**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 01 02:59:58 2010 Oct 01 03:58:59 cooloney: hey, just sent one email saying that I didn't get any issues while testing current kernel Oct 01 03:59:18 and nice that the patch was easily merged, and we got a new version already Oct 01 03:59:31 rsalveti: thank you so much for testing. Oct 01 03:59:53 np Oct 01 03:59:56 rsalveti: helped a lot. I am going to verify the auido patches, then send out the pull request Oct 01 04:00:13 rsalveti: so far did you meet any audio issue with the audio fix Oct 01 04:00:18 now the next step is to activate 1gb at the pre-installed image, and let more people test it Oct 01 04:00:59 rsalveti: agree, ogra will help to activate that mem=1G in U-Boot boot args, i guess Oct 01 04:01:32 using the kernel built from my tree (with the audio patches) and using the config files from bug 637947 I was able to listen a couple of mp3 without any issues Oct 01 04:01:35 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 Oct 01 04:01:38 but testing with hdmi Oct 01 04:01:56 needs more testing, but it seems that's working at least Oct 01 04:02:00 rsalveti, Which config files did you use from the bug? Oct 01 04:02:36 rsalveti: i never tried auido over hdmi before. need any special cable convert? Oct 01 04:03:00 persia: with latest tree you can use SDP4430.conf that berco added today at the bug report Oct 01 04:03:11 and then it seems we still need to change pulse to use it Oct 01 04:03:24 rsalveti: oh i just connect a speaker to the board, then sound's out Oct 01 04:03:32 that's my plan Oct 01 04:03:48 cooloney: cool, I don't have a speaker around, so I tested with my tv Oct 01 04:04:49 persia: I didn't follow all the audio discussions we had last week, but how are we planning to fix the need of changing the pulse audio config file? Oct 01 04:11:14 rsalveti: you got expensive equiment, heh Oct 01 04:11:33 * cooloney brb, lunch time Oct 01 04:20:11 rsalveti, Which pulse files did you change from default? Oct 01 04:21:10 persia: /etc/pulse/default.pa Oct 01 04:21:59 persia: is expected that the alsa config file be enough to get it working with pulse? Oct 01 04:22:06 No. Oct 01 04:22:12 ok Oct 01 04:22:39 Just to confirm, the changes you made to default.pa were to disable module-udev-detect and to add some load-module calls? Did you have to change it any other way? Oct 01 04:23:05 did the same change ogra did at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/637947/comments/14 Oct 01 04:23:06 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] Oct 01 04:23:43 so how are we going to proceed with the relase? Oct 01 04:24:18 OK. That's not as bad as it used to be. If you don't do this, does it just not work at all, or only partially work? Oct 01 04:24:33 the alsa conf is fine, we can create a package for it and deploy it at the TI ppa, or even setting up at jasper in the worse case Oct 01 04:25:46 that's what I'm going to check now Oct 01 04:25:58 just tested following the procedure to be sure the kernel was working Oct 01 04:26:15 as mpoirier was working at these issues Oct 01 04:26:24 Last I understood with the investigation of this was that we didn't have the module loading stuff we needed from udev, and udev didn't have enough information in /sys to provide it. Oct 01 04:26:44 No worries. We can figure out what is missing :) Oct 01 04:28:22 ok, I'm just installing the latest pre-installed image and will check this Oct 01 04:31:19 Wow! I would have expected yo u to just revert the default.pa changes or reinstall pulse, forcing config overwrite. Oct 01 