**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 15 02:59:57 2010
Oct 15 07:11:26 <lag> GrueMaster: I think they're amazing
Oct 15 07:11:48 <lag> GrueMaster: I already have quite a few Cobras, but Kings are awesome
Oct 15 07:28:57 <hrw> hello
Oct 15 07:59:17 <asmcos> "apt-build world" can compile all arm source code package ?
Oct 15 08:00:08 <asmcos> Can I re-compile  all soft package ?
Oct 15 08:00:21 <persia> You can certainly recompile everything.
Oct 15 08:00:29 <persia> I'm unsure if that syntax is correct for apt-build.
Oct 15 08:00:39 <persia> I'm not sure why you'd want to recompile everything though.
Oct 15 08:01:25 <asmcos> maybe i want to use a newcompiler ?
Oct 15 08:02:41 <asmcos> persia
Oct 15 08:03:08 <asmcos> do you compile ubuntu 10.10 for arm ?
Oct 15 08:04:24 <asmcos> do you have any document about compile ubuntu for arm ?
Oct 15 08:04:51 <hrw> asmcos: you have lot of arm cpu power to waste?
Oct 15 08:06:44 <hrw> hi njpatel
Oct 15 08:07:30 <asmcos> 没有
Oct 15 08:07:39 <asmcos> 你是linux forum的hrw?
Oct 15 08:07:43 <njpatel> hrw, hey dude
Oct 15 08:08:09 <asmcos> hrw:no
Oct 15 08:08:46 <hrw> asmcos: recompilation of whole ubuntu on arm hardware will take ~month if not more...
Oct 15 08:09:12 <asmcos> for arm,
Oct 15 08:09:15 <asmcos> now on arm
Oct 15 08:09:28 <asmcos> not on arm
Oct 15 08:10:09 <asmcos> use cross compiler
Oct 15 08:10:12 <hrw> asmcos: cross compilation of ubuntu packages is not working for lot of packages
Oct 15 08:12:29 <asmcos> is nothing,i need part packages
Oct 15 08:13:15 <asmcos> I need know the compilation methods
Oct 15 08:14:34 <asmcos> how many do ubuntu 10.10 have packages?
Oct 15 08:16:40 <asmcos> apt-build support cross-compile ?
Oct 15 08:17:47 <hrw> asmcos: you need to get used to xdeb
Oct 15 08:18:24 <asmcos> hrw:thank you
Oct 15 08:18:43 <persia> cross-compilation *can't* work for lots of the packages.
Oct 15 08:19:34 <persia> And the number of packages that will fail to cross-compile only increases as people implement more built-time test suites (which we consider best practice)
Oct 15 08:21:38 <asmcos> oh
Oct 15 08:22:11 <persia> Note that everything there now is native-compiled.
Oct 15 08:22:30 <asmcos> compile ubuntu on arm ?
Oct 15 08:22:41 <persia> From what I understand, nobody has ever done large-scale extensive testing to ensure it is safe to mix native- and cross- compiled code.
Oct 15 08:22:45 <persia> Yep.
Oct 15 08:36:30 <vstehle> Hi ogra, I saw you released images for the AC100 (http://ac100.gudinna.com/); nice!
Oct 15 08:36:39 <ogra> yep
Oct 15 08:36:41 <ogra> well
Oct 15 08:36:50 <ogra> kind of "images" :)
Oct 15 08:36:58 <persia> And a personal release, really :)
Oct 15 08:37:02 <ogra> its just a hacked up rootfs :)
Oct 15 08:37:11 <ogra> yeah, spare time fun
Oct 15 08:37:39 <vstehle> The kernel is at http://gitorious.org/ac100; how comes you don't have a branch in maverick kernel already ? :)
Oct 15 08:37:51 <persia> maverick is frozen.
Oct 15 08:37:59 <vstehle> persia: Oh, right, I forgot.
Oct 15 08:37:59 <persia> For natty, needs someone to maintain it.
