03:25 cypress_hp ? Sep 02 10:03:30 hmmmm Sep 02 10:03:40 what kernel are you using scottishduck ? Sep 02 10:03:43 you need the corresponding IDC for it Sep 02 10:03:53 I'm quoting from the 2.2 dump Sep 02 10:04:16 also Sep 02 10:04:17 CONFIG_INPUT_CYPRESS_CY8C20236A=y Sep 02 10:04:50 right Sep 02 10:04:56 lol yea Sep 02 10:04:56 question... Sep 02 10:05:01 has anyone taken the dump kernel Sep 02 10:05:07 i tried to boot it Sep 02 10:05:08 no luck Sep 02 10:05:12 (Flemmard, looking at you here) Sep 02 10:05:16 and then put our ramdisk in/ Sep 02 10:05:17 ? Sep 02 10:05:20 yes yes Sep 02 10:05:25 :( :( Sep 02 10:05:26 but wont boot .. Sep 02 10:05:35 bet it lacks lvm Sep 02 10:05:58 no Sep 02 10:06:01 kernel wont even boot Sep 02 10:06:11 hmmm ok Sep 02 10:06:12 weird Sep 02 10:06:19 like wrong entrypoint or idk Sep 02 10:06:24 OK Sep 02 10:06:25 ;( Sep 02 10:07:11 they rewrote surfaceflinger in gingerbread Sep 02 10:07:19 most likely will have issues with the graphics driver Sep 02 10:07:21 hmmm Sep 02 10:07:23 yeah Sep 02 10:52:07 !op Sep 02 10:52:09 -_- Sep 02 10:55:34 So whats the current progrress? Sep 02 10:55:44 hahahaha Sep 02 11:31:03 DO NOT ASK FOR STATUS :| Sep 02 11:33:30 What we can't ask for this? Shame, some of the oldies love a bit of Quo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-8K8Hj8bxE Sep 02 11:35:13 #CMTouchPad is saying touchscreen is working, but without any proof I guess Sep 02 11:35:44 no CM talk LOL Sep 02 11:36:57 old news is old Sep 02 11:49:51 Wish me luck guise Sep 02 11:49:55 :p Sep 02 11:50:23 ok nevermind -_- Sep 02 11:51:47 lol @framework Sep 02 11:52:35 already got kernel error Sep 02 11:52:36 :( Sep 02 11:52:48 /tmp/ccJ89gNd.s: Assembler messages: Sep 02 11:52:48 /tmp/ccJ89gNd.s:55: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `smc #0' Sep 02 11:52:48 /tmp/ccJ89gNd.s:304: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `smc #0' Sep 02 11:52:48 make[1]: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm/scm.o] Error 1 Sep 02 11:52:48 make: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm] Error 2 Sep 02 11:52:50 Sad face Sep 02 11:53:03 NO KERNEL FOR U Sep 02 11:54:30 fawk my life Sep 02 11:55:21 I hate compile errors Sep 02 11:55:21 lol Sep 02 11:55:35 you has fail Sep 02 11:57:03 Framework, thats a gcc 4.5 error Sep 02 11:57:23 >< Sep 02 11:57:25 Framework, roll back your arm compiler to like a 2010 or 2009 version it will go away Sep 02 11:57:56 I think the 2009q1 version works the best at the moment Sep 02 11:58:50 how ironic Sep 02 11:58:55 thats the one Im downloading right now Sep 02 11:58:56 xD Sep 02 11:59:01 I can compile kernels all day long, but I can't seem to get the right mount+perms right Sep 02 11:59:15 kewl, error should go away once that's swapped out Sep 02 11:59:26 I hope you're right lol Sep 02 11:59:44 I really want this to compile Sep 02 11:59:51 I spent a couple hours on those errors yesterday til I found recommended setup Sep 02 12:00:19 then of course rhcp updated wiki I guess today Sep 02 12:00:23 I could download this a lot faster if my internet was paid ?_? Sep 02 12:00:24 lololol Sep 02 12:00:36 it had full instructions on kernel building Sep 02 12:00:56 rhcp[linux]> http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php Sep 02 12:01:05 building kernel sections has everything you need Sep 02 12:02:26 are you mounting system on the ext3fs from meta-doctor? I can't seem to get system to mount so adb shell complains about /system/bin/sh Sep 02 12:03:17 * Pulser yawns Sep 02 12:03:29 are we doing anything interesting?] Sep 02 12:03:51 I am *soon* going to be compiling a kernel that I need tested Sep 02 12:03:55 for the touchscreen problems Sep 02 12:04:04 oooh Sep 02 12:04:05 interesting Sep 02 12:04:39 * helfrez is having the morning coffee Sep 02 12:05:30 We'll see lol Sep 02 12:05:38 I don't even know if this thing will compile Sep 02 12:05:56 hehe Sep 02 12:05:57 Pulser, any tips on mounting,I thought I remember seeing it in channel at some point, getting adb going but getting the /system/bin/sh errors like system isnt mounting Sep 02 12:06:12 uhm what an open ended question :( Sep 02 12:06:16 so basically Sep 02 12:06:24 I am presuming you did all your partitions right? Sep 02 12:06:54 functional usb hosting ftw Sep 02 12:07:39 mount I was trying to just reuse the ext partition from meta-doctoring a stock device and mounting system at /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs Sep 02 12:07:52 hmmmm Sep 02 12:07:58 so... Sep 02 12:08:07 you can use lvm resizing stuff Sep 02 12:08:08 iirc Sep 02 12:09:33 yeah I guess thats what I will end up doing, just resizing everything and making true cache data system partitions Sep 02 12:10:21 yes Sep 02 12:10:26 you will need several Sep 02 12:11:30 I am going to poke around a bit more and then give up and do some resizing Sep 02 12:12:23 I know I am missing something obvious somewhere, no reason it shouldnt work with just folders, unless android is checking for mtab mounts or something like that Sep 02 12:13:17 just mount in the init script Sep 02 12:13:41 yeah thats what I was doing but it wasn't working as expected Sep 02 12:20:03 The sun will come out Sep 02 12:20:05 Tomorrow Sep 02 12:20:09 bet ya bottom dollar Sep 02 12:20:10 that tomorrow Sep 02 12:20:14 THERE'LL BE SUN Sep 02 12:20:16 Tomorrow Sep 02 12:20:17 Tomorrow Sep 02 12:20:24 I love ya Tomorrow Sep 02 12:20:30 You're always a day away Sep 02 12:20:33 :x Sep 02 12:22:37 here is a blue sky :D Sep 02 12:23:00 I need to be off this by 9 am Sep 02 12:23:05 and need to finish my paper Sep 02 12:23:05 :P Sep 02 12:25:27 if 2+2 = 5 Sep 02 12:25:35 then why does the world exist? Sep 02 12:26:47 Ordered a pre3 Sep 02 12:26:48 why does touchpad exist? Sep 02 12:26:49 better be good Sep 02 12:27:54 scottishduck Sep 02 12:27:59 they are selling off contract pres Sep 02 12:28:00 for $27 Sep 02 12:28:01 lol Sep 02 12:28:13 I wish I could get one Sep 02 12:28:25 Framework: no they're not Sep 02 12:28:25 ill want some pre3 too Sep 02 12:28:48 i wanted a veer but they sold out to fast i US Sep 02 12:28:52 but here in germany they never come again. (even there should have been tons of, because it was just to release) Sep 02 12:31:49 scottishduck Sep 02 12:31:50 yes Sep 02 12:31:52 not online Sep 02 12:31:54 in stores Sep 02 12:33:45 Pulser Sep 02 12:33:55 this is weird.... Sep 02 12:33:56 arch/arm/mach-msm/board-tenderloin.c: In function 'msm8x60_init': Sep 02 12:33:56 arch/arm/mach-msm/board-tenderloin.c:6746: warning: ignoring return value of 'input_register_handler', declared with attribute warn_unused_result Sep 02 12:33:56 make[1]: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm/board-tenderloin.o] Error 1 Sep 02 12:33:56 make: *** [arch/arm/mach-msm] Error 2 Sep 02 12:34:10 I didnt even touch any of that crap Sep 02 12:35:24 Framework, good morning Sep 02 12:35:38 Morning Sep 02 12:35:43 =) Sep 02 12:36:18 hmmm Sep 02 12:36:25 http://pastebin.com/rbQqZd9q Sep 02 12:36:26 :( Sep 02 12:36:53 error: 'ctp_pins' undeclared (first use in this function) Sep 02 12:37:24 Framework are you using aurora code base or something else Sep 02 12:37:35 Im using the git Sep 02 12:37:38 that was up Sep 02 12:37:42 how do open a new tab in here Sep 02 12:40:29 from github or gitorious Sep 02 12:40:41 gitorious Sep 02 12:42:41 * Framework prays Sep 02 12:42:44 please compile to the end... Sep 02 12:42:46 I hate errors lol Sep 02 12:45:11 Im not worried about this part, Im worried about the drivers lol Sep 02 12:45:13 Oooo new futurama episode! Sep 02 12:45:31 Im making nachos later today Sep 02 12:45:32 :P Sep 02 12:45:34 yumyumyum Sep 02 12:46:42 bah, i wish i knew how to do shit.. waiting on someone to deodex the Puccini dump so I can test out apk's on my galaxy tab :| Sep 02 12:46:54 deodexing is easy lol Sep 02 12:46:57 I had a script for it Sep 02 12:47:05 I think the dev kitchen will do it for you Sep 02 12:47:20 i dunno how to do all that fancy shit lol Sep 02 12:47:34 a week ago i just learned how to repackage apk's lol Sep 02 12:48:03 if u get bored and want to do it here is the download, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NJE2NBXI and me love you long time! Sep 02 12:48:41 where did you get this dump from Sep 02 12:48:43 XDA? Sep 02 12:48:48 why does this one say unsigned Sep 02 12:48:49 o>0 Sep 02 12:48:55 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240772 Sep 02 12:49:13 it is extacted from the system.img one Sep 02 12:49:45 I am sorry to say but I cannot always be porting. I am only 11 years old and need to do homework, study for tests, etc. Please do not treat me like a real dev either. I am a computer geek, know Visual Basic, and a lot of other stuff so I'm not a newb, but at the same time not a a person like Cyanogen. Sep 02 12:49:46 LOLWUT Sep 02 12:50:06 lol Sep 02 12:50:09 >11 years old Sep 02 12:50:14 kill me it hurts to live Sep 02 12:50:26 lol Sep 02 12:50:28 If I had a flyer Sep 02 12:50:32 i am 29 and just learned how to resign a apk.. i fail at life... Sep 02 12:50:34 that shit would be ported in a day Sep 02 12:50:36 :-P Sep 02 12:50:39 I are port mastah Sep 02 12:50:47 port that shit to my galaxy tab :P Sep 02 12:50:54 why? Sep 02 12:51:09 i am partial to Sense :P Sep 02 12:52:09 been keeping tabs on OEM tweaks for tabs as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204931 Sep 02 12:52:46 yay Sep 02 12:52:52 I love compile errors Sep 02 12:52:52 -_- Sep 02 12:52:56 Framework not sure if the kernel from gitorious work jonpry added adnroid related patches to it Sep 02 12:53:07 works* Sep 02 12:53:11 fixed* Sep 02 12:53:11 :) Sep 02 12:53:20 I hope jonpry did lol Sep 02 12:53:22 k Sep 02 12:53:23 Or Ill cry Sep 02 12:56:20 yes Sep 02 12:56:21 he did Sep 02 12:56:34 in fact, his kernel posted SHOULD almost boot Sep 02 12:56:49 now... does anyone want me to try boot honeycomb on the touchpad soon? Sep 02 12:56:51 wait what Sep 02 12:56:58 now... does anyone want me to try boot honeycomb on the touchpad soon? Sep 02 12:56:59 LOLOLOLOL Sep 02 12:57:01 ;-P Sep 02 12:57:03 lol Sep 02 12:57:06 did you manage? Sep 02 12:57:07 thanks pulser Sep 02 12:57:10 well... Sep 02 12:57:16 in fact, his kernel posted SHOULD almost boot Sep 02 12:57:18 if someone will present me with suitable files for a similar device Sep 02 12:57:20 should almost boot? Sep 02 12:57:21 I will try it Sep 02 12:57:24 o.00 Sep 02 12:57:28 SHOULD ALMOST BOOT? Sep 02 12:57:30 O.O Sep 02 12:57:33 Framework, the ACTUAL kernel I think should work Sep 02 12:57:35 for booting android Sep 02 12:57:45 but the initrd is obviously needing to be right Sep 02 12:58:20 so which kernel does boot lol Sep 02 12:58:36 I thought the jonpry kernel was already booting Sep 02 12:59:23 yes Sep 02 12:59:27 it should be fine Sep 02 12:59:38 but what I am trying to say is that I don't have sources for the one I'm currently using Sep 02 12:59:39 team-touchdroid.com is down Sep 02 12:59:41 so I cannot personally confirm Sep 02 12:59:52 hmm yeah Sep 02 12:59:58 fnj00-work, ^^^^^ Sep 02 13:00:17 Pulser did you try out the patch from javier for touch screen Sep 02 13:00:18 was up earlier this morning so must have died within the last hour or 2 Sep 02 13:00:34 helfrez, yes I was using the server earlier Sep 02 13:00:37 for the wiki stuff Sep 02 13:00:46 tom_say, not yet, I need to look into this more Sep 02 13:00:50 someone else may have though Sep 02 13:01:01 k just wondering Sep 02 13:01:06 sure Sep 02 13:01:10 got a link to it again? Sep 02 13:01:19 I might try it on my compile box Sep 02 13:01:21 yup let me get it Sep 02 13:01:24 ty Sep 02 13:01:42 https://github.com/martinezjavier/nook_color/tree/master/cyttsp_android_v2.6.32.9_patches Sep 02 13:02:21 sry guize was testing the effectiveness of my vps Sep 02 13:02:34 it is fixt Sep 02 13:02:56 http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-says-it-has-no-intention-buying-webos Sep 02 13:03:23 haha ok Sep 02 13:04:33 ROFL http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/09/01/irony-alert-apple-says-samsung-and-motorola-are-anticompetitive-because-of-their-patents/ Sep 02 13:07:07 I blame rhcp. Sep 02 13:07:21 farchord, for what sin, and reason? :P Sep 02 13:07:26 No idea. Sep 02 13:07:37 lol Sep 02 13:07:37 true Sep 02 13:07:37 I will join you then Sep 02 13:07:37 :) Sep 02 13:07:43 So hot Sep 02 13:07:45 cant come down Sep 02 13:07:51 You got my head goin round and round Sep 02 13:08:19 tom_say, am looking at that code Sep 02 13:08:28 I see an issue, as that's for OMAP2 board Sep 02 13:08:42 does anyone know what /arch we are using here? Sep 02 13:08:53 arch-ie! Sep 02 13:09:04 Archie comics! Sep 02 13:09:06 * farchord giggles. Sep 02 13:09:25 Sonic , Sally, Tails, Antoine Sep 02 13:09:35 lol Sep 02 13:10:10 yeah i was just checking it out too Sep 02 13:10:14 so... Sep 02 13:10:23 I don't know what best to do here Sep 02 13:10:26 compile compile Sep 02 13:10:28 as obviously it's not OMAP Sep 02 13:10:30 I love when things compile Sep 02 13:10:32 it would need a couple of fixes Sep 02 13:10:34 Framework, which arch are we using here? Sep 02 13:10:37 err Sep 02 13:10:39 o.o Sep 02 13:10:40 mach-??? Sep 02 13:10:45 ie. it's not OMAP2 Sep 02 13:10:56 --- a/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-evt-peripherals.c Sep 02 13:10:56 +++ b/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-evt-peripherals.c Sep 02 13:11:02 mach-msm Sep 02 13:11:06 ok Sep 02 13:11:35 Green eyes are fresh Sep 02 