**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 27 02:59:57 2010 May 27 04:45:04 - Linux >= 2.6.20 with I/O accounting support (CONFIG_TASKSTATS, CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT, CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING): Not found May 27 07:13:26 morning May 27 07:14:58 hi hrw! May 27 07:21:24 morning .pl May 27 07:26:39 amitk, hey, how are you May 27 07:27:27 good, how is the flooding situation in .pl? May 27 07:37:16 amitk, it roughly moved on to germany now May 27 07:38:18 ogra: ohh? May 27 07:39:19 the oder flows from poland through germany May 27 07:39:51 i think the highest levels are done in poland and move down the river now May 27 07:42:05 ogra: Poland is big country - flood to my city has not yet arrived May 27 07:42:27 oh, wow May 27 07:42:28 but Szczecin is prepared for Odra flood May 27 07:42:44 we have lot of space for water where no one is allowed to live May 27 07:43:05 german news said the hump would arrive at the german boarder last night May 27 07:43:21 and bigger problem is not water from south but from returning water from Baltic Sea May 27 07:43:34 Szczecin tomorrow/Saturday iirc May 27 07:43:34 yeah May 27 07:44:31 oh, right, Szczecin comes after it went through germany May 27 07:47:33 zyga: sent May 27 07:49:31 hrw, did you get a bounce? May 27 07:49:36 hrw, I suspect you did what I did some time ago May 27 07:50:11 zyga: I just sent it again though my own smtp May 27 07:50:50 hrw, I think you have to send it thru google's own SMTP using "that" domain's account to actually reach your recipients May 27 07:51:11 brb May 27 07:51:12 zyga: smtp is smtp - as long as email is delivered May 27 08:00:36 back May 27 08:01:03 hrw, yeah but google seemed to block my other address, anyway the message is away May 27 08:01:07 hrw, I wonder what people think May 27 08:01:12 hrw, -> (other chan) May 27 08:33:37 ndec, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule May 27 09:01:38 hmm, http://paste.ubuntu.com/440283/ wonder what is happening at line 595 for nfsroot May 27 09:02:28 ogra: ^ any ideas May 27 09:05:32 amitk, i remember there were mountall issues with nfsroot, not sure they are already solved May 27 09:05:47 i guess we need to talk to Keybuk May 27 09:40:33 amitk, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/537133 May 27 09:40:34 Launchpad bug 537133 in portmap (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "mountall issues with NFS root filesystem (affects: 10) (dups: 2) (heat: 72)" [Medium,Fix released] May 27 09:41:01 ubot2, liar !! May 27 09:41:03 Factoid 'liar !!' not found May 27 09:41:18 (its not fix released for mountall, only for portmap) May 27 09:42:09 ogra_cmpc: hmmm... not sure if the second issue is similar to min. May 27 09:42:12 *mine May 27 09:44:43 there is also https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/578851 May 27 09:44:45 Launchpad bug 578851 in mountall (Ubuntu) "Fail to remount root on nfsroot install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] May 27 09:45:36 though you dont seem to have /dev/nfs in your fstab May 27 09:50:15 amitk, erm, do you use an initramfs ? May 27 09:50:21 doesnt look like it May 27 09:50:24 ogra_cmpc: no May 27 09:50:32 i dont think nfs support is compiled in May 27 09:50:41 ogra_cmpc: it is May 27 09:50:47 hmm May 27 09:51:07 and /dev/nfs is in my /etc/fstab for the remote root fs May 27 09:51:24 did you try with initramfs ? May 27 09:51:35 i bet it would work May 27 09:54:10 ogra_cmpc: no, and to be honest I don't want to. I want to be able to boot-test several different arm boards. Compile kernel and copy to webserver. And the board gets its rootfs over nfs May 27 09:55:21 there is not .deb packaging around these kernels, straight mainline + patches May 27 09:55:46 ootserver=192.168.0.254, rootserver=192.168.0.101, rootpath= May 27 09:55:58 seems your rootpath doesnt get handed over properly May 27 09:56:16 line 454 May 27 09:57:37 try with explicitly setting rootpath=/shared/nfs May 27 09:57:50 and see if IP-config gets it then May 27 09:58:04 else i'd actually