**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 28 02:59:56 2010 Mar 28 03:25:57 weird... now the beagleboard isn't getting an IP address. Mar 28 03:32:17 ah... a pegasus thingy works, yet asix doesn't, for some reason. Mar 28 03:39:48 weird... why would asix suddenly fail to transmit and receive? Mar 28 03:56:13 Class driver suspend failed for cpu0 Mar 28 03:56:15 still getting that. Mar 28 04:07:47 ARGH Mar 28 04:09:12 I haven't yet seen one kernel consistently suspend (nevermind resuming). Mar 28 04:26:18 rcn-ee: what timezone are you in? Mar 28 04:32:15 the omap kernels (all of them) refuse to suspend. :( Mar 28 05:18:48 so... any time I try to suspend, it fails... and loses track of all USB devices. Mar 28 05:58:19 DanaG, US Central time. ;) But i just got back from a bonfire... Mar 28 05:58:26 ah. Mar 28 05:58:39 heh, I'm on Pacific time. Just about 11 PM here. Mar 28 05:58:59 Anyway, I lost track of the wiki thing with the initramfs setup script... do you remember where that was? Mar 28 06:00:01 ah cool, 1am here, going to give .1-dl5 a test, as i see it's done.. the initramfs stuff is on the talk/discussion page, haven't moved it to the main wiki as it's not finalized... ;) Mar 28 06:00:17 ah. Mar 28 06:00:31 I've had bad luck with suspend/resume... only once have I ever gotten it to even suspend. Mar 28 06:00:41 And sometimes the gpio-keys thing works... other times it doesn't. Mar 28 06:01:08 i'm suprised your having problems with asix.. all the other hardware adapters have failed me over the last 2 years. ;) Mar 28 06:01:32 Oddly enough, unplugging it for a minute or so, and then plugging it back in, seemed to fix it. Mar 28 06:01:50 I' Mar 28 06:02:08 weird, i can't do that on my machines, they are in the racks.. i can switch power on/off... Mar 28 06:02:59 I'm also using the new u-boot announced on the mailing-list, with support for expansion boards... though I don't have any such boards. Mar 28 06:03:53 It looks interesting, my zippy2 is on my desk at work so i can't test it till monday... Mar 28 06:05:09 sweet .1-dl5 works... Mar 28 06:05:14 hi Mar 28 06:05:38 qsd8762 is a true monster Mar 28 06:05:40 talk about a weird bug triggered by the .config with gcc 4.4... Mar 28 06:05:51 where I can order a dev board? Mar 28 06:05:57 which one? Mar 28 06:06:27 any Mar 28 06:06:36 preferably with hdmi Mar 28 06:07:05 preferably official Mar 28 06:08:31 does in-progress count as official? ;) I'm a little bias towards the omap/beagle's since i've been working with them for a number of years.. ;) Mar 28 06:08:31 what's the ETA on the XM? That's the most well-known and well-available thing I've seen. Mar 28 06:09:24 hmm, still wondering why I always get "class suspend failed for cpu0" Mar 28 06:09:25 Last Jason/Gerald where saying was mid/early summer.. The proto's are out and being tested, but finaly memory size hasn't been completely decided.. Mar 28 06:09:45 the asix does support WOL in Windows on my host; haven't tried it in Linux on my host. Mar 28 06:09:56 But ethtool offers "supports WOL: pg" Mar 28 06:11:13 ok if no other variants Mar 28 06:11:54 oh, and now I see that lack of NAND on beagle-XM won't be such a big deal for me... I'd have root on SD, anyway. Mar 28 06:12:08 I wonder how all this super puper soc manufacturers are supposing to make their products successful while nobody ever seen them outside of a website? Mar 28 06:12:24 Baybal, Crap, out of stock, should have more in this week: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=296-23428-ND Mar 28 06:12:37 http://www.hwtools.net/ExtenderBoard/TFEX.html Mar 28 06:12:45 interesting. Mar 28 06:13:12 anyway, dl5 boots fine without initrd; just doesn't suspend. Mar 28 06:13:23 the lack of Nand gives more room in memory space for ram.. It's just a question if micron can make it. ;) Mar 28 06:13:29 None of the kernels have suspended reliably for me... though perhaps changing u-boot versions affects that. Mar 28 06:14:23 hmm, on beagle XM, which way does the SD slot point? Mar 28 06:14:35 It'd be nice if it pointed in a way that made this thingy not dangle off the side. =P Mar 28 06:14:38 now that we got the boot problem fix, i'll play around tomorrow with suspend stuff, it's related to the power management stuff.. Mar 28 06:15:01 oh, and how do you tell Linux to keep the video-output stuff just plain