04:31:51 nops, that sd card is invalid atm :-) Oct 01 04:32:07 many tests and debugging happening during the day ;-) Oct 01 04:33:18 but panda is fast, so I'm fine Oct 01 05:14:08 persia: ok, just changed the alsa file Oct 01 05:14:12 still got [ 123.889129] asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM: SDP4430 Media Oct 01 05:14:18 let me test aplay now Oct 01 05:14:59 That message is the kernel not knowing how to deal with the audio path: either the driver needs touching, or the config needs more work. Hard to say which is correct. Oct 01 05:15:12 hm, no hardware at audio menu Oct 01 05:15:31 OK. Anything from pulse in syslog or .xsession-errors? Oct 01 05:17:27 aplay gives main:654: audio open error Oct 01 05:17:36 let me check Oct 01 05:17:55 What! Oct 01 05:18:03 If aplay has an error, then ALSA is broken. Oct 01 05:18:29 could be an invalid entry at the config file Oct 01 05:18:42 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/56799615/SDP4430.conf Oct 01 05:19:48 You're running with a kernel with the patches applied? Oct 01 05:21:29 hm, doesn't seems that it loaded the config file Oct 01 05:21:51 at least alsamixer is not showing the same thing Oct 01 05:21:55 same volumes and etc Oct 01 05:21:59 persia: yup Oct 01 05:22:14 Well, that doesn't sound "fixed" :) Oct 01 05:22:21 getting 0 [SDP4430 ]: SDP4430 - SDP4430 from /proc/asound/cards Oct 01 05:22:25 How was it when it worked for you? Oct 01 05:22:50 using https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ti-omap4/+bug/637947/+attachment/1583666/+files/omap4_amixer_config.sh Oct 01 05:22:52 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] Oct 01 05:22:56 and the pulse change I said before Oct 01 05:23:18 but I remember the changed berco|laptop did was to be able to load the config file automatically during boot Oct 01 05:23:26 while recognizing the board name Oct 01 05:23:46 Which involved some kernel changes. Oct 01 05:24:23 yup Oct 01 05:27:21 persia: ok, removed the old alsa.state, rebooted and now I don't get this error at aplay Oct 01 05:27:30 probably old config hanging around Oct 01 05:27:36 OK. Oct 01 05:27:48 but still no sound... Oct 01 05:28:26 still seems that it didn't load the config file Oct 01 05:28:28 So aplay still doesn't work? Oct 01 05:29:13 doesn't give any error, but no sound, but probably explained by the lack of correct values at the mixer Oct 01 05:29:18 volume and etc Oct 01 05:29:28 Which is supposed to be fixed by that config file Oct 01 05:29:33 yup Oct 01 05:31:20 persia: do you know how it should request and load the config file? Oct 01 05:31:47 at least to have something to start the debugging Oct 01 05:34:56 ok, alsactl should give me some hints Oct 01 05:48:07 alsactl init gives me: Found hardware: "SDP4430" "" "" "" "" Oct 01 05:53:54 but seems to be loading just the default alsa settings Oct 01 06:07:29 rsalveti, Sorry, I don't really. Fiddling with alsactl is about the most I can do. GrueMaster may know more. Oct 01 06:12:55 persia: but I'm able to play with aplay -Dplughw:0,7 /usr/share/sounds/speech-dispatcher/test.wav, at the hdmi Oct 01 06:13:15 then how to tell the routes to pulse? Oct 01 06:13:24 without messing up with the config file Oct 01 06:14:52 well, more testing tomorrow, time to get some sleep now Oct 01 06:14:57 * rsalveti out Oct 01 06:20:43 Good night :) Anyway, the way to tell pulse how to work is for udev to populate the right audio paths, and have the right stuff in /sys. I'll dig all that up, and prepare something that lets us test that for you and Gruemaster to play with when