13:11:36 linux/cyttsp.h in tenderlion.c would be needed Sep 02 13:11:53 linux/input* Sep 02 13:12:13 hmmmm Sep 02 13:12:16 i just saw that too Sep 02 13:14:59 k guize driving home, try not to crash the site while im gone ;) Sep 02 13:15:11 fnj00-work Sep 02 13:15:15 I need to talk to you Sep 02 13:15:20 when you get home lol Sep 02 13:15:23 k Sep 02 13:15:33 PM me when you do Sep 02 13:16:04 30 minute drive, expect a pm in about 45 Sep 02 13:16:17 Sounds cool :) Sep 02 13:26:04 http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wp9ahaxirtm39a6 Sep 02 13:30:35 is that an android kernel Framework? Sep 02 13:47:07 Flemmard Sep 02 13:47:12 yes Sep 02 13:47:34 Do you have the initrd that needs to be added to kernel Sep 02 13:48:16 ? Sep 02 13:52:18 Flemmard? lol I'm going to take that as a no Sep 02 13:52:41 sorry im busy Sep 02 13:53:04 Understandable :) Sep 02 14:03:21 finally got this GOD DAMN mosquitoe Sep 02 14:06:14 :) Sep 02 14:11:22 :( Framework kernel no workie Sep 02 14:12:08 whoops :-P Sep 02 14:13:50 fnj00, yeah I can't get any of the kernels to boot completely so far Sep 02 14:14:29 i got one to boot last night Sep 02 14:14:32 farthest I get is where you get the little screen glitch white band over the tux logo and it eventually reboots to webos Sep 02 14:14:46 Pulser: should be easy to determine the arch Sep 02 14:14:52 yeah it's mach-msm Sep 02 14:14:53 it will be in the Makfiles after config Sep 02 14:14:53 I think Sep 02 14:15:04 okay, so port that patch over and apply it Sep 02 14:15:19 those files should be vaguely similar Sep 02 14:15:19 well Sep 02 14:15:22 the file didn't even exist :P Sep 02 14:15:25 ah Sep 02 14:15:26 so I will try a build Sep 02 14:15:30 what does that actually do Sep 02 14:15:30 as it was just "glue" Sep 02 14:15:32 the 001 patch Sep 02 14:15:33 then see what goes wrong Sep 02 14:15:35 I see Sep 02 14:15:35 yeah the 001 one Sep 02 14:15:43 so just setting up buildbox Sep 02 14:15:49 maybe that arch is goofy and needs those patches? i dunno Sep 02 14:15:57 i really need to get a vm setup again so i can attempt builds. Sep 02 14:16:23 i expect a full report by lunch, Pulser ;) Sep 02 14:16:31 Pulser, several files are missing for the patch to apply Sep 02 14:16:46 max17042.h namely Sep 02 14:16:52 tom_say, yeah I had a look Sep 02 14:16:54 I have something to build Sep 02 14:16:57 also, dunno if you guys have talked to rhcp - he says the developer of this driver thinks our issue is in the android build Sep 02 14:16:59 not in the kernel Sep 02 14:17:00 but this stupid script is a mess Sep 02 14:17:07 for the build Sep 02 14:17:10 yeah I talk to rhcp Sep 02 14:17:11 we will see Sep 02 14:17:27 also, that htc puccini rom is leaked.. might make a nice 3.0 base to kang ;) Sep 02 14:17:38 OK I gotta jet. Later and good luck Sep 02 14:19:18 Hi Sep 02 14:19:37 Necrosan[c], I already thought of that one :) Sep 02 14:21:58 * Pulser is building a kernel Sep 02 14:22:14 •Pulser• link me when u dun Sep 02 14:22:29 fnj00, will do, but my kernel won't have ramdisk so I need soeone clever to do that Sep 02 14:22:31 grats? Sep 02 14:37:35 haha "What would you do if I stuck my cock in the warp drive?" Sep 02 14:37:38 DJO ftw Sep 02 14:39:42 hey farchord Sep 02 14:39:51 hey Sep 02 14:39:55 See if you like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2v6rXs5J9M Sep 02 14:41:49 lol! Sep 02 14:42:19 Voltaire is awesome Sep 02 14:46:15 Two of my other favorites are "Goodnight Demonslayer" and "Dead Girls" Sep 02 14:48:20 someone call this number: 9992067101 Sep 02 14:49:05 sup fools Sep 02 14:50:16 I'm a fool say Hi Sep 02 14:50:20 say=so Sep 02 14:52:51 anyone know if android.git.kernel.org is working? keep getting network errors? Sep 02 14:53:09 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/09/linux-kernel-archives-host-compromised-by-attacker.ars Sep 02 14:57:15 ah! rpierce99 thanks! that explains it Sep 02 15:08:05 hi guys Sep 02 15:08:12 HI Sep 02 15:08:17 you want to have my manbabies? Sep 02 15:08:20 ... Sep 02 15:08:20 pregnancy hurts Sep 02 15:08:23 kthxbai Sep 02 15:08:45 Hi Sep 02 15:08:53 is the wire Sep 02 15:09:14 is the wirc in the catalog wA Sep 02 15:09:26 way better than the preware? Sep 02 15:09:36 how can i format my ext3f partition on touchpad? Sep 02 15:09:49 I wanna reinstall ubuntu Sep 02 15:09:59 Cai: #webos-internals Sep 02 15:10:25 same for onetoootreefor|t :) Sep 02 15:10:54 its not the same the screens are way different Sep 02 15:11:31 myn\ Sep 02 15:11:35 are you the same myn on Efnet? Sep 02 15:11:43 I use the one from Preware and I like it a lot. I haven't tried the other though. Sep 02 15:12:37 myn is cereal@cpe-76-181-32-220.insight.res.rr.com same myn Sep 02 15:12:49 wow Sep 02 15:12:56 so hes a big brother fan too? Sep 02 15:12:58 =-D Sep 02 15:17:33 speaking of webos apps, is there a native touchpad app for the camera? Sep 02 15:18:06 i downloaded a camera app somewhere Sep 02 15:18:08 I found one called 'Camera' I think in Preware. Sep 02 15:18:10 To my knowledge, preware has one. Sep 02 15:18:41 There is one called digicamera lite in the app catalog that is free Sep 02 15:19:14 both camera & digicamera SUCK tho. this camera quality is horrible. hopefully Android has better drivers for it. Sep 02 15:19:25 yeah im sure no driver will make it better Sep 02 15:19:52 it's like 1.3 mp and nothing special, I have a better camera on my dick Sep 02 15:19:54 The actual camera just sucks, it's meant for streaming over WiFi. Sep 02 15:20:03 I'd feel stupid taking a picture with a tablet anyway Sep 02 15:20:16 ive tried two different camera apps and they dont even take pictures. maybe my camera is broken? Sep 02 15:20:30 did you check your tcp/ip settings? Sep 02 15:21:15 I just dont get how they have skype for webos, and there is no way to use the camera. Sep 02 15:21:29 same reason they had quick office but couldn't edit shit Sep 02 15:21:32 hp sucks at everything Sep 02 15:21:42 You can edit in QO now I believe Sep 02 15:21:46 yeah now Sep 02 15:21:50 months after release Sep 02 15:21:51 Also, if anyone is interested, ecost still has the case and keyboard for the touchpad for the reduced price; they're sold out on the touchstone tho Sep 02 15:22:34 Also, if anyone is interested and just wants to know for fun you can take a screenshot by holding power and hitting the home button Sep 02 15:26:28 I have had 3 touchstones cancelled so far Sep 02 15:27:00 I've ordered and received only one on my first try, OnSale. Sep 02 15:27:18 Bought standard shipping (5-7 days) and got it in 2, too. Sep 02 15:29:00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/260846550482?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_500wt_977 Sep 02 15:29:16 Has anyone played with a Blackberry PlayBook? Sep 02 15:30:11 Ryan_Smith: yes, i had one for a week Sep 02 15:36:46 just ordered the hp case from ecost. Thanks pluton! Sep 02 15:37:31 I have that case and it's nice. I like it for the stand Sep 02 15:38:03 i bought the ghost armor for my TP Sep 02 15:42:06 yay just confirmed my touchpad was delivered to y address in us and was dropped off at the guy whos coming here on sundays house cant wait xD!!!!!!!!!!111 Sep 02 15:42:28 :D !!!111oneoneone Sep 02 15:42:46 amazon dropped touchstones to $50 Sep 02 15:42:50 prime eligible Sep 02 15:42:51 woot Sep 02 15:43:10 i got my touchstone from pc richard for 39.99, free shippin, no taxxx :D Sep 02 15:43:27 has anyone here had experience connecting the touchpad with webos to WPA enterprise security with PEAP and MSCHAPv2? I cannot get it to connect at all. Sep 02 15:43:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6KwsoahfGc&feature=relmfu Sep 02 15:48:03 50 is a rip for a touchstone Sep 02 15:48:23 word nickmv Sep 02 15:48:37 £60 still here on amazon UK! Sep 02 15:48:55 £35 direct from HP Sep 02 15:48:58 no brainer Sep 02 15:51:52 any recommendation for case? Sep 02 15:52:05 is the HP case for the touchpad worth it? Sep 02 15:52:23 the case costs the same as the touchstone, at least on amazon Sep 02 15:53:49 nickmv: its better than not having it Sep 02 15:53:59 i really like the case. altho i think its overpriced Sep 02 15:54:07 considering I will be using this for my tv remote Sep 02 16:01:32 whoa now. My HP order status now takes me to a shopping cart. WTF Sep 02 16:02:00 you rock myn Sep 02 16:02:08 nm Sep 02 16:07:23 if i was to get either the case or the touchstone, which would you guys recommend? and where's a good place to get it? Sep 02 16:07:40 can somebody cat the sysfs file for touchscreen under webos? Sep 02 16:07:44 although i guess they serve different purposes... Sep 02 16:07:47 i do want a case Sep 02 16:08:13 so, i guess my questions i more of should i get the HP case or a cheaper third party case? Sep 02 16:08:45 cases are for careless people! Sep 02 16:08:52 you wanna cheap out or go for something of quality? Sep 02 16:09:46 considering that an OEM case from HP is $20, it's worth it to get imo Sep 02 16:09:52 ecost still has them Sep 02 16:09:56 not the touchstone Sep 02 16:10:06 only place I found the touchstone was at amazon Sep 02 16:10:07 i already cracked my TP on one speaker, where the frame is very thin. and im not careless :/ Sep 02 16:10:08 $50 Sep 02 16:10:42 how did you crack your tp? Sep 02 16:11:02 i cant stand glossy devices without a cast. too slippery Sep 02 16:11:05 case Sep 02 16:11:06 dropped i bet Sep 02 16:11:17 i got the carbon fiber skin Sep 02 16:11:26 doesn't slip and doesn't leave fingerprints Sep 02 16:11:43 i just bought a case for the tp as well so hopefully it will arrive today Sep 02 16:11:53 what up folks Sep 02 16:12:26 The case is good but I personally dont like it, I would have thought the flap bit would have a magnet or something to keep it inplace Sep 02 16:12:34 I agree Benny Sep 02 16:12:41 That's my only complaint about it Sep 02 16:12:42 the one im getting has a strap to close the case Sep 02 16:13:05 use an elastic :P Sep 02 16:13:08 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E1UZJG Sep 02 16:13:13 Although I guess I could get a small velcro kit and apply one myself. Sep 02 16:13:23 Think Im going to get some velcro or something Sep 02 16:13:52 if you have sewing skills you can probably put in a ltach Sep 02 16:13:52 haha great minds think alike Sep 02 16:14:28 *latch Sep 02 16:15:04 where does you see the OEM case for $20? Sep 02 16:15:05 hobby stores or even stores like Michaels or Jo-Ann Fabrics sell latches that you can sew onto stuff Sep 02 16:15:19 if you want a secure hold Sep 02 16:15:20 http://www.hp.com/united-states/webos/us/en/shopping-touchpad.html here it says it's $49.99 Sep 02 16:15:30 amazon, ebay, other sites Sep 02 16:15:34 but not from HP Sep 02 16:15:51 amazon is a$45 Sep 02 16:16:08 it's weird spending 50 bucks for a case when the touchpad was 99. Sep 02 16:16:10 ahh fudge... fucking usps... takes me 3 days to sort my damn package so now they say my package will arrive tomorrow instead... Sep 02 16:16:28 descending, tell that to people who spend a ton of money for their colorware stuff Sep 02 16:16:38 i don't even know what that is Sep 02 16:16:52 lol let me send you a link Sep 02 16:16:59 looking at it now Sep 02 16:17:06 oh Sep 02 16:17:13 wel, it's expensive shit Sep 02 16:17:14 wow Sep 02 16:17:15 did the cases not go on sale for half price in the states too? Sep 02 16:17:33 1030 dollars for an ipad thing. haha Sep 02 16:17:57 it's 400 bucks Sep 02 16:18:00 if you already have the ipad Sep 02 16:18:12 oh still. Sep 02 16:18:25 that touchpad case you linked looks good Sep 02 16:18:26 ofcourse Sep 02 16:18:44 coloware is for people who wipe their asses with ben franklins Sep 02 16:19:01 i hope it will work good too lol. i wish i would arrive today.. not spend 2 days sitting around doing nothing Sep 02 16:19:40 What is the deal with people asking a business to do charity!? Sep 02 16:19:43 Seriously.... Sep 02 16:19:57 because they think businesses have money to toss around Sep 02 16:20:00 For grocery stores, okay, MAYBE. But for gaming server companies!? Sep 02 16:20:34 yo Sep 02 16:20:35 anyone have one of these? http://www.amazon.com/HP-VX403AA-ABL-Mini-Sleeve/dp/B0033RY7YC/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1314980128&sr=8-4 Sep 02 16:20:48 it looks nice Sep 02 16:20:56 my fucking brakes just totally went today lol Sep 02 16:21:02 got god damn air in the lines Sep 02 16:21:03 i would've gotten it.. if it actually opens up like a case Sep 02 16:21:16 as long as you're safe though Protekk Sep 02 16:21:30 mputtr, had to drive it to a shop using the parking brake lol Sep 02 16:21:32 :P Sep 02 16:21:35 ouch Sep 02 16:21:36 not fun to say the least Sep 02 16:21:46 more like nerve wracking Sep 02 16:21:53 sitting at a diner now waiting for them to call Sep 02 16:21:58 they said they'd get it done today Sep 02 16:22:00 $45 Sep 02 16:22:02 GET WAFFLES! Sep 02 16:22:13 whenever i think diner, i think waffles and coffee Sep 02 16:22:21 why didn't you just bleed the lines? Sep 02 16:22:41 thats what she said Sep 02 16:22:59 koss-, i did and it didnt do it plus i dont have everything i need for it tbh Sep 02 16:23:10 i'd rather pay the $45 to get it done right the first time lol Sep 02 16:32:45 fuck, i hate waiting for people to call Sep 02 16:32:51 i look at the time every two seconds Sep 02 16:33:06 and i only brought it there 20-30 minutes ago lmao Sep 02 16:37:13 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 02 16:38:04 What's news? Sep 02 16:38:09 