**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 11 02:59:57 2010
Aug 11 05:20:37 <dyfet> this is a lovely day
Aug 11 06:53:12 <lag> Morning ogra
Aug 11 06:58:38 <dyfet> i am not sure he is up yet
Aug 11 07:00:24 <lag> lazy blighter
Aug 11 07:01:04 <lag> dyfet: David, maybe you could help?
Aug 11 07:01:18 <dyfet> maybe
Aug 11 07:01:22 <lag> I am trying to run update-initramfs from a chroot
Aug 11 07:01:37 <dyfet> hmm...
Aug 11 07:01:59 <lag> What do I need to make it work?
Aug 11 07:02:57 <dyfet> well, for other odd things in chroot, I would suggest bind mounting /dev, /proc, and /sys. but I am not sure if that is helpful for this.
Aug 11 07:03:27 <lag> How do I know of they are bind mounted or not/
Aug 11 07:03:29 <lag> ?
Aug 11 07:04:01 <dyfet> well, from outside the chroot, you can do "mount" to see what is mounted
Aug 11 07:04:24 <cooloney> lag: are you reviewing the L24.9 kernel release from TI?
Aug 11 07:04:57 <lag> cooloney: I'm happy to
Aug 11 07:05:07 <lag> cooloney: But I haven't had an email
Aug 11 07:06:01 <lag> dyfet: I'm not sure this will help me
Aug 11 07:06:19 <lag> cooloney: How do you test your bespoke kernels with the daily build?
Aug 11 07:06:38 <dyfet> I have used that for things like grub from chroot, but I am not sure if it is helpful for running update-initramfs from chroot either...
Aug 11 07:07:05 <lag> dyfet: I think I just need to know how to run it
Aug 11 07:07:11 <lag> Where does it get it's modules from?
Aug 11 07:07:16 <cooloney> lag: oh, i assume ndec told you the git tree for that L24.9 kernel in irc
Aug 11 07:07:45 <cooloney> lag: hmmm, what's bespoke kernel?
Aug 11 07:07:57 <lag> cooloney: bespoke == your own
Aug 11 07:08:18 <lag> cooloney: Not yet
Aug 11 07:08:33 <cooloney> lag: now, i just build kernel and flash it into my SD card with a maverick rootfs built from rootstock
Aug 11 07:08:39 <cooloney> lag: how about you?
Aug 11 07:08:50 <lag> cooloney: I don't
Aug 11 07:09:15 <lag> cooloney: I'm trying to, but it means I have to re-create the initramfs from within the chroot
Aug 11 07:09:35 <lag> cooloney: This, I am having difficulty with
Aug 11 07:10:22 <hrw> morning
Aug 11 07:10:28 <cooloney> lag: yeah, i also installed a daily image on another SD card.
Aug 11 07:10:47 <cooloney> lag: so if I wanna test it, i can use that SD card.
Aug 11 07:10:48 <dyfet> cooloney: I do much the same...
Aug 11 07:10:53 <lag> But I'd like to test them in unison
Aug 11 07:11:22 <lag> New kernel w daily build rootfs
Aug 11 07:12:06 <lag> cooloney: It's not a problem for you, as the daily build boots
Aug 11 07:12:12 <lag> But it doesn't on XM
Aug 11 07:12:35 <cooloney> lag: oh, too bad, XM looks scary to me
Aug 11 07:12:45 <lag> I need to re-create the uImage and uInitrd from the get-go
Aug 11 07:12:57 <lag> cooloney: Not scary, just a pain
Aug 11 07:14:10 <cooloney> lag: how about just boot uImage, use 'noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2' in kernel cmdline to skip uInitrd
Aug 11 07:14:38 <cooloney> i mean for testing kernel booting and some bugs which can be found in console.
Aug 11 07:15:22 <lag> cooloney: No - some of the issues are; boots fine with rootstock, doesn't boot with daily build
Aug 11 07:15:36 <cooloney> lag: oh yeah, i c
Aug 11 07:15:40 <lag> cooloney: Some issues only surface when using the daily build
Aug 11 07:16:05 <lag> cooloney: I need to create a uInitrd for my 'bespoke' kernel
Aug 11 07:16:13 <dyfet> I think I will try getting some sleep
Aug 11 07:16:22 <lag> dyfet: :)
Aug 11 07:16:29 <lag> dyfet: Night David
Aug 11 07:16:32 <cooloney> dyfet: good night, have a nice dream
Aug 11 07:16:45 <cooloney> don't dream of XM
Aug 11 07:17:08 <lag> cooloney: The term you're looking for is "sweet dreams"
Aug 11 07:17:46 <lag> Okay I'll have to wait for ogra or rsalveti, as they seem to know a little about initramfs'
Aug 11 07:18:20 <cooloney> lag: yeah, actually the uInitrd i am using still comes from rsalveti
Aug 11 07:18:45 <cooloney> lag: i just updated a bug tracker you pointed me a patch yesterday
Aug 11 07:19:17 <lag> cooloney: I can't take credit for that, you have to thank rcn-ee
Aug 11 07:19:42 <lag> cooloney: I saw your ACK on linux-omap
Aug 11 07:19:50 <cooloney> lag: yeah, rcn-ee is robert?
