**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 30 02:59:57 2010 Sep 30 05:28:40 berco: can you share with us the file /usr/share/alsa/cards/SDP4430.conf? want to test with latest audio patch series Sep 30 05:28:59 I'm already getting SDP4430 - SDP4430 from /proc/asound/cards Sep 30 06:24:13 ... Can anyone assist me in setting up an ARM toolchain for ubuntu x86 Sep 30 06:27:20 Xase, What are you seeking to accomplish? Sep 30 06:27:32 Xase: with maverick you just need to isntall the correct packages Sep 30 06:27:33 To build the android Kernel for an arm device. Sep 30 06:27:52 /bin/sh: arm-eabi-gcc: not found Sep 30 06:27:52 I have Maverick. Sep 30 06:27:56 What packages? Sep 30 06:28:05 gcc-4.5-arm-linux-gnueabi for example Sep 30 06:28:08 ... Sep 30 06:28:09 Xase, Which release are you running? Sep 30 06:28:15 just give apt-cache search arm-linux Sep 30 06:28:19 Well that would explain that's why I couldn't find it. Sep 30 06:28:21 Lol Sep 30 06:28:26 you should see the cross packages Sep 30 06:28:28 I had no idea that's what apt-cache did. Sep 30 06:29:19 Man... I wish there was a "ubuntu-phone" I could be running instead. Sep 30 06:29:28 Or if MeeGo was a little more... well going. Sep 30 06:29:32 :D Sep 30 06:29:37 Xase, It's called "Kubuntu-Mobile" Sep 30 06:29:43 No effin way >_> Sep 30 06:29:52 Mostly gets tested on the n900s Sep 30 06:30:00 ... I almost bought one of those. Sep 30 06:30:10 But needs a few hacks, because the n900 kernel isn't open, etc. Sep 30 06:30:28 Also works for i386 phones (but actually doesn't have the driver for the baseband chip in my x86 phone) Sep 30 06:30:30 the kernel is open Sep 30 06:30:46 ... there are x86 phones? Sep 30 06:30:48 rsalveti, Not according to the kubuntu-mobile guys 12 hours ago. Are you sure? Sep 30 06:30:52 Now you're just blowing my mind. Sep 30 06:31:00 Xase, Yes, but this isn't the best channel to discuss them :) Sep 30 06:31:02 persia: well, afaik yes Sep 30 06:31:04 Of course not. Sep 30 06:31:12 But now I must google explosively. Sep 30 06:31:16 you could try upstream + additional patches from the stock kernel Sep 30 06:31:20 rsalveti, Maybe some closed drivers or something? I dunno: there's a special procedure. Sep 30 06:31:21 you can grab the kernel sources from it Sep 30 06:31:57 generally you should just take care of the battery and watchdog stuff Sep 30 06:32:02 to avoid random resets Sep 30 06:32:04 Hmm Sep 30 06:32:18 still reports: /bin/sh: arm-eabi-gcc: not found Sep 30 06:32:33 rsalveti, You might want to touch base with rbelem and ian_brasil: they'd love to have a less complicated procedure :) Sep 30 06:32:41 Xase, Which release are you running? Sep 30 06:32:46 Maverick. Sep 30 06:32:48 Xase: after installing the correct packages you should see arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc Sep 30 06:33:11 persia: sure, I worked with them directly at indt already, will try to ping them later Sep 30 06:33:13 And if your build file needs arm-eabi-gcc, you'll have to modify the build file. Sep 30 06:33:16 to understand what's going on :-) Sep 30 06:33:20 /bin/sh: arm-eabi-gcc: not found Sep 30 06:33:25 rsalveti, I thought you'd find them familiar names :) Sep 30 06:33:55 ln -s arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc arm-eabi-gcc ? Sep 30 06:33:58 * rsalveti listening a cool mp3 from temple of the dog at his omap 4 board Sep 30 06:34:06 with latest patches Sep 30 06:34:15 Wouldn't just a symbolic link be fine? Sep 30 06:34:17 but still manual work on alsa side Sep 30 06:34:27 Xase: question is, why? Sep 30 06:34:35 your build script is the wrong guy here Sep 30 06:34:42 ... so I don't have to keep modifying stuff. Sep 30 06:34:51 I didn't create the build script. Sep 30 06:34:56 Blame Google. Sep 30 06:34:56 well, you can then create a link and mess with your system :-) Sep 30 06:35:17 but I guess that at least this part is expected from you to change it Sep 30 06:35:28 it's the cross-compiler Sep 30 06:36:49 So you'd instead recommend just modifying the build script? Sep 30 06:38:10 yup Sep 30 06:38:29 cooloney: I think I found a possible culprit for the mem issue Sep 30 06:38:43 cooloney: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=rsalveti/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commitdiff;h=644bab98ce980246e6b945962fec9a733a48c325;hp=adaf930e8ae3eaca5d8eda744dfce96caf71447e Sep 30 06:39:12 cooloney: at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=rsalveti/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rsalveti-ti-omap4-1gb I added the previous patches and this latest one on top Sep 30 06:39:25 Darn that's inexplicably complicated at the moment. Sep 30 06:39:30 Lemme find my CTRL+F Sep 30 06:39:34 cooloney: you can find the deb file at http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/maverick/kernel/es2/linux-image-2.6.35.3+_2.6.35.3+-87_armel.deb if you want to test it Sep 30 06:39:34 rsalveti: got it, awesome man Sep 30 06:39:53 I'm running the 5th build atm, no issues Sep 30 06:39:57 without highmem Sep 30 