day gets there. Oct 01 08:14:11 morgen Oct 01 08:15:36 Feeling particularly locale-bound today? :) Oct 01 09:09:26 persia: No, the Sharp and Genesi products aren't supported in upstream or in Linaro trees Oct 01 09:12:37 persia: no, just from time to time I change Oct 01 09:24:42 persia: if you care to compile your own kernel, try the patches in my tree on git.linaro.org for genesi (and I suspect Sharp too) Oct 01 09:25:26 I'm working hard to get the basics all working for the next kernel merge window Oct 01 09:40:15 If I wanted to install the preinstall on a harddisk, is there anything different I need to do, or would the approach be the same? Oct 01 10:31:04 bug 652873 Oct 01 10:31:06 Launchpad bug 652873 in hdparm (Ubuntu) "after installing hdparm, panda board fails to boot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652873 Oct 01 14:31:20 amitk, I'll try on a Netwalker just after release. That sounds extra promising. Thanks. Oct 01 14:48:27 is the rtl8192su driver support ported already in 10.04 or 10.10? Oct 01 14:48:43 I've been googling and can't find an answer =( Oct 01 14:53:17 persia: I'm not targeting it to ubuntu/linaro release. If I get it upstream in the next couple of weeks, I might ask for it to be pulled into linaro. Oct 01 14:58:51 amitk, It's not your target: it's my time and available hardware :) Oct 01 14:59:39 I'm not likely to have sufficient armel build-time to build a kernel until release, and am even more unlikely to have time to build a custom Netwalker boot SD. Oct 01 15:26:30 I am getting a SmartQ V7. It is said to have Ubuntu on it. Does anyone know anything about those? Oct 01 15:38:09 jo-erlend: if possible, can you test bug 646368? Oct 01 15:38:11 Launchpad bug 646368 in linux (Ubuntu) "smsc911x has no module alias, does not get auto-loaded on OMAP3 EVM (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/646368 Oct 01 15:38:54 I created a kernel deb that has the proper patch to make the module autoload correctly Oct 01 15:39:03 as I don't have an igepv2 I can't test it Oct 01 15:39:27 * rsalveti out for lunch Oct 01 17:34:36 argh, using 3g now, having issues with my internet provider Oct 01 17:37:04 fun Oct 01 19:12:17 is there already a good and free IDE that I can use for the lpc1343 arm chip on (K)ubuntu? Oct 01 19:19:53 Not something that this group really focuses on. This forum mainly focuses on ubuntu running on Cortex A8/9 based systems. Oct 01 19:22:13 and why would you run an IDE on your arm device ? Oct 01 19:22:24 :) Oct 01 19:25:07 txwikinger: I doubt that there is a pre-packaged IDE, but if it uses a gcc crosscompiler then you can probably use eclipse or kdevelop. Oct 01 19:26:18 the crosscompiler is only available for maverick, correct? Oct 01 19:26:20 kdevelop is ok Oct 01 19:26:26 or codelite, or codeblocks Oct 01 19:26:50 (if you don't want the java bloat of eclipse, or qt bloat of kdevelop) :) Oct 01 19:28:46 txwikinger: and you should be able to use gdbserver if your target is running linux or gdb stubs if the target has no OS Oct 01 19:29:38 well.. the lpc1343 is too small to run linux I would think Oct 01 19:29:53 only has 32k flash and 8k ram Oct 01 19:30:25 The whole thing is for a hackerspace conference Oct 01 19:30:35 txwikinger: if the ide uses gdb then you can usually get it to use the cross gdb and debug over a serial line to gdb stubs Oct 01 19:30:56 The name badges that are given out are special prototype pcbs Oct 01 19:31:23 I will be giving a presentation and would like to offer in that presentation a free toolchain/IDE that works on Ubuntu Oct 01 19:31:33 