leave Sep 02 16:38:12 read topic Sep 02 16:40:51 Is all of the current knowledge squelched until you have full implementation? Or is progress open somewhere? Sep 02 16:42:18 topic Sep 02 16:42:20 jeez Sep 02 16:42:26 umm Sep 02 16:42:32 don't be dumb Sep 02 16:42:34 i didn't ask for a status Sep 02 16:42:46 i asked if status is all they are providing Sep 02 16:43:02 or if there are docs somewhere to aide in others following in footsteps Sep 02 16:43:24 ie: There is video of a dual boot , so it's doable , so technically everyone should now be able to dual boot if the info is dropped publicly Sep 02 16:43:37 even if it's crippled and doesn't work Sep 02 16:44:27 I don't think they have anything like that released Sep 02 16:44:38 kk , that's what I was asking. Sep 02 16:44:40 for fear of people bricking their devices Sep 02 16:44:56 That should never be a fear, just add a disclaimer Sep 02 16:44:57 lol Sep 02 16:45:03 ATTN IDIOTS Sep 02 16:45:08 Don't do this , but here's how we did it Sep 02 16:46:48 Bikr, You're forgetting two things Sep 02 16:47:07 Bikr, 1- Idiots think they aren't idiots Sep 02 16:47:28 Bikr, 2- To slightly plagiate from a known US movie, half of the world are idiots. Sep 02 16:47:31 1 - A nice bricked reminder should suit them well then hah! Sep 02 16:48:20 2- Only half? #Optimist Sep 02 16:48:25 lol Sep 02 16:48:44 The margin did gain in width since the invention of the TV and the internet Sep 02 16:51:31 farchord: which is an interesting notion when considering the speed and efficiency at which information travels now. LoL Sep 02 16:51:52 got the hp case + hp keyboard + shipping for total of $59.97 from ecost.com Sep 02 16:52:19 they are sold out of the touchstone Sep 02 16:52:29 that's the problem Sep 02 16:52:40 your brain doesn't store information if it knows where it can easily get it Sep 02 16:52:44 aka google search Sep 02 16:53:47 rwest: this isn't true for all people in all circumstances Sep 02 16:53:48 google is my memory Sep 02 16:53:54 rwest: don't misquote the study Sep 02 16:53:54 for the average person Sep 02 16:53:58 sorry Sep 02 16:54:06 even saying "average person" is wrong Sep 02 16:54:56 eukreign, nice deal. Now find me a touchpad :) Sep 02 16:59:18 sCr|pTiC-: no idea, my brother bought two and gave me one Sep 02 17:03:02 did i miss anything? Sep 02 17:05:03 yeah, we all got android. Sep 02 17:05:13 ^ Sep 02 17:05:35 we also now have 4g! Sep 02 17:05:37 lol surreeee Sep 02 17:05:54 yeah our touchpads are also jet packs :P Sep 02 17:08:15 * roast_ hugs his android tp w/4g Sep 02 17:08:20 lool Sep 02 17:11:31 * Bikr hates not being able to dual boot his hp touchpad right now , even without a working touch screen.. Sep 02 17:11:58 now I got the kernal compiled, whats next? something about making a ram disk? Sep 02 17:14:44 is it something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/ramdisk.img bs=1k count=2048" via adp? Sep 02 17:15:36 dd /dev/zero to partition 6 Sep 02 17:15:54 jk don't do what jonpry did Sep 02 17:16:05 lol Sep 02 17:16:08 bye bye p6 Sep 02 17:16:12 oh shit... Sep 02 17:17:50 ok, thanks rwest.... aw shit... Sep 02 17:20:10 http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-booting-touchpad-flirts-android-reaches-second-base Sep 02 17:20:40 thats on the official touchdroid site Sep 02 17:20:51 i know.. Sep 02 17:28:39 did anyone hear anything back from the digitizer mfg? Sep 02 17:31:03 yeah Sep 02 17:32:08 are they going to release opensource dvrs or what? Sep 02 17:33:15 thats not dual boot Sep 02 17:34:48 What's not, possible negative nancy...? Sep 02 17:37:14 issuing a command via bootie to boot is not dual boot Sep 02 17:37:33 we don't issue a coomand to bootie Sep 02 17:38:24 They send a custom image to bootie. Which once the porting is complete they can flash to the touchpad permanently. Sep 02 17:40:55 they issue a command during bootie to push a kernel image... is not dual boot Sep 02 17:40:58 just sayin Sep 02 17:41:18 no ! Sep 02 17:41:24 we push the same boot image twice Sep 02 17:41:33 it's just that we havent pushed it as a default boot image .. Sep 02 17:42:45 testy are we... just sayin PUSHING anything during bootie to boot android is not dual booting Sep 02 17:42:56 ... Sep 02 17:43:03 well Sep 02 17:43:10 we could've pushed our uImage to /boot/uImage Sep 02 17:43:19 so we dont had to push anything Sep 02 17:45:52 in common sense dualboot is: booting->having an option to choose->choose one and boot this Sep 02 17:45:57 yes Sep 02 17:45:59 it's this Sep 02 17:46:09 except that atm we havent put the kernel 'default' Sep 02 17:46:17 well, the boot thingie Sep 02 17:49:25 douchey_, long story short, my guess is they're still doing changes to the image. Much easier to do changes to a boot image if it's injected manually than if it's automatic. You screw up, you dont semi-brick :P Sep 02 17:49:52 yes. Sep 02 17:50:05 that's it Sep 02 17:52:33 understood... but that doesn't change the fact the process you described is not dual booting Sep 02 17:52:54 Whatever. Sep 02 17:53:35 douchey_: hmm .. booting, key up for android, key down for webos Sep 02 17:53:37 is not a dual boot ? Sep 02 17:53:39 ok .. Sep 02 17:53:40 choosing between two OSes isnt dual booting? Sep 02 17:53:42 so what is ? Sep 02 17:53:59 he is just being douchey Sep 02 17:54:09 apparently Sep 02 17:56:20 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi_boot Sep 02 17:56:31 "act of installing multiple operating system" Sep 02 17:56:38 the kernel is not installed but pushed Sep 02 17:56:40 hence Sep 02 17:56:42 not dual booting Sep 02 17:56:51 the kernel isn't pushed Sep 02 17:57:03 lol Sep 02 17:57:31 i didnt remember this in the video, too. i thought that was all done from pc. so maybe its just the point of view (with the knowledge behind) what is causing the confusion Sep 02 17:57:46 no that guy's just being a retard Sep 02 17:58:07 kinda obvious with his nick :) Sep 02 17:58:18 That's like saying, I install an OS on my USB drive, it doesn't count in my multiboot because its on an external drive Sep 02 17:58:35 So wiping my arse is only wiping if I do it from the front to back, but not the other way right got it!!! Sep 02 17:59:26 semantics Sep 02 17:59:33 only if the toilet paper was on the roll, if it was loose then it wouldnt be wiping Sep 02 18:00:13 Gotcha, right How about if I use wet wipes or it that multi wiping Sep 02 18:00:36 we can easily make it act as a real dual boot .. Sep 02 18:00:43 but .. it's just annoying ^^ Sep 02 18:00:49 at the actual state Sep 02 18:01:24 myn is excited to make some roms! Sep 02 18:02:01 Surly atm its more about POC, until we have all the hardware working correctly then the finer detail can be hammered out. Sep 02 18:04:06 multiboot is when there is the option to boot into 2 or more environments/OS from ONE device (internal disk, external/usb disk, cdrom, etc.) Having multiple boot devices available is different. If you have one OS on an internal disk, and one OS on an external disk this is not a dual boot system. It is a system with multiple boot devices. Chain loading is booting to one environment and then loading another environment ov Sep 02 18:04:06 er the initial environment. Sep 02 18:05:11 ….who cares about symantics? Sep 02 18:05:31 artillery crews Sep 02 18:10:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE&feature=player_embedded Sep 02 18:21:33 twistedsanity, wet wipes eh? Idk, I dont like feeling my wet butt cheeks later, I prefer the dry paper... Sep 02 18:26:23 farchord: start with wet wipes and finish with toilet paper Sep 02 18:26:37 That's a waste though Sep 02 18:26:42 squeaky clean Sep 02 18:26:54 I'm also kinda fat, it's already hard enough reaching the deep ends of the cavern... Sep 02 18:27:03 lmao Sep 02 18:27:09 TMI Sep 02 18:27:21 hey you asked for it Sep 02 18:27:33 i did not ask you about your weight Sep 02 18:27:52 so poop talk > Weight talk? lol Sep 02 18:28:28 by weight i meant your issues due to being fat Sep 02 18:28:46 aw c'mon, who here can say they are fat? Sep 02 18:29:05 .....liars Sep 02 18:30:09 i'm less fit than i want to be, does that qualify as fat? Sep 02 18:30:29 np Sep 02 18:32:23 i'm not fat, just pleasantly obese Sep 02 18:32:26 :) Sep 02 18:34:59 Fat is when you have to use a mirror to see you cock. Sep 02 18:36:16 Big boned, on a time out from the gym, in between exercise plans and a little podgy is anything below. Sep 02 18:37:39 i guess i'm not fat then Sep 02 18:38:03 i once fucked a big boned chick or was she just fat and I found a turkey leg in her fupa. Either way, she was giant. Sep 02 18:52:42 tsrohmers here Sep 02 18:52:44 ? Sep 02 18:54:42 siestacat: obviously that nickname is not here Sep 02 18:54:54 did you fail to look at your userlist? Sep 02 18:58:21 tsrohmers wont be showing up i dont believe anymore Sep 02 18:58:30 bbiab Sep 02 18:58:37 i heard he fell in a well. Sep 02 19:04:27 rhcp why? Sep 02 19:13:37 good luck with the touch support Sep 02 19:13:46 i hear its a doozy Sep 02 19:13:56 PUDDIN POP DOOP DEE WOP BOB DEBOP Sep 02 19:13:57 although i heard someone had an idea on this channel Sep 02 19:14:13 ZIP ZOP ZOOOPITY BOP Sep 02 19:14:57 cosbyitus, its contageous Sep 02 19:15:36 so is your mum Sep 02 19:15:41 i joke Sep 02 19:16:35 been in a 'your mum' joke mood today Sep 02 19:17:34 yo momma's glasses are so thick, when she looks at a map she sees people waving. Sep 02 19:17:48 hahah Sep 02 19:18:21 How is that possible? Why would a map move? <-- trolling Sep 02 19:19:04 your mums so fat that when she gave birth to you she thought she had brown wind instead Sep 02 19:19:29 some day i want to visit rand mcnally Sep 02 19:19:43 he's dead Sep 02 19:20:00 were all a little dead Sep 02 19:20:07 no its a place, i saw it on a map Sep 02 19:20:11 your momma's when the family wants to watch home movies they ask her to wear white. Sep 02 19:20:13 cells constantly dying Sep 02 19:20:20 aw Sep 02 19:20:28 add a fat in there =( Sep 02 19:20:38 failure Sep 02 19:20:40 haha Sep 02 19:20:42 big time Sep 02 19:21:01 4/10 for execution though Sep 02 19:21:48 your mum's so fat that she was cast as shamoo's stunt double Sep 02 19:21:57 Yo Mama's so dumb she waited all day at a stop sign. Sep 02 19:22:58 your mums so dumb that she read a stop sign and ceased to exist thus creating a paradox and destroying the universe Sep 02 19:23:01 omg ew--------> https://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/epic-fail-photos-portable-snack-fail.jpg Sep 02 19:23:18 im eating Sep 02 19:23:22 should i click? Sep 02 19:23:23 look at that fupa Sep 02 19:23:36 ok Sep 02 19:23:41 zondajag its SFW bro Sep 02 19:24:03 is it safe for chunks though? Sep 02 19:24:12 its not gross Sep 02 19:24:17 just like wtf Sep 02 19:24:29 haha Sep 02 19:24:41 haha wtf Sep 02 19:24:47 lol Sep 02 19:25:00 mmmm.... mayo Sep 02 19:25:08 just eww Sep 02 19:25:10 lol Sep 02 19:25:19 say hello to my business partner.....this jar of mayo Sep 02 19:25:36 i believe thats the new mayo with olive oil too Sep 02 19:26:28 so any luck with anything? Sep 02 19:26:35 get that unbricking thing working? Sep 02 19:26:42 or atleast the c runtime? Sep 02 19:27:34 what's a "c runtime" Sep 02 19:29:29 * eukreign feels like there might be another semantics argument brewing Sep 02 19:29:41 :O Sep 02 19:29:48 i dunno Sep 02 19:30:07 something rchp was trying to get running on qdl mode Sep 02 19:30:25 its an environment that runs things coded in c? Sep 02 19:30:39 like windows Sep 02 19:30:40 c is compiled down to machine code... Sep 02 19:31:02 it's run by the CPU Sep 02 19:31:14 it's not virtualized Sep 02 19:31:20 ok Sep 02 19:31:33 is that done then? Sep 02 19:31:37 lol Sep 02 19:31:41 Not yet Sep 02 19:32:02 focussing on other efforts now? Sep 02 19:32:08 Yeah Sep 02 19:32:21 touchscreen Sep 02 19:32:26 ooo Sep 02 19:32:31 without that the rest is hopeless if you ask me Sep 02 19:32:37 yeh Sep 02 19:33:01 some stupid rumour that some people got it working but ill believe that when i see it Sep 02 19:33:13 yea, lots of rumors Sep 02 19:33:21 people bsing is what causes them Sep 02 19:33:21 by some people i mean the unmentionables Sep 02 19:33:33 how are you guys approaching this? are you writing a driver from scratch? Sep 02 19:33:38 its counterproductive Sep 02 19:33:44 rumours Sep 02 19:33:46 trying ti figure out why it works fine in webos Sep 02 19:33:48 and not in android Sep 02 19:33:49 speculation Sep 02 19:33:59 seems like userspace firmware loading issues to me Sep 02 19:34:11 magic? Sep 02 19:34:13 oh, okay, so you are just using the same binary driver as webos Sep 02 19:34:31 not using anything. but kernel atm Sep 02 19:34:38 rhcp[linux]: Don't worry, my [BanHammeer +1] has a protection against people who BS. Sep 02 19:34:40 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Hidd Sep 02 19:34:43 feel free to read Sep 02 19:34:50 farchord, sounds good Sep 02 19:34:57 i dont pay much attention to this chan :) Sep 02 19:36:50 rhcp[linux]: so, looks like you can access keyboard but not the touchscreen? Sep 02 19:36:59 cant access anything Sep 02 19:37:10 the only things working in android. are the vol up vol down and home buttons and power Sep 02 19:37:15 GPIO buttons Sep 02 19:38:14 <@rhcp[linux]> did you try that build i shown you last night... to see if touch worked? Sep 02 19:38:26 of course its noting more then we have. Sep 02 19:38:32 ok Sep 02 19:38:33 its been tried a long time ago Sep 02 19:38:37 by "access" i mean you are getting feedback