06:40:10 if I use highmem I'll always get this problem Sep 30 06:40:13 rsalveti: yeah, let me try it. 2G:2G split right Sep 30 06:40:38 cooloney: we were missing one errata for pl310 Sep 30 06:41:12 cooloney: then I found that at the upstream l-o we already got a patch that selects the errata by default Sep 30 06:41:22 just did the same thing Sep 30 06:41:46 bah arm-eabi-gcc isn't specified in either Kbuild or Makefile >_> Sep 30 06:41:53 rsalveti: so even we enable this errata for pl310, we still needs 2G:2G split and npitre's patch, right? Sep 30 06:41:58 without highmem Sep 30 06:42:01 cooloney: yup Sep 30 06:42:10 rsalveti: thanks, got it Sep 30 06:42:12 cooloney: that could be at least one workaround to use 1gb Sep 30 06:42:20 while we try to debug the highmem issue Sep 30 06:42:29 but would prefer to test highmem with upstream Sep 30 06:42:35 rsalveti: yeah, just in time, a workaround to us 1G for our release Sep 30 06:42:47 but even getting the mmc fix, couldn't get it recognized with upstream kernel Sep 30 06:43:13 rsalveti: yeah, i tried patches in l-o list for mmc of es2.0 board, but the same as you Sep 30 06:43:37 arm-linux-gnueabi-menuconfig? Sep 30 06:44:22 nm Sep 30 06:44:25 I'm reading wrong. Sep 30 06:44:25 cooloney: description of the errata: http://paste.ubuntu.com/503055/ Sep 30 06:44:27 so wrong. Sep 30 06:44:36 Just do yourself a favor and put me on the ignore list. Sep 30 06:45:20 cooloney: so it seems this could be our culprit, just need more testing Sep 30 06:45:38 will let it building during the night and check it tomorrow Sep 30 06:45:42 but so far so good Sep 30 06:46:08 2cpus, with l2, 2g:2g and 1gb support Sep 30 06:46:15 BAH Sep 30 06:47:35 ... Sep 30 06:47:38 Wow. Sep 30 06:47:44 I guess this is goodbye guys. Sep 30 06:47:51 I just rm'd the arm asm Sep 30 06:47:55 from the project file Sep 30 06:48:11 rsalveti: great, man, Sep 30 06:49:00 rsalveti: i will post your patches with npitre's again Sep 30 06:49:37 Sweet. Nevermind. Sep 30 06:49:39 I need sleep. Sep 30 06:50:00 cooloney: with highmem I can easily get Unhandled fault: imprecise external abort Sep 30 06:50:05 ... Sep 30 06:50:06 so probably another issue Sep 30 06:50:24 cooloney: cool, just let do some more testing and then we can post it Sep 30 06:50:27 Too tired 2:49 AM... something about supporting nothing but the Calgary with this source >_> Sep 30 06:50:31 *lets Sep 30 06:52:34 rsalveti: without highmem, it looks like l2 controller pl310 is the root cause. So this errata is necessary. Sep 30 06:52:57 rsalveti: i agree with highmem, it is different from pl310 errata issue. Sep 30 06:54:17 cooloney: yeah Sep 30 06:54:29 there's also some more l2x0 patches going upstream: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=santosh/kernel-omap4-base.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/l2x0-pull-rmk Sep 30 06:54:59 and sram fixes at http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=santosh/kernel-omap4-base.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap_for_2.6.37 Sep 30 06:55:27 rsalveti: yeah, i reviewed that before. those l2x patches are for kexec implementation on omap4 Sep 30 06:55:44 and it follows Thomas Gleixner's generic one Sep 30 06:56:16 yep Sep 30 06:58:08 kexec is awfully nice :) Sep 30 06:59:06 persia: heh, need more testing and backport some patches to enable that. Sep 30 06:59:44 maybe with 2.6.37 on N :-) Sep 30 07:00:03 No worries. I think I need two more cycles before we depend on it :) Sep 30 07:00:13 ... gaddangit Sep 30 07:01:19 I've messed up my source. Sep 30 07:02:18 Gotta read the config a bit more clearly >_> Sep 30 07:06:03 Well see, because I couldn't get it to compile I had modified a ton of crap, so now using the plain source... it compiles out of box. Sep 30 07:06:09 Thanks #ubuntu-arm Sep 30 07:06:50 Xase, So it's working for you now? Sep 30 07:07:50 Kind of... Sep 30 07:08:00 Still getting this "message" Sep 30 07:08:14 arch/arm/mach-msm/board-mot.h:125: error: #error Calgary is the only HW supported by this release Sep 30 07:08:40 And that's after using the source directly from the Calgary source page. Sep 30 07:08:48 I have no clue what it means though so... shrug. Sep 30 07:08:52 And you're targeting a Calgary device? Sep 30 07:09:00 Anyways... anything I can do to help Ubuntu-arm out. Sep 30 07:09:03 Yes Persia. Sep 30 07:09:11 Also known as the Motorola Devour. Sep 30 07:09:26 * persia suspects some subtle machine definition in the cross-compiler somewhere. Sep 30 07:09:44 Should... I speficy TARGET=Calgary ? Sep 30 07:09:57 * persia has no information about the source being compiled. Sep 30 07:10:02 I'm new to any sort of compiling outside of software... Sep 30 07:10:08 If that's a sensible option, try it. Sep 30 07:10:09 It's the source for the Calgary Device. Sep 30 07:11:05 Note that you'll probably get better advice about the specific compilation steps from a Calgary-specific resource (wiki, forum, channel, mailing list, etc.). We mostly focus on running Ubuntu native on ARM. Sep 30 07:11:26 (with a wink and nod at limited cross-compilation) Sep 30 07:11:54 TARGET_PRODUCT=calgary makes sense =/ Sep 30 07:11:56 Yeah. Sep 30 07:12:03 Kind of figured. Sep 30 07:12:11 If there was anything for the Calgary. Sep 30 07:12:17 It's an end-of-lifed device. Sep 30 07:12:29 But I am better off asking in Android perhaps ;) Sep 30 07:12:46 Again, is there anything I can do to help test/debug ARM Ubuntu? Sep 30 07:22:17 Xase, If you happen to have hardware that can run it (e.g. Netwalker, Efika MX, Beagleboard, IGEPv2, Efika SmartBook, etc.) and want to help test and fix bugs, that would be great. Sep 30 07:22:44 =( I will try Sep 30 07:23:04 I might be able to attain something Sep 30 07:23:06 If you don't have any of that, but have other ARMv7+VFP capable armel hardware with a working (recent) linux kernel, please try our userspace. Sep 30 08:35:33 rsalveti: sorry, I didn't see your post earlier Sep 30 08:36:05 rsalveti: I just attached the file to bug #637947 Sep 30 08:36:06 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 Sep 30 08:36:23 rsalveti: do you have all you need kernel wise? Sep 30 08:54:25 ogra: you about to help merge? :-) Sep 30 09:25:33 If I want to make a maverick target image, which version of rootstock should I use? Sep 30 09:26:41 sveinse, theoretically, anything ought work to some degree, but 0.1.99.4 would be most likely to have the best support. Sep 30 09:26:53 thanks Sep 30 11:55:07 Hi. Can somebody point to the oo.org build time problem ? Sep 30 12:58:14 * dcordes drops a pin Sep 30 12:59:10 * ogra shades his ears from the noise Sep 30 13:01:10 ^^ Sep 30 13:09:40 I see a disruption of the force in 09-29 image Sep 30 13:10:03 it won't start oemconfig althoug I have the semephore set Sep 30 13:10:25 hmm, has been tested a lot though (since it's the RC candidate) Sep 30 13:10:33 what arch ? omap or omap4 ? Sep 30 13:21:48 ogra: I picked the omap4 and applied the few changes as usual Sep 30 13:22:07 "the few changes" ? Sep 30 13:23:01 it's not much really Sep 30 13:23:05 I install my kernel modules Sep 30 13:23:14 add few networking scripts Sep 30 13:23:23 and do Sep 30 13:23:35 'touch /var/lib/oem-config/run' Sep 30 13:23:43 usually after that, I start the rootfs and it will run oemconfig Sep 30 13:23:48 no problems Sep 30 13:24:13 yeah, it surely does for us Sep 30 13:24:40 It might be corruption then. I see some error message: Sep 30 13:25:22 Use of uninitialized value $item in hash element at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Format/822.pm Sep 30 13:25:46 yeah, smells like Sep 30 13:26:10 need to get to the library and download the new image @ 3,3MB/s againm Sep 30 14:04:29 berco: thanks Sep 30 14:04:55 berco: got the file from latest proposed tree with tons of sound patches Sep 30 14:05:02 *kernel Sep 30 14:15:05 rsalveti: i am going to post out our highmem issue workaround patch including your pl310 errata one. Sep 30 14:15:14 rsalveti: do you think we need more test Sep 30 14:15:46 cooloney: well, just saw that I'm going to the 10th build here Sep 30 14:15:48 no issues Sep 30 14:16:02 so it seems better Sep 30 14:16:08 cooloney: were you able to test? Sep 30 14:16:28 i just tested using usb, didn't test yet with mmc Sep 30 14:16:57 but you can propose it, np, it's a fix anyway that we're not using atm Sep 30 14:17:56 rsalveti: yeah, i tested it on my mmc, just 1 build, it passed. Sep 30 14:18:11 rsalveti: ok, let me post it firstly Sep 30 14:18:13 cool Sep 30 14:21:08 rsalveti: you know, it is quite slow for me to connect with ports.ubuntu.com Sep 30 14:21:13 rsalveti: drive me crazy Sep 30 14:21:28 rsalveti: i will test audio fixing tomorrow. Sep 30 14:23:28 yeah, can imagine Sep 30 14:25:08 rsalveti: thx for the testing, it seems like that you're never sleep Sep 30 14:26:58 cooloney: I try to :-) Sep 30 14:27:11 cooloney: I saw you changed my patch to change just the config file Sep 30 14:27:41 while it works for us, as we build just one flavor, I decided to change the Kconfig because this was the same change that went upstream Sep 30 14:27:53 that would fix the issue for all ARCH_OMAP4 boards Sep 30 14:29:23 but I'm ok with your patch, just to let you know why I changed the Kconfig :-) Sep 30 15:08:17 * rsalveti lunch Sep 30 15:47:19 hmmm... Sep 30 15:47:35 * robclark somehow manages to murder an mmc card with fdisk.. Sep 30 15:49:58 btdt. Sep 30 15:50:39 I usually end up doing a complete nuke at that point. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ Sep 30 15:51:38 no... I no longer even get a device file for the card Sep 30 15:54:20 ouch Sep 30 15:54:29 May need to reboot. Sep 30 15:55:17 Also, I discovered on one of my cards that one of the plastic guides on the side near the contacts had bent covering the contact. Breaking it off fixed it. Sep 30 15:56:57 ogra_ac: For the release notes: upgrading beagle from lucid->maverick can run of of free space if USB drive is 4G or less. Haven't tried yet on larger. Sep 30 15:57:35 mind to talk to skaet and add it to the wiki ` Sep 30 15:57:37 ? Sep 30 15:57:57 I'll drop a not on #u-release. Sep 30 15:58:02 note even. Sep 30 16:26:42 ogra_ac: ping Sep 30 16:28:06 prpplague, i'm here Sep 30 16:28:26 ogra_ac: hey, we were discussing possibly using a usb->sata on the bamboo board Sep 30 16:28:33 ogra_ac: any thoughts on that? Sep 30 16:29:07 you will be easily maxing out the USB with that i guess Sep 30 16:29:45 the babbage imx51 board has such a setup, not really an advantage over a simple external USB disk Sep 30 16:29:54 well the EHCI through put it pretty stable Sep 30 16:30:03 ogra_ac: are they using OHCI or EHCI ? Sep 30 16:30:09 ehci Sep 30 16:30:25 ~24MB/sec reported by hdparm Sep 30 16:30:46 ahh Sep 30 16:32:24 and i doubt you can get much more through USb Sep 30 16:33:04 so i guess just attaching SATA to the USB bus wont really gain much over a cheapo external USB disk directly attached to USB Sep 30 16:33:11 yea that is kinda of why i didn't consider it Sep 30 16:33:23 other than size of storage Sep 30 16:33:34 i thought there was a way to attach it differently ? Sep 30 16:33:43 It would be nice for convenience, but won't enhance performance. Sep 30 16:33:45 gpio? Sep 30 16:34:17 ogra_ac: it is possible to do PATA via the GPMC, and then use a PATA->SATA bridge Sep 30 16:34:55 prpplague: maybe even PATA is fine.. I think they still sell those Sep 30 16:34:55 ah Sep 30 16:34:59 ;-) Sep 30 16:35:00 GPMC, right Sep 30 16:35:01 Hmm. PATA<>CF would be interesting. Sep 30 16:35:24 yeah, even PATA would rock Sep 30 16:35:36 GrueMaster: PATA to CF is pretty easy Sep 30 16:36:05 the only thing that would have to be done is a kernel driver to "work the gpmc" like a PATA interface Sep 30 16:36:15 Yes I know. I have 3 running systems that way. Fileserver, firewall, and serial-console monitor. Sep 30 16:36:16 prpplague: well get crackin! ;-P Sep 30 16:36:47 GPMC->PATA would probably drive two hd's, wouldn't it? A master and slave.. Sep 30 16:37:00 robclark: gotta finish current project first Sep 30 16:37:12 Pfft. Multitask. Sep 30 16:37:18 :P Sep 30 16:37:27 robclark: not sure i have enough chipselect signals to do two Sep 30 16:37:48 hmm.. Sep 30 16:41:21 prpplague: I guess I don't need both LED's.. depopulate one, some blue wire, and use that gpio as an extra CS? Sep 30 16:41:53 robclark: negative Sep 30 16:42:08 robclark: the controls need to be tied to the gpmc controller Sep 30 16:42:30 robclark: the gpmc has it's on chipselects and such to control memory read/writes Sep 30 16:57:20 ARGH !!!! Sep 30 16:57:36 who designed the pandaboard.org page !!!!! Sep 30 16:57:56 * ogra_ac just linked the logo in a blog post ... Sep 30 16:58:12 at least i thought i link the logo Sep 30 16:58:18 sigh Sep 30 16:58:29 the whole page is a jpeg Sep 30 16:58:37 Heh. Sep 30 16:58:45 what an insanity !! Sep 30 16:59:56 ogra_ac: hehe Sep 30 17:00:12 they asked already to change to at least a png Sep 30 17:01:46 that wont make it smaller though ... i just bloated planet.ubuntu.com with it Sep 30 17:03:39 I don't know what you guys are talking about... pandaboard.org looks fine in lynx ;-) Sep 30 17:03:41 * robclark ducks Sep 30 17:03:47 LOL Sep 30 17:03:52 HA Sep 30 17:04:44 ogra_ac: maybe orbarron could send you a more appropriately sized logo? Sep 30 17:05:07 robclark, well, its fine now Sep 30 17:05:23 i'll just live with the embarrasement Sep 30 17:10:11 Can rootstock be used to build debian root fle systems? Sep 30 17:12:05 gourneau, i dont think anyone tested that ever Sep 30 17:13:17 ogra_ac: any ac100 kernel news ? Sep 30 17:13:43 Maybe it will be me then, I want to use Ubuntu. How are the seed images defined? Sep 30 17:14:01 dcordes, see planet.ubuntu.com Sep 30 17:14:37 (no, no kernel news, but fully working images Sep 30 17:14:40 ) Sep 30 17:15:28 ogra_ac: ah well didn't see any user space problems .. Sep 30 17:15:42 dcordes, plenty Sep 30 17:15:49 the SoC doesn't support neon right ? Sep 30 17:15:54 right Sep 30 17:17:49 what userspace related problems do you see ? Sep 30 17:17:58 did you create a meta bug ? Sep 30 17:17:59 android kernel Sep 30 17:18:02 no Sep 30 17:18:23 i dont think you will see any official support for the device any time soon Sep 30 17:18:35 haha sometimes you make me laugh Sep 30 17:19:03 feel free to create one though Sep 30 17:19:15 I am looking to make things work, not if they will magically fix. Sep 30 17:19:36 dcordes, thne tak to phh in #ac100 :) Sep 30 17:19:43 I know the bum Sep 30 17:19:46 *then talk Sep 30 17:19:59 he has done a lot of low level stuff Sep 30 17:20:05 and is still doing Sep 30 17:20:12 without kernel source ? Sep 30 17:20:31 well, there kind of is kernel source Sep 30 17:20:53 its not as if there wouldnt be public branches of tegra eclair Sep 30 17:20:58 now you got me all confused Sep 30 17:21:14 the kernel supports modules ;) Sep 30 17:21:30 you cant change the core indeed Sep 30 17:22:29 Does anyone know of a good Ubuntu tablet about 7 inches, with a host USB port. The smartq v7 is the best I can find. Sep 30 17:29:21 gourneau: htc hd2 but you need to supply external power