Oct 15 08:39:31 <vstehle> On another topic, I found an interesting "side effect" of the netbook edition; bug #661003
Oct 15 08:39:33 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 661003 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Debconf dialogs are hidden (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661003
Oct 15 08:39:49 <vstehle> Not very "user friendly" :)
Oct 15 08:40:05 <persia> vstehle, What priority did you set the debconf prompts?
Oct 15 08:40:20 <vstehle> persia: No idea; I'll check.
Oct 15 08:40:40 <ogra> right, they neew to be high or critical to be shown iirc
Oct 15 08:41:00 <ogra> vstehle, the kernel is 2.6.29 ... we wont pull that into the distro :)
Oct 15 08:41:14 <persia> I hope not!
Oct 15 08:42:10 <ogra> nor will there ever be "real" images unless someone pays or the community steps up to get them (but in a more proper way than "untar that to your SD")
Oct 15 08:42:38 <persia> Mostly just needs one or two folk.  A kernel maintainer and someone to do image verification.
Oct 15 08:43:01 <persia> Mind you, getting hosting on cdimage is a bit more opaque and complicated, but in theory.
Oct 15 08:43:39 <ogra> well, first of all it would need a way to wrtie the kernel updates to the device somewhere :)
Oct 15 08:44:04 <persia> One can't do that even after booting a proper kernel?
Oct 15 08:44:12 <berco> hi there
Oct 15 08:44:14 <ogra> nope
Oct 15 08:44:26 <berco> trying to test #637947 SRU
Oct 15 08:44:28 <ogra> you cant access the boot bits on the emmc
Oct 15 08:44:46 <ogra> berco, a bit premature :)
Oct 15 08:44:48 <hrw> ogra: use kexecboot
Oct 15 08:45:09 <ogra> berco, the kernel was just accepted a few minuted ago ... and alsa-utils wasnt yet
Oct 15 08:45:09 <berco> ogra: I just received the notification, thought I could test :)
Oct 15 08:45:19 <ogra> give it time to build ;)
Oct 15 08:45:20 <hrw> ogra: you put kexecboot kernel in flash, it boots, search on sd/flash for distro kernel and kexecs it
Oct 15 08:45:31 <berco> so that's normal I get maverick-proposed not found
Oct 15 08:45:31 <ogra> hrw, if kexec works, yeah
Oct 15 08:45:43 <hrw> ogra: Zaurus guys do that for quite long time
Oct 15 08:45:44 <berco> in sources.list?
Oct 15 08:45:48 <ogra> hrw, we had a spec for that to replace u-boot about three releases ago
Oct 15 08:46:16 <ogra> berco, yes, you need to enable it deliberately, -proposed is for update testing
Oct 15 08:46:44 <ogra> berco, packages go to proposed first, only if they recieved enough testing they go to -updates
Oct 15 08:46:46 <persia> It's been 90% done for a couple releases as well, just nobody ever really wanted it enough to finish it.
Oct 15 08:46:57 <ogra> its kind of a staging archive
Oct 15 08:49:43 <ogra> ugh
Oct 15 08:49:56 <berco> ogra: but does it exist yet? I get 404 not found on it
Oct 15 08:50:09 <persia> Probably not built yet.
Oct 15 08:50:14 <ogra> so i was testing the sound fix for the last half hour ... suddenly hearing nothing anymore since i started today
Oct 15 08:50:36 <persia> And you discovered that your headphones were unplugged?
Oct 15 08:50:39 <ogra> .... and i just noticed my headset is plugged into my laptop
Oct 15 08:50:44 <ogra> yeah
Oct 15 08:50:46 <berco> lol
Oct 15 08:50:57 <ogra> having team calls at night is NOT helpful !
