**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 22 02:59:56 2010 Jul 22 04:20:33 long day Jul 22 07:17:47 morning Jul 22 07:37:14 morning Jul 22 08:12:52 cooloney: I updated the otg bug, take a look at it later Jul 22 08:17:20 Morning mythripk Jul 22 08:17:38 is there a list of supported omap3/4 machines? Jul 22 08:18:15 XorA, not yet since the kernel team is still looking into patces Jul 22 08:18:20 *patches Jul 22 08:18:34 hehe, suck it and see Jul 22 08:18:43 * XorA would love zoom3 and 4430sdp :-D Jul 22 08:18:49 XorA, safe bets are panda, beagle C4/XM and blaze Jul 22 08:19:14 blaze will need some tinkering with the bootloader on the image Jul 22 08:19:52 hey vincent Jul 22 08:19:55 i plan to provide a script that replaces u-boot and MLO with the ones you want for a target, the kernels should be generic enough to run on all the platforms Jul 22 08:20:20 that reminds me, wonder if u-boot for 4430 supports nand yet Jul 22 08:20:52 given that there are no devices with NAND, why would anyone enable it ? Jul 22 08:26:12 ogra: no devices with nand???? Jul 22 08:26:21 * XorA has a deskful of devices with nand Jul 22 08:26:47 4430sdp with NAND ??? Jul 22 08:27:59 * XorA thought it did Jul 22 08:28:46 * XorA has his hand hacked image on 4430 Jul 22 08:29:32 rsalveti: exactly, sorry for not syncing with your Jul 22 08:29:51 rsalveti: i tried build in the g_ether into the kernel Jul 22 08:30:02 the musb hub will be found Jul 22 08:30:12 cooloney: that will work, but I don't know if this is the "right" solution :-) Jul 22 08:30:44 don't know if building g_ether as built-in is going to affect something else Jul 22 08:30:45 rsalveti: yeah, because, i found there are 2 place to usb_add_hcd(musb_hcd) Jul 22 08:31:01 rsalveti: 1 is in host only mode Jul 22 08:31:05 yep Jul 22 08:31:12 2 is in the OTG mode and gadget init code Jul 22 08:31:49 but the gadget init code will be only called by the gadget upper level class driver when it start Jul 22 08:32:21 rsalveti: i tried the compile the musb as host only controller Jul 22 08:32:27 rsalveti: it works now Jul 22 08:32:37 at least host function Jul 22 08:32:39 cooloney: but why do you want as host-only? Jul 22 08:33:05 rsalveti: because i wanna test the usb_add_hcd was called in the first method Jul 22 08:34:24 rsalveti: when i built-in the g_ether, musb hub was found, but usb host function does not work Jul 22 08:34:47 cooloney: works when you put the otg cable, at least for me Jul 22 08:35:37 cooloney: both gadget and host mode starts to work fine Jul 22 08:38:06 rsalveti: ok, got it. Jul 22 08:38:41 cooloney: if you just change the g_ether as built-in everything should work just fine Jul 22 08:38:56 rsalveti: so for summary, if we wanna use the host mode of musb, we need to modprobe g_ether, right? Jul 22 08:39:01 cooloney: then we need to check if the same modification works for lucid Jul 22 08:39:08 cooloney: currently, yes Jul 22 08:39:09 rsalveti: yeah, yeah, that's what i want to do. Jul 22 08:39:30 rsalveti: but it failed, it makes me frustrated Jul 22 08:39:33 cooloney: because loading g_ether will initialize the gadget and host functionality of the otg chip Jul 22 08:40:54 rsalveti: exactly, Jul 22 08:41:08 * cooloney nods to rsalveti and shakes hands with rsalveti Jul 22 08:41:23 rsalveti: ok, let me try again. Jul 22 08:41:47 cooloney: ok :-) Jul 22 08:41:56 * rsalveti still needs to get a working lucid environment Jul 22 09:16:24 Is rootstock about to make a lucid rootfs? Jul 22 09:17:32 ogra ? Jul 22 09:17:57 able* Jul 22 09:20:11 It keeps failing at the second stage Jul 22 09:25:26 Jameswstubbs: yes, you can create a lucid rootfs with it Jul 22 09:25:53 Jameswstubbs: what kind of failure? qemu seg fault or just got stuck while doing the second