from physical hardware Sep 02 19:38:49 no feedback no nada Sep 02 19:38:54 cant even unlock the lockscreen Sep 02 19:39:00 no touch Sep 02 19:39:03 whats so complex :) Sep 02 19:39:20 can you get a mouse working? Sep 02 19:39:23 um ok so could this be firmware related? Sep 02 19:39:30 how? plug it into my ass? Sep 02 19:39:42 rhcp[linux]: please do that Sep 02 19:39:44 can be fun to see Sep 02 19:39:45 there are not ports Sep 02 19:39:46 or not Sep 02 19:39:48 usb hub Sep 02 19:39:59 there is no usb host support Sep 02 19:40:07 its not just magically going to work Sep 02 19:40:32 magic is so nice Sep 02 19:40:42 unlock the screen with your mind? O.o Sep 02 19:40:49 can do it from adb Sep 02 19:40:50 weird how it worked with that quic one though Sep 02 19:40:54 but whats the point Sep 02 19:41:01 yup Sep 02 19:41:16 well, you can run adb on your phone and control the tablet that way :-P Sep 02 19:41:31 j/k Sep 02 19:41:39 how do you open additional tabs in webchat? Sep 02 19:41:48 tabs? Sep 02 19:41:55 to other channels? Sep 02 19:42:04 /join #channel Sep 02 19:42:09 ok Sep 02 19:42:11 thanks Sep 02 19:42:28 np Sep 02 19:47:08 Got touchscreen working Sep 02 19:47:16 in webOS /troll Sep 02 19:47:47 On the bright side though, I'm finding out more info about the drivers Sep 02 19:48:19 DarkRedFlame, any info is most welcome Sep 02 19:48:45 rhcp[linux]: I know Sep 02 19:49:02 Just putting it in perspective to see if it's important enough Sep 02 19:49:58 what would be cool. is to find another device using this touchpanel/chip Sep 02 19:50:01 using android Sep 02 19:50:33 The only thing I can find is the HTC Puccini Sep 02 19:50:40 And even that is speculation Sep 02 19:50:51 i have the rom here. Sep 02 19:50:58 but i dont think it uses same? Sep 02 19:54:18 I dont think so either Sep 02 19:55:07 root@root:/home/rhcp/Downloads/Puccini/system/etc/firmware# ls Sep 02 19:55:07 BCM4329B1_002.002.023.0589.0632.hcd bcm4329.hcd fw_bcm4329_apsta.bin fw_bcm4329_apsta.bin.xb fw_bcm4329.bin fw_bcm4329.bin.xb leia_pfp_470.fw leia_pm4_470.fw vidc_1080p.fw yamato_pfp.fw yamato_pm4.fw Sep 02 19:58:40 Ehh Sep 02 19:58:47 fw_bcm4329_apsta.bin is for tethering Sep 02 19:58:47 <@rhcp[linux]> what would be cool. is to find another device using this touchpanel/chip - went through all current model pads on the market and searched crack open and looked at all the chips inside.... most tablets are using the atmel chip.... the only ones that might have the same chip is the china made tabs Sep 02 19:58:48 mehhh Sep 02 19:58:54 I know that much Sep 02 19:59:41 paddb.net says htc puccini has a Qualcomm Adreno 205 graphic controller no more detail Sep 02 19:59:41 * aDr|aN- slaps sCr|pTiC- around a bit with a large trout Sep 02 20:01:14 leia_pfp_470.fw is GPU Sep 02 20:05:37 wont know more about HTC Jetstream (htc puccini) until it comes out on sept 4 Sep 02 20:06:06 didnt att release 8/31? Sep 02 20:06:15 HTC Puccini doesn't use the same touchscreen Sep 02 20:06:20 That's out of the question Sep 02 20:06:22 ok Sep 02 20:10:06 rhcp[linux]: find anything else out last night? Sep 02 20:24:45 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?4336-Palm-Kernel-Source-with-Cypress-drivers... Sep 02 20:25:11 NO WE CAN'T: 1- Use dump drivers 2- Use WebOS Drivers Sep 02 20:25:12 any idea if this is a workable approach? Sep 02 20:25:21 Read the header Sep 02 20:25:41 Hahaha who put together the youtube video for the dual boot? Sep 02 20:25:57 rhcp Sep 02 20:26:01 ooh Sep 02 20:26:03 i'm still op. Sep 02 20:26:08 The intro makes it sound epic and then it just leads into RHCP talking in a normal manner : P Sep 02 20:26:31 way anticlimatic(the video not what you guys have accomplished) Sep 02 20:27:52 who's in charge of the touchdroid prj? Sep 02 20:27:59 hey bedalus Sep 02 20:28:01 behnaam, Sep 02 20:28:06 long time no see :) Sep 02 20:28:06 * bikcmp humps Pulser Sep 02 20:28:12 sup Sep 02 20:28:13 hi Pulser Sep 02 20:28:13 *reads header.. illiterate Sep 02 20:28:18 lol Sep 02 20:28:21 bedalus, tab fail Sep 02 20:28:31 er Sep 02 20:28:35 you were talking to me? Sep 02 20:28:36 Pulser: you're working on this? Sep 02 20:28:47 aye Sep 02 20:28:53 well, I made a build that boots Sep 02 20:28:55 of 2.3.5 Sep 02 20:28:56 Pulser: humphumphump Sep 02 20:29:03 <.< Sep 02 20:29:10 Pulser: yeah, I've been off from working on any type of android hacking for a while now Sep 02 20:29:14 hehehe Sep 02 20:29:17 hey Pulser Sep 02 20:29:18 yeah, you got a TP I guess Sep 02 20:29:19 Pulser: real-life catched up on me Sep 02 20:29:22 mmmhm Sep 02 20:29:26 life's like that :( Sep 02 20:29:48 Pulser: getting one, got it from ebay. Sep 02 20:29:52 nice Sep 02 20:29:54 Pulser: throw me a tp? Sep 02 20:29:57 but yeah rhcp[linux] is the person to talk to Sep 02 20:30:00 i really need tp Sep 02 20:30:02 bikcmp, not got one, and not giving any out Sep 02 20:30:05 I have 1 Sep 02 20:30:05 toilet paper that is Sep 02 20:30:08 thatis it :( Sep 02 20:30:11 LOL Sep 02 20:30:37 Pulser: so whats the status atm? need to write a touchscreen driver from skratch? Sep 02 20:30:43 well... Sep 02 20:30:45 touchscreen is the issue Sep 02 20:30:48 copy it from webos kernel? Sep 02 20:30:50 basically, the dump has some kind of driver Sep 02 20:30:56 (the android dump) Sep 02 20:30:56 BUT Sep 02 20:31:02 we cannot get it and have no sources Sep 02 20:31:13 bikcmp, refer to the topic, namely part 2 in SCREAMING CAPITALS Sep 02 20:31:18 we can't use webos drivers Sep 02 20:31:30 Pulser: who reads topics anymore Sep 02 20:31:30 behnaam, there's little info on this controller, appears to be the first of a new range Sep 02 20:31:34 bikcmp, you should :P Sep 02 20:31:42 Pulser: should is a vague word. Sep 02 20:31:43 Pulser: so nobody has the dump in this team? thought rootzwiki got it? Sep 02 20:31:49 behnaam, we have the dump Sep 02 20:31:49 * bikcmp continues humping Pulser's leg. Sep 02 20:31:51 no sources though Sep 02 20:32:01 we need sources as it's a kernel drvier Sep 02 20:32:11 Pulser: yeah, well anybody taken a look at it in IDA? Sep 02 20:32:13 if you dump the config you'll find a config_omething_touchscreen_hp Sep 02 20:32:20 behnaam, not yet, want to try? :P Sep 02 20:32:47 btw guys slightly off-topic but AudiophileHDpro is free with this code ebmxr53816hugpb (THIS ISNT THE AUDOBON BIRDS CODE THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY MISLABELED) Sep 02 20:32:57 Pulser: yeah, I just need to get windows installed on this. became a macfag a few months ago Sep 02 20:33:01 haha Sep 02 20:33:07 well... I tried lion Sep 02 20:33:13 it is the best *nix I've run on my new PC Sep 02 20:33:17 but I need the power of a proper OS Sep 02 20:33:20 lion os x? Sep 02 20:33:20 so back to win/lin Sep 02 20:33:21 or I could see if we have it installed on our university computers Sep 02 20:33:50 i need a sane mac Sep 02 20:33:50 lol Sep 02 20:34:17 Linux Mint Debian Edition with Window VM in Unity ftw Sep 02 20:34:26 what linux distro are you on now Pulser? Sep 02 20:35:00 behnaam, ubuntu 11.04 or Mint or something like that Sep 02 20:35:05 Have you guys already looked at the source Acer Iconia a500? Sep 02 20:35:05 depends what PC I am on Sep 02 20:35:15 wassup Sep 02 20:35:37 ften-work, you mean with respect to touchscreen? Sep 02 20:35:42 Yes Sep 02 20:36:06 nope, but does it use same hardware? Sep 02 20:36:24 I thought the dumped config from the android touchpad has the following line: CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_MXT1386_I2C=y Sep 02 20:36:33 I think it may Sep 02 20:36:35 but it also had Sep 02 20:36:38 I believe the mxt1386 is also used by the acer a500 Sep 02 20:36:42 config_touchscreen_cypress_hp Sep 02 20:36:43 or something Sep 02 20:36:48 I believe the latter is the harder bit :P Sep 02 20:38:35 Well check out the acer source specifically amtel_maxtouch.c , when you get a chance it might help out. Sep 02 20:38:50 ok Sep 02 20:38:58 how about the color artifacts? Sep 02 20:39:18 behnaam, I think you just need to use proper graphics drivers Sep 02 20:39:30 I haven't a clue about that, but I kinda need a touchscreen working before i move on :P Sep 02 20:39:31 surfaceflinger maybe? Sep 02 20:39:39 yeah true Sep 02 20:39:47 perhaps Sep 02 20:40:08 <|Jason8|> ETA? Sep 02 20:40:13 <|Jason8|> >_> Sep 02 20:40:14 <|Jason8|> <_< Sep 02 20:40:34 I'll take a look at what I can find using IDA tomorrow after work Sep 02 20:41:12 k Sep 02 20:42:03 Here is a link to the source that I was talking about http://www.filesonic.com/file/1297683411 Sep 02 20:42:16 HE ASKED FOR ETA Sep 02 20:42:49 meo.....another cat has died lol Sep 02 20:43:03 eta?? Sep 02 20:43:05 make it 2 :P Sep 02 20:44:27 meow... XP Sep 02 20:48:24 what's gives?! when is this going to be done? :-P Sep 02 20:48:45 poor cats Sep 02 21:04:36 eta eta eta die kitties die mwhahahah Sep 02 21:04:41 no i dont want one Sep 02 21:04:48 no eta for me Sep 02 21:04:53 meow eeek Sep 02 21:04:55 dead Sep 02 21:04:56 heheh Sep 02 21:05:51 * farchord has kicked zondajag from #touchpad. (Idiot.... XD) Sep 02 21:08:03 Pulser|Offline: Sep 02 21:09:00 anybody know whether the touchscreen driver in the dump is a loadable/dynamic module or built-in? Sep 02 21:09:19 reverse engineering the driver otherwise will be a heck of a job to achieve Sep 02 21:12:18 lol Sep 02 21:12:40 echo tango alpha? Sep 02 21:12:48 Durr Sep 02 21:12:53 If Qualcomm was able to put froyo on the touchpad with current drivers, what is the advantage to having gingerbread? Sep 02 21:12:57 so you guys have no leads on this? Sep 02 21:13:03 depressing Sep 02 21:13:03 whiskey tango foxtrot Sep 02 21:13:13 Feel free to make your own Android port Sep 02 21:13:31 To1776: +1 Sep 02 21:13:45 heheh i didnt mean offence, its just a sad sad day Sep 02 21:13:50 Don't get me wrong, I'm curious as to the advantage of gingerbread for our device. Sep 02 21:14:02 newer version Sep 02 21:14:07 It's not like we have a choice, do we? Sep 02 21:14:11 Can't port Honeycomb Sep 02 21:14:12 less of a distance from ice cream sandwich Sep 02 21:14:34 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246300 Sep 02 21:15:34 naoko that lead has been beaten to death Sep 02 21:15:47 oh, damn. Sep 02 21:16:37 sorry for all the bs, im a bit off today Sep 02 21:17:19 (Been beaten more than Saddam...) Sep 02 21:17:36 wasnt he beheaded? Sep 02 21:17:53 or hung? Sep 02 21:17:57 meh w/e Sep 02 21:18:02 i cant remember Sep 02 21:18:04 beheading is what they do to americans Sep 02 21:18:17 they hung him Sep 02 21:18:32 I'm still hoping that cypress might come through or a accidental on purpose leak. Sep 02 21:19:12 not happening Sep 02 21:19:15 or maybe google when they release ice cream sandwich will just conveniently have everything there to install on the TP Sep 02 21:19:25 because after all the way google makes money is from people using android ;-) Sep 02 21:19:27 they havent made a device with it Sep 02 21:19:36 have any other android port project failed cause of a proprietary driver problem? Sep 02 21:20:14 behnaam - lsmod output on touchpad - ar6000 292742 0 and thats it Sep 02 21:20:41 dumbund: ok :/ Sep 02 21:20:50 ar6000 is the wifi module Sep 02 21:21:46 which kernel version is the dump using? Sep 02 21:22:10 2.6.**? Sep 02 21:23:16 wiki says 2.6.35.7 Sep 02 21:23:55 the one on my touchpad is 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin Sep 02 21:24:11 dumbund: ok thanks Sep 02 21:24:52 wheres captain craptain? wasnt he one of the first to get it to boot? Sep 02 21:28:23 ok this project seems to have hit a roadblock Sep 02 21:28:32 ill check back some other time Sep 02 21:28:35 lol Sep 02 21:28:36 such insight Sep 02 21:28:58 lol its so blatent (not) Sep 02 21:29:07 isnt that what happens when you build somethjng from d Sep 02 21:29:12 scratch* Sep 02 21:29:31 a series of roadblock til it works Sep 02 21:29:33 road blocks are good Sep 02 21:30:07 im going to check back when they hit the next roadblock Sep 02 21:30:20 well i say check back Sep 02 21:30:33 but i mean regain interest :P Sep 02 21:31:03 adios Sep 02 21:31:13 good luck guys Sep 02 21:31:17 hey guys Sep 02 21:31:22 it will happen Sep 02 21:31:30 ill be around Sep 02 21:31:35 just not speaking Sep 02 21:31:58 whew Sep 02 21:32:23 Nothing yet Sep 02 21:32:56 if i read it right in the wiki, the touchscreen didn't work, have you tried the enac drivers? Sep 02 21:34:47 perpe: link? Sep 02 21:35:42 evening folks Sep 02 21:38:22 @ I'm using enac drivery for my touchscreen in unbuntu (other panel then the touchpad) Sep 02 21:38:48 oh in that case Sep 02 21:38:49 but the enac site says, their drivers work also with Cypress Semiconductor Sep 02 21:38:57 perpe, is there src? Sep 02 21:39:01 or binary only? Sep 02 21:39:16 this is the link to the supportet touchscreens http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices.html Sep 02 21:39:37 and this an android how to http://lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-android-howto.html Sep 02 21:39:46 is source Sep 02 21:40:31 http://git.lii-enac.fr/ Sep 02 21:40:39 i hoppe that helps you a littel bit, Sep 02 21:41:20 http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/ Sep 02 21:41:34 i may sell my tp put some extra money and go that way Sep 02 21:41:56 I like the 7 inch form factor better Sep 02 21:43:07 I loved my 7" archos Sep 02 21:43:12 RIP Sep 02 21:44:28 seems promising Sep 02 21:47:21 perpe, do you know how to switch it to android? Sep 02 21:47:24 im reading what is says Sep 02 21:47:28 