Oct 15 08:51:00 <persia> Heh.  +1 for the "is it plugged in" method of troubleshooting :)
Oct 15 08:51:17 <ogra> ok, works all fine
Oct 15 08:51:24 * ogra calms down again
Oct 15 08:51:33 <berco> ogra: persia: thanks, that's good news
Oct 15 08:51:38 <ogra> now that really woke me up at least
Oct 15 08:52:07 <ogra> berco, we're still missing one part
Oct 15 08:52:21 <berco> ogra: what do you need?
Oct 15 08:52:22 <ogra> the pulseaudio profile file isnt there yet
Oct 15 08:52:37 <ogra> so currently HDMI isnt exposed in the UI
Oct 15 08:52:54 <berco> has abduenas sent you anything?
Oct 15 08:53:02 <ogra> not yet
Oct 15 08:53:17 <vstehle> persia, I checked the debian/preinst of the concerned package, and all the 'db_input' I see there have a "critical" priority. Also, the window is presented, only it appears in the background, so I don't think this is related to the prio after all.
Oct 15 08:53:17 * ogra checks the longish mail thread again ... i probably missed it
Oct 15 08:53:18 <berco> ogra: how can I take your changes to test on my side?
Oct 15 08:53:36 <berco> I have abduenas file, I could probably share this with you too
Oct 15 08:53:38 <persia> vstehle, Indeed, it's not.  I think it's related to maxiumus or whatever replaced it.
Oct 15 08:53:47 <ogra> berco, you would need to compile alsa-utils and the kernel from the source package ... better just wait
Oct 15 08:53:51 <persia> ogra, You understand these WM oddities better than I: any ideas?
Oct 15 08:54:09 <hrw> ogra: switch to using BT headsets for calls
Oct 15 08:54:12 <ogra> persia, might be a timestamp issue
Oct 15 08:54:48 <vstehle> ogra, persia, you know, the message actually _is_ presented. Its window is just "below" the software center, I think...
Oct 15 08:55:22 <ogra> persia, i havent done much with WMs for the last 1.5 years but i think metacity introduced a timestamp thing, would probably be a question for mvo if sw-center has "always on top" set or some such
Oct 15 08:55:38 <ogra> that might override the timestamp
Oct 15 08:55:59 <ogra> vstehle, in any case file a bug against sw-center
Oct 15 08:56:03 <persia> ogra, timestamp? for wnck-placement stuff?  (and I haven't done anything with WMs in >15 years, so you're closer)
Oct 15 08:56:16 <ogra> (mvo might reassign it to debconf-gkt or so)
Oct 15 08:56:19 <ogra> *gtk
Oct 15 08:56:24 <persia> 661003 is definitely the right bug.
Oct 15 08:56:29 <persia> But yeah, probably needs mvo.
Oct 15 08:56:31 <ogra> ah, alsready there
Oct 15 08:56:36 <vstehle> ogra, yes
Oct 15 08:56:46 <ogra> bug 661003
Oct 15 08:56:47 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 661003 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Debconf dialogs are hidden (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661003
Oct 15 08:57:10 <ogra> heh, you're to fast vstehle :)
Oct 15 08:57:15 <vstehle> ogra, the only problem with this is that it is "user unfriendly" :)
Oct 15 08:57:25 <persia> vstehle, That's a bug :)
Oct 15 08:57:26 <ogra> yes, agreed
Oct 15 09:00:29 <ogra> hmpf
Oct 15 09:00:36 <berco> ogra: persia: just updated #637947 with proposed profile
Oct 15 09:00:45 <ogra> my alsa-utils fix can need some improvement
Oct 15 09:00:49 <berco> can you test if HDMI works?
Oct 15 09:00:51 <ogra> damned
Oct 15 09:02:29 <ogra> no biggie, but alsactl init is only actually needed if no state file exists (it does no harm if its run when it exists but is a useless extra call)
Oct 15 09:02:51 <persia> So it's only needed the first time?