Aug 11 07:19:59 <cooloney> rcn-ee: thanks a lot
Aug 11 07:20:10 <cooloney> lag: yeah, just tested on my board
Aug 11 07:20:30 <lag> cooloney: Yes, that's Robert
Aug 11 07:20:48 <cooloney> i think the patch author stanley.miao might be in China who works for windriver
Aug 11 07:21:11 <lag> stanley.miao@windriver.com
Aug 11 07:21:16 <lag> I'd say you're right :)
Aug 11 07:24:39 <cooloney> lag: i found there are hundreds patches from TI's L24.9 release
Aug 11 07:24:53 <cooloney> lag: mission impossible for us to review all of them
Aug 11 07:25:20 <lag> cooloney: With the last lot, did you go through them all individually?
Aug 11 07:26:13 <cooloney> lag: no, just reviewed several
Aug 11 07:26:31 <lag> cooloney: What about the 200+ ones you received?
Aug 11 07:26:33 <cooloney> lag: i plan to add our ubuntu packaging stuff firstly
Aug 11 07:26:47 <cooloney> lag: OMG, you don't know that?
Aug 11 07:26:59 <lag> ?
Aug 11 07:27:11 <cooloney> lag: i pushed them out and tim merged them as 903.7 release in ti-omap4 tree
Aug 11 07:27:31 <cooloney> L24.9 is new release which is based on 2.6.35
Aug 11 07:27:31 <lag> Yes, but you must have reviewed them first
Aug 11 07:28:02 <cooloney> lag: oh, i fixed lots of codings style issue
Aug 11 07:28:33 <lag> Yes, but did you thumb through and review them all individually?
Aug 11 07:28:53 <cooloney> reviewed most of them not all of them
Aug 11 07:29:11 <lag> And how many hundred are there in this release?
Aug 11 07:29:12 <cooloney> yeah, but just quick review.
Aug 11 07:29:16 <lag> Do you have the link?
Aug 11 07:29:24 <cooloney> i guess 900 or more
Aug 11 07:29:31 <lag> JC
Aug 11 07:29:41 * lag falls on the floor!
Aug 11 07:29:43 <cooloney> and still increasing
Aug 11 07:29:51 <cooloney> 1 sec, man
Aug 11 07:29:59 <lag> Well you'll have fun this those
Aug 11 07:30:02 * lag leaves
Aug 11 07:30:29 * cooloney grabs lag back, 
Aug 11 07:30:31 <cooloney> http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-omap4.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/L24.9
Aug 11 07:30:36 <lag> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Aug 11 07:31:38 <cooloney> lag: come on. hehe,
Aug 11 07:32:18 * cooloney brb 
Aug 11 07:32:24 <lag> How do you know there are 900?
Aug 11 07:32:27 <lag> Are there stats?
Aug 11 07:33:17 <cooloney> lag: i just wanna scare you
Aug 11 08:33:45 <lag> nec: Good morning
Aug 11 08:44:45 <ogra> lag, whats your prob ?
Aug 11 08:45:11 <lag> ogra: What's your problem?
Aug 11 08:45:17 <lag> ogra: ;)
Aug 11 08:45:31 <ogra> oh, dont get me started :)
Aug 11 08:45:41 <ogra> i mean your initramfs issue
Aug 11 08:45:42 <lag> ogra: I want to create an uInitrd that will work with the daily build
Aug 11 08:45:58 <ogra> what did you do so far
Aug 11 08:46:12 <lag> Create kernel.deb
Aug 11 08:46:19 <lag> Create uImage
Aug 11 08:46:41 <lag> Extract kernel.deb (before create uImage)
Aug 11 08:46:46 <lag> ?
Aug 11 08:46:50 <ogra> install qemu-arm-static
Aug 11 08:46:56 <lag> Where?
Aug 11 08:46:57 <ogra> (dont extract the deb
Aug 11 08:47:09 <ogra> on a machine of your choice
Aug 11 08:47:19 <ogra> one you can be root on
Aug 11 08:47:21 <lag> I am in a chroot
Aug 11 08:47:30 <ogra> ah, you are in a chroot already
Aug 11 08:47:33 <ogra> k
Aug 11 08:47:40 <lag> Yep
Aug 11 08:47:40 <ogra> is proc mounted ?
Aug 11 08:47:41 <lag> :)
Aug 11 08:47:50 <ogra> update-initramfs needs it
Aug 11 08:48:25 <lag> proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
Aug 11 08:48:29 <ogra> so if you mounted proc and are in the chroot, just dpkg -i the .deb you have
Aug 11 08:48:51 <ogra> that should run update-initramfs from the postinstall script
Aug 11 08:48:56 <lag> I don't want to install it into the chroot
Aug 11 08:49:04 <ogra> why ?