say its an IP-Config bug May 27 09:58:51 indeed, good catch May 27 09:59:33 also is your export in the server side proper ? (try to mount it rw from somewhere else) May 27 10:00:23 ogra_cmpc: yeah tried that May 27 10:00:24 while rootpath isnt set it obviously gets to mountall, so it must have acessed it May 27 10:00:47 ogra_cmpc: it should get the rootpath or equivalent from the kernel cmdline May 27 10:01:09 (though i dont know if mountalal doesnt try to grab rootpath ... if its empty it likely doesnt know what to do) May 27 10:01:14 *mountall May 27 10:02:54 well, in initramfs we have a special script that parses nfsroot and actually exports rootserver and rootpath, might be that mountall relies on that May 27 10:03:49 see /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs May 27 10:19:18 amitk, heh, do you have devtmpfs support compiled in ? May 27 10:20:03 ogra_cmpc: yes, I saw that mount option for /dev and added it in last night :) May 27 10:20:03 i dont see it listed between 461 and 484 May 27 10:20:39 doesn't ltsp use nfsroot? May 27 10:21:12 nope May 27 10:21:17 nbd May 27 10:21:38 nfs is dog slow compared to an nbd exported squashfs May 27 10:22:06 amitk, try editing /lib/init/fstab and remove devtmpfs there (just keep tmpfs) May 27 10:22:25 i would bet that makes it boot May 27 10:23:15 though that still leave the question why parse_filesystems doesnt swee it May 27 10:23:27 *see May 27 10:25:54 parse_filesystems just loops over /proc/filesystems May 27 10:25:59 ogra_cmpc: ok, it gets stuck at the next step now, /dev/shm May 27 10:26:19 hmm May 27 10:27:39 tmpfs is clearly found May 27 10:28:47 though in your log it seems that all tmpfs mounts have issues too May 27 11:25:55 hrw: i still intent to work on DB#577674 if you do not beat me, but not before 1-2 months May 27 11:28:46 zumbi: ah... its your bug :) May 27 11:32:34 hrw: sure, feel free to add (if you consider) my comments so doko is aware May 27 11:34:08 doko gave mi that bug number May 27 11:36:47 hrw: yes, that is current work May 27 11:37:01 at least to my concern May 27 11:37:32 help is very much welcome :-) May 27 11:49:37 * hrw → lunch May 27 12:44:45 amitk: when i look at ubuntu kernel tree, i can see tags such as Ubuntu-2.6.34-1.1. what does the 1.1 mean? how does it related to mainline tag? May 27 12:46:34 ndec: it doesn't relate to the mainline tag. It is Ubuntu's internal abi versioning. So 1.1 means abi version 1, upload 1. May 27 12:46:44 1.2 would be same abi but new upload May 27 12:48:56 amitk: ok, thx. May 27 12:49:10 ndec: this is to make sure all external modules/packages depending on internal abi are recompiled when a new kernel abi hits the archive May 27 12:49:55 e.g. the dkms packages for the binary -nvidia and -ati drivers use this May 27 12:50:39 amitk: so how do you decide if there is an abi change? May 27 12:52:42 ndec: automated scripts (debian/script/abi-check) are run after a new kernel build. If the hashes for internal functions have changed, the build will fail if we haven't changed the abi version in debian/changelog May 27 12:53:32 Has anyone used the "edit-patch" from ubuntu-dev-tools package? I'm trying to use it but it complains about "Patch system can not be detected ...." And I use quilt in my case. Any help appreciated. May 27 12:53:40 amitk: thx! May 27 12:59:32 berco: You could set -x it and see where it fails May 27 12:59:41 berco: It might not be detecting a quilt build-dep or a quilt rules include May 27 13:04:54 lool: thx. Apparently the script is looking for some file that I'm missing: "debian/patches/series" May 27 13:05:46 berco: Yes, that's the expected place for your quilt series May 27 13:06:07 berco: You probably want such a file with the list of patches if you're using May 27 13:06:10 quilt May 27 13:07:18 I have quilt installed but I'm now trying to find some doc as to what "series" is supposed to do May 27 13:08:38 berco: series is a list of filenames May 27 13:08:43 of patches to apply May 27 13:08:48 the files should be below debian/patches May 27 13:09:01 berco: You might want to look at existing