Oct 15 09:03:25 <ogra> yes
Oct 15 09:03:48 <ogra> i'll update the fix with a check for the state file i think
Oct 15 09:04:12 <ogra> i mean i could as well leave it in ... the mixer volumes are properly restored etc
Oct 15 09:04:23 <ogra> but its not "clean"
Oct 15 09:20:56 <ogra> berco, your pulseaudio.rules wont work
Oct 15 09:46:51 <berco> what's wrong with this file? I just uploaded the file from our audio team
Oct 15 09:49:48 <ogra> berco, it will only work on blaze ;)
Oct 15 10:26:25 <berco> ogra: agree.
Oct 15 10:28:09 <berco> is that possible to "or" in the ATTRS{id} field of the rules file? I guess the conf file can apply to both blaze and panda boards
Oct 15 10:31:19 <devilhorns> ogra, !! (just felt like shouting your name) :P
Oct 15 10:31:36 <ogra> devilhorns, !!!
Oct 15 10:31:46 <devilhorns> hehehe
Oct 15 10:33:04 <ogra> berco, either that or switch inside the conf and use something else in rules
Oct 15 10:33:10 <ogra> i'll have to inspect that
Oct 15 10:35:19 <ogra> berco, once the basics are in i'll look at pulse (unless someone beats me to it)
Oct 15 13:20:22 <rsalveti> morning
Oct 15 13:25:11 <asmcos> hi all
Oct 15 13:26:57 <persia> hey asmcos
Oct 15 13:27:09 <persia> Were you able to get maverick running on your 3530?
Oct 15 13:27:09 <asmcos> hi persia
Oct 15 13:28:46 <asmcos> i should try
Oct 15 13:29:03 <asmcos> i want to compile source code
Oct 15 13:29:30 <persia> OK.  Any code in particular?
Oct 15 13:32:22 <asmcos> i see
Oct 15 13:32:54 <asmcos> i need a example
Oct 15 13:33:41 <persia> The "hello" package is the classic example.
Oct 15 13:33:54 <asmcos> yeah
Oct 15 13:34:14 <persia> So, apt-get source hello should get you the source.
Oct 15 13:34:32 <persia> But I still think you want to install 10.10 on your 3530 before you proceed.
Oct 15 13:34:43 <asmcos> debuild -nc -us
Oct 15 13:35:39 <persia> You could.  I'd probably do `debuild -b -us -uc`
Oct 15 13:36:46 <asmcos> ok
Oct 15 13:37:40 <asmcos> i hope do a command to compile some packages ,not a package
Oct 15 13:37:55 <asmcos> so i use apt-build world
Oct 15 13:45:54 <persia> What do you expect `apt-build world` to do?
Oct 15 13:46:33 <ogra_ac> cleanup my house !
Oct 15 13:46:50 <ogra_ac> and do the dishes indeed :)
Oct 15 13:51:44 <rsalveti> vstehle: ogra_ac: https://edge.launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release
Oct 15 13:51:47 <rsalveti> awesome!
Oct 15 13:52:05 <rsalveti> let me try with the ti icon
Oct 15 13:53:01 <ogra_ac> rsalveti, well, enable universe/multiverse first
Oct 15 13:53:08 <rsalveti> true
Oct 15 13:53:54 * ogra_ac will upload the fix for that fater the call
Oct 15 13:57:34 <ogra_ac> argh
Oct 15 13:58:00 <ogra_ac> no ndec, damned
Oct 15 13:58:13 <ogra_ac> his -config package will completely break audio
Oct 15 13:58:56 <ogra_ac> it collides with the fix thats in the archive nw
Oct 15 13:59:00 <ogra_ac> *now
Oct 15 14:02:52 <gmdq> hello, after writing the image (ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall wiki) EXT4-fs (sdc2): bad geometry
Oct 15 14:04:08 <gmdq> how extract it manually
Oct 15 14:05:43 <vstehle> rsalveti, you will need to enable universe/multiverse
Oct 15 14:06:22 <ogra_ac> vstehle, are yu near ndec ? we're all waiting for the chair ...
