**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 07 02:59:57 2010 Jun 07 03:25:52 ndec: ping? Jun 07 07:11:49 moin Jun 07 08:14:50 ogra: how goes thumb2 on omap3/4? reliable works? Jun 07 08:14:53 Hi, is there some repository problem currently? trying to run the rootstock script, but get the following warning: "Couldn't download package lsb-base" Jun 07 08:15:28 hrw, seen no issues here Jun 07 08:16:10 hrw: no issue here with ubuntu or angstrom with thumb2 Jun 07 08:18:50 thx guys Jun 07 09:16:12 NCommander: pong Jun 07 09:25:54 * XorA has screwed up his sudoers file Jun 07 09:58:57 lool: hi, i have a question, maybe you can help: what do all the XB-Gstreamer-xxx fields mean ? I am making a new package for a gst plugin... Jun 07 10:12:32 XorA, use visudo thats why it exists :) Jun 07 10:14:08 or in worst situation reboot to /bin/bash Jun 07 10:14:29 well, with single user mode rather Jun 07 10:14:57 (the visudo comment wasnt about fixing, just about never breaking it ;) ) Jun 07 10:15:32 heh, lucky with these embedded system just pull out SD card, fix on desktop and put it back in :-) Jun 07 10:17:28 ogra: single user mode asks for password Jun 07 10:20:12 hrw, it doesnt Jun 07 10:20:24 unless you set a root passwprd Jun 07 10:20:46 if it does, thats clearly a bug Jun 07 10:21:34 ok, did not checked ubuntu way Jun 07 10:21:41 nasty it is then Jun 07 10:22:24 why ? Jun 07 11:10:53 moin Jun 07 13:02:12 hrm Jun 07 13:02:20 mcopy seems to prevent MLO from working Jun 07 13:34:46 * ogra sighs about CHS and partitioning Jun 07 13:35:16 ;D Jun 07 13:37:12 its funny, i can build images i dd to the SD but MLO isnt found Jun 07 13:37:28 CHS and partitioning are 100% identical to a booting SD Jun 07 13:39:57 ogra: what about the 'bootable' flag? Jun 07 13:40:05 its set Jun 07 13:40:13 as i said, its 100% identical Jun 07 13:40:50 ogra: is it possible it comes from the way the filesystem was created, then? Jun 07 13:40:51 bytesize, start and end of the partitions CHS values of the dd'ed image on the SD vs a natively created one etc Jun 07 13:41:17 well, i'm trying mkfs.vfat vs mkdosfs now Jun 07 13:41:22 ogra: also, the "position" of MLO on the filesystem (copied first or not) Jun 07 13:41:33 might make a difference but i dont really expect to Jun 07 13:41:44 i *only* copy MLO :) Jun 07 13:41:46 ogra: it is known to make a difference on OMAP3, sadle Jun 07 13:41:49 *sadly Jun 07 13:41:55 not even u-boot or anything Jun 07 13:42:01 ogra: hmm... Jun 07 13:42:49 ogra: I use 'mkfs.vfat -F 32' on OMAP3 Jun 07 13:42:58 ogra: don't know if this helps... Jun 07 13:43:10 thats what i used too here Jun 07 13:43:37 note though thst i create an empty partitioned image and then dd the filesystems in place Jun 07 13:46:36 hmm, no, mkdosfs didnt make any difference Jun 07 13:47:53 use omap3-sdcard.sh script? Jun 07 13:49:37 its been reported to me that once you copy the MLO 4/5 times for some reason omap3 stops seeing it Jun 07 13:49:50 its not an issue Ive seen personally Jun 07 13:50:12 I guess there is a bug in fat handling in omap3 somewhere Jun 07 13:51:59 yeah. i've seen that in the past too but after more than 4 or 5 copies. I think there's some limitations as to where in the directory table the MLO has to be. Jun 07 13:52:49 omap4 is much better in those aspects. :) Jun 07 13:58:04 hrw, thats not possible with images Jun 07 14:01:23 unless you will keep sdcard-header.bz2 somewhere Jun 07 14:01:56 and such header will have proper partition table so you just need to append ext234 partition after it Jun 07 14:02:57 hrw, i need to generate it from scratch Jun 07 14:04:19 what we usually do is to determine the size of the partitions, add space for the MBR, create an empty image and add a partition table ... Jun 07 14:04:40 .... then dd the filesystems to the place in the image where they have to be Jun 07 14:05:20 that works fine for all images we build in ubuntu buut somehow chokes on thesee Jun 07 14:06:01 what i dont get is that what ends up on the SD is identical to what i create with omap3-sdcard.sh Jun 07 14:06:19 so there shouldnt be a reason they dont boot Jun 07 15:27:43 WOHOO ! Jun 07 15:27:46 * ogra got it Jun 07 15:28:05 how silly Jun 07 15:28:30 ogra: let me guess, no header ? Jun 07 15:29:04 (The 8 bytes in front of x-loader) Jun 07 15:29:05 nah, apparently the blocksize isnt correct if you use dd to create the FS image, using mkdosfs -C gets me a working vfat Jun 07 15:29:19 ogra: oh, much more tricky then Jun 07 15:29:36 i used to do dd, then mkdosfs, then using mcopy to get MLO in