packages using quilt? May 27 13:09:22 berco: e.g. apt-get source gconf2 May 27 13:10:08 lool: thanks. I think I got confused and thought I could use "edit-patch" to create a new patch. May 27 13:10:18 berco: That's the goal I think May 27 13:10:31 berco: quilt provides commands to do this as well May 27 13:11:22 lool: but if I create a new patch "series" potentially doesn't exist for the 1st patch May 27 13:11:31 so I need to create it empty? May 27 13:14:14 Yes May 27 13:15:35 lool: many thanks. "touch debian/patches/series" is enough to start working with "edit-patch" :) May 27 13:20:26 berco: Cool :) May 27 13:23:59 hrw: No need to put your name before work items in brackets because you're the assignee May 27 13:24:09 hrw: we only do that when someone not the assignee helps with the spec May 27 13:24:31 no need but I can - right? May 27 13:25:43 * ogra always puts his name in front ... May 27 13:25:51 ... to honor the Department Of Redundancy Department May 27 13:28:46 hrw: it's a bit cluttering, but you can yes May 27 13:32:47 lol :-) May 27 13:34:46 hrw, there seems to be a kernel that spits out console= into upstart environment at https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/green/+packages May 27 13:35:27 seems like we'll get that for all meverick kernels soon May 27 13:35:30 *maverick May 27 13:36:11 cool May 27 13:38:00 CONFIG_INIT_PASS_ALL_PARAMS May 27 13:39:28 yeah May 27 13:39:40 ubuntu addon May 27 13:39:45 right May 27 13:40:03 yet :) May 27 13:40:14 will go upstream if they want it May 27 13:40:31 patch is small and quite nice May 27 13:41:15 should definately be good enough to base the autotty code on May 27 13:41:35 yep May 27 13:41:42 waiting for omap3 kernel with it May 27 13:41:59 up to amitk or cooloney i guess May 27 13:42:05 or mpoirier May 27 13:42:24 not sure who is supposed to take the omap3 maverick kernel May 27 13:42:58 cooloney is likely busy enough with omap4 May 27 13:43:18 mpoirier will take care of it May 27 13:43:59 ah, right May 27 13:45:02 mpoirier, hrw is working on an upstart enhancement to autospawn a getty if console=ttyS... is set May 27 13:45:38 so having the patch thats being tested at https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/green/+packages would be intresting for us in the omap3 kernel May 27 13:46:09 ogra, its not like upstart cannot get that information already from /proc/cmdline May 27 13:46:23 apw, Keybuk denied that May 27 13:46:25 apw: keybuk does not want that way May 27 13:46:33 he wants to have the script proper on first shot :) May 27 13:46:35 already discussed and it got refused May 27 13:46:57 i can believe he doesn't want it that way, but till he tests the patch for real its in it court May 27 13:47:08 i suspect there is some initramfs work to stop that fecking up all the options too May 27 13:50:14 so, should I try applying the patch on OMAP3 ? May 27 13:50:55 mpoirier, as soon as apw approves and Keybuk has tested it May 27 13:51:16 very well. Lucid, Maverick or both ? May 27 13:51:17 (just wanted to let you know why i pinged you actually :) ) May 27 13:51:25 maverick only May 27 13:51:34 should we open a bug for it ? May 27 13:51:35 lucid doesnt get new features May 27 13:52:27 mpoirier: did not omap3 built from same sources in maverick? May 27 13:52:41 indeed. May 27 13:56:01 hrw, well, a bug wont do any harm to track the issue May 27 13:56:25 so you actually know when its applied May 27 13:56:39 hrw, feel free to subscribe to bug 586386 May 27 13:56:41 Launchpad bug 586386 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu) "omap3 kernel should hand over all comdline args to the init environment (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586386 May 27 13:56:51 bah, i typoed :( May 27 13:57:59 ogra: let apw know about the bug so that he can auto close it when he applies it to the kernel May 27 13:58:14 indeed May 27 13:58:19 apw, ^^^ May 27 14:01:46 added links May 27 14:05:20 ogra, amitk, ack have the number now May 27 14:05:51 thanks ... i would have triaged it properly but dont know what that takes for the kernel team :) May 27 14:55:02 have you guys seen meego release? May 27 14:55:40 looks like moblin May 27 14:56:27 it is moblin May 27 14:56:59 is it done in Qt? May 27 14:56:59 just rebranded May 27 14:57:08 amitk: no, still clutter/gtk May 27 14:57:25 or rather MX (which is clutter based UI toolkit) May 27 14:57:42 hmm May 27 14:57:52 they use qt as the "standard" toolkit though May 27 14:58:05 zyga: they announce it atleast May 27 14:58:18 * hrw had to work in moblin team May 27 14:58:21 there is some talk about how to use qtcreator to make meego apps May 27 14:58:30 and since meego = nokia + intel May 27 14:58:40 qt and atom are the way to go for this project May 27 14:58:48 I wonder how it plays out with ARM and ... AMD May 27 14:59:06 meego is this nice "not android" software you can put on a product May 27 15:00:38 * zyga just tried dd'ing meego image on to /dev/sda on his main workstation May 27 15:00:53 fortunately I was saved by crappy gvfs May 27 15:00:58 the image was on .gvfs May 27 15:01:05 and sudo dd didn't find the source file May 27 15:01:16 this made me re-read what I wrote May 27 15:02:34 that error made me write usb-imagewriter :) May 27 15:02:47 * ogra once wiped his laptop HDD with a wrong dd May 27 15:04:12 I have system on sdb May 27 15:04:47 sda1 is 10GB very old debian rootfs so no big loss (newer is on sdb1) May 27 15:05:22 well, if you typo your dd command to sdb thats bad then :) May 27 15:06:58 ogra, the one that ubuntu has? May 27 15:07:25 ogra: current rootfs is on sdb3 May 27 15:07:26 zyga, ? May 27 15:07:40 the one what ? May 27 15:07:42 ogra, what is usb-imagewriter May 27 15:07:49 its a gui for dd May 27 15:07:55 its in universe May 27 15:08:14 and scans for mounted disks before offering you devices to write to May 27 15:08:28 so you can never write to your actual root disk May 27 15:08:53 * zyga will try it out May 27 15:09:10 file bugs if you find any, i havent used it since quite a while :) May 27 15:13:15 lool: the more I look at dh_movefiles removal, the more I do not see a need for it. May 27 15:13:54 lool: I can do migration (already migrated some subpackages) but it can be ugly in few places. May 27 15:47:41 ogra - you around ? May 27 15:48:48 mpoirier, yup May 27 15:48:52 good. May 27 15:49:01 bug 566645 May 27 15:49:01 Launchpad bug 566645 in linux-ti-omap (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "doing a netinstall to SD card results in OTG related oops on first boot (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566645 May 27 15:49:33 have you been able to reproduce reliably ? May 27 15:50:12 not since OTG was disabled completely anymore :) May 27 15:50:38 educate me on OTG pls. May 27 15:50:56 its the small USB port on the C series beagle May 27 15:51:07 it can run in host or gadget mode May 27 15:51:08 ok. May 27 15:51:23 what as OTG disabled ? May 27 15:51:32 during lucid development we found its broken, amitk didnt manage to find a fix so it was disabled completely May 27 15:51:34 when was OTG disabled ? May 27 15:51:43 after i filed that bug May 27 15:51:51 we indeed want it to work in maverick May 27 15:51:52 is the bug still valid ? May 27 15:52:19 dunno, once i have a maverick image to test i will be able to tell you, its not valid for lucid anymore May 27 15:52:37 vey well. May 27 15:53:36 i changed the bug status accordingly May 27 15:53:52 about maverick. May 27 15:54:18 I have a lucid powered beagleboard. May 27 15:54:29 I compile a 2.6.34 kernel and install it on. May 27 15:54:39 ok May 27 15:54:44 have you done it ? May 27 15:55:12 /dev/mmcblk02 seems to be missing, preventing the rootfs to be mounted. May 27 15:55:22 and the system stalls in busybox. May 27 15:55:34 I'd like to know if I'm the only one with the problem. May 27 15:55:42 /dev/mmcblk02 or /dev/mmcblk0p2 ? May 27 15:55:55 the latter yes, May 27 15:56:01 writing this off the top of my head. May 27 15:56:15 i havent put much time into omap3 stuff recently working on the omap4 stuff atm May 27 15:56:34 ok, I'll investigate May 27 15:56:37 but i just compiled a touchbook kernel for my touchbook