for the usb and the display is not 7 inches Sep 30 17:29:51 and you can run ubuntu natively ? Sep 30 17:36:35 orga_ac: pandaboard.org is a temp site for now... plz forgive the jpeg Sep 30 17:36:49 ogra_ac: yes Sep 30 17:37:20 ogra_ac: http://vimeo.com/14630263 Sep 30 17:37:24 orbarron, i dont care about jpeg, i care about that i right clicked the logo and pasted ion my blog post ... now my post has the whole site in it Sep 30 17:37:32 ogra_ac: with full snappyness Sep 30 17:38:21 lol bluepaste :> Sep 30 17:38:35 ogra_ac: Do any of our initramfs scripts touch nand on beagle? I keep getting nand i/o errors on mtdblock0. Sep 30 17:38:57 GrueMaster, nope Sep 30 17:38:59 But only after upgrading lucid to maverick (which replaces the kernel in nand). Sep 30 17:39:05 GrueMaster, not in maverick Sep 30 17:39:05 Very odd. Sep 30 17:39:13 That's what I thought. Sep 30 17:39:14 oh, upgrade is different Sep 30 17:39:23 that still uses nand indeed Sep 30 17:39:27 No, this is running a preinstalled image. Sep 30 17:39:50 Is there any known breakage in 27th omap4 preinstalled image ? Sep 30 17:39:58 But I only get the error if the maverick kernel is also in nand. Sep 30 17:40:14 dcordes: Use the 29th. It will be the official RC. Sep 30 17:41:29 GrueMaster: ok I downloaded it already but had some strange problem Sep 30 17:42:04 sounds like it must be on my end if you consider it for RC Sep 30 17:42:31 somebody interested in adding HTC HD2 maverick RC infomration in planet ? Sep 30 17:43:21 then we have covered the full embedded family Sep 30 17:43:41 smartbook, dev board and cell phone Sep 30 18:12:23 nevermind :) Sep 30 18:17:30 grrrrr Sep 30 18:17:35 someone needs to spank the icon designers Sep 30 18:18:53 hi all , i have igep board but in minicom i am getting message as ���� Sep 30 18:19:00 no boot prompt Sep 30 18:19:48 devilhorns: Are you referring to bug 651391? Sep 30 18:19:48 Launchpad bug 651391 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Changing desktop font changed entire theme appearance in une-efl (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/651391 Sep 30 18:20:10 GrueMaster, no, gimme a sec, I will show you my "gripe" :) Sep 30 18:20:30 ajay: probably missing x-loader and u-boot Sep 30 18:21:19 but green light is glowing on that board Sep 30 18:21:32 GrueMaster, ok, keep in mind when you look @ this, that my code does everything properly (in that it centers the icons) Sep 30 18:21:32 http://home.comcast.net/~devilhorns/files/unity_efl.png Sep 30 18:21:46 GrueMaster, but, look @ the button Sep 30 18:22:11 and looking @ the icon itself, you can see "the problem" Sep 30 18:22:39 Yep. Icons aren't centered in their frame. Bad. Sep 30 18:22:49 yep :) Sep 30 18:23:04 now what kinda moron makes icons like that ... *sigh* Sep 30 18:23:05 rsalveti, is this happens due to any null modem cable error as well? Sep 30 18:23:16 There's probably a patent if they did. Sep 30 18:23:34 ajay: could be, but generally you get tons of weird characters when getting garbage Sep 30 18:23:36 a patent for centering icons ? I highly doubt that :) Sep 30 18:23:51 ajay: are you open it with 115200? Sep 30 18:23:57 yes Sep 30 18:24:06 Never know with software patents. Sep 30 18:24:09 hw and sw flow control is off Sep 30 18:24:27 generally I never use minicom, just screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 is enough for me Sep 30 18:24:35 GrueMaster, well, if that is the case, then every designer on the planet is in trouble :) I mean really, how Doesn't center images ? :) Sep 30 18:24:36 but could be cable issues also Sep 30 18:24:46 maybe wrong pins Sep 30 18:24:51 heh Sep 30 18:25:08 rsalveti, i have checked i am using cross cable Sep 30 18:25:11 null modem Sep 30 18:25:33 IDC10 DB9 also as mentioned in websites Sep 30 18:27:00 rsalveti, for screen /dev/ttyUSB3 115200 also i am getting just blank screen Sep 30 18:27:12 ajay: any garbage? Sep 30 18:27:16 nothinmg Sep 30 18:27:31 if i write then it is getting garbage Sep 30 18:28:16 rsalveti, if i write same thing is getting printed Sep 30 18:28:42 hm Sep 30 18:28:52 just for enter key getting printed at start � Sep 30 18:29:07 GrueMaster, btw Sep 30 18:29:07 is it cable problem? Sep 30 18:29:19 or uboot xloader got corrupted Sep 30 18:29:25 that bug is not in une-efl ... it's a control-center (appearance properties) problem Sep 30 18:29:40 That's what I thought when I filed it. Sep 30 18:29:47 ajay: could be, but it it was corrupted you should not get any echo from uart Sep 30 18:30:14 rsalveti, but not even getting uboot prompt Sep 30 18:30:35 or any message saying loading Sep 30 18:31:02 yea, the issue is that "appearance-properties" creates a "custom" theme whenever you change any "looks" (fonts, colors, etc). When it creates that "custom" theme, it takes the base theme, changes all the properties for it in gconf, then saves it. When it does the changes, it reads the values of the original theme (icons, colors, etc) and updates gconf values for that Sep 30 18:31:12 ajay: are you doing that with sudo ? Sep 30 18:31:22 ajay: I would first suggest you to make sure you're using a valid x-loader and u-boot Sep 30 18:31:31 if I'm not wrong, there's a default one at the nand Sep 30 18:31:36 so modifying anything, resets all the gconf properties to default for that "base theme", and saves the custom values Sep 30 18:31:49 then checking if the cable and etc is correct Sep 30 18:31:50 so it's reseting "icon theme" to the default for that original theme Sep 30 18:32:23 pcacjr, i am doing with root Sep 30 18:32:53 rsalveti, how to make sure that i am using valid xloader or u-boot Sep 30 18:33:03 rsalveti: should he at least get some weird bytes on the screen ? Sep 30 18:33:50 GrueMaster, @ any rate, I'm not going to "doctor" my code for badly designed icons :) the centering issue will remain just that. an "issue" because of bad icons :) Sep 30 18:34:10 I wouldn't either. File a bug on the icon set. Sep 30 18:34:12 ajay: getting the stock one, provided by the igep website Sep 30 18:34:25 pcacjr__: yup Sep 30 18:34:40 GrueMaster, indeed :) Will do that later when I have some time Sep 30 18:35:05 ajay: http://shop.igep.es/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=8&zenid=701aa01925001b84ed070559d8ac0851 Sep 30 18:35:08 probably same one from beagle Sep 30 18:35:55 rsalveti, i have same one Sep 30 18:36:30 ajay: http://www.igep.es/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99&Itemid=112&dir=/var/www/vhosts/igep.es/httpdocs/downloads/01-ISEE_Products/IGEPv2/SW_Releases/binaries Sep 30 18:37:55 rsalveti, shall i keep xloader and uboot in sdcard Sep 30 18:38:01 from above link Sep 30 18:38:59 yep, at least at beagle you can boot using the x-loader and u-boot from the sdcard by using the user button, don't know if we have the same for igepv2 Sep 30 18:39:24 rsalveti, no there is no button for igep Sep 30 18:39:46 rsalveti, http://labs.igep.es/index.php/How_to_recover_a_IGEP_bricked_board Sep 30 18:40:00 this site is for showing to recover a board Sep 30 18:40:12 but not sure shall i follow these steps Sep 30 18:42:47 bbl Sep 30 18:43:00 ajay: well, if you just follow these steps you'll for sure be able to flash a valid x-loader and u-boot, and get something at your uart Sep 30 18:43:33 if you set up your sd and still see garbage, than your problem could be related with your cable setup Sep 30 18:56:02 anyone running unity ? Sep 30 19:00:29 rsalveti, is this problem due to power cable also? Sep 30 19:00:53 ajay: just if you're not using the proper 5v one Sep 30 19:18:06 bug 607752 Sep 30 19:18:07 Launchpad bug 607752 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] devmem2 needs packaging (affects: 2) (heat: 59)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607752 Sep 30 19:18:14 hrm Sep 30 19:18:23 rsalveti, i tried above wiki of recovering brick igep board Sep 30 19:18:47 but for this also i am getting similar error as no messages Sep 30 19:19:10 if i press any key from keyboard hetting printed as � Sep 30 19:21:13 so probably an issue at your cable setup, or usb-serial converter Sep 30 19:27:29 rsalveti: Plenty of people get this issue with IGEP Sep 30 19:27:36 There is a hardware grounding issue I'm sure Sep 30 19:28:04 one workaround is using a differnt USB serial adapter, or a real PC serial port; another workaround is plugging a mini-USB cable to the IGEP to help grounding Sep 30 19:30:46 lool: hm, interesting Sep 30 19:36:34 hi guys, anyone working on i.MX51 Sep 30 19:38:10 amitk does Sep 30 19:40:53 ogra_ac, thanks Sep 30 20:03:07 rsalveti: Can you download http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/maverick/main/installer-armel/20100211ubuntu28/images/omap/netboot/omap/* and try on your beagleXM? I am seeing it either not detecting my USB keyboard or it is locking up hard. Sep 30 20:03:29 GrueMaster: sure Sep 30 20:03:46 You will have to copy these to an existing image partition1 to get MLO & u-boot.bin Sep 30 20:04:05 sure, np Sep 30 20:04:32 GrueMaster: which image did you use as base? Sep 30 20:04:41 RC Sep 30 20:04:46 Or 20100929. Sep 30 20:05:04 OK, ping back you in some minutes Sep 30 20:07:52 too bad u-boot for beagle doesn't support tftp. Make my life much easier. Sep 30 20:13:30 rsalveti, GLES packages uploaded Sep 30 20:13:53 cross your fingers that the release team lets them in :) Sep 30 20:14:08 ogra_ac: cool, let's wait and see :-) Sep 30 20:14:18 ogra_ac: where can I track it? Sep 30 20:14:27 i filed bug 652347 Sep 30 20:14:28 Launchpad bug 652347 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] opengles-sgx-omap3 and powervr-omap3 need to be packaged for maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652347 Sep 30 20:14:43 * ogra_ac hopes thats enough to justify the FFe Sep 30 20:15:26 rsalveti, some clear final statement for bug 607752 would be helpful btw Sep 30 20:15:27 Launchpad bug 607752 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] devmem2 needs packaging (affects: 2) (heat: 59)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/607752 Sep 30 20:16:40 yup, devmem2 is very