Aug 11 08:49:10 <ogra> its just a chroot
Aug 11 08:49:13 <lag> Because I am on the build server
Aug 11 08:49:39 <lag> The build server has chroot to build in - I don't want to mess it up
Aug 11 08:49:40 <ogra> well, you can uninstall it afterwards
Aug 11 08:49:45 <ogra> k
Aug 11 08:50:12 <lag> Can't I dpkg -i <somewhere else>
Aug 11 08:50:15 <ogra> so: dpkg -x <path to deb> /
Aug 11 08:50:24 <lag> Root?
Aug 11 08:50:26 <ogra> then manually run update-initramfs
Aug 11 08:50:31 <ogra> sure root
Aug 11 08:50:47 <lag> dpkg -x <path to deb> .
Aug 11 08:50:51 <lag> Which I already did
Aug 11 08:51:02 <lag> <lag> Extract kernel.deb
Aug 11 08:51:14 <ogra> after you are done remove /lib/modules/$kver and the files in /boot
Aug 11 08:51:31 <ogra> well, . wont help
Aug 11 08:51:44 <lag> update-initramfs is stupid
Aug 11 08:51:44 <ogra> update-initramfs needs the files in the right places
Aug 11 08:51:51 <lag> ---^
Aug 11 08:52:08 <lag> update-initramfs -b ./boot
Aug 11 08:52:09 <lag> ?
Aug 11 08:52:17 <ogra> its not designed for cross building, its awesome in doing for what it is designed
Aug 11 08:52:31 <lag> Well it should be amended
Aug 11 08:52:36 <ogra> -b will only set the output dir
Aug 11 08:53:31 * ogra would just install the deb and purge it afterwards
Aug 11 08:53:43 <lag> touch /boot/file
Aug 11 08:53:43 <lag> /usr/bin/touch: cannot touch `/boot/file': Permission denied
Aug 11 08:53:58 <ogra> arent you root ?
Aug 11 08:54:06 <lag> Nope
Aug 11 08:54:11 <ogra> you need to be
Aug 11 08:54:46 <ogra> if you are really that scared to break the build chroot, i'd copy the deb to a local machine and just do it there
Aug 11 08:56:47 <ogra> lol
Aug 11 08:56:55 * ogra has never seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelForIdiots before
Aug 11 08:57:07 <ogra> "The kernel team are geniuses with brains the size of planes ..."
Aug 11 08:57:10 <ogra> HAHAHAHA
Aug 11 08:58:17 <lag> I hope that's not a jaunt on my information procurement!
Aug 11 08:58:26 <ogra> nah
Aug 11 08:58:27 <lag> We all have to learn
Aug 11 08:58:27 <hrw> omg...
Aug 11 08:58:38 <ogra> i just ran across that page
Aug 11 08:59:02 <ogra> the comment not related to anyone in this room
Aug 11 08:59:05 <hrw> I prefer "make-kpkg kernel-image" in git linux tree instead
Aug 11 08:59:22 <ogra> well, but thats not what a buildd does
Aug 11 08:59:35 <hrw> buildd does "dpkg-buildpackage"
Aug 11 08:59:49 <hrw> as it does with other pacakges
Aug 11 08:59:59 <ogra> yeah
Aug 11 09:00:22 <apw> ogra, keybuk is a wag sometimes
Aug 11 09:00:42 <ogra> looking at that page though i wonder if its not also missing the disabling of the module version check
Aug 11 09:00:44 <hrw> after reading that wiki page I think that I need KernelForHrwOrOthersWhichDoNotWantToFollowIdiotsVersion ;D
Aug 11 09:00:56 <ogra> heh
Aug 11 09:01:08 <apw> yeah the naming is somewhat unfortuanate :)
Aug 11 09:01:39 <hrw> ubuntu kernel rules are nice but as long as you do not want to change something ;D
Aug 11 09:02:10 <hrw> those abi, configs etc stuffs
Aug 11 09:02:44 <hrw> for years with debian I just had to do "git pull;make-kpkg kernel_image" to get nice kernel for my machine
Aug 11 09:02:58 <hrw> but this was out-of-debian kernel
Aug 11 09:46:12 <lag> Morning ndec
Aug 11 09:46:21 <ndec> lag: morning
Aug 11 09:46:39 <lag> ndec: How are you today?
Aug 11 09:46:46 <ndec> lag: fine. thx
Aug 11 09:46:58 <lag> ndec: (I'm buttering you up for bad news) ;)
Aug 11 09:47:11 <ndec> lag: that's what i thought ;-)
Aug 11 09:47:22 <ndec> lag: and I think i know what you are going to say next...
Aug 11 09:47:35 <lag> ndec: Have a stab at it ...
Aug 11 09:48:12 <ndec> lag: kernel does not boot.
Aug 11 09:49:10 <lag> Nope
Aug 11 09:49:14 <lag> I haven't got that far
Aug 11 09:49:28 <lag> Or rather, my checks haven't gone that far
Aug 11 09:49:31 <lag> grep ERROR checkpatch.txt | wc -l
Aug 11 09:49:31 <lag> 2820
Aug 11 09:49:51 <lag> 2820 errors in those patches
Aug 11 09:49:57 <ndec> lag: yes, I am reading bryan email...