txwikinger: do you have a serial port on it ? Oct 01 19:31:46 Yes, a usb port Oct 01 19:33:20 txwikinger: hmm, I don't know hard it would be to get gdb stubs to use USB. Can you get to the UART signals from the lpc1343 ? Oct 01 19:34:26 yes.. you can do that too Oct 01 19:34:58 we have the pins layed out to be used Oct 01 19:39:56 txwikinger: Hmm, I will have to give codelite a go, it looks like it can use an external cross gdb. Oct 01 19:40:53 :) it's not bad if you like IDEs Oct 01 19:41:03 personally, I just use jed + rxvt-unicode :) Oct 01 19:42:10 vi FTW :) Oct 01 19:42:19 ewwww Oct 01 19:43:13 I tend to use vi and gdb command line due to the lack of a good and fast IDE Oct 01 19:45:18 I'll never understand people's obsession with an editor that requires you to use a bunch of archaic and cryptic key strokes todo even the simpliest things :) Oct 01 19:45:51 What do you use? Oct 01 19:45:59 personally, I just use jed + rxvt-unicode :) Oct 01 19:46:53 if i'd use jed my code would be scattered with :q Oct 01 19:46:56 :) Oct 01 19:47:02 like my OO.o docs are Oct 01 19:47:10 lmao Oct 01 19:47:33 :q some kind of weird smiley ? or one of those cryptic vi commands ? Oct 01 19:48:24 at least I haven't configured my shell to use vi key-commands Oct 01 19:48:46 finger memory ;) Oct 01 19:49:02 devilhorns, the quit command Oct 01 19:49:09 ogra_ac, aahhh Oct 01 19:49:35 :w is also one i use often Oct 01 19:49:59 Well. I am fine with commanline and editor too Oct 01 19:50:01 see, that's another reason I like jed ... can also use the menus, so no need to remember cryptic key strokes :) Oct 01 19:50:16 but there are those annoying people who call themselves users :D Oct 01 19:50:28 txwikinger, blah, losers :P Oct 01 19:50:52 Well... I want to see some happy faces when I do my presentation Oct 01 19:51:15 well that's easy Oct 01 19:51:16 give out drugs at the entrance ? Oct 01 19:51:21 maybe I should use quickly or quick-qt and create an IDE during my presentation :) Oct 01 19:51:22 tell them all they are gonna get laid :P Oct 01 19:52:22 oh well.. there goes the PG rating Oct 01 19:52:27 lol Oct 01 20:47:44 rsalveti: is there some trick to make your deb-pkg trick for cross compiling kernel play nicely with dkms? Oct 01 20:48:25 I ended up getting dkms to build the modules ok (for sgx and tiwlan).. by NFS mounting my original kernel srcs directory under /lib/modules/.../source Oct 01 20:48:48 but somehow vermagic is wrong in the resulting modules.. still using the old kernel's vermagic Oct 01 20:50:01 robclark: rsalveti i am interested in the solution too ;-) Oct 01 20:52:08 robclark: ndec: hm, never tried this kernel with dkms Oct 01 20:52:14 probably missing the headers package Oct 01 20:52:31 could be that dkms is building with omap4 headers Oct 01 20:52:34 instead of yours Oct 01 20:52:56 hmm, yeah.. I had to create a symlink for the headers.. if that is where it gets vermagic, that would explain Oct 01 20:53:15 any convenient way to get a headers .deb too.. or you just manually copy over? Oct 01 20:53:29 rsalveti: it's a bit more than that in fact. there are some tools that are built when building the kernel. when cross compiling these tools are built for x86, and they are embedded in the .deb. when building the module natively with dkms, it fails since the tools won't work on arm Oct 01 20:53:59 ndec: yep, saw your email at the kernel-team ml Oct 01 20:55:04 it seems we don't have an entry for kernel-headers similar with deb-pkg Oct 01 20:55:43 ndec: did you try cross-compiling the ubuntu kernel? Oct 01 20:56:04 rsalveti: yes, we