but it doesnt make sense Sep 02 21:47:42 rhcp@root:/mnt/storage/android/touchdroid/dev/android/kernel/drivers$ git checkout android Sep 02 21:47:43 error: pathspec 'android' did not match any file(s) known to git. Sep 02 21:47:45 I'm sorry,y but I#m new to android Sep 02 21:47:45 should do it. Sep 02 21:47:56 but i dont see any brances Sep 02 21:48:57 have you read the android how to? Sep 02 21:49:16 yea Sep 02 21:51:49 I#m sorry, but i can't help you. i'm not a developer only end user, knowing enac from ubuntu, i read that you have problems with the touchscreen and tought mybe thisn can help you a little bit. but you can write to the enac developers. Sep 02 21:52:43 ive written to cypress with no reponse Sep 02 21:53:05 rhcp[linux]: the android git on kernel.org is down Sep 02 21:53:11 i know :) Sep 02 21:53:15 i cant sync stuff Sep 02 21:53:24 very annoying Sep 02 21:53:36 enac seems like a good shot Sep 02 21:54:14 i dono. I think we are good with what we have. we just need to figure out how to load the needed firmwares from userspace Sep 02 21:54:17 since webos uses HID Sep 02 21:55:37 Don't sweat the technique' Sep 02 21:56:18 our current kernel works fine in webos. everything works Sep 02 21:56:26 its just loading the firmware in android. I think Sep 02 21:56:33 webos uses HID Sep 02 21:56:35 to load it Sep 02 21:58:14 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Hidd Sep 02 21:58:17 if anyone cares to read Sep 02 21:59:11 thx rhcp[linux] Sep 02 21:59:50 im sure you saw this but http://lii-enac.fr/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-input/hid-multitouch.git;h=33e90da0f505781198ac616d236e2920302cc432;a=tree;f=drivers/hid Sep 02 22:00:24 what? that is 404's Sep 02 22:00:25 yea Sep 02 22:00:43 lol i didnt check the link Sep 02 22:00:49 i just copied Sep 02 22:01:00 sry Sep 02 22:01:09 np Sep 02 22:02:40 onetoo: isn't that for usb-hid drivers? Sep 02 22:04:13 i dont believe so but they dont exist so i cant be sure Sep 02 22:05:06 atleAst they dont right now Sep 02 22:07:47 http://lii-enac.fr/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-input/drivers.git;a=blob;f=drivers/hid/Kconfig;h=48f7ae6f1c95bedfaf5de3e6b8fc86d8ff146130;hb=refs/heads/hid-multitouch Sep 02 22:07:57 config HID_CYPRESS Sep 02 22:07:57 127 tristate "Cypress" if EMBEDDED Sep 02 22:07:57 128 depends on USB_HID Sep 02 22:09:58 here's something trippy to try THROUGH NOVATERM ONLY Sep 02 22:10:09 upstart stop LunaSysMgr Sep 02 22:10:16 hiddiag Sep 02 22:11:06 this is inside webos, obviously Sep 02 22:11:40 i then tried strace -p `pidof hidd` to see if i could make any sense of it, but gave up Sep 02 22:12:42 to get back to the ui, kill hiddiag, then upstart start LunaSysMgr Sep 02 22:22:16 Still can't find a device that uses the same cypress driver Sep 02 22:22:21 This is driving me mad Sep 02 22:23:27 Sep 02 22:23:52 sry, blank post Sep 02 22:24:20 It's all good Sep 02 22:27:52 darkredflame, there is none Sep 02 22:27:55 i searched high and low Sep 02 22:27:57 hehe man what a pain....reminds of trying to find drivers in hackintosh stuff lol....unless u build it from scratch(not exactly a walk in the park lol) or get it from source(cypress) this is going to be a bitch lol Sep 02 22:28:06 its simply a matter of load the firmware from userland Sep 02 22:28:07 100% Sep 02 22:28:50 what do u mean rhcp? Sep 02 22:29:03 Grim86, or trying to swift through dozens of versions of drivers for different versions of hackintoshes and hardware from yours for the right one Sep 02 22:29:13 Some drivers worked but didnt enable 3d capabilities Sep 02 22:29:17 *sigh* memories Sep 02 22:29:18 yup lol Sep 02 22:29:26 im a hackintosh dev Sep 02 22:29:27 i know :) Sep 02 22:29:49 I'd like to go back in it man, I tried it back in 10.5.x days, but 10.6 and 10.7 kinda scare me Sep 02 22:29:57 pita haha unless your someone who knows all about that stuff lol rhcp for ex since im pretty sure he said he use to be on the team lol Sep 02 22:30:30 bah.......slow typer while laying in bed lol Sep 02 22:31:05 Hmm Sep 02 22:31:33 I would try to talk to CM about the issue Sep 02 22:31:52 But I already know that their touchscreen claim is fake Sep 02 22:31:55 So no help from them Sep 02 22:32:48 sigh why must they spread lies? sounds stupid to me lol Sep 02 22:32:50 rhcp, Sep 02 22:32:50 My dream is that all groups teamup on this problem Sep 02 22:32:54 but it's never gonna happen Sep 02 22:33:01 nope lol Sep 02 22:33:27 it's like hoping that all world governments give up their power to citizens and remove all types of currency from the world, à la star trek Sep 02 22:34:11 farchord: and we get warp engines <3 Sep 02 22:34:20 suuuure lol Sep 02 22:35:17 I think one reason I like my tp so much is it reminds me of the pads from Stargate Atlantis and Star Trek series Sep 02 22:36:38 God I wish someone'd make a LCARS shell for the TP.... I'd totally nerdcum Sep 02 22:37:15 found something from the enac developer, a mailing list entry about thecypress impelmentation in his drivers http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1324680 Sep 02 22:38:52 i hoppe i get my tp tomorrow, then i will try his drivers on my tp with ubuntu. good night. Sep 02 22:41:21 What is userland? Sep 02 22:45:40 like disneyland Sep 02 22:47:25 Yay Sep 02 22:53:37 anyone know what is the actual dev for touchscreen in webos Sep 02 23:05:55 whats going on guys? Sep 02 23:06:49 Not much Sep 02 23:07:06 i love my new touchpad Sep 02 23:07:25 believe it or not though ive never used android. how does that OS compare to webOS? Sep 02 23:07:25 Nice Sep 02 23:07:40 Different Sep 02 23:07:42 Gnar: very different Sep 02 23:08:05 superior? Sep 02 23:08:19 In some ways Sep 02 23:08:26 what is better: mercedes or bmw? Sep 02 23:08:36 ah so they're both good Sep 02 23:08:36 Good analogy Sep 02 23:08:39 personal preference Sep 02 23:08:52 well imo apps or no apps Sep 02 23:08:57 heh Sep 02 23:09:05 depends on waht you use it for Sep 02 23:09:09 what do you guys use your touchpads for? Sep 02 23:09:11 i use mine for basic picture and video viewing Sep 02 23:09:17 and excel work (for when i go on set) Sep 02 23:09:21 it does all that perfectly Sep 02 23:09:24 so far no decent term or rdp client for webos Sep 02 23:09:29 well... not perfectly. but pretty well Sep 02 23:09:30 i use it for reading comic books and we surfing Sep 02 23:09:34 im trying to find new uses for it though Sep 02 23:09:36 i mean apps is a ++ for android and a -- for webos. but the rest is how you prefer thinks Sep 02 23:09:39 *things Sep 02 23:09:43 the stock picture app still sucks balls at file organization Sep 02 23:10:15 can;t wait for android and zeam Sep 02 23:10:21 will be so much better Sep 02 23:10:22 zeam? Sep 02 23:10:27 launcher Sep 02 23:10:38 web surfing, irc, tv-timetable,... Sep 02 23:10:40 oh. never heard of it Sep 02 23:11:01 is it a tablet specific launcher? Sep 02 23:11:09 http://zeam.org/ Sep 02 23:11:10 or is it just another up and coming launcher? Sep 02 23:11:15 I use it on my evo Sep 02 23:11:36 with kush deck rom == awesome Sep 02 23:11:41 cool Sep 02 23:12:26 hey i just dithced my cable tv and landline service Sep 02 23:12:33 do you guys use internet for tv and phone? Sep 02 23:13:14 i like my cable :P Sep 02 23:13:32 i did too Sep 02 23:13:36 but i like my new bill better Sep 02 23:14:05 anyone mess with hiddiag? Sep 02 23:14:21 can't get past the first screen Sep 02 23:14:40 meh,, i like being able to surf through channels since it keeps me up to date with what's new and what's News Sep 02 23:24:22 just wondering.... Did they get the touch screen working? Sep 02 23:24:40 no Sep 02 23:25:34 I'm sure you devs will get it Sep 02 23:25:38 have you ever thought about checking the link that pops up when you enter the channel? Sep 02 23:26:32 check it all the time. Was just wondering.... As in maybe not updated yet Sep 02 23:26:55 they'll update it as soon as they get it to work. it's a prettyd arn big thing Sep 02 23:27:20 k Sep 02 23:27:58 honestly my current status is watching squidbillies Sep 02 23:28:02 I'm taking a break Sep 02 23:28:20 squidbillies?? Sep 02 23:28:26 go watch archer please Sep 02 23:28:39 or even family guy Sep 02 23:29:15 Archer Texas Ranger? Sep 02 23:29:19 •darkredflame_• watch this then the touchscreen drivers will be ready http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI-kpVh6e1U&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_920793 Sep 02 23:29:34 http://goo.gl/sNb19 Sep 02 23:29:44 you cant stop watching it, if you do you have to start over from the beginning Sep 02 23:29:51 no no Sep 02 23:30:01 let me find an example link Sep 02 23:30:48 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjay_8dfgW0 Sep 02 23:31:07 mputtr: http://goo.gl/sNb19 Sep 02 23:31:31 mputtr: The funny thing is I was just watching archer Sep 02 23:31:37 Will return in 9:58:56 Sep 02 23:31:39 ahahaha Sep 02 23:31:39 Oh god Sep 02 23:31:40 my eyes Sep 02 23:31:49 roflmao Sep 02 23:33:29 I could have been real mean and made him watch this for 10 hours http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVdrtLcRs&feature=related Sep 02 23:33:59 remember to cup his perky breast Sep 02 23:34:01 roflmao Sep 02 23:37:48 You guys watch game of thrones? Sep 02 23:37:53 nope Sep 02 23:38:07 its really good Sep 02 23:38:09 got hbo for it, still havent watched Sep 02 23:38:16 i just watch this channel for updates tot he touchscreen Sep 02 23:44:34 hm Sep 02 23:44:38 anyone order from costcentral here? Sep 02 23:44:50 i ordered like 2 years ago Sep 02 23:44:53 er Sep 02 23:44:55 weeks. fail Sep 02 23:45:00 no shipping notice yet Sep 02 23:46:02 ownt Sep 02 23:46:06 you probably wont get one Sep 02 23:46:33 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?4378-Possible-MXT1386-Touchscreen-drivers-source-from-the-Acer-Iconia-A500-source Sep 02 23:46:35 Sigh... Sep 02 23:46:59 nice Sep 02 23:47:04 the touchscreen is the biggest hurdle huh? Sep 02 23:47:08 Yeha Sep 02 23:47:11 But this wont work Sep 02 23:47:15 Not the right driver Sep 02 23:48:42 I'm losing hope Sep 02 23:49:01 really? Sep 02 23:49:01 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 02 23:49:06 is there a chance a port will never work? Sep 02 23:49:40 A port will eventually come Sep 02 23:49:51 Even if we have to write the driver from scratch' Sep 02 23:49:57 haha Sep 02 23:50:05 Really? Sep 02 23:50:23 theres no way to look at the driver thats on there now and just convert it to android? Sep 02 23:50:36 lol Sep 02 23:50:44 what? Sep 02 23:50:46 convert.exe works ?? Sep 02 23:50:50 lol Sep 02 23:50:51 lool Sep 02 23:50:58 I'm Sep 02 23:51:29 scroll to top Sep 02 23:53:04 Holy shit that might work Sep 02 23:53:27 XD Sep 02 23:53:27 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 19 minutes 25 seconds Sep 02 23:54:00 Let me just 'convert.exe input=webOS output=Android inputFile=touchscreen.bin outputFile=touchscreenandroid.bin' Sep 02 23:54:13 Converting... Sep 02 23:54:16 ... Sep 02 23:54:18 ... Sep 02 23:54:19 ... Sep 02 23:54:21 ... Sep 02 23:54:22 ... Sep 02 23:54:26 HOLY SHIT IT WORKED. Sep 02 23:54:53 haha Sep 02 23:55:03 make sure to credit Gnar Sep 02 23:55:17 Will do! Sep 02 23:55:27 hey you guys can make people feel stupid AFTER you get the port working, not before Sep 02 23:55:28 k thx Sep 02 23:55:39 until then stfu Sep 02 23:55:48 aren't exe's windows programs Sep 02 23:55:53 doesn't seem legit Sep 02 23:56:12 ^ this Sep 02 23:56:24 Wine ftl Sep 02 23:57:00 i'm contemplating putting my touchpad on the ebays Sep 02 23:57:31 Gnar, the channel's topic specifically states that the webos driver cant be converted Sep 02 23:57:48 maybe providing something that actually helps gnar. It's about as helpful as saying hey, maybe you can just make webos turn into android by changing the word from webos to android!!!!! Sep 02 23:58:21 now now Sep 02 23:58:27 no agruing Sep 02 23:58:28 Why can't the driver from the dump work? Sep 02 23:58:42 Made for a different kernel Sep 02 23:59:27 darkredflame, have you tried hiddiag to see if the touchscreen is actually working when in android Sep 02 23:59:52 Ok guys Sep 03 00:00:02 As far as updates go for the touchpad's touchscreen, Sep 03 00:00:11 We appreciate all your tips pointing to GIT repos and stuff Sep 03 00:00:25 But we got our best devs collaborating with a Cypress contact on fixing this problem Sep 03 00:00:35 So most of the stuff you are point is, well, moot. Sep 03 00:01:00 Trust me, they are working on the problem. And they aren't going to post more status updates until this problem is fixed, or progressing. Sep 03 00:01:04 Oh, and Sep 03 00:01:07 If you want updates, Sep 03 00:01:16 you might as well follow rhcp on twitter Sep 03 00:01:36 http://twitter.com/rhcp011235 Sep 03 00:01:47 That is your best bet. Sep 03 00:02:02 Removing +m now, just thought I'd trim down the useless chatter. Sep 03 00:02:12 <`josh> wrong twitter address Sep 03 00:02:23 farchord, isn't it all useless chatter though? Sep 03 00:02:23 farchord: I picked the perfect time to check in here. Thanks for the heads up. And that twitter address worked for me. Sep 03 00:02:29 <`josh> weird, it didn't work for me Sep 03 00:02:30 <`josh> grr Sep 03 00:02:31 No actually that is the right twitter. Sep 03 00:02:48 <`josh> just gives me a "sorry, that page doesn't exist" Sep 03 00:03:09 josh: Try logging into Twitter first, I dunno. Sep 03 00:03:29 <`josh> i'm logged in. no big deal. i'm now getting a "Loading seems to be taking a while. Sep 03 00:03:29 <`josh> Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information. Sep 03 00:03:29 <`josh> " Sep 03 00:03:33 <`josh> so twitter might just be messed up Sep 03 00:03:42 <`josh> will try later, thanks though :) Sep 03 00:03:42 No surprise. Wait for failwhale. Sep 03 00:04:18 I dunno, all this touchscreen stuff keeps making things take forever, I might just have to get used to WebOS. ;) (Kidding!) Sep 03 00:04:41 TellarHK, and why shouldn't you? WebOS is amazing.... Sep 03 00:04:43 <`josh> i really like webos, i just like android even more Sep 03 00:04:58 farchord: I wouldn't go that far, but it's a hell of a lot better than I expected. Sep 03 00:05:04 I think I might sell mine, get another toshiba thrive Sep 03 00:05:12 I prefer webos.... But the lack of apps just kills it Sep 03 00:05:16 farchord: I wish it were a little more 'stable' though. Rotation seems to be really glitchy. Sep 03 00:05:27 works fine here Sep 03 00:05:28 And it likes to lock up on occasions. Or Music just stops working until a reboot. Sep 03 00:05:29 I do as well farchord, I think its really smooth Sep 03 00:05:47 is anyone looking to sell 2 16 or 32 gb touchpads? looking to buy a couple for my brothers Sep 03 00:06:50 koning, how much would you be willing to pay for a 16? Sep 03 00:06:52 i got one i can sell you for $250 + shipping Sep 03 00:06:56 its the 16 gb Sep 03 00:07:04 $120 plus shipping Sep 03 00:07:05 <.