stage? Jul 22 09:29:59 Stuck during second stage Jul 22 09:30:10 Well, when starting second stage Jul 22 09:30:32 You might be interested in this actually, ixproject.org :) Jul 22 09:31:03 My problem is my karmic rootfs uses an old synaptic module Jul 22 09:31:31 I tried to add the lucid repo to the karmic apt and tried to update the module, but got a fatal kernel panic Jul 22 09:31:49 I've decided to maybe try lucid, should still be compatible with armv6 shouldn't it? Jul 22 09:32:51 Jameswstubbs: No, Lucid and future releases are armv7. Jul 22 09:34:29 rsalveti: good news, i build in g_ether this time, it works Jul 22 09:35:08 cooloney: cool Jul 22 09:35:39 Jameswstubbs: please paste the rootstock log at the paste.ubuntu.com and send me the link Jul 22 09:35:50 rsalveti: but it looks like a design issue, i think the usb_add_hcd should be called in the early init code, not in the late init code in gadget Jul 22 09:36:00 Jameswstubbs: it all depends on how you're running it, as we have these 2 known issues Jul 22 09:36:13 cooloney: yep, that's what I think Jul 22 09:36:28 rsalveti: it is stupid to get host function by insmod a gadget class driver or build in it Jul 22 09:36:37 cooloney: haha, for sure :-) Jul 22 09:36:40 rsalveti: give me sometime to write a patch Jul 22 09:36:43 cooloney: that's why I was so mad yesterday Jul 22 09:37:00 rsalveti: haha, yeah, i was totally frustrated by that as you did Jul 22 09:37:25 cooloney: cool, take your time to write the proper patch and send it to linux-omap Jul 22 09:37:41 most of the musb maintainers are looking at that list Jul 22 09:37:46 Ok, isn't armv7 backwards compatible with v6? Jul 22 09:37:56 I'm installing a netinst of ubuntu lucid now Jul 22 09:38:11 I'll have to rerun rootstock then paste the log Jul 22 09:40:00 Jameswstubbs: armv7 is backards compatible hardware wise. But don't expect an armv6 system to run armv7 software. Jul 22 09:40:24 Hm, if lucid is indeed completely unsuitable for armv6, how would I go about upgrading the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. Jul 22 09:40:40 If I find the source code for the latest version Jul 22 09:40:56 And compile from within my karmic rootfs in qemu, would that work? Jul 22 09:41:56 Are the modules architecture dependant ? Jul 22 09:42:40 Jameswstubbs: What exactly are you trying to do? If you are running Karmic on armv7 hardware, then it is possible to upgrade to Lucid. But if your hardware is armv6 only, it won't work. Like trying to run x86_64 software on a Pentium. Jul 22 09:43:24 I'm porting ubuntu to the iPhone, I have a karmic rootfs fully up and running with wifi, xorg and xfce Jul 22 09:43:34 ixproject.org if you want a screenshot Jul 22 09:43:57 Having a look at my xorg logs, the iPhone multitouch screen uses a synaptic module Jul 22 09:44:10 But then says it cannot find a support touchpad Jul 22 09:45:46 Jameswstubbs: if you build it at Karmic it should work fine Jul 22 09:45:49 pastie.org/1054947 from line 192 down Jul 22 09:46:00 it's just that Lucid compiles everything for armv7 by default Jul 22 09:46:07 I'm a little familiar with ixproject.org. Unfortunately, the hardware just won't run software compiled for the new architecture. You can pull the source for the latest archive and rebuild it, but our stack is designed for armv7 starting with Lucid. Jul 22 09:46:30 I only started ixproject last week :S Maybe familiar with idroidproject Jul 22 09:46:45 GrueMaster: I think that's what I'll do Jul 22 09:46:54 Jameswstubbs: you could get stuff from debian if you like, it's armv5 compatible Jul 22 09:46:58 I'll hunt down the source and compile from within qemu Jul 22 09:47:12 The iPhone is armv6 Jul 22 09:47:13 Best of luck on your endeavours. Jul 22 09:47:23 I've had a debian