**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 17 02:59:57 2010 Aug 17 03:43:48 Say, any new news on getting dkms for powervr? Aug 17 03:43:55 Beagleboard, specifically. Aug 17 03:46:30 one of the linaro kernel guys pinged me about it last week.. (his dvi display wasn't working) but he has some questions on my sgx module patches.. Aug 17 03:47:04 It really sucks that TI is so uptight about their graphics... they should take an example from nvidia, of all people. Aug 17 03:47:25 It's also confusing... for an Ubuntu beagleboard, do I need psp-sdk? Aug 17 03:48:23 oh yeah, and thanks for the new setup script -- setup_sdcard.sh Aug 17 03:48:43 Though, one improvement: it needs to "inhibit" automount as gparted does, or sometimes you get "Can't reread partition table". Aug 17 03:48:46 umm.. TI can't do anything about it.. By licenseing the core from imgtek (first mistake), TI has some rights, but imgtek makes the rules.. Aug 17 03:49:02 Or TI should at least make the build script not phail. Aug 17 03:49:10 And even when inhibited, the error still sometimes happens. Aug 17 03:49:47 do you know anyway to in inhibit, other then going into gconf and turning it off? Aug 17 03:50:20 It's probably a dbus call. Aug 17 03:51:24 or udisks --inhibit Aug 17 03:54:22 interesting, i'll give that a try tomorrow.. hopefully in time for the 10.04.1 image, thanks DanaG Aug 17 03:55:15 ah, and when I tried to deploy btrfs, I got lack of fsck.btrfs. Aug 17 03:56:58 yeap, i've seen that too... i even added btrfs-tools to the default roostock image, thinking that would help, but no.. (even alpha-3) Aug 17 03:57:27 Argh, stupid wireshark... Aug 17 03:57:34 I try to type "usb0" in capture interface box, I get: Aug 17 03:57:35 ub0s Aug 17 03:57:51 And wlan0 is ub0s Aug 17 03:57:52 er Aug 17 03:57:54 wan0l Aug 17 03:58:06 And eth0 is eh0t Aug 17 03:58:45 Note: I think the udisks call to inhibit runs only as long as the udisks command is running. Aug 17 03:58:55 So, you may have to background it, then kill %something later. Aug 17 04:00:05 yeap, that's the way it looks in the man page.. Aug 17 04:03:48 DanaG, what's weird, the package btrfs-tools contains 'fsck.btrfs' http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/i386/btrfs-tools/filelist kinda weird it isn't found at boot.. Aug 17 04:04:09 It must not end up in the initramfs, then? Aug 17 04:04:44 ARGH, stupid EEM. Aug 17 04:05:05 I see packets of type 0xbc59 from ff:ff:d6:e3:b3:a0 Aug 17 04:05:09 that's not a valid MAC address! Aug 17 04:08:44 argh, and TI's mirrors are dog-slow... Aug 17 04:08:56 160 KB/sec on a connection that can do 500-600. Aug 17 05:00:52 Wait, maybe it's wifi fail, or Charter fail. Aug 17 06:59:11 does anyone still meet this issue with Maverick on Beagle? Aug 17 06:59:20 [ 2.557128] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card Aug 17 07:01:15 cooloney: known bug that mathieu is working on Aug 17 07:03:26 cooloney: Are you hitting it? Aug 17 07:03:37 cooloney: I guess this was fixed with latest update Aug 17 07:04:36 cooloney: rsalveti: amitk: bug 591941 Aug 17 07:04:38 Launchpad bug 591941 in linux (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "SDHC card not recognized (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 70)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/591941 Aug 17 07:05:05 amitk: yeah, i guess so Aug 17 07:05:12 lag: i just hit that Aug 17 07:05:23 rsalveti: i tried latest maverick kernel in our tree Aug 17 07:05:46 rsalveti: lag: I don't consider that revert a 'fix'. It is a workaround at best :) Aug 17 07:06:06 Mathieu and Robert are working on it Aug 17 07:06:32 yeah, true, they are still working on it Aug 17 07:06:49 ok, understood, thanks, bros Aug 17 07:06:50 amitk: Agreed, hence the present tense of my previous statement :) Aug 17 07:07:02 i just wanna test the kexec things on maverick Aug 17 07:07:09 :) Aug 17 07:07:19 the bug that got fixed is the mtd one Aug 17 07:07:50 cooloney: Either do this: Aug 17 07:07:52 CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m Aug 17 07:07:52 CONFIG_SND_PCM=m Aug 17 07:07:52 # CONFIG_SND_SOC is not set Aug 17 07:08:07 or turn off CONFIG_PREEMPT Aug 17 07:09:31 well, time to get some sleep Aug 17 07:10:28 rsalveti: good night Aug 17 07:10:43 lag: so that's config patch from Mathieu? Aug 17 07:11:52 cooloney: ? Aug 17 07:13:57 lag: i saw some discussion about the CPU_IDLE in the LP thread Aug 17 07:14:23 but failed to find the CONFIG_SND_PCM stuff Aug 17 07:14:55 cooloney: Ignore CPU_IDLE Aug 17 07:15:12 I just turn off CONFIG_PREEMPT Aug 17 07:15:15 cooloney: Wait one Aug 17 07:15:47 lag: ah, i saw that, rcn-ee posted in his message Aug 17 07:15:59 lag: ok, let me disable PREEMPT Aug 17 07:16:22 cooloney: Do you know where it is? Aug 17 07:16:53 Kernel Features -> Preemption Model Aug 17 07:17:07 Change it from Desktop to Server Aug 17 07:17:48 cooloney: Do you have a working kernel uImage that USB is proven to work with? Aug 17 07:18:01 cooloney: In fact the .deb would be more helpful Aug 17 07:19:39 lag: oh, haven't try USB much this time Aug 17 07:19:58 Would you mind? Aug 17 07:20:58 lag: could you try low-latency desktop for the pre-empt model. I noticed that Nokia ship with that enabled so their driver is tested in that environment Aug 17 07:21:11 lag: need i test it on omap4 panda or omap3 beagle? Aug 17 07:22:00 amitk: I've just looked, and that's what we have enabled at the moment - when did that happen? Aug 17 07:22:23 lag: I did ask Mathieu to try that out in response to his patch on the list Aug 17 07:22:41 cooloney: 4 Aug 17 07:22:42 so that doesn't work either? Aug 17 07:22:58 amitk: I haven't tried Aug 17 07:23:03 ok Aug 17 07:23:08 * amitk is off to meet Tony Aug 17 07:23:26 amitk: I'll do so now though (neither of my boards work properly, so I may as well) Aug 17 07:23:33 amitk: Say hi from me :) Aug 17 07:23:42 sure Aug 17 07:26:33 lag: will test it later. Aug 17 08:34:29 Hey npitre Aug 17 08:34:49 Hey lag. Aug 17 08:35:03 MOrning GrueMaster Aug 17 08:35:10 How's Oxford? Aug 17 08:35:30 Same as Oregon, just older. Aug 17 08:35:58 GrueMaster: I was there over the weekend Saturday was a bit drizzly, but Sunday was really nice Aug 17 08:36:31 You should have stopped by. I got here Saturday. Aug 17 08:36:58 GrueMaster: I was at a festival - I was in no state to be meeting colleagues :) Aug 17 08:37:45 GrueMaster: I should mention that it was a Cider Festival :) Aug 17 08:38:01 More the reason to find me. Aug 17 08:38:09 GrueMaster: :) Aug 17 08:38:38 So, what can I do you for? Aug 17 08:38:54 Nothing really. Just saying hey. Aug 17 08:39:09 GrueMaster: Ah, good morning Aug 17 08:39:16 GrueMaster: What's the plan for today? Aug 17 08:39:23 Did you say you needed to test something on panda? Aug 17 08:39:40 No, I need a replacement Aug 17 08:39:43 I'm in the CoP QA meeting, but also have my omap hw. Aug 17 08:40:52 But I would need an email from David before I could leave you with my es1. Aug 17 08:40:55 GrueMaster: Well if you have some spare cycles, feel free to test this: http://people.canonical.com/~ljones/usb-stopped-panda/ Aug 17 08:41:10 The USB on my Panda has stopped working Aug 17 08:41:19 I think it's hardware Aug 17 08:41:29 ok, I'll pull it now and try it later this morning. Aug 17 08:41:38 Excellent, thanks Aug 17 08:43:11 Did you try rebooting with Alpha 3 image? Aug 17 08:45:20 I've tried Alpha 3, yes Aug 17 08:46:17 I hope this isn't another hardware killer patch from the kernel team. Aug 17 08:48:25 GrueMaster: It's more likely to be a userland issue Aug 17 08:48:38 =:-p Aug 17 08:49:29 ogra: Have you noticed the reason for the image build failures? It appears that we are hanging on unity missing a package that exists in a ppa (from what I could find). Aug 17 08:49:39 lag: PLBKAC Aug 17 08:49:51 GrueMaster, have you noticed that tonights images have built ? :) Aug 17 08:50:36 No, missed that. Last email Ihad said fail. Will pull immediately (but I believe oem-config is still bad). Aug 17 08:50:37 the package was stuck in universe, pitti fixed that yesterday Aug 17 08:50:44 ah. Aug 17 08:50:58 * ogra is just done with pulling, gunzipping already Aug 17 08:51:21 GrueMaster: DYJMTUY? Aug 17 08:52:03 ? Aug 17 08:52:17 My sentiments exactly Aug 17 08:52:29 Did You Just Make That Up Yourself? Aug 17 08:52:48 Problem Lies Between Keyboard and Chair. Aug 17 08:53:43 PLBKACPU Aug 17 09:04:50 SD I/O is slowwwww. Aug 17 09:10:42 NCommander, could you put http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-mobile-assigned-bug-tasks.html on the meeting agenda ? Aug 17 09:11:09 (as a standing item) Aug 17 09:14:32 ogra: can you add it yourself? my internet connection is really crappy, and the wiki VERY slow Aug 17 09:17:05 ogra: what's the usual window manager when UNE 2D is runnign? Aug 17 09:17:12 metacity Aug 17 09:17:25 ogra: and what draws the bar at the top? Aug 17 09:17:30 with maximus attached Aug 17 09:17:31 (and what starts metacity) Aug 17 09:17:34 hrm Aug 17 09:17:35 thats gnome-panel Aug 17 09:17:43 gnome-session starts metacity Aug 17 09:18:12 ogra: seems I have an issue with gnome-session then :-/ Aug 17 09:18:18 NCommander: panda is still updating. Hopefully done soon. Aug 17 09:18:27 ogra: what tells gnome-session then to start UNE or normal GNOME? env variable? Aug 17 09:18:36 gconf Aug 17 09:18:44 * DanaG still wants texture_from_pixmap on ARM... =/ Aug 17 09:18:47 well, gdm actually Aug 17 09:18:55 gconf defines whats running in the session Aug 17 09:18:56 And I wish that "panda" weren't so impossible to find online. Aug 17 09:19:11 DanaG, they