Aug 11 09:50:05 <lag> Oh, he's sent it already
Aug 11 09:52:33 <ndec> lag: i am trying to understand why we ended up with this...
Aug 11 09:53:34 <lag> ndec: Have you 'brain grep'ed the checkpatch.txt yet
Aug 11 09:54:14 <ndec> lag: how do you 'brain grep', is there a command for this, or perhaps a package ;-)
Aug 11 09:54:54 <lag> Yes, many; emacs, vi, less, cat, kate, gedit, nano, pico ...
Aug 11 09:55:02 <lag> ;)
Aug 11 09:57:20 <ndec> lag: plain grep is quite nice too...
Aug 11 09:58:09 <lag> Yep, well the command I posted above should help
Aug 11 09:58:23 <lag> You still have to 'brain grep' the output
Aug 11 10:01:44 <ndec> lag: i will look into this internally to see what can be done. I will follow up on bryan's email.
Aug 11 10:01:58 <lag> ndec: No problem
Aug 11 10:02:08 <ndec> lag: as of today, this kernel will not boot on your panda, only blaze. which h/w do you have?
Aug 11 10:02:27 <lag> ndec: I'll be waiting to review when the errors (and warnings ;) ) have been corrected
Aug 11 10:02:51 <ndec> lag: well, let's target 11.10, and not 10.10 then ;-)
Aug 11 10:03:50 <lag> ndec: That troubles me a little - there are some patches in there which I need to close bugs (particularly ones from robclark and mythripk)
Aug 11 10:06:16 <mythripk> lag: I guess the patch from me and rob should not cause any issues on panda and can be pulled
Aug 11 13:12:43 <rsalveti> morning
Aug 11 13:13:39 <dyfet> morning is for coffee
Aug 11 13:13:47 <pcacjr> rsalveti: morning
Aug 11 13:14:49 <pcacjr> dyfet: not at all
Aug 11 13:57:59 <rsalveti> lag: did you manage to install the deb package into your chroot and generate the new initrd.img?
Aug 11 13:58:11 <rsalveti> I think you just need /dev and /proc mounted at your chroot
Aug 11 13:59:43 <ogra> dev isnt needed
Aug 11 13:59:49 <ogra> but you need proc
Aug 11 14:05:50 <rsalveti> ogra: I think when installing the package, or generating the initrd.img someone tries to write to /dev/null or something like that
Aug 11 14:06:09 <rsalveti> I had a problem with it in the past, so I generally mount it :-)
Aug 11 14:06:14 <ogra>  /dev/null should be available, debootstrap creates it
Aug 11 14:06:23 <ogra> as well as console
Aug 11 14:13:05 <jkridner1> ds2, all: I can't get passed this error when I try to boot an initramfs (not compiled into the kernel): No filesystem could mount root, tried:  ext3 ext2 ext4 squashfs vfat msdos
Aug 11 14:13:32 <jkridner1> before that, I get RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0
Aug 11 15:13:49 <rsavoye> does the ARM have branch delay slots after loads and stores like other RISC architectures ?
Aug 11 15:53:05 <GrueMaster> ogra: Have you looked into why oem-config dies?  I have been trying to figure out what is going on all day yesterday.  What I am seeing is some of the log files in /var/log are corrupted, and mounting the pre-installed image now fails for me (worked on previous images).
Aug 11 16:05:49 <ogra_cmpc> GrueMaster, not beyond what i said already, while it tries to start it dies but you only get the tty back if you hit enter
Aug 11 16:06:22 <ogra_cmpc> and the ubiquity logs only show that it found an already running X server
Aug 11 16:06:34 <GrueMaster> I don't get oem-config at all, just an X background & mouse.
Aug 11 16:06:40 <ogra_cmpc> right
Aug 11 16:06:47 <ogra_cmpc> wait 5min and then hit enter
Aug 11 16:07:06 <ogra_cmpc> oem-config drops you into a root shell if it cant run
Aug 11 16:07:29 <ogra_cmpc> but apparently the console isnt shown unless you hit enter in X
Aug 11 16:08:14 <GrueMaster> Ah.
Aug 11 16:08:43 <ogra_cmpc> how did you shut down before you saw corrupted logfiles ?
Aug 11 16:08:50 <ogra_cmpc> just pull the plug ?
Aug 11 16:09:22 <GrueMaster> Switched to tty0 and did a <ctrl><alt><del>.
Aug 11 16:09:33 <GrueMaster> That triggers reboot.
Aug 11 16:09:42 <GrueMaster> More graceful.
Aug 11 16:09:46 <ogra_cmpc> (the SD card speedup results in less sync calls to write data to disk, if you dont shut down properly it might not have synced the data in cache)
Aug 11 16:10:18 <ogra_cmpc> hmm, a proper shutdown shouldnt result in a corrupted card
Aug 11 16:10:24 <GrueMaster> It should have.  It goes through the normal shutdown this way.
Aug 11 16:10:45 <ogra_cmpc> yes
Aug 11 16:10:47 <GrueMaster> Card doesn't appear corrupted.  e2fsck reports no errors.
Aug 11 16:10:56 <ogra_cmpc> weird
Aug 11 16:11:12 <GrueMaster> But the logs are off.  Mainly Xorg.0.log and a couple of others.