armel rootfs running happily Jul 22 09:47:30 I simply like Ubuntu :) Jul 22 09:47:39 Debian is still armv4 iirc. Jul 22 09:47:45 Thanks GrueMaster, I've needed luck up to now and I'll keep needing it Jul 22 09:47:59 heh. :) Jul 22 09:48:10 GrueMaster: I simply used multistrap with debian squeeze Jul 22 09:48:13 Worked a charm Jul 22 09:48:17 cool Jul 22 09:48:52 I have someone working on USB drivers aswell Jul 22 09:49:02 Should hopefully have USB host mode running soon Jul 22 09:50:29 Jameswstubbs: awesome, love your work, Jul 22 09:50:41 Thank you :) Jul 22 09:50:54 although i've sold my iphone and switch to N1 Jul 22 09:51:06 I hope to have touch sorted within a week and a release should be out soon Jul 22 09:51:28 but if Ubuntu is ready for iphone, i will grab my girl friend's iphone and force her switch to Ubuntu for iphone Jul 22 09:51:33 I don't blame you N1 is an awesome phone, only reason I'm still using iPhone is becasue Im stuck in contract for another year Jul 22 09:51:54 cooloney: I wouldn't recommend it immediatley, it wont be ready for prime time Jul 22 09:52:04 It needs stripping down and made more mobile friendly Jul 22 09:52:12 Im think of using thje matchbox window manager Jul 22 09:52:14 Jameswstubbs: yeah, fully understand. i am waiting for iphone4 too, and practicing the holding style suggested by Jobs Jul 22 09:52:39 Also power management needs to be implemented, the battery wears down in less than 2 hours :/ Jul 22 09:52:51 Jameswstubbs: so how about the kernel in your Ubuntu iphone image Jul 22 09:53:00 Jameswstubbs: is the kernel from planetbeing? Jul 22 09:53:14 Yep, a couple of small changes concerning USB gadget Jul 22 09:53:20 But essentially the stock kernel Jul 22 09:54:04 The kernel is not in the image, it's stored on the "host" partition and chainloads the rootfs using initrd Jul 22 09:54:13 Havn't been able to get initramfs working with the kernel Jul 22 09:54:15 Not sure why Jul 22 09:54:34 I have a 40 second boot anyway, so It's not a massive concern Jul 22 09:54:38 Jameswstubbs: yeah, Jul 22 09:56:08 Jameswstubbs: so is the Ubuntu image only for 3GS or older machine Jul 22 09:56:34 We don't have an iboot exploit for the 3gs yet, so development hasn't even started hardware wise Jul 22 09:56:39 This is for the 2g and 3g Jul 22 09:58:23 I don't own the 2g so havn't been able to test :-/ the only difference is in how the firmware is loaded by the initrd. Jul 22 10:07:43 I'm off, thanks for the help :) Jul 22 10:54:23 mythripk: I'm back Jul 22 11:05:54 apw: bug 608674 and bug 603087 Jul 22 11:05:58 Launchpad bug 608674 in linux (Ubuntu) "provide packaging rules in linux-source binary package (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/608674 Jul 22 11:05:59 Launchpad bug 603087 in linux (Ubuntu) "Allow to build just linux-libc-dev (affects: 1) (heat: 270)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/603087 Jul 22 12:22:27 rsalveti, dd if=/dev/zero of=livecd.${FSS}.ext2 bs=1024 count=0 seek=$size Jul 22 12:22:41 rsalveti, size=$(($(du -ks ${ROOT} | cut -f1) + (10240))) Jul 22 12:29:01 ogra: What monitor do you have? The one that _just works_ Jul 22 12:34:38 lag, samsung syncmaster T240 Jul 22 12:47:57 ogra: Hey, did you folks change from .bz2 to .gz recently for omap images? Jul 22 12:49:13 vstehle: robclark: http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/clutter_0_8 Jul 22 12:49:30 the call is EGL_NOKIA_texture_from_pixmap Jul 22 12:49:40 at clutter/eglx/clutter-eglx-texture-pixmap.c Jul 22 12:52:04 rsalveti: thx Jul 22 12:59:23 lool, yes Jul 22 12:59:53 lool, bz2 is BAD with rsync, .gz works with rsyncing images Jul 22 13:35:34 hello everybody Jul 22 13:35:57 now I'm definitely able to run the image from the rootstock! Jul 22 13:36:42 but I've