which works fine May 27 15:56:43 based on .34 May 27 15:57:13 so its likely a config option you miss or something like that May 27 15:57:28 since the touchbook boots from mmc May 27 15:57:41 Well, it's off Leann's integration branch May 27 15:58:02 which should include all the OMAP3 changes from Lucid. May 27 15:58:04 hrw: problem is that dh_movefiles is deprecated May 27 15:58:15 hrw: dh compat 2 is really old and might go away May 27 15:59:00 ok, but what does it give except 'dh_movefiles may be dropped one day'? May 27 15:59:22 hrw: That seems like a good reason to move away from it May 27 15:59:32 ogra: you already have a panda board don't you ? May 27 15:59:35 mpoirier, if we have a binary kernel i'll help testing that on my beagle its hard to tell why yours doesnt find mmcblk0p2 May 27 15:59:37 hrw: but frankly, it's not the highest priority work in the cross-compilers spec May 27 15:59:53 mpoirier, not yet, it should arrive on the weekend or monday i think May 27 16:00:03 mpoirier, did yours arrive already ? May 27 16:00:18 ogra: nop, but was supposed to have been shipped. May 27 16:00:21 lool: sure, we need to prioritize it May 27 16:00:26 great May 27 16:00:31 ogra: what are you testing OMPAP4 on then ? May 27 16:00:36 blaze May 27 16:00:46 lool: but this updated my debhelper knowledge May 27 16:00:53 looks like a giant mobile phone :) May 27 16:01:15 hrw: Ok May 27 16:01:19 hrw: Are you still fighting it May 27 16:01:42 lool: I made some notes and can return to it later without problems May 27 16:01:51 ogra: for mmcblk0p2, all you need is the linux-image*.deb file ? May 27 16:02:11 hrw: Ok, if you're moving to something else, mark it back TODO May 27 16:02:17 mpoirier, did you do a standard ubuntu install on the board (i.e. from one of the installer images) May 27 16:02:29 sure lool May 27 16:02:46 then you should just be able to dpkg -i the deb May 27 16:03:01 ogra: I'm in Lucid and do "dpkg --force-depends -i package.deb" May 27 16:03:16 why --force-depends ? May 27 16:03:34 ogra: --force-depens is mandatory. Otherwise complains about wireless package not present on system May 27 16:03:51 then you didnt do an ubuntu install :) May 27 16:04:00 the images ship these packages by default May 27 16:04:39 so you will additionally need to create an uImage from vmlinuz as well as a uInitrd May 27 16:04:39 ogra: I followed the instructions found at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#U-Boot_uImage May 27 16:04:45 ow May 27 16:04:50 ? May 27 16:05:06 well, while thats nice to get ubuntu running its not ubuntu :) May 27 16:05:37 our setup is different, the installer applies bits these images cant provide (like writing uImage to NAND etc) May 27 16:05:55 so if you use such an image you have to do some parts manually to upgrade the kernel May 27 16:06:06 if you use an ubuntu kernel package May 27 16:06:34 first of all i'd resolve the dependency issue so you dont have to use --force-depends all the time :) May 27 16:06:53 after dpkg -i failed run "sudo apt-get -f install" May 27 16:07:00 that will install the missing package May 27 16:07:11 before going any further it is mandatory that I get my board configured the same way as yours. May 27 16:07:16 (assuming you have a NIC attached) May 27 16:07:20 I do. May 27 16:07:30 nah, not for kernel testing May 27 16:07:44 actually not using NAND for the kernel will make testing easier May 27 16:08:00 but you should use a script for the updating of the kernel ... May 27 16:08:23 http://paste.ubuntu.com/439253/ thats a setup i use on my blaze May 27 16:08:23 not using NAND is a boot script thing. May 27 16:08:49 that should update the kernel on vaft May 27 16:08:53 *vfat May 27 16:08:59 mpoirier: cheap omap boards after beagleboard will not have nand afaik May 27 16:09:09 * armin76 steals NCommander's boards May 27 16:09:47 hrw, right, but flash-kernel has no integration for that setup yet, i still need to write it May 27 16:10:00 it will be similar to the above paste May 27 16:10:10 just less hardcoded :) May 27 16:11:09 ah.. no symlinks on vfat.. May 27 16:11:33 but do we have