Aug 11 16:11:17 <ogra_cmpc> then i dont get why you see corrupt logs nor why it doesnt mount
Aug 11 16:11:25 <GrueMaster> I'm retrying to I don't have a copy atm.
Aug 11 16:11:50 <ogra_cmpc> the vfat should never be automounted after first boto btw
Aug 11 16:11:51 <GrueMaster> It may have been my desktop.  I had to reboot this morning due to updates.
Aug 11 16:12:02 <ogra_cmpc> *boot
Aug 11 16:12:06 <GrueMaster> I know.  It isn't.
Aug 11 16:12:17 <ogra_cmpc> the rootfs should though
Aug 11 16:12:27 <GrueMaster> That's what I was looking at.
Aug 11 16:13:14 <GrueMaster> But it may have been my desktop.  I'll know more after a bit.  I'm reimaging my SD now.
Aug 11 16:13:21 <ogra_cmpc> k
Aug 11 16:14:27 <GrueMaster>  Looks like I can mount the rootfs on the img file again.  Seriously thinking my desktop had gone south now.
Aug 11 16:14:33 <GrueMaster> weird.
Aug 11 16:14:35 <ogra_cmpc> hmm
Aug 11 16:32:26 <GrueMaster> ogra_cmpc: I thought you had fixed the hostname issue?
Aug 11 16:32:35 <ogra_cmpc> not yet
Aug 11 16:32:42 <GrueMaster> ok
Aug 11 16:39:42 <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  Looks like there was a new ubiquity release after Alpha 3.
Aug 11 16:40:04 <ogra_cmpc> several fixes today, yes
Aug 11 16:42:40 <GrueMaster> today?  I am looking at Aug 6 release.
Aug 11 16:42:48 <ogra_cmpc> hmm
Aug 11 16:42:51 <GrueMaster> Guess I will have to wait.
Aug 11 16:43:18 <ogra_cmpc> i think evan uploaded a slightly broken version before going on vacation
Aug 11 16:43:28 <ogra_cmpc> i saw riddell complain today
Aug 11 16:44:12 <ogra_cmpc> so our brokeness might be related
Aug 11 16:44:20 <GrueMaster> Well, I found an error in the logs.  Went into a shell like you said.  Have a GTKWarning:  Can't open Display.
Aug 11 16:45:12 <ogra_cmpc> i think you should try adding debug-ubiquity to the kernel cmdline
Aug 11 16:45:22 <ogra_cmpc> that should spit out more
Aug 11 16:46:11 <GrueMaster> Will do.
Aug 11 16:46:23 <ogra_cmpc> the two fixes uploaded today were related to python-webkit/-vte dependencies
Aug 11 16:46:43 <ogra_cmpc> might be that we hit the very same issue but dont see the actual error
Aug 11 16:48:53 <GrueMaster> Ouch.  I have a basset hound puppy attacking my bare feet when I try to work on the panda.
Aug 11 16:49:20 <ogra_cmpc> heh
Aug 11 16:49:31 <ogra_cmpc> you got a new dog ?
Aug 11 16:49:53 <GrueMaster> No, he's almost 2 now.  We've had him almost a year.
Aug 11 16:49:59 <ogra_cmpc> ah
Aug 11 16:50:27 <GrueMaster> But I put a blanket for him under my side desk that has the panda & dove work spaces.
Aug 11 16:51:20 <GrueMaster> And he has huge paws.
Aug 11 17:37:00 <lag> Does anyone know how to mount HDDs once in a schroot?
Aug 11 17:51:43 <ework> mattman, so I got ubuntu working
Aug 11 17:53:18 <ework> mattman, I got ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, and linaro all working using your kernel and the stock kernel from ARM.  What I was missing was to setup ttyAMA0 for login so I had no idea it was working.  I wrote some bullets of how I got 10.04 on the board that I would like to add to the wiki but they are kind of crude right now.
Aug 11 17:53:53 <GrueMaster> lag: make sure to mount none /dev -t devtmpfs for the drives to show up.  Then they should mount.
Aug 11 17:56:16 <lag> GrueMaster: bingo!
Aug 11 17:56:26 <lag> GrueMaster: Phew! Thanks for that
Aug 11 17:56:32 <GrueMaster> np.
Aug 11 17:57:08 <lag> Are there any scripts which are run on entry to the schroot - I'd like to place that line in there
Aug 11 17:57:15 <lag> Or is it okay to put it in the fstab?
Aug 11 17:57:56 <GrueMaster> I think that is done by init on boot normally.
Aug 11 17:58:28 <lag> Oh, so when I restart my machine, it will just work?
Aug 11 17:58:38 <lag> I can't see that myself :)
Aug 11 17:59:17 <GrueMaster> it should just work on boot.  Running a chroot environment is a bit different.
Aug 11 18:12:32 <lag> Phew!