useful but ugly Sep 30 20:16:59 right Sep 30 20:17:15 the discussion just doesnt end clearly with "we will use it" Sep 30 20:18:08 ok, will comment on it Sep 30 20:36:46 rsalveti: I get the same results on the beagle & beagleXM with the netboot image. complete lockup. Sep 30 20:37:20 weird, my image is just resizing, will test it when it finishes Sep 30 20:37:29 now creating swap... Sep 30 20:37:32 resizing? Sep 30 20:37:47 It should boot into the debian installer. Sep 30 20:38:26 yep, but I was going to test your kernel to see if it works or not Sep 30 20:38:47 Make sure you are using the boot.scr, uImage and uInitrd from http://ports.ubuntu.com/dists/maverick/main/installer-armel/20100211ubuntu28/images/omap/netboot/omap/* Sep 30 20:38:49 I just flashed 20100929 Sep 30 20:38:57 Oh. Sep 30 20:39:00 yup, will use that Sep 30 20:39:28 No need to go through the preinst boot stuff. Sep 30 20:40:08 I know, just wanted to at least have a proper rootfs Sep 30 20:40:19 ok, will use your kernel and initrd now Sep 30 20:40:36 Why? It creates one (or it is supposed to). Sep 30 20:41:33 brb Sep 30 20:42:20 rsalveti, the initrd contains the debian-installer Sep 30 20:42:27 it will wipe your rootfs Sep 30 20:42:48 oh, ok, didn't know the debian-installer was inside it Sep 30 20:43:06 yep, so just booting it should be enough Sep 30 20:43:08 let me try Sep 30 20:43:20 * rsalveti used with the pre-installed image Sep 30 20:43:29 the great thing is that the whole installer lives in ram Sep 30 20:43:46 so you can do whatever you like to your disks Sep 30 20:49:04 whats the simplest way of getting a rootfs for my PXA272 based PDA ? i should be able to roll my own kernel Sep 30 20:49:21 see /topic Sep 30 20:49:24 ;) Sep 30 20:49:28 is that the simplest way? Sep 30 20:49:31 allready saw that Sep 30 20:49:38 GrueMaster: yup, no usb Sep 30 20:49:50 GrueMaster: probably missing modules... Sep 30 20:49:55 rsalveti, yeah Sep 30 20:49:56 let me boot with uart Sep 30 20:50:04 old re-occuring bug Sep 30 20:51:02 ogra, oh never mind, it cant get much simpler than that i see :p Sep 30 20:51:23 ward|, yep :) Sep 30 20:53:09 no modules at all Sep 30 20:53:15 not good Sep 30 20:55:57 so together with a 2.6.x kernel this should work fine? is there a minimum version or something? Sep 30 20:59:16 ward|, udev in ubuntu is usually tied closely to the kernel version Sep 30 20:59:32 ward|, so you should make sure yu have something matching Sep 30 21:00:12 ogra, ah, so if i only got one specific kernel version i can compile, i should forget about it and use another distro? Sep 30 21:00:41 which version do you have ? Sep 30 21:04:13 ogra, let me see Sep 30 21:04:51 ogra, 2.6.26 Sep 30 21:04:57 ugh Sep 30 21:05:01 thats ancient Sep 30 21:05:13 with luck you can use jaunty on that Sep 30 21:05:29 but jaunty is EOL in a few weeks Sep 30 21:05:47 well its not really coneniant updatiung the kernel all the time on a closed source PDA lol Sep 30 21:06:08 indeed Sep 30 21:08:05 Ok, netboot for dove works. Just finished. Sep 30 21:16:33 GrueMaster: so, no modules at your uInitrd Sep 30 21:16:49 Well now. That would be a bad thing. Sep 30 21:22:01 ndec: upstream kernel is activating the errata for arch_omap4: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/183142/ Sep 30 21:22:18 so I believe it should be fine with it Sep 30 21:22:47 at least my board is still up and building after using the errata Sep 30 21:23:16 20 hours, and 9 builds Sep 30 21:24:40 rsalveti: but my understanding is that this errata is not needed on es2.0, it's fixed in the arm chip in es2.0... Sep 30 21:24:48 rsalveti: but i might be wrong ;-) Sep 30 21:25:34 ndec: yep, thought the same but couldn't find anything about it =\ Sep 30 21:30:00 GrueMaster: any idea why we're building the initrd without any modules? Sep 30 21:30:18 ogra: said that this is a re-occuring bug Sep 30 21:30:20 rsalveti, space Sep 30 21:30:23 Nope. Ask an engineer. btw, meeting. Sep 30 21:30:33 yup Sep 30 22:00:36 ogra, i think i found out why the devs chose 2.6.26 lol Sep 30 22:01:00 ( ogra, provided you are ogra_ac) Sep 30 22:01:25 yes, i'm both on differnt devices in different rooms Sep 30 22:01:32 yeah just making sure :) Sep 30 22:02:24 the debian EABI docs use this version aswell, and they make it clear only that one is supposed to work: "NOTE: Take a lot of care, that _only this old linux kernel version works_." Sep 30 22:03:19 so maybe there are a lot more devices lie mine with this outdated kernel Sep 30 22:04:02 thought i should mention it so ubuntu-arm devs can investigate this if they want to Sep 30 22:09:40 ndec / rsalveti: which errata? Sep 30 22:10:06 robclark: PL310_ERRATA_588369 Sep 30 22:10:24 ok.. let me check Sep 30 22:11:05 rsalveti: ok.. this one seems to apply to the cortex-a9 IP, prior to r2p0 Sep 30 22:11:40 (just need to check which rev on cortex is in es2.0) Sep 30 22:12:05 r1p2.. so keep the errata enabled Sep 30 22:15:53 robclark: oh, cool, thanks for identifying it Sep 30 22:20:37 rsalveti: btw, was there any new discoveries on highmem