do that quite often in fact. Oct 01 20:56:37 but using dpkg-buildpackage? Oct 01 20:56:53 using the latest changes from rtg Oct 01 20:57:07 * robclark was just trying to build the old fashioned way.. Oct 01 20:57:12 rsalveti: robclark: this: CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- skipabi=true skipmodule=true fakeroot debian/rules binary-omap4, would create the kernel and headers .deb files (with codesourcery) Oct 01 20:57:46 that should work with the new maverick cross compiler if you change CROSS_COMPILE Oct 01 20:57:48 ndec: yup, and did it work with dkms? Oct 01 20:58:03 rsalveti: nope... that's why I sent the email to andy ;-) Oct 01 20:58:08 or tim, i think. Oct 01 20:58:36 ndec: No rule to make target 'fakeroot' Oct 01 20:58:38 oh, so it's not just a theory, it's actually a proved problem Oct 01 20:58:59 (this is kernel-ubuntu.git from d.oz.o) Oct 01 20:59:17 fakeroot debian/rules clean Oct 01 20:59:23 robclark: I think you added an extra make in front no? Oct 01 20:59:42 robclark: just copy/paste the command above Oct 01 20:59:44 ahh, yeah Oct 01 20:59:56 gotcha Oct 01 20:59:57 robclark: and apt-get install fakeroot, if you don't have it Oct 01 21:00:11 already got it Oct 01 21:00:41 robclark: we are down to a few minutes for a full cross build on 8-core machine. Oct 01 21:00:51 ouch Oct 01 21:00:53 :-) Oct 01 21:01:18 ndec: make: *** No rule to make target `binary-omap4'. Stop. Oct 01 21:01:37 robclark: try cleaning it, using the command I sent Oct 01 21:01:43 k Oct 01 21:02:15 same Oct 01 21:02:29 no worries.. it seems like it would be easier for now just to manually copy over headers Oct 01 21:03:01 weird, works fine for me... Oct 01 21:03:23 binary-omap for omap 3 kernel and binary-omap4 for omap 4 Oct 01 21:03:43 but the omap 3 just works if you're using our main kernel tree Oct 01 21:05:59 hmm.. I'm using kernel-ubuntu.git tree on dev.omapzoom.org.. the for-ubuntu-2.6.35 branch.. Oct 01 21:07:17 robclark: this is the right kernel, this is our branch that gets merged in ubuntu official kernel later. Oct 01 21:07:39 yeah.. so I figure it has all the appropriate magic.. Oct 01 21:17:11 hmm, ndec, I'm a bit confused about how your command is supposed to work... Oct 01 21:17:14 grep -r binary-omap4 debian Oct 01 21:17:16 nothing Oct 01 21:17:31 maybe I am on wrong branch? Oct 01 21:18:49 robclark, how do you build ? Oct 01 21:18:54 is it a package ? Oct 01 21:19:21 well.. in the past I never built kernel package.. I'd just build manually, copy uImage to my MMC card, and away I go Oct 01 21:19:27 what counts in a package is the actual dependency in the control file Oct 01 21:20:26 robclark: grep -r 'binary-' debian Oct 01 21:20:33 ogra_ac: ok it really was file corruption Oct 01 21:20:34 hmm.. well.. actually, I'm really just looking for the easiest way to rebuild a kernel now that I'm using the initrd stuff, and ubuntu kernel which makes a lot more stuff modules (and sgx and stuff) Oct 01 21:21:14 robclark: the easiest one is native compilation ;-) so I think you are in fact looking for the fastest one ... Oct 01 21:21:35 ndec: yeah.. I guess fastest is a better word.. Oct 01 21:21:38 ndec: http://pastebin.com/DbXyMDWy Oct 01 21:21:46 (yeah, IT stopped blocking pastebin!) Oct 01 21:21:53 RC working fine now Oct 01 21:22:31 dcordes, ah, i was just wondering what you refer to in the above conversation :) Oct 01 21:24:11 robclark: oops. you need to run this first: export $(dpkg-architecture -aarmel) Oct 01 21:24:34 ahh.. ok.. let's try that Oct 01 21:24:49 robclark: do you have a directory called