Aug 11 18:12:42 <lag> The answer:
Aug 11 18:13:06 <lag> In /etc/schroot/mount-defaults:
Aug 11 18:13:25 <lag> /home/lag   /home/lag	 none	rw,bind	    0       0
Aug 11 18:13:49 <lag>  /dev            /dev             none   rw,bind     0       0
Aug 11 18:13:52 <lag> :D
Aug 11 18:24:37 <mattman> ework: sorry, stepped away for a moment. glad to hear your up and running.
Aug 11 18:25:17 <ework> mattman, I was working on cleaning up my instructions on installing ubuntu 10.04 so I can post them on the wiki.  I already logged in through launchpad so it looks like I have edit permissions
Aug 11 18:26:04 <mattman> ework: great, i'll be looking for your additions.
Aug 11 18:59:30 <hrw> I love oom on c3
Aug 11 18:59:52 <hrw> need to finally dist-upgrade it to fresh maverick
Aug 11 19:03:09 <hrw> it is amazing how slow beagleboard C3 is when nothing runs on it + ssh session
Aug 11 19:03:43 <hrw> nothing = NM+dbus+wpa-supplicant+modem-manager
Aug 11 19:04:00 <rcn-ee> hrw, put a nice fast usb harddrive with some swap.. ;)
Aug 11 19:04:18 <hrw> rcn-ee: such bare system should fit in 256MB ram
Aug 11 19:05:05 <hrw> and 0.5GB swap is on pata hdd on usb
Aug 11 19:45:20 <ework> mattman, have you been able to get X working?
Aug 11 19:45:41 <ework> mattman, the instructions I'm working on now is just getting the base system up and running
Aug 11 19:46:25 <mattman> ework: i am using mostly the base system also
Aug 11 19:47:00 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: didn't generate the kernel with the reclaim-related patches yet because they require more patches that are at the akpm's tree
Aug 11 19:47:15 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: and the original author is still discussing the patches upstream
Aug 11 19:47:34 <ework> mattman, I suppose it should work with some form of framebuffer driver but haven't looked into that yet.  I did and apt-get of ubuntu-desktop after the base system was up.
Aug 11 19:47:55 <rsalveti> once we get the patches upstream, or at least organized at an important tree, we can try to see if get any improvement on arm
Aug 11 19:48:12 <rsalveti> then we can request the kernel people to look at it
Aug 11 19:48:30 <mattman> ework: let me know how it goes for you, my initial tests with X was the output was very "jittery"
Aug 11 19:48:51 <mattman> ework: i didn't dig very far to see what was going on.
Aug 11 19:48:56 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: as it helps a lot on the desktop side (it seems), I guess they'll probably accept the patches without many effort
Aug 11 19:49:04 <rsalveti> accept to do the backport
Aug 11 19:53:18 <ework> mattman, ok done with my instructions now lets see about pasting them in
Aug 11 19:58:46 <lag> Grrrr
Aug 11 20:00:03 <rsalveti> lag: still working?
Aug 11 20:00:16 <lag> rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/476578/
Aug 11 20:00:23 <lag> rsalveti: Only when I'm awake :)
Aug 11 20:01:17 <rsalveti> lag: :-)
Aug 11 20:01:44 <rsalveti> lag: you can ask dpkg to force the installation
Aug 11 20:03:12 <lag> Will it affect the initrd.img?
Aug 11 20:07:27 <rsalveti> lag: wireless-crda? don't think so
Aug 11 20:13:01 <rsalveti> lag: ./rootstock --fqdn panda-maverick --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --serial ttyO2 --components "main universe multiverse" --kernel-image http://rsalveti.net/pub/ubuntu/kernel/maverick/linux-image-2.6.34-903-omap4_2.6.34-903.7rsalveti2_armel.deb
Aug 11 20:13:04 <GrueMaster> rsalveti: Ok
Aug 11 20:13:15 <rsalveti> lag: this is how I generally create a new rootfs with a new kernel
Aug 11 20:13:36 <lag> I don't want a new rootfs
Aug 11 20:13:36 <rsalveti> then I just write the rootfs, generate the uI* files and copy to my sd card
Aug 11 20:13:50 <lag> I want to use the daily image's rootfs
Aug 11 20:14:05 <lag> It's the whole point for me jumping through these hoops :)
Aug 11 20:14:05 <rsalveti> lag: oh, true, the bug that only happens with the daily image
Aug 11 20:14:16 <lag> That's the idea
Aug 11 20:39:14 <prpplague> rsalveti: ping
Aug 11 20:39:22 <rsalveti> prpplague: pong
Aug 11 20:39:38 <prpplague> rsalveti: you have an asound.conf file for blaze/sdp4430 ?
Aug 11 20:40:22 <rsalveti> prpplague: can check on my panda, but not sure
Aug 11 20:40:58 <prpplague> rsalveti: you have the audio working properly on your es1.0 panda?
Aug 11 20:41:32 <rsalveti> prpplague: never tested
Aug 11 20:41:34 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: ^?
Aug 11 20:42:07 <rsalveti> who needs sound anyway hehe
Aug 11 20:43:06 <prpplague> rsalveti: hehe
Aug 11 20:43:47 <rsalveti> maybe GrueMaster tested it already, as he tested quite many things already for panda
Aug 11 20:44:07 <prpplague> rsalveti: is there a tested rootfs posted somewhere?