in last couple days? Sep 30 22:21:08 robbiew: well, we were first trying to debug the issue without highmem, because we always face problems when using highmem Sep 30 22:21:19 with one cpu, without l2 Sep 30 22:21:32 so then I found that we were not using this errata yesterday Sep 30 22:21:39 oh, ok.. so same sort of issue even without highmem? Sep 30 22:21:51 so w/ PL310 errata patch, it is getting more stable? Sep 30 22:22:00 gave it a try and I'm running without highmem, 2g:2g, 1gb, 2cpus and doing well Sep 30 22:22:23 ok.. that sounds like an improvement Sep 30 22:22:32 robclark: more than 20 hours building Sep 30 22:22:36 have you tried w/ highmem yet? Sep 30 22:22:38 no issues Sep 30 22:23:06 robclark: yup, and still get the issue easily, so probably another bug Sep 30 22:24:09 and that is also w/ the nvidia highmem patch? Sep 30 22:24:16 robclark: yup Sep 30 22:24:29 hmm.. ok.. so still another issue lurking :-( Sep 30 22:24:43 yeah :-( but at least we have a workaround to use 1gb now Sep 30 22:24:57 yeah.. I think 2g/2g is way to go for now Sep 30 22:26:30 and the build is now taking less than 2 hours Sep 30 22:26:36 using an external usb disk Sep 30 22:32:47 ohh.. we tried a USB drive at the last sprint, although I think it was quite a slow usb powered hd.. Sep 30 22:39:11 That and it was all ES1 then, wasn't it? Sep 30 22:40:34 probably, and using usb otg Sep 30 22:48:32 rsalveti: Can you confirm Bug #652522? Thanks Sep 30 22:48:34 Launchpad bug 652522 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "modules missing from omap netboot image. (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652522 Sep 30 22:49:02 GrueMaster: sure Sep 30 23:03:04 gourneau, The Netwalker V2 might also meet your needs: 5" tablet, ships with 9.04, USB host, etc. Sep 30 23:24:43 * rsalveti brb Oct 01 00:10:25 persia, link? Oct 01 00:12:23 http://www.sharp.co.jp/netwalker/pct1/index.html Oct 01 00:13:49 http://www.sharp.co.jp/netwalker/pct1/spec/index.html might be more useful for some folk :) Oct 01 00:15:33 no english page? Oct 01 00:15:41 Not from Sharp Oct 01 00:15:46 * persia looks for a reseller Oct 01 00:17:33 http://shop.conics.net/index.php/computers/pda-mid/sharp-netwalker-pc-t1-b.html Oct 01 00:18:36 (also available in Silver) Oct 01 00:20:32 http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/touchbook.htm seems more useful Oct 01 00:20:40 I'm a sucker for a physical keyboard :p Oct 01 00:21:22 cwillu, I also, which is why I got one of http://shop.conics.net/index.php/computers/pda-mid/sharp-netwalker-white.html :) Oct 01 00:21:50 touchbook is too big and heavy to be exciting for me (although it works nice, and I've seen a few folk very happy with them) Oct 01 00:22:40 but gourneau was looking for something like the SmartQ7, and the SmartQ7 can't run modern Ubuntu. Oct 01 00:25:43 In the with-physical-keyboard-but-oversized-for-persia arena, there is also http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/smartbook : I know some Genesi stuff ships with Maverick, but don't know anyone who purchased one of these yet. Oct 01 00:26:37 (and, so, I have no special affinity for i.MX51x based designs: they just happen to be widely available with little waiting today) Oct 01 00:26:47 s/so/no/ Oct 01 00:50:59 persia, lucid not Maverick Oct 01 00:53:23 davidm, The Efika Smartbook ships only with Lucid? The Maverick shipments I heard about were EfikaMXs Oct 01 00:54:01 Or maybe that's just stuff from the developer program. Oct 01 01:03:04 I was thinking of the Genesi stuff Oct 01 01:03:41 If its Maverick it's not something we have done as we do not have a kernel that works with maverick Oct 01 01:04:15 Nobody is shipping our kernels today, except us. All of Touchbook / Smartbook / Netwalker require custom kernels, sadly. Oct 01 01:04:23 The iMX51 kernel was already a release behind on lucid Oct 01 01:04:42 I think Genesi has a maverick imx51 private kernel Oct 01 01:04:42 and Freescale does not have one new enough Oct 01 01:04:54 There's a maverick image download for the efikamxes Oct 01 01:04:54 Ah, hrm. Could be old. Oct 01 01:05:00 They would have had to forward port "a lot" of stuff Oct 01 01:05:15 lool, Do you have a link, or know the kernel version offhand? Oct 01 01:05:18 bottom of http://www.powerdeveloper.org/platforms/efikamx/linux Oct 01 01:05:28 Their kernels are on gitorious Oct 01 01:05:46 http://www.gitorious.org/efikamx/linux-efikamx Oct 01 01:05:53 there's a -kernel for the smartbooks as well Oct 01 01:06:03 Sorry for confusion, by "internal" I meant "specific to that board and not in Ubuntu" Oct 01 01:06:08 it's 2.6.31 based though Oct 01 01:06:14 will be interesting what kernel they shoehorned in Oct 01 01:06:31 Ah so it is a lucid kernel Oct 01 01:06:39 OK. 2.6.31 is a bit aging, but with enough sauce, I suspect it could work just fine. It has the new input stuff. Oct 01 01:10:10 lool, Do you know if the linaro imx51 tree supports the Genesi or Sharp products? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 01 02:59:57 2010