< Sep 03 00:07:08 does Openssh server work in Ubuntu on toucpad? Sep 03 00:07:11 lol $120 Sep 03 00:07:16 they go for 250 on ebay Sep 03 00:07:18 ah ok... was just curious koning Sep 03 00:07:19 It's strange, when I'm using my Touchpad sometimes it just... flakes out a bit, holding it in a way that means it should be in portrait but it keeps freaking out and switching on me. Sep 03 00:07:23 dude, 120$ is a 20% profit over a used piece of electronics Sep 03 00:07:24 not paying you an outrageous price because you bought extras Sep 03 00:07:39 ok ill just sell it on ebay Sep 03 00:07:40 from the price of cost Sep 03 00:07:40 :) Sep 03 00:07:42 ok Sep 03 00:07:45 have at it. Sep 03 00:07:48 <[koss]> 120 plus shipping is less that the datavis ebay auction Sep 03 00:07:55 ?? Sep 03 00:07:57 it's the same Sep 03 00:07:59 anyone knows? Sep 03 00:08:01 I could see paying $175, _maybe_. Sep 03 00:08:02 and i bougth 2 from datavis Sep 03 00:08:05 im curious as to what kind of profit the stores are getting.. like best buy. they have to get a percentage of that 100/150 right? Sep 03 00:08:06 but they couldn't fill the order Sep 03 00:08:21 But $200+? Screw that. Especially if Amazon is launching an Android tablet in a month or two. Sep 03 00:08:26 For $250. Sep 03 00:08:28 anybody knows? Sep 03 00:08:31 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8735597/Apple-employee-leaves-prototype-of-new-iPhone-in-bar.html Sep 03 00:08:47 <[koss]> i'll tell ya what -- ill sell ya 2 32's for $500 shipped total. final offer Sep 03 00:08:53 <[koss]> u aint ganna beat it Sep 03 00:09:08 have you seen what amazon's tablet specs are? Sep 03 00:09:10 At least koss' pricing isn't molestation. Sep 03 00:09:11 i doubt you would want it Sep 03 00:09:12 koning, just wait.. hp is going to make more Sep 03 00:09:13 t sell it on ebay Sep 03 00:09:13 [17:04] <@farchord> from the price of cost Sep 03 00:09:13 [17:04] :) Sep 03 00:09:17 oops.. sorry Sep 03 00:09:34 mputtr: Yeah, haven't seen. But I suspect it'll at least run decently enough. Sep 03 00:09:34 <[koss]> hp will make a couple more that will sell out before u can blink Sep 03 00:09:36 http://gizmodo.com/5837061/this-is-amazons-kindle-tablet Sep 03 00:09:42 read this and weep Sep 03 00:09:43 to tell you the truth, if the tablet woulda been as little as 75$ more expensive, I woulda passed onit Sep 03 00:09:45 sorry Sep 03 00:09:49 I really didnt need a tablet Sep 03 00:09:58 but at 100$, you'd be freakin' stupid to pass on it Sep 03 00:10:07 if I dont use it, it'll make a kickass christmas gift Sep 03 00:10:25 i have a 2nd touchpad with me right now... mom is first in line for it... Sep 03 00:10:26 mputtr: Wow, that's chintzier than I expected. Sep 03 00:10:38 [koss], stores should get some more too.. brick and mortar stores give a better chance of actually getting one Sep 03 00:10:44 and im probably going to put android on it. if she can't use it (as in she think it's too complciated) then it goes to my gf Sep 03 00:10:49 told you TellarHK Sep 03 00:10:52 what's with the big ugly ass border? Sep 03 00:10:54 if they dont sell out instantly online, the servers will be down Sep 03 00:10:57 it aint worth it.. not with what they're selling Sep 03 00:11:10 mputtr: It _is_ $250 supposedly. Sep 03 00:11:18 2 finger support (no biggie), single core. 6gb, no camera Sep 03 00:11:20 mputtr: So that might still work well as a mom-tablet. Sep 03 00:11:25 Well if it's ONLY to read books, its not bad Sep 03 00:11:27 and.. running a sub 2.2 version of android Sep 03 00:11:37 if you want to read books, get the kindle Sep 03 00:11:45 mputter: Or a Nook. :) Sep 03 00:11:47 -e Sep 03 00:11:48 it lasts a month and has 2gbs of space Sep 03 00:11:53 or install the kindle reader on your TP XD Sep 03 00:11:55 the e-ink screen though Sep 03 00:12:01 kindle of you want to read in the bright Sep 03 00:12:06 well, i have the kinle for the e-ink screen Sep 03 00:12:09 not for anything else Sep 03 00:12:11 I have the original Nook, it's nicer than the original Kindle. Sep 03 00:12:14 and it's freakin light Sep 03 00:12:19 the original nook is cool Sep 03 00:12:26 but i have the kindle 2 which is better imo Sep 03 00:12:29 So's the color, it's just not e-ink. Sep 03 00:12:36 • It's built on a forked version of Android (apparently older than 2.2), but there are no visible Google apps of any kind—you'll be able to get Android apps through Amazon's appstore Sep 03 00:12:38 WTF!?!? Sep 03 00:12:41 Older than 2.2!? Sep 03 00:12:48 farchord: Forked though, so anything goes. Sep 03 00:12:50 exactly. that's why i could care less about the amazon tablet Sep 03 00:12:53 <.< Sep 03 00:13:02 but forked from sub 2.2 Sep 03 00:13:04 I suspect it'll sell like crazy, though. Sep 03 00:13:10 that's nothing to be proud of i think Sep 03 00:13:20 Because most people don't care what -version- of Android it is. Just like all those cheap, crappy phones that sold. Sep 03 00:13:20 i think it's going to sell as well as the 3DS when it was 250bucks Sep 03 00:13:28 not at 250bucks though Sep 03 00:13:33 unless they subsidize it somehow Sep 03 00:13:39 No, there'll actually be things you can -do- with the Kindletab. :D Sep 03 00:13:57 i dont know Sep 03 00:14:03 i enjoyed ghost recon and LoZ Sep 03 00:14:13 The 3DS was just a gimmick. Sep 03 00:14:20 i disagree Sep 03 00:14:24 the 3D is a gimmick Sep 03 00:14:27 the rest is an upgrade Sep 03 00:14:32 yup lol Sep 03 00:14:41 Was it an upgrade that anyone really needed though? Sep 03 00:14:46 i would say yes Sep 03 00:14:49 It's not like the DSi was any slouch for what it did. Sep 03 00:15:00 if you want more "action" on screen you would want more power Sep 03 00:15:07 True. Sep 03 00:15:15 don't get me wrong, the DSi did great, but if they can upgrade the hardware so it does more, why not? Sep 03 00:15:29 we're talking several different applications running int he background of an intense game Sep 03 00:15:42 They should have focused a little more on the upgrades, less on the 3D. Sep 03 00:15:53 think of playing starfox then picking up a streetpass notification at the same time while running the OS underneath Sep 03 00:15:55 And sales kinda represented that. Sep 03 00:16:00 true. Sep 03 00:16:08 i think the 3DS screwed up thanks to the lack of good games Sep 03 00:16:13 Yeah. Sep 03 00:16:14 that should be released at launch Sep 03 00:16:23 if they released their big boys at launch.. it would rock Sep 03 00:16:36 My partner was going to get a 3DS, but he keeps looking at the launch titles and saying "Nope, still crap." Sep 03 00:16:40 but they released crappy games and 1 decent game that is for fighting gamers Sep 03 00:16:55 I'm a fan of turn based strategy Sep 03 00:16:59 So he just sticks with the DS Lite and a crack card. :) Sep 03 00:17:01 so I really honestly enjoyed Ghost Recon Sep 03 00:17:09 i got AceKard2i Sep 03 00:17:13 and it works with the 3DS Sep 03 00:17:22 Not sure what he's got. It'll work with the 3DS though supposedly. Sep 03 00:17:37 I had a PSP. Sep 03 00:17:47 Very nice little thing, but I just didn't play much. Sep 03 00:17:48 psp sucked tbh Sep 03 00:17:59 not the hardware Sep 03 00:18:02 but the actual line up. Sep 03 00:18:09 The hardware was good, the lineup was crap unless you liked sports. Sep 03 00:18:11 the 3DS has the same problem the psp has Sep 03 00:18:28 no good games and they good stuff either are far far apart or have been delayed repeatedly Sep 03 00:18:44 There's a reason the iPhone/iOS is either at #1 in mobile gaming now, or a close #2. Sep 03 00:18:52 free games Sep 03 00:19:34 And a wide variety. Sep 03 00:19:53 yeah Sep 03 00:20:00 but after a while they seem to.. blend into each other Sep 03 00:20:01 While Sony should have been focusing on getting PSP development kicked over more, and bringing the price down, they did stupid crap like the PSP Go. Sep 03 00:20:08 hahahahahah Sep 03 00:20:11 that was a cute attempt Sep 03 00:20:20 probably costed sony many millions of dollars Sep 03 00:20:24 "Here, costs more, less features!" Sep 03 00:20:32 "... the fsck, Sony?" Sep 03 00:21:17 I seriously think the Touchpad debacle is going to teach a lot of companies a lot of valuable lessons about releasing against Apple. Sep 03 00:21:40 hahaha Sep 03 00:21:49 more like teach a lesson on not to pull a HP Sep 03 00:21:51 XD Sep 03 00:22:03 HP had a good product, it was just overpriced versus the competition that already had a number of advantages. Even on paper. Sep 03 00:23:34 true Sep 03 00:23:37 Releasing at the same price as the 18-month on market iPad line, with few apps, an OS that nobody really -respected- (though people do like it, for good reason) and with weaker hardware? Bzzzt. That's a recipe for fail. Sep 03 00:23:52 yea seriously the tp was like what 600 ight lol ipad2 is 499 haha Sep 03 00:24:03 No, it was $499 at first. Sep 03 00:24:05 Same price. Sep 03 00:24:14 ahh k Sep 03 00:24:23 But to beat the iPad in consumers' eyes, it should have launched at $300. Which would have been a loss. Sep 03 00:24:43 yeah Sep 03 00:24:52 it wsa 499 for the 16gb version Sep 03 00:24:55 that alone was too expensive Sep 03 00:25:21 right on par with other tablets Sep 03 00:25:24 just a less popular OS Sep 03 00:25:32 it wasn't pricing, it was user base. Sep 03 00:25:46 yea they shouldve charged at the most for their 16 350 Sep 03 00:25:47 if i have to make money as a dev, i'm making android/ios apps, not webos. Sep 03 00:26:00 they should've just gone android imo Sep 03 00:26:01 Well, the user base -comes- from pricing. Sep 03 00:26:02 yup Sep 03 00:26:03 save us all the trouble Sep 03 00:26:04 because there are a LOT more users on android and ios. Sep 03 00:26:04 hahahahahaa Sep 03 00:26:18 working on touchdroid Sep 03 00:26:22 well, working on fancy videos. Sep 03 00:26:25 lol Sep 03 00:26:27 and intros to said videos Sep 03 00:26:53 glacious a combination of the two Sep 03 00:27:02 both user base and price Sep 03 00:27:13 i still don't see price being the issue Sep 03 00:27:18 'every' other tablet is prices similar Sep 03 00:27:21 you wont entice very many new users with a 500-600 price Sep 03 00:27:22 is there a way to run the 2.2.1 dump on a webos tp? Sep 03 00:27:23 for similar specs Sep 03 00:28:01 If it wasn't for the price we all wouldn't be here Sep 03 00:28:04 you need a clear advantage when you're trying to gain market penetration Sep 03 00:28:08 if i can get anything, i'd love to get the transformer tablet Sep 03 00:28:09 either it be price Sep 03 00:28:10 features Sep 03 00:28:11 feels the best Sep 03 00:28:12 or os Sep 03 00:28:13 if they dropped each version $100, and had it come with Android, it would be a top seller. Sep 03 00:28:37 WebOS honestly has potential. Sep 03 00:28:47 it did Sep 03 00:28:48 Wait how does the touchpad have weaker hardware than the ipad? Sep 03 00:28:50 but it entered a saturated market, with the least popular tablet OS, with similar pricing to all other tablets Sep 03 00:28:54 they didn't have a leg to stand on. Sep 03 00:28:54 but not enough shebang to go with it Sep 03 00:28:55 I think if they'd waited another six months or so to release, polished some of the bugs, WebOS could be a serious contender. Sep 03 00:29:10 Also, to build up more launch apps. They needed a developer pricing program. Sep 03 00:29:17 Sell a hundred thousand tablets at cost. Sep 03 00:29:21 WebOS would never be a contender. They released it too late. Sep 03 00:29:24 No apps. Sep 03 00:29:24 yes, WebOS == not popular. I didn't say not good... :) it's actually a fantastic tablet OS Sep 03 00:29:29 No apps = fail. Sep 03 00:29:43 koning double edged sword Sep 03 00:29:46 No, WebOS has a chance to be at -least- a solid third. Sep 03 00:29:53 apps bring in users and users bring in apps Sep 03 00:29:56 it's an ok os Sep 03 00:29:57 But it's probably a market with -barely- enough room for three contenders. Sep 03 00:30:02 Samsung is going to buy it and make it a serious 3rd. Sep 03 00:30:06 i think it needs to be able to be configured more Sep 03 00:30:11 no it wont Sep 03 00:30:20 samsung