Oct 15 14:06:36 <vstehle> ogra_ac, I'll got get him :)
Oct 15 14:06:37 <rsalveti> vstehle: just did that, will now try with the icon
Oct 15 14:06:46 <ogra_ac> vstehle, thanks :)
Oct 15 14:07:00 <lag> sebjan_: Is there a meeting today?
Oct 15 14:07:27 <ogra_ac> lag, patience is golden
Oct 15 14:07:36 * lag just hung up
Oct 15 14:07:46 <vstehle> He's back
Oct 15 14:07:50 <ogra_ac> good
Oct 15 14:08:01 <lag> Do you mean "patience is a virtue"
Oct 15 14:08:17 <persia> yes
Oct 15 14:13:23 <persia> Unapproved packages in maverick-proposed: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+queue?queue_state=1
Oct 15 14:51:15 <rsalveti> vstehle: ogra: interesting: Total size: 80.9GB to download, 80.9GB when installed
Oct 15 14:51:16 <rsalveti> hehe
Oct 15 14:51:22 <rsalveti> using ubuntu-omap4-extras
Oct 15 14:53:27 <persia> Some blueprints links: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~davidm/+specs?searchtext=%27-n-%27 is about as close as I can figure out how to find the ones davidm is looking at.
Oct 15 14:53:48 <persia> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/sprints/uds-n is the set that shall be discussed at UDS.
Oct 15 14:54:44 <davidm> http://blogs.arm.com/software-enablement/going-maverick-ubuntu-10-10-for-arm/
Oct 15 15:03:37 <rsalveti> ndec: these are the x-loader changes we made for panda: http://gitorious.org/~rsalveti/pandaboard/rsalveti-x-loader/commits/omap4_panda_es2.1
Oct 15 15:03:51 <rsalveti> would be nice to check this performance difference we have on blaze
Oct 15 15:04:15 <ndec> rsalveti: thanks. we will look into this. vstehle, see ^^^
Oct 15 15:05:48 <ndec> rsalveti: where is the branch for the MLO for blaze?
Oct 15 15:06:05 <rsalveti> ndec: I'm using the same one for panda and blaze
Oct 15 15:06:13 <rsalveti> just build it for sdp4430
Oct 15 15:06:18 <ndec> rsalveti: ok.
Oct 15 15:07:05 <ndec> rsalveti: looks like we don't have this one for blaze: http://gitorious.org/~rsalveti/pandaboard/rsalveti-x-loader/commit/71d0d1faf3c40a2c394c73869fc6030ca56b3d12
Oct 15 15:07:25 <rsalveti> ndec: yup
Oct 15 15:07:40 <rsalveti> because no one was complaining of sync lost with it
Oct 15 15:09:04 <rsalveti> but let me check what clocks are being used for blaze...
Oct 15 15:11:05 <rsalveti> ndec: we don't need this patch for blaze because it was already with these values
Oct 15 15:11:32 <rsalveti> from sebjan_ commit it seems it was changed at panda because of the 6 layers board
Oct 15 15:12:21 <ndec> rsalveti: right
Oct 15 15:22:01 <gmdq> how extract preinstalled img with netbook ubuntu to directory ?
Oct 15 15:24:18 <ogra_ac> you mean to SD card ?
Oct 15 15:24:48 <ogra_ac> or do you want to extract the content ?
Oct 15 15:25:20 <gmdq> extract content
Oct 15 15:25:57 <ogra_ac> well, easiest is surely to extract to SD and then just grab stuff from the second partition
Oct 15 15:26:07 <gmdq> with sh -c 'zcat . ...' - EXT4-fs (sdc2): bad geometry
Oct 15 15:26:16 <ogra_ac> alternatively you can gunzip and loop mount
Oct 15 15:26:18 <GrueMaster> Actually, it is easier to mount the partition.
Oct 15 15:26:29 <ogra_ac> ext4 fs ?