debian.ti-omap4? Oct 01 21:25:29 rsalveti: yup Oct 01 21:25:56 so fakeroot debian/rules clean should work and set up your env Oct 01 21:26:35 ok.. the extra export cmd that ndec gave seems to have done the trick Oct 01 21:26:47 robclark: yes, we need it too Oct 01 21:27:05 robclark: makes sense, otherwise you're going to build the kernel following your host arch Oct 01 21:27:23 ahhh.. yeah, I could see how that would be a problem Oct 01 21:27:59 oh.. doh.. it forces me to mrproper.. which nukes my .config.. Oct 01 21:28:16 robclark: yup, it'll get the config file from the package Oct 01 21:28:36 you can copy yours to debian.ti-omap4/config/config.common.ubuntu Oct 01 21:28:40 before buildint it Oct 01 21:28:46 ahh.. ok.. cool Oct 01 21:31:59 tmzt_: how do you rotate the screen in rhobuntu ? Oct 01 21:33:11 tmzt_: xrandr ? Oct 01 21:35:09 no, add Option "CW" to xorg.conf under the device Oct 01 21:35:17 Option "Rotate" "CW" Oct 01 21:35:25 you aren't using codeaurora driver? Oct 01 21:35:30 you're using fbdev? Oct 01 21:36:57 tmzt_: I am using xf86-video-fbdev , yes Oct 01 21:37:27 tmzt_: I compiled xf86-video-msm from codeaurora but the msm_fb in the kernel I use does not match so I will get corruption Oct 01 21:37:34 Section "Device" Identifier "fbdev" Driver "fbdev" Option "Rotate" "CW" Oct 01 21:37:38 EndSection Oct 01 21:38:28 xrandr does not work in rhobuntu ? Oct 01 21:38:39 btw, what is rhobuntu ? karmic ? Oct 01 21:54:55 rsalveti, ndec: well, not quite all the way.. but further.. http://pastebin.com/Q49QvW50 Oct 01 21:55:09 is our tree missing debian/control? Oct 01 21:56:11 robclark: gets generated by running clean Oct 01 21:56:30 hmm.. ok.. so I should have followed your instructions the first time ;-) Oct 01 21:57:02 sounds like a good starting point! Oct 01 21:57:22 * robclark is just impatient sometimes Oct 01 22:07:02 In the latest netbook rootfilesystems the gnome-panel is locked so that one cannot move or remove applets. I checked gconf-editor on it and there is the /apps/panel/global/locked_down bool Oct 01 22:11:03 It is not set to true so it doesn't seem to affect it Oct 01 22:12:03 hey guy I need a toll to test a touch screen on ubuntu Oct 01 22:12:39 err toll = tool Oct 01 22:15:55 orbarron: multi touch ? Oct 01 22:16:17 So the qustion is, how can I unlock the gnome-panel in netbook ? Oct 01 22:16:34 no.. thought I try touchscreen calibrate Oct 01 22:16:58 do you use evdev or tslib ? Oct 01 22:17:17 evtest or ts_test Oct 01 22:18:00 dcordes: it's an event interface Oct 01 22:18:09 no... but I need something to calibrate Oct 01 22:19:06 orbarron: ts_calibrate Oct 01 22:39:10 gourneau, If you want to use Ubuntu on it, I recommend against the SmartQ7: the processor in it can only run Ubuntu 9.04 (which ceases support in a couple weeks). Oct 01 22:40:02 gourneau, The closest I know to be available in form-factor that can run current Ubuntu is the Sharp Netwalker tablet (available widely retail in Japan, or from exporters (conics.net and others) Oct 01 22:57:31 ahh can't get ts_calibrate... Oct 02 00:08:46 These instructions can be used to work around the locked panel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuNetbookEdition/ConvertGnomeSession Oct 02 00:09:04 It will add une-efl to the gnome session Oct 02 00:16:06 dcordes, totally wrong for maverick though Oct 02 00:20:46 (and breaks the gnome session) Oct 02 00:21:09 ogra_ac: ok what is right for maverick ? Oct 02 01:08:40 I think it is difficult to close windows with the maximus concept **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 02 02:59:57 2010