symlinks in /boot? May 27 16:11:36 and using a vfat bootpartition is surely better than having to fiddle with uImage in nand from the u-boot prompt ... if you run test kernels taht break from time to time May 27 16:11:41 we do May 27 16:11:56 omap has.. May 27 16:11:58 which is why we will have an extra vfat partition for the uImage May 27 16:12:13 my desktop does not May 27 16:12:34 right May 27 16:12:47 ogra: on bug 2.0 we used one ext3 partition and enabled ext support in uboot May 27 16:12:51 worked fine May 27 16:12:57 bug 2.0 is omap3 based May 27 16:13:11 kernel was loaded from /boot/ on that ext3 May 27 16:13:26 well, on beagle u-boot ext2 support always crashed for me or took horridly long May 27 16:13:38 before we used same config on i.mx31 May 27 16:13:48 anyway time for me May 27 16:13:53 ogra: get back to me when you're done with hrw May 27 16:13:57 right, if ext support works ext is great May 27 16:13:58 have a nice rest of day May 27 16:14:03 ciao hrw May 27 16:14:17 mpoirier, just chime in that was just chatter :) May 27 16:14:30 ogra: greetings May 27 16:14:55 ogra: hey, is there a trick to using an unbuntu rootfs over NFS? May 27 16:14:58 mpoirier, so use something similar to the script i pasted above and put it into kernel-img.conf May 27 16:15:24 prpplague, amitk did that today shouldnt require any tricks May 27 16:15:36 ogra: hmm May 27 16:15:41 mpoirier, as a postinst_hook May 27 16:16:01 ogra: we tested on panda and blaze, and both hang after mounting the rootfs and starting up the GUI stuff May 27 16:16:23 mpoirier, the dpkg -i usually rebuilds the initramfs if you use ubuntu kernel packages so it should just work May 27 16:16:50 prpplague, but you can boot it up to a console prompt ? May 27 16:17:02 ogra: everytime I updated it did rebuild the initrd May 27 16:17:08 might be an issue with gnome May 27 16:17:22 mpoirier, perfect so the above script should just work for you May 27 16:17:25 ogra: I need to understand the kernel-img.conf thing. May 27 16:18:02 its a file usually created by the installer on arm we dont actually use it anymore May 27 16:18:07 ogra: I was already doing mkimage to generate a new uImage and uInitrd - classic embedded stuff May 27 16:19:08 right, the postinst script of the kernel package looks in kernel-img.conf, if it finds a postinst_hook entry it will execute it after the package was installed May 27 16:20:47 we used to use flash-kernel as a postinst_hook in former releases (flash-kernel is the tool used on all arm platforms in debian and ubuntu to care for HW specific cases to activate the new kernel ... i.e. write to NAND if needed or copy to vfat etc) May 27 16:21:30 today flash-kernel is automatically called by update-initramfs so kernel-img.conf isnt used anymore May 27 16:22:31 as i said above, the changes to flash-kernel to create an uImage on a vfat partition were not written yet so currently you need to apply a script and use kernel-img.conf for your setup May 27 16:22:49 ogra: yea if we use a scaled down image we can get a prompt May 27 16:22:54 i'll land these changes soon (before the alpha2 release) May 27 16:23:00 ogra: but if we use the larger images it just hangs May 27 16:23:12 prpplague, very likely gnome not getting along with NFS mounted home May 27 16:23:22 do you use an initramfs ? May 27 16:24:09 (that uses nfsmount and applies nolock in ubuntu, i'm not sure the kernel does that by default if you use the in-kernel way of nfsroot) May 27 16:24:30 we weren't using an initramfs for this testing, i was guessing it probably had some permissions or temp workspace issues May 27 16:25:01 ogra: ahh seems like i read something about that with regards to ubuntu May 27 16:25:13 well, if it boots through to a running system its likely X related ... gdm or the homedir in gnome etc May 27 16:25:19 ogra: is there a wiki page or howto doc we could look at? May 27 16:25:38 for using initramfs ? May 27 16:25:57 or for nfs bugs ? :) May 27 16:25:59 for doing ubuntu over nfs May 27 16:26:54 i dont think there is anything arm specifc May 27 16:27:20 