are not sold yet Aug 17 09:19:25 ogra: ok, that makes sense. I'm trying to trace why I'm having a launcher failure Aug 17 09:19:44 NCommander, which session do you try ? Aug 17 09:19:53 ogra: both UNE and UNE 2D Aug 17 09:20:01 UNE will just hang hard Aug 17 09:20:03 I get netbook-launcher-efl to pop up, but nothing else Aug 17 09:20:06 dont try that Aug 17 09:20:09 UNE starts 2D Aug 17 09:20:17 it doesnt Aug 17 09:20:25 I don't even mean to buy... I just mean to find pictures! Aug 17 09:20:29 if it does thats a bug you should talk to the desktop team about Aug 17 09:20:31 Unless it's under NDA. :( Aug 17 09:22:16 GrueMaster, no change with oem-config in todays image :( Aug 17 09:22:17 Literally all I can find for "omap4 panda" are the kernel patches for "add support for omap4 panda". Aug 17 09:22:29 fail. Aug 17 09:22:43 i'm out of debugging ides :/ Aug 17 09:22:47 *ideas Aug 17 09:24:05 ogra: on what? Aug 17 09:24:08 Say, if I were to take the GL ES apps source from the TI SDK, could I use it with the Mesa GL ES? Aug 17 09:27:00 NCommander, for the oem-config issues Aug 17 09:27:13 ogra: I'll see if I can tweak with it a bit this week. Aug 17 09:27:29 ogra: ouch. I can confirm however that using the normal UNE session and not UNE 2D still causes the 2D launcher to stop Aug 17 09:27:36 ogra: can you please poke the casper bug for me? Aug 17 09:27:50 NCommander, if the papaerwork on the bug is done :) Aug 17 09:28:03 (remember i asked you about an additional task) Aug 17 09:28:43 ogra: bah, I thought you were going to add that :-P Aug 17 09:28:58 right, thats the reason why i asked you :P Aug 17 09:29:38 ogra: ok, so starting the 2D launcher causes gnome panel to startup in desktop configuration, and not "normally" for UNE 2D Aug 17 09:29:49 ogra: and the 3D session starts the 2D session san panel Aug 17 09:29:50 yes, thats a known bug Aug 17 09:29:51 W.T.F. Aug 17 09:30:03 the 3D session shouldnt start a launcher at all Aug 17 09:30:13 only the two unity panels Aug 17 09:30:24 ogra: is the 2D session known to be broken? Aug 17 09:30:25 but they wont start up if you dont have proper GL support Aug 17 09:30:34 I don't think it should be showing a normal gnome-panel Aug 17 09:30:41 ogra: ok, so starting the 2D launcher causes gnome panel to startup in desktop configuration, and not "normally" for UNE 2D Aug 17 09:30:44 yes, thats a known bug Aug 17 09:30:53 argh, stupid PowerVR... not only are their drivers closed-source... even their freaking demos are closed-source. Aug 17 09:30:59 * NCommander hits his head Aug 17 09:31:09 ogra: so what's the fix :-)? Aug 17 09:31:14 So you can't compile any GL ES stuff for non-PowerVR stuff. Aug 17 09:31:23 NCommander, oem-config needs to work again so i can move on :P Aug 17 09:31:25 Or at least, there's no GL ES glxgears! Aug 17 09:31:42 Anyway, off to bed I go nowz. Aug 17 09:31:49 NCommander, we have a -settings package but no settings in it yet Aug 17 09:31:59 ogra: but this worked in lucid! Aug 17 09:31:59 to set these up i need a working session Aug 17 09:32:09 GNOME changed a lot Aug 17 09:32:19 .oO(we should have used KNE) Aug 17 09:32:20 * NCommander ducks Aug 17 09:32:25 and the setting package we shared with the 3D launcher is gone Aug 17 09:32:36 because of unity Aug 17 09:32:39 ogra: paperwork done :-P Aug 17 09:32:44 thanks Aug 17 09:32:50 i'll upload before the meeting Aug 17 09:35:57 * GrueMaster votes +1 for KNE Aug 17 09:56:14 hmm Aug 17 09:56:26 seems /var/lib/dbus/machine-id exists and is wrong on the images Aug 17 09:56:40 so dbus doesnt start and it tears down oem-config with it Aug 17 09:56:51 * ogra tries to prove that theory now Aug 17 09:57:28 * GrueMaster is still waiting for Alpha 3 -> current updates to finish. Aug 17 10:04:58 ogra: I'll look at ubuntu-netbook-2d-settings sometime this week if you want, since I need to ASAP for Marvell :-/ Aug 17 10:05:15 i'll do it as soon as i can get a working session Aug 17 10:05:26 ogra: fair enough Aug 17 10:05:28 its not that it blocks anything from working Aug 17 10:05:45 * NCommander must admit he feels exhausted today Aug 17 10:06:20 * ogra guesses you will enjoy the team call this week :P Aug 17 10:06:43 hmm, so there is no such dbus file in the plain images Aug 17 10:06:54 i wonder why dbus doesnt start then Aug 17 10:07:50 Did you compare with A3? Aug 17 10:09:25 ogra: maybe it missed its bus to work Aug 17 10:09:26 * NCommander runs Aug 17 10:09:46 haha Aug 17 10:10:06 GrueMaster, no, nothing to compare here Aug 17 10:33:46 ogra_cmpc: bug 605488 Aug 17 10:33:47 Launchpad bug 605488 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: mmcqd/46/0x00000002 (affects: 1) (heat: 132)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605488 Aug 17 10:33:56 ogra: How big should the swap file be? Aug 17 10:37:23 