already states that it will not do anythign with webos Sep 03 00:30:21 koning, their CEO debunked that today Sep 03 00:30:27 and that they wont even make an attempt at that Sep 03 00:30:30 Samsung already apparently said hell no. Sep 03 00:30:31 And when was that statement made. Sep 03 00:30:32 apps came before the users Sep 03 00:30:45 And that's not a surprise to me at -all-. Korean companies want to be in more control. Sep 03 00:30:52 ios and android both launched with a ton of apps. both got in early (years ago) Sep 03 00:31:07 THEN HP came in... years later, with a 3rd OS. market was already penetrated, and dirty. Sep 03 00:31:22 And fragmented badly because of the way Android on tablets has been handled. Sep 03 00:31:23 IE: Badly. Sep 03 00:31:47 * glacious waits for Minecraft for TP Sep 03 00:31:48 today Sep 03 00:32:21 Technically shouldnt be hard, it's java..... but minecraft gobs an INSANE amount of ram Sep 03 00:32:31 yeah Sep 03 00:32:37 java blows for games Sep 03 00:32:42 yeah i have a few coworkers that host minecraft servers on their employee colos Sep 03 00:32:58 i have a colo in my closet Sep 03 00:33:10 koning Sep 03 00:33:11 http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/02/samsung-ceo-refuses-to-never-say-never-to-webos/ Sep 03 00:33:30 I nee to build a colo for the site, just my hardware supplies are drastically low right now Sep 03 00:33:52 The problem with WebOS is even after the fire sell, no one is interested in making apps for it. Successful app developers have made their apps compatible with iOS, Android, and Blackberry OS. Sep 03 00:34:00 I need to locate some DDR2/DDR then ill have a complete box ready Sep 03 00:34:00 No one wants to deal with WebOS, they think it's done. Sep 03 00:34:10 Everyone is worried about Android porting over, and that's agbout it. Sep 03 00:34:22 aww wife dont want the touchpad i bought her.. :/ Sep 03 00:34:26 dont forget the fact that microsoft has been poaching webos devs Sep 03 00:34:30 gimme! Sep 03 00:34:36 i'd buy the extra one off you ;) Sep 03 00:34:54 oh god I totally forgot about Microsoft Sep 03 00:34:58 that or just tell her that since she dun want it,you'll toss it in the trashcan Sep 03 00:35:01 she'll say yes in a hurry Sep 03 00:35:07 who is everyone Sep 03 00:35:14 i told her to use it as a photo frame Sep 03 00:35:17 unless she thinks you're made out of money or she is very spiteful Sep 03 00:35:23 she told me it was a supid idea ;/ Sep 03 00:35:31 *stupid Sep 03 00:35:34 tell her that her opinion is stupid ;) Sep 03 00:35:37 just kidding Sep 03 00:35:48 that might land you on the couch for the next week Sep 03 00:35:58 lol ya Sep 03 00:36:01 shes a woman Sep 03 00:36:05 get her in the kitchen making sammiches Sep 03 00:36:11 tell her it's a portable photo frame to show off all the cool stuff she got when she goes shopping Sep 03 00:36:36 she likes her NookColor better so no way of really selling the touchpad to her lol Sep 03 00:36:40 or you can even tell her she can use it as a reference device when she wants a particular item (such as a color or something) Sep 03 00:36:45 oh Sep 03 00:36:48 she got the nook... Sep 03 00:36:54 well shit... y didn't you mentioned it at first Sep 03 00:36:59 yes nook color is better atm i don't blame her Sep 03 00:37:05 yep heh Sep 03 00:37:16 and she likes it as it fits in her purse Sep 03 00:37:18 then just use it as a home device Sep 03 00:37:27 maybe a recipe book when you're in the kitchen Sep 03 00:37:37 or a web browser by the bed Sep 03 00:37:42 that is what i said then she said she likes her thunderbolt for that Sep 03 00:37:53 porn viewer you mean Sep 03 00:37:58 and nook is running CM7 so have all teh crap she wants on it Sep 03 00:38:04 a porno portal for after dark hours Sep 03 00:38:05 is the android they have on nook color really fast b00sted? Sep 03 00:38:07 if say, you're hunting for something online and but you want to stay in bed Sep 03 00:38:15 i heard it was meant for phones Sep 03 00:38:20 nook runs really nice Sep 03 00:38:20 4" screen < 9.7" screen imo Sep 03 00:38:33 nook color is 7 inches right? Sep 03 00:38:37 it will prolly fly on the touchpad then Sep 03 00:38:38 it is what I had before I got my galaxy tab Sep 03 00:38:39 but then again a woman's eye is built for scrutiny Sep 03 00:40:08 we got to much random shit anyways Sep 03 00:40:22 3 touchpads, 2 nookcolors and a galaxy tab atm Sep 03 00:40:49 jeez Sep 03 00:40:52 tablet freak Sep 03 00:41:03 sell me a touchpad so i can give it to my gf imo XD Sep 03 00:41:10 lol Sep 03 00:41:21 how many people are in your house anyways? Sep 03 00:41:26 3? Sep 03 00:41:29 going to try to pawn it off local first so I dont have to ship it anywhere Sep 03 00:41:34 lol Sep 03 00:41:38 3 if u count my 10 month old son Sep 03 00:41:48 put it at a lowball price and people will clamor for it Sep 03 00:42:02 or just toss it on ebay... if it's still sealed you can get from 220 to 275 Sep 03 00:42:14 I paid 150 for the 16gb model so it prob is not going to fly off anyway... Sep 03 00:42:15 that's what... 2-3 tablets per person Sep 03 00:42:46 it will Sep 03 00:42:46 maybe i'll make the yearly Linux switch this month Sep 03 00:42:50 Ubuntu 11 looks promising Sep 03 00:43:00 check ebay's pricing Sep 03 00:43:21 sheeet i should toss it on the bay lol Sep 03 00:43:28 pay for all 3 of mine with selling 1 Sep 03 00:43:29 do it Sep 03 00:43:31 more profit Sep 03 00:43:36 unity blows hard Sep 03 00:43:37 nah it wont pay for all 3 Sep 03 00:43:44 just pay for 1.5 Sep 03 00:43:52 you can get around 150 extra i think Sep 03 00:43:59 ya still will be nice ;) Sep 03 00:44:04 thanks for the tip Sep 03 00:44:15 np Sep 03 00:44:18 got to go kid the kid ready for bed.. bbl ;) Sep 03 00:44:26 as much as i would love to get my hands on it Sep 03 00:44:31 :P Sep 03 00:44:32 :P Sep 03 00:45:15 Haha! Sep 03 00:46:06 ? Sep 03 00:55:35 .. Sep 03 01:21:53 b00sted|afk: i love my nook color Sep 03 01:22:05 i use it as a bathroom tablet :p Sep 03 01:22:40 The nook was an absolutely epic tablet when it first got CM7. Still pretty good since there's little that can directly compete with it Sep 03 01:23:08 Jotokun: word. Sep 03 01:23:10 Just needs ICS Sep 03 01:23:29 I think they're up to what.. nightly build 180? i installed build 17... soo buggy. heh Sep 03 01:23:57 Dont konw... I cant get market to work in the latest nightlies so I stick with 7.1 RC1 Sep 03 01:24:38 For an RC its quite stable Sep 03 01:25:23 just as long as the video and news/dolphin works i'm happy Sep 03 01:25:57 Same, albeit subbing Dolphin for Opera. Sep 03 01:26:27 is opera any better? i used it and it sucked Sep 03 01:26:46 It has some compatibility issues, but its far smoother than Dolphin Sep 03 01:26:53 in terms of pinch zooming and scrolling Sep 03 01:27:32 congratz on the dual boot Sep 03 01:27:46 Well I use internet explorer Sep 03 01:27:53 On my HTC Mogul Sep 03 01:27:54 So yeah Sep 03 01:28:04 gtross Sep 03 01:28:16 *points* shame! Sep 03 01:28:36 i had an htc 6700 and a 6800 Sep 03 01:28:54 installing google maps on the 6700 would randomly mess up and would require a hard reset Sep 03 01:28:57 <[koss]> ugh anyone know if u can disable zoom in the WebOS browser? Sep 03 01:29:11 learning java ftw Sep 03 01:29:23 hting was so shitty when i first got it it didnt have a device lock function Sep 03 01:29:43 and it had a physical 'pick up the phone' button, which also woke the phone up. Sep 03 01:29:59 pressing that twice resulted in calling the last person you spoke with Sep 03 01:30:20 wow... that sounds terrible. Lots of pocket dials? Sep 03 01:30:21 i know Sep 03 01:30:25 i hate it Sep 03 01:30:37 But verizon doesnt require a data plan for it Sep 03 01:30:39 So yeah Sep 03 01:30:42 Jotokun: : you know it Sep 03 01:30:51 Ah. Thats a good reason to keep it Sep 03 01:30:57 a few where i was having a private conversation.. then my pants would say "hello?" Sep 03 01:30:58 heh Sep 03 01:31:06 well, 3rd party firmware fixed it Sep 03 01:31:15 6 months later verizion released an update that added that feature Sep 03 01:31:17 For a while, I had a samsung Blackjack II. Its texting was absolute crap Sep 03 01:31:28 But I stuck with it because I got it before AT&T enforced their data plan requirement Sep 03 01:43:50 rhcp, that RT was a bit misleading lol Sep 03 02:01:24 Hello ppl, any word yet from the touchscreen manufacturer? Sep 03 02:01:36 No Sep 03 02:01:40 boo Sep 03 02:01:43 And we aren't expecting any either Sep 03 02:01:49 oh Sep 03 02:02:52 yeah sorry Sep 03 02:03:52 its cool, that would of just made somehing easy, we should know better than that by now. :) Sep 03 02:06:10 you're telling us Sep 03 02:06:26 would have Sep 03 02:06:43 yay dead day at work :D Sep 03 02:06:49 I'm writing a shit ton of essays right now Sep 03 02:07:01 <-- masters program dun have essays to write Sep 03 02:07:02 So I can hopefully get scholorships for college Sep 03 02:07:05 just films to make :) Sep 03 02:07:13 O_O Sep 03 02:08:00 The sad thing is I have a BSU college ID, and it says student on it Sep 03 02:08:05 But I'm still not enrolled in BSU Sep 03 02:08:47 :P Sep 03 02:09:32 Can't afford to go to college when you work at CenturyLink Sep 03 02:09:33 Haha Sep 03 02:10:13 oh. you're in the santa monica area? Sep 03 02:11:22 i talk to century link 30 times a day! Sep 03 02:11:29 No Sep 03 02:11:32 I'm in Boise Sep 03 02:11:46 i love getting techs from the boise office! Sep 03 02:11:52 and omaha... Sep 03 02:11:59 damn good job.. ice cream sandwich on touchpad Sep 03 02:12:06 Techs in the boise office are nice Sep 03 02:12:06 http://www.flickr.com/photos/18672950@N00/6076275238/ Sep 03 02:12:18 oh Sep 03 02:12:19 But a lot of us been disgruntled since the mergere Sep 03 02:12:29 CenturyLink doesn Sep 03 02:12:32 sadnklsnf Sep 03 02:12:40 doesn't treat us like Qwest used to Sep 03 02:12:49 you guys seemed happier Sep 03 02:13:09 but i guess we're all supposed to sound happy on the phone. Sep 03 02:13:09 Facade Sep 03 02:13:26 I don't even work for Tier I or II tech support Sep 03 02:13:33 My job title is all fucked up Sep 03 02:13:46 I'm a security analyist, but i'm a onfield tech Sep 03 02:13:56 i'm a jack of all trades, i cover tier 1, 3 and everything in between. Sep 03 02:14:07 But I still only get paid $10.50 a hour Sep 03 02:14:11 Because of my fucking age Sep 03 02:14:12 no joke. Sep 03 02:14:42 There are 25 year old Tier I techs getting paid $13-26 Sep 03 02:14:48 $13-15 Sep 03 02:15:00 find another job Sep 03 02:15:03 darkredflame_, join the club, I do tech support, but also, webmaster, coder, and maintainer Sep 03 02:15:13 yep Sep 03 02:15:21 roast_: Can't, boise is dead for jobs Sep 03 02:15:38 * farchord goes to play Assassin's creed 2 on Xbox. Sep 03 02:15:39 darkredflame_: do you have a good boss? Sep 03 02:15:42 :/ Sep 03 02:15:45 yeah didn't you hear? they're weren't any new jobs posted last month Sep 03 02:15:48 ask for a raise Sep 03 02:15:52 first time since the great depression or some shit. Sep 03 02:15:56 roast_: Boss is the same, he still back from the qwest days Sep 03 02:16:02 But the boss of the boss is new Sep 03 02:16:06 And he is a complete dick Sep 03 02:16:32 how old are you? Sep 03 02:16:33 He got transfer from the Denver office Sep 03 02:16:39 I'm only 18 Sep 03 02:17:02 Been working with qwest since 17 Sep 03 02:17:14 Got an internship, turned into a full fledge job Sep 03 02:17:29 10.5/hr blows Sep 03 02:17:31 Manager noticed I excelled in tier I and II tech support Sep 03 02:17:43 Promoted me to Security Analyist Sep 03 02:17:50 Then tacked on onfield tech Sep 03 02:18:05 so you're competent Sep 03 02:18:08 you need to be getting that resume up to date Sep 03 02:18:19 why not pay you for doing one job, when they can pay you for one job while you work 3 Sep 03 02:18:28 I've been 'promoted' quite a few times, if being promoted means working more and getting paid the same Sep 03 02:18:29 roast_: I suppose so Sep 03 02:18:40 farchord: Tell me about it Sep 03 02:18:56 i haven't had a raise in salary for 4 years Sep 03 02:19:11 I was SUPPOSED to get a raise this year Sep 03 02:19:28 but, i make more than $10.50/hr =/ Sep 03 02:19:29 But since the fucking merger, I doubt I will get a raise in the next 5 years Sep 03 02:19:40 your annoyances though in a different field sound eerily similar to mine Sep 03 02:19:41 at least the sites look pretty! Sep 03 02:19:48 not even cost of living? Sep 03 02:20:03 I think cost of living is $13.50 Sep 03 02:20:08 Or $15 Sep 03 02:20:18 i mean no 3% every year? Sep 03 02:21:01 darkredflame_: i think you can approace your manager and squeeze $1.50/hr at least Sep 03 02:21:29 approach Sep 03 02:21:36 Our sites are coded in ASP.... I've started redoing some of it in .NET, but.... the site is a HEAVILY hacked version of it's original..... version Sep 03 02:22:05 that is 14% Sep 03 02:22:20 roast_: My boss can't even get a raise that he deserves Sep 03 02:22:20 way more than any other job will give per year Sep 03 02:22:34 I think he gets paid $15 Sep 03 02:22:40 I make 9$ an hour <.