place Jun 07 15:29:57 ignoring that mkdosfs vas a -C switch that creates the fat properly with the right blocksizes etc Jun 07 15:30:04 s/vas/has/ Jun 07 15:30:23 so i'm one step closer to preinstalled ubuntu images :) Jun 07 15:30:50 * ogra tries if that works on omap3 too Jun 07 15:32:23 hmm, how do i convince parted to show blocksizes Jun 07 15:34:30 grmbl, parted has a unit command that doesnt offer blocks at all Jun 07 16:25:34 ndec: GStreamer fields are used to automatically discover packages Jun 07 16:26:07 ndec: Ultimately, this allows totem to offer installing this or that package with codecs when you're trying to play an unsupported media Jun 07 16:27:51 ndec: This involves two things: mapping a codec/MIME type to an element name (I think that's in app-install-data, but I'm not sure), and then mapping an element name to the package it's in (e.g. apt-cache show gstreamer0.10-esd should show Gstreamer-Elements: esdsink, so if you're trying to install the package with the esdsink element, you can install that package) Jun 07 16:29:05 ndec: In fact, app-install-data just provides some aggregated information found in all other packages Jun 07 16:53:15 lool, ogra: hi guys, almost done with building ubuntu-desktop hardfp, using rootstock-native (using chroot not qemu), but got this problem http://paste.debian.net/76504/, any ideas how to fix this? Jun 07 16:53:53 you shouldnt need hal Jun 07 16:53:55 weird Jun 07 16:54:19 is that lucid ? Jun 07 16:54:57 hal is started by dbus now it doesnt come with an initscript Jun 07 16:55:12 no karmic Jun 07 16:55:18 ah Jun 07 16:55:39 might be a chroot issue Jun 07 16:55:41 next step is to build lucid, but I thought I'd at least complete base karmic install Jun 07 16:56:19 most likely, as services don't start -ie the system doesn't "boot" from the chroot, I just chroot in the dir Jun 07 16:56:26 hal had probs in the past running inside chroots, i know there were workarounds but i dont know if they are arch specific Jun 07 16:56:35 markos_, what all do you mount in the chroot? Jun 07 16:56:45 proc, dev/pts, sys iirc Jun 07 16:56:46 yes Jun 07 16:56:50 yeah, you should definately have proc Jun 07 16:57:03 dev and dev/pts? Jun 07 16:57:04 oh and -o bind /dev Jun 07 16:57:38 hm, no sorry Jun 07 16:57:41 just /dev/pts Jun 07 16:58:27 (well, rootstock-native does) Jun 07 16:59:39 markos_: -o rbind /dev || -o bind dev/pts Jun 07 17:01:39 hrw|gone: just uploaded buildcross 0.0.4, it has an undocumented option (--bootstrap-debsrc) which tries to build a base from Debian sources, but quite does not work (that's why it is undocumented) ;-) Enjoy! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 07 18:28:15 2010 Jun 07 18:29:42 this is the current list indeed Jun 07 18:33:13 twittling thumbs as the beagle goes to work... ;) didn't we have a qemu guy kinda interested in this bug... Jun 07 18:42:29 gregoiregentil, it's made it to the main package install phase (apt-get install "touchbook") it'll take anouther 30mins before all the packages are downloaded.. I'm gonna drive back to work, but i'll monitor it and then email you in an hour or two on what happend... Jun 07 18:42:43 Thanks Jun 07 18:46:40 gregoiregentil, hey Jun 07 18:46:50 hello Jun 07 18:47:29 i'm using your .32 kernel, i sthere any way to convince it to charge the battery ? Jun 07 18:48:24 rcn-ee, am I going to have a 2.6.35rc2 kernel tonight? :) Jun 07 18:48:25 lucid netbook runs awesome on it but its a bit annoying that i have to replace the sd and run angstrom to let the battery charge Jun 07 18:56:03 I wish AMD would make an ARM thingy with a Radeon. Jun 07 18:57:29 DanaG1 you mean copying nvidia ? Jun 07 18:57:37 yeah, but being more open. Jun 07 18:58:17 well, wait for maverick the TI situation will become a lot better Jun 07 19:21:53 ogra_tb, that sounds pleasantly ominous :D Jun 07 19:22:57 hehe Jun 07 21:59:00 zumbi: there's a strike tmrw, so i won't be at my workplace Jun 07 22:01:30 ogra: does https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-m-image-builds-without-root need a spec? I see that it already has workitems Jun 07 22:23:26 rcn-ee, you're not ignoring my cries are you? :) Jun 07 22:47:32 nope.. just wasn't home.... ;) 2.6.35-rc2 is building, it was queyed up last night.. http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/farm/log/ Jun 07 22:58:26 * cwillu_at_work hits refresh... occasionally Jun 07 23:02:23 * rcn-ee notes the script to copy the log file only runs every 2 minutes... ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 08 02:59:56 2010