GrueMaster: ? Aug 17 10:39:06 sawp file? Aug 17 10:39:17 swap Aug 17 10:39:36 I think swap is currently turned off. Aug 17 10:39:42 ogra said this bug only appears when swap is on Aug 17 10:40:14 Oh, that one. Make a swap file == ram size. Aug 17 10:40:39 k Aug 17 10:40:44 Well ... Aug 17 10:40:49 Only 256MB works Aug 17 10:40:52 Shall I use that? Aug 17 10:41:00 I guess. Aug 17 10:41:02 Or the actual 512MB Aug 17 10:41:03 k Aug 17 10:41:09 Panda? Aug 17 10:41:28 Beagle Aug 17 10:42:21 bs? Aug 17 10:43:31 so, you are checking an omap4 bug on an omap3 system? Aug 17 10:44:11 GrueMaster: So it is! Aug 17 10:44:25 Actually - I'm not Aug 17 10:44:30 I am on Panda Aug 17 10:44:45 (things get confusing when you're working on both boards at the same time) Aug 17 10:44:47 then my previous reply counts. Aug 17 10:44:56 (I am doing the correct thing) :) Aug 17 10:45:05 Which was? Aug 17 10:45:14 512MB? Aug 17 10:45:18 yes Aug 17 10:45:21 np Aug 17 10:45:22 Thanks Aug 17 10:58:04 GrueMaster: How can I reproduce this bug? Aug 17 11:04:42 lag, just reboot, the messages about swapping should show up in dmesg Aug 17 11:06:57 yep. Should see it as soon as the system mounts swap. Aug 17 11:14:52 ogra_cmpc: GrueMaster: Should I still be able to see it whilst using a rootstock rootfs? Aug 17 11:18:41 I don't know. Aug 17 11:20:12 since its a kernel message the rootfs shouldnt matter Aug 17 11:20:32 http://paste.ubuntu.com/479343/ Aug 17 11:20:35 though it might only happen if the system actually uses swap Aug 17 11:20:37 Well here's what I do get Aug 17 11:20:57 ogra_cmpc: Should I write an application which uses lots of memory? Aug 17 11:33:47 Lanch une. Aug 17 11:33:52 launch Aug 17 11:41:22 lag, looks o so far, just start a desktop session and use firefox for a while or something Aug 17 11:41:57 ogra: I can't Aug 17 11:42:28 ogra: No USB Aug 17 12:59:17 GrueMaster: ping Aug 17 13:03:17 * persia starts a meeting in #ubuntu-meeting Aug 17 13:03:18 pong Aug 17 13:36:47 ogra: any change to sponsor me at bug 619026? Aug 17 13:36:57 Launchpad bug 619026 in pybootchartgui (Ubuntu) "pybootchartgui gives ZeroDivisionError when parsing the tgz file generated by a beagleboard (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619026 Aug 17 13:37:28 was testing ureadhead yesterday but found out that I couldn't generate the bootchart file on beagleboard Aug 17 13:38:00 well, you can copy the tgz over to an x86 machine and generate the png there Aug 17 13:38:01 and about ureadahead I'll just disable it if you run on systems with less than 512, doesn't change a thing at the bootchart Aug 17 13:38:09 ogra: that's what I did Aug 17 13:38:18 ogra: but the bug is inside pybootchartgui Aug 17 13:38:44 it's not using the mmcblk device while generating the bootchart Aug 17 13:39:21 ah, right Aug 17 13:39:29 i'll sponsor it after the meeting Aug 17 13:42:25 thanks Aug 17 13:55:44 ogra: /sys/devices/system/cpu/ showscpu0 & cpu1. Checking further. Aug 17 13:55:59 Kind of slow, still updating (from yesterday). Aug 17 13:56:10 are you sure it just doesnt scroll off the screen or so ? Aug 17 13:56:51 ogra: ever heard of the Sharp PC-Z1 NetWalker ? Aug 17 13:56:57 what scroll off the screen? I have an HDMI monitor here. Aug 17 13:57:12 rsavoye: I think persia has one. Aug 17 13:57:27 rsalveti, persia had one for a while Aug 17 13:57:30 err Aug 17 13:57:35 rsavoye, indeed Aug 17 13:57:35 it ships with 9.04, I but I heard you can;t upgrade due to driver problems Aug 17 13:57:46 I used to have one, but I dropped it in the sink. It's a lovely machine, and I am tempted to get another almost every week. Aug 17 13:58:03 I just want something that's stable :-) Aug 17 13:58:24 A few folks have looked at the kernel patches, but untangling what needs to be applied to current kernels (some parts are upstream) seems yet to be resolved. Aug 17 13:58:42 figures... Aug 17 13:58:44 There's no git tree available, so it's just a huge monolithic patch to dig through. Aug 17 13:59:42 somebody said they were running 10.04 on one, but just never upgraded the kernel Aug 17 14:01:51 Interesting. Jaunty was armV5 (iirc). Lucid+ is armV7. Aug 17 14:02:11 800Mhz sounds nice too Aug 17 14:03:04 ogra: On the panda, /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu[01]/online are both 1. I assume this means they should be on. Aug 17 14:05:15 GrueMaster, It's i.mx51x, so it can do v7, but who knows how stable the userspace/kernel interface is in that configuration :) Aug 17 14:06:47 rsavoye, My critique of the netwalker is only that I don't like the keyboard that much (the 'a' key is in the wrong place, to my mind), and that the screen doesn't lay flat (or convert into tablet mode). Beyond that, it's lovely (even running jaunty), and there is some upstream kernel support, so you might join the