Oct 15 15:26:38 <gmdq> yep
Oct 15 15:26:45 <ogra_ac> the image doesnt contain any ext4
Oct 15 15:26:52 <ogra_ac> only vfat and ext3 filesystems
Oct 15 15:27:08 <gmdq> hm, i use ext4 driver for ext2 and ext3
Oct 15 15:27:08 <ogra_ac> how exactly did your command look like ?
Oct 15 15:27:17 <GrueMaster> gmdq: First run "gunzip < <image.gz> > <image>"
Oct 15 15:27:25 <GrueMaster> To uncompress it.
Oct 15 15:27:29 <ogra_ac> did you extract to a filesystem instead of a disk ?
Oct 15 15:27:32 <gmdq> i know
Oct 15 15:27:48 <GrueMaster> Then type "file <image>" to determine partition start block.
Oct 15 15:28:09 <gmdq> one second
Oct 15 15:28:29 <GrueMaster> To mount it, type "mount <image> <mount point> -o loop,offset=$((512*<start block>))"
Oct 15 15:29:00 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: that should be in the wiki page
Oct 15 15:29:01 <GrueMaster> example:  sudo mount maverick-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img mnt/ -o loop,offset=$((512*63))
Oct 15 15:29:20 <GrueMaster> I think it is, just can't remember *which* wiki page.
Oct 15 15:29:27 <rsalveti> hehe
Oct 15 15:29:31 * rsalveti out for lunch
Oct 15 15:29:43 <gmdq> GrueMaster: thx
Oct 15 15:29:56 <GrueMaster> The above example is for the boot partition.
Oct 15 15:49:07 <cpearson> GrueMaster: I tried booting from the the image and I get a CRC error on the Kernel.
Oct 15 15:50:17 <GrueMaster> Compare md5sums with the md5sums file in the release directory.  If they match, write /dev/zero to your sd card & reflash the image.
Oct 15 15:50:44 * GrueMaster out for an hour.  Driving to Portland.
Oct 15 16:38:13 <oli44> hello!
Oct 15 16:42:00 <ndec> ogra: GrueMaster: do you know where the cdimage.ubuntu.com server is located? is it UK or US?
Oct 15 16:42:12 <ogra_ac> UK
Oct 15 16:45:35 <ogra_ac> london ...
Oct 15 16:45:40 <ogra_ac> want the address ?
Oct 15 16:48:04 <armin76> yes
Oct 15 16:48:06 <armin76> :D
Oct 15 16:56:38 <ndec> ogra: thanks! no need for the address!
Oct 15 16:56:55 <ogra_ac> :)
Oct 15 16:57:08 <ndec> ogra: the 'ports' are mirrored on ubuntu standard mirros. I am talking about cdimage mirror, not archive. any reason?
Oct 15 16:57:30 <ogra_ac> nothing is mirrored
Oct 15 16:57:51 <ogra_ac> neither cdimage.u.c nor ports.u.c
Oct 15 16:58:08 <ogra_ac> (probably worth putting up an UDS spec about that ;) )
Oct 15 16:58:42 <ndec> ogra: how about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
Oct 15 16:59:04 <ogra_ac> just space issues, i think the reason is to not put off mirror admins by wasting their space for rather rarely used images
Oct 15 16:59:07 <ndec> ogra: oh this is r.u.c, right?
Oct 15 16:59:11 <ogra_ac> yep
Oct 15 17:12:34 <armin76> ogra_ac: what bogomips do you have on the ac100?
Oct 15 17:13:05 <ogra_ac> 2x ~2000
Oct 15 17:14:52 <armin76> k, 1998 && 1992 on the harmony board
Oct 15 17:14:58 <armin76> wonder why they're different
Oct 15 17:15:24 <ogra_ac> how are they different ?
Oct 15 17:15:35 <ogra_ac> oh, you mean between the cpus ?
Oct 15 17:15:38 <armin76> yep
Oct 15 17:15:40 <ogra_ac> same here
Oct 15 17:16:01 <ogra_ac> no idea though, probably one has the gpu directly attached
Oct 15 17:22:24 <persia> Um, there are some cdimage mirrors, but most of them aren't very complete.