some problem with udev and mmcblock and mtdblock... udev does not create the device for the partition automatically... Jul 22 13:37:12 anybody has a similar problem? Jul 22 14:11:19 lool, yes, bz2 wasnt rsyncable, gzip has the special flag to make the files usable with rsync Jul 22 14:50:01 hey all.. I am trying to bring up ubuntu on Blaze (OMAP4) using http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Get_started_with_ubuntu_on_omap4 but it is locking up at boot up has any one seen this? Jul 22 14:53:27 ogra: But doesn't it contain a filesystem? Jul 22 14:53:47 lool, sure, whats the issue with that ? Jul 22 14:54:47 ogra: Well filesystems aren't very rsync friendly across runs Jul 22 14:54:58 I have the issue with cloud images Jul 22 14:55:12 they almost don't compress with rsync, despite being built with gzip --rsyncable Jul 22 14:57:08 i didnt test to zsync yet Jul 22 14:57:17 since we only have one image thats gz yet Jul 22 15:10:11 we'll see if there is improvement once i could test :) Jul 22 15:23:27 guys, anybody have problem with ubuntu lucid and udev for the automatic creation of /dev/mmcblk0p* and /dev/mtdblock* devices? Jul 22 15:23:43 nope, works fine here Jul 22 15:24:40 Hey guys... just to let you know OMAPpedia is having a tutorial hour next week covering Uboot and Ubuntu. Visit: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/Main_Page. The time may be a bit late for some of you but we are trying to find a good time for everyone. orga will be a guest speaker for this session. If anyone is interested in doing a session in Aug. please ping me :D Jul 22 15:25:16 I've created a lucid minimal image with rootstock but when the system starts, I don't see any /dev/mmcblk0p* and /dev/mtdblock* Jul 22 15:25:53 furibondox: are you able to see the other devices that are created by udev? Jul 22 15:26:03 yes Jul 22 15:26:05 furibondox: what kernel are you using? Jul 22 15:26:10 2.6.29 Jul 22 15:26:21 furibondox: from where? Jul 22 15:26:45 the same kernel works fine with a jaunty distribution created by my own Jul 22 15:26:58 from TI PSP Jul 22 15:27:29 I think the problem is with the udev and lucid Jul 22 15:28:14 http://paste.ubuntu.com/467568/ Jul 22 15:28:32 as you can see the partitions are present... but udev does not create the device! Jul 22 15:29:40 furibondox: could be a bug with udev with this kernel Jul 22 15:30:15 may be... Jul 22 15:30:42 this is what I see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/467569/ Jul 22 15:31:24 furibondox: you could try to debug udev, to see what it detects normally in your case Jul 22 20:03:47 hi, I am trying to install ubuntu karmic on bb using the method specified in http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntuKarmic , it boots the kernel,after login and password I get stucked with a prompt Jul 22 20:04:10 there is any command to install from there? Jul 22 20:18:54 lem_, personally I'm using linaro's alpha2 on my bb - https://wiki.linaro.org/Source/ImageInstallation Jul 22 20:22:29 tgall_foo: hardly on-topic in this channel. Jul 22 20:28:54 thanks for the idea, I will try that Jul 22 20:33:41 ojn: given the amount of maverick packages in it, it's fairly on topic ;-) Jul 22 22:00:11 ojn: Hey, just curious, are you doing some upstream kernel OMAP work? are you doing that on top of Ubuntu? Jul 22 22:00:46 lool: I'm not doing much omap work these days. I've spent more time with tegra lately. And no, given my new project and employer, I am not doing much on top of ubuntu. :) Jul 22 22:01:08 omap is still around as a side project, but I haven't spent any serious cycles on it lately Jul 22 22:01:09 ojn: Oh, which employer is that? :) Jul 22 22:01:40 lool: I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 23 02:59:56 2010