several folks trying to get newer kernels there. Aug 17 14:06:57 Yes, I know. I was refering to the images. Aug 17 14:07:20 persia: I have an old Sharp 3200, same teeny keyboard Aug 17 14:07:35 The way the super-special-sharp-installer for those works, one has to make a mess of the images anyway, which makes it less important. Aug 17 14:07:40 Does the raw Jaunty image work? Aug 17 14:07:47 as much as I'd love to jump into the kernel patches, I need to finish my current ARM hacking first Aug 17 14:07:49 rsavoye, Not at all. the SL-C3200 has a *much* better keyboard. Aug 17 14:08:16 persia: oh no! Course I was considering using it as a build slave mostly Aug 17 14:08:21 GrueMaster, nope, missing kernel patches Aug 17 14:08:21 (and is ergonomically better overall: pity that form-factor wasn't used in the more recent devices) Aug 17 14:09:23 Oh, as a buildd slave, just install pbuilder on top of the sharp remix, and have at it. Nothing blocking there. no need to fiddle the kernel. Aug 17 14:18:41 Hmm, interesting. /proc/cpuinfo only shows one proc, but top shows both (one is barely awake). Aug 17 14:19:07 It does seem to be passing the load back & forth. Aug 17 14:21:20 thats how its supposed to work Aug 17 14:21:26 htop is better than top btw Aug 17 14:22:34 I just found it odd that /proc/cpuinfo only showed one proc. Aug 17 14:24:14 are you sure its not scrolled offscreen ? Aug 17 14:28:32 Is what scrolled of screen? Aug 17 14:30:32 the cpuinfo output Aug 17 14:31:01 It only fills a quarter of the screen. Aug 17 14:31:25 if that Aug 17 14:33:15 ok, now I see it. Very weird. Aug 17 14:46:24 ogra: How are rootstock's commands compiled? (which toolchain) Aug 17 14:49:40 lag: a little elf writes down the list of commands and then spends straw into binary code Aug 17 14:50:14 prpplague: Okay, I'll cut to the chase Aug 17 14:50:39 prpplague: My cross-compiler is a little out of date and I need another Aug 17 14:51:26 * prpplague isn't familiar with rootstock operations Aug 17 14:51:49 lag: i use OE and codesourcery for my cross-compilers Aug 17 14:53:22 prpplague: I'm trying to cross-compile a little program to use up lots of memory - but if I compile it dynamically I receive "file not found" Aug 17 14:53:43 prpplague: If I try it statically I receive "illegal instruction" Aug 17 14:53:44 lag: that sounds odd Aug 17 14:53:57 lag: mind if i give it a try? Aug 17 14:54:33 I have chopped it (all the way) down to a hello world - same result Aug 17 14:54:42 Do you want me to send you the binary? Aug 17 14:56:18 lag: sorry i ment try compliling the code Aug 17 14:56:44 prpplague: That's my point - it does the same for hello world Aug 17 14:56:56 It must be the compiler - the code is sound Aug 17 14:57:12 lag: what is command line you are using to cross-compile the source? Aug 17 14:58:06 arm-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc <-static> -o use-memory-arm use-memory.c Aug 17 14:58:56 lag, rootstock is a script Aug 17 14:59:03 lag: after you compile it, issue the command: file use-memory-arm Aug 17 15:00:03 Done that Aug 17 15:00:05 lag: that should give you some basic info about how the binary was compiled Aug 17 15:00:14 I did it already Aug 17 15:00:22 lag: all that info looks good? Aug 17 15:00:23 I have to go (meeting) will you be here in a bit? Aug 17 15:00:26 Yeah Aug 17 15:00:28 lag: yea all day Aug 17 15:00:30 Sort of Aug 17 15:10:28 ogra: upgrading from Alpha 3 to current seems to fail somewhere. Just rebooted (finally), and it is locked up. Will dive into, butthought you would want to know. Aug 17 15:11:20 GrueMaster, awesome, then its not oem-configs fault as i suspected Aug 17 15:11:21 asac: I am having trouble getting to a point where I can test banshee for you. Will let you know when I can get past these issues. Aug 17 15:11:46 GrueMaster, just dont upgrade, apt-get install banshee on a plain A3 Aug 17 15:11:51 ogra: X isn't even starting. Aug 17 15:11:57 GrueMaster: ok. let me know Aug 17 15:12:00 it should only upgrade banshee related packages then Aug 17 15:12:09 thanks for the update Aug 17 15:12:27 GrueMaster, try startx on a tty Aug 17 15:12:35 see what it tells you Aug 17 15:12:41 I wonder if I can debug thumb2 code on an i.mx51x... Aug 17 15:14:04 ogra: Total lockup. need to modify kernel cmdline to get serial out first. No prompt available. Aug 17 15:14:14 wow Aug 17 15:14:48 Not even getting numlock or capslock. Aug 17 15:15:21 thats ES1 ? Aug 17 15:15:31 yes. Aug 17 15:15:34 smells like kernel Aug 17 15:15:58 mount the boot partition, there are .bak files of kernel and initramfs Aug 17 15:16:11 No. Had to reboot a couple times during the upgrade process (thought it had locked up) New kernel came up fine. Aug 17 15:16:16 copy them around so that you boot the .bak files Aug 17 15:16:47 I know the