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto might be the best you can get but thats outdated i think May 27 16:27:43 thanks i think i had that one bookmarked for a look over today May 27 16:27:58 ogra: I looked at you pasted script and I was doing the exact same thing, except mine wasn't automated. May 27 16:28:18 ogra: the real problem seems to come from the initial installation May 27 16:28:29 that might be May 27 16:28:32 ogra: where some packages seems to be missing. May 27 16:28:54 ogra: I don't think it is cause by my "C2" rev. May 27 16:28:59 right, that rootfs is created with rootstock that might not get you a 100% ubuntu May 27 16:29:10 its shouldnt be May 27 16:29:12 *it May 27 16:29:55 ogra: that being said, where do I find the "approved" way of installing Ubuntu on beableBoard ? Should I use the netinstall ? May 27 16:29:57 prpplague, sorry that i cant help much more but since i switched ltsp to nbd images in 2006 i havent touched nfsroot anymore :) May 27 16:30:21 hehe indeed, it was just one of the items that we wanted to test May 27 16:30:30 ahh the good ol' days of LTSP May 27 16:30:35 mpoirier, you wont have much fun for kernel development with the approved way May 27 16:31:11 mpoirier, since we flash the kernel to NAND by default which gets you into bad situations once you flashed a broken kernel May 27 16:31:33 mpoirier, though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Beagle has the 2official" images May 27 16:33:47 ogra: haven't i seen you in the #ltsp channel in the past? May 27 16:34:24 prpplague, i wrote ltsp5 with scottie, you have for sure :) May 27 16:34:43 ogra: ahh right May 27 16:34:43 i stepped down in 2008 though May 27 16:34:59 * prpplague dropped out of LTSP stuff back around 2001 May 27 16:35:04 but i'm still a resident there and go to the november meetings in maine :) May 27 16:42:50 btw, semi-related to questions about X11/gdm and nfsroot, etc... how actually does recovery mode work? May 27 16:43:06 is there some bootarg I can add to tell upstart not to start gdm/x11? May 27 16:44:01 single or text on the cmdline May 27 16:44:20 ogra: ahh, perfect.. thx May 27 16:44:30 single requires an initramfs and gets you to a rootshell, text just switches off gdm May 27 16:44:48 ok.. text is probably good for what I am trying to do.. May 27 17:24:47 ogra: the package I'm missing is "wireless-crda" May 27 17:25:01 yeah May 27 17:25:04 any idea why and where I could get it - for ARM that is. May 27 17:25:39 just apt-get -f install should install it May 27 17:26:06 beyond that http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/w/wireless-crda/ but apt knows which version you want May 27 17:26:22 fabulous - thanks. May 27 17:46:36 prpplague: ogra: I didn May 27 17:46:39 oops May 27 17:47:29 prpplague: ogra: I didn't use the full desktop, only build-essential and openssh-server for my rootstrap May 27 18:51:47 omapfb omapfb: illegal display bpp May 27 18:51:49 omapfb omapfb: failed to setup fb_info May 27 18:51:51 omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb May 27 18:51:53 omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb May 27 18:51:59 omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -22 May 27 18:52:38 ogra: these are my kernel messages when i try to run the server install on tv May 27 18:57:08 gah, i hate how debian/ubuntu slim down the d-i kernel May 27 18:57:26 it doesnt detect the second usb hub on beagle May 27 19:20:58 (ok, old uboot) May 27 19:51:46 ogra: ping May 27 19:59:26 ogra: how is your flash-kernel fixes for omap going that would update the uImage etc. on mmc1 if no nand is found? May 27 20:54:11 asac, will do them next week, do you need a prototype ? May 27 20:55:58 xorAxAx, try to modify the bootargs on boot.scr with a differnt resolution https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BeagleEditBootscr May 27 21:02:38 ogra: nah, thats fine. just wanted to know if you already did that in case i feel like doing it tomorrow May 27 21:03:24 well, it needs to work with our new image design May 27 21:04:41 ogra: my understand is that we dont mount boot, but