Aug 11 20:44:33 <rsalveti> prpplague: there is the pre-installed image that you can test, if you want
Aug 11 20:44:56 <prpplague> rsalveti: url?
Aug 11 20:45:07 <rsalveti> prpplague: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/current/
Aug 11 20:45:14 <prpplague> thanks
Aug 11 20:45:15 <rsalveti> was finding it :-)
Aug 11 20:45:18 * prpplague looks
Aug 11 20:46:07 <rsalveti> the alpha 3 image, if you prefer http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/alpha-3/
Aug 11 20:46:20 <prpplague> holy cow
Aug 11 20:46:24 <prpplague> 500meg
Aug 11 20:46:32 <rsalveti> just dd it at your sd card and boot it
Aug 11 20:46:36 <rsalveti> yep, lots of packages
Aug 11 20:46:48 <rsalveti> prpplague: and pick a 4gb sd card :-)
Aug 11 20:47:12 <prpplague> rsalveti: oh, it's not a tarball?
Aug 11 20:47:27 <rsalveti> prpplague: nops
Aug 11 20:47:34 * prpplague cancels download
Aug 11 20:47:46 <rsalveti> you can generate a rootfs with rootstock if you want
Aug 11 20:47:54 <rsalveti> and then used it at your device or chroot
Aug 11 20:48:10 <rsalveti> but it's a lot of work for just trying to find a simple file :-)
Aug 11 20:49:18 <prpplague> hmm
Aug 11 20:49:23 <prpplague> either way it is a pain
Aug 11 20:50:40 <prpplague> rsalveti: my biggest rootfs is 16meg
Aug 11 20:51:40 <ework> mattman, ok saved
Aug 11 20:52:08 <ework> mattman, let me know what you think and make any corrections or clarifications you think are needed
Aug 11 20:52:13 <mattman> ework: thank you, i'll take a look at them.
Aug 11 20:52:31 <rsalveti> prpplague: no sound
Aug 11 20:52:41 <rsalveti> doesn't seems to work by default
Aug 11 20:52:47 <ework> mattman, the instructions are somewhat generic and could apply to a number of development boards in some places
Aug 11 20:53:03 <rsalveti> not with pulseaudio at least
Aug 11 20:53:38 <prpplague> rsalveti: oh
Aug 11 20:54:04 <rsalveti> hm, let me check if I'm getting something from the hdmi output
Aug 11 20:54:07 <prpplague> rsalveti: are you guys testing with blaze and sdp as well?
Aug 11 20:54:41 <rsalveti> prpplague: I know ogra_cmpc have one blaze, but don't know if he is testing the image on it or not
Aug 11 20:54:52 <prpplague> hmm ok
Aug 11 20:55:15 * prpplague wonders who at ubuntu-arm is responsible for the audio testing
Aug 11 20:56:19 <prpplague> its kinda like no one is using audio with omap4
Aug 11 20:59:57 <hrw> prpplague: remember that this is #ubuntu-arm not #angstrom - here devs generate 0.5GB images as base ones
Aug 11 21:00:08 <prpplague> yea
Aug 11 21:00:30 <rsalveti> hrw: we'll have a real base one later on
Aug 11 21:01:44 <ogra_cmpc> prpplague, audio should work fine via HDMI
Aug 11 21:03:07 <ogra_cmpc> and if you need an asound.conf file thats a bug with the compiled in defaults, audio should just work, i'm aware that we have to still do some work here
Aug 11 21:04:30 <ogra_cmpc> pulse as well as the kernel defaults for the asoc driver will still need to be touched
Aug 11 21:05:28 <ogra_cmpc> rsalveti, persia is tasked with fixing pulse as soon as he comes back online
Aug 11 21:05:47 <ogra_cmpc> (he just moved houses and seems to have some connection issues)
Aug 11 21:05:55 <rsalveti> ogra_cmpc: hm, ok
Aug 11 21:06:08 <ogra_cmpc> it needs a special config
Aug 11 21:06:11 <mattman> ework: thanks for making those additions, they are very helpful
Aug 11 21:08:03 <ework> mattman, glad you appricate them :)
Aug 11 21:09:03 <ndec> prpplague: do you have /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio on your panda?
Aug 11 21:09:07 <rsalveti> ogra_cmpc: and with blaze, did you tested it already?
Aug 11 21:09:13 <rsalveti> don't know if we also have speakers at blaze
Aug 11 21:09:22 <ogra_cmpc> we dont iirc
Aug 11 21:10:03 <ndec> rsalveti: ogra_cmpc: we have audio on blaze, but it requires proper asound.conf, and a couple of changes in pulse config
Aug 11 21:10:16 <prpplague> ndec: yea
Aug 11 21:10:31 <ogra_cmpc> ndec, the same pulse changes we need for panda, right ?