Oct 15 17:27:36 <oli44> hello, channel!
Oct 15 17:27:56 <oli44> this is my first time here, gving a try to an omap board named igep
Oct 15 17:29:21 <ogra_ac> your mileage may vary with the igep2
Oct 15 17:29:41 <ogra_ac> there are still some patches missing to make the images properly work on them
Oct 15 17:29:49 <oli44> ok
Oct 15 17:29:54 <rsalveti> ogra_ac: latest update should have most of the fixes
Oct 15 17:29:59 <ogra_ac> ah, k
Oct 15 17:30:05 <oli44> actually , i purchased it with a working ubuntu 9.04 SD
Oct 15 17:30:25 <ogra_ac> then i'm not up to date, rsalveti is your man ;)
Oct 15 17:30:30 <rsalveti> hm, actually some of them are not yet released, just at the repo
Oct 15 17:30:34 <rsalveti> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=summary
Oct 15 17:31:52 <oli44> i'd like to upgrade to the LTS: if i add a line such as deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports lucid main multiverse universe then i dist-upgrade, that sould do the trick?
Oct 15 17:32:15 <ogra_ac> no, use do-release-upgrade
Oct 15 17:32:36 <ogra_ac> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
Oct 15 17:35:24 <oli44> yeah, already tried it but without adding the lucid line
Oct 15 17:35:39 <oli44> back in a few minutes
Oct 15 17:35:45 <oli44> hopefully for cheers
Oct 15 17:45:15 <oli44> hmm, says no new release found
Oct 15 18:22:29 <sunnydrake> hi can anyone post links on rootfs (preferably busybox) images?
Oct 15 18:22:49 <sunnydrake> and pxa270 arm images?
Oct 15 18:22:55 <sunnydrake> kernel
Oct 15 18:23:06 <ogra_ac> we only have preinstalled omap3/4 and live dove images
Oct 15 18:23:17 <ogra_ac> for other rootfses see the channel topic
Oct 15 18:23:46 <sunnydrake> thnx one more question kernelimage will output something without rootfs?
Oct 15 18:24:03 <sunnydrake> not on serial..via display
Oct 15 18:24:25 <ogra_ac> kernel is up to you, we dont have a kernel for that HW
Oct 15 18:25:16 <sunnydrake> i compiled kernel for arm but dunno if it works.. currently it jsut blank via haret boot
Oct 15 19:02:35 <cpearson> I just ran the updater for the first time on a clean image today for the Pandaboard build... All of the updates show as being 704MB, when downloading it says 2MB to download
Oct 15 19:04:34 <rsalveti> cpearson: yeah, that's weird, as I said in the morning, when getting packages from ppa it showed me 80.9GB to download
Oct 15 19:04:41 <rsalveti> hehe
Oct 15 19:04:54 <rsalveti> probably a bug somewhere
Oct 15 19:06:24 <cpearson> someone is dividing by close to zero eh?
Oct 15 19:10:42 <rsalveti> hehe, probably something like that
Oct 15 19:13:03 <rsalveti> also, when installing ubuntu-omap4-extras the license is set as unknown
Oct 15 19:13:27 <rsalveti> it should be proprietary or oss/proprietary, something like that
Oct 15 19:16:27 <oli44> hello
Oct 15 19:16:44 <oli44> just failed a release upgrade, machine is stuck
Oct 15 19:17:25 <oli44> libc-bin broke libc6 package
Oct 15 19:18:56 <oli44> now everythin segfaults
Oct 15 19:19:07 <oli44> even cat or cd
Oct 15 19:19:24 <rsalveti> ouch
Oct 15 19:19:27 <oli44> not cd
Oct 15 19:19:29 <oli44> bug ls
Oct 15 19:19:43 <oli44> is it recoverable?
Oct 15 19:19:45 <rsalveti> oli44: which release did you use as base when upgrading?
Oct 15 19:25:07 <GrueMaster> And what platform?