rather just look up the right fat partition and update the uimage etc. there May 27 21:04:58 right May 27 21:05:27 http://paste.ubuntu.com/439253/ something like that with sane detection code will go into flash-kernle May 27 21:05:30 ogra: resolution? i tried pal May 27 21:05:37 (note we dont need kernel-imf.conf anymore) May 27 21:06:12 ogra: the whole FB setups fails when i try that, doing that later on with sysfs works May 27 21:06:17 ogra: why that postinst hook? why not just put that code in flash-kernel directly? May 27 21:06:54 we do, and flash-kernle is now always called from update-initramfs so we dont need it anymore May 27 21:07:17 ok thats what i thought then May 27 21:07:17 kernel-img.conf is dead in debian for arm May 27 21:07:44 it merged their changes to flash-kernel which hooks directly into initramfs-tools now May 27 21:07:46 let me see if i still have the code i wrote at some point May 27 21:08:17 with the new image structure you can hardcode mmcblk0p1 if you want btw May 27 21:08:25 hmm May 27 21:08:31 https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/preinstalled-sd-card-images-for-omap May 27 21:08:45 thats what ubuntu will have for arm from 10.07 on May 27 21:08:55 all arm images? May 27 21:09:05 well, we'll only produce omap in the distro May 27 21:09:10 ah ...kk May 27 21:09:24 and the panda restrictions force such an image May 27 21:09:32 (no local disk at all now) May 27 21:11:19 ogra: why cant we install the rootfs on a usb disk? May 27 21:11:40 because we would still need the SD to boot May 27 21:11:57 and because i hear complaints all the time about the slow install process May 27 21:12:00 ogra: sure. but you would be able to have a much bigger rootfs May 27 21:12:09 ogra: (suggestion: jasper) i started on clown for that May 27 21:12:10 so i worked out that setup with cjwatson at UDS May 27 21:12:25 but folks complained about that approach and said we should use d-i like seeding May 27 21:12:36 at least cody complained if you remember May 27 21:15:22 ogra: what i would love to see is a feature that allows you to move a rootfs over to a plugged in usb disk and then boot from that May 27 21:15:50 asac, 11.04 ;) May 27 21:16:07 jasper/clown whatever can be enhanced May 27 21:16:14 ogra: hmm. you are a lagger ;) May 27 21:16:17 jk May 27 21:16:21 ok heading for lunch May 27 21:16:28 good night (hope you are gone when i am back) May 27 21:16:32 i need to use the same setup in 10.07 and 10.10 May 27 21:16:39 yeah, team call atm May 27 21:16:49 i'll fall asleep afterwards May 27 21:20:48 i get segfaults when rebooting :-( May 27 21:50:33 ogra: i get wlan0 no wireless extensions. May 27 21:50:42 anything weird in the kernel config that breaks wifi? May 27 21:50:54 the driver loads without error messages May 27 22:14:19 As anyone built the Maverick omap3 kernel ? May 27 22:14:58 ogra: you still on ? May 27 22:20:31 mpoirier, my own omap3 kernel is working in maverick, looking for something specific? May 27 22:20:55 rcn-ee: did you build it yourself ? May 27 22:21:25 no... my beagles did from the source i patched. ;) May 27 22:21:45 your beagles ? May 27 22:22:57 Yeah, my beagles.. kernel deb's here, http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/ source is at https://launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel (boot testd on all beagles, overo, igepv2, etc) May 27 22:35:23 rcn-ee: do you think your kernel would fix my wifi problem? May 27 22:36:33 xorAxAx, it depends... if they fixed the wifi upstream and ubuntu hasn't updated there kernel yet. then 'maybe' otherwise it's probally the same... May 27 22:38:05 oh.. just scrolled up.. yes.. i have wireless extensions enabled in mine... May 27 22:38:57 xorAxAx, the latest (about a week till i move it to stable tree) would be http://rcn-ee.net/deb/lucid/v2.6.34-dl5/ May 27 22:42:49 xorAxAx: what wifi chipset is that? May 27 22:46:43 ogra: i assume we wouldnt need to create the uimage etc. in /boot at all anymore? May 27 22:46:51 (looking at your mkimage scrip) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 28 03:00:14 2010