OFF? Mar 28 06:15:32 I don't need it for now; might as well save a bit of power and RAM. Mar 28 06:15:33 there are only omap based, I want qsd 8762 based Mar 28 06:15:44 it's actually a micro sd card slot now, so it'll stick out less then otg plug. (it's also under the board) Mar 28 06:16:26 ahh sorry, didn't know gsd 8762 was actually an arm variant... Mar 28 06:17:06 hmm, anyway, check out that adapter. Lets you stick full-size SD into micro-sd slot. Mar 28 06:17:07 Part of enabling DSS2 also allows us to control the power regulators, so you can turn off video sections.. Mar 28 06:17:12 It just dangles away a bit. Mar 28 06:17:55 hmm, neither qsd nor gsd 8762 give me any results in google. Mar 28 06:18:02 rather, no meaningful results. Mar 28 06:18:12 oh, snapdragon? Mar 28 06:18:15 i think it's qualcom? Mar 28 06:18:48 hmm, qualcomm 8762 also gives nothing useful. Mar 28 06:21:00 snapdragon2 Mar 28 06:22:07 8672 Mar 28 06:22:09 sorry Mar 28 06:24:03 QSD8672 Mar 28 06:24:11 qualcomm is always fun, i think your going to have to inquire them directly for a development kit... Mar 28 06:25:00 ... Mar 28 06:25:01 yaa Mar 28 06:25:34 It's first soc featuring new gen. ati imageon and such a disgrace Mar 28 06:27:07 twice as powerful as top configurations of sgx540 and mali400 Mar 28 06:27:08 is imageon supposed to be anything like radeon? Mar 28 06:27:30 think of it as ati 8500 in a bga Mar 28 06:27:45 yes, desktop comparable performance Mar 28 06:27:47 ah. cool. Mar 28 06:28:23 anyway, enough messing with beagleboard suspend for one night/day/night/whatever. Mar 28 06:28:53 now we have some sammy hw and supposed to do a phone design Mar 28 06:28:58 last i read it's lossely based on what went into the r500 family, so it might have the best 3d support of any arm chip.. Mar 28 06:29:52 My sole criteria for "useful 3D" on any platform: Can it run Compiz? Mar 28 06:30:00 Even my old Radeon 7500 can. Mar 28 06:30:28 the worst part is that q has not even put a normal datasheet on power consumption Mar 28 06:31:18 imageon thing would be fine if it would drink less than a half of total chip tdp Mar 28 06:31:21 what i hate about the sgx... well you have to run this specific binary for any 3d stuff and it's not that good.. Mar 28 06:31:39 what does glxinfo on it show? Mar 28 06:31:52 my sd card is not big enough to fit the sdk... will have to get bigger SD card before I can try. Mar 28 06:33:07 * Baybal looking toward ST8500 Mar 28 06:33:26 I just wonder where all those A9 based dev boards goes Mar 28 06:33:45 i should actually run glxinfo and see.. i usually load the modules with the binary's and just verify the demo's work... it's like 300-400Mb over your rootfs, 4GB's card work for that.. Mar 28 06:34:58 they are in high demand... The tegra is about the easiest dual a9 to get at this point.. Mar 28 06:35:28 * Baybal already has 2 Mar 28 06:35:56 how do you like it? I've heard good things from martin Mar 28 06:39:06 glx working 1 minute then goes blackscreen Mar 28 06:39:39 looked for mesa bugs, xorg... find a bug in kernel Mar 28 06:40:20 performance comparable to sgx 535 thing Mar 28 06:40:30 I actually awaited more... Mar 28 06:40:35 laughs... sounds like they need more boards out their for people to debug/test for them.. Mar 28 06:40:39 hmm, what 3D chip is tegra? I know NV... but what NV desktop chip is it light? Mar 28 06:41:06 er, like. Mar 28 06:41:39 I'm not a person who is developing design for tegras, probably would as them Mar 28 06:42:28 wikipedia calls it a geforce ulv Mar 28 06:48:25 * DanaG goes off to bed. Mar 28 06:50:58 it's a bummer there's no open ATI+ARM. Mar 28 06:51:09 * Baybal wonders of android guys working on 4+ separate trees and complaining nobody doing backporting for them Mar 28 06:54:27 ARM with a pci express bus, then i'll add ati graphics.. okay 2am, later.. Mar 28 06:56:02 good night. =P Mar 28 16:55:18 hi, Mar 28 16:55:18 I have installed Ubuntu Karmic on the Beagle c4, and now I'm checking the image with putty. Does it suppose to hold that long on the "Free init memory 188K" ? Mar 28 16:55:18 It's about 5 min now ... Mar 28 17:17:17 Okay it looks like it stuck **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:09:14 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:44:15 2010 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 29 02:59:57 2010