Aug 11 21:10:39 <ndec> prpplague: so at least, all drivers are compiled in. you will only be missing the ascound.conf
Aug 11 21:10:55 <ogra_cmpc> if you need an asound.conf something is wrong
Aug 11 21:11:06 <ndec> ogra_cmpc: yes. same changes (it's basically to tell pulse to use fixed point resampling, instead of floating point)
Aug 11 21:11:13 <ogra_cmpc> right
Aug 11 21:11:21 <prpplague> yea, i just wanted to make sure i have the correct things turned on for the headset
Aug 11 21:11:21 <ogra_cmpc> thats on persias list
Aug 11 21:11:42 <ndec> ogra_cmpc: well... this, I am not sure. audio h/w pieces is quite complex on OMAP4, and I am not up to speed with this.
Aug 11 21:12:19 <ndec> prpplague: so you never tried audio on panda (i mean on the headset)?
Aug 11 21:12:23 <ogra_cmpc> ndec, well, if you need an asound.conf it means you need to override a default, the default should always work
Aug 11 21:12:27 <prpplague> ogra_cmpc: you have _any_ audio working on any omap4 ?
Aug 11 21:12:41 <prpplague> ndec: yea i have had the audio working on earlier L24.x kernels
Aug 11 21:12:53 <ogra_cmpc> prpplague, iirc we had working audio via HDMI on the panda in prague
Aug 11 21:13:05 <prpplague> ogra_cmpc: yea, the hdmi audio seems to be working fine
Aug 11 21:13:37 <ndec> prpplague: did you grep is4430 is the audio driver code?
Aug 11 21:13:46 <ogra_cmpc> and i think the panda kernel (falsely?) defaults to the HDMI device
Aug 11 21:13:50 <ndec> prpplague: /is4430/is4430sdp/
Aug 11 21:14:19 <ogra_cmpc> on the panda the default should be the headphone jack imho
Aug 11 21:14:36 <ogra_cmpc> while on the blaze hdmi might make more sense
Aug 11 21:14:53 <ndec> ogra_cmpc: do you needs what needs to be done for ubuntu sound preference to figure this out, and allow configuration?
Aug 11 21:15:33 <ogra_cmpc> i didnt play with it yet but shouldnt be to hard to figure out
Aug 11 21:20:22 <prpplague> ogra_cmpc: _shouldn't_  , but i'm working with a new kernel build with a ton of changes
Aug 11 22:51:10 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: still there?
Aug 11 22:51:36 <GrueMaster> yes, I'm here.  Didn't see the earlier posts until now.
Aug 11 22:52:09 <prpplague> rsalveti: found the problem anyway, thanks
Aug 11 22:52:13 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: http://rsalveti.net/pub/ubuntu/kernel/maverick/linux-image-2.6.34-903-omap4_2.6.34-903.7rsalveti2_armel.deb
Aug 11 22:52:39 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: the deb file with latest kernel plus some patches from robclark to improve the dvi support
Aug 11 22:52:48 <rsalveti> if you want to test
Aug 11 22:53:08 <rsalveti> mine doesn't work because I'm getting -vsync with my monitor
Aug 11 22:53:20 <rsalveti> prpplague: np, did you create a new asound.conf?
Aug 11 22:53:34 <GrueMaster> I do, but it may be a little while.  I'm trying to either resolve the oem-config issue or will file a bug shortly.
Aug 11 22:53:35 <prpplague> rsalveti: yea, manually
Aug 11 22:54:14 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: np, just to let you know about if, if you're willing to test :-)
Aug 11 22:54:27 <rsalveti> *it
Aug 11 22:54:50 <rsalveti> prpplague: is it working at the headset output for you now?
Aug 11 22:55:26 <GrueMaster> That's what I'm here for.
Aug 11 22:58:58 <prpplague> rsalveti: yea
Aug 11 22:59:16 <rsalveti> nice, good to know that it works :-)
Aug 11 23:22:50 <ework> mattman, ok X works it just doesnt seem to like using a DVI to VGA adapter also since its using a framebuffer you can't change the resolution
Aug 11 23:42:25 <ework> mattman, added some minor changes about the framebuffer device node and using DVI directly which fixes my X11 problems
Aug 11 23:43:00 <ework> mattman, should be sufficient now for someone to get an ubuntu desktop running on that board
Aug 11 23:44:16 <mattman> ework: so what are the parameters you're passing into the frame buffer?
Aug 11 23:44:39 <ework> nothing just created the device node
Aug 11 23:44:50 <ework> it works at 1024x768x60 without any changes
Aug 11 23:44:55 <mattman> ework: that's good to know
Aug 11 23:46:53 <ework> mattman, yah there should be enough tips and instructions there now to get ubuntu 10.04 installed from scratch
Aug 11 23:47:02 <ework> mattman, to the desktop
Aug 11 23:47:45 <mattman> ework: great
Aug 11 23:48:28 <ework> mattman, thanks for your help I wouldn't have gotten this far without your pointers
Aug 11 23:50:18 <GrueMaster> Great.  Now I am seeing soft lockups on cpu0.  Very frustrating
Aug 12 00:13:54 <cooloney> hquit
Aug 12 02:05:54 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: with beagle or panda?
Aug 12 02:09:48 <prpplague> the beanda
Aug 12 02:09:58 <prpplague> evening folks
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