< Sep 03 02:22:43 darkredflame_: wtf Sep 03 02:22:46 And once again it cause of the age thing Sep 03 02:22:53 My boss is only 20 Sep 03 02:23:04 give it a bit of time - salaries go up Sep 03 02:23:10 age plays a role in managements decisions Sep 03 02:23:13 you guys are making me worried...i thought teachers were underpaid Sep 03 02:23:31 dude FUCK the age and FUCK education.... I know shit most techs dont know.... Sep 03 02:23:38 Logan302: iono where these guys work, i haven't made under $14/hr since i was 17 Sep 03 02:23:40 Techs get paid a lot, if you work at the right company Sep 03 02:23:52 Tier II techs at comcast get paid $20 Sep 03 02:23:57 I could run e-circles around your run of the mill Windows tech Sep 03 02:24:43 everyone thinks that when they're 18. Sep 03 02:24:52 kid. Sep 03 02:24:56 i was 15 when i had my first tech job making $9.50/hr Sep 03 02:24:56 I'm 28 Sep 03 02:25:08 I'm 16, made close to 20 Sep 03 02:25:15 I'm 12, and what is this? Sep 03 02:25:26 I'm 4, where my mommy? Sep 03 02:25:27 doing a network installation with a friend who owns a comp. business Sep 03 02:26:06 oops farch, konversation colors so many nicks the same >_> Sep 03 02:27:00 I'm 12 Sep 03 02:27:01 what is this Sep 03 02:27:18 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 03 02:27:20 I'm not to pissed off at how much I get paid, as much as our city infrastructure Sep 03 02:27:37 Our DSLAMS are still running ADSL2+ Sep 03 02:27:50 Meanwhile fucking Denver has VDSL2 out of their ass Sep 03 02:28:17 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 15 minutes 58 seconds Sep 03 02:28:17 geez, you children make me feel old... Sep 03 02:28:20 well no I dont so much complain about how much I get paid.... I mean, for my life's monetary requirements I do okay. But I consider myself getting paid much less than I am worth Sep 03 02:28:32 I've been coding longer than you all have been alive :) Sep 03 02:28:47 how many years have you been coding? Sep 03 02:28:52 since 1967 Sep 03 02:28:55 darkredflame_, lol our city just got DOCSIS3.... Got 30/1 atm, next month they're upgrading us to 40/2 Sep 03 02:29:12 I am still on dialup Sep 03 02:29:28 AlanJayWeiner: what languages? Sep 03 02:29:32 farchord: I'm moving over there I'm on 20/896 Sep 03 02:29:41 actually, make that 1969 Sep 03 02:29:42 Paying $40, employee price Sep 03 02:29:57 not even 1mbps up!? wtf.... Sep 03 02:30:22 !topic Sep 03 02:30:24 started with FOCAL, an odd thing from DEC, then BASIC, then PDP-8 assembler Sep 03 02:30:47 nothing wrong with adsl2+ Sep 03 02:30:53 AlanJayWeiner: C, java? Sep 03 02:30:55 then 8080/Z-80 assembler, C, and random bits of lots of languages Sep 03 02:31:03 Addled sucks Sep 03 02:31:11 learning Java for Android development Sep 03 02:31:20 Actually Sep 03 02:31:30 AlanJayWeiner: I wanted to learn C over the summer, I'm 16 and want to do electrical engineering (micro controller development) Sep 03 02:31:36 farchord: What pisses me off is that our lines are oversubscribed Sep 03 02:31:38 Adsl sucks. Fibre optic DSL all the way Sep 03 02:31:41 this is what im sitting on right now http://www.speedtest.net/result/1463534179.png Sep 03 02:31:42 man I love the music in Assassin's Creed II Sep 03 02:31:43 spent the last 3 years doing VoIP development tools in a odd language called SDL Sep 03 02:31:58 I ended up taking comp sci (java) for the first year it's offered at my school - I just learned all of what we're covering in 3 hrs online haha Sep 03 02:32:01 And centurylink is debating on upgrading the infrastructure to ADSL2+M Sep 03 02:32:06 darkredflame_, ahhh.... I don't complain, I'm getting the full 30mbps even in the evenings Sep 03 02:32:11 FUCKING ADSL2+M Sep 03 02:32:16 sperman- C's not difficult Sep 03 02:32:20 i hadwhy go with annex m? Sep 03 02:32:31 The city needs a fucking VDSL2 infrastructure Sep 03 02:32:38 Not fucking ADSL2+M bullshit Sep 03 02:32:39 do residental customers need a higher upload? Sep 03 02:32:39 learn pointers very well - that's usually how people mess up wiht it Sep 03 02:32:43 i'm on vdsl2 Sep 03 02:32:48 Sorry, I'm straight Sep 03 02:32:58 i'm on wireless through my isp Sep 03 02:33:13 AlanJayWeiner: I had no basis and was starting out on the original C book, I was somewhat lost. This java book starts at the basics, and it makes much more sense. If I learn java now by myself, it's an easy A in school, and I can learn C at home Sep 03 02:33:26 I remember, when I was 15 I was coding small apps on Visual Basic 3.0 for Windows 3.11 on our 80386SX Sep 03 02:33:26 I'm on telegraph. Sep 03 02:34:00 sperman- that's interesting; I find Java more difficult because I think in C... :) by original C did you mean K&R ? Sep 03 02:34:17 I'm sitting on this http://www.speedtest.net/result/1463536308.png Sep 03 02:34:21 AlanJayWeiner: yup, rev 1, the original KR :) Sep 03 02:34:28 i have a lot of background in c++, but for some reason i cant get the hang of android Sep 03 02:34:30 farchord- my last 386 system cost over $6000 Sep 03 02:34:31 idk what it is Sep 03 02:34:35 don't like java Sep 03 02:34:39 lol Sep 03 02:34:45 Wtf you must pay a tonne. The uk phone lines aren't good enough for those speeds so we have to put up with the 200meg DSL connections that just came in. I'm on 30mb lol Sep 03 02:34:46 wow, that's almost exactly where i am darkredflame_ Sep 03 02:34:52 I'm learning it for school, it's an easy AP class if I can quickly learn it Sep 03 02:35:02 t4nk821: where you live?' Sep 03 02:35:04 sperman- I don't think that's the best book to learn C from Sep 03 02:35:09 gillette wyoming Sep 03 02:35:12 AlanJayWeiner: It isn't Sep 03 02:35:33 i meant speedwise Sep 03 02:35:44 sperman- I can't recommend anything offhand, but I'm sure there are better books at any bookstore - or even online Sep 03 02:35:58 oh lol Sep 03 02:36:02 lol AC2 is funny Sep 03 02:36:05 there are, undoubtedly. I just had that on hand. I dl'd some books as well, but got too lazy Sep 03 02:36:16 sperman- once you get the understanding of how computers work, learning a new language is usually fairly easy Sep 03 02:36:29 "You should find an outlet, it is very important in life" "I have plenty of outlets." "Aside from vaginas." Sep 03 02:36:46 AlanJayWeiner: yup. I just have to start somewhere Sep 03 02:37:03 sperman- at least the syntax; for Java, C++, etc learning the libraries is the hard part Sep 03 02:37:04 only women should have vagina outlets. Sep 03 02:37:12 Lol yeh Sep 03 02:37:19 Vagina man Sep 03 02:37:20 t4nk483- no, they have inputs Sep 03 02:37:30 AlanJayWeiner: I see, very different between C and java Sep 03 02:37:35 Then that's inlets Sep 03 02:37:39 yes, they're IO most of the time. Sep 03 02:37:46 MOST Sep 03 02:37:48 sperman- be careful with C; it can lead you to lots of bad coding practices Sep 03 02:37:53 why? Sep 03 02:38:10 too easy to code sloppy Sep 03 02:38:25 ahh Sep 03 02:38:32 sloppily Sep 03 02:38:35 Java and C++ help to shield you from a lot of mistakes Sep 03 02:38:51 t4nk483- ok... "write sloppy code" ... :) Sep 03 02:38:58 Compiling a new kernel Sep 03 02:39:14 I hear the class structure of apps on objective c and Java can end up very similar when making cross platform apps. Sep 03 02:39:45 UPDATE, PIVOT Sep 03 02:39:46 dunno Sep 03 02:39:52 Keep my current 20 Mbps - - Extreme Upload speed 896 Kbps 12 Mbps - Advanced 7 Mbps - Essential 1.5 Mbps - Ultimate Start Up Sep 03 02:39:54 lol' Sep 03 02:40:37 i heard something was going on about career advise Sep 03 02:41:01 jon, did you ever unbricked your tp? or did you send it in to hp? Sep 03 02:41:13 sperman- one other thing to definitely learn: what the compiler does! look at the compiled code Sep 03 02:41:43 I've seen some bloody awful code in C++ -- *looks* nice, but inefficient as hell Sep 03 02:41:46 AlanJayWeiner: true, I'll take a look now. But isn't java compiled code for the JVM? Sep 03 02:41:57 yup Sep 03 02:42:06 jonpry, did you get your TP back yet? Sep 03 02:42:14 Hi Sep 03 02:42:19 I was thinking more on C or C++ Sep 03 02:42:39 I was thinking the same, since it's low level Sep 03 02:42:45 i bought a new one Sep 03 02:42:57 even then though, understanding what the JVM is going to do is a Good Thing Sep 03 02:43:25 yup, I just started learning java tonight, so I have plenty of time to figure it all out :) Sep 03 02:43:36 I've seen my dad's assembly code before, that seems like a PIA Sep 03 02:44:12 machines have gotten so fast and so cheap lots of code just assumes lots of memory and fast processors Sep 03 02:44:31 what do you mean? Sep 03 02:44:33 I love assembly code - you know exactly what's going to happen Sep 03 02:45:24 jonpry, initrd needs to be included in the kernel sourcE? Sep 03 02:45:29 source* Sep 03 02:45:34 my favorite example is firefox - love it, but right now it's using ** 1.2 GIGABYTES ** of memory - what in the holy sphincter of hell are they using that much memory for??? Sep 03 02:45:36 what? Sep 03 02:45:55 AlanJayWeiner: ahhhh - FF is a hog Sep 03 02:46:29 someone told me initrd needs to be combined with the kernel, but also in the kernel source Sep 03 02:46:32 ahh Sep 03 02:46:35 I don't get it either lol Sep 03 02:46:41 it's worse than most, but that's too typical Sep 03 02:46:44 did you have to buy it at the markup price jon? Sep 03 02:46:51 it needs to be combined via mkimage Sep 03 02:47:08 I especially notice it because I develop on virtual machines, and my notebook only supports 4GB Sep 03 02:47:10 and there is something like CONFIG_INITRD you need. but that is almost certainly already on Sep 03 02:47:25 Alright cool Sep 03 02:47:31 can you try out this zImage for me when its done? Sep 03 02:47:32 i wonder if the audiophileprohd coupon runs out if too many users…use it Sep 03 02:47:39 AlanJayWeiner: why on vm's? Sep 03 02:48:25 I've had too many times where one toolset will mess up another - I've done a lot of contract work, so generally have to follow whatever the client is using Sep 03 02:48:52 are you a programmer for a living? Sep 03 02:49:04 it also keeps my notebook cleaner - not so much cruft left behind from installing/trying/uninstalling stuff Sep 03 02:49:27 yup - unemployed right now; looking for new work/contracts Sep 03 02:50:01 playing with the Android/Linux stuff right now just to learn - especially kernel stuff Sep 03 02:50:19 I'm just entering my junior year, I really want to do electrical engineering (my dad's one), but I love the field Sep 03 02:51:07 you'll do well learning EE; tends to instill better habits - software might blow up, but hardware *really* shows when you mess up... :) Sep 03 02:51:08 i need a mechanical engineer for manufacturing if anyone is interested and qualified Sep 03 02:51:27 Hmm Sep 03 02:51:43 AlanJayWeiner: I <3 electronics, I'm the resident geek at my school Sep 03 02:51:56 * AlanJayWeiner applauds Sep 03 02:52:03 My SNR on my router is fucking high Sep 03 02:52:07 21.5 dB Sep 03 02:52:11 Any breakthroughs Sep 03 02:52:48 AlanJayWeiner: at least doing something that I like will make my career less suckish Sep 03 02:52:52 I worked at a computer store - I was there when the Apple II came out. we bought a 16MB machine, then memory chips to upgrade it to 64MB. I promptly put them all in backwards. $600+ instantly goes away... Sep 03 02:53:13 sperman- not less suckish; often lots of *fun* Sep 03 02:53:35 Or will touch need to be coded from scratch? Sep 03 02:53:37 woot! Sep 03 02:53:43 you'll still have to do things you won't like, but it's way better than doing 8+ hrs/day of something you don't like! Sep 03 02:54:04 AlanJayWeiner: I have an apple IIe from the town dump, w/ the floppy drive and the original monitor Sep 03 02:54:09 Ehh I could still be working at my arcade job Sep 03 02:54:12 And be making Sep 03 02:54:14 $7.25 Sep 03 02:54:37 for all the young guys in here, consider an MIS degree. Understand the programming aspects of business, but run the projects. Sep 03 02:54:44 cool! I wish I'd kept all my old equipment - no Apples, but a ton of 8080/Z-80 S-100 bus-era stuff Sep 03 02:55:02 Framework, why do i want your zImage? Sep 03 02:55:09 I, nor my dad (I think) has any machines that old lying around Sep 03 02:55:16 Botero- some will like that, but I'd much rather be coding! Sep 03 02:55:56 :S Sep 03 02:56:05 ers Sep 03 02:56:10 Lol I know itil hehe but that's not all that Sep 03 02:56:16 just wanted to try out touchscreen drivers Sep 03 02:56:23 I've got a pair of 8" floppy disk drives in the basement, and an early IBM PC, and a few cards, but I had a lot of stuff I just threw out Sep 03 02:56:36 Framework, they're not going to work Sep 03 02:57:09 AlanJayWeiner: I'm not even sure what we still have, but a lot of old oscilloscopes and testing equiptment Sep 03 02:57:21 Forever the optimist Sep 03 02:57:27 Jokes Sep 03 02:57:59 Sigh... Sep 03 02:58:06 I've got a scope too; and a bunch of RS-232 equipment, but haven't used them in a long time Sep 03 02:58:14 Had to shut off some poor persons internet just now Sep 03 02:58:26 PROTIP: Don't download 3 TBs in one month Sep 03 02:58:32 darkredflame_- you *meanie*!! Sep 03 02:58:32 was it yours? Sep 03 02:58:43 jonpry: No Sep 03 02:58:52 It was some poor sap in Boise Sep 03 02:58:53 What's the problem jonpry? Also how was qdl mode testing going? Sep 03 02:58:57 darkredflame_, ISP? Sep 03 02:59:06 I've got a nice, classic fully functional 1970's Tektronix scope that works like a charm. Yay, Craigslist. :) Sep 03 02:59:12 CenturyLink (Qwest) Sep 03 02:59:13 Now I need to learn how to use the monster. Sep 03 02:59:23 we have old HP equipment Sep 03 02:59:28 3tb lol Sep 03 02:59:37 darkredflame_, did they torrent or usenet unencrytped or something? Sep 03 02:59:37 TellarHK- cool! I've got an old Philips Sep 03 02:59:45 Woah that's a lot of porn Sep 03 02:59:46 gx1400_: torrent traffic Sep 03 02:59:49 tandy 1000xl **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Sep 03 02:59:56 2011