Oct 15 19:25:53 <oli44> jaunty on omap (igep, beagle board like)
Oct 15 20:04:27 <rsalveti> ok, seems at least sgx, wifi and bt are working fine from ppa
Oct 15 20:24:48 <ndec> rsalveti: this is cool!
Oct 15 20:25:16 <ndec> rsalveti: http://trailers.apple.com/ to test video from firefox, using GST plugins
Oct 15 20:26:17 <rsalveti> cool, will check gst
Oct 15 20:26:20 <GrueMaster> mpoirier: Did you want to submit a track on alsa soc for UDS?
Oct 15 20:26:34 <rsalveti> ndec: should it work with 720p and 1080p?
Oct 15 20:26:42 <ndec> rsalveti: yes
Oct 15 20:26:45 <rsalveti> nice
Oct 15 20:28:03 <ndec> rsalveti: for such resolution you need to have a full hd monitor, if you use a standard monitor, you need to play full screen, we currently have a bug when downscaling too much
Oct 15 20:28:04 <mpoirier> GrueMaster: to explain how the thing work in the kernel ?
Oct 15 20:28:58 <GrueMaster> More of what can be done in the kernel drivers to improve userspace interaction.
Oct 15 20:29:21 <GrueMaster> Have you gotten any detailed info on UCM?
Oct 15 20:30:45 <mpoirier> My quest was related to how the ABE, PDM and FE worked together - I did not looked into UCM specifically
Oct 15 20:30:56 <mpoirier> I got my information on the former.
Oct 15 20:31:41 <mpoirier> I'm still thinking about the "to improve userspace interaction"...
Oct 15 20:32:33 <rsalveti> ndec: yeah, saw that bug while at ti
Oct 15 20:33:53 <mpoirier> GrueMaster: I don't see how that interaction could be improve - the current implementation is the ultimate in terms of flexibilty.
Oct 15 20:34:13 <mpoirier> GrueMaster: unless you have ideas.
Oct 15 20:38:35 <rsalveti> ndec: awesome, trailers.apple.com works nicely :-)
Oct 15 20:39:42 <ndec> rsalveti: eheh... and the cool thing is the CPU load ;-)
Oct 15 20:40:12 <rsalveti> yeah, around 15%
Oct 15 20:57:25 <mpoirier> GrueMaster: I think we could fix our other omap3 boards using the same solution that was implemented to fix panda.  After all, the all export a distinct string in /proc/asound/cards.
Oct 16 00:36:00 <Dingo_aus> G'day all - trying to install Maverick on a SD card for BeagleBoard and the instructions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall result in me getting a "bash /dev/sdc permision denied" error
Oct 16 00:36:09 <Dingo_aus> anyone know how to fix this?
Oct 16 00:36:46 <Dingo_aus> My relevant terminal session is:
Oct 16 00:36:46 <Dingo_aus> sudo sh -c './ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz' > /dev/sdc
Oct 16 00:36:46 <Dingo_aus> bash: /dev/sdc: Permission denied
Oct 16 00:36:51 <persia> You get the error at trying to write the SD card?
Oct 16 00:36:58 <Dingo_aus> yes
Oct 16 00:37:03 <persia> Oh, right.  the redirect needs to be inside the quotation marks.
Oct 16 00:37:10 <Dingo_aus> oh...
Oct 16 00:37:17 <persia> Because you need the elevated permissions for > not for zcat.
Oct 16 00:37:50 <Dingo_aus> Thanks - yeah I usually use DD or other commands, not really familiar with this one - cheers
Oct 16 00:38:16 <persia> zcat ./ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz | sudo tee /dev/sdc > /dev/null` might do almost the same thing, but I'm not sure I trust tee that much.
Oct 16 00:38:56 <persia> Oh, for dd, just unzip the image, and then `sudo dd if=${img} of=${SD} bs=1M` or something
Oct 16 00:39:39 <Dingo_aus> Thanks so much - my SD card is be written to as we type
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