process, but I doubt it is the kernel. Aug 17 15:17:13 well, do you see the same on an omap3 board ? Aug 17 15:17:58 I haven't had a chance to try this on omap3. The time it takes is painful. Aug 17 15:25:25 rsavoye, Should be able to do so: the core supports it Aug 17 15:25:56 cool, I've tempted to buy one so I can stop sharing a C4, which is insanely slow Aug 17 15:26:48 persia: since you have one, is the keyboard worth it, or is the tablet one better ? Aug 17 15:27:31 ogra: old kernel locks. Now trying with serial console. Aug 17 15:29:03 rsavoye, Depends on what you want to do with it. The tablet one is uninteresting to me (I don't want only a tablet at that size/weight). I complain about the keyboard, but I'm seriously considering getting another one. Aug 17 15:29:35 for me it'd mostly be an ARM build slave, I don't like netbooks generally Aug 17 15:30:16 the only other difference is the mmc size, but I could add a bigger one myself Aug 17 15:31:29 That would involve soldering :) Aug 17 15:32:32 ouch. one has 4GB, the other 8GB Aug 17 15:32:44 maybe an external USB drive... Aug 17 15:34:28 GrueMaster: i'd really like to see some info on how to get the ubuntu builds working with distcc or ice to improve native compiles Aug 17 15:34:35 GrueMaster: you guys got anyone working on that? Aug 17 15:35:14 The only one that did that I know of is NCommander, but he's probably out atm. Aug 17 15:35:36 GrueMaster: yea i asked, he only used ice once to do a couple of small compiles Aug 17 15:35:38 rsavoye, As a buildd slave, you *definitely* want an external drive, preferably rotary (otherwise you go through a heap of flash) Aug 17 15:36:14 You could always setup an NFS share. Aug 17 15:36:16 USB2 drives are cheap these days, or I could just mount space off another machine Aug 17 15:36:36 * prpplague has been experimenting with a fpga design that emulates nand flash but uses an external SATA drive Aug 17 15:36:37 I use NFS on my XM board, which unfortunately is useless still for doing builds :-( Aug 17 15:37:08 somehow I think I shouldn't hold my breath for the XM kernel fixes... Aug 17 15:37:25 I have a NFS share for builds and nfs-root, but not enough systems to try this with. Aug 17 15:37:38 but it's impossible to run GDB on a C$ when somebody else is running linpack and whetstone tests... Aug 17 15:37:40 rsavoye: they should be out soon. Aug 17 15:37:52 GrueMaster: this week ? :-) Aug 17 15:38:07 I'm in a crunch for time unfortunately Aug 17 15:38:10 I don't know, I only test them. Aug 17 15:38:13 I' Aug 17 15:38:14 Srry. Aug 17 15:38:14 GrueMaster: other fun items on my todo list, research multi-framebuffer support in ubuntu Aug 17 15:38:26 l'll gladly test them too :-) Aug 17 15:38:47 prpplague: Same here (if someone will send me a blaze). Aug 17 15:38:50 prpplague: Hola Aug 17 15:38:58 GrueMaster: or panda Aug 17 15:39:02 lag: hey Aug 17 15:39:10 prpplague: Where were we? Aug 17 15:39:19 I only have one monitor per system. Aug 17 15:39:23 lag: you did a file command on the resulting binary Aug 17 15:39:30 And 5 in my office is getting tight. Aug 17 15:39:40 GrueMaster: hehe Aug 17 15:39:52 prpplague: Working: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, stripped Aug 17 15:40:02 oh that reminds, me i need to check on that HDMI switcher we ordered Aug 17 15:40:04 prpplague: Mine: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.3, not stripped Aug 17 15:40:23 prpplague: Note the Linux version and SYSV tags Aug 17 15:40:38 lag: ahh yea Aug 17 15:40:40 I've also tried stripped and static binaries Aug 17 15:40:40 prpplague: If you get that working, it would greatly help my test environment. Aug 17 15:41:30 prpplague: Also, did you test the kernel I sent you? Aug 17 15:41:59 lag: yea looks like your cross-compiler is out of date Aug 17 15:42:15 * prpplague tries to remember about testing the kernel Aug 17 15:42:24 lag: been swamped with a release, let me check my notes Aug 17 15:44:01 lag: not seeing it in my notes or email, which email address did you send it to? Aug 17 15:47:35 I didn't, I gave you a people.canonical.com address and you downloaded it :) Aug 17 15:48:11 19:23:03> lag: pulling now Aug 17 15:48:15 :) Aug 17 15:48:32 ahh right, sorry Aug 17 15:48:37 prpplague: So it was 3hrs from now on Friday :) Aug 17 15:48:47 no i haven't had time to test Aug 17 15:50:15 prpplague: Do you still have the link? Aug 17 15:50:29 lag: negative, but i did pull it Aug 17 15:50:31 rsalveti: ping Aug 17 15:50:32 * prpplague sees it Aug 17 15:50:36 :) Aug 17 15:50:50 prpplague: So your cross-compilers ... Aug 17 15:51:03 prpplague: Are they binaries? Or do you have to build them? Aug 17 15:51:24 lag: the codesorucery is binary, but when i use OE it builds it from source Aug 17 15:51:53 Are they both free? Aug 17 15:53:25 http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription?@template=lite Aug 17 15:53:36 lag: yea Aug 17 15:53:43 lag: there is a learning curve for OE Aug 17 15:54:24 prpplague: I just hit that link as you sent it :) Aug 17 15:55:55 jayabharath: Hi Jay Aug 17 16:12:25 there's a learning cliff for OE ;-) Aug 17 16:12:44 mopdenacker: :) Aug 17 16:12:56 CS is on its way :) Aug 17 16:13:42 lag, talk to hrw, we have the distro gcc packaged as cross compiler Aug 17 16:14:18 ogra: In our repos? Aug 17 16:14:32 either in the repo or in a linaro PPA Aug 17 16:14:47 lag: pong Aug 17 16:14:50 Okay, he doesn't seem to be in at the moment Aug 17 16:14:58 rsalveti: Can you test a kernel for me please? Aug 17 16:15:11 rsalveti: http://people.canonical.com/~ljones/usb-stopped-panda/ Aug 17 16:15:16 lag: yep Aug 17 16:15:22 rsalveti: Thanking you! Aug 17 16:15:29 lag: oh, about the usb issue you found on your board? Aug 17 16:15:31 I'm fairly sure it's my board Aug 17 16:15:36 rsalveti: Yeah Aug 17 16:15:43 ok Aug 17 16:15:49 ta Aug 17 16:16:22 rsalveti: I'm testing your 903.7rsalveti2 kernel with the alpha3 preinstalled images on my Panda Aug 17 16:16:53 mopdenacker: nice, did it work? Aug 17 16:18:16 rsalveti: not completely. It's not exactly the right resolution setting. At least we can see something and read the screen, but lines look interleaved. Aug 17 16:19:23 mopdenacker: hm, ok, i think it should set 640x480 if it can't recognize it correctly Aug 17 16:19:35 mopdenacker: you're testing with dvi, right? Aug 17 16:19:38 In graphics mode, the screen is split in 2 vertical parts. Aug 17 16:19:55 hdmi->dvi Aug 17 16:20:30 rsalveti: I connected the hdmi output of the Panda to an apparently DVI-D monitor. Aug 17 16:20:47 mopdenacker: ok Aug 17 16:22:12 rsalveti: let me show a picture (takes a bit of time to open my phone and take the sd card out) Aug 17 16:23:24 mopdenacker: it'd also be interesting to see your boot log, with omapdss.debug=1 and your edid Aug 17 16:25:04 to get the edid install the package read-edid and run parse-edid /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/edid Aug 17 16:25:21 mopdenacker: That is a known issue Aug 17 16:25:28 mopdenacker: Which monitor do you have? Aug 17 16:25:42 robclark: ping Aug 17 16:26:17 mopdenacker: but he is testing my kernel Aug 17 16:26:26 argh Aug 17 16:26:27 lag: but he is testing my kernel Aug 17 16:26:36 lag: with robclark's patches for better dvi support Aug 17 16:26:51 rsalveti: Does your kernel have robclark and mythripk's patches? Aug 17 16:26:54 lag: pong Aug 17 16:27:05 robclark: You have a customer --^ Aug 17 16:27:13 lag: yep Aug 17 16:27:27 rsalveti: Coolio Aug 17 16:27:32 rsalveti: here's the picture: http://free-electrons.com/tmp/IMG_20100817_181722.jpg Aug 17 16:27:59 mopdenacker: robclark should be able to help :) Aug 17 16:28:08 robclark and I have seen this before Aug 17 16:28:16 lag: http://gitorious.org/ubuntu-experimental/kernel-maverick/commits/rsalveti-ti-omap4 Aug 17 16:28:33 mopdenacker: if you haven't already, could you post bootlog and EDID... I'll look in one minute Aug 17 16:28:49 GrueMaster, so for me its definitely dbus related, if i get to the shell after oem-config failed i can see dbus not running, it fails to start due to the file /var/lib/dbus/machine-id already existing, if i delete that file and start up dbus (service dbus start) the system hardlocks Aug 17 16:29:15 Interesting. Aug 17 16:29:28 I'm retrying on beagle now. Aug 17 16:30:03 though i would still blame the kernel, dbus shouldnt be able to lock up the system hard Aug 17 16:30:36 rsalveti, robclark, I can already share the bootargs that work: omapdss.hdmicode=35, omapdss.hdmimode=0. I'll reboot to get the bootlog. Aug 17 16:30:39 ahh, sorry, back.. Aug 17 16:30:54 mopdenacker: this looks like the issue w/ framebuffer resize.. Aug 17 16:31:06 robclark: could be Aug 17 16:31:19 mopdenacker, looks like you should use two mice Aug 17 16:31:25 unfortunately rsalveti was having problems with one of those patches, and I haven't had time to debug yet ;-) Aug 17 16:31:33 :-) Aug 17 16:31:45 robclark: for now I'm just skipping it Aug 17 16:32:04 ogra: good idea. We have 2 hands, why shouldn't we use 2 mice ;-) Aug 17 16:32:10 :) Aug 17 16:34:04 fwiw rsalveti... what I suspect might be needed w/ that second patch, is an acquire_console_sem() before the fb_set_var() calls (in omapfb-main.c in size_notify()) and a release_console_sem() afterwards.. although that seems a bit ugly to me Aug 17 16:34:35 at least w/ my kernel, I get some backtraces because of a callback that is called indirectly from fb_set_var() which is expecting console lock to be held Aug 17 16:34:56 robclark: oh, ok, makes sense Aug 17 16:35:17 my theory is that on your kernel that somehow causes a more severe result than just warning msg Aug 17 16:36:10 robclark: probably, as the screen seems to be fine but it stays with just a black screen Aug 17 16:36:23 lag: installing your kernel Aug 17 16:36:37 lag: what's the difference? Aug 17 16:36:50 rsalveti: Cheers buddy Aug 17 16:44:08 lag: 2.6.34-903-omap4 (root@tangerine): working fine with my usb Aug 17 16:44:24 my / fs is in a usb hd :-) Aug 17 16:44:42 lag: any other test? Aug 17 16:46:00 rsalveti: Nope, thanks :) Aug 17 16:50:16 lag: http://people.canonical.com/~hrw/ubuntu-maverick-armel-cross-compilers/ for linaro cross compiler Aug 17 16:50:23 I'm using it here, works fine Aug 17 16:50:29 just don't compile u-boot with 4.5 hehe Aug 17 16:51:53 ogra: did you had time to look at the pybootchartgui bug? Aug 17 16:52:38 rsalveti, robclark: here's the bootlog. Unfortunately, there are module loading errors because I couldn't install the package (board not fully booted yet) Aug 17 16:53:06 http://pastebin.com/QrvhMEaN Aug 17 16:53:17 mopdenacker: you can install the package using qemu, with your sd card at your host pc Aug 17 16:53:27 or just copy the kernel modules Aug 17 16:53:41 k, will look in a few minutes... in a call again :-( Aug 17 16:53:46 mopdenacker: can you also get the edid from it? Aug 17 16:54:39 rsalveti: how can I get it? I don't see it in the boot log... Aug 17 16:55:49 mopdenacker: adding omapdss.debug=1 to the boot args would help also, so we can get more information from the display driver Aug 17 16:56:04 mopdenacker: after login, get the dmesg output Aug 17 16:56:08 rsalveti: ah, right! Thanks Aug 17 16:56:12 so you can get the debug lines from the kernel Aug 17 16:56:31 Not sure I will get to a command line. I'll copy/paste the serial console. Aug 17 16:56:39 mopdenacker: to get the edid, install the package read-edid and run parse-edid /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/edid Aug 17 16:56:56 mopdenacker: you can change the boot.scr from your sd card Aug 17 16:57:15 and add the command line argument you want Aug 17 16:57:30 rsalveti: right. Aug 17 16:57:53 mopdenacker: put your sd card at your host, mount the first partition and you'll see the boot.scr Aug 17 16:58:14 mopdenacker: dd if=boot.scr of=boot.script bs=1 skip=72 Aug 17 16:58:19 then edit boot.script Aug 17 16:58:46 and run mkimage -A arm -T script -C none -n "Ubuntu boot script" -d boot.script boot.scr to generate the boot.scr again Aug 17 16:59:17 rsalveti: thanks, I already have these details on OMAPpedia. Aug 17 16:59:30 ok :-) Aug 17 16:59:32 and I already have done this. Aug 17 17:00:04 Anyway, thanks for the dd tip to create the boot.script file. I didn't think of this. Aug 17 17:00:22 This is a kind of "uboot dump-image" command ;-) Aug 17 17:00:54 rsalveti: sorry, I really gotta go now. Is the EDID the only thing you need? Aug 17 17:01:21 edid and dmesg with omapdss.debug=1 Aug 17 17:01:27 with this we can check what went wrong Aug 17 17:02:51 rsalveti: good! Thanks a lot! I'll be away from my board tomorrow, but you will have these on Thursday. Aug 17 17:03:03 mopdenacker: np :-) Aug 17 17:04:42 lunch time Aug 17 17:09:38 rsalveti, uploaded Aug 17 17:10:01 ogra: nice, thanks :-) Aug 17 17:27:45 ogra: not dbus. Just started running A3 on beagle. Upgraded kernel & reboot ok. Upgraded dbus & reboot ok. Will look at other packages in am. Aug 17 17:28:24 "May" be apparmor. will look tomorrow. Aug 17 17:28:44 I have a list of package upgrades. Aug 17 17:29:10 anyways, beer time. My peers are calling me. Aug 17 17:35:30 lag: hey! Aug 17 17:41:40 your peers or your beers are calling you ? :-) Aug 17 18:11:00 Say, anyone know of a packaged browser that runs on directfb, or qt-embedded? Aug 17 18:11:10 ... and supports css and javascript. Aug 17 18:12:40 opera mini ? Aug 17 18:15:17 Well, I'd be rendering local files. Aug 17 18:25:01 ah, and say, where's nmcli? Aug 17 18:26:14 aa Aug 17 18:55:39 suihkulokki: agreed Aug 17 19:37:26 ls -l Aug 17 19:37:30 argh :-) Aug 18 01:06:54 prpplague: I won't try it, its extremely fragile, and doesn't work as well as you'd expect it to Aug 18 01:09:36 NCommander: the distcc? Aug 18 01:09:54 prpplague: yes Aug 18 01:10:31 NCommander: well i'm just wondering how the build farms of HP/compaq were so successful Aug 18 01:11:51 prpplague: they threw a lot of hardware a tthe problem with QEMU Aug 18 01:12:43 NCommander: so it doesn't look as though it is a simply implementation Aug 18 01:13:27 prpplague: I recommend you ask the OBS/HP guys about it. I only used icecc for building OOo seperate of the Ubuntu infrastructure Aug 18 01:13:56 NCommander: yea, it's a back burner project, i'll get to it soon Aug 18 02:31:31 "PVRShell: Unable to create surface